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And Ron Wolflee, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:01:00.560 it doesn't get any better than that, boy. Unleash the fiards. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.560 I'm speaking that into existence here off the top of 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.040 the Big Red Rage. Doubted you know, Wolf just for that. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.479 When I graduated college, I swore that not only would 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:18.199 I never read another word of Shakespeare, but I would 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.920 never be the guy who quotes Shakespeare. Okay until now? 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.720 All right, what are you gonna do? Paul King Lear 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.800 Wolf and the famous quote from King lear and it 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.240 goes like this, and I do quote, nothing will come 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:38.880 of nothing. If you invest nothing, you will gain nothing. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.120 And that brings us and I think capsualizes the offseason. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.080 Invest in nih offseason, NFL, so thou shalt reap a 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.160 bountiful regular season. So the rest of the league doesn't 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:57.640 say wherefore art thou in the postseason? You went deep 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.240 right there, right off the top. Well, I saw the 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.320 rookie minicamp, which we're going to talk about, and then 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:06.680 we're gonna talk to Lucida Smith, that rare sixth rounder 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.840 who might actually make a run of some serious playing time. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.000 Just saying a little bit of a prediction. We'll see, 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.600 we'll talk to him. I think you'll be impressed with 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.160 Lucida Smith. We'll go from there. But Wolf, this is 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:22.080 where you guys put in that time that you hopefully 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.080 right and because once again, nothing will come up nothing 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.000 unless you get your keyster out there and make it happen. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.600 That's right, Paula. You gotta have something. You got to 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.480 have something, even if it starts with nothing. And that 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.160 really is what the rookies are doing for the most part. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.800 They're starting with nothing because if you don't know what 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.639 you're doing, Paul, really doesn't matter. All the goodness that 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.079 God has given you, all your physical abilities, your physical talent, 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.720 all of it, Paul, none of it matters if you 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.639 don't know what you're doing, all right, you need that roadmap. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.640 You need to master the offense. You need to be 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.760 able to master the defense. You need to do that 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.359 before you can actually go out and perform. You know what. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.600 I don't know if you saw on Acy Cardinals dot 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.280 com and the YouTube channel right, but there was a 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.160 wired of Trey McBride. We're gonna play a little clip, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.080 but at the very end of the full piece, Cliff 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.679 Kingsbury says essentially that Wolf, I mean evidence of a 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.560 guy who spent ten years in the NFL locker room. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.079 Because Cliff Kingsbury's message was, look at how much better 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.760 we were today than yesterday because everybody had that much 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.280 more of a grasp of the playbook and knew what 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.440 they were doing, and we're actually able to see the 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.919 athleticism guys. Guys weren't as much thinking as they were playing. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.840 And so that is part of the challenge for the 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.440 rookies and Trey McBride, the highest drafted rookie in this 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.960 claft class in this second round. He was miked up 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.520 at Cardinals rookie camp. And here's a clip. Here we go, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.200 here we go getting this ball. Damn, I got a 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.920 mug in my ear. You just got to tighten it 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.840 down on that on follow if you're number three, just 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.240 because you gotta get over there. Let's go here we 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:03.960 have ballade. He's the same palm trees football paradise. That's right. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.680 Come on, we gotta catch that man, catch the ball 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.640 all day. Bring it up, bring up, bring up, hey, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.640 good job today, man, high energy, keep it up, man, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.000 keep rolling team on three two three? About it a 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.839 montage from rookie camp, Tray McBride, you hear the football paradise. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.080 That was a reference to what Cliff Kingsbury told him 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.480 over the phone when they drafted him as a kid 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.320 who was from Colorado, played at Colorado State, first team 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.640 All American. You're John Mackey Award winner, is the top 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.400 tight end in college ball. And there he is leading 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.960 the white little bit of leadership at rookie minicamp. Yeah. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.400 I like that, PAULI. Of course, um he is the 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.479 highest pick, of course, in this year's draft day second rounder, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.440 knowing that to the Arizona Cardlson Steve Come used Marquis 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:58.280 Brown to actually absorb the twenty third pick overhaul in 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.240 the first round. That was very nice. Um, Trey McBride, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.000 I am jacked up on Polly, I really am, because 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.120 what is he six four paul, two hundred forty six 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.560 pounds is not what he is right there? Six four two. 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.800 That's interesting because George Kittle six four two fifty. I'm 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.599 just saying, Paul, I'm just saying, can you imagine right 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.560 now Trey McBride has a little something something coming out 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.000 of the side of his neck. I think his future 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.080 is not as a move tight end. I think his 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.800 future is as the why now he can play both 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.320 right now, Paully, And that's the great thing about it. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.480 He can play both. So if you do get Max 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.440 Williams back, and you do have zach Ertz as that 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.320 move tight end guy, now all of a sudden you've 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.960 got a backup for either, or if something happens to 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.480 zach Ertz in a game he gets nicked up, or 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.040 maybe Max Williams. Now, all of a sudden, you got 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.520 a guy that you could plug in and who knows, Polly, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.840 he may actually start coming out of training camp. Think 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.120 about this. He led d one tight ends with ninety 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.320 catches for over eleven hundred yards receiving right, it's pretty 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.000 good ball. But he told the media, you're gonna like this. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.200 He told the media that over seventy percent of his 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:18.120 snaps and his job in college was blocking. Yes, so 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.760 think about the production. Despite the fact that, according to him, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.719 more than two thirds of their time he's on the field, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.360 he was required to block. Yes. Now, once again, you're 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.320 gonna have to prove it to me, Polly. You know this. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.680 You know how I feel about this. I was a 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:35.400 rookie once myself. I was a rookie once myself. I 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.320 came in. Not a lot of fan fair Paul, not 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.880 a lot of fans a fullback, and they didn't throw 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:46.120 a fourth round fullback. It was not a lot right there, 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.240 even though I was one hundred and fourth overall tasted, Polly, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:55.480 there's a flex. I'm just saying. I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.480 I came in, but man, I can't tell you how 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.760 many other rookies I've seen come in. Paul is a 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.080 ten year veteran in the National Football League, and man, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:08.160 I had scouts telling me watch his kid. Watch this kid. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.400 This kid is gonna change everything. And suddenly, you know what, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.440 there was a problem because the scout thought he was 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.320 going to change the way we played football. He just 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.840 couldn't play. That was that was the problem. And I see, Paul, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.080 I'm sure you see the problem right there. Right. Well, look, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.200 once upon a time the Cardinals took Troy Nicholas in 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:35.280 round two. Yes, and that was a specimen six six, 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.120 two fifty plus, get out of my way. And we 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.680 both remember standing there in his rookie camp, right, and 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.480 he was a little banged up to start, which pretty 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.120 much typified his entire career. But when he got healthy 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.800 in the middle of training camp, what did he do 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.400 in his first old line D line drill? He stood 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.960 up Darnell Dockett. Yeah, and we all said, whoa man. Now, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:01.040 obviously his career did not materialize. So I'm not making 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.120 any sort of predictions here, but I am going to 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.720 share what Cliff Kingsbury said he likes about his rookie 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.680 tight end, Trey McBride. He's a smooth route runner. You know, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.120 we won't know until he puts the pads On. We 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.520 watched the film. We love the physicality on tape, but 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.160 this is a different level. But as far as running routes, 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.200 great athlete, you know, three sports star in high school, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.840 so it really has an ease about the way he 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.520 runs routes and does things. And here's what else the 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.240 head coach likes about Trey McBride. And this is according 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.320 to Trey McBride who shared with the meeting we talked 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.400 about this last week that coach Kingsbury would like to 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.240 disguise the offense a little bit more. And so if 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.760 you have a true duel tight end like a Max Williams, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.079 a guy who comes in and isn't an automatic tell 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.680 whether you're gonna throw or run the football, well, you 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.160 know what more that more better if you will no 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.640 doubt about it, Pali. That is what is fantastic in 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.720 regard to going to more of two tight ends set. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.160 And zach Ertz is a willing blocker. He's not a 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.000 why he's not a Max Williams. He's not going to 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.240 come off the ball and remove somebody forcibly against his will. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.880 But zach Ertz is a guy that will stick his 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.800 face into the fan and now maybe you've got a 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.440 situation where Trey McBride could be that guy, Polly. I 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.080 just think this is the evolution that needs to happen 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.640 with this offense going forward. Do you know my thoughts 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.280 on this. I'm not saying that suddenly it's going to 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.880 look like every other offense in the National Football League 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.160 for the most part, where they really blend the shotgun 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.000 with putting quarterbacks under center. I don't think we're going 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.920 to see that dramatic of a change, but I do 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.840 believe we're going to see a lot more of two 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.359 tight ends, and I think we need to look historically, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.880 we've seen tight ends after the first round over the 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.120 past decade. The numbers say only nine. Only nine tight 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.040 ends have been selected in the first round over the 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.880 past decade, so that's usually where teams will start drafting 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.920 the tight end. Now, running back, we also know that 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.760 you can find a running back back on day two, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.680 even day three, which brings us to Keyante Ingram, a 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.640 guy who I think beyond Trey McBride, has the best 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.480 chance to get on the field right away because behind 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.360 James Connor it is wide open. And Cliff Kingsbury was 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.439 asked about a six round running back out of USC. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.120 Just a work ethic, the character, all those things checked 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.440 all the boxes. I can play special teams, big physical back, 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.160 and we just felt he fit what we do and 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.880 that role. That can be your third fourth guy that 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.480 plays special teams and can come in and played a 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.520 high level on offense as well. Right, So Wolf is 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.480 a guy who spent a decade in a running back room. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.199 You tell me is a realistic You can think the 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.520 rookie can come in and challenge a Jonathan ward and 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.800 an Eno Benjamin. Yeah, Paully, I do believe that you 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.240 could come in and challenge. Will you actually win the spot? 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.840 I don't know about that, but it was interesting to 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.800 hear Cliff Kingsbury say that third or fourth spot? Was 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.160 it involved? He did say that it was a third 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.720 or Paul, He wasn't in the second spot. It was 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.640 that third or fourth you know what. I like that? 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.959 But is it a deference to the guys to you 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.400 know and Jonathan Warden? Oh, without a shot all of 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.240 a doubt. Yeah, you know what, Hey, listen, rook You're 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.800 gonna have to come in and you're gonna have to 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.439 prove it. That's what I love right there. Cliff Kingsbury 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.840 given the rookie a little sugar, given him some acknowledgement, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.320 and at the same time letting him know, hey man, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.439 we're talking about third or fourth here. You know. I 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.960 love that. That's great. That's the way it should be. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.559 Makeam learn it. By the way, it's prove it every day. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.800 Well that's always says, prove it, not one time, but 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.280 every day. Just prove it, Polly. That's all we need 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.760 right there, It implies every day. Episode thirty the Dave 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:44.360 Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals defensive end J. J. Watt, available now. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.160 To catch up on all the episodes, follow the Day 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.959 Pash Podcast of a year preferred podcast provider. Get the 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.480 latest updates via Twitter at Pash pod. Fact. We'll hear 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.120 from jj Watt a little bit later in this edition 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.240 of The Big Red Rage. But this is going to 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.120 star Lacidas Smith. You're sixth rounder out of Virginia Tech. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.760 We heard what Quentin Harris said about him, called him 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.439 a steel Pro Football Focus called him quote a steal. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.000 Now you'll hear from the sixth rounder yourself, right, A 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.560 big guy with a nasty attitude. So that's a good start, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.959 and he is next Lucida Smith on the Big Red 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:33.079 Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Jaw not selected 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.679 all right, So that was the Cardinals pick live from 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.480 Mexico City, Yes, international. It was being back to Las Vegas, where, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.680 of course the draft was being conducted after the decision 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.080 was made from the Cardinals war room and phoned in 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.640 from Tempe, which is where we are now, Dignity Health 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.000 Training Center, the Arizona Cardinals, and right in front of 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.240 us in person is Licitas Smith, all six foot three, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.200 fourteen pounds of him, and right off the top. Did 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.120 you ever think your pick would come from the south 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.120 of the border, No, sir, I actually did not think 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.160 it was gonna happen like that. But I'm very glad 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:18.800 he did. And I'm very glad I'm here, and I'm 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.640 glad they got your name right now. I am pronouncing 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.880 it right correctly. Yeah, so you are, because he is 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.000 a guy whose last name is seven letters, and it 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.200 gets butchered all the time. You know, how often do 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.360 people screw up laciitis all the time? And I'll tell 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.640 you what I get the most anxiety when you know, 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.280 I was in grade school and we have a substitute teacher, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.800 because I know that teacher does not know how to 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.240 pronounce it and likely is gonna say it wrong. And 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.319 then now I got the whole classmaking jokes and stuff. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.400 So what's the most common mispronunciation over the years. I 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:54.160 think lositissitis or no lectis. I give that a good 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.080 bit that sounds biblical almost lectis, Like, you know, that's 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.160 so so okay. It's been like, I mean, you've been 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.760 in the NFL now ever since your name was called right, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.640 two three weeks, right, what sort of whirlwind has your 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.240 life been like? It's actually been very very cool. Um, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.000 it's been an eye opening experience. You know, being on 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.080 the outside of the NFL, it just kind of seems like, oh, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.800 there's this huge uproar within the NFL from fans and 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.720 stuff like that when a draft comes around, and then 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.200 next thing you know, boom, it's time to play preseason 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.680 games and it's time for the season. But I'm actually 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.080 being a part of it. You get I get to 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.200 see day by day when our professional athletes have to 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.120 go through as far as you know, being in a 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.000 playbook all the time, making sure you're where you're supposed 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.920 to be when you're supposed to be there making sure 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.840 you're doing all the right things, making all the right 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.240 calls and the right checks, you know. So it's actually 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.240 really cool to be um behind the scenes and see 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.640 how everything works. Like I said, glad to be here. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.960 By the way, take us behind the scenes on draft day. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.560 What was the phone call like on your end? We 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.280 heard the call in Cardinal's flight plan and you were 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.800 adamant when you were talking to the GM Steve Kime, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.960 and I'm looking to the quote here you were saying, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.640 I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent and ready. I'm telling 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.400 you I'm ready, quote unquote. So what was it like 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.560 on your end? It was, Actually it was. It was 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.840 very cool once I actually got the call, because trust me, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.440 once that sixth round came around and I'm sitting back 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.440 and I see some you know, guys going ahead of me, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.840 I'm like, oh my god, I may go undrafted. Like 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.120 I was sitting and I'm like, oh man, how is 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.840 this gonna happen? This is so crazy. But um, at 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.720 the end of the day, it did happen, and when 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.120 it did, I was really at shock. Um. I did 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.280 not think it was gonna be Arizona like I said, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.080 I'm very glad it was. I'm happy to be here 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.520 and being coached by coach Coogler, you know some of 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.400 those other coaches, even the special teams coaches. But like 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.840 I said, I'm glad it happened. I'm glad it happened here. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.960 But yeah, it was. It was definitely shocked. It was shocked. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.800 Our guests, Lucida Smith, Cardinal's sixth round pick of Virginia Tech. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.920 What are you most curious to find out about the NFL. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.760 I'm actually curious about what it's like when camp comes 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.160 around and now you actually get on the field with 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.520 the big dogs. Because we've had Ricky Mine Camp, which 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.240 is a three day camp for US younger guys. The 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.120 older guys weren't even in town, and now we have 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.920 some of the older guys, but the OG veterans aren't 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.240 even here yet. So you still have guys like Beecham 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.040 and and Kyler Murray and just guys you know who 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.960 you know still aren't here yet who I have yet 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.400 to meet. So when when those guys get into town, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.440 I know it's it's on. Take me to Cardinals training camp. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.880 Have you had the thought there's gonna be an old 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.200 line D line drill, full pads, full contact, and there's 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.000 a chance that i could line up in a three 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.080 point stance and I'm staring straight across at ninety nine 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.920 J J. Watt. That's gonna be a welcome to the 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.720 NFL moment, won't it? Yes? I think it will be. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.160 I'm anna pray that it won't. I'm an pray that 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.360 you know, he doesn't teach me a lesson right there 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.719 and you know, right after that point. But um, I'm 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.680 gonna definitely try to hold my own. I mean, the 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.720 guy is definitely a legend, undoubted Leah Hall of Famer, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.639 So I mean, I hope he can teach me a 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.760 thing and two from that rep or those reps I'll 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.840 take against him. But it's definitely like I'm gonna be 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.960 staying across looking like, oh my god, I'm about to 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.320 take a rep from JJ Wise. It's gonna be crazy, hey, J. Look. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.600 DJ Humphreys has been there many times going against Chandler Jones, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.679 the Cardinals starting left tackle, and he's told us in 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.639 this very show how much better Chandler Jones made him 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.360 as a young guy, and he knew if he could 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.879 hold his own against Chandler Jones. He was ready to 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.720 go for the regular season. He was ready to go 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.520 for the rest of the schedule. And look, I'm not 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.840 saying you're not capable. I mean there's been a lot 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.359 of praise when it comes to you in your career 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.320 at Virginia Tech. In fact, the VP of Player Personnel, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.320 Quentin Harris, was on the Passpod recently and he was asked, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.680 okay by Dave, you know, give us a guy from 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.159 day two or day three in this Cardinal's draft class 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.720 that stands out to you. I really like Lucida Smith, 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.720 our guard we took out of Virginia Tech. This guy 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:06.480 is athletic, he's an excellent pooler. He's tough, he's physical, 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.879 and a lot of times, you know, you watch NFL 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.600 lineman and you're like, ah, he's tough, he's strong, but 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.520 he's slow footed. This guy is everything. He was a 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.879 still in my opinion for us. He went on to 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.280 say that he also likes your temperament. And when I 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:20.879 looked at one of the Scotter reports on you, I 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.800 think it was NFL dot Com. One of the things 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.240 they listed first, what's plays with an attitude? True or false? 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:31.040 Very true, very true. And what does that mean? Translate that? 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.760 The way I think about it is, you know, once 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.040 it's time to step in between those white lines, and 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.480 you know, I'm biting down on my mouthpiece and I'm 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.360 ready to go. Where this a run play? Hopefully it's 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.520 a run play. You know, offensive lineman love run plays. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.320 Hopefully it's a run play. And like I said, I'm 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.000 ready to go. Whether it's a double team or I'm 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.760 working alone against a three technique or whatever it may be, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.280 it'll be me against that other guy and me trying 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:58.960 to finish him, and not only to do my job, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:00.600 but do it very well to the point where I 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.720 finish him. He can't affect to play whatsoever. That's just 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.760 kind of the mentality I have at the end of 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.959 the day. Just make sure my man does not affect 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.960 the play. And I think that if every you know, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.520 all five guys up front had that mentality, we can 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.320 definitely run for a lot of yards, which I mean 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.640 the Cardinals do that every year anyway, so I won't 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.000 be nothing new for them. And if you finish that play, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.960 are you vocal about it or your trash talker? You 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.880 know what? Surprisingly, No, some people may think I am, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.159 especially with the nastiness I play with. But no, and 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.760 that's for two reasons. For one, I'm not a very 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:38.840 good trash talker. For two, it usually backfires. So I 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.320 don't want to, you know, get to mouthing off at 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:42.960 a guy and that he makes a play and I'm like, 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.359 dake it. I should have never said what I just said, 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.280 Like you know. So those are really the two reasons 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.600 that I don't. You know, I may get really I 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.439 guess into it or filled with a journalist where I 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.199 finish a guy and I get up and I'm just 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.879 I'm grunting, I'm feeling it. But nine times out of 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.680 and I don't really go off at a guy. I 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.520 don't get to mount an at a guy. We're on 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.040 board with Lucida Smith Cardinals, rookie old lineman out of 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.359 Virginia Tech. All right, So this is what I find 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.719 interesting is that Steve Kim talked about how powerful you 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.760 are as a run blocker, said you're a great pulling 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.520 guard plane in space as well. We'll get to that 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.879 in a moment. But in the same sky report a 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.960 NFL dot Com it said that you're better in pass 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.080 protection than as a run blocker. But when you were 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.199 asked for your strength with the media, you said, I 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.400 pack a punch in the run game, and I come 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.320 off the ball with a lot of power. So were 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.760 there skyter reports out there that you sort of shook 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.880 your head at during the process? They wait, a minute, 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:36.480 where are they getting this? Or do you feel like 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:41.040 you have to dispel anything that was out there pre draft? Yes, sir, 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.320 crazy enough. I did see at one point that are 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:49.199 heard at one point that some teams are concerned with 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.000 my weight, that I may have a weight problem. I 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.119 never had a weight problem. Ever, as a former tight end, 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.679 I find that surprising that you'd have a weight problem 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.840 exactly you play at three fourteen or so. Yes, okay, 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.200 So I don't know where they get that from. What's 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.199 funny is even going into my last season at Virginia Tech, 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.560 my fifth year of Virginia Tech, I've seen a lot 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.399