WEBVTT - Podcast: Dez Bryant Released By Cowboys 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:09.360 This is the Talking Cowboys break streaming live on Dallas 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:15.440 Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys app After 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.840 an eight year run, the Dez Bryant Era in Dallas 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.639 is over. Cowboys officially part ways with their veteran wide 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.240 receiver today after a brief visit with Jerry Jones here 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.160 at the Star in Frisco. We're inside the SWBC mortgage 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.720 studio for instant reaction breaking it all down. Rob Phillips, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.440 joined as always by Nicki. Ben Brian brought us Mickey Spagnola. Guys. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.960 It's about three four months in the making, and it 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.479 looked like the meeting between Jerry and Dez that was 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.800 long awaited lasted. I don't know, maybe a half hour 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.480 or something like that. Left the building, Mick, you saw him, Yes, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.600 that is goodbyes, got in his car, said, didn't sight 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.279 too much to too many people. I think he went 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.560 in the weight room, greeted a couple of guys who 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.920 greeted him when he first showed up. Had two I'm 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.360 guessing buddies, a driver somebody else in the car with him, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.320 and I'm told he said, I'll see you guys twice 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:16.840 this year, so let your imaginations wander with that one. Well, 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.880 I think everyone kind of thought that he was if 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.720 he does, you know, he's gonna sign with another team. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.080 When he does, he's gonna be somebody on this schedule. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.399 Maybe maybe he's already got something in the works there. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.720 Who knows. Of course, that would be tampering if it was. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.559 But I think overall, I mean, we saw this coming 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.399 for a while. It's still surprising though. It's still there's 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.200 something about it that just when watching him and you know, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.480 we actually saw him drive off, it's you know, it 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.399 was kind of a surprising thing. It just too many 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.760 the timing of everything appeared that this was going to happen, 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.320 just if you look at with the the OTAs, the 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.800 workouts all starting on Monday, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garret, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.560 Will McLay. They waited till really the last possible minute 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.240 to get this too done. You know, they had opportunities 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.760 if they were going to bring him back, they had 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.400 opportunities for that. They could have told him the plans, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.519 but des went a long time without hearing anything from 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.760 the front office here, and so as you started to 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.560 see things with the signings of the free agents, that 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.680 they had with Hearns Thompson. Then you look at what 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.519 they've done with the thirty visits, how they've worked guys out. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.079 It just became very clear to me, and I said 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.280 it on our round table that I just too many 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.000 things were lining up for this day to happen. I 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.760 just never felt like that they were going to to 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.480 bring him back under these circumstances. And you know, it's 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.880 just you know, decisions made by the front office. You know, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.079 Jerry Jones talked about once again input from a lot 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.200 of different voices and that's always been his style, and 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.800 whether that's the coach, of the front office, members, maybe 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.480 even some players there all had a hand in this one. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.520 Get the idea that there was a consensus on what 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.240 they wanted to do, but the last person that had 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.160 to sign off on it was Jerry Jones. I don't 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.560 think Jerry Jones wanted to release Dees Bryant. Yeah, I don't. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.760 This This goes back to very much the you know, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.000 Jerry Jones, his uh say what you want. I think 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.360 the love he has for his players reminds me so 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.160 much of what Al Davis. The love he has Al 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.200 Davis would blame the coaches before he blamed the player. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.800 And I think Jerry Jones really does love does Bryant. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.720 And I think that some things just not think they 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.280 lined up. There were people that lined up and said 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.560 we cannot have him here anymore. And Jerry is a 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.080 very good listener. He is a very good listener, and 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.840 you know, when you have a large number of people 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.000 that are lining up against people, or a constant guy 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.480 or whatever, he's going to make that decision, and this 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.400 was one. I think it was very painful for him 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:56.000 to have to make. Is this a good move? I'm 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.720 still tarned by it because we got I guess we 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.800 should read the release that the Cowboys put out. It 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:09.440 was a statement from Jerry, but it doesn't say why. Yeah, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.760 I think you can go down a lot of avenues 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:18.080 on why. I think it takes a lot of nerve 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.520 to do what they did. And I'll yeah, yeah, But 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.600 at the same time, you're right. I mean, at the moment, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.480 if he were to have stayed, he would have been 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.799 the best wide receiver on this football team, and certainly 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.440 in the most accomplished receiver. But you know what they 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.440 did this in two thousand and nine, they got rid 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.560 of an All Pro Pro Bowl wide out who was 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.760 less than a year into a big time extension Tarall Owens, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.719 and I'm not directly comparing the two, but they did it. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.960 That was a chemistry move, and this was probably mostly 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.359 a production move, but I bet there might be a 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.960 little bit of locker room involvement here in terms of 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.280 helping the locker room out. Stephen Jones came out earlier 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.720 in the offseason and said, first time I think I've 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.720 heard anybody say this, some of his off sideline stuff 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.479 could be a distraction. He's got to do a better 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.279 job of handling his emotions. I think that probably was 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.840 at least a little bit of a factor here. They 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.000 didn't they didn't let them in, you know. I mean 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.240 I see that. I mean, I hear what you're saying. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.560 And I don't know exactly what side of the fence 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.960 I'm on here, but I've heard them say that kind 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.520 of stuff, like he needs to do better at this, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.400 and he needs to be better at that. But he 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.080 didn't get He's not getting a chance here to do that, right. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.800 But I'll answer that first. I mean, I threw it 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.520 out there and I wanted Brian stake. I think This 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.400 won't be a good move unless they do something with 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.480 this money. If they're gonna save money, then they need 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.320 to spend the money. I don't they need to do 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.200 something else. They cut Daz because they are going to 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.360 get this player or trade for this player, that better 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.640 not be done because what are you saving money? I 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.080 will say this, they needed to free up some money 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.320 just to have money under the cap to get your 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.160 draft picks done and all that kind of stuff. But 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.719 I hear you. I mean there was other guys to 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.920 cut for that could have done that you could have done. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:07.560 So what you're saying if if are you excluding them 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.719 using that money to extend Zach Martin, Because if you 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.680 extend Zach Martin, it should cost less than his nine 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.400 million dollars, right right, So there's got to be another 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.320 rain pot at the end of the rainbow that you're 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.640 looking for to use the eight million dollars a lot 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.559 in Seattle. Yeah, and the implier is doing his best 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.640 right now to try and conduct I want them to 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.200 go get Earl Thomas, That's what I wanted to do, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.240 or go get a safety that they can spend this 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.479 money on. Yeah, I think that in in Cowboy Nation, 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:42.080 eyes if if they sit here and and giving the 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.640 money to Zach Martin is the right thing to do. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.800 But yeah, I think that the Cowboys, if they really 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.120 really wanted to to say, Okay, we did this to 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.680 try and as the last line help our football team 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.440 the best interests. We did this because exactly the best 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.960 interests of our football team. I feel like though, that 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.720 if you know, Seattle is sitting there without a second 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.800 round pick, they don't have a third round pick either. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.440 But if you're sitting there and you say, Okay, we 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.920 took Dez Bryant's money and we went and got one 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.640 of the best safeties in the National Football League, you know, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.280 and said Seattle, and I think you I think Seattle 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.040 is a little bit over a barrel right now, I 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.880 really really do. And I haven't talked to John about 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.720 it at all, but I know that they don't have 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.680 a second round pick. They don't have a third round pick, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.400 you know. And if you and John Snyder is well 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.320 aware that he's gonna have a difficult time resigning this 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.800 guy after next year, So John might be in the 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.880 motive let's get something now and go. You know, you're right, Nick, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.320 you go make a move and you go get something 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.720 like that because you release Dad's Bryant. Now you're that's 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.920 considered a good football move. They're gonna pay a safety 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.640 fourteen million dollars a year. I think that's what he wants. Yeah, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.480 I think that you have to I think that you 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.440 have to look at everything is negotiable. In my opinion, 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.000 he wanted Seattle, wanted a one in a three, and 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.760 you're gonna give him a two. And you're gonna tell 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.280 him that's my best offer. Whether you could take the 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:03.920 one in the two or you could you could try 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.760 for one in the three. But I'm giving you the 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.920 fiftieth overall pick John Snyder. If you don't want that, 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.200 then I'm gonna I'll go I'll go trade that fifty, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.160 go up and try and draft Irwin James. But I'm 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.800 not taking him on a one year deal. No, you're not. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.040 But but that's what I'm saying, how bad does or 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.640 if you're gonna make this trade, you want the opportunity 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.320 to sign or to again we're talking about trade when 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.200 it's about Dez Bryant. Well but but but but yeah, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.760 it's got to be you should take that money and 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.920 try and make your football team better agree and that 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.280 And I hear what you're saying about one year deal 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.080 if if you were to do that, and we're getting 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.800 a little bit ahead of ourselves on that particular player. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.960 But he did chase down Jason Garrett before he went 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.160 to the locker room and said come get me. So 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.679 I'm just saying he may not be looking for one 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.400 year's one year deal anyways, he's not. But the thing 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.400 about it is, it's you would not make this trade 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.120 unless you said, I want the opportunity to talk to 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.880 him first, ye give me permission to talk to the 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.079 player and is representative. If they can hammer something out, 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.360 then make the trade. If they can't. You know, like 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.720 I said, you got the draft, You've brought in several 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.480 guys to have that optunity. They're not Earl Thomas, but 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.679 there's several guys that can help. We're just speculating now 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.320 on that player. But but but we're just talking about 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.720 I am and I think Brian agrees. I mean, they're 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.680 gonna cut him. It's got to be for for something, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.800 because he was fitting under the cap. I see what 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.560 you're doing. You're trying to say, why would you let 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.800 Dez Bryant go. We gotta be a reason because he 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.839 was fitting under the cap. It was gonna work. Yeah, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.719 it was gonna work, but it would have been I 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.200 think thirty million bucks under the cap committed to your 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.720 wide receivers in a run first offense. And we've been 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.880 saying that on our shows. I know Dave was hitting 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.280 this really hard, like something's got to give, right, I mean, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:51.240 you can't. You can't allocate that much resource, many resources, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:52.880 one of these guys, see, and that's where I was 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.720 going to. Let me read this, this this guise could be there. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.160 Let me read this official statement from Jerry real quick, 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.840 because Mick, he's right about that. To that, he said, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.680 an organization, we hold Dez Bryan in the highest regard. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.600 We're grateful for his passion, spirit and contributions to this 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.680 team for the past eight years. He will always be 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.560 a valued member of our family. Does and I share 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.760 a personal and professional relationship that's very strong, and he's 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.079 one of just a handful of players with whom I 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.800 have become close to over the past thirty years. This 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.400 was not an easy decision. It was made based upon 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.120 doing what we believe is in the best interests of 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.240 the Dallas Cowboys. We arrived at this crossroad collectively with 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.920 input from several voices within the organization. Ultimately we determined 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.760 it was time to go in a new direction, So 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.560 a lot of input. As you said, there's not a 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.599 clear cut reason why. And you guys are talking defensive 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.080 side of the ball, maybe trying to get some help there. Offensively, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.920 how does this receiver corps look? I mean, does this 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.760 make the draft a huge need now? Or do you 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.000 guys have confidence in Alan Hearns to step into that 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.000 X spot. I think that there's several there's several options 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.319 they have at nineteen if they want to go again. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.320 It depends on there's people that might have a Sudden 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.920 from SMU ahead of more and Ridley. There might be 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.000 people to have more ahead of both those. I mean, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.520 you're going to have an option at nineteen to draft 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.400 a guy, the guy that makes the most sense that 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.000 what could play the X would be Sudden he would 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.960 be the guy. Now again, with all that being said, uh, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.880 you know, Hearns could play the X for you if 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.160 they draft Ridly, he could play the Z. And then 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.839 you figure out what you want to do with with 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.640 Terrence Williams, that's that's could be the route you gotta 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.480 get Cole Beasley going back on track two. But they 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.160 will have an option at nineteen now which you have 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.840 to worry about. You have to worry about Baltimore ahead 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.120 of you at seventeen at at sixteen excuse me, and 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.400 you have to worry about Seattle trading out of the pick. No, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.120 you got to worry about your decision being right. Yeah, 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:50.760 that these guys can replace his production. They've they've they're made, 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.480 they've made that bet, Mickey, Yeah, that's that's that's not 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.160 a sure bet. Yeah, this is this is one of 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.680 those things where you again, as as an organism, they've 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.480 they've put their head down, they're gonna go forward. You know, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.520 we can question everything they're gonna do. They honestly believe 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.520 that they can get somebody to help them in this draft, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.640 whether it's in the nineteen at fifty, they believe that 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.800 they can get somebody with what they currently have on 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.800 the roster, that they could get somebody to replace dead. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:22.679 Does Bryant soign No, I'm just I keep look at 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.560 this Star magazine, which everybody in here contributed to and 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.040 has done a lot of good work Brian, I know, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.600 did a ton of profiles, and I'm looking at the 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:35.080 cover Sutton Kirk, James Washington, and I'm just thinking one 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.280 of these guys, and it could be more. It could 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.160 be oh yeah literally in DJ Moore, could be more 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.920 guys than that. But between nineteen and fifty, is this 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.760 going to be a situation where they're like, hey, just 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.400 take the best guy available at nineteen. If we don't 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.520 get the receiver there, there's some good ones we like. Yeah, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.480 I don't want to turn us into the draft show again, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.400 but yeah, you're absolutely right, they're going to have an opportunity. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.800 The problem is some of those guys like Sutton, if 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.320 you know, if you want to trade back up in 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.440 the second round, if you want to if you if 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.160 you want to make a pick at nineteen where you 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.760 take a linebacker and then you want to take fifty 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.840 and go up, there's a possibility of ways of doing that. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.160 But I thought you already spent that. Yeah. Well, I'm 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.280 just I'm just saying. I'm just saying if they didn't 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.440 make that, yeah with you. But okay, that's a good point. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.640 Let's say that is on the table. Let's say that 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.440 the fifth the second and maybe the third or something 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.160 in that range is going to the Northwest. If that, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.720 if you knew that, does nineteen have to be a receiver? 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.920 I think you would have to say yes. And they 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.719 hate doing that, they hate going in but yeah, but 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.560 they but they protected themselves in a way where again, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.440 Hearns can play the X. You know, if you again 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.680 you draft Ridley, he's a Z more could play the 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.600 X or the Z. Sudden I think is going to 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.320 be an X. It's a six three guy. You know. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.800 That's a big man that you know, and we'll see 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.319 how the development of him is. But I don't think 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.520 they've pinned themselves accord because I feel like though, but again, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.640 I just want to say this, you have to worry 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.280 about a couple of teams ahead of you, and I 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:07.760 think you have to worry about the Ravens, and I 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.440 think you have to worry about the Seahawks. Not the 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.360 Seahawks will take a guy that somebody knows now that 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.280 Dallas is going to take one of these receivers at 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.120 nineteen and all of a sudden, Seattle gets their second 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.960 round pick back. Seattle gets a third round pick back 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.320 because somebody knows Dallas Dallas did it to draft Dez Bryant. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.120 They did it to the Baltimore Ravens. Jerry Jones moved 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.680 up ahead of Ozzie Newsom to take Dez Bryant. I 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.120 think you have to be concerned, but yeah, they probably 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.440 feel like they protected themselves with the guys they currently 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.800 have on the roster. Is it as good as Dez Bryant, No, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:44.920 it's not. Is it similar in some ways? Yes? Okay, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.520 that's great. That's great information. And all of a sudden, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.920 now looks like wide receiver, you're throwing line back, you're 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.160 throwing defensive line, I mean safety. There's a several spots 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.280 now where they could go in certain directions, and we'll 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.640 find out in a couple of weeks what they I 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.440 think that all along they've kept this very open. I 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.560 think if you if you think about the thirty visits 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.360 and who they've visited, I think they've kept it open 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.560 with receivers, with offensive linemen, with linebackers. I think they're 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.120 very open to the possibility. Last year we saw them 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.280 visit defensive ends and corners. They really didn't telegraph anything 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.480 what they're doing so far this year with the way 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.080 they've kept their thirty visits really open. Let me let 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.400 me ask you this, and this is hindsight at this point, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.880 but how would you evaluate where Dez was after the 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.440 season and where you think he could have been in 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.800 this offense going forward if they decided to keep. I mean, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.800 we've seen them do this before as a franchise. They 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.840 will part ways with a guy maybe a year early 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.720 before it's a year too late, and had two years 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.360 left on his deal. You know, they did it with 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.360 I think Greg Ellis was a guy to Marcus ware. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.440 It doesn't always work out that way, right You think 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.080 he could have worked it out with Dak Prescott on 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.560 the field or do you think they the riding was 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.040 on the wall? They were not a match together on 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.400 the field. Yeah, I think that there is something to 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.280 be said for that. And I also want to say 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.160 this about Dak. You know, I think it's high alert 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.880 for him now too, Like, hey, you know you've and 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.720 who's to say that this is exactly just them two 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.760 couldn't get along. But but I think des was a 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.320 great receiver for many years with Tony throwing him the ball, 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.120 and now all of a sudden he forgot how to play. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.000 I mean, I don't. No one believes that. But this 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.160 is Dak friendly. Maybe it isn't considered Dak friendly anymore. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.680 That's fine, but they better find somebody that can be 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.800 friendly to it. And Dak needs this is a this 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.400 to me, Dak needs to step up and and and 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.760 play better as well. I mean, is this isn't just 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.880 about all of a sudden they don't mesh well, I mean, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.480 we could be doing an emergency show next year with 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.000 a lot of changes. Well, you know that's that's that's possible. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:47.560 Does this move make this team better? I think that's 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:52.400 a that's a fair question, because still I still need 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:57.040 They're not better on April thirteenth. I still need a 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.600 lead receiver. I ain't got one. Yeah, all right. I 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.359 still need an insurance policy at linebacker because I ain't 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.600 got one. Right, I still need a backup offensive tackle. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.600 I don't think I have one unless they find a 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.959 guard Fleming and Fleming and the Marl stays at right tackle. Right, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.600 Fleming's my backup. Right, So there's a lot of things 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:26.600 they've got to figure out here now in July twenty third. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.720 But you don't go buy a new house typically unless you, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.560 you know, sell the other one, so that that might 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.679 got you, that might be what they're doing here. And 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.880 but I'm totally with you. Right now they're not better. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.080 They're not a better team than they were yesterday. But 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.880 if this move, this money makes them better down the road, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.240 we'll see, but as of right now, they're not. But 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.760 you didn't answer my question. What was it? Do you 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.760 feel like the dak des marriage could have been fixed 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.640 or do you think the organization just felt like, look, 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.240 we're dancing around it. We're dancing around that. Because that 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:57.920 that's that was the big question at the end of 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.119 the season, Right, these two play together, I say no, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.200 I'll go no, and there wasn't dislike I'm not saying 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.560 that on that one. I'll since we in the business 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.520 of speculation, and I understand Mickey, I mean one, I'm 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.399 asking on the field chemistry, what happened? Why? Why did it? 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.159 Mickey will argue at the end of the end of 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.840 the playoff run that they were rolling along. What was 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.200 wrong with what he did the year before? Yeah? Right, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.360 But but I all of a sudden, yeah, I think 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.160 all of a sudden, I think team said, you know what, 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.000 we're not letting letting you have that that's right. We're 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.240 gonna you're not getting Beasley for seven yards over the middle, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.520 and you're not getting Witten anymore. You Dak have to 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.520 make that throw to Dez and des has to run 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.439 the right route. I think Blast, I think you're right 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.160 about all that time. And I don't think Dak is 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.080 capable of doing that kind of stuff that Romo did 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.280 at that point. At this point in his career, he's 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.960 two years in. Yeah, but he did think more about 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.280 the quarterback about the receiver. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.480 But Robert Griffin did it his first year too, and 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.159 they figured him out too. I mean, I'm just like 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.560 they figured him out. It wasn't that it was the 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.720 wide receiver's fault. No. I think there are certain routes 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.080 that are good for Dak, and I think that some 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.040 of the stuff that does well, the stuff that Dak 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.840 does well. After a couple of years of seeing that 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.720 and the coordinators saying all right, let's let's take this away. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.520 I'm not saying that they couldn't do it in year three. Yeah, 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.320 I mean they might have been able to kind of 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.160 mess some stuff. If Scott Lanahan, he's you know, he's 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.200 highly talented around here. He's another man you need to 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:26.879 put on black. He could have he you know, he 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.800 can work that kind of stuff too. I'm just saying 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.080 they decided after two years. One year was really good. Actually, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.520 you know, their years were about the same. Des his 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.000 staff were about the same. They just weren't winning as 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.600 many games. See, they're running the ball. Though he threw 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.400 more balls, threw more balls this year than they did last. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.879