Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong in show, Katty Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Jettie and no Hee.
Speaker 2: Arms even from the studio, ce say a senior a
Speaker 2: dimly lit room.
Speaker 1: Where do you put them?
Speaker 3: The bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound?
Speaker 1: And hey all, yeah, we're getting close to Christmas today.
Speaker 1: We're under the tutelage of our general manager. Drug boats.
Speaker 1: There were three more taken out in last twenty four
Speaker 1: hours or something like that. Kirk Blue, Kirk Blue, come up,
Speaker 1: Kirk Bluie.
Speaker 3: Did we get them all at the first shot or
Speaker 3: did we have to all find a couple of people
Speaker 3: clinging to balsa wood and make sure they got the
Speaker 3: old double tap rights?
Speaker 1: Not clear in this account. Story seems to have gone away?
Speaker 3: Is that story?
Speaker 1: Over All?
Speaker 3: Stories go away in like three days, no matter how
Speaker 3: enormous they are, because there are so many stories, too
Speaker 3: many stories, especially if a celebrity gets killed. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: apparently government needs to strictly limit how many things happen.
Speaker 3: I'm interested in the whole Rob Reiner thing, just you know,
Speaker 3: it's interesting, but it's amazing.
Speaker 1: The news coverage.
Speaker 3: It's getting last All the newscasts I took in last
Speaker 3: night had the top three stories in the exact opposite
Speaker 3: order of importance to the world. In my mind, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would agree, but you know, you know, as you know,
Speaker 3: I was born annoyed and will die annoyed. But I've
Speaker 3: tried not to be annoyed by this. I've tried to
Speaker 3: understand it.
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it about the average human being?
Speaker 3: Because all of us tend to assume that everybody else's
Speaker 3: head works more or less like ours, But it's not true.
Speaker 3: The longer you live, the more people you know, the
Speaker 3: more experience is you have, the more you know that.
Speaker 1: To be.
Speaker 3: Evidently, the fondness for his work, the horror of a
Speaker 3: murder within a family, of the feeling of a personal
Speaker 3: connection because you laughed at some of his absolutely wonderful movies, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't quite get it, but I'm working on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned yesterday during the show, the New York
Speaker 3: Post had eight stories going at the same time, and
Speaker 3: that's similar today, all on the Rob Reiner thing and
Speaker 3: his son. Yeah, the topic of I mean, because this
Speaker 3: is an ongoing problem. This is probably the part of
Speaker 3: the whole homeless street person thing, the ongoing conversation about
Speaker 3: what you do with drug addicts that can't or won't
Speaker 3: get their acts together.
Speaker 1: We that, I mean that that's right there with that family.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, you know, and that really gets
Speaker 3: to the hole. Well, they need rehab. Okay, Well Rob
Speaker 3: Reiner's got more money than but Jesus and the kid
Speaker 3: went to rehab fifteen times, right, some people.
Speaker 1: Is there an answer to that? I don't know that
Speaker 1: there is, Yeah, other than lock people up.
Speaker 3: The pope breaking keep locking them up. If they keep
Speaker 3: breaking the law, keep locking them up. It's probably the
Speaker 3: only hope a guy like that had for the repercussions
Speaker 3: to become so severe that he thought, I can't live
Speaker 3: like this, and and somehow something clicks.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a tough one, but I mean, I'm thinking about
Speaker 3: back to the greater theme, although I'm more than happy
Speaker 3: to talk about that if well, I don't know, if
Speaker 3: like Keith Richards's troubled kid killed him, or one of
Speaker 3: my musical heroes who had brought me so much joy
Speaker 3: through my life, I would think, oh my god, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't need to hear unending details about it.
Speaker 3: I'd figure that's a family horror, a story of drug addiction,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But people seem to have a great
Speaker 3: thirst for it. I guess I don't know at the
Speaker 3: angle of Trump's unbelievable truth social post.
Speaker 1: Blaming Rob Reiner being stabbed.
Speaker 3: To death on his politics, Yeah, yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's it's bizarre. I don't know. You can
Speaker 1: go back ten years.
Speaker 3: The first one Trump did, the very first time, he
Speaker 3: went so far out of bounds of anything anybody'd ever seen,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people thought, oh, okay, well he's done,
Speaker 3: and he was the opposite of done obviously, when he
Speaker 3: said about John McCain, I prefer people who don't get captured.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is so outrageously awful.
Speaker 3: I mean that, and you can't really it's yeah, the
Speaker 3: oturgeousness and the stupidity of it, you can't. You can't
Speaker 3: really top that. So I feel like I've been in
Speaker 3: that zone for a decade now. I mean, that's the
Speaker 3: sort of thing the guy's gonna say, Yeah, it's it's inexplicable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's a way to look at life. Man, if
Speaker 3: you if you become an enemy of that guy, he
Speaker 3: has no uh, there's no gray zone. You were just
Speaker 3: an enemy, no matter what happens to you. Stupid and outrageous, stupid, agous.
Speaker 3: A lot of my favorite columnists and politicians, including many
Speaker 3: many Republicans and conservatives, condemning harshly the truth social post
Speaker 3: from Donald Trump about the killing.
Speaker 1: How could you not? I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 1: do you even say about that?
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, his Justice Department is doing heroic work against dewokism,
Speaker 3: for instance, in our corporations, our institutions. It's fantastic, It's wonderful.
Speaker 3: People could call it paying the Trump tax. You just
Speaker 3: have to put up with his doing crap like that.
Speaker 3: I wish it weren't true, but I wish I had
Speaker 3: a money. I had a minor Twitter spat before I
Speaker 3: realized there's no point getting into Twitter spats with people
Speaker 3: of you know that whole thing. Yeah, just incredible. Trump
Speaker 3: does things that are just outrageously awful. I mean, no
Speaker 3: human beings should do. He said, what kind of a
Speaker 3: precedent to that? What sort of a what's the example?
Speaker 3: What sort of example does that set for anyone to
Speaker 3: act like that. On the other hand, I still am
Speaker 3: so happy he's president as opposed to Kamala. It's not
Speaker 3: even close.
Speaker 1: It's not even close, which is an indictment of our system,
Speaker 1: or our primary or our immortal souls or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm just glad it's
Speaker 3: almost Christmas. The other two big stories that fall behind
Speaker 3: the Rob Reiner murder, even though they're more important, the
Speaker 3: Brown shooting Brown University, I don't think that's got any
Speaker 3: greater significance at all, and it just gets lumped into
Speaker 3: the whole angry, crazy people go out and shoot people thing.
Speaker 1: I suspect, so we'll have to see what it was.
Speaker 1: But I would bet you're right.
Speaker 3: The thing in Australia is such a big deal. And
Speaker 3: like I was listening to NPR today and they're still
Speaker 3: making a gun story about what they can do with
Speaker 3: the gun laws in Australia. Okay, you can tweak the
Speaker 3: gun laws all you want, and we still have rampant
Speaker 3: immigration among fundamentalist Muslims who want to change the countries
Speaker 3: they're going to.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 3: And in Australia, like Britain, like France, like the United States.
Speaker 3: The Jewish people are begging the authorities saying, listen, you
Speaker 3: yourself are reporting on this skyrocketing increase in anti Semitic attacks.
Speaker 1: It is building to something horrific. You need to be
Speaker 1: aware of this. You need to be serious about it, you.
Speaker 3: Need to condemn it, and you need to look hard
Speaker 3: for where it's coming from and what these people are
Speaker 3: trying to do. In Australia, they were crying out for
Speaker 3: that for months and the authorities were like, we don't
Speaker 3: want to inflame in conflicts here, so we're just going
Speaker 3: to solt peddle it. And there's one brilliant, troubling piece
Speaker 3: was entitled, now do you believe us? Yeah? And I
Speaker 3: suppose you always got to throw in the caveat because
Speaker 3: it's absolutely true, tons and tons and tons of Muslims
Speaker 3: around the world don't believe in killing Jews like that.
Speaker 3: The guy that bravely tackled one of the shooters, also
Speaker 3: a Muslim from Syria or wherever, tackled the guy and
Speaker 3: pointed the gun in his face. He didn't want to
Speaker 3: kill Jews. He's horrified by the whole thing, right, But
Speaker 3: there's a man of hero. But there's enough that do
Speaker 3: want to kill Jews and want to want you to
Speaker 3: not get free speech, and want your wife not to
Speaker 3: be able to walk around uncovered, and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people like that. I wish I
Speaker 3: had kept a great piece of thinking. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: remember who it even was who was explaining and this
Speaker 3: was Gosh post nine to eleven, that the never ending
Speaker 3: caveats and disclaimers, and we make them too about you know,
Speaker 3: there are plenty of Muslims who are fine folks, and
Speaker 3: we're not talking about them, he said. The moderate Muslim
Speaker 3: is irrelevant to the discussion because everybody knows it. And
Speaker 3: so let's focus on those who hold the attitudes we're
Speaker 3: talking about. We're talking about Islamists. And if you are
Speaker 3: a devout Muslim, you want Islam installed as a political system.
Speaker 3: Not a sincere Muslim, but a literalist Muslim, a fundamentalist Muslim.
Speaker 3: That's what you want, There's no question. So let's just
Speaker 3: talk about that. These guys had isis flags in their truck,
Speaker 3: and that is the worst of the worst. That makes
Speaker 3: the I think Palestine should have a state should be
Speaker 3: a state is you know, Holy Cow, you joined isis Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of another thing I brought up the
Speaker 3: other day that when Islam hit the modern world and
Speaker 3: a lot of its precepts, you know, never ending conquest,
Speaker 3: pro slavery, murdering anybody who did not convert, that sort
Speaker 3: of thing, when those fundamentals ran up against the modern world,
Speaker 3: they had to have their Protestant moment, as it was called,
Speaker 3: where a certain chunk of Islam went with, all right,
Speaker 3: it's a personal faith, it's in the heart, get right
Speaker 3: with Allah. This kind of you know, akin to some
Speaker 3: of the Old Testament stuff that a Jew or a
Speaker 3: Christian might think, Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to smite
Speaker 3: any hits heights because they're wearing a red dress or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously conflating several things.
Speaker 3: But a lot of people went in that direction, and
Speaker 3: a lot of people went with no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 3: like a fundamentalist Christian might.
Speaker 1: Every word of our Holy Book.
Speaker 3: Is the literal truth, and we must follow it to
Speaker 3: the letter, which, in the case of the Islam is
Speaker 3: foaked with blood and conquest and punishment for unbelievers. And
Speaker 3: so it's that section that we need to worry about. Fine,
Speaker 3: the good folks, Hey, God bless you. I hope you
Speaker 3: have a long and happy life, and I'm happy to
Speaker 3: have you as a neighbor in America. But as fundamentalists,
Speaker 3: that's the problem, man. That's gun loss, gun laws, gun laws,
Speaker 3: gun laws.
Speaker 1: It's just a gun guns say. Let's start to show officially.
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Speaker 2: Those three entities have been getting together over the last
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Speaker 1: And have come to agreements.
Speaker 3: Actually listen to that interview former ambassador or something or
Speaker 3: other that we've I think we've actually even had on
Speaker 3: our show before. He said, does the Americans say we're
Speaker 3: ninety percent there? Do the Russians agree to anything?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: That's what I don't get. Are they I will be
Speaker 3: delighted to find out I'm wrong. I don't believe that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well we do not believe what he said. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: We got Katie's headlines on the way. I hope you
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Speaker 1: You can donate. Yes, indeed. Hohe so much going on
Speaker 1: as usual, probably too much. It's wearing me out. Let's
Speaker 1: figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with
Speaker 1: Katie Dream Katie, and we do have.
Speaker 4: Rob Reiner at the top of all the news sources,
Speaker 4: so we'll start with that. ABC director Rob Reiner and
Speaker 4: wife Michelle stabbed to death, son.
Speaker 1: Arrested for murder. Fox News Rob.
Speaker 4: Reiner's son, Nick's long struggle with addiction comes into focus
Speaker 4: after his parents' deaths and from TMZ, Rob Reiner and
Speaker 4: son Nick had a heated argument at Conan O'Brien's Christmas
Speaker 4: party before the murder.
Speaker 3: Conan O'Brien has a legendary Christmas party. I've picked up
Speaker 3: on that from listening to many celebrity podcasts over the years.
Speaker 3: It's like the big blowout for all your cool celebrities
Speaker 3: every year. Anyway, at the party the other night, father
Speaker 3: and son getting a big argument, and a couple hours later,
Speaker 3: son comes back and kills mom and dad. Katie, you
Speaker 3: have you're known for an earthy, common sense approach to life. Uh,
Speaker 3: why do you think the fascination Is it just that
Speaker 3: he was a big celebrity.
Speaker 1: Why the fascination with the murder?
Speaker 4: I think it's the celebrity aspect and everybody knows who
Speaker 4: he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think. I don't know.
Speaker 4: NBC fear and frustration set in as search for Brown
Speaker 4: University gunman continues.
Speaker 1: I heard him describing him today.
Speaker 3: He's a fat guy with a duck walk and bad posture.
Speaker 1: I found is not helping. It's gonna shoot more.
Speaker 4: People Chimney associated Press. Trump pledges retaliation after three Americans
Speaker 4: are killed in Syria attack that the US blames on ISIS.
Speaker 3: I hope, So, I hope we bomb the crap out
Speaker 3: of some Isis people somewhere.
Speaker 4: From Breitbart, more than one third of Americans are planning
Speaker 4: to spend more than one thousand dollars on holiday gifts.
Speaker 3: Well, with what cost things cost? Now, have you got
Speaker 3: much of a family at all?
Speaker 1: How you'd stay under one thousand dollars?
Speaker 3: From the Wall Street You're just spend two hundred dollars
Speaker 3: if you go to the grocery store.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's a it's a round number and
Speaker 3: an impressive number. But it's like I stopped saying I've
Speaker 3: got my million dollar idea. So what you got a
Speaker 3: million dollar idea?
Speaker 1: Please? Right?
Speaker 3: I did that, And remember I did the inflation calculator
Speaker 3: the other day. A million dollars is what half that?
Speaker 3: In a two thousand? Just in two thousand, the year
Speaker 3: two thousand, right, And it was like a quarter million
Speaker 3: in the late eighties or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. From the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 4: When mom takes over your dating profile, your subtitle is
Speaker 4: burned out singles are letting family members take over their
Speaker 4: profiles on apps like bumble and hinge Wow.
Speaker 1: Hey, try something different. MoMA can't land a gal? Why
Speaker 1: don't you take the reins? Is it that?
Speaker 3: Or is mom saying why don't you have a I
Speaker 3: need a grandchild like gets involved in your bumble to
Speaker 3: try to figure out to get your life.
Speaker 4: Setie finds cell sized robots consent, decide, and move without
Speaker 4: any outside control.
Speaker 1: Cell sized yep wow.
Speaker 4: And finally from the Babylon b After being charged with
Speaker 4: multiple felonies, former Michigan coach forced to move to the NFL.
Speaker 3: Huh, I get it. Send me that article about the
Speaker 3: cell sized robots. I mean you add that with the
Speaker 3: cockroaches with backpack packs that you can steer around.
Speaker 1: We got it. It's a troubling time to be alive.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I've been telling I've been telling you
Speaker 3: about these microdrones forever. They'll fly into a cloud as
Speaker 3: a cloud, ind your lungs, and then explode.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5: The maker of the robot vacuum Rumba, said today that
Speaker 5: it has filed for bankruptcy. Apparently, the whole company got
Speaker 5: themselves into a corner and couldn't get out.
Speaker 3: I only used the first generation room but and it
Speaker 3: was next to worthless.
Speaker 1: So you have claimed that it's got better over the years.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 3: It did, although I stopped using it a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago. I mean, I keep thinking I should go
Speaker 3: back to it and then reprogram it and all, but
Speaker 3: I just haven't. I was thinking about that with tech
Speaker 3: this morning because I was having trouble with my Tesla,
Speaker 3: and like the reason I like Tesla and Apple is
Speaker 3: it almost always does what it's supposed to do and
Speaker 3: I don't have to like figuring out thing out. I
Speaker 3: don't want any tech where I gotta figure something out.
Speaker 3: If I have to figure something out, it ain't worth
Speaker 3: it to me. I just wanted to work the way
Speaker 3: it's supposed to work, and very few tech things do.
Speaker 3: Uh No, Rumbo is that way for me. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: if I pick up absolutely everything and set everything in
Speaker 3: exactly the right spot, it can do its job.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do that, So yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3: I haven't used the new new ones and that sort
Speaker 3: of technology is just leapt forward. Like I know in
Speaker 3: the world the golf automated moors are huge, absolutely huge.
Speaker 3: I don't doubt that it'll get there. I'm sure. I'm
Speaker 3: absolutely certain it will, but I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: there yet. Yeah, rooms with a lot going on, chairs
Speaker 3: and toys of everything.
Speaker 1: You got kids and dogs.
Speaker 3: It's just I haven't speaking of tech is at best Buy.
Speaker 3: I tweeted out a picture this yesterday. I tried on
Speaker 3: the latest generation of the ray band glasses that have
Speaker 3: the tech in them, although I haven't tried the ones
Speaker 3: that have the screen in them yet. You have to
Speaker 3: set up an appointment to do that. They won't let
Speaker 3: you just try that out on your own. You have
Speaker 3: to make an appointment and do like a twenty minute
Speaker 3: they show you how they work.
Speaker 1: Thing. So there's the glasses we've talked about before.
Speaker 3: Our agent uses them all the time, and there's a
Speaker 3: new generation out that supposed to be better. You can
Speaker 3: answer the phone that, you can listen to music, you
Speaker 3: can variety of things with your glasses on, your sunglasses on,
Speaker 3: or your eyeglasses on.
Speaker 1: If you get the prescription.
Speaker 3: But then there's the new one that's got the got
Speaker 3: a little screen in there that people looking at you
Speaker 3: can't see. But you can see it's in one of
Speaker 3: the lenses, and like you can read your texts, and
Speaker 3: you can have directions on there, like if you're walking
Speaker 3: down the street, and various things like that.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Based on the reviews that I've seen, they're eight hundred
Speaker 3: bucks just kind of pricey. But I'll bet the idea
Speaker 3: with these smart glasses is that you won't carry your phone.
Speaker 3: It's going to be the getting away from the phone.
Speaker 3: You don't carry it anymore. Nobody says we're there yet
Speaker 3: on those, but I'll bet that is where we're headed.
Speaker 3: You're gonna wear some sort of glasses. You're not going
Speaker 3: to carry a phone. It's all gonna be in your glasses.
Speaker 3: And that'll be within a couple of years. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: hoping to leave tech behind and move to the woods.
Speaker 3: Like even stuff to make face of old with Walden
Speaker 3: Pond and such.
Speaker 1: Even stuff that makes your life easier.
Speaker 3: I don't want to if it, like I said, if
Speaker 3: it doesn't work to way it's supposed to work, first try,
Speaker 3: I ain't doing it. I don't want harder. I don't
Speaker 3: want my life to get more complicated. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get into a manual. I don't have to be
Speaker 3: on the line.
Speaker 1: With the with the it.
Speaker 3: It's just got to work immediately, like most Apple stuff does,
Speaker 3: like the TESTA stuff does. But but if it makes
Speaker 3: your life easier, I'm pro you know. Yeah, I'm not exactly,
Speaker 3: but I have the luxury of being in the part
Speaker 3: of my life since my kids are grown, of seeking simplicity,
Speaker 3: whereas you don't really have that luxury with your kids
Speaker 3: and their lives and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: So I know, your life is pretty simple.
Speaker 3: If you're sitting there with your glasses on and a
Speaker 3: text comes in and you tap your fingers together and say,
Speaker 3: and you just read it, then you respond to it,
Speaker 3: don't have to get out your phone, don't have to
Speaker 3: do anything.
Speaker 1: It seems pretty simple. You're dancing to the tune of
Speaker 1: your screen.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow. Are you going to give it out texting?
Speaker 3: Are you going to go full Walden Pond? No, I'm
Speaker 3: just going to give up being plugged in all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing what I'm doing and not
Speaker 3: dividing my attention with technology. But this would be the
Speaker 3: same amount of texting you're doing now in an easier
Speaker 3: manner without getting in my doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, am I doing a bad job of explaining myself, Katie?
Speaker 1: Do you think or what? No? No, I think you're fine.
Speaker 4: I think that the point of trying this, trying to
Speaker 4: get you away from your phone is crap because you're
Speaker 4: just putting your phone on your face.
Speaker 3: Well right, And my point is all of that s
Speaker 3: is going to be over there and I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be paying any attention to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mountain man, more or less, and you'll be.
Speaker 3: I'm absolutely convinced that is the route to better mental
Speaker 3: health and happiness.
Speaker 1: Whittling and writing poetry would be the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a poetry about whittling. Yes, the once was a
Speaker 3: man who could whittle.
Speaker 1: Right, don't don't get me started.
Speaker 3: Let's see spittle George Kittle, little little theos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm trying to avoid the obvious.
Speaker 3: H oh oh, breaking breaking not exactly news. This is
Speaker 3: what everybody's going to be talking about. It just broke
Speaker 3: in the New York Times minutes ago. Susie Wiles, the
Speaker 3: White House Chief of Staff, evidently sat down for eleven
Speaker 3: interviews with either Peter Baker or the New York Times
Speaker 3: or him and his team and the quote unquote highlights.
Speaker 3: The things she went ahead and said are unfreaking believable
Speaker 3: given the fact that she's still in the gig. This
Speaker 3: is like they've been out of office two years and
Speaker 3: she writes her book, mister Trump has an alcoholics personality.
Speaker 1: Didn't I say that just a week ago? You did?
Speaker 3: He's an untreated alcoholic. I've thought that for years. Ah,
Speaker 3: could he give the nickel version for folks who because
Speaker 3: he doesn't drink, he's never drank, his brother drank himself
Speaker 3: to death. Those of us in the world of alcoholism,
Speaker 3: most of us don't believe the drinking has very little
Speaker 3: to do with being an alcoholic. It's a it's one
Speaker 3: of the many symptoms of being an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: You're either are or you aren't.
Speaker 3: And it's got to do with the way your brain works,
Speaker 3: in the way you look at the world and your
Speaker 3: relationship to it. Fair Enough, Okay, And he and since
Speaker 3: he's got since he's got it in his family and
Speaker 3: his brother drank himself to death, it makes it fairly
Speaker 3: likely he certainly has an obsessive Well, I don't know
Speaker 3: how you and I don't know much about that concept,
Speaker 3: so I'll let you choose the words, but anyway, so
Speaker 3: she said that Vice President J. D. Vans has quote
Speaker 3: been a conspiracy theorist for a decade, and his conversion
Speaker 3: from Trump critic ally was based not on principle, but
Speaker 3: was sort of political because as he's running for the Senate.
Speaker 3: Elon Musk is quote an avowed ketamine user who's an odd,
Speaker 3: odd duck whose actions were not always rational and left
Speaker 3: her aghast Russell t Vaught, the budget director is a
Speaker 3: right wing absolute zealot. Attorney General Pam Bondi completely whiffed
Speaker 3: in handling the Epstein files, among other quotes.
Speaker 1: This is very, very long, but.
Speaker 3: This is like when one of those tell all books
Speaker 3: comes out and everybody goes to the index immediately to
Speaker 3: see if they're mentioned in it, and then Washington goes
Speaker 3: wild over it for a couple of.
Speaker 1: Weeks or whatever. So far, she's in the gig right now.
Speaker 3: So far those all sound incredibly accurate. Most of them
Speaker 3: are negative, except I don't think the one on Elon
Speaker 3: is negative. Yes, he's an on duck. I'm glad he's
Speaker 3: an on duck. He's doing all kinds of things because
Speaker 3: he's a nod duck. Yeah, let's see sheerage mister Trump
Speaker 3: not to pardon the most violent riders from jan six,
Speaker 3: but which he did. Anyway, I agree with her on
Speaker 3: that she unsuccessfully tried to get him to delay his
Speaker 3: major tariffs because of huge disagreements among his advisors. She
Speaker 3: said the administration needs to quote look harder at deportations
Speaker 3: to prevent mistakes. But she did not complain about being overruled,
Speaker 3: and at various points she got on board with the
Speaker 3: eventual decisions. There have been a couple of times where
Speaker 3: I've been out voted, she said. And if there's a tie,
Speaker 3: he wins. Sounds like the you know, description of the
Speaker 3: job she has. Sure, anyway, they'll be buzzing about this
Speaker 3: all day, certainly in all week. Yeah, it's interesting that
Speaker 3: she said that about her boss. Though about Donald Yeah,
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm reminded that she grew up with
Speaker 3: an alcoholic father, the great sportscaster Pat Summer All. Oh
Speaker 3: did did Pat summerl get sober at some point? Or
Speaker 3: was he drinking clear up to the end? I remember
Speaker 3: late in his career. You remember the infamous Super Bowl clip? Yeah, Michael,
Speaker 3: do we still have that? That was just being old though,
Speaker 3: wasn't it.
Speaker 1: I have to look at and.
Speaker 3: There are games where people believe he was drunk though
Speaker 3: where he sounded drunk. Well, hey, you're watching a football game.
Speaker 3: You have a couple of beers through the math. Even
Speaker 3: most your viewers are drunk. We're all drunk together. You're
Speaker 3: gonna be a judge put on a row, right huh. Anyway,
Speaker 3: that's enough of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting.
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Speaker 1: So according to New.
Speaker 3: York Times, the negotiations that went on all weekend and
Speaker 3: then including yesterday, with Zelensky, European leaders and even Trump
Speaker 3: getting on the phone at various times to get involved
Speaker 3: in the meeting, the United States, Ukraine, and Europe have
Speaker 3: agreed on a NATO like guarantee for the security of Ukraine.
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I can't believe this isn't bigger news, two US officials
Speaker 3: said yesterday as they tried to come up with a
Speaker 3: peace proposal that would deter future aggression and still satisfied Russia.
Speaker 3: Now they haven't agreed on the whole land things. Lensky
Speaker 3: doesn't want to give up some chunks of land. Trump says, look,
Speaker 3: they're going to take the land eventually. Anyway, you should
Speaker 3: give it up. I don't know how they're gonna work
Speaker 3: that out, But to me, the bigger thing is we're
Speaker 3: involved in a security guarantee, like we'll go to war
Speaker 3: with Russia.
Speaker 1: If they invade again. We're just gonna have that on
Speaker 1: paper at something that's got to be a Senate ratified treaty,
Speaker 1: doesn't it.
Speaker 3: The United States, Ukraine, and Europe have agreed on a
Speaker 3: NATO lak. I have no idea. I don't know enough
Speaker 3: about that. But many European countries have said they will
Speaker 3: put troops in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're going to put troops in there.
Speaker 3: But if we're before signed on to some sort of
Speaker 3: agreement that if Russia comes back again, we're in Wow.
Speaker 3: Where does an agreement end and a treaty begin and
Speaker 3: Senate ratification become necessary?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: President's Lensky, I'd want to look into that, make sure
Speaker 3: it's an agreement that holds. Yeah, agreed, of course we
Speaker 3: might be you know, true, the Euros might be saying
Speaker 3: we'll throw troops in and we're just saying, yeah, well, absolutely,
Speaker 3: give you all the arms and whatever.
Speaker 1: But I suppose it could be.
Speaker 3: For instance, France, Germany and Great Britain are going to
Speaker 3: have troops in Ukraine, and if they were attacked, I
Speaker 3: suppose our NATO guarantee kicks in at that point. Maybe
Speaker 3: I mean German NAT lots of NATO troops are being attacked. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: well yeah, it's funny. I don't think I printed it,
Speaker 3: but one of our beloved listeners, one of you clever folks, said,
Speaker 3: NATO just needs to invade Ukraine under some idiotic pretext
Speaker 3: with the Zelenski's permission, have troops all over the place
Speaker 3: and then say yeah, yeah, we invaded better you did,
Speaker 3: it's ours now and wait for.
Speaker 1: The dust to settle. Wow, what an interesting idea.
Speaker 3: NATO invades Ukraine, takes Kiev using my finger quotes right,
Speaker 3: but lets them just operate as they've been operating. But
Speaker 3: and instead of fighting tooth and nail, the Ukrainians would say, yeah,
Speaker 3: you need to go to the stop sign and take
Speaker 3: a left, and that's where they would help. And Naty
Speaker 3: would just say, this is NATO territory, well right, or
Speaker 3: our troops are here. Attack on one is an attack
Speaker 3: on all, so you got to stop attacking. Wow, I
Speaker 3: don't know where this is going. Pretty interesting though. We
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Speaker 3: Billy and Marina del Rey just thought of a simple
Speaker 3: solution to the Russia Ukraine were Ukraine problem, NATO or
Speaker 3: the EU should just invade Ukraine over some silly issue.
Speaker 3: Ukraine then surrenders to NATO or the EU. NATO, EU
Speaker 3: then refuses to remove whatever military stuff they brought into Ukraine.
Speaker 1: You're a thing. You're an innovator, Billy. I like the
Speaker 1: aggressiveness of it.
Speaker 3: So far, everything with Russia has been like backfooted shrinking,
Speaker 3: hoping they won't go further, and that.
Speaker 1: Has not worked over the last decade. Somebody needs to
Speaker 1: say it. Blah blah blah YadA, YadA YadA. World War three.
Speaker 1: Ryan from Houston writes, I don't need a troll president
Speaker 1: to a president Trump wrote about Rob Ryaner's undefendable Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's tons of TDS and if Trump died by whatever manner,
Speaker 1: there would be champagne popping from coast to coast. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't make Trump the good guy here. You know
Speaker 1: what's wild.
Speaker 3: This is obvious, but I didn't think about it until
Speaker 3: they pointed it out on one of those news shows
Speaker 3: I was watching this morning.
Speaker 1: The guy got shot.
Speaker 3: The whole You know, everything's changed. Trump's got a different
Speaker 3: outlook on life since he got shot. Apparently not he
Speaker 3: got shot. He's been on the other end of political violence,
Speaker 3: and he's still willing to say stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done with the troll president. Hope that soon
Speaker 3: we can have a president of the United States. But
Speaker 3: I'm more likely to win the power ball tomorrow. While
Speaker 3: Marshall Phillips does his tenth push up in Jack says
Speaker 3: something nice about Dominic. That's Ryan from Houston. He asked, Jack,
Speaker 3: smart glasses just another step to old fancy Jack. That's
Speaker 3: been Ryan's theme of late old simple Jack is old
Speaker 3: fancy Jack. But on the Trump thing, so, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't quite get the Yeah, like I said, going
Speaker 3: back to his comment on John McCain, he says awful,
Speaker 3: horrible things. I think there's something wrong with his personality. Yes,
Speaker 3: and I would rather he was president than the alternative.
Speaker 3: The alternative we were giving we're given, we weren't given
Speaker 3: Ron de Santis as a choice. Yeah, right, so true,
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Speaker 3: JB and Florida says, I don't know how you can
Speaker 3: do what you do day after day, five days a week.
Speaker 3: If I get overwhelmed by any of the topics you're discussing,
Speaker 3: I can just turn off the radio. But you guys
Speaker 3: have to keep trudging through the never ending bad news
Speaker 3: from around the world. He goes into the older you get,
Speaker 3: the less tolerance you have for the daily drama, and
Speaker 3: then he suggests that we just do Monday through Thursday
Speaker 3: and have Michael play best of shows on Friday. I'm
Speaker 3: sure your listeners would rather have you four days a
Speaker 3: week than not at all due to burnout.
Speaker 1: You're a very perceptive person. JB.
Speaker 3: That's the old nineteen eighties Johnny Carson schedule that he
Speaker 3: did later in his career. I think actually he took
Speaker 3: a Monday's end, Fridays off. He worked at the grueling
Speaker 3: three day work week. Yeah, I don't mind telling people.
Speaker 3: I lobbied that this contract that we're working on right now,
Speaker 3: we do a three hour show and not a four
Speaker 3: hour show. It's a lot, and burnout is not a well,
Speaker 3: it's a real thing. But I was persuaded we don't
Speaker 3: have to talk about all the nastiness of the world
Speaker 3: though nobody makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's just no.
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Speaker 3: don't have time for this. But Tom, who was a
Speaker 3: National Guardsman, was extremely offended by our conversation about the
Speaker 3: National guard. I think there may have been a bit
Speaker 3: of a misinterpretation.
Speaker 1: Tom.
Speaker 3: What we were trying to say is we don't think
Speaker 3: most people think of the National Guard in terms of
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Speaker 1: Well, my brother was in the Guard for years.
Speaker 3: Tell me what the guy was angry about, because I'm
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Speaker 3: had a family member who did it for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we don't have time in thirty seconds to lay
Speaker 3: it out then respond.
Speaker 1: To it, but we can. We absolutely can because it's
Speaker 1: a good topic. Let's see.
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