WEBVTT - EP 145: Snowfall Breakdown Pt.1 w/ Glasses Malone 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.000 What's happened the world? We like to welcome everyone to 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.799 another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast and I got 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.760 my guy Glasses Malone in here and Peter Boss both 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.040 from No Stillings podcast, and Mike we have a little 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.840 bit of fun. Everybody's been talking about the season finale 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:27.440 a snowfall, and it was epic. Franklin pretty much lost 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.080 this ship with a ship, robbed a bunch of people, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.600 killed a bunch of people. It's pretty epic in my book. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.360 So start, I just want to say this, I'm not 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:46.600 here for no slander, zero slander when it comes to Louis. 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.519 The only thing Louis has done wrong so far is 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.800 when she wouldn't help Franklin get at the CIA agent Teddy. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.440 That's the only issue I have and the only mistake 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.320 she made. There's no reason why Franklin should have not 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.319 empowered this brilliant street lady. You have to empower your 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.000 people when they don't want to be up under your thumb, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.040 and they showed leadership ability. You have to create an 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.520 avenue for them to explore and go as far as 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.680 they want to go without you. And that's the hardest 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.000 thing when you're in this business. For the wrong reasons. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:24.960 I agree, what makes you think somebody's will come on 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.880 here slam? Now? I do think Louis had a little 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.720 bit more than that. She's not no angel, But I 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.680 feel like you're saying he should have empowered her. He 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:40.959 should have been the only angel on Snowfall. Sissy. Yeah, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:46.160 pretty much his mom since he is an angel. So 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.200 you know, g he did a lot, man, You know, 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.240 he pretty much he broken the compounds, stole their money 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.960 in cash and everything. Then he went to told old 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.600 boy Kane is laid up in hospital, that Louis was 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.360 the one to put the hit on. Do you think 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:05.560 he went too far with it? Noll No, So while 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.359 Louis didn't, I'm not mad at her for trying to 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.880 knock Cane down because I can't try to patch him 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:16.120 or not to mention, he put a bullet in the plug, right, Um, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.240 I had no issue with any of the stuff she 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.959 was doing, her wanting to go out, even her reaching 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.520 out to the plug. As weird as that sound, because 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.880 your plug supposed to turn her down. Your plug supposed 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.520 to show loyalty, not not people who are with you 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.680 and try to expand their business. Your plug is your 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.720 go to and she should had to go to the 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.720 Columbius to do her own thing. Um. I say all 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.919 that to say that when you choose the plug over 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:49.040 somebody who empowered you, like now you're you're taking sides. Oh, 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.480 I can't help you, but I'm not gonna do nothing 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:56.280 to him because it's about me. And you know again, 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.840 that's where the ruthlessness of a woman came out. So 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.359 everything that happened, they had coming to him. It was 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.120 the inevitable. At that point, Well, you know what's so funny? 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.920 She said that this is my time. Yeah, that was 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.880 some bullshit. She said this is my time. Fun that 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.720 and where do you think they leave? Jerome at though brokers? 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.679 He looked like he kind of heard about by this man. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.679 He like this kind of bothering him a little bit. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.360 I didn't really see him after it happened, but said 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:29.280 Jerome fucked up. He listen as much as I didn't 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.360 see it going here right because I didn't see Teddy. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.920 I didn't. First off, I didn't see Teddy back doing Franklin. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:42.040 That just don't make sense. Also didn't see I also 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:46.040 didn't see Teddy. That's probably why I'm stupid at I 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.640 didn't see see Franklin fucked up when he got it 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.760 Teddy and told him he's gonna quit instead of just quentin, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.000 instead of just taking his money and disappearing. You know, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.480 you're doing business with the CIA. These people can make 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.720 you disappear, so really supposed to just take your money 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.880 and vantage, you know, like she pretty much ridded you 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.520 of all your sins, you know what I mean, she 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.440 pretty much like she took on all your birdens and 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.240 responsibility and you got seventy five to a hundred million dollars, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.080 like you could just disappear. She got a plug. But 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.400 when he went and he tried to stroke his own 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.240 ego and tell the plug or I'm done, And you 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.920 had this dumbass smirk on your face like you're not 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:25.160 playing with the damn police. You feel me hints the problems. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.920 So as far as Jerome w I think Jerome as 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.120 he saw it coming. Now, I don't know if she 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.039 talked to Jerome, you know, before she made the decision. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.760 Not hell Franklin. I cannot believe for two seconds Jerome 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.840 would have been he would have chose. He might have said, hey, 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.719 we're gonna do our own thing, and down to back 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.480 his wife for that. But there's no way possible he 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.719 would have backed his wife saying you on your own 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.479 and chose Teddy over his nephew. So that's why I 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.560 don't think Jerome quite knew what happened. So I'm definitely 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.080 interested to see if he knew what happened. I'm gonna 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.720 tell you what I think is happening, man. And this 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.680 is the way this show is going, because it's starting 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.080 to get real. I see Jerom being the one putting 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.080 the bullet in her. Yeah, for sure, I see Jerome 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.320 be the one putting the bullet. I see. It's as 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.800 much as this says me, Bro, I see little Leon 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.080 probably getting whacked somehow in the mix all this dog 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.800 he Yeah, it's just you know, his growth during the 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.839 show has been incredible. You know, he's been on his 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.440 own little personal journey and him that girl taking off 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.480 the Europe. The only way that doesn't happen is if 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:37.000 he just went away and never comes back. Because the 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.200 time period that they're entering on the show now is 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.719 about to get real stupid. It's the rise of gangsters rap. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.680 It's thed'reing a gangster rat, right. That's when California was 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:51.080 real stupid at that time. We started talking eighty eight Dog, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.800 that's about n W A tech down right. It was 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.760 really all out here at that time, Dog, it was 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.640 gang banging. Was just at It's like apex at that time. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.680 So it's about to get real stupid. And I think 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.960 the other person they're not talking about this my man, 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.680 What's my Man? From What's My Dude? The blood Dude 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:16.279 Inglewood from um oh to say, why do we always 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.719 call him Stacy? We know Dann Well his real name 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:24.520 may Stacy nor is his character name on Snowfalls Day. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.440 He's always going forever to you have mortalized the Stacy. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.720 If you ever fail that you've seen in the wood, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.880 you'd be like Stacy, you don't want to see that 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.039 nigga in person. I met him, I was like, Stacy, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:41.599 that's how you know you did a great job character 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.560 where you forever like he and he And the cold 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.520 part is Homy got a fantastic you know, he does 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.720 a great job in this you know TV show. And 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:57.200 we still will not give this character more credit than Stacy. Yeah, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:02.760 well you know the girl. You know. Anyway, they've seen 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.920 to forget Dog that they killed Cadasia and his daughter y. Yeah, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.520 you know, so this dude, they just floating around. He 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.960 comes to weddings giving them acid, you know, stuff like that. Dude, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:15.520 this is something going on with that dude. He could 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.480 come into play because they go all people. We can 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.360 ain't gonna see him coming because you gotta remember that 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.240 dude is the strategies, Yeah for sure, and he definitely 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:28.440 want to weigh them out. Um. Like I said, even 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.800 even when I dissect every character on the show, right 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.240 and I look at it and I'm and I'm I 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.960 could see where Franklin went wrong, right, I could see 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:43.480 where Franklin went wrong. Um, I see where Louis went wrong. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:51.160 I see where Teddy went wrong. Um. To me, the 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.679 angel of the show, right is sissy. But the most 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.280 trillis stand up and and maybe this is like a 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:03.120 hint of racism on my part, but the only one 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.280 who kept his solid the whole time is Gustavo Dog. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:13.280 That dude man from biased towards Mexicans when it comes 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.720 to doing street business. But they're like the most honorable 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.640 people for me when I do street When I when 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.720 I used to do street business, I was never felt 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.960 like they were ever trying to cheat me. Now, I 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.120 don't have years of thousands of years in this business, 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.760 thirty years, you know what I'm saying. But I always 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.920 felt comfortable doing business with them, like it's really business. Well, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.240 I always like the stop was character from the rip, 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.640 and I understood as well when he told him when 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.839 he kind of just hung up on Franklin, Franklin told 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.600 him he gonna get you too. He gonna get you too. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.800 Oh so you know, yeah, also know that right though, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.760 that's why he's hanging on the phone. We're gonna go 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.000 get his cheese and getting on That's why getting off 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.280 the phone, getting off the phone, go get this money 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:05.000 and get out of town. Moved a look quicker. Yeah, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.120 but Teddy pretty much you told him, you know what 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.160 he should have told Teddy him knowing what was going on, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.160 he should have told Teddy he was gonna meet him, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:19.199 just go to him. I mean, I think you should 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.079 have told Teddy ship you chose my auntie over me. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.280 This has just lifted the burden of a complete country 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:32.679 funding of war off my back. I'm not talking like 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.960 I'm saying a bare minimum because I'm trying to get 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.880 about it here with my money in my safety. I 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.000 don't want nobody to know where I'm I don't want 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.280 nobody to know my next move. Seel me at that point. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.040 But at this point, so let's go over to these characters. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.840 G and I want to hear what everybody thinks. Peter, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.640 you ain't saying much because I know you've got something 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.600 in your brisk He knew Kevin. He knew Kevin Hamilton's 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.000 in real life. So he still hurt over what happened 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:04.439 to the hummy Kevin, you know, and that's the homie 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.920 shout out to Malcolm Maze. But Malcolm, you deserve that. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.439 And then you was sucking up. Yeah, Milcolm was screwing 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.959 up Kevin Man. Kevin just he made everything so personal. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.439 And you know, I remember the episodes where he was 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.920 talking about Franklin buying them houses, right, and he was, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.959 you know, he was the one in the ear like, oh, 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.120 they bought the houses in my name. You know, he 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.160 bought the houses in his name. You know these ain't 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.600 that means I can just save my money. Like a 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.840 lot of times when I listened to a lot of 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.760 the death Row stories, right, and you know you hear 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.240 stories like all the cars with the should name. Well, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.320 guess what that means. I could burn this motherfuck up 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.840 and nothing could happen all the houses that should name. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.200 That means I could motherfucking do what I want to do, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.920 and I ain't got to spend no motherfucking money. I 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.760 ain't paying no motherfucking red, So every dime I have 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.679 go into my pocket. Most record companies for me give 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.280 you a lease card. They're not buying you know, car, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.000 They're not making that horrible investment. Most of them will 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.520 put you in the house, ain't leasing the house. Well, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.480 guess what that means? I have no fiduciary responsibilities because 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.439 when it comes down to these properties. See, keV looked 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.600 at it wrong. keV looked at it wrong. He looked 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.480 at it like, oh, you know, it's not in mindy bro. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.400 Ownership is one of the most overrated things we talk 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.720 about in our community, right and not get it because 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.559 we feel like we don't have it. There's all about control. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.840 That's an employee perspective. You know, if you're only giving 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.680 money and no vehicle and you're a worker, you don't 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:39.200 know what to do with the money. Yeah, yeah, that's true. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.959 You know what I think though, Man, I think with 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:45.200 cats like Kevin Right, it's just too much like Right, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.080 you always gotta have the one disgruninal Nigglogen, It's always 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.240 gonna be one discrounal dude. No matter what you do 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.040 for them is never enough. If you give him a million, man, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.840 it should have been too Just watch watch them. I 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.680 bet we got four or five million on my back, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.600 and they usually the nig it ain't worth for damn. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.680 They ain't nothing to the table with nothing. It's just 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.360 always like that. But where do you see I want 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.760 to just kind of analyze each character. Where do you 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.680 see um Franklin st going next season? What do you see? 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.040 How do you see this endre for him? What do 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.240 you think is like, oh, we know that that's the end. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.360 But do you think he's gonna get punched in any 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.800 way on the streets? Is he gonna get killed? No, 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:28.000 he's going to prison for sure. How many years you 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:34.720 think he gonna dudes about forever? By seven? He actually 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.400 young enough he would get out to still have half 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.440 a life. What's crazy? Is he going into turning into 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.480 a snitch? But who is he going to snitch on 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.920 the police? You think he could want to turn the States. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.959 You don't have a choice. Think about it. If you, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.880 let's say, Gustavo, like, I think it's gonna happen, Gustavo, 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.920 bump off Teddy for me, Like you're gonna have to 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.800 tell Gustar Wars gu Star Wars locked up now? Yeah, 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.319 but Gustavo gonna get out. How many seasons do you 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.040 think they got left in them? That's what it all 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.079 hinges on. The next season is the last season. That's 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.880 what we're talking about. He's gonna die in the last episode. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:12.599 That's gonna go out on him having like uh, you know, like, um, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.200 what do you call it? Where you with the audio 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.160 where he's talking over the situation as the ship pans out, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.199 it's gonna be Minister of Society. We happened the can. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.440 I think they're a little bit more talent, right, is 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.120 talented than that? Man. I don't think they're gonna be 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.360 that predictable. This is what I think will happen to him. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.080 I think he's going to suffer even more losses because 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.280 he the problem with Franklin. When you're in the d game, 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.120 you can't do it both dog. You can't beat Mr 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.199 Joe businessman Square and beat his drug lord. Right, it 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.679 just don't work. The two just don't coincide in the 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.160 same space. So I think what's gonna happen with him 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.520 by him trying to really hold on that because you 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.120 see his biggest worry do we have enough capital to 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.400 keep paying for the rents? So we're gonna lose the properties? 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.480 That was his problem in the first place. You are 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.560 a motherfucking drug dealer, you see, dupe, but trying to 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.520 aldings and drawing on yourself. Teddy was kind of right 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.880 when you got on him about that. I was with 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.760 Teddy on that stop bringing heat. You walked there by 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.640 fifty million dollar buildings. How do you substantiate that? Where 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.360 is you getting the income from? You ain't worried about 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.120 nobody asking you questions. You feel what I'm saying was 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.360 a little smarter than that. Um, I mean, I think 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.000 I think there's so many people in this country who 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.240 was doing the wrong thing and turned the legal I mean, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.360 everybody didn't earn the money the right way, oh a 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.000 hundred percent. But he was kind of being almost like 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.040 cocky with it. But you have to pay for cover 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.600 to do that at a large scale. Sure, And I 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.640 think that was his goal, right, But you know, you 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.040 start talking about corps in the early eighties and certain 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.640 attorneys in the early eighties, he was trying his best 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.600 not to mention he had permission from the CIA agent 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.080 that he was dealing with. Besides Teddy, it was somebody 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.400 trying to help him, you know, elevate out of the business. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.600 And you know that the last CIA agent that Teddy killed, 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.320 you know when he came back, I forgot to the 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.720 man name. But you know he was trying to help that. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.000 This was his idea that he gave to Franklin. He 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.040 was saying, you know, elevate out of it, like almost 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.160 like he was trying to get Franklin and out. When 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.480 this was all said and done, Teddy decided like, I'm okay, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.480 this negro feel me in this position. That way, when 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.640 it's all said and done, I could kill him and 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.880 take the money. Like you gotta remember, even when they 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:28.280 took the seventy five million from me, right, he's telling 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.480 his boss and other partners like, we got an extra 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.440 seventy five million. You don't gotta extraly, you fucking thief. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.000 You don't have an extra seventy five million. So that 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.480 just that goes to show you that, you know, they 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.200 didn't have no proper thing for Teddy. So, I mean, 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.840 I think every natural, you know, d boys goal is 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.600 to you know, to to eventually elevate into a place 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.240 where they could do legal business. I mean, to be 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.560 successful even as a drug dealer, like you have to 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.440 be really smart and resourceful, you have to be intelligent, 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.000 like you like, it's some belief that any idiot could 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.280 sell dope, and that's just the furthest thing from the truth. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.680 Most people when I was coming up, hustling and selling 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.960 you know, PCP rock whatever, they earned a regular living. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.120 Like you know, somebody might have earned four hundred dollars 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.360 a week profit, five hundred dollars a week profit they 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:18.320 wasn't making, you know, like like we was making, you know, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.280 two or three four thousand dollars a week. It just 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.800 wasn't that type of party. So I think that that's 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.320 the natural thing. So I don't fought him for, you know, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.480 especially even under the influence of the other CIA agent, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.680 to try to elevate out of the business. Well, you 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.320 know what, though, I just think he was doing too much. Man. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.760 I think Franklin, I think his you brisk and then 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.520 end dog is gonna be his downfall. He had that 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.600 like young real young arrogance. You understand what I mean. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.040 Like he just like you know, like when he was 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.960 trying to get Louis and Jerome to invest the buildings downtown, 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.960 he was almost like forced them, like y'all need to 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.080 do this, and was mad because they didn't want to 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:58.880 put their money in man that people to duke dealers. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.400 They not thinking about becoming real estate. Louie was just 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.920 a whole five years ago. But I also think, while 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.560 I agree with you to his defense, you know what 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.360 I'm saying, he felt like, yo, ill lad you this far. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:17.600 You guys are multi millionaires because of my ideas. I mean, yes, y'all. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.360 Y'all also went out of execute it and had some ideas, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.680 but you know, the whole organization is they're all multime 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.359 millionaires because of Franklin's you know, ideas. So I understood 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.439 why he felt some kind of way like there's no 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.040 reason to not trust me now. So but I also 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.200 understand Louis and and and Jerome them too grown ask 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.000 them people older than you know what I'm saying, and 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:40.520 you're trying to tell him what they're gonna do, what 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.600 they livelihood, but that that's that's the character a vice. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.119 It's like he feels entitled to reality being what he 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.040 wants it to be, and he plays around that instead 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.199 of playing around reality and what it is. And when 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:58.080 you could justify whether he thinks he's righteous and viewing 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.640 it that way, but it is still the last going 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.399 to unravel. Yeah. Well, one thing that I was just 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.720 telling I was thinking to still. I was just saying, like, 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.200 I get why you thought this way, even though whether 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.359 I re or not, I mean, I get you, like 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.520 should they should trust you? And it's like that may 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.520 not be the truth, Like they might don't look at 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.280 the whole journey the way you see the whole journey, 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.840 and that was the obvious truth. Yeah, that's true. Okay, 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.720 we used to be one of my favorite characters. Aunt 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:33.200 Louis what's happening with the next year, she gonna Papa, 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.600 I say that to our things, you're wrong, kills her. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.160 I think he winds up being the one to kill 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.960 her because she's gonna do something that kind of goes 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.840 too far. Trying to get that Franklin and that's still 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.520 his nephew at the end of the day. The fear 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:52.000 is she's more ruthless than Franklin is. So there could 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.520 be a situation where Cincy gets hurt, because I think 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:59.800 Cincy can end up dead and that's still your own sisters. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.080 So I think this could go a few ways, but 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.480 I'm with you for sure Louise doesn't survive. The way 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.320 I would write it, yeah, is I would make her 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:16.679 exactly like what she is. She's the consummate opportunist. I 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.600 would write her into being like a full on, willful 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.240 informant who leaves everybody hung the funk out to dry 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.119 and walks off and skates off with something in their pocket. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.880 I wouldn't like that. I wouldn't like it, but that's 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.600 how I write it. Uh, that would be interesting. I'm 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:40.040 not against listen that would you? I would be kind 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.679 of that would That wouldn't be far for Louis just 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:49.879 skating off into a universe everybody else every place was 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.720 to marry your own just he just happen. That's a 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.120 woman for you. A whole long term planning. They planned 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.360 their scheme to get simple things like meals, and then 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.480 they skime for grand things like millions and putting everybody 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.480 in prison. Oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy. So I'm gonna 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.000 tell you the biggest snake on the show by far 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:15.520 as Teddy's ass. I can't stay in him, man, Like, honestly, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:17.760 I wish the motherfucker's would kill him when they ambushed 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:23.600 his ass. What's crazy is he really feels like he 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.840 has this moral sense of him being right, like this 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.960 is all for the greater good of as a patriot. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.400 He like whatever it takes, like I don't care. He's 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.640 telling himself that I'm gonna tell you what's happening with him. 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.840 The rest of his life that went the shambles, and 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.040 that's the only life he knows. Remember, he tried to 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.280 go back to normal society and tried to do the 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.000 normal thing. He just couldn't. I think he got bored, 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.840 and I actually think he enjoys having people under his thumb. Sure, sure, 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.120 because if you notice, he's become more and more ruthless. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.040 He's more physically ruthless now. But I'm gonna tell you 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.920 those Russian CIA, the people from the KGP, I think 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.199 they got something for his as stone, you know what. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.040 I think they'll have the situation. But I think I 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.040 think my man will stop. Are gonna have that cover? 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.320 We'll make you think. First of all, husban stop it. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.560 We'll get out of jail. They don't have drubs on it. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.640 But he got six million dollars in this thirteen million 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.800 dollars in this trunk, and he ain't got nobody justified. 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.360 You don't have to justify the money. Who told you that? 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:27.600 Yeah you do? She didn't you all believe? So yell 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.160 believe you ran around. You get caught with thirteen million dollars. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.560 The police can confiscate that money. Now. I don't know 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.639 if they can necessarily take you to jail right off 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.520 the bat like that, but they can't take that money. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.200 My home hold the money. They can't check this out. 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.880 My home point was coming back from New Jersey. He 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.359 was right through Kansas City. They pulled him over dog 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.600 and he had ten thousand dollars he wanted to see. 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.520 You know they took that money from. Yeah, they can 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.720