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Speaker 1: week eleven edition of Chargers Weekly. Bolts headed home to

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Speaker 1: see what's on the menu. Powered by Subway, but he

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Speaker 1: charges two and seven. If you look at their record,

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Speaker 1: you would think that they were outplayed in multiple games

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Speaker 1: this year. I feel like Sunday Guests the Dolphins was

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Speaker 1: actually the first game where they were just playing outplayed

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Speaker 1: in this one they weren't in. Yeah, they weren't. And

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Speaker 1: I think I think the one thing that has been

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Speaker 1: even you know, when Joey was in there. They're still

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Speaker 1: struggling just to kind of get you know, for whatever

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Speaker 1: reason that that the sack totals, which then lead to turnovers,

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Speaker 1: and those haven't been there. They're still single digit turnovers again.

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Speaker 1: So um, I think that's kind of what has set

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Speaker 1: far as I can remember, since Anthony showed up with Gus,

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Speaker 1: this defense really operates and max efficiency. And I think

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Speaker 1: it was just up, you know. I think it was

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Speaker 1: glaring because of the trouble that that Brian Flores and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense gave Herbert and you know, this was

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Speaker 1: it was just it was right there in front of you,

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Speaker 1: just has not been the case this year. Um. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, in addition to what you said

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Speaker 1: a let down all season. And um, you know, offensively

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Speaker 1: I think that's when it really crystallizes. Oh, this this

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Speaker 1: why on the three punts that you can grant return

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Speaker 1: I mean, the kid has been lights out. Of course

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Speaker 1: And the Dolphins, they were, they were a couple of

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Speaker 1: mean it's just little things like it's a bad unit.

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Speaker 1: he's first. And I think that's so important and critical

427
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Speaker 1: to move the chains, to get new sets down, to

428
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Speaker 1: extend drives, to not have free and outs. Everybody knows

429
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Speaker 1: where the ball is going, and he still figures out

430
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Speaker 1: a way to get open, especially for a young quarterback.

431
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Speaker 1: So just stoked that he's going to be on the

432
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Speaker 1: team for the next four years and that he's going

433
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Speaker 1: to be able to pair up with Herbert and give

434
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Speaker 1: him a legit one, you know, And and obviously he's

435
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Speaker 1: still trying to create and I think it also speaks

436
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Speaker 1: to how good he is, how quickly the chemistry was created, right,

437
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: because he's still figuring out, like you know, and he's

438
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: and obviously there was some some magic there early on

439
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: with guys, but you can see they're they're still not

440
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: quite on the same page at times. King and nothing. Man,

441
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 1: it's like it's just like they've been paired together forever.

442
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Speaker 1: He's just that good. So that's that's a huge win,

443
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Speaker 1: you know, to have him out there, you know. I

444
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: think I think the offensive line is one where you know,

445
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Speaker 1: and I think that's another good thing, by the way,

446
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Speaker 1: if you want to mention a positive, you know, because

447
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,239
Speaker 1: of sadly, I think you know, Pouncey's injuries are at

448
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Speaker 1: a level where you're probably concerned about his career moving forward. Um,

449
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: I think you've found a long term center in Phoenie.

450
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Speaker 1: I think that's his position, you know, and he's been

451
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Speaker 1: great at that position, you know. I think he really

452
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: struggled the guard last year, but I think he's been

453
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Speaker 1: a solid center. So at least you have that lockdown,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, Bolaga, hope that that back is okay and

455
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Speaker 1: he stays healthy, and then I think you kind of

456
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Speaker 1: got to figure out what those other three pieces look

457
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Speaker 1: like moving forward. And I think one of the other

458
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Speaker 1: highlights is Dan Pheney's style. The mullet must flow. The flow,

459
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Speaker 1: Ye got the flow man something else. It's impressive. I

460
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Speaker 1: miss not seeing it up close on the plane and

461
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Speaker 1: having conversations in the back of the plane with him

462
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Speaker 1: about Orland Park on the south side of Chicago and

463
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Speaker 1: him going to where do you he with Sandberg? That's right,

464
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Speaker 1: he went to Sandberg And my neighborhood was the Shepherd neighborhood.

465
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Speaker 1: So we always have some pretty good talks about the rivalry.

466
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Speaker 1: So I love the flow. But it's stoked to see

467
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Speaker 1: that that worked out. Um, But I do think, you

468
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Speaker 1: know that's that would be my if if you asked

469
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Speaker 1: me about two things that I want to see sorted through,

470
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Speaker 1: it would be offensive line and defensive back. I think

471
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Speaker 1: are the two that I would like to see kind

472
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Speaker 1: of figured out here. Well, we'll see if they can

473
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get a win. Get to

474
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Speaker 1: three and seven, he gets the Jets, Sofi Stadium Sunday. Man.

475
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Speaker 1: Always love doing this with you. I look forward to

476
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Speaker 1: seeing you Sunday, and do me a favor. Just feed

477
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Speaker 1: the dog, huh, make sure the dogs. Make sure that

478
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Speaker 1: dog's taking care of Chris dude. Let me tell you

479
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: working from home. My wife's working from home. I'll know

480
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Speaker 1: it man, I'm working from home. Sully's upset about something

481
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Speaker 1: about to find out what it is. But yeah, he

482
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Speaker 1: does make it up Gary Man in this segment. So

483
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, we know it. We never be all. We

484
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Speaker 1: all deal with it. It's why it's fun when it's

485
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Speaker 1: not me and it's you, because it's it's gonna be

486
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Speaker 1: me as well. Here he goes again. Thanks all right, Budd,

487
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Speaker 1: All right, Bolts fans before we get to our beat

488
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Speaker 1: back Free Week eleven round Table. Daniel Popper, the Athletic

499
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Speaker 1: Fernando Verba Sports Illustrated. Gil Manzano Southern California News Group fellas,

500
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Speaker 1: how are we doing fantastic? Right? Right? We were talking

501
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Speaker 1: about tequila a few seconds ago, so I think we

502
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Speaker 1: are doing very well. People were just people were just

503
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Speaker 1: speculating what Gil had and his word thermis, right, I

504
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Speaker 1: mean he has a stash for it's a why not.

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Speaker 1: Let let's just guess what he has in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we didn't do one. We hadn't do last week. Hey,

507
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, we were looking at this Chargers team. Okay,

508
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: go to Denver home for Vegas coming off that Jags win,

509
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: and then you go to Miami. It was a much

510
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: different conversation than it is now. It Charges two and

511
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: seven playoff hopes kind of faded away the last three weeks. Popper,

512
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Speaker 1: in talking to the coaches in the players this week,

513
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Speaker 1: it seems like they still have a lot to play

514
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Speaker 1: for in terms of pride and just showing people the

515
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Speaker 1: team that they think they are, that they just haven't

516
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Speaker 1: really proven through the first ten weeks or so. Yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: it's sort of gotten to the stage of the season

518
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Speaker 1: where the players are talking about how you know, everyone

519
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Speaker 1: has film even if you're winning or losing, and everyone

520
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: gets paid if you're winning or losing side. The motivation

521
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: now is to not go out there and put bad

522
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Speaker 1: film out there because you're eventually going to be up

523
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Speaker 1: for a contract, and bad film will prevent you from

524
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Speaker 1: getting that type of contract if you want. That's really

525
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Speaker 1: where we're at. They're two and seven. It would take

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Speaker 1: a miracle for this team to make the playoffs the

527
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Speaker 1: way they're playing. I just can't envision them beating anyone

528
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Speaker 1: on the rest of their schedule outside of the Jets

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Speaker 1: and the Broncos, and I saw some really tough teams

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Speaker 1: left on the schedule, and it's just a shame at

531
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Speaker 1: this point. They're just not making plays and they're a

532
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: bad football team. I mean they they're bad in situational football.

533
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Speaker 1: They don't make enough plays, they make too many mistakes.

534
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Speaker 1: And it's no longer a situation where they're they're really

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Speaker 1: close and not getting it done. You know, seven losses

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Speaker 1: in nine games plus you everything you need to know

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Speaker 1: about where this football team is at. Yeah, I'm just

538
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Speaker 1: looking at the playoff standings right now, just just to

539
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Speaker 1: do it right. You have teams like Tennessee, Cleveland, Baltibore

540
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Speaker 1: in Miami, in Vegas and Indy they're all six and three.

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Speaker 1: A couple of those teams aren't even gonna make the playoffs.

542
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Speaker 1: So that just shows you kind of where the Chargers

543
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Speaker 1: are right now. And Gil, I don't know, man, I

544
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Speaker 1: look at I look at some of these games where

545
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Speaker 1: you you're up seventeen against the Bucks and the Saints

546
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Speaker 1: and you're the twenty one point lead against the Broncos.

547
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Speaker 1: This league is so thin when it comes to margin

548
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Speaker 1: of error, and sometimes when you win, it comes in bunches,

549
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Speaker 1: but it's also the same in losing. Yeah, it kind

550
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Speaker 1: it feels like that storyline about the blown leads feels

551
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: like a decade ago, because it's been a couple of

552
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Speaker 1: games that they've had a lead they were kind of

553
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Speaker 1: behind it with the Raiders and the Dolphins game. Well

554
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Speaker 1: it's a little weird, but you're right, Chris, and you know,

555
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of blown opportunities, especially enough for

556
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Speaker 1: the players. They kept talking about the three interceptions they

557
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Speaker 1: could have had against ta on Sunday, But it just

558
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: was like a last season. It seems like playoffs are

559
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Speaker 1: out of the picture right now at two and seven,

560
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Speaker 1: but like Papa was saying, there's a lot to play

561
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Speaker 1: for in terms of pride, but it just feels like

562
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: there's something new every every week with this team that

563
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: just kind of they're shooting themselves in the foot. But

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Speaker 1: last week it just kind of felt like it was

565
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say rock Battle because they were

566
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Speaker 1: pretty close to the end, but that special team's performance

567
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: was pretty rough for the Chargers, and it was probably

568
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Speaker 1: one of the worst performances of the year. Yeah. I

569
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Speaker 1: just talked to Money about the fact that you put

570
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Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback in a hole so early. When we

571
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Speaker 1: talk about the block punt and then the field goal

572
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: attempt to turn into a touchdown, and if it were

573
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Speaker 1: for that quarterback, center Mishap and Nick Vigil picks it

574
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: up goes the other way that game, Fernado, it could

575
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: have easily been twenty one nothing. So you know, you

576
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: get that break and it looks like, okay, the Chargers

577
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: are in this a little bit. But I don't even

578
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Speaker 1: think it was really that close Sunday, which is something

579
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen with this Chargers team. They've been in

580
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: every game. Sunday just wasn't one of them. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: That's what I tell people is that these guys don't

582
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Speaker 1: get blown out. You put them on Sunday night football,

583
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: Minay night football, they'll give you an entertaining game no

584
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: matter what who they're playing. But yeah, no, definitely the score.

585
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: The scoreboard I don't think told the whole story. I

586
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: do feel like they were about that point where the

587
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: air was coming out of the balloon. They were. The

588
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins were driving down to take a twenty one zero lead,

589
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: and that center quarterback exchange really helped them. They weren't

590
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: capitalizing on Sunday as well. They weren't taking advantage of

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Speaker 1: their opportun tunities the offense. I mean, Keenan said it

592
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: on Monday, they were kind of confused in a sense

593
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Speaker 1: the way the Dolphins were showing blitz but then would

594
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: drop back. So yeah, I know, it was just a

595
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: bad Like Gilbert was saying about the special teams, bad performance,

596
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: Popper hit it on the nail on the head. It's

597
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: just a bad football team right now. And there's a

598
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: lot of questions being asked by people outside of the

599
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: building of the team moving forward, and there's not a

600
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: lot of answers being given out. So it's they still

601
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: have stuff to play for. I mean, these guys still

602
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: want jobs, they still want to play in the NFL

603
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: and everything. But it does look like the seasons winding down.

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00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: And like Popper said, it just it. Atlanta is gonna

605
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: be tough. New England's gonna be Like they have a

606
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: lot of games, even this weekend against the Jets, It's

607
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game just because of what Joe

608
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Flacco has been and could still be. And this these

609
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: guys just make every team harder on themselves, kind of

610
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: like when I was in high school. I used to

611
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: make every every class was a little bit harder just

612
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: because I didn't focus. So yeah, I think there's some

613
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: cemilarities between the Chargers and me and high school, but

614
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: the end result is all that matters. Hey, listen, we're

615
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Speaker 1: a week eleven when we're comparing the Charges to Fernando

616
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Speaker 1: and high school. At this point, literally do it over here, Hey, guys.

617
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Speaker 1: I also I oppose this to Buddy. I'm really curious

618
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: to get your answers on this too. As we look

619
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Speaker 1: at these last seven games, which player or players do

620
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: you want to see more of in terms of development?

621
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Speaker 1: In an effort to see Okay, is this is this

622
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: player gonna be a long term player on the Charges

623
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and moving forward it could be

624
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Speaker 1: a rookie, could be a guy who's been here for

625
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: two or three years. I know you may need a

626
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: second to think about it, but but Papa, what do

627
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: you think? Well? So, I think it's a good question.

628
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: But for me, it's not as much about people that

629
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: I want to see play more. It's guys that are

630
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: already playing that I need to see play better to

631
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: know that they are part of this core moving forward.

632
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: So that starts with the sear adderly for me, this

633
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: guy was a second round pick and he does. He

634
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: looks lost out there, frankly, and it's week after week

635
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: of him making mistakes in coverage, pre snap read type stuff,

636
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: mental mistakes, missing tackles, poor angles. He has not played

637
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: well in pretty much any game this season, and this

638
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: was a real opportunity for him to go out there

639
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: and prove that he could be a part of this

640
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: core moving forward. Where he fits in this defense now,

641
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't really know, because once stir Win's healthy, you're

642
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: going to move rash On back to free safety, and

643
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: can this sire Addie to be trusted in a dime package.

644
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: Can you be trusted as a nickel corner. It's not

645
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: exactly clear, but when you spend a second round pick

646
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: on a player, you expect him to be able to perform.

647
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Even though he missed all last year with an answering injury,

648
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: you expect him to be able to perform better than this.

649
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: And the other guy I would throw into there is

650
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray. You know you moved back into the first

651
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: round to draft this linebacker to be your Mike of

652
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: the future, your middle linebacker or leader of this team,

653
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen enough consistency from him either. Now,

654
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: what you can say is that none of these players

655
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: got a full off season, and obviously Kenneth Murray, particularly

656
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: as a rookie, would have benefited greatly from that. The

657
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: year Adderley is effectively a rookie and would have benefited

658
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: greatly from that. So it's hard to knock them too

659
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: much for not seeing the development that you were expecting.

660
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: But both those guys are should be big parts of

661
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: the team's core moving forward, and it's not clear if

662
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: they are. On the offensive side. I'll throw Trey Pipkins

663
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: out there. I'm not sure how much he's going to

664
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: get into action just because Brian Bulaga is healthier now.

665
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: But you've seen a little bit of him, but he

666
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: needs to get as much playing time as physically possible

667
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: to see if he can actually be a starting tackle

668
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: in this league moving forward. And I think the jury

669
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: is still out in that department too, And you can

670
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: even throw San Tavy in there as well. Yeah, three

671
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: four good ones there, Gil, What about you? Yeah, you

672
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: can pretty much say the last two draft classes of

673
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty and twenty, there's a lot of guys

674
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: are not doing too well right now outside of Drew Tranquoin,

675
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. You know, there's a lot of a lot

676
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: of mixed reviews on the other guys. But I'll narrow

677
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: it downs, like I could get leaf for now, the

678
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: couple of guys to from them, So I'll go with

679
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly. You know, this guy was very productive in

680
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: training camp the first two weeks of the year, and

681
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: he's kind of just fell off, and opportunities are right

682
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: there for Joshua Kelly. No, Justin Jackson, no, Austin Eckler.

683
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: He's getting the touches, he's not getting the yards. Ber

684
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Kerry goal line was his job. He didn't really do

685
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: that short yard situation also his job. He's not getting

686
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: it done. He's even opportunities for Tremaine Pope and Kevin Balage.

687
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: So I think for him, you want to be part

688
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: of the future. He has seven games to do something

689
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: about it. You gotta find that. You gotta find that

690
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: definitive running back. To compliment Austin Ekeler, I believe in

691
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I think we're still waiting to see

692
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: if that players on this roster where you have to

693
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: get one in twenty twenty one, Fernanda, what about you?

694
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know if Pop took all of them,

695
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: I got three more I can give you. I know,

696
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna hit one of them. I

697
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get one of them. Who's Jerry Tillery.

698
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we still haven't found out if he's Jerry

699
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: tillor he looks like he's better at the ensi end

700
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: than he is at defensive tackle. He's done like last

701
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: week he had a chance to sack two a Tonga

702
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: blo and just didn't get it done. But he's looked

703
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: a lot like when Justin Jones is in there when

704
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: the defensive line is healthy and they give him minimal reps,

705
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: he shines. When Justin Jones went out, he just he

706
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: we didn't know where he was. You didn't really see

707
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: many flashes of him, So we need to see who

708
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Tilly really is. The coaches all say that he

709
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: needed this whole offseason, that he did really well, that

710
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: he got back last year. I remember he was dealing

711
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: when he came in with a laboram issue. I think

712
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: so this year he's we haven't really We've seen flashes

713
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: of him, but it's been more at defensive end and

714
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: on minimal snaps. So I really think that we need

715
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: to see He was a first round draft pick for

716
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: a reason. Tom Telesco believed that he was a first rounder,

717
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: that he had the talent, but we just haven't seen

718
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: it yet. So I feel like he's one of those

719
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: guys that we need to see what he really is

720
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: because if not, I mean the the team, the team

721
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: would uh. We've seen him till us go in the past.

722
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: He's willing to move on and get rid of those

723
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: guys and uh and take a risk on somebody else.

724
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: So we definitely need to see who Jerry Tillery is

725
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: um hopefully within the next year, just because, like I said,

726
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: he's a first rounder and you just haven't seen much

727
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: from him. Okay, go for it. I want to see

728
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take the one. I had to go

729
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: for it. Oh oh no, you go ahead. No. I

730
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: was just gonna ask you guys, what you think about

731
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: just getting more snaps for your chin and the woe sue,

732
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: because that's a guy and I realized once Melvin and

733
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Joey are healthy together, of course there's not many snaps

734
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: to go around, but if there's a way to see

735
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: more of him, I think he only has the snaps

736
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: this year three and a half sacks. He I thought

737
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: he played okay in uh in Melvin Ingram's absence. It's

738
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: just another guy who's in his third year that you

739
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: want to see if he can consistently rush the pastor

740
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah. His his his best position is

741
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: at leo, which is where Melvin Ingram plays their weak

742
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: side defensive end, and so he's only going to get

743
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: snaps effectively when Melvin Ingram isn't on the field. So

744
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: when Melvin Ingram is healthy, he's going to get those snaps. Now,

745
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: when Melvin Ingram comes is not healthy and out of

746
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: the lineup, then nas who can come in and get snaps.

747
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: The issue is you can try and bring in this

748
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: speed package on third downs where you have mel and

749
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: Chenna and Joey rushing the passer. The issue with that is,

750
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: and you saw it in this game. I mean it

751
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: wasn't Joey, it was Jerry Tillery at defensive end on

752
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: the other side. But you know, that's a really easy

753
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: front to run against because you've got Melbourne. Ingram is

754
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: obviously a really good run defender, but he's not like

755
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: a he's not like a stout player. He's not like

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: a you know, like a Linval Joseph or a defensive

757
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: tackle type guy. And then you have your Channasu in there,

758
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: who could be the guy roaming around. So you effectively

759
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: have a guy playing defensive tackle who's undersized. And you

760
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: saw it in this in this game against the Dolphins,

761
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: they ran for a first down on thirty six in

762
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: the crucial situation when they had that speed package out there.

763
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: So it's just tough to find him more snaps right now.

764
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: But that's the reason why I think that they'll move

765
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: on for mel in the off season. Um, he's gonna

766
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a market. He's a he's an elite

767
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: edge rusher. And then those guys get paid in this league.

768
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: And so you look at the cap is lowered down

769
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: to one seventy five, that's the floor. You have an option.

770
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Shannon Nuosu is an ascending player and much cheaper. Um

771
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: makes more sense for the cap, could make more sense

772
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: for the for the roster in general, even though Melvin

773
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: Ingram is still really good player. Who's the other on? Ye? Sorry, Chris,

774
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my one question about that is why

775
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: not experiment with the Channer Nausu and Melvin Ingram on

776
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: the field at the same time. I know they're kind

777
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: of similar in stature, in position, but when I try

778
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: it out, I want to see you Channing who more

779
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: out there? And Melvin Ingram maybe he could, maybe he

780
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: could provide them more of a spark. But it seemed

781
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: like they're very they're very committed to the big end,

782
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of big size with Rochelle and Hillary, but getting

783
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: getting a whoso out there that guys would just be

784
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: a good week to do it. Kill Flacco is gonna

785
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: sit in a pocket. You want to get Flackle office

786
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: spots and and and affect him. They did have to

787
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: find a way to to get after the quarterback this year. Yeah,

788
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: and but this could be the perfect week for the

789
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: defensive line to kind of get it back together. They're

790
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: gonna have everybody healthy, hopefully, Joy Boss ready to go.

791
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: It's been a full participant since being clear from the concussion.

792
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: But you get that second wave again when the Woosu

793
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: and Hillary and Damon Square and these when they have

794
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: those eight guys healthy, they're pretty legit and pretty stacked

795
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: up top. But you know, when guys get hurt, I

796
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: want to see guys step up. But like Hillary, he's

797
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: good when he's a backup as a start, he hasn't

798
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: done too much. I the Woosuo has to have a

799
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: specific injury to kind of get on the field. So

800
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: that kind of just makes me kind of question, you know,

801
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: why not just try out and be more you know,

802
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: experiment out there and you're two and seven, why not

803
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: try more more rotations, more combination to see how it

804
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: works out. But you're right, Churse, I think this could

805
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: be the perfect week for that that the line can

806
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: kind of break out. But I'm just kind of confused

807
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: that why why aren't you trying out, you know, more

808
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: combinations with the D line we're just worry about they're

809
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: already they're already a bad run defense, Like they're a

810
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: lying the eighth most yards per carry on any team

811
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: in the league. And that's without doing the type of

812
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: rotations you're talking about. So you're bringing two undersized defensive ends.

813
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: What what do you You're basically asking for another team

814
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: to run all over you. And like you make a

815
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: good point though, like you don't know if it'll work

816
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: until you try it, But that would be the logic

817
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: behind not going in that direction. Like they're already struggling

818
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: with Lindvall, Joseph and Justin Jones and Jerry Tillery on

819
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: the line, what happens when you go even smaller? I

820
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: think that's probably the approach to the coaching staff. I

821
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: feel like this is a question we've been asking those

822
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: since Uchenna got drive. It's like, why isn't he playing more?

823
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Why isn't he doing this? Why isn't he doing that?

824
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: Because every time he's in there, like you guys have mentioned,

825
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: he is a spark. He ends up getting the sack.

826
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: He got a big sack on Breeze, I remember in

827
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: week five, So I mean he kind of reminds me

828
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: a little bit of Sean Phillips when he first was

829
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: on the Like when he first got there, it was

830
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Sean Merriman. Sean Merriman Schraun and they're like, oh wait,

831
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: there's another Sean on the other side, and it was

832
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Sean Phillips. Well that's kind of like what where. He

833
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Sean Phillips a little bit

834
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: just because of the way he Obviously, Joey Melvin take presidents,

835
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: but Uchenna is still good. He still has that I

836
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: think three and a half sacks this season, and that's

837
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: only second to Joey Bosa. So I mean, for some reason,

838
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram just hasn't been able to get to the

839
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, doesn't have a sack, So I mean,

840
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: I maybe maybe they need to try the same tactic

841
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: with Melvin Ingram that they've been doing with Jerry, giving

842
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: him more limited snaps, letting, doing more of a rotation

843
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: with with Uchenna and keeping him fresh a little bit

844
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: so that he can go up to and maybe not

845
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: run out of I'm not saying that they're running out

846
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: of juice, but I'm just saying keeping these guys fresh.

847
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: That's kind of like what they were doing in twenty

848
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: eighteen and last season is trying to keep these guys fresh,

849
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: not play a lot of snaps. But this year, it

850
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: seems like because of so many injuries, they've they've kind

851
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: of limited that back a little bit and they've had

852
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: guys play longer periods of time during the game because

853
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: of injuries and all that taking place. But Uchenna is

854
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: one of those guys that I've been that we've all

855
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: clamored for since his rookie year, is that Hey, get

856
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: this guy in the field. Every time he's on there,

857
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: he does something big. Yeah, I bring him up just

858
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: because he's one of these young pieces that we're gonna

859
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: see in twenty twenty one. Right, You're gonna see tranquillback

860
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: on the field, Durwin Um, and some of these other

861
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: guys that that they've drafted and developed. I mean, Jerry

862
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Tiller is another one where you do want to see

863
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: him continually improved this year, just so you know in

864
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: his third year he's ready to go and he could

865
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: be a reliable starter. But pop for you got one

866
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: more guy, Joe Reid? Can we get some Joe read please?

867
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, we can call Joe. Do you want

868
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: to sta No, Joe Reid, rookie out of Virginia, fifth

869
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: round pick. No. He listen when they they have these

870
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: very limited packages for him where they're running these these

871
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: these jets sweep ep motions, trying to basically use him

872
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: in a deb Debot Samuel type of role. How they

873
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: use him, how they use Deebo Samuel Holton in San Francisco.

874
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: But he said he's getting a snap here, a play here,

875
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: like let's just put the put the ball in the

876
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: guy's hands. I mean he is a playmaker, makes guy's

877
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: missed and he gets positive yards in the ball and

878
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: his when the ball is in his hand more times

879
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: than none. That's a good question. I don't think he

880
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: has a catch unless unless they count one of those

881
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: shovels that they did to him as a as a

882
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: reception um. But get him in space like like gill

883
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: Gill said the perfect thing earlier. When when it comes

884
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: to decision making over the over these finals, seven games, right,

885
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: what do you have to lose you're two and seven,

886
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: So going out there and running the ball seventy percent

887
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: of the time on first and second down that makes

888
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: no sense. Go out there and be aggressive, go for

889
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: it on fourth downs, and and try and play to

890
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: win games. And that includes putting the ball in the

891
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: hands of the guys that have been most successful this season.

892
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: And Joe Reid has been a fishing player with the

893
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. So so what do you have

894
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: to lose, Say he has a negative game and loses

895
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: some yards, So what you can't get me worse than

896
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: you are right now. I like Joe Reid a lot.

897
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: Is a kid. I mean we saw, I mean week one,

898
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: that forty six yard kick return really helped them win

899
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: the game. They scored a touchdown. I think on that

900
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: drive a vote if I'm not mistaken. So Joe read

901
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: and you know, I know kJ Hill mum off that

902
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: punt and had had a lapse last week too, But

903
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: he has like a thirty yard punt return to this year.

904
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I don't know if you can really integrate

905
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: kJ Hill in the offense very consistently. Now when you

906
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: have a guy like Keenan Allen who's the possession guy.

907
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: You got the speed guy, Guyton, you got a hunter

908
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: on the field, you got Mike Williams, t Billy every

909
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: now and again, and then Joe Reid. I mean, Justin

910
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: has done a great job as spread in the ball around.

911
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: But you can't get everybody involved, you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely,

912
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: I mean they could, like they have some packages where

913
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: they move Keenan outside and then they can play kJ

914
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: in the slot. That's when he's in the game. That's

915
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: what they do. But let's be frank, he hasn't really

916
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: earned offensive reps this season. I mean, when he's been

917
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: in there, he's dropped balls and hasn't He's been fine

918
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: as a punt return besides that that muff punt, but

919
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: as a receiver, he hasn't really made the plays that

920
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: have come that have come away. And there's other guys

921
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: that are making plays. I mean, Jalen guy, he's making plays.

922
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: Tyran Johnson's making plays, and so those guys are gonna

923
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: get the reps as that third wide receiver over kJ LL.

924
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Right now, all right, let's flip it to the Jets.

925
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: A key to the game and a player to watch

926
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: for Sunday Jests come to town. They're one nine. I

927
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: look at two weeks ago though they almost beat the Patriots.

928
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims is a really good player, Jameson Crowder, Bishop Perryman.

929
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: So their wide receiving corps couple with Flacco, you never know.

930
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Their defense is is very young and beat up right now.

931
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: It could be a good opportunity for Justin. He'd get

932
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: back on track after his worst game as a pro,

933
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: in which he had three total touchdowns. But we'll start

934
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: with you, man. You know I'll take that yours that

935
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is your guy, because I'll take them Chris

936
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: go for it for the first time. Justin Herbert a rookie.

937
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: A week ago, he was pretty confused. I don't know

938
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: if he admitted it, but Kenny Allen said they were

939
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: pretty confused with the luks and disguises of the blitz packages.

940
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: And then got into his head a lot that the

941
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: reputation that the Miami Dolphins have there they're blitz heavy team,

942
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: and they didn't really come out them too much. But

943
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: he got into his head. He had rush throws that

944
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: cost the interception in the fourth quarters. So we forget

945
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert is a rookie because he's been playing

946
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: so well, so I want to see him kind of

947
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, get right, get back on track, make it

948
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: a one week kind of thing. Spread the ball around again.

949
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Do it against a pretty bad Jets team which is

950
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: own nine. So for Justin Herbert, you know, hopefully he

951
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: takes my challenge. I know he has a new haircut

952
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: as well, a lot of pressure on that haircut too,

953
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: because he doesn't play as well with the buzz cut,

954
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna blame it on the haircut. So a lot

955
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: of pressure on the rookie right now. Bro, He's Anakin Skywalker,

956
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: He's the chosen one. Come on, bro, respect on name

957
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: and talked about NFL storyline of the week, Justin Herbert's hair.

958
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: It's amazing Popper got that role. Yeah, oh yeah, you

959
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: tweet blew up. Just giving the people what they want,

960
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give you mine. Joey Bosa healthy, feeling

961
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: as healthy as he has all season. Coming off this concussion.

962
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: He's got some extra time to rest his body, obviously.

963
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, the primary concern is making sure his mind

964
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: is right and his brain is right, and it seems

965
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: like he's gotten to that point. But this is gonna

966
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: be a good matchup for him. I mean, I don't

967
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: know how much he's gonna end up lining up over

968
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: over McKay beckton, Um, but he at that left tackle spot. Um.

969
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: But he when he's right, he's a dominant, dominant player.

970
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: And he's obviously, based on his comments today, fired up

971
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: to get back out there. So we could be looking

972
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: at a huge Joey boast of game. You know, two

973
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: three sacks, some big run stops, tackle for losses, maybe

974
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: a strip sack in there. I think he's he's due,

975
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: and I think he's rare and to go. So he's

976
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: my guy. The game, the game, Pop, The key to

977
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: the game is makes some plays on defense, like for once,

978
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: go out there and make some plays instead of dropping

979
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: interceptions and and and and allowing twenty yard rushes all

980
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: over the place. Like this Jets team is talent efficient.

981
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: Go out there and play a dominant sixteen minutes of

982
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: football defense and put it together, make plays and and

983
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: put up put sixteen minutes together a full game, no lapses.

984
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: That's bo Fernando. Hey, I fired up Pop is who

985
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: I love. That's why I said next to you on

986
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: game day, So I love it. I love fired up

987
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: in seven. This is what you get. I'm tired of

988
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: watching bad football continues. Key to the game, just go

989
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: out there and play loose. Don't don't feel that whole pressure. Like,

990
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: go out there and just play football, like Pop said earlier,

991
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Joe Reid. Throw them in there, let them get some

992
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: reps on offense. Uh just my my, that's my key.

993
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: Just go out there and play football. Don't feel all

994
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: the pressure of outside the building. Just feel uh you

995
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: guys having to go up against the New York Jets

996
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: know that they're they're obviously a bad football team. But it's,

997
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: like Justin Herbert said, their record is not a reflective

998
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: of who they are. They know it's gonna be tough.

999
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: It's a Greg Greg Williams run defense, so you know

1000
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be aggressive. I want to have a player

1001
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: to watch, but I think it's the secondary as a whole.

1002
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: I think that the secondary has not so the reason

1003
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: this year, and um, I feel like they need to

1004
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: bounce back game. That the Jets have a dangerous receiving corps.

1005
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: I know that they haven't. Their record doesn't reflect that,

1006
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: but hey, they're their Their receivers could make it a

1007
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: long day and Obviously, those guys go deep. Casey has

1008
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: kind of gotten beat deep sometimes this season, a couple

1009
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: of times this season, so the secondary is gonna have

1010
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: to have a very good game at the Charger are

1011
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: to win this game on Sunday. My player to watch

1012
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: is Kaitlin Belage. It's revenge game times two. Man, he

1013
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: ran inspired against the Dolphins. I'm not saying he's gonna

1014
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: get the amount of Carrie See guy last week, but

1015
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: he'll be officient with his touches because I think we

1016
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: all want to see Justin Herbert throw the ball down

1017
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: the field. But Blage, listen to this man, You go Dolphins.

1018
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: You play three games for the Jets earlier this year.

1019
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna want to show out against Adam

1020
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: Gayson company. I think Belage is my guy to watch.

1021
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: And then just Pop you said it. Make a playoff

1022
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: defense sac Flacco five times? How about that? Get Flacco

1023
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: on the ground, make him uncomfortable, and hopefully that leads

1024
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: to some incompletions, some potential interceptions. The defense is going

1025
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: to have to score or do something to get justin

1026
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: the lead and make him comfortable. Don't let him play

1027
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: from behind. Hold on the football yeah, agreed. All right, guys,

1028
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: that was fun. Listen, it's two and seven. We still

1029
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: make the best of it. We'll see it so far

1030
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: Stadium Chargers Jets always appreciate you guys hanging around for

1031
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: these roundtables are fun anytime. All right, guys, that's gonna

1032
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: do it for us. A big thanks to Daniel Popper,

1033
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Gilbert Manzano, Fernando Ramirez, and Matt money Smith for joining me,

1034
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: and of course thanks to you all for listening. Be

1035
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: sure to download and subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network

1036
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Have a great weekend and

1037
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: until next time, I'm Chris Hayry.