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Speaker 1: What's happened the world? We like to welcome everyone to

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Speaker 1: another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast and I got

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Speaker 1: my guy Glasses Malone in here and Peter Boss both

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Speaker 1: from No Stillings podcast, and Mike we have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of fun. Everybody's been talking about the season finale

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Speaker 1: a snowfall, and it was epic. Franklin pretty much lost

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Speaker 1: this ship with a ship, robbed a bunch of people,

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Speaker 1: killed a bunch of people. It's pretty epic in my book.

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Speaker 1: So start, I just want to say this, I'm not

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Speaker 1: here for no slander, zero slander when it comes to Louis.

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Speaker 1: The only thing Louis has done wrong so far is

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Speaker 1: when she wouldn't help Franklin get at the CIA agent Teddy.

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Speaker 1: That's the only issue I have and the only mistake

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Speaker 1: she made. There's no reason why Franklin should have not

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Speaker 1: empowered this brilliant street lady. You have to empower your

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Speaker 1: people when they don't want to be up under your thumb,

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Speaker 1: and they showed leadership ability. You have to create an

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Speaker 1: avenue for them to explore and go as far as

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Speaker 1: they want to go without you. And that's the hardest

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Speaker 1: thing when you're in this business. For the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: I agree, what makes you think somebody's will come on

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Speaker 1: here slam? Now? I do think Louis had a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than that. She's not no angel, But I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're saying he should have empowered her. He

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Speaker 1: should have been the only angel on Snowfall. Sissy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much his mom since he is an angel. So

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Speaker 1: you know, g he did a lot, man, You know,

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Speaker 1: he pretty much he broken the compounds, stole their money

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Speaker 1: in cash and everything. Then he went to told old

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Speaker 1: boy Kane is laid up in hospital, that Louis was

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Speaker 1: the one to put the hit on. Do you think

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Speaker 1: he went too far with it? Noll No, So while

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Speaker 1: Louis didn't, I'm not mad at her for trying to

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Speaker 1: knock Cane down because I can't try to patch him

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Speaker 1: or not to mention, he put a bullet in the plug, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: I had no issue with any of the stuff she

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Speaker 1: was doing, her wanting to go out, even her reaching

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Speaker 1: out to the plug. As weird as that sound, because

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Speaker 1: your plug supposed to turn her down. Your plug supposed

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Speaker 1: to show loyalty, not not people who are with you

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Speaker 1: and try to expand their business. Your plug is your

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Speaker 1: go to and she should had to go to the

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Speaker 1: Columbius to do her own thing. Um. I say all

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Speaker 1: that to say that when you choose the plug over

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Speaker 1: somebody who empowered you, like now you're you're taking sides. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't help you, but I'm not gonna do nothing

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Speaker 1: to him because it's about me. And you know again,

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Speaker 1: that's where the ruthlessness of a woman came out. So

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Speaker 1: everything that happened, they had coming to him. It was

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Speaker 1: the inevitable. At that point, Well, you know what's so funny?

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Speaker 1: She said that this is my time. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: some bullshit. She said this is my time. Fun that

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Speaker 1: and where do you think they leave? Jerome at though brokers?

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Speaker 1: He looked like he kind of heard about by this man.

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Speaker 1: He like this kind of bothering him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really see him after it happened, but said

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Speaker 1: Jerome fucked up. He listen as much as I didn't

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Speaker 1: see it going here right because I didn't see Teddy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. First off, I didn't see Teddy back doing Franklin.

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Speaker 1: That just don't make sense. Also didn't see I also

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Speaker 1: didn't see Teddy. That's probably why I'm stupid at I

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Speaker 1: didn't see see Franklin fucked up when he got it

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Speaker 1: Teddy and told him he's gonna quit instead of just quentin,

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Speaker 1: instead of just taking his money and disappearing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're doing business with the CIA. These people can make

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Speaker 1: and vantage, you know, like she pretty much ridded you

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Speaker 1: of all your sins, you know what I mean, she

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Speaker 1: pretty much like she took on all your birdens and

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Speaker 1: like you could just disappear. She got a plug. But

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Speaker 1: when he went and he tried to stroke his own

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Speaker 1: playing with the damn police. You feel me hints the problems.

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Speaker 1: So as far as Jerome w I think Jerome as

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Speaker 1: he saw it coming. Now, I don't know if she

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Speaker 1: Not hell Franklin. I cannot believe for two seconds Jerome

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Speaker 1: don't think Jerome quite knew what happened. So I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: interested to see if he knew what happened. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be the one putting the bullet. I see. It's as

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Speaker 1: much as this says me, Bro, I see little Leon

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Speaker 1: probably getting whacked somehow in the mix all this dog

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Speaker 1: he Yeah, it's just you know, his growth during the

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Speaker 1: show has been incredible. You know, he's been on his

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Speaker 1: about to get real stupid. It's the rise of gangsters rap.

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Speaker 1: It's thed'reing a gangster rat, right. That's when California was

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Speaker 1: real stupid at that time. We started talking eighty eight Dog,

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Speaker 1: So it's about to get real stupid. And I think

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Speaker 1: the other person they're not talking about this my man,

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Speaker 1: What's my Man? From What's My Dude? The blood Dude

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Speaker 1: Inglewood from um oh to say, why do we always

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Speaker 1: may Stacy nor is his character name on Snowfalls Day.

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Speaker 1: He's always going forever to you have mortalized the Stacy.

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Speaker 1: If you ever fail that you've seen in the wood,

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Speaker 1: nigga in person. I met him, I was like, Stacy,

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Speaker 1: that's how you know you did a great job character

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Speaker 1: where you forever like he and he And the cold

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Speaker 1: part is Homy got a fantastic you know, he does

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Speaker 1: we still will not give this character more credit than Stacy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you know the girl. You know. Anyway, they've seen

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Speaker 1: to forget Dog that they killed Cadasia and his daughter y. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so this dude, they just floating around. He

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Speaker 1: dude is the strategies, Yeah for sure, and he definitely

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Speaker 1: could see where Franklin went wrong, right, I could see

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Speaker 1: where Franklin went wrong. Um, I see where Louis went wrong.

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Speaker 1: I see where Teddy went wrong. Um. To me, the

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Speaker 1: angel of the show, right is sissy. But the most

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Speaker 1: trillis stand up and and maybe this is like a

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Speaker 1: That dude man from biased towards Mexicans when it comes

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Speaker 1: to doing street business. But they're like the most honorable

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Speaker 1: people for me when I do street When I when

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Speaker 1: thirty years, you know what I'm saying. But I always

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Speaker 1: I always like the stop was character from the rip,

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Speaker 1: Oh so you know, yeah, also know that right though,

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Speaker 1: that's why he's hanging on the phone. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: get his cheese and getting on That's why getting off

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Speaker 1: but Teddy pretty much you told him, you know what

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Speaker 1: This has just lifted the burden of a complete country

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Speaker 1: don't want nobody to know where I'm I don't want

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Speaker 1: nobody to know my next move. Seel me at that point.

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Speaker 1: But at this point, so let's go over to these characters.

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Speaker 1: G and I want to hear what everybody thinks. Peter,

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Speaker 1: to the hummy Kevin, you know, and that's the homie

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Speaker 1: shout out to Malcolm Maze. But Malcolm, you deserve that.

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Speaker 1: And then you was sucking up. Yeah, Milcolm was screwing

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Speaker 1: talking about Franklin buying them houses, right, and he was,

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Speaker 1: guess what that means. I could burn this motherfuck up

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Speaker 1: That means I could motherfucking do what I want to do,

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Speaker 1: and I ain't got to spend no motherfucking money. I

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Speaker 1: go into my pocket. Most record companies for me give

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Speaker 1: you a lease card. They're not buying you know, car,

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Speaker 1: They're not making that horrible investment. Most of them will

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Speaker 1: put you in the house, ain't leasing the house. Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what that means? I have no fiduciary responsibilities because

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Speaker 1: when it comes down to these properties. See, keV looked

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Speaker 1: Ownership is one of the most overrated things we talk

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Speaker 1: about in our community, right and not get it because

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Speaker 1: we feel like we don't have it. There's all about control.

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Speaker 1: That's an employee perspective. You know, if you're only giving

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Speaker 1: You know what I think though, Man, I think with

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Speaker 1: you always gotta have the one disgruninal Nigglogen, It's always

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Speaker 1: gonna be one discrounal dude. No matter what you do

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Speaker 1: for them is never enough. If you give him a million, man,

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Speaker 1: it should have been too Just watch watch them. I

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Speaker 1: bet we got four or five million on my back,

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Speaker 1: and they usually the nig it ain't worth for damn.

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Speaker 1: like man Leon. You know Leon is still there. What

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00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna do to Leon? Um? I don't think Leon

426
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be with it like that though, though, But

427
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: then Leon sold loyal Hill is gonna be what he

428
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna fun with Franklin? Or or how do how do Jerome?

429
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: How do Jerome and Louis c Leon? At this point,

430
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: like if if I'm beefing with Franklin, right, I'm going

431
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: out to Louis. I mean, excuse me, I'm going out

432
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: to Leon like I would go right after him because

433
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: I would think that's gonna be your number one problem.

434
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: He got control of the projects. I'm going right after him.

435
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: I think. You know what, bro something that tells me

436
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: that if Leon don't get killed, he's gonna get away

437
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Scott free. It's gonna be either one. Sure. I think

438
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: that's how I hope you get away too. You know.

439
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: It's funny, and I think people become so invested in

440
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: this movie man, because it it's real dog. It's like

441
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: stuff like this was going on back there. You know.

442
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: I think it maybe a little bit of Bellance dog

443
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: on some of the things, but stuff like this was

444
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: really going on. Rie was really up there selling dope

445
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: for the motherfucker's sea. People thought that was so crazy.

446
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is getting crazy. They have planes.

447
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dog, it was a ton of drug dealers,

448
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: not a ton, but jug dealers had planes in the eighties.

449
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how much, how many keyloads

450
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: of cocaine the most powerful players in America was dealing with.

451
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something, And I don't know if

452
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: you ever tripped off this, but you've got an airport

453
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: over in Compton that was pretty much built up the

454
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: snuff in the eighties, right during that time period. You

455
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: have another one in Hawthorne. Don't nobody use some airports

456
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: no more? But it's all kind of airports around from

457
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: that era. Dog, people using airports are still open and

458
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: they still open. Dog, don't nobody ever fly out up,

459
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: but they're still there. Hawthorn, Yeah, Hawthorn is a very

460
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: active air strip. Yeah. But if you notice that the

461
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: Peter that all of those kind of popped up in

462
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: the eighties during that time, it makes you wonder how

463
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: much cocaine ran across that that that roadway out of cocaine,

464
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: A whole lot of it. Now, this is what I

465
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: do think, Man, I think it's your wrong kills, Louis.

466
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I got a couple of other questions, though, Dog, you

467
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: remember Lucia, the girl that Yeah, do you think she's

468
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: working with the fist and stuff? You think she's just gone?

469
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, the one who found the thing in

470
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: the lamp. No, No, that's that's his lady, now, his

471
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: first lady that dragged him into the business, the drug

472
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: lord's daughter, and she just disappeared. When of the calls

473
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: do all that ship trying to get correct, trying to

474
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: find out the recipe. But I'm saying, did she did

475
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: maybe did she decide to leave the show? I mean

476
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: said they just stopped writing her in. Sure, I don't know, Dog,

477
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: but I think they just kind of just left that hanging.

478
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: It's just like, where is this other the nigger that

479
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: he found out the nigga stole the cash with's my

480
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: boy's name on the Jean peaches my boy Pa man

481
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: peaches on that dope too. I think got eight too, Dog. Yeah,

482
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: he was coughing. And what's weird is the belief that

483
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: like um, he turned on Franklin. I'm like, I don't

484
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: know quite what. You know? He they can find him

485
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: and he could literally be about to die. Because I

486
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: agree because he was shooting up heroin and he looked

487
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: really sick. And it's around the med eighties. You know

488
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that it could easily be a bad

489
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: situation for him. Well, you know what I think, bro,

490
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: I think with him, and I'm still sat Louis has

491
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: something with that money disappearing dog. I think she has

492
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: something to do with that. We're frankly getting robbed dogs.

493
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: It was just too smooth for get away, you know

494
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'll tell you one thing. She is

495
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: super like. I always thought she was ruthless enough to

496
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: be a drug lawd but she's ruthless enough to be

497
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: a Mexican cartel leader. I mean, I wouldn't put nothing

498
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: past her at this point. I got to put respect

499
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: on her name when it comes to that ruthless bullshit. Yeah,

500
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: she gotta like easy. If she got a dope thing.

501
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: She got a dope thing. Former police officers that they're

502
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: stealing cracking people. Now, that's what really tripped me out.

503
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: I think she just keeping them around to put a

504
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: bullet in his head. And she gets buying her time

505
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, you gotta think like that's why

506
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: I think she's the perfect leader right for organization, because

507
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: of how she maneuvers right with what everything she's doing.

508
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: Like that was the time she could have killed that

509
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: police man, but realized he was an end. You know.

510
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't work for them, and he needs to

511
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: take care of his family, double his pay, and he's

512
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: an end to different detectives because all these different police

513
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: fell up under him. And it's obviously he's a ruthless killer.

514
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: And he on drugs, so that means he's controllable. And

515
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: he was sloppy the way he tried to execute that

516
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: hit on Cane, Yeah, because he was on that That's

517
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: because he was on that work. Yeah, he was. He

518
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: was on that work, got his own boy kill, got

519
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: his partner killed, you know. And I think another person

520
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna suffer some casualties this season managed my boy

521
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: Jerome Jerome Leon, my two favorite characters on the show Man.

522
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Jerome is real old school and whoever the actor yos

523
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: Man I think his name is, I mean Joseph. He

524
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: does an excellent job with that character. Yeah he doesn't,

525
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't. It's funny because it's not really rooted behind

526
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: the real character, but it's such a I call him

527
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: a character of of some ship like that. He's a

528
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: great caricature a man. Yeah, he's a big it's never exaggerated,

529
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: but it's just dope enough to wear us on TV.

530
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: Is fire. Like my my favorite line is that nigga said,

531
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: teaching man, some squabbles get that time nigger. I was like,

532
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, But the thing is, though, he's that

533
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: nigger from that areas. You gotta remember, you get in

534
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: the eighties, you had a lot of cash that was

535
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: really just moved up to LA when it was five

536
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: or six years old from Alabama, Mississippi, all kind of places.

537
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: So they still kind of had that big comfry swagger

538
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: with him meeting. The way they dressed they was kind

539
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: of loud, colors man, real just flamboyant with a bunch

540
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: of jewry on the stuff. So you can see his

541
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Southern roots in there and stuff. Bro, I think he's

542
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: a good care And he told Franklin when this whole

543
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: thing first started. Remember he told nephew this stuff called problems. Yeah,

544
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: he knew it, this stuff called problems. He pretty much

545
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: said that he was um. He pretty much made the point. Bro,

546
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: that it was gonna tear their family up, and it's

547
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: about to do it. I think I don't see CC

548
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: making it out next season though you think Pete's sissy Pete,

549
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: We really need to hear the white man's perspective on

550
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: this man. We just got to talk to Pete about Teddy. Yeah, Teddy, Like, like,

551
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: tell me what is Teddy fall? And under the hierarchy

552
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: of evil white men, is there one? Yeah? Like like

553
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: is he is? He? Is he in the upper file?

554
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: The winner? This is weird man. And I'm gonna say this,

555
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: and I don't want to cut you off, Pete, but

556
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: I want to add this. He really thinks he's doing

557
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: his patriotic duty. That's you gotta be scared with somebody

558
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: that possess. Go ahead, Pete. I'm sorry now, I mean

559
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's We could do a lot

560
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: of worse, you know, and get hitler man. Yeah, yeah,

561
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: it does. I mean, it's it's one of those things.

562
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: It kind of comes into that kind of endless discussion

563
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: about like what's facilitating free will versus what's you know,

564
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: really heavy handed downward pressure on it. So I think

565
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: there's that element to it, and you know, this is

566
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: this whole situation like the c I A thing and

567
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: that that that it's like vintage, like the stereotypical you

568
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: know Bush family operation. I mean people forget like George H. W.

569
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Bush ran the CIA and was a political arch enemy

570
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: of Ronald Reagan before they broke her a deal in

571
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: like the night um Republican what do you call that

572
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: thing that where they announced who's going to be the

573
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: nominee mm hm. So you know, you know he's he's

574
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: a legacy politician. So yeah, there's a top down mentality

575
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: behind all of that ship where it's like, oh, and

576
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: you look at the way that like George Bush and H. W. Bush,

577
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: who do they go after? They go after small measly

578
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: countries that are easy winds, that are very expensive easy winds,

579
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Whereas who did Reagan spearhead

580
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: independently going after Mikail Gorbachov? You know, we're gonna take

581
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: down the USSR for free Georgia is like we're gonna

582
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: go into Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, We're gonna go into Eastern Europe.

583
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna go all these small places that cost a

584
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: fucking fortune. It's like for what so you kind of

585
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: get that that mentality that, yeah, you're looking for these

586
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: people who probably think, oh my god, if Kaye has

587
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: spreads from Nicaragua to Honduras to Guatemala, were fucked. It's like, yeah, yeah,

588
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: because otherwise what would we do without them? So, I mean,

589
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: he's kind of one of those dudes that just typically

590
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: is he's just iss. How a person who could tell

591
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: himself whatever he wants to believe to make him do

592
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: whatever is that he wants to do for himself. At

593
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think he's an evil dude, man.

594
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: I think he's intentions before Franklin even equipment. Think his

595
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: attentions was to keep the gravy train going and when

596
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: he was done with them, put a bullet in their

597
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: here and take that money and keep it pushing. I mean,

598
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: is that necessarily wrong? You know? I'm gonna tell you this,

599
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: dog Franklin kind of lost me when he let him

600
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: do his day that way. I don't think he let

601
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: him do his daddy that way. And I still have

602
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: questions about album too. You think Nout's dead, I we'll see,

603
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: you know what, that might be a play dog. He

604
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: may come up out of nowhere. He may be the

605
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: want to come and get Teddy's asked. You never know,

606
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: but I doubt I think a man's doing that. The

607
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: Teddy walked up, but again out fucked up. He was

608
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: doing too much, dog and I respected, like, I get

609
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: what he was standing for. But you gotta play the

610
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: game the right way. Man. If you you know, you

611
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: do all that ship, man, you gotta know what comes

612
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: with it. So um, that was tough man. That was tough.

613
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I liked out in too. I'm glad I wasn't that

614
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: got the ship together too before it was all over.

615
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: You know what do I see happening? Man? I see Franklin,

616
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: As you know, Franklin is a little resourceful motherfucker, right.

617
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: I see him getting the line on Teddy's kids. I

618
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: see him getting the line on somebody that Teddy knows,

619
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: dog deep in the thing. And I see him kind

620
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: of putting Teddy in the twist. Yeah, put Teddy in

621
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: a twist because Teddy is the US government, Like I

622
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: think that. I think at this point, make a book

623
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: the government. Listen. If Teddy was to do some real bullshit,

624
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, the CIA agents. You feel me, It's like

625
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: some of these l a gang, they will kill a

626
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: own and they can watch their hands and tell you

627
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: any time, you gotta remember he's roped to give them

628
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: plausible to my ability. And I'm saying they can always

629
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: say we didn't know what the hell he was out

630
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: there doing, and he just slid his throat. And I

631
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen, Dude. I think it's a

632
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: lot more to this than what we think. Dog. I think,

633
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: I really think that Louis is more even than we think.

634
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: I think she orchestrated that hit. I think that's why

635
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: she's trying. And so he had been on whack and

636
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: King says she has something to do with that ship. Yeah,

637
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Louis definitely. Again, that's a character. I've liked you the

638
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: whole thing. I respected her, come up, I respected or

639
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: stay down. And the very last episode, you know, she

640
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: just lost me. I was like, damn, you're gonna do

641
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: the nigger that made your multimillionare like that for a

642
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: stranger for me that I get he can help you

643
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: get more money, But I'm never with money over everything.

644
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Anybody who says that to some degree you feel me

645
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: and really with some passion, I don't. I don't really

646
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: trust nobody who says money over everything or self made,

647
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: because if you say money over everything for me, that

648
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: means you sell me out. If if it's if, it's uh,

649
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: If it's uh, I just lost my train of thought.

650
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: It's money over everything, you sell me out. You say

651
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: two of the world was self made, self made, that

652
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: means you ain't giving people proper creating. Yeah, because don't

653
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: nobody do it all body itself? Bro. It's also I

654
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: think maybe in cases like that, and I don't mean

655
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: like drug dealer cases. I mean cases where you have

656
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: people that would, you know, double cross a partner for whatever.

657
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: It's like you have a lot of money, you're you

658
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: can get a little, you can get more money, no question,

659
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: get more money. But I think it's more that the

660
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: money is emblematic about control and feeling like the ego

661
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: stroke of being I'm in charge, this is me, Everything

662
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: revolves around me. Then necessarily it's like, Okay, I got

663
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in seven versus I have a hundred

664
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. You can't do a whole lot different, you know,

665
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, like you really can't. It's not

666
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: a lifestyle changing dollar amount. But the control element is

667
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 1: a lifestyle changing mentality. Yeah, I feel you. You know, what,

668
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: what is it about this stuff that you think telling us?

669
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: Because I know he's saying this is page duty and everything.

670
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: But I think Teddy actually likes being a drug lord. Dude.

671
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty fun. It would be a lot

672
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: of fun after consequences to selling drugs is fucking awesome

673
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: outside of the fact you're hurting and injuring people. A

674
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of fun. Oh my god, if

675
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: like literally I didn't have to go to jail, oh

676
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: my god, I've been doing it right now, I wouldn't

677
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: have time to do the podcast still because at this

678
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: point in my life, I genuinely care about human beings

679
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: a little too much at that time, I think being

680
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: ignorant to certain ideas, really believing people were making a

681
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: conscious choice. What I'm saying, Um, remember, I wouldn't even

682
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: do a liquor deal with still, Like, I'm like, yeah,

683
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm cool. You shouldn't be terribly offensive, I understand. So, so, uh,

684
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: I think Teddy. I think Teddy is a trooper. I mean,

685
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: obviously there is certain parts of him that ain't right,

686
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: because that's why you stay wrapped in the bullshit. But

687
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: in in some way he probably compare himself to Andrew

688
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Jackson in different heroes that are that are, you know,

689
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: reverer of the past. You haven't had to do ruthless

690
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: things for the expansion of America. And I'm saying we

691
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: celebrate some of those people to this day. So no,

692
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird place for Teddy. But again, you know,

693
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm not working with us. I just don't think. I

694
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: just don't know how evil it is. Again, everybody is

695
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: so self motivating this situation, Like like Teddy and and

696
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: and Leon and Louis and Jerome, you know what I mean,

697
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: they were innocent until they realized what was going to

698
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: happen to their community. Once they saw that happen, As

699
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: you keep participating past that, feel me, that's when you

700
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: start to choose. That's what I think. Selling your soul

701
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying right there. It was. It was

702
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, I think, not even to a

703
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: certain exting. Right, So what do you so where do

704
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: you guys directionally think that they you know that the

705
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: writers are gonna like go that the story is gonna

706
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: track as far as how the CIA has dealt with.

707
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: It's like you can take the feel good approached and

708
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: veered to the left or whatever and say, yeah, they're

709
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: going to get their come up, and or you can go,

710
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna pursue kind of like the rhetorical, the rhetoric

711
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: of they're beyond approach. They always skate, there's never any

712
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: consequences for them, and go to the right and nothing

713
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: happens to them, you know, like they do whatever the

714
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: hell they do. They sweep it under the rugs. Some

715
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: guy gets a medal and a pension and that's the

716
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: end of it. You know, like it could you could

717
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: write it either way and it could be compelling either way. Well,

718
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I think. I think they're gonna guys

719
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: like the whole thing. Man. I think it's gonna be.

720
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be amongst people going to jail.

721
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna mirror

722
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: the real dope game because they've kept authentic so far.

723
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: I can't see them just look Franklin, go out and

724
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: do all this stuff and not have no consequences to it. Man,

725
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: for every action c I a ops. I think ultimately

726
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: they could wind up throwing ten of the bus too.

727
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be some blowback from this, just

728
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: like it was before and and and everybody. Everybody played

729
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: their position. Think about it, that story, Just think about

730
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: Freeway Rick story in this self Gene doing this seem

731
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: like that would still be national headlines. What's funny is

732
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: the person who said him up didn't get no trouble.

733
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Dog, It's like nobody talks about

734
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: that Dog, So all this stuff ultimately gets this miss

735
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: that's almost being a myth, almost like it never happened,

736
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: you know what. That is true for something to be

737
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: of that epic proportion. It is not talked like it's

738
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: just a punk ass TV show. Yeah, think about it,

739
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: bro Our government had pretty much destroy the urban and

740
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these things, and a lot of these

741
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: communities still happen to recover to this day, Dog, A

742
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: lot of these so tracking I never I guess I

743
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: never thought about it like that. A lot of the communities,

744
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: man that you know, was um suffer from the onslaughter,

745
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: cracking all that. In eighties. People are starting to recover

746
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: out here, for sure. They just know I'm starting to recover. Dog,

747
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: and I think at certain place, like when I go naughty,

748
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: not just St. Clair, it's different. Don't do to Cleveland.

749
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: It's definitely still well you know what Cleveland clinic brought

750
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: a half He's Cleveland. So no, yeah, they've changed this

751
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: half million their arms over there. Now you know that's

752
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: big for a while, for a while. But the thing

753
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: you was, Dog, that was catastrophic to our communities. Dog,

754
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: look at Detroit, all them empty houses that only drugs,

755
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: but closing down the factories and drugs. Yeah, so you

756
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: you you put all that together, Dog, and you find

757
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: out that this government has something to do with this,

758
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: and the ain't nobody talking about it. Bro we should

759
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: never trust the government again as black people. It's my man, Pete.

760
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: That's what Pete always tell me. We should never trust

761
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: the government again, Broke, because take Pete, like, man, the

762
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: government some bushit that's generally how I look at it,

763
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: And it's all white people by and large. You know,

764
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: you go, it's so like when you think about it, bro,

765
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: it seems like it can't be real, almost like this

766
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: is a movie, right, but it's based on some stuff

767
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: that really happened, Bro. And I'm pretty sure you know

768
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: what man, we gotta get ricked on here one day

769
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: and really just break it down to him becase I've

770
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: hear him talking about this stuff a million times, but

771
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: do this seems like he keeping stuff out to you. Um,

772
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: he got that pot with Dave Man, shout out to

773
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: them that pot is dope. After the uh, after the snow. Yeah. Um,

774
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: I haven't really got into a chat, but yeah, Rick

775
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: definitely gives the highlight of it all. Um. But I

776
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of moving parts, you know, like

777
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: where Uncle Shitty and different people that was around the

778
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: freeway boys could connect a lot more. It's like if

779
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: you ask Franklin, you know, the character Franklin don't know

780
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: quite how Like he might have had the general concept

781
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: of how, you know, the trade around the rest of

782
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: the country was gonna work, right, that was the general

783
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: consensus around the rest of the country was gonna work.

784
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: Like Franklin is the kind of person that could drill,

785
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: build up a blueprint, but that don't mean need to

786
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: build a house. So I think that's what you get

787
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: with Rick. I think you get the highlights where Rick

788
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: you could slam dunks, the block shots, you know, the fights,

789
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: but you don't get the true you know, defense for

790
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: possessions in the row, the offensive rebound that changed the game.

791
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: And I think because Rick is spoken as like it's Rick,

792
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: like Rick is just as you know this guy, and

793
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: it's like the Freeway Boys for me, and whether Rick

794
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: is the center of attention, you know, like Magic Johnson.

795
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: That don't mean kareem my dude, Jabbar wasn't there, don't

796
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: James Worthy wasn't there. I don't mean defensive you know phenomenon.

797
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: Michael Cooper wasn't there, Barron Scott or Ac Green or

798
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Kurt rambas I was gonna saying how many how far

799
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: down the line are you gonna you give? Kurt Rambis.

800
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Rambis is my guy. I mean, I'm I'm a showtime baby.

801
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing with Rick. I think Rick,

802
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: you get the highlights, but I think you need to

803
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: have more conversation with the Freeway Boys, probably to get

804
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: more in depth of what's going on when it comes

805
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: to gameplay. Well, you know what death what we should do, man,

806
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: we need to hit big shitty. If I need to

807
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: hit I ain't talk big about six months and uncle

808
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: shitty freeway shitty man. Yeah, I gotta hit him up. Man,

809
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: that's the homie right there. We definitely need to get

810
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: him on there. Well. For those out there that hadn't

811
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: watched Snowfall, I suggestion go back and people I got

812
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: on the series kind of late, fell in love when

813
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: it went back and watched season one all the way up.

814
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: I think it's the real deal. I think John Singleton

815
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: is probably last give rest in peace to us. Yeah,

816
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: and I think he's a genius. I think he's brilliant

817
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: and I'm glad he did it. Bro. John Singleton has

818
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: chronicle West Coast culture like any other filmmaker man period.

819
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: Like he's he's responsible for our stories being heard. I think,

820
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: um boys in the hood with that represented. What I'm

821
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: saying is is crazy, even baby boy small ideas like

822
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: John is tough and Snowfall Like I said, that was

823
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: his last gift he gave us. Yeah, a little little

824
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: inside baseball on that topic, like I might not be

825
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: inside in this room, but to the audience hopefully. UM.

826
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: I believe as I was told UM that John wanted

827
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: to do make the show a small are a more

828
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: local scope show, and the FX production people wanted to

829
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: tie it into the larger Iran contra you know, scale

830
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: and making it more broad national, international type of have

831
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: that twist in there as well. Do you guys like

832
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: that that component was brought into the show at such

833
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: a center point of the show or would you have

834
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: liked the show more if it had been much more

835
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: of a localized boys in the hood type of feel

836
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: for the show? Personally me, I think we got that,

837
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think we got that, and

838
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: I think I think the show for its for it

839
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: to continue, whereas that now you would have to take

840
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: it further, you know, you would have to expand the

841
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: ideas and you know, push past it because Rick was

842
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: going further out of l A. You know, Rick was

843
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: taken drugs all around the country. You know, his ship

844
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: changed in in his click the freeway. Freeway Boys was

845
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: doing a lot so um. I like when John single

846
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: to controlling then gave us the elements of how it

847
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: affected the inner city. But I also enjoyed, you know,

848
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: not as much the second part. I enjoyed the fact

849
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: that they tire us into cocaine cowboy country. You know,

850
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: they tied into Queen of the South ware. It shows that,

851
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, because remember they're not taking crazy trips. The

852
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: last episode, they went to, uh, you know, the Wrigley Island,

853
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Wrigley Island, that's where it was at. Still the Wrigley

854
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: Island over the what's it called on that so what's

855
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: the name? Went to what's the name of the island?

856
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: When he threw his he went to the Wrigley Island

857
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: had something way further away. They're not getting out of control, oh,

858
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: you know. So I appreciate. I appreciate the dynamics to

859
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: the characters. I really do. Um Franklin is just you know,

860
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: it's a tough out. Like. I don't think he's a

861
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: bad guy at all. I just think he's in a

862
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: little too deep. I think Franklin is a young dude man.

863
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: He made a lot of mistakes that he's gonna definitely

864
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: have the answer to. Um. And like you said, I

865
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: think the writing was so brilling on there. I knew

866
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people get a show flet because John

867
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: ain't there no more. But I think they're doing with

868
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: John envisioned them doing. You know what I mean. You

869
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: can tell his footprints all over this stuff. His fingerprints

870
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: is all on this thing, you know. But I appreci

871
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it I really, you know, the ending is

872
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: really spectacling. Um, I stand by Olso is the only

873
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: one who lives, because So it is just that kind

874
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: of cat. Well, we gotta see if Olso we gotta

875
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: jail first, get out of jail. Also is the only

876
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: one that could go to Mexico and just be down there,

877
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you gotta be a different

878
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: kind of person to even come deal with him. And

879
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: I guarantee you dog, do you know this? Olso had

880
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: all that paper stick there also with the same jacket

881
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: and every day dog. Yeah, he's the one you gotta

882
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: watch out. Nothing more than what he is. And he's

883
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: gonna like also is pure with this ship. Yeah he's

884
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: a real deep boy. And said so. But I appreciate Sissy,

885
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think she had the right idea, Like

886
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: you gotta kill Teddy. She understood the c I agent

887
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: had to go. And that's a tough out because you

888
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: don't know that he's a rogue agent. You know, you

889
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: don't know that. But she understood that he needed to

890
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: be gone. There was no way. And she she got

891
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: it better than Louis, she got it better than Franklin.

892
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: She got it. She understood there was no way possible

893
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: she could let anybody. He could let anybody live because

894
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They they had to put you in prison.

895
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: They were gonna take your money, you feel me, or

896
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: they have to kill you. So I think she had

897
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: the idea of the whole time. So I just want

898
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: to go on record and saying how much I appreciate

899
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: you know that sister for really understanding that you gotta

900
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: cut the snake off right there and mean and deal

901
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: with everything goes after that. She actually might I think

902
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: she has an idea that he's a rogue agent. Well,

903
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: I think she does. I know those people, definitely. I

904
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: know those case b A just damn sure about the

905
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: final Remember they got man, Yeah, they But you know what,

906
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: the hobby couldn't be trusted though. Dog how he was

907
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: playing games over and he said, I founded the boy.

908
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: But I can tell you stuff on him too. I'll

909
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: be ready to give everybody up. I've he seen it do.

910
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: He hasn't survived as long as he had without being

911
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: a little filed. Remember how he was an the former too.

912
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: He sneaks on some people. Yeah, obviously some ship man.

913
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: That's I ain't gonna lie. A lot of people like Harvey,

914
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: but and he was a cool character. But I was

915
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: happy when they got killed. Snitches, man, you gotta bias

916
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: against snitches. Me and snitches don't really do well. Brother.

917
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's it's and he was a

918
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: cool character, but it's like he was a rat and

919
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: he had everything coming in. I was so happy when

920
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: he got killed. When it happened, I just smiled a

921
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: little bit, like, yes, you know. The thing is, bro,

922
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: all of them people getting what they deserve is open

923
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: the pieces of ship people. Though I'm not with you there,

924
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: but I get what you're saying. A lot of more

925
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: piece of ship people like Teddy whatever happens to him,

926
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: though he deserves it. And then something I don't know

927
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: if Teddy's a piece of I think Teddy has some

928
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: really fucked up ways like that. The move with Louie

929
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: is something I wasn't fond of, Like that was just

930
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: trashy for me. Even from your perspective as a CIA

931
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: agent and you're funding award. Franklin has been doing right

932
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: by you. It's no way you go behind him. That

933
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: just stupid. You don't make two deals. You don't do

934
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: that for me. You keep the pipeline going so and

935
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: it was no reason for him to believe, you know,

936
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Louis was gonna do better. It was just him getting that. Frankly,

937
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: he's taking it too personal and and that's something I

938
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: don't like. But outside of that, like, I think Teddy

939
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: has been pretty decent at conducting himself as the racist

940
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: devil he is, what I'm saying, and as the patriotic

941
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: soldier he is. I think he's done a decent job

942
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: for the most part. But again, he's in too deep. No,

943
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: he got shot. He is fucked up, you know what

944
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you know, I understand him having to

945
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: kill out, like I get it from his perspective, like

946
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: this Nigga Kaite lived for me. Also, I don't like.

947
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: You know what I don't like about Teddy the fact

948
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: that a CIA agent feels like he needs revenge. That's

949
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: the thing, like you supposed to be about justice. I'm

950
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: I get as a white man, right and the CIA

951
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: trying to fund award justice, but you shouldn't be taking revenge.

952
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: And that's why I think I do agree with you

953
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: that you know, his fatal flaw is his his desire

954
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: for revenge versus keeping things just right, trying to trying

955
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: to keep you know, the ground America has gained in

956
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: other countries. Well, you know what, Dog, the biggest problem

957
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: with him is man is this one. He's not a

958
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: member of the government anymore, so he's just a criminal

959
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: at this point. So it's open season on anything that

960
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: happened to his punk ass, and I can't wait to

961
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: see it happen. I'll be the front rowing center because

962
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: he's he's a snake dog like and he's probably like

963
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: he probably arelmost like one of my top five most

964
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: scandless people ever in the history of TV. Dog, God,

965
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: damn you over you. That's a lot Dog. He he

966
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: he's just doing the most man because he's a he's

967
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: a bro. When somebody can do the evil he does

968
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: with a straight face. You ever know that his emotions

969
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: don't never change. I don't know if he's top five,

970
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: that's just a lot. I say so Dog top teen

971
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: at least Dog most evil characters are on TV. Dog,

972
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I think Fairest from Boys in the Hood is more

973
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: evil from Boys in the hoods when they kill Ricky

974
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: that was the dude's man. Fairest Ye punk ass fairs.

975
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: He can't fight. So we always trying to find a

976
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: reason to shoot somebody. You would be the one to

977
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: dig back in the movie. You'll never knew that dude

978
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: was naming the shot firs. He was some bullshit because

979
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: he knew Ricky wasn't no nigger like that. Keep coming

980
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: for that bro the first week later on Ye yeah,

981
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: dope boy got cracking on him for me. Fairest old

982
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: punk ass. I didn't really fuck with fares Um. Who

983
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: else is a really evil character? Boy? That's an l

984
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: a name for real. Ferris at ABC at a BC

985
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: from OZ was another just BC prob was one of

986
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: the most trecheress dude. He definitely up there number two somewhere.

987
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: He was just so scammers and he was just look

988
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: at people who killed people that didn't have it coming.

989
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: Why did you kill Ricky? Ricky didn't have to coming.

990
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: That was scampers, man. But you know what, go check

991
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: out snow for all if you haven't a gangster Chronicles.

992
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: Thank you all for coming on the Knife fellas. Thank you.

993
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: We did a review. Of course, jeep Um is betting

994
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: on Louis. He's Louis sympathized sympathizer. It's quite agree with

995
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: his analysis wrongly, gonna knock them down wrong' gonna knock

996
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: her down. Yeah, but we gotta see what you've got

997
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: going on. Man, bullshit. Man, we just know Sailers tomorrow fresh.

998
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: You know when no Seilers is fresh. We've fend to

999
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: wrap it up. Um, really take podcasting into into a

1000
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: lot of hidden k's and taverns, you know, lighted light

1001
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: the way so people things they have never even seen

1002
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: within the conversations, so we're just looking. We had a

1003
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: really dope conversation about urban street colloquialisms that was really

1004
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: dope for me. Um terminologies that that the culture is

1005
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: allowing to be gentrified so people can feel included. Um

1006
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: was amazing. It's me and Peter conversations. I try to

1007
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: make sure we always look for, you know, tunnels and

1008
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: caves that haven't been lit before. I try to light

1009
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: up and leave lights in those caves so people could

1010
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: go in those rooms and have those discussions. So every

1011
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: now and then, you you know, you don't get a

1012
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: lot of credits being the first person to held the light.

1013
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: You know that Christopher Columbus discovered America, you know what

1014
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But he wasn't the first niked Air. So

1015
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: I just made sure I hear the lids. We're putting

1016
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: up the landers for Chris to come over here and

1017
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: get the credit. But you know who really discovered this ship? Brother? Yeah,

1018
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: for real, you're that Peter Ryce. What we do know? Man? Well,

1019
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: Martin Fellers, I appreciate you and make sure man you're

1020
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna follow up my homeboy, Peter boss Man. Wish your

1021
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: Instagram Peter um Mr M I S T. E. R.

1022
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: Underscore Rose Gold. Where did the roles go? Then? You

1023
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: just really buy any Ginger? Yeah? Yeah, I'm rebranded Ginger.

1024
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: Rose Gold is red haired peer, part of the Rose

1025
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Gold community. Absolutely, Pet you women like you too, you

1026
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: know that, not anymore than ya. They like you more.

1027
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. So one or two of them not

1028
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: not not enough, not anymore, man, That's all I can say.

1029
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Not like they used to. All right, for sure, my brother,

1030
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: my brother, y'all make sure you'll check up. No stealings

1031
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: and we got here for real this time