1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, your one 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: stop shop for sanity. As the insane, the irrational, the 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: authoritarian are swarming all around us all the time. You 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: just come here and hang with me, Hang with Clay. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna make it all makes sense. The economic situation 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. It's gonna be getting rough, 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: got some rough stuff ahead of us. Not good, but Biden, yes, 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: not good, and Biden is angry at you for thinking 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: it's not awesome. This is what we've gone to now. 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Biden's going full get off my law on you because 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: the economy's great, not so much. He was in Philly 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: today speaking in an AFLCIO convention Philly. By the way, 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: another story going on in Philadelphia we can touch on 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: later and we will, is that there's an effort of 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: food to remove Larry Krasner, now the disc attorney there. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: These guys are going to get removed one after another. 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: They need to all fall like dominoes. And honestly this 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: they're going to replace them with Democrats. They're not going 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: to replace them with Republicans, but at least replace them 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: with Democrats who are not completely out of their minds 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: and are trying to legalize crime, which is effectively what 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: progressive prosecutors have done. We'll talk about that in a 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, the big thing today is just 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: you know, yesterday, when we were on air with you, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: talking to you all across the country, there was I 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: think the recognition that this economy, the inflation number, everything 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: that we've seen hasn't even hit its most painful economically speaking, 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: it's most painful part that there's more coming, and that 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: the Biden administration has no answers, no way of turning 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: this stuff around. Obviously, in fact, they deny that they 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: got us into the mess in the first place. The 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: FED is expected to raise rates tomorrow by seventy five 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: basis points. Maybe it might be point it might be 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: fifty basis points. It's either point seventy five or point five, depending, 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: but I think it'll be a seventy five basis point 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: rate increase. That's the biggest rate increase we will have 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: seen out of the FED since I think nineteen ninety four. 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Certainly almost where growing on basically thirty years. And that's 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: because they realize inflation is not under control, it's likely 42 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: to get worse. And the price index for producers, this 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: is something else that everyone needs to be very aware of. 44 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Wholesale prices rose, producer prices have risen considerably, which means 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: that there's going to be more price increases for consumers. 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: You on the way, think gas, milk, All that's expensive. 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Now just wait, it's gonna get worse. Meanwhile, Joe Biden 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: wants you to know it's great doing a bang up job. 49 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: You know how to talk about Biden months to spend 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: more on schools and all this. Guess what He's going 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: to create a deficit, Ladies and gentlemen this year. By 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: the end of the fiscal year, we will have cut 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: the federal deficit by another one point six trillion dollars 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: in one year. One year. So when they come to 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: you and talk about big spenders, let them know almost 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: two trillion dollars we're not always do. I don't want 57 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: to hear anymore of the lives about reckless spending. We're 58 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: changing people's lives and because of the facts, this year 59 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: we're delivering the biggest dropping deficit in the history of 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: United States of America. You can't break. I mean, first 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: of all, it's crazy, Clay. I mean, listening to that 62 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: makes my brain hurt because it's so dumb. The reason 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: why the spending is dropping is because we spent one 64 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: point nine trillion dollars that was unnecessary on COVID relief 65 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: as soon as he got into office. And then we 66 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: also spent, by the way, with only Democrat support so 67 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: far as I remember, and then I think we made 68 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a bad decision, and Buck you and I said that 69 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: we didn't think it was a very good decision when 70 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: we spent an additional whatever it was, one point two 71 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: trillion dollars on infrastructure. The reason why the amount that 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: the federal government is spending is declining is because Joe 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: Biden's build Back Better five trillion dollars that he wanted 74 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: to spend was rejected by all Republicans, as well as 75 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion and Kirsten Cinema. So he's bragging now about 76 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: the fact that his policies all failed to such an 77 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: extent that finally people in the United States government Republicans said, 78 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: you can't stop spending money like a drunken sailor. And 79 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: that's why the deficit has come down, because we spent 80 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: so outrageously in his first year in office. There's dishonesty 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: in every major talking point that this White House is 82 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: using right now because they're desperate. There's dishonesty in the 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: we've created eight million jobs. Comparing where we are economically 84 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: to where we were in the absolute depths of the 85 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: COVID lockdown is a bsmetric, and everybody knows it. He 86 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: didn't create eight million jobs. The government just ceased enforcing 87 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: the cessation of millions of jobs. And beyond that, Clay 88 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: to your point about the about the spending, um, we 89 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: might have some sailors listing, So I don't want to 90 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: say drunken sailors because you know why the sailors drive away. 91 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm not even blaming a sailor. I've got some marine 92 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: buddies they could kick back. Is a big deal. I mean, look, 93 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: if I'd been out to sea for all the time 94 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: and I couldn't spend my money otherwise, I wouldn't blame 95 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: a drunken sailor for spending it. Like, imagin what the 96 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: president doing it. Imagine if you had a friend who 97 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: was running into debt every month, ten thousand dollars on 98 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: their credit card. I'm running up a ten thousand dollars 99 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: balance month after month, month after month. And then they 100 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: come to you and they say, what are you talking about. 101 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm not overspending. This month, only went five thousand dollars 102 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: over And so you say, well, yeah, buddy, but you 103 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: know you're one hundred thousand dollars in debt. That's not 104 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: exactly something to celebrate. That is what Joe Biden is doing. 105 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: He's the guy who's saying, well, I only overspent by, 106 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, half of what I did last month or 107 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: last year, and acting like he's some kind of hero. 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: That's actually such a great analogy because if you had 109 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: a friend who was spending money like that, and then 110 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: that friend bragged, hey, I've cut my spending more than 111 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: you have, You're like, yeah, but I've been in my 112 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: budget the whole time. That's not really something to brag about. 113 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: This is what Biden is trying to do. It's exactly 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: what explaining. He's just trying to create these frameworks where 115 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: it's not a disaster. And if you want to really 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: get a sense as to how delusional. It can get 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: this White House. I'm just gonna say this, They're delusional. 118 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is now a widespread because it's just 119 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: like mask policy Clay, which I love to double down 120 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: on now because you know, people are still I'm not 121 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: done with them yet. The people that are still in 122 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: double masking, they'd rather continue to live in the fantasy 123 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: than except that they were fooled, that they weren't as wise, 124 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: they weren't as intelligent as they thought they were. And 125 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: that's true. I think of a lot of Democrat Biden voters, 126 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: it is obvious this guy is a joke and a disaster. 127 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: We all see it. Everyone listening to this knows, even 128 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats listening to us now. And yet the White 129 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: House has to come up with something. So what do 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: they do? Live in an alternate universe. Here is the 131 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: new White House Press Secretary, Karine Jean Pierre, who is 132 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: telling everybody, no, you don't understand. We've got inflation right 133 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: where we want it. First of all, the American Rescue 134 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Plan met the moment, and it has put us in 135 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a place where the American people feel can actually we 136 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: can take on inflation. What I mean by that is 137 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: we've we've seen growth, right, as I mentioned, more than 138 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: eight million jobs, and now we're transitioning into a steady, 139 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: a stable growth. The President actually wrote an op ed 140 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: to discuss that himself, lay out his plan on how 141 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: we're going to bring down inflation, and so that's really important. 142 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: In order to take this on, we've got to have 143 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: some being a good historic economic place, which is where 144 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: we are right now, a good historic We're in a 145 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: good historic economic place where our choices are rapidly rising 146 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: inflation or full on recession. Clay, that's where we are. 147 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: Is she the dumbest White House spokesperson that has ever 148 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: existed in the history of the country, Because look, I 149 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: know we went after a little red lyinghood the former 150 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: spokesperson who's now moved on to MSNBC, And I know 151 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: there have been dumb White House spokespersons before, right, I'm 152 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: not pretending that this is like uniquely dumb, but it 153 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: feels to me like, again, I've made this argument before. 154 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: But it's a great book. Team of Rivals, Doris Karrent's 155 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: good one about Abraham Lincoln in the cabinet he put 156 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: together in eighteen sixty. Joe Biden is the worst president 157 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: in any of our lives, and probably the dumbest president 158 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: in any of our lives, and maybe the worst communicator 159 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: in any of our lives. Like every box that you 160 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: can check for worst, Joe Biden has done it, and 161 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: he's managed somehow to pick the worst and dumbest people 162 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: to represent him in his administration. We have a team 163 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: of incompetence the likes of which our nation has ever 164 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: seen before. I mean, you just heard her try to 165 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: answer a question, and we got another cut that I'm 166 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna play for you in the next segment where she 167 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: was asked about the baby formula shortage. Buck, have you 168 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: heard this yet? Oh? Yes, I mean, and these are 169 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: not questions that are unexpected, right, Like, It's not like 170 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: she's going in there and suddenly somebody saying, hey, could 171 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: you break the Prime Minister of Hungary is on the 172 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: spot or something right, or even like, hey tell me 173 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: the five worst trades in the history of sports in 174 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: your life? You know, like you're scrambling. You have no 175 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: real answer for it, because that's not her job. She's 176 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: being asked every day about the issues that every single 177 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: one of our listeners is considering that all of you 178 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: out there are prepared to have an opinion on and 179 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: she can't answer him. Buck. I mean, it's an embarrassment. 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: And increasingly it feels and I've been making this argument 181 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: for a while now, but every day gets more valid. 182 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: It feels like the Biden administration is tanking for the 183 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: overall number one pick in a sports context where the 184 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: incompetence is the goal. On some level, I've never seen 185 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: anything like it where they're so bad. I think we 186 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: have to leave open the possibility that there is no strategy. 187 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: They're actually just this dumb and incompetence. I think that 188 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: that has to I don't believe that there's some look 189 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: at what they're doing with this the January sixth and 190 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: all these things that we knew were coming. None of 191 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: this stuff is is gonna make any any difference. And 192 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: what they're really seeing right now is there decision making. 193 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you can talk about different 194 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, you can talk about how oh, in the 195 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: housing meltdown, for example, Bush got realistically, honestly and the 196 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Republicans got far more blame for the housing meltdown than 197 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: they deserved because anybody who understood the policies of Fannie 198 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: Mae and Freddie Mack, and it stretches all the way 199 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: back to you know, redlining and getting rid of redlining, 200 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and there are just decades of housing policy that had 201 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: changed and had become very much more social justice oriented. 202 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: And then it was of course commoditized by Wall Street 203 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: and they got greedy and everything else. But Clay that 204 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: was decades in the making. The two thousand and eight meltdown. 205 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: You look at Joe Biden comes into office, You look 206 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: at the two trillion in spending boom, inflation takes off. 207 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me that's a coincidence. People, you look 208 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: at Democrats putting their progressive prosecutors in the major cities 209 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: all across America, and the thirty percent increase in homicides 210 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: nationwide in twenty twenty, You're gonna tell me that's a coincidence. 211 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: This is cause and effect, which is why it's so 212 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: damaging in Democrats. People know that they're being lied to. 213 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt. And what we got 214 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: used to was there was consequence free behavior, and that 215 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: was the whole idea. I don't think we can underrate 216 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: modern monetary theory, this idea, which was embraced by Joe 217 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Biden in the early days of his administration that you 218 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: could just spend as much money as you possibly wanted 219 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: and there would be no economic impact. Well, the economic 220 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: impact is real, and every single one of you are 221 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: feeling it all day long. 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We also certainly appreciate 255 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: all of our guests, including doctor Martin McCarry, who was 256 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: on the phone with us right now. Doc I appreciate 257 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: you coming on. We had dinner on Friday. I don't 258 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: know if you're still in Nashville or not, but I've 259 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: talked about at dinner. I'll say the same thing on 260 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the radio. You have been one of the foremost advocates 261 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: for truth in all of this COVID mess of anyone 262 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: out there, and the work that you've done is really important. 263 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: And I kind of teased this, but you and a 264 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of other people who have been similarly of the 265 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: opinion that from a medical perspective and a scientific perspective, 266 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: our response to COVID in terms of lockdown, school shutdowns, 267 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: all of that made very little sense. You guys are 268 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: working on a big report to analyze this and help 269 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: to contextualize the errors in public policy that we made 270 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: during the COVID era. Can you explain exactly what's going 271 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: on there, what you're working through, and what you hope 272 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: to be able to produce. Sure? Absolutely, and thanks for 273 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: having me. It was good to see you last week, 274 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: and congrats to you and Buck on one year. Awesome show. 275 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to it. So our take on COVID, 276 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: myself and several other experts around the country is that 277 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: the American people just want honesty. Just shoot it to 278 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: them straight. You don't have to be parental and say 279 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: don't ask questions. We didn't go through our normal process 280 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: at the FDA ignore these complications, and so people just 281 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: want it honest. So we are getting together a document 282 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: several scientists from around the country that will be a 283 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: sort of nine to eleven commission style assessment report on 284 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic response. It's not personal and it's not political. 285 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: It's scientifically objective. So Ja Bardachari of Martin Coldworth and 286 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: several people who have been following COVID closely with an independent, 287 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: scientifically objective mind, we got together and we're putting together 288 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: this document. Doctor McCarry, it's buck. I see you've got 289 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: a piece up at Newsweek Why America. And by the way, 290 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: when your document comes out, we're hoping to be one 291 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: of the places that is blasting it out as far 292 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: and wide as possible. So we'll be talking to you 293 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: more about that, because this is what needs to happen. 294 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: There needs to be effectively an after action report that 295 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: looks at all that went wrong. Because I think now 296 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: doctor McCarry, people understand that lockdowns had not just a 297 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: cost in learning loss, in psychological damage and which was enormous, 298 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: but also enormous economic costs which people are just now 299 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: really starting to see and feel. But you wrote a 300 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: piece of Newsweek people don't trust the CDC, and you 301 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: want on to talk about the process recently of CDC 302 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: recommending COVID nineteen booster shots for five to eleven year olds. 303 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Can you just tell everybody what you laid out of 304 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: this Newsweek piece, because I'm used to them doing just 305 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: on his stuff, but even this time, I'm like, this 306 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: is jaw dropping. Well, Buck, they hit rock bottom with 307 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: the booster recommendation at the CDC in kids five through eleven. 308 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: If you look at what they actually said, and in 309 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: that Newsweek article, I pulled the exact quotes from the meeting. 310 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: The doctors were talking like it was a group of 311 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: marketing executives that Levi's trying to sell genes to more people. 312 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: They talked about the importance of having a consistent recommendation 313 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: with older kids. They talked about the importance of a 314 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: simple message. They talked about the importance of not confusing 315 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: the public. They actually had almost no data. They had 316 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty kids of data, and beyond that, 317 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: there was no political data within those kids. They just 318 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: saw an antibody bump, and so they recommended boldly boosters 319 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: for twenty four million American children with just data on 320 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty kids. Now that's the sort of 321 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: stuck people have no tolerance for. And I found one 322 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: doctor even set at the meeting, we have to strongly 323 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: recommend this in order to get more people vaccinated, in 324 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: order to get the data so we can understand where 325 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: we are going. So look, I put all those quotes 326 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: from the meeting directly in the article because we need 327 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: public accountability. People need closure and understanding why they've been 328 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: lied to for so long. I just want to ask 329 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: you from a medical perspective. I want to use a 330 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: guy like Justin Turdeau as an example. Justin Tredeaux is 331 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: otherwise just by looking at him, relatively young, relatively healthy. 332 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: I believe he has now had four COVID shots and 333 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: he has tested positive still for COVID twice. If you 334 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: think about this from a medical perspective and take it 335 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: away from COVID, is there any other and I'm putting 336 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: vaccine in quotation marks here, any other vaccine that you 337 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: can think of that someone would take four times in 338 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: the space of eighteen months, who is otherwise like Justin Trudeau, 339 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: relatively young and relatively healthy, and still get the virus 340 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: that he got the shot for four times in the 341 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: space of eighteen months. This seems extraordinary from a medical perspective. 342 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: You're actually a doctor. Is there any analogous situation you 343 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: can think of in modern history that would reflect what's 344 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: going on right now when it comes to the number 345 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: of people who've gotten four shots for COVID and still 346 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: gotten a potentially multiple times, not with the same vaccine. 347 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we're still using the Wuhan strained vaccine. What 348 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: we should be doing if we want to give people 349 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: a booster there's a new variant yet to come, is 350 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: they should be getting covaccine, which is a vaccine that's 351 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: very effective as traditional as an inactivated vaccine, an inactivated 352 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: virus that gives you protection to the entire surface of 353 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: the virus, not just the spike protein. But it's been 354 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: sitting at the FDA for six months as if the 355 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: FDA does not want it to be out there, so 356 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: we're given probably the wrong vaccine almicron will land in 357 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: your nose and replicate fast and give people symptoms before 358 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the immune system kicks in. That's why it gives a 359 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: mild common cold like illness or sore throat to most people. 360 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: You can get a thousand vaccine doses with the Wuhan 361 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: strain vaccine. It's not going to protect you against that. 362 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: So why sorry to cut you off but the buck, 363 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: but I just like would when I hear you say that. 364 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: How come no other doctors are saying this. We've got 365 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: vaccine fanaticism. You've got to be either pro or anti. 366 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: And if you're not on the bandwagon, you know, I've 367 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: been told by people that if you say anything about 368 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: natural immunity, it could result in some people choosing not 369 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: to get the vaccine. So we have this sort of 370 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: McCarthyism right now in medicine where people are saying, don't 371 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: talk truth. Just get on the vaccine bandwagon and talk 372 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: about it until you're blue in the face and get 373 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: the whole world vaccinated as many times as possible. I mean, 374 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: some people would have you get vaccinated every Monday morning 375 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: when you show up at work, but that's not going 376 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: to help prevent the transmission of COVID. What helps prevent 377 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the transmission of COVID as natural immunity, and a study 378 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: last week in the New England Journal of Medicine again 379 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: show natural immunity is more effective and comes out on top. 380 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: We don't want people to get the infection, but that's 381 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: why we're seeing cases and protection change. We're seeing the 382 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: dynamics change where hospitals are empty and people are getting 383 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: protection against severe disease. We're speaking to doctor Marty McCarry 384 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: of Johns Hopkins University Medical Center. He's also the author 385 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: of The Price We Pay Doc. I remember in New 386 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: York City in June of twenty twenty, there was a 387 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: lot of talk about so two years ago, almost of 388 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: the day prology testing to see how many people had 389 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: gotten infected, And at that point June of twenty twenty, 390 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: two years ago, about twenty percent of New York City 391 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: had already had COVID. Fast forward two years, I never 392 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: hear anybody talking about prology testing anymore. To really get 393 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: a sense of how widespread infection is in the has 394 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: been I should say, in the community here in America 395 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: across the country, do we have real estimates on it 396 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: because I start to feel I mean, I'm on COVID 397 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: I think I actually had it a third time. I 398 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: definitely have had it twice, as shown in tests and 399 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: everything else. I had a third time where I thought 400 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: maybe I had it, And people are now saying they 401 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: think the tests might not catch it in the same 402 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: way they had thought previously. Anyway, but if someone asked me, 403 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: I'd say, I think about eighty to ninety percent of 404 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: the country has at least had COVID once. Is that 405 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: a fair estimate? And that's just me shooting from the hit, 406 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: But what do you think? Do we know? I think 407 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: that's the correct estimate because it was seventy five as 408 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: a February, and obacon has been circulating in high velocity 409 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: since then, so it's probably eighty to ninety percent, and 410 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: seniors it's well over ninety eight ninety nine. The problem 411 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: is that the FDA is meeting right now and about 412 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: to vote on vaccines in kids under five down to 413 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: six months of age, and they're ignoring the fact that 414 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of those kids had COVID as in February, 415 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: so it's probably eighty to ninety now. So there's this 416 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: bandwagon effect. And here's what they do. They undercount infections 417 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: because they're just looking at confirmed cases. We know there's 418 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty to fifty cases for everyone that we get documented 419 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: with the CDC. They're undercounting infections that make the infections 420 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: fatality rate look more dangerous. And they undercount vaccine adverse events, 421 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: which makes the vaccine look safer than it really is. 422 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: And without those two numbers, how can anyone make an 423 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: honest recommendation on vaccine to get help healthy year olds, 424 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: healthy young kids. Ask someone who's pushing vaccines and healthy kids, 425 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: how many happy kids have that of COVID? They can't 426 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: tell you. How many healthy kids have had an adverse 427 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: event from the vaccines? They can't tell you. So how 428 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: are we pushing this so with such bigger That's exactly 429 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: what we talked about right before you came on, doctor McCarry. 430 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: What would you tell people out there? And there are 431 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them listening to us right now, five 432 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: to eleven year olds. I told people exactly what I chose, 433 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: which is my seven and eleven year olds are not 434 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: getting the COVID shot. That's my choice as a parent. 435 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: But I just want to be clear with everybody. I 436 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: don't have a kid under the age of five. If 437 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: I did, there is a zero percent chance that we 438 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: would be getting the COVID shot for my children under 439 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: the age of five. You don't have kids yourselves yet, 440 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: But what would you say to anyone out there listening 441 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: to us right now with kids eleven or under, and certainly, 442 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: as you mentioned with the CDC about to go to 443 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: five and under, what would you tell them about that choice? Well, 444 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: I would echo what the doctor at the CDC said 445 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: who voted against the group think. When she voted, she 446 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: said vaccines are not without potential complications, and we don't 447 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: have the data we need yet. If a kid has 448 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: a comorbid condition and has not had COVID, I would 449 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: encourage vaccination that as a kid has an im and 450 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: of suppressed condition, a special disease, the kid is somehow 451 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: massively overweight and has something called the metabolic syndrome, get 452 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: the kid vaccinated if they haven't had COVID. For healthy kids, 453 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a compelling case out there right now. 454 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Martin McCarry. 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He is running for governor 493 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: in my home state, the great state of New York. 494 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: And Andrew, I think if we did the math, I've 495 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: known you now I don't know, thirty five years something 496 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: like that. That sounds about right, Buck. I'm trying to 497 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: keep my opponents away from you because you have far 498 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: too much dirt on me. But you're absolutely right. We 499 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: go way back, my friend. How was I read some 500 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: of the highlights of it. I can't claim that I 501 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: was able to watch it live, but I saw in 502 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: some of the transcripts. Things got a little a little 503 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: fiery at the Republican primary debate last night here in 504 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: New York. They certainly did. And look, I tried to say, 505 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: focus on the issues the entire time. We had some 506 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: of my competitors that really were focused on the crossfire, 507 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: and to me going into it, my mindset was simply this, look, 508 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: whatever differences I may have with some of the other 509 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Republicans that are in the race buying to the denominee, 510 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: those weren't going to actually solve the issues that we're 511 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: seeing in the state of New York. In fact, the 512 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: crime is rising all across the state, and we have 513 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: bail reform in rogue DA's that won't prosecute resisting arrest 514 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: in arm robbery, The fact that our education system is 515 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: frankly broken. When you're giving a teachers union thirty one 516 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: billion dollars of a two hundred and twenty billion dollars 517 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: budget in the state of New York. And so for me, 518 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: I tried to focus on the issues. But one of 519 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: the bigger stories coming out of it, U Buck was, Uh, 520 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: you know there was a vaccine mandate that that was 521 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: in place. Um. The other three candidates had handed over 522 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: their papers, and I said very clearly on this that 523 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: I was not going to do it. First off, I've 524 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: gotten natural immunity, and I chose I've chosen not to 525 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: get the JAB and uh. And honestly, at this point 526 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: when I said, hey, look I'd be willing to take 527 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: a test if you want me to that morning, I'm 528 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: happy to show you that I do have natural immunity 529 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: on this, UM, they just said, well, you know what, 530 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: we have a company policy on this. I said, well, look, 531 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: when is when is the truth going to actually matter 532 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: on this? When are we gonna actually follow the data 533 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: and the science. But it was more political theater, just 534 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: like we're seeing with this January sixth committee hearing in 535 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: UH in brontime, So, Andrew, I gotta ask you, how 536 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: do you think you stack off? I mean, because look, 537 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you're you're in the primary still, and I know some 538 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: of your or at least one or two of your opponents, 539 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: and they're good guys, they're patriots, right. But let's just 540 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: skip past that for a second, and you tell me 541 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: if you are, in fact the Republican nominee for the 542 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: governor's race here in New York, you really think you 543 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: can take hocol Absolutely. Look, I think more than anything, 544 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: and this has been traveling the state for over the 545 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: last year now. You have so many New Yorkers and 546 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: this season this isn't just Republicans and Conservatives. These are 547 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: non affiliateds. These are independents, even some Democrats who are 548 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: looking and understand the dire straits that New York is in. 549 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned crime before, but I've pledged that on day one, 550 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: I would sit down with the leader of the Assembly 551 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: and the State Senate and tell them very simply, if 552 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: there's not a full repeal of bail reform on my desk, 553 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm not funding your top priorities in our upcoming budget negotiations, 554 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: and I'll fire Alvin Bragg on day one. That governor 555 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: has the authority to do that under Article eight, Section 556 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: thirteen of the New York State Constitution, as well as 557 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: other das who choose not to prosecute criminals, as well 558 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: as from a from an economic perspective, and Clay you 559 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: know this. Sorry, fuck you know this is very very well. 560 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: What I can tell you here is we continue to 561 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: compete with California to be the highest tax and most 562 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: overregulated state in the country. We need to be fiscally 563 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: responsible in New York. For comparison, New York state budget 564 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: is two hundred and twenty billion dollars, Florida ninety eight 565 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: billion dollars, and they have a million more people than 566 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: we do. It's no reason. It's no wonder why New 567 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: York leads the country and outmigration, and Florida seems to 568 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: be getting more and more New Yorkers by the money. 569 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: We're speaking are Giuliani. He's a candidate for governor of 570 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: New York and andrew to that end on the budget. 571 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, I agree that you're a born 572 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: and raised New Yorker, New York City kid just like me. 573 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: We actually went to the same school growing up here 574 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: in New York City. I get I get kind of 575 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: sad when I see what's happened not only the city, 576 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: but to all the people leaving the state. Right, you 577 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: get a lot of people that live within the general 578 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: environs of New York City. Right, commuters are saying enough, 579 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: the tax is too high, the crime, just the COVID 580 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: lockdown madness, that they've had enough. One, I mean, how 581 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: do we turn that around? And then also maybe actually 582 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: handle that second, because I would ask first where does 583 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: all the money go? Right, you just said Florida ninety 584 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: billion in the state budget New York two hundred and twenty. Well, 585 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: what are New Yorkers spending? What is the New York 586 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: state government spending all the tax dollars on? Well, if 587 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: you want to go through it, if Medicare is one, 588 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: but then you end up looking at two and three 589 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: came through twelve education and then higher education. We're gonna 590 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: look right there, and we know what the K through 591 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: twelve education budget is. There's a payoff to the teachers unions, 592 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: so that way they will come out and vote for 593 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Democratic politicians in November. To me, what I've proposed is 594 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: very simply a tax credit system that way any New Yorker, 595 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: to any New York parent that wants to their child 596 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: to go to baroquial school like we went to, or 597 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: private school or Yeshivah school if you're Jewish, or even homeschooling. 598 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: They have the tax dollars in their hands, so that 599 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: way they can truly be the primary stakeholder in their 600 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: kids education. It brings the free market into education here. 601 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: So for me, when you look at everything that's in 602 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: the budget, and by the way, fourth in there is 603 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: basically a massive slush fund for all these politicians to 604 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: be able to earmark whatever they end up wanting to 605 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: do that for the Assembly and the state state. So 606 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: you literally could go in on day one and say 607 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: we need fifteen to twenty percent cuts across the board 608 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: for the state budget, and honestly, it'd be one of 609 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: the most responsible things we can do for New York because, 610 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: as you know when we talk about this book, you're 611 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: going to have so many more New Yorkers leaving if 612 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: we decide to raise tax again, and you'll have more 613 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: people thinking about coming back if we decide to lower tax. 614 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: It actually will be an inverse relationship in terms of 615 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: what the tax rate is and how much you'll end 616 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: up taking in. We saw that in New York City 617 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties actually lower taxes, and New York 618 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: City ended up within two years taking in more in 619 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: tax revenue because more people actually wanted to be here, 620 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: more businesses wanted to be here, there was more tax revenue. 621 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: From that standpoint, that's the mindset we need in New 622 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: York State. Again, speaking of Andrew Giuliani running for governor 623 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: in New York, Andrew, what is the pathway to be 624 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: able to win? And people think of I mean, look, 625 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of New York listeners right now, 626 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: but for folks in other parts of the country, you know, 627 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: everywhere from Texas up to Washington State down to Florida, 628 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: they're thinking New York is like a lost cause politically, right, 629 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so blue. So Democrat, explain to 630 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: them how that may not be the case in this election, 631 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: given what's gone on and given the weakness with Hoco. 632 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean, make your best case for that. Well, Taffy Hoco. 633 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: In terms of her weakness right there, I think it's 634 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: thirty one percent of voters think that she's done a 635 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: fairer good job, which tells you that nearly seventy percent 636 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: of voters statewide, I think she's not a poor job 637 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: or even worse. So to me, it's it's pretty obvious. 638 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: If you don't know enough about Kathy Okel, you can 639 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: look at her and say, well, this is kind of 640 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo two point zero one in the sense that 641 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: she's happy to give away whatever she wants to in 642 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: the budget and just kind of look at this as 643 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: a quasi socialist state, if you will. And secondly, while 644 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: she's not there on a corruption standpoint, she just needs 645 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: a little more time. You can look at her lieutenant 646 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: governor who was literally taken away in handcuffs basically six 647 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: months onto his job, and Bill Hokel, who was her husband, 648 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: literally is profiting from this Buffalo Bill stadium deal. You 649 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: can take Bill Hokel out, and you could put in 650 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and it's the same thing. So New Yorker's 651 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: in an overwhelming majority over two to one, do not 652 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: approve of the job that Kathy Okel is doing, and 653 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: that's why we have that opportunity to win the crossover vote. 654 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: But if you want to break the data down a 655 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: little bit more when we talk about this, buck, take 656 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: a look basically at the fat that Republicans need to 657 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: win about thirty three percent of New York City. Really 658 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: it's thirty one to thirty four percent of New York 659 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: City in order to win statewide. In every single recent poll, 660 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: and this is a great thing about my candidacy, I 661 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: have been able to win thirty three to thirty six 662 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: percent of New York City and that puts us right 663 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: where we need to be for the math equation to 664 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: actually win New York state back. Come November eight, Andrew, 665 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: where can people go if they want to learn more 666 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: about your campaign? Go to save Andy dot org and 667 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to tell their friends in New York 668 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: come out and vote on June twenty eighth. 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It was suddenly 703 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: Democrats are speaking aloud what we've been talking about on 704 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: this show for a year now, which is Biden's incompetence 705 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: and whether it is possible for him to run for 706 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: reelection in twenty twenty four, not even based necessarily on 707 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: the incompetence, but based on the growing level of failures 708 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to media availabilities, based on all the 709 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: disasters that are going on around him, and whether at 710 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: eighty two years old he would be capable even physically 711 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: of being president all the way up to eighty six. Now, 712 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I think Buck and I and certainly a huge percentage 713 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: of you right, and that Biden isn't physically up to 714 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 1: the job right now. But what's unique is suddenly after 715 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: a year Buck, where we were told, oh, how dare 716 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: you question the mental faculties of Joe Biden, despite the fact, 717 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: by the way that they would have Robert de Niro 718 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: on CNN to talk about his belief that Donald Trump 719 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: wasn't mentally worthy of being president, and they talked about 720 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth Amendment all the time, still talking about it. 721 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: In relation to January sixth, Don Lemon. Don Leman actually 722 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: asked the worst White House Press secretary of all time, 723 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: Karen John Pierre, last night on CNN. Is Biden up 724 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: to the job in terms of being able to run 725 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: for reelection in twenty twenty four? Does the president have 726 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: the stamina physically and mentally do you think to continue 727 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: on even after twenty twenty four? Don, you're asking me 728 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: this question. Oh my gosh, he's the president of the 729 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: United States, you know he I can't even keep up 730 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: with it. We just got back from New Mexico. We 731 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: just got back from California. That is that is not 732 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: a question that we should be even asking. Just look 733 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: at what the work that he does, Look what he's 734 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: how he's delivering for the American public. It is absolutely 735 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: a question that we not only should be asking. We 736 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: all know the answer to it already, but really for 737 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: Don Lemon to ask, it's just getting it on the record, 738 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: And it's at some level I think requiring or the 739 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: White House must think that we are all we the 740 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: American people really dumb. You know. Joe Biden said, we 741 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: remember this that Hunter Biden was the smartest person he 742 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: had ever met when they were asking why don't they 743 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: paying your son to eighty thousand dollars a month for 744 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: being on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. Oh, 745 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: he's the smartest, smartest person I've ever met. Yeah, sure, 746 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: that's we're all really dumb. We all believe that. And 747 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: with Karen Jehan Pierre talking about how Biden has more 748 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: energy than everybody else, I mean, he's visibly confused sometimes 749 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: in his role as the president. He's shuffling around like 750 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: it look and again, I hate that they put us 751 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: in this position where we're talking about a guy because 752 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: we're all, you know, hopefully God willing all gonna last 753 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: in or eighties or nineties, and you know, but you know, 754 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,919 Speaker 1: he's the president, he's the commander in chief, and this 755 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: is having a real impact on a lot of people's lives. 756 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: That you have somebody who is He was never impressive. 757 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he was never somebody of special cognitive ability. 758 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Biden was always kind of a jackass. But 759 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: now he's too old. Even even if he had been 760 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: previously someone who was really erudite, somebody who really had 761 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: a lot of acumen. No, no, not good. Here's the 762 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: way I would put it. We have fifty people working 763 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: at out kick Ish now now it's been purchased by Fox. 764 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: We don't have a single job at my media company 765 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: that I sold the Fox that Joe Biden could do, 766 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: not One and Buck. If Joe Biden said, like, let's 767 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: say we're out on vacation, you and I and we said, hey, 768 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: you know what, We'll let Joe Biden sit in and 769 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: do one three hour show Clay and Buck. Now, look, 770 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm not claiming that people would be like ecstatic about that, 771 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, hey, we give him a three hour window. 772 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: He has to sit down just like you and I do, 773 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: in front of the mic and talk for three hours, 774 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: make kojin arguments, have audio clips that he wants to 775 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: play to make the case. Fuck. It would be an 776 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster. Joe Biden right now could not do our job. 777 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: And if you were out there listening to Joe Biden 778 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: talk on the radio for three hours just one day, 779 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: you would think to yourself, oh, my goodness, what in 780 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: the world is going on? That this guy's the leader 781 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: of the free world and we're talking about gas prices. 782 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,479 Speaker 1: Is there a single person out there that believes Joe 783 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: Biden could run a gas station anywhere in America right now, 784 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: he's trying to solve gas prices for the entire country. 785 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: Would he be capable of working at any gas station 786 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: in America? I think the answers no. And it's also 787 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: insulting to our intelligence that on the one hand they 788 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: act like, by the way gas price today all time high, 789 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: even all time high today, not fortunately every day for 790 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: the next sixty days, I feel like it's gonna be. 791 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: We are at the as I speak to you right now, 792 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: all across the country, the price of gas is the 793 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: highest on average it has ever been in the history 794 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: of the Republic. And they want you to they want 795 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: you to believe that this isn't anything having to do 796 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: with their policies, but they do want us all the 797 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: transition to green energy. They are using the Defense Production 798 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: Act for solar panels. Here is a former Secretary of State, 799 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo saying, let's get real here, folks. Before he 800 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: even turned to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabian to the 801 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: cutteries to the Emberandis folks that could provide us not 802 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: only crudeo but natural gas as well. It's the right 803 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: thing to do. I hope that he actually delivers on it. 804 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: He promised in the campaign he wouldn't do it. He 805 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, we'd be willing to have payment to 806 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: pomp have the American people suffer. Every action they've taken 807 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: suggests they have intended that the American people suffer from 808 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: these high prices so that we can convert to solar 809 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: panels and windmills. Something. This is not going to happen. 810 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: I hope he does. I hope he goes there. I 811 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: hope to have a good constructive conversation about how to 812 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: manage these prices. It's not just about cars. And I 813 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: was with family this weekend who said that their kids 814 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 1: travel soccer teams, playing only half of their games now 815 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 1: because parents can't afford to drive their kids to these games. 816 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: They are a little ways off. It's also price based 817 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: as well for products that people buy. Fifty percent of 818 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: petroleum goes into stuff you are buying, Yeah, which means 819 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: that there's and also that milk you're buying that's more expensive. 820 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: I look Granted I drink some fancy milk sometimes, but 821 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: it's still milk, right, like it's actual call milk. I 822 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: saw something in Holtwood there was milk, and it was 823 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: I think it was a gallon, but it was like 824 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: thirteen dollars. The only place, by the way that I 825 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: shop is Costco and Amazon. So I am not very, 826 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: like very cognizant of what stuff costs in general, except 827 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: for gas. And every time I pull into a gas 828 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: station to fill up, I think, man, this guy is 829 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: a disaster, and I'm fortunate enough. Look I can I've 830 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: been demanded lots of times I wasn't where I don't 831 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: have to think, oh, I'm not going to be able 832 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: to do this because of what I just had to 833 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: fill up my gas tank to do. It's summer. There's 834 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there who are thinking, you know, 835 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to take my kid to go see this 836 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: new Jurassic Park movie, or I'd like to take my 837 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: kid to go see to the water park or whatever else, 838 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: or just take my family out for dinner. That consequences 839 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: of high gas prices take away from a lot of 840 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: people their ability to do the fun things in life. 841 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: Fuck my grandma used to work, and she said, my 842 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: grandfather worked to live, and she worked to make life 843 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: worth living. And there are a lot of people out 844 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: there in that world right where you're grinding as hard 845 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: as you can. We know, we got a lot of 846 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: people out there listening to us, and not only you, 847 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,959 Speaker 1: but your wife are working as hard as you can 848 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: and it's not making life worth living because of what 849 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: inflation and Joe Biden has meant to your paycheck. I 850 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: can feel it. I know the American public can feel it. 851 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: It feels like there are a lot of people in 852 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: charge right now who have not had that feeling of 853 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: maybe ever I think in a lot of cases ever, 854 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: depending on who we're talking about. But you know, I'm 855 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna buy the stake tonight. I'm 856 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna get the frozen ground turkey because I gotta watch 857 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: my budget. That's right, you know. I mean, I've they've 858 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 1: never had that experience of going to the ATM machine 859 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: and realizing I'm basically out of money. I've had as 860 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: an adult, I've had that experience where I'm not a 861 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: good feel I'm worth like a couple of hundred dollars 862 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: on paper, it's not a guy. Yeah easy, that's not 863 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: a good feeling at all, or where you get there 864 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I'm gonna I could barely even 865 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: cover the withdrawal fees. You know, right now when I'm 866 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 1: trying to take out some cash, and I talked about 867 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, and I don't know 868 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: who it was, but right in front of me, the 869 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: person had bought one gallon right I mean it was 870 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: when gallon gas was four fifty. And that's where people 871 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: are right now. This is why when Biden goes and 872 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: gives this speech the AFLCIO and he's doing the whole 873 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: I care so much about the unions. You know, if 874 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: if you're an electrician, if you're a trucker, if you're 875 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: a carpenter, a tradesman of some kind, you know, you're 876 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: people that are that are working long hours for not 877 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of money. And you're hearing this stuff from Biden. 878 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: Keep in mind the anxiety that you're describing that people 879 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: feel when they can't do the fun things, not going 880 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: out to dinner or not getting the food that they 881 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: necessarily want because they're going with you know, going to 882 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: less expensive stuff. I also hate when Bill Gates and 883 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: all them, oh you don't need Hamburgers eat Lenzols, you 884 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: know like this, Did you hear this from these the 885 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: elites a lot, Biden, the people in charge right now 886 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: say it without saying it. That clearly the pain that 887 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: those folks are feeling all across America, the anxiety they feel, 888 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,760 Speaker 1: is a necessary price to pay for saving the planet 889 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: from climate change. Exactly what Pompeio was saying. It's true, 890 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: that's what they really think. They don't care that you 891 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: can't take your kids to the movies because they have 892 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: to say at the planet from COO two while they're 893 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: flying on private jets. You can't take your kids to 894 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: the movies. That's how they actually feel. Yeah, and look, 895 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: I also know it's sports season. There's a lot of 896 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: people out there saying, hey, you can make it through 897 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: another year with those tennis shoes. You can make it 898 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: through another year with those cleats. Maybe you can't even 899 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: be able to play Little League because mom and dad 900 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: can't afford to get you to every game. 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