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Speaker 1: Why would happen? You know why? I truly don't. If
Speaker 1: you see the title of this episode, you know that
Speaker 1: Alaska and will around. We'll bring them in a second.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep their mouth shut for right now, because
Speaker 1: right now I have to talk to you because you
Speaker 1: said hi with six passive regraphs of eyes. And then
Speaker 1: are you coming to the studio today like I would
Speaker 1: ever miss? Because I saw you tweeting about your dad
Speaker 1: like some folks the anecdote about my dad said this
Speaker 1: as they went into the shower, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: is he still long on Long Island? Coming in for
Speaker 1: this Alaska Willam episode? God Forbid. I go home on
Speaker 1: Labor Day, which of course celebrates work. To go celebrate
Speaker 1: these days off with my beloved family, God Forbid, and
Speaker 1: my sister and her and her lovely boyfriend Peter. We
Speaker 1: have back to back bookings, and I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that you weren't gonna leave me. No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't miss this for the world. This is uh, this
Speaker 1: is truly a big one. This. Would you consider yourself
Speaker 1: a race chaser? I'm a race chaser. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: for the right girl. I'm a race chaser for all
Speaker 1: the girls. Okay, every girl, every every girl, I would,
Speaker 1: fuck you think every single one I'm gonna do, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do in the awkward eye I'm getting out William's
Speaker 1: William's furious. Okay, well William doesn't consent, so that's fine,
Speaker 1: So then William's off the list. But i mean every girl,
Speaker 1: someone out there, someone out there is enough of a
Speaker 1: race you would name all of them, all of them
Speaker 1: would suck all the But I'm saying someone out there
Speaker 1: is actually like hell bent on doing that. You think
Speaker 1: that there's someone that's got a list, Yeah, well, let
Speaker 1: me let's bring them in. So they ring them in. Okay,
Speaker 1: what are their shared credits? I mean, whoa where do
Speaker 1: you even start? The recording artists, they're authors, they're well,
Speaker 1: they're the host of on this very network. Okay, let's sucking,
Speaker 1: you know. Get let's let's h p A is here
Speaker 1: right now, not h p J A. H app for
Speaker 1: Alex is here. So we should satisfy that requirement and
Speaker 1: say that. They host the podcast Race Chaser on the
Speaker 1: Rever Doug podcast Network. Yes, each episode they dig into
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes. Starting from season one, episode one
Speaker 1: of RuPaul's drag Race to get into the tea, the
Speaker 1: production tease. True, I couldn't come up with a better term.
Speaker 1: Season four of Drag Rays Honny. Season five of Drag
Speaker 1: Rays Honey, All Stars to Drag Race, which, like I mean,
Speaker 1: and they just they just killed at wig Stock last night.
Speaker 1: Were you there? No, we weren't there, but we assume
Speaker 1: you did kill. We saw some instagram, we saw the videos.
Speaker 1: Huh huh. Anyway, it's our pleasure. What was at home
Speaker 1: on Labor Day with my beloved family. I have to
Speaker 1: also say I'm very excited to get into One of
Speaker 1: our guests today is going to be in the motion
Speaker 1: picture of End of the Year, absolutely talking about it.
Speaker 1: And she books, and she famously books, and she famously books.
Speaker 1: Please welcome La and it's bell I. But I don't
Speaker 1: correct people anymore, as long as run on the check. Okay,
Speaker 1: we we will be writing a chat. No, you're not
Speaker 1: getting I want a venmo now, now how much four
Speaker 1: dollars grab to me? Okay? Oh wait, did you get
Speaker 1: a task grabber for this hoverboard rabbit? It didn't work.
Speaker 1: I just shoved in. They said, you need to want
Speaker 1: to reformulate your chast seems a little hard. I said,
Speaker 1: we wanted a bag of clothes dropped off in Manhattan
Speaker 1: and i've howeverboard dropped off in Brooklyn. How hard is
Speaker 1: sucking that? Well hard? How where then do you find
Speaker 1: a hoverboard? And why do you need? She had it here?
Speaker 1: She just needed to be brought from here to there.
Speaker 1: It's like the easiest tas people build shelves and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's true. I mean I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: building a shelf that straightforward is hoverboard like your preferred
Speaker 1: method of travel? No, you wanted it for a show.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I said. I saw will and put
Speaker 1: this ask out on instat because usually people are nice
Speaker 1: and then let my bar them. But they're illegal in
Speaker 1: New York. Now I guess you're pedestrian hounds. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I can't find you on then. I hate you. I
Speaker 1: hate you. Fuck. I was gonna do it. What mode
Speaker 1: you were going to put a little microfilt, maybe like um,
Speaker 1: a little a grass hill William? Yeah? Because William spent
Speaker 1: the night in a green space yesterday? Yeah, some guy
Speaker 1: in a park. Great where Now this was like not
Speaker 1: a grinder situation, wasn't okay? There were so many great
Speaker 1: dancers at Workstock, why not some of them? But this
Speaker 1: was when you knew beforehand. Oh no, you just didn't
Speaker 1: meet through the app. Oh he knew my hand, he
Speaker 1: knew your hand. William is good with these just these
Speaker 1: assists that you don't even know you're throwing at him.
Speaker 1: This is a pro. This is a pro, this is
Speaker 1: a pro. Okay, wow, do we just start pro? I
Speaker 1: am should we these not? Wait? I thought you're talking
Speaker 1: ab a listen, not a professionals for everything? Rude to people,
Speaker 1: people's time, it's worth something, and if you're late, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that it shows disrespect for other people and her schedules.
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, he's a great performer. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see your Netflix show. But be respectful of
Speaker 1: your other fucking people addressing room. Fuck you bitch. Sure,
Speaker 1: So here we go. We're getting into it. Start my
Speaker 1: day and the fans don't say, oh the meat and
Speaker 1: greets after the show now instead of before when there's
Speaker 1: a venue Kirkley at the club and the promoter has
Speaker 1: to eat that and she doesn't give a fuck she
Speaker 1: miss flights. Fuck her? Yeah, but before I used to
Speaker 1: like her. Now I don't know you do you not
Speaker 1: like her because of what you're saying? I don't like
Speaker 1: her because she got in a fight with me and
Speaker 1: she accused my friend of filming her in a dressing
Speaker 1: room when he was playing a Pokemon game. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't trust you, want none of your homies. He's
Speaker 1: probably filming right now. And I was like, how dare you?
Speaker 1: I grabbed this phone. I was like, Cameral nothing, he's
Speaker 1: playing Pokemon. She's like, well, I don't trust you and
Speaker 1: none of you' all. You know, I'm just an asset.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you saw my tweet where
Speaker 1: I said you're an asset the World of Wonder and
Speaker 1: that's the only reason you tied that one lip sync
Speaker 1: with Roxy when Roxy should have one for with my
Speaker 1: hair because they were pushing you through. And that's fine.
Speaker 1: They were pushing through a great investment. She's talented, she's funny,
Speaker 1: she's got that hit factor. But I have this feeling
Speaker 1: about her where I'm like, if you're not respect for
Speaker 1: the other people in the industry, fuck you girl. And
Speaker 1: I did say an asset is not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: It's just a technically, she is an asset. They put
Speaker 1: a lot of money into. They got her own show assets, likeness,
Speaker 1: future digital assets. I'm gonna send you how they signed
Speaker 1: this NBA real quick. That's my feelings on her, and
Speaker 1: I don't mind pulling straws because everybody knows it's true.
Speaker 1: She's late and we all don't talk about it because
Speaker 1: she still sells tickets. She's a great performer, lover. She
Speaker 1: is a you know, but disrespectful as you did say
Speaker 1: that you hate me earlier. Yeah, because you're disrespectful because
Speaker 1: I am disrespected. You're incredibly disrespectful to me in my time. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's the thing, Um, Courtney, I'm Courtney act No, Courtney,
Speaker 1: you can never be How do you know what is
Speaker 1: that whistle tones? I'm a better singer than Courtney. You
Speaker 1: get a four active range? Yeah? I have a four
Speaker 1: couple of active range. Four I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: that's been castrated. Uh twenty four hours. Wow, Um, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my stars. Okay wait wait, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not getting into stars Born. We're getting into so
Speaker 1: right now, we've already the whistles being blown on Alissa
Speaker 1: adverage this there you go here, Gortney. So wait, this
Speaker 1: is interesting to me though, that you guys host this
Speaker 1: podcast together because we have for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 1: like pretty much like the straight a student of drag Race.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, you fuck my drag. But you,
Speaker 1: like they talk about, you're like the Lebron James of
Speaker 1: drag Race. In anyways, for all the straight listeners whenever,
Speaker 1: I like when we had you guys on Clustrofest, they
Speaker 1: like the people that didn't watch drag Race, they wanted
Speaker 1: to know, like what what the situation was with like
Speaker 1: Alaska and Drinks being there. I was like, Alaska is
Speaker 1: like the Lebron James of RuPaul's Drags, And they were like,
Speaker 1: not just she's crossed over now she's on shark Nado,
Speaker 1: She's on UM, She's the Lebron dreams about straight She's
Speaker 1: done all the reality shows stared straight from You're Gonna Do,
Speaker 1: You're Gonna Do, Stars Born to God and Stars Red
Speaker 1: and then and then William is like one of the
Speaker 1: most memorable contestants ever. And but it's interesting that that
Speaker 1: you guys are doing this together where you're like you
Speaker 1: are whistleblowing in this way that is refreshing and necessary
Speaker 1: and wonderful. But like, what if what a fun tension
Speaker 1: I'm ship stirring? I mean it sound right. She's the
Speaker 1: bad girl and I'm the good girl, and that that
Speaker 1: give and take I think is important to like why
Speaker 1: the show is exciting. I listened to it. Do you
Speaker 1: guys listen to your own well? I listened back to
Speaker 1: make sure that we don't say anything to my own podcast.
Speaker 1: How dare you? I'm like you. I listened to it, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I listened every now and he's he's stirring right now
Speaker 1: with me. He's talking to you. You're I'm tal that
Speaker 1: I'm talking to him. Have you colamorous Monique do alexah?
Speaker 1: My god, it's the best thing ever. I will show
Speaker 1: it to you after this, you will die colamorous Monique
Speaker 1: doing Alexa. Okay, I'm not gonna talk to you, my god. Wait,
Speaker 1: let me ask you because because there's been some there's
Speaker 1: been some rumors, let's call them us. Is there any
Speaker 1: conjecture about All Stars four? Has it been filmed? I
Speaker 1: haven't heard of that. You don't don't choose now to stop? Wait?
Speaker 1: What did I do? Just like? Are you calling me
Speaker 1: a polygon? Yes? You already? It's actually real culture number
Speaker 1: fourteen Willem is a polygon? What number was that number?
Speaker 1: Two fourteen. Okay, first of all, Kelly Joe who Kelly
Speaker 1: Brisco Who's who? Then is Kelly? She runs this fan
Speaker 1: Twitter account of for for the podcast Rules of Culture.
Speaker 1: We just make them up on the fly. G we're
Speaker 1: at fourteen point five right now. I believe there's five.
Speaker 1: Always four. That's that's your default number anyway, So good
Speaker 1: note for me a quiz after this? Okay, so what
Speaker 1: do you want to ask them about it? Okay, so listen, right,
Speaker 1: if we go on to Reddit and if we go
Speaker 1: onto YouTube and those those things that they're telling us,
Speaker 1: can we find the truth out there? Um? Are those
Speaker 1: things reliable as they stand right now? No? No, anytime
Speaker 1: you watch those YouTube clips that are like season eleven
Speaker 1: confirms confirmed, it's that I movie Stuffy The direct tangles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the strike Direct confirmed her social media stuff for t
Speaker 1: we hasn't been seen in years. If you're always wrong,
Speaker 1: Season six, they said Bianco went home first, that was
Speaker 1: all the rumors, and that that was a correctly, it
Speaker 1: was very incorrect. What were you about to say? I
Speaker 1: forgot you started twice, bitch. Um. Oh, if you want
Speaker 1: to know the real two, you have to get in
Speaker 1: a group message with me god Um Alaska's boyfriend. Alaska
Speaker 1: is not in it and a tutor to the stars
Speaker 1: who shall remain nameless. I love him. He gave me
Speaker 1: address once. He's so nice. Um. I think that Reddit
Speaker 1: is sometimes right, sometimes wrong, but they do get they
Speaker 1: do get whiffs of things. I'm gonna I try. My
Speaker 1: rule is to not spoil um, not spoil anyone else's
Speaker 1: success or down for I'll take down my career, but
Speaker 1: nobody else's. But this year on All Stars, I am
Speaker 1: offended that they did do something that directly copies a
Speaker 1: project I just did last year with two of my
Speaker 1: best friends. And you'll see what it is. It's a
Speaker 1: girl group challenge. I was just in a girl group
Speaker 1: and it's about a certain beloved member of drag Race.
Speaker 1: And I was like, they're going to do that right
Speaker 1: after us. Good luck I mean good luck, bitch, because
Speaker 1: we slayd that the video was sickening. The song was
Speaker 1: to think we look like blonde slut angels from sucking
Speaker 1: Satan's little backyard. That we were gorgeous, I know, because
Speaker 1: the outfits were mostly mine. Um, like, we look lovely,
Speaker 1: and they ripped it off. They didn't rip it off.
Speaker 1: Great minds think alike. But I was like, that's really
Speaker 1: close to our idea. Guys, like, get your own content.
Speaker 1: I'm right across the street. I'm not mad about it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wait to see it. Sure, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: try to make it, Maybe they'll reshoot that episode. So
Speaker 1: where do you guys get that to you? Like the
Speaker 1: girls come back and they say, this is what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's an underground railroad between World of
Speaker 1: Wonder in my home. I see it's gorgeous. Um okay,
Speaker 1: well then, and this is not like a question I have, beautiful.
Speaker 1: This is not a question I'm asking as a way
Speaker 1: to be like, so, there's not there's nothing to that
Speaker 1: thing of you posting on Twitter about them. See that's
Speaker 1: why I asked what I said. I was like, what
Speaker 1: did I specifically respond to it? I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: it Maybe it's like to do with Valentina, like I
Speaker 1: don't even stop it. I don't even know what you're talking.
Speaker 1: Follow you don't follow me. I just did a product
Speaker 1: campagn with Sarah Paulson. You don't follow me. She said
Speaker 1: that was so funny. She said what Violet was talking
Speaker 1: to caught you on Fashion Photo Review. They were filling
Speaker 1: in and um, Sara Paulson came up and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I just did a product campaign with her
Speaker 1: and caught you looked at her, given up down and
Speaker 1: she went, what Andy, do you not follow me? And
Speaker 1: it was just so strange. I was like, no, Violet, sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't follow. I don't know wow, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if I followed. I vis someone stopped making me talk. No,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask and not. It's a way to
Speaker 1: be like say something like uncouth, but like I don't
Speaker 1: the way to naw. There's no possible way to navigate
Speaker 1: the reddit nonsense now because there's no rules to it.
Speaker 1: Like everyone, there's no way to win with with those
Speaker 1: people stopped, I felt there. I don't go in there anymore.
Speaker 1: It was doing bad things for me. Sorry, I unfavored it.
Speaker 1: But one big comments section are the ones for me,
Speaker 1: The ones that love you will show up at your
Speaker 1: shows and you'll get everything that you need. The comments
Speaker 1: sections is just like hoping for the best and then
Speaker 1: you stumblest on something and you're like God, and then
Speaker 1: you're like, I can't fight every battle, so let me
Speaker 1: just walk away. And just to be on the other
Speaker 1: side of this and just I've just like left comments
Speaker 1: to be like I liked, I liked, you know, Monai
Speaker 1: exchange this episode and people will just calm down on
Speaker 1: you with like the most invective bullshit and you're like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Like what the fund is wrong? Am I
Speaker 1: an idiot? If I can't figure read it out? I
Speaker 1: don't know what how you do it? Like, it's like
Speaker 1: I don't I try. Like there's a couple of times
Speaker 1: I've tried to go on there and it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh god, I don't even have tumbler figured out. I
Speaker 1: just hit reblog. Yeah, there you go, just reblog. People
Speaker 1: are Yeah, the tumbler queens are still out there. The
Speaker 1: tumbler queens are out there. Well, if you're sipping honey,
Speaker 1: just straight up, yeah, my throat is I felt like
Speaker 1: I can have a blows up to a weed worker.
Speaker 1: You may have very much lama, I bet go get
Speaker 1: it checked. Is this from the strenuous activities at wig
Speaker 1: Stock or post wig Stock. I was notified I might
Speaker 1: have chlamenia because someone said they had it, but they
Speaker 1: had it in their throat and I didn't touch her. Throat.
Speaker 1: I only stuck their dick. They blew me a little too,
Speaker 1: but like you're not gonna get anything from me. Um,
Speaker 1: I wasn't active. I know, I was good, and I
Speaker 1: just got to trusted and treated for it. One's two
Speaker 1: months ago I had it. Then what are the chances?
Speaker 1: What are the chances? But you still might have it? Whatever,
Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm just saying, Yeah, what's the deal with
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris? Was he? Was he cool? Yeah? She's great,
Speaker 1: she's great. She was in drag. She got into drag
Speaker 1: at the end to close out the show with headwig
Speaker 1: beautiful and then and then oh and the band performance
Speaker 1: described it looked like the crowd was amazing, Like that's
Speaker 1: the way it appeared. I'm glad. I was at home
Speaker 1: with my beloved family and your girlfriend and her brother,
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, her friend's father. Okay, So then what do
Speaker 1: you guys do at this point when like someone books
Speaker 1: you to do that kind of show. You drop in
Speaker 1: and you're like, I Am just going to pull out
Speaker 1: like an old repertory piece, or then are you just like,
Speaker 1: let me make something special for this. I wanted to
Speaker 1: do something a little special. Yeah, yeah, so I had
Speaker 1: my friend Nick. I was like, I'm busy and I
Speaker 1: need you to do something special so to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And so he like choreographed a little a little shimmy,
Speaker 1: a little shake. It was really fine. Just Nick Laughlin.
Speaker 1: We've met next several times episodes with him at Barracouta. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he's one of the straw being extraordinary bull carry. But
Speaker 1: Nick was up. But Nick is always Nicks took a
Speaker 1: good presence. Nick is not she is. Nick is chaotic good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get rid. I got called chaotic evil once I say
Speaker 1: you're chaotic neutral. I was in the middle box, the
Speaker 1: box to the side, Chadock neutral. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: okay because you're because it's like it's like you said,
Speaker 1: you're doing harm but only twrs so star like like
Speaker 1: you said self proclaims. I don't understand what it was,
Speaker 1: but I like the picture that you use evil good.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're you're good good Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: lawful good Nick. Nick backstage yesterday was like Alaska just
Speaker 1: told me about this Sunday. I was like, fine, I'll
Speaker 1: whip something up last minute. I was like, girl, this
Speaker 1: is so fun. You have time. You have these moves
Speaker 1: up your ass like she's good. And then Lee is
Speaker 1: like a little Broadway boy. I was like, so your
Speaker 1: Broadway girl. He was like Mormon, this this work. I
Speaker 1: was like burning it out, resume odd legal, what on you? Girl?
Speaker 1: You know your your dancers were slick. She went right,
Speaker 1: She went on after me, and I was so fucked up.
Speaker 1: You did something special for this too, shaved you shipped out. Um,
Speaker 1: oh my god, legends walk among Oh my god, what Jackie?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wiggled in a six thirteen ties beehive.
Speaker 1: This is wait, Jackie Beat to Jackie students happening? Is this?
Speaker 1: Is this like hoverboard delivery? What's happening? She's the tast
Speaker 1: she's the test graphing, she's the task. Grab news right
Speaker 1: about this? Oh my god, Fox News right about the Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jackie Beat, Hi, how are you after stock? How is
Speaker 1: wig stock for you guys? Have the wound field? Was wigs?
Speaker 1: That like a was it an all day thing? It
Speaker 1: was all day. It was sixty performer an event, uh
Speaker 1: three acts. Bunny hosted the whole thing. She did. She
Speaker 1: had like seven costume changes. It was like Anne Hathaway
Speaker 1: at the Oscars. Because the most famous costume changes are
Speaker 1: of course and Hathaway. At the Oscars, everyone everyone remembers them.
Speaker 1: I prefer and Ivy Winters. That revealed number. It's sick,
Speaker 1: sickening stars. Where has she been? I agree with you, girl,
Speaker 1: she's been knning her own jams andating her own wigs,
Speaker 1: do everything. I was surprised, y'all just missed that t
Speaker 1: what she even later? Girl, if you're not fat, you're right?
Speaker 1: If when you go fishing, do you catch all the fish? Nope, Nope, nope, nope. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I want to ask you, will um like
Speaker 1: what prompted the whole I phone note screenshot moment from
Speaker 1: June where you just like when you just like you
Speaker 1: decided to say what really went went went down? Like
Speaker 1: when about when you left the show? You kind of
Speaker 1: finally lest we asked, oh Leslie Jones asked, asked, that's right.
Speaker 1: And it has been five years and I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of her, and I was like, if she's in the dark,
Speaker 1: let me fill in. And I was like, these are
Speaker 1: all the Specifically, I've never gone into specifics because I've
Speaker 1: always saying I've always said in my interview that I
Speaker 1: got in trouble for with Wow on the sign off
Speaker 1: on the Dirty dot Com. I always said telling everything
Speaker 1: that happened would make production look bad and me look bad,
Speaker 1: so I didn't want to say it, and I didn't
Speaker 1: need to. I just said I broke rules, and that's
Speaker 1: what they gave them. But like stupid little things like
Speaker 1: not feeding us right, or treating us poorly, not knowing
Speaker 1: our names, having us on glass honestly, and I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not hard up to say these things because they
Speaker 1: all happened, and future girls in the in the future
Speaker 1: were treated better now. The girls that went back for
Speaker 1: All Stars were treated a lot lovelier than at first,
Speaker 1: because we have a standard where people and you can't
Speaker 1: work us fourteen hours and say here's six dollars each
Speaker 1: to go eat at a place. You know that you
Speaker 1: can't even get a meal, and we don't have our
Speaker 1: own money with have our ship on us. They're not
Speaker 1: getting I get worked up because I treat people I
Speaker 1: work with the way I want to be treated. I
Speaker 1: had to learn my voice. Sorry, I get worked up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, let me explain it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: anything big. These people make a great TV show that
Speaker 1: I love but these are the things that went wrong,
Speaker 1: and they weren't apologetic about him, and they've kind of, um,
Speaker 1: there's this guy there that the company is kind of
Speaker 1: not sleut shame me, but like we fucked and then
Speaker 1: like they made it look like a bad thing that
Speaker 1: I said something about it. When he treated me like
Speaker 1: a ship head, I was like, I don't owe you anything.
Speaker 1: I was on a TV show with you and you
Speaker 1: were rudeus fuck to me after fuck you. You let
Speaker 1: your friends trash me by girl, and then you treated
Speaker 1: a friend of mine the way I didn't like. So
Speaker 1: I just decided to lay it out. I never need
Speaker 1: to work for them again, and I'm cool there you.
Speaker 1: I heard there was the laptop left for you under
Speaker 1: the ice machine and the hotel. Is that true? That
Speaker 1: is incorrect. It was left on top of the ice machine.
Speaker 1: Wait who left the laptop? That was part of the
Speaker 1: that never happened. He never bought me anything. I had
Speaker 1: all he brought. He brought me a hat the first
Speaker 1: day that I forgot at the home because they picked
Speaker 1: me up in my house. They said you need to
Speaker 1: go to the airport. I said, you can pick me
Speaker 1: up in my house. I have tubs and crates. I
Speaker 1: am not going to the airport, and they're like, you
Speaker 1: have to go to the airport. I said, I won't
Speaker 1: get there on time, so your better option is to
Speaker 1: just pick me up my home, which is on the way.
Speaker 1: I knew where they were, and so they did that,
Speaker 1: and I had my phone the whole way. And once
Speaker 1: I figured out where we're going, I told my husband
Speaker 1: in the car. I was like, this is where we are.
Speaker 1: Dropped my location, so he knew. My cousin knew the rules.
Speaker 1: We all broke the rules. Girl, everybody did. They had phones,
Speaker 1: we were out a phone. It's fine, it was reality TV.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to up everybody. But when that moment
Speaker 1: where you get sick, was that because you were just
Speaker 1: feeling sick or were you nervous for some reason? What
Speaker 1: was that you ate at? You ate a crafty the
Speaker 1: whole day? Was that there's one thing that Alaska knows.
Speaker 1: I can't eat. What can I eat? What d I
Speaker 1: can't with that had lasagna. Here's what they do. Here's
Speaker 1: what they do. They get you up, and they get
Speaker 1: you up and drag for the runway. They review two people.
Speaker 1: Then they say okay, break for and we're all corset
Speaker 1: and gussie it up high whore and then say do
Speaker 1: you want some fucking food? It's like no, bitch, I
Speaker 1: can't even sit. So I know there's been some tense
Speaker 1: lunches and talk because it's yeah, yeah, so like like
Speaker 1: you know you're in the bottom, you know you're on
Speaker 1: the top, you know she sucked you over, Starling, it's
Speaker 1: very tense hunches. Did you feel that, like when William
Speaker 1: describes the atmosphere of the season four production, was that
Speaker 1: kind of similar to what you experienced the season five?
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't necessarily being taken care of all the time.
Speaker 1: I think they changed a lot of stuff because of
Speaker 1: will I mean like now we have now they have
Speaker 1: tape on the doors so you can't even open your
Speaker 1: hotel room door. Our choir teacher would do that on
Speaker 1: fucking filters producers anymore. No, you're not, it's found upon
Speaker 1: And then did that get better with All Stars too? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess it wasn't. It wasn't as brutal
Speaker 1: as you're describing. That one was awesome, I did, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was truly inspired. She was amazing, She was amazing,
Speaker 1: her promo was sickening to the whole thing, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I just talked about him a Z you won agree? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree completely. What they're whispering over the mic that
Speaker 1: someone didn't like someone's promo. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: But that's all that we're gonna say. That's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It might have been me, It might have been William,
Speaker 1: it might have been Matt, might have been a law say,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, who knows? Um? Okay, well, then this is
Speaker 1: because the reason the place this is all stepping for
Speaker 1: happening to you? Almost? Yeah, what's throwing up? Do you
Speaker 1: have Darry today? But no, I'm almost thrown up multiple
Speaker 1: times over what's going on? No? I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I don't drink. I can't talk to the last night
Speaker 1: I was going to say that this all stems from
Speaker 1: the Queen top of the woods. Can you hear? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Well, I'm is just she's been drinking heart
Speaker 1: your stomach has got to be a bad scene. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on? A class? Were you
Speaker 1: on that one too that I ask? Control? Or nine?
Speaker 1: I'm nominated for reward? I mean to be like Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga got the golden globes. Yes, yes, wait is this
Speaker 1: this will be a good segway. This is a great seguay.
Speaker 1: So you're in a star? How was it shooting it?
Speaker 1: It was beyond my wildest The best thing has ever
Speaker 1: happened to me in my life. Honestly. I heard you
Speaker 1: have a really good scene with Bradley. I have many scenes,
Speaker 1: three really good scenes with Bradley and l Yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 1: You haven't seen it, have you know? But a couple
Speaker 1: of people that I know have seen it and uh
Speaker 1: got his manager JM me a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and so you'll be very happy with it. A review
Speaker 1: that I read by Alonso Gerald from The Rap We
Speaker 1: did a podcast with him out in l A. He
Speaker 1: specifically mentions you and says that you have a really,
Speaker 1: really good scene with Bradley Cooper. Oh girl, I can
Speaker 1: quote the article. It said, kudos the casting directors x
Speaker 1: Y and x Y. I forget their names, but I'm
Speaker 1: sending them. I'm off in basket for casting Greg Guenberg,
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle and RuPaul's drag y flunkey or something. Well.
Speaker 1: I love that. I don't care or drop out. RuPauls
Speaker 1: drags drop out for like a flirty scene in a
Speaker 1: gay bar with Bradley Cooper, and I was like, they
Speaker 1: called me out and my scene. Fuck, that's so freaking cool.
Speaker 1: But I like, I think Alonso he is a writer.
Speaker 1: He wrote a book like Bears in the City or
Speaker 1: something I remember, or he wrote for out back in
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, he's been around. He's cool. I remember
Speaker 1: reading his book or his hus Bears book. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: very cool. And yeah, yeah, like so that's cool, like
Speaker 1: that he thinks that must be so great. Do you
Speaker 1: get to go do you get to go to Tiff
Speaker 1: for the premier? And here I'm going to Tiff and
Speaker 1: I'm going to um the other one, which I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if I'm a lot to say where it is
Speaker 1: to tell you right, no, okay, we don't, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if the bitch can, the bitch can,
Speaker 1: and William does not withhold without good reasons, which I'm
Speaker 1: not about to piss off the best opportunity of my life.
Speaker 1: They're saying. They're saying that woman might win an Academy Award.
Speaker 1: I've seen the first twenty five minutes of the movie.
Speaker 1: They showed it to us on our second day during
Speaker 1: the lunch and then after they were like, no one
Speaker 1: had their phones out right, and we were None of
Speaker 1: us did obviously, but they were. Um. But it's so
Speaker 1: different because you see them start singing and it's not
Speaker 1: like Mulan Rouge where there's a click track. They're actually
Speaker 1: just singing and it's live. It's all all the singing
Speaker 1: was recorded live, and it's a different animal and you're like,
Speaker 1: you get chills just seeing it and he happening and
Speaker 1: watching Bradley sing. How is he as a director? Um?
Speaker 1: The best, the best. He's from Philly and like I
Speaker 1: instantly felt like that East Coast thing that some people
Speaker 1: just don't have, and like he was cool and I
Speaker 1: we we did the rehearsal and a lot. It was
Speaker 1: all improp. I didn't even learn the script. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: it was great, but they said you're in a dressing room,
Speaker 1: go you'r drag. Queens were like cool. Me and Channgelo
Speaker 1: were like me in the scene with Shandy is easy
Speaker 1: because she's she's so good. She's got she's got a
Speaker 1: mouth and I got a button. You know. We play
Speaker 1: off for each other. While we did Hurricane Bianca together
Speaker 1: and Small Ship. Um, but it's so great, that's so special.
Speaker 1: Congrats man, that's amazing. Yeah. If I could have told, like,
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen year old me when I was getting mancipated,
Speaker 1: guess what, in like twenty years, you're gonna get your
Speaker 1: big break. Just waited out kids, Yeah, and be really
Speaker 1: fucking nice. And now nobody can tell me nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna move with Lady Gaga the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: the rest of your time, of my career. I can
Speaker 1: retire after this. Everything after this is fucking gravy or
Speaker 1: icing or both. Bravy icing icing. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, Well
Speaker 1: this is the thing, Like I don't know, I feel like,
Speaker 1: do you do you both find that you have to
Speaker 1: sort of consciously seek out these like career opportunities that
Speaker 1: are like that transcend the drag race whatever, like the
Speaker 1: industrial complex of that, or do you find that these
Speaker 1: things you're just coming to you now where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: there are more opportunities just by virtue of like visibility
Speaker 1: or whatever. The fuck I mean, I wouldn't know how
Speaker 1: to speak it out even if I wanted to. It's
Speaker 1: just like it's just great opportunities come our way and
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared for it and then like
Speaker 1: go say yes and show up. I think work gets work.
Speaker 1: If you work a little, you're gonna keep working. And
Speaker 1: I was working before Drag Race, and if there was
Speaker 1: an audition, I went to it. If I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to it, I still went to it. And
Speaker 1: that's how you book stuff you don't even know. I
Speaker 1: booked a Nintendo commercial. I wore a sweatshirt and a
Speaker 1: denim skirt and like five minutes of makeup, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't want to go to it. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I did you know? And that was in like
Speaker 1: two two. It's terrible. It's always the ones that you
Speaker 1: don't care about, right, and you're so weird, like I'll
Speaker 1: I literally the closest I came to like booking like
Speaker 1: a television series. It was I forgot about the self tape,
Speaker 1: put pulled out my laptop, just read the script off
Speaker 1: the thing while my boyfriend at the time like owned me,
Speaker 1: and then we sent it in and I got I
Speaker 1: was like the second choice for it. It was bizarre.
Speaker 1: And then you literally sit there looking over your script
Speaker 1: like and really care and that's yeah, they don't get fucked, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but I mean it is that's the biz Alaska.
Speaker 1: Tell us more about Amethyst Journey, this gorgeous music you
Speaker 1: and Jeremy. Okay, so tell us like what like what
Speaker 1: was like what was like the impetus to like put
Speaker 1: out something like this that was like not like you know,
Speaker 1: like a dance club. No. I mean, well, Jeremy and
Speaker 1: I have been making music together for years anyways, so
Speaker 1: we're like, we might as well record something together. And
Speaker 1: we went into the woods and we said I had
Speaker 1: some ideas for some songs and like snippets, and we
Speaker 1: were like, we're going to go into the woods and
Speaker 1: like intentionally we're gonna like come out with the music.
Speaker 1: We didn't do shrooms. We there was can abyss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was lots of wine and um and there was
Speaker 1: a hot tub. So it was amazing. That's enough. And
Speaker 1: then I have you done. I I've just done ascid
Speaker 1: for the first time this summer. And did you like me?
Speaker 1: He loved it. It changes like I've never done high
Speaker 1: find Alaska. You have to you have to do it now. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean like you're you're you're you're sober, but you
Speaker 1: will still do drugs that oh sorry, sorry, sorry, I
Speaker 1: was sober for like two years, I got to like
Speaker 1: a break in a detox on stage, right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Anymore you're familiar with my you have my favorite will
Speaker 1: be drunk on stage. I can't right now. I have
Speaker 1: to be at the helm of the ship, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: as we see you have my I think favorite discography
Speaker 1: of any drag race Alum and Pussy is my favorite song,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's a good one. It's a really good
Speaker 1: that's a good pop song, thank you. I live for it.
Speaker 1: And I also loved the T because that was it
Speaker 1: had me gasping and clutching at my little pearls. That
Speaker 1: was a good video. That was a good video, great video.
Speaker 1: Everyone came together, were like sure, yeah, everyone showed up
Speaker 1: and I gotta show up and paid dust to this guy. Hey,
Speaker 1: yeah it was great? Not you? Wait? Was the was
Speaker 1: the T the one with Chunley? Turned the page? That one? Okay,
Speaker 1: did you make a Chunley reference before Nicki Mina ever
Speaker 1: thought to do one. I've been told that she had
Speaker 1: been doing it. It wasn't based on that. I chun
Speaker 1: Y Chunley is from Street Fighters, so it's actually like
Speaker 1: wrong because Streets of Rage, chun Ley streets of she's
Speaker 1: a street fighter though, so I technically it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a missprap. How dare you dare you not know? Um? Yes,
Speaker 1: this video and race chaser, the theme song, which is
Speaker 1: we have to do a video for it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, have a thing to wear, country western themed.
Speaker 1: I want to shoot it at Flaming Saddles, Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: Demon Diamonds. I want to we will let me worry.
Speaker 1: We have to fly out and be in it and
Speaker 1: stand on the side with a little flags like the
Speaker 1: sluts that like that, like yeah, you could be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll make sure, make sure. I really don't care that
Speaker 1: the tape we're both with the t a um, are
Speaker 1: you guys on LA casting? Cool Central Casting? Work? Back
Speaker 1: to six o six one. Oh, that's the union men's
Speaker 1: call in line for extra work. I remember that from
Speaker 1: Oh my God, looking for work and now You're gonna
Speaker 1: be in a Oscar nominated film. I mean, several times over.
Speaker 1: I want her to win everything. I want Bradley to
Speaker 1: win everything. I want the writers to win everything. I
Speaker 1: want to win everything. I heard that the real gay
Speaker 1: of the movie, and I heard that Gaga is Gaga.
Speaker 1: But I heard the gag is Bradley Cooper. I heard that.
Speaker 1: I heard that he is like they described how he
Speaker 1: acts like you know how they say it's very hard
Speaker 1: to act drunk, Like he acts drunk better than anyone
Speaker 1: ever has apparently, like he just plays like that kind
Speaker 1: of like really like like sazzled, like alcoholic, like very
Speaker 1: well you can feel it in his skin and voice,
Speaker 1: like sazzled is something I might have just made up
Speaker 1: and I actually like it. N Dred and six szzled
Speaker 1: is a thing. UM nine, We are now going to
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, the question that we ask um all
Speaker 1: of our guests, and we'll start with Alaska. This is
Speaker 1: what is the culture that made you say? Culture is
Speaker 1: for me? It's like the pop culture that you experienced
Speaker 1: as a young person that culturally defined you, that made
Speaker 1: you into the person that you are, like a movie,
Speaker 1: not even as a child, just like when you kind
Speaker 1: of found like there it was Michelle Phife for as Catwoman.
Speaker 1: That is a perfect because I am her, because she
Speaker 1: is unhinged. She goes back to her house, she has
Speaker 1: a mental breakdown, freaks out, knocks everything over, then pulls
Speaker 1: out a rubber raincoat and makes it into a cat suit,
Speaker 1: sewing it with dental flaws. She is I am her,
Speaker 1: she is me. I just bought a portrait of her
Speaker 1: as that character from My Room from Flame Commy Were
Speaker 1: a Flame kind of This guy's incredible artists who I believe, No,
Speaker 1: not this guy. But there was also this guy, this
Speaker 1: artist who drew amazing pictures of you. That was that
Speaker 1: was Chatte. But yeah, he's retired from he's retired from
Speaker 1: drag race art. Really, he's focusing on his own work,
Speaker 1: like his own well, his work, his work for you guys, wonderful, stunning.
Speaker 1: But there was some other artist who had this glorious
Speaker 1: picture of Michelle Phifer's cat Woman, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I must have that. That's a Really she is incredible
Speaker 1: in that movie. In fact, across the board, that movie
Speaker 1: is like underrated, one of the better superhero movies. Oh,
Speaker 1: absolutely formative in the genre. Yeah, are you a Fighter?
Speaker 1: A fan? Overall? I love her? Yeah? You up as
Speaker 1: the Penguin? Oh my god, she did? I did so.
Speaker 1: I did Michelle Fighter as a Alvira and Scarface, and
Speaker 1: then she did Um the Penguin on Suckless. I told
Speaker 1: her we were going to do a Batman and I
Speaker 1: did Alvira. I was like, I'm seller, but she did
Speaker 1: the gorgeous penguin would be a great penguin she was.
Speaker 1: Jingle's album is unbelievable everything. Oh, you have to listen
Speaker 1: to les album. It is really good. The girls are
Speaker 1: fucking slank like kole Um Cranbroule. That song is and
Speaker 1: we have to say, Williams, I love Shardestry in Motion.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, it was number one. It dident that cool.
Speaker 1: That was like great, beautiful, like model for like like
Speaker 1: a drag performance, like I live for the Triple A
Speaker 1: girls as well, love the Triple Um. I was thinking about, well,
Speaker 1: my next album after this, I think it's called Now
Speaker 1: that's what I called drag music. There you go, that's
Speaker 1: what I call drag music. I love that. Wait yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go wait because even like even I don't know
Speaker 1: if this might be totally off the mark, even the fraud,
Speaker 1: even like the fact is a little like hear me
Speaker 1: or like Michelle, do you feel like you could trace
Speaker 1: it BacT to that? Yeah? Maybe right. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to be her, and I like she was the role model.
Speaker 1: She still absolutely what was that movie that she was
Speaker 1: just in Selena Kyle, what a good, perfect name. That's
Speaker 1: so good and that's it's just very exactly. Do we
Speaker 1: think Michael Keaton is hot? Yeah? I love Birdman. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: The bank now and I saw this, that's you look amazing.
Speaker 1: Banks are a world of different the banks and just
Speaker 1: the love a bang. Oh my god, Jigglie as the
Speaker 1: penguin is very good. Okay, William, Let's ask you the
Speaker 1: same question. What was the culture the formative thing that
Speaker 1: pushed you in that direction to be like culture is
Speaker 1: for me? Um, one of the things that helped me
Speaker 1: become and make sure I wanted to know I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a drag queen was seeing other drag queens,
Speaker 1: like the ones. There's a couple of references. Don't tell
Speaker 1: my mom the babysitters done queens, drag queens like Greedy Yard,
Speaker 1: the funk out for that Jackie nothing, don't tell my
Speaker 1: mom the babysitters dead. Did do something to self tape
Speaker 1: for that? You in Hollywood? Then never mind, she's so
Speaker 1: young as you new. Um, I think seeing girls like
Speaker 1: Jackie beat and Alexis har Cat in um two in uh,
Speaker 1: all the movies, the too long foods, the Priscilla's the Wigstocks,
Speaker 1: like the Tricks, the all the It's My Parties with
Speaker 1: Margaret shows like those game movies made me realize that
Speaker 1: there was an outside of where I was in Florida,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't have to work at Disneyland.
Speaker 1: I can go out and explore and hope for my
Speaker 1: dreams to come true and then if they do. And
Speaker 1: that was that's what inspired me in the pop culture
Speaker 1: that made me like, go for ship, Like you worked
Speaker 1: at disney World in Florida. No, I got hired, and
Speaker 1: then I went to Traditions and I said, I broke
Speaker 1: my foot and I had to leave. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, mom, I have to go to Philly. I
Speaker 1: need to get out of Florida. Because I graduated when
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, and I was like, okay, let me
Speaker 1: stay here. I work at Disney for a year and
Speaker 1: then go away. And they were like, no, you should
Speaker 1: go because I was done school, I was precocious, I
Speaker 1: was already I already had clamidio when I was thirteen.
Speaker 1: I should have gotten out of the house more so
Speaker 1: your parents told you to go. No, I mean they're day,
Speaker 1: but who's they like? My mom and Dad, like they
Speaker 1: agreed and helped me get like emancipated, and yeah, great, okay,
Speaker 1: so that was that was like an amicable couple. Emancipation
Speaker 1: super They come to my shows. Wow, great, Yeah, they're awesome.
Speaker 1: I love that. And you moved to Philly and how
Speaker 1: long were you there? I was there for like to
Speaker 1: two or three years, and I would bridge and tunnel
Speaker 1: back and forth from New York. I didn't pay the
Speaker 1: Lincoln Tunnel thirty seven times, and I had a Warren
Speaker 1: out because I don't know the money I was doing
Speaker 1: back and forth bridge and tunneling. Sorry, that car a
Speaker 1: lot too. Did you go to New York from Erie?
Speaker 1: A lot? Back and forth? No, Pittsburgh was the big
Speaker 1: city for us. Yeah, that's where you wanted to go
Speaker 1: get crazy. Yeah, you started out in the pits. I
Speaker 1: started out an Eerie, which is two hours outside of
Speaker 1: it A yeah. And then for you, the trade directory
Speaker 1: was Eerie to Pittsburgh, Drags just a couple of Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: l A, then l A back to Pittsburgh, then Drag
Speaker 1: right back to Cool. You'remo so interesting? Was it? Like?
Speaker 1: So Drag Race Season one happens and then was it
Speaker 1: like this thing in the whole of the whole drag
Speaker 1: community where it's like everyone's submitting tapes or or were
Speaker 1: you always galvanized to submit? Well, no, because it's like
Speaker 1: it's like they talked about this in Race Chase, or
Speaker 1: like they would like approach like Chad Michael's whole group
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, we're starting the show with all
Speaker 1: drag queens, and then Chad was like, no, we're not interesting. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like it's this is this is the thing. It's
Speaker 1: like there was no model for this, I mean, was
Speaker 1: going to be the industry that people are like, no,
Speaker 1: like who you're some Hollywood asshole who's telling me to
Speaker 1: do the show? It still has RuPaul attached though, sure,
Speaker 1: but like was at that time RuPaul was off the
Speaker 1: radar for a year, right, Like so it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember RuPaul. Can you imagine a time where you'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, RuPaul remember him? Yeah? It was
Speaker 1: when the show started, right, So it wasn't like it
Speaker 1: was gonna be this foregone conclusion that it was going
Speaker 1: to be a huge success and had to get and
Speaker 1: then it really didn't slay until season four. That's I
Speaker 1: mean sure No. Three was three was fierce, but I mean, like,
Speaker 1: in terms of everyone watching four is the first time
Speaker 1: they had great archetypes of reality TV. They had the bitch,
Speaker 1: They had the goth girl, they had the sassy, fat
Speaker 1: black girl, they had the underdog. They had um, you know,
Speaker 1: the spicy Latino girl, like we had good architect that
Speaker 1: had a California bitch. They figured out casting, they did,
Speaker 1: and the casting was great that season. And I attributed
Speaker 1: to a lot to Chanelle Parolo. And she's the one
Speaker 1: of the girls that helped produce Wigs. She was a
Speaker 1: talent producer for that. She wrangled everybody, I hate you, okay,
Speaker 1: let's she's a duck is our friend, but Cheryl has
Speaker 1: decided that she wants to perpetuate the rumor, which we
Speaker 1: can perpetuate that we were horrible. Chanelle was our talent
Speaker 1: minder on drag Race for my season and the last,
Speaker 1: so she went through it. Sheanelle was the one that
Speaker 1: told the producers, you should talk about this Heather's thing.
Speaker 1: The girls are talking about the hotel Heathers and boogers.
Speaker 1: She brought that to set and then producers like, why
Speaker 1: don't you tell us? And they're like okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's how Heather's got brought to the light with channelle Shell.
Speaker 1: Chanelle made me stay past the second episode because that's
Speaker 1: when I first broke a rule and I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck this, they're not going to send me off. I'll
Speaker 1: just leave on the first rule. The first rule I
Speaker 1: broke was, um, I went to a store because we
Speaker 1: gave them money to get us stuff and they didn't.
Speaker 1: And it was four days later and we're like, we
Speaker 1: need our ships. Were about this. I went to a
Speaker 1: CVS and then I told the guy, um, give me
Speaker 1: some hands. I hear some hand sanitizes. Like cool. I
Speaker 1: was like, I got out of the story. I w
Speaker 1: to today and I took a few other girls bitch
Speaker 1: like we need our ship. You need to treat us better.
Speaker 1: And then after that, I was like they're going to
Speaker 1: kick me off. And then they kept me the next
Speaker 1: day and I was like, oh, okay, well, let me
Speaker 1: try to sing for the one girl's elimination. They said no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, You're going off script and I was like bye,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to rewatch this season. Knowing that
Speaker 1: the whole time you were just like literally drawing here's
Speaker 1: the thing I pulled the page and it's a stunt
Speaker 1: and it's value, it's valid. People win sometimes the whole
Speaker 1: season by pulling a stunt. You know you were you
Speaker 1: were the first stunter on the show, like in a
Speaker 1: more like so much it's a cential sense, like you
Speaker 1: were stunting on the show. Would you call me stunty
Speaker 1: County so much? Behind your back to your face? There's
Speaker 1: a line, get in it you want a fast pass?
Speaker 1: Was anyone like that on your season? Like behind the season?
Speaker 1: He talks about talking to her Michael, she's the remember
Speaker 1: when they switched to the song, and she's like, I
Speaker 1: see all of you, I see you. Wow. Wait and
Speaker 1: she's like talking to people. No, yeah, honestly because d
Speaker 1: d As she's told this story before, so I think
Speaker 1: if you want to find it, you can ask her
Speaker 1: about it. But like I shouldn't talk about it, but
Speaker 1: no I should. I mean, she's told it where I
Speaker 1: think it's valid to talk about. They sometimes switched the
Speaker 1: lip sting songs the day let me tell you with Jinks,
Speaker 1: Miss Jinks and Miss Detox. They switched it from an
Speaker 1: eighties mix so Detox to it was Free your Mind
Speaker 1: by nineties for the sugar Ball for and they made
Speaker 1: it my Lambo number five, which is the song that
Speaker 1: has performed in her repertoire before. So I think they
Speaker 1: knew who was going to slam it. So D told
Speaker 1: me when she got home, She's like, I took my
Speaker 1: microphone off and said, I see you, I see you
Speaker 1: all okay, fine, And she did the number like she should.
Speaker 1: She slaid it. But like they knew that Jinx was
Speaker 1: going to be the top at that point. I guess
Speaker 1: you think they were rigging it for Jinks. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think they were. But I think every reality show
Speaker 1: in the final three has an underdog. You need the
Speaker 1: has an underdog and antagonist and a protagonist, and the
Speaker 1: antagonists usually the pro to like the Chad Michaels or
Speaker 1: the Alaska thunder fun And I think the narrative of
Speaker 1: Laska talks in the top three. It's I think it's good.
Speaker 1: The narrative is like to break it up, I know
Speaker 1: you love. It's like they have someone called a story
Speaker 1: producer that's actually just a writer, right exactly. That's actually
Speaker 1: interesting all the way they film and this is interesting
Speaker 1: to the produce reality TV. Any show is they film everything,
Speaker 1: they get transcribers to transcribe it out, and then they
Speaker 1: look through it, and then they take pieces and script
Speaker 1: it together with paste and they say, this is a show.
Speaker 1: We're going to produce forty eight hours of footage forty
Speaker 1: two minutes. So they do what they can, and that's
Speaker 1: the most efficient way to do it, and to create
Speaker 1: a story that people care about, like Alaska talks because
Speaker 1: I cared about it. Yeah, right right right yeah. So basically,
Speaker 1: you can watch it now and you guys did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did it, beauty. You watch the show now
Speaker 1: when you love it, like the new season comes on
Speaker 1: and you love it now. I love it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to know any spoilers. I'll know spoilers about All
Speaker 1: Stars if if it happens, but I'm like a lock box.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know anything abou out the new season,
Speaker 1: the regular season. Do you remember the day that I
Speaker 1: almost convince you in Courtney, I was on All Stars?
Speaker 1: You were so for a second, she were like no,
Speaker 1: but you know both of them. I gag them, And
Speaker 1: then I got Beverly next Door to like get in
Speaker 1: on it too, This girl that makes stuff for us.
Speaker 1: I feel like would you never go back? They won't
Speaker 1: ask me. They won't ask you in a fantasy world
Speaker 1: if they girl, do you not have to not say
Speaker 1: no never? I say no very infrequently, But for this,
Speaker 1: I don't like the way that they've treated a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And I don't think that um my concerns
Speaker 1: um would be any different once I got there, So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to put myself in a bad situation.
Speaker 1: And I'm in a movie with Lady Gaga. I don't
Speaker 1: need to step back like I'm not drinking out cool
Speaker 1: or trying to give myself a big shanna or anything
Speaker 1: about it. But but you know what it's like tagic
Speaker 1: would he go back to American idol? He's doing his thing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing too. I get stuff going. I'm cool. Um,
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm good. I think that was the
Speaker 1: time in my life and I was very how full,
Speaker 1: and I'm very happy about it. But um, it's better.
Speaker 1: I like it better on my own because I don't
Speaker 1: have to answer to anybody. And when I sunk up,
Speaker 1: I know it's my fault. I'm not going to blame
Speaker 1: someone else. But oh, I'm mad at you because you
Speaker 1: didn't feed me right, fuck you. You know, because they've
Speaker 1: been filming more stuff. There's there's a Christmas thing coming out,
Speaker 1: and I mean I think that's no secret if you
Speaker 1: go and read it, and um there, I'm glad I
Speaker 1: wasn't there for that. Once I heard some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that happened, I was like, fuck that. So then
Speaker 1: are you like using you in detox as examples? Would
Speaker 1: you encourage that, not that behavior, but that sort of
Speaker 1: response more to be like, oh, if something is uncouth
Speaker 1: and like call that out in the moment. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Squeaky wheel gets a greased So if you
Speaker 1: just complain about something and they don't to yourself and
Speaker 1: not to the people that it's affecting, it's not going
Speaker 1: to do much. So and if you want to be happy,
Speaker 1: you should probably speak up. You know, if you're unhappy
Speaker 1: with something, doesn't make sense to just sit there and
Speaker 1: stew and boil and get hot under your wig, right.
Speaker 1: I mean we there's certain things where we're like, no,
Speaker 1: we won't stay at your house, get us a hotel.
Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that where some people try stuff
Speaker 1: and I call them trysha try, don't try. And it's
Speaker 1: also like not not as if they don't have the
Speaker 1: money now to treat them really right. And I actually
Speaker 1: we moderated the Drag Race panel at Vulture Fest and
Speaker 1: we do the review RecA, we we do the recaps
Speaker 1: and um, but we did the panel with them at
Speaker 1: Vulture Fest. And the one thing I think about the
Speaker 1: show that's kind of like a little bit like you
Speaker 1: can call it out, is unfair is the way that
Speaker 1: like some queens coming with tons and tons of money
Speaker 1: and other queens coming with nothing, and they're expected to
Speaker 1: bring the product you don't think, so don't do that,
Speaker 1: because like, here's the thing, we all have drag families
Speaker 1: and drag sisters and people. My season, the day we
Speaker 1: got our first checks, we had to go to four
Speaker 1: different banks because a bunch of the girls accounts were overdrawn.
Speaker 1: Because you go every penny in once you get on
Speaker 1: this year, like this is my chance to make a splash,
Speaker 1: Let me do it. And if the girls don't have
Speaker 1: the money to do it, learn how to sell, Learn
Speaker 1: how to make stuff, you know, because cry to Queen
Speaker 1: is always going to find something to wear. That's what
Speaker 1: I think I mean. Um. Monique gave an interview where
Speaker 1: they were asking about the disparities between poor queens and
Speaker 1: rich queens and gets out of money and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Willem. He had money and he
Speaker 1: was sucking busted on his show, on his season, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never even met you. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then interview and I was like, okay, twice in black
Speaker 1: and white, and I was like, that's a nice way
Speaker 1: to meet me. I wasn't busted. I never had one
Speaker 1: bad comment on my outfits. She listens to this the
Speaker 1: show by Monique har Monique, I don't know why you
Speaker 1: said that my outfits were great, And um, I wasn't busted.
Speaker 1: You saw my beard like once and I looked great.
Speaker 1: There were no judges critiques on my offits the entire time.
Speaker 1: They said my hair was wrong once the second episode,
Speaker 1: but then that I was perfect fashion wise, So don't
Speaker 1: come from me there. But like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: she meant. I busted. I looked fine. People liked me.
Speaker 1: We interviewed her too for long and she said you
Speaker 1: need money that I did a little exit in her
Speaker 1: be with her when she ask the more trash bags
Speaker 1: Sharon Needles one with a bag of dirty lawn. She
Speaker 1: was weary and Beef was so plucked during the season
Speaker 1: because she's like she gets away with that. It's like, girl,
Speaker 1: sell it better. You know, the show is about it's
Speaker 1: not always what you wear. Sometimes a lot of it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot of personality. Keep rue laughing and you're golden. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's actually it's seems more and more evident entertained, and
Speaker 1: it's it makes good TV. If she's entertained, that's a
Speaker 1: guarantee a miracle be entertained. Probably, there you go. I
Speaker 1: think Cracker could have won the show had she just
Speaker 1: like kept it, kept them more together. I really I
Speaker 1: think she just I think she just probably I mean,
Speaker 1: like I would have just let it get to my
Speaker 1: head in that same way where she's like, what the
Speaker 1: fun is going on? Why am I not excelling it? Well?
Speaker 1: That you see that video in Aquaria one in the bar,
Speaker 1: Cracker like put her head down on the table and
Speaker 1: for like ten seconds and it's someone across the room
Speaker 1: being shady with their little phone, Crackers sitting at a table,
Speaker 1: and the TV goes the winner is Aquary and everyone
Speaker 1: on the bar is losing it the crazy and Cracker
Speaker 1: is just sitting there. No, she puts her head down
Speaker 1: on the table still and not please. What's that about?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's I think she has
Speaker 1: she probably had a migraine. Probably had It was a
Speaker 1: migraine that struck right at that moment. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe she should go to Helix sleep dot com and
Speaker 1: I agree. Weird slash last Colts with the promo code
Speaker 1: drag you fag. Oh my god, this is our show
Speaker 1: because you have money. I'm out of here, get me
Speaker 1: my hoverboard. Well, first, before you leave, we have to
Speaker 1: do I don't think so, honeyde what is our second
Speaker 1: we do? Um Alaska knows it well. She was a
Speaker 1: judge at our cluster Fest show, which was very fun,
Speaker 1: very fun. We thank you for doing this so hilarious.
Speaker 1: We like you guys were great judges. In fact, the
Speaker 1: winner of it, Rachel Pegram just moved into big apartment hostel.
Speaker 1: I'm yes, yes for disenfranchised comedians. Um but great. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna start. It's one minute on the clock
Speaker 1: to to rant against We'll just take something and talk,
Speaker 1: very good at talking. Oh my god, I'm scared. You
Speaker 1: know what we can do for you? What you do?
Speaker 1: Just you pick topics ode of a bowl. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: do that. We'll do that. That's easier. Okay, let's start
Speaker 1: with Matt will go, Matt me last. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: really know what I'll say, but here we go. You know,
Speaker 1: you know my topic, but I don't know my take. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: boom cute. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, as time starts to now, I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey that you can't wear white after labor Day.
Speaker 1: Actually a bitch, I'll wear where do the funk I want?
Speaker 1: You know, what's after Labor Day? Fucking Christmas? And if
Speaker 1: I want to show up to the Christmas party in
Speaker 1: a fucking white turtleneck, which actually sounds kind of cute,
Speaker 1: maybe I will do that. And also when is the end, honey,
Speaker 1: this after labor day thing? When? When? At what point
Speaker 1: may I start wearing white again? Also, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: restate I'll wear whatever the funk I want you ditch now. Also,
Speaker 1: Alaska says dictates that apparently Anna Wintre has stepped forward
Speaker 1: second and said that the white after labor day thing
Speaker 1: is now not a rule. Can someone please fucking get
Speaker 1: up on national broadcast television and say, for once and
Speaker 1: for all, if we can wear white after Labor Day
Speaker 1: or not until then. I don't think so, honey. Also,
Speaker 1: are we also talking off white? We're talking a ivory? Honey?
Speaker 1: Are we talking to are you know so so light?
Speaker 1: Think that it's almost white? Bone? I will wear whatever
Speaker 1: the funk I want. White is a good color on me.
Speaker 1: As long as I'll roll around in the goddamn dirt.
Speaker 1: You'll see me wearing my white ensemble, bitch. And I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. If you think are the way, wow,
Speaker 1: I will wear white's. But the only thing is about
Speaker 1: white is if you like have a little bit of
Speaker 1: you know, your teeth aren't looking exactly perfect that day?
Speaker 1: Sure at that point you're splitting hairs, smile gorgeous. Okay?
Speaker 1: Do you guys both have new girls with with with
Speaker 1: the drag race money. I see a lot of the
Speaker 1: girls get I got mine when I was twenty three.
Speaker 1: After I saw myself on the talk, I was like,
Speaker 1: that tooth is crooked. We're fixing. We're getting took mine
Speaker 1: Murphy to get you to that, God, Ryan Murphy, I
Speaker 1: love you. Joel Harris's teeth are my favorite thing on television.
Speaker 1: Oh they're fabulous. Whatever she really does, she's the queen.
Speaker 1: Here's her All Stars winner. I hope, I hope so yeah,
Speaker 1: and the wonderful many so many good ones that should win.
Speaker 1: We talked to her after. We talked to her after
Speaker 1: after the finale. She was good and good Jackie Jackie.
Speaker 1: But Jackie has transcended the whole show though, Like that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't know. Well, she's she's not paying
Speaker 1: it to bro for Joan Rivers. Yeah, yeah, yeah like it.
Speaker 1: She doesn't need it. Yeah, please whatever. As a judge,
Speaker 1: that's why I want her judge. Has Lady Bunny ever
Speaker 1: come on the show to judge, not to judge? Now?
Speaker 1: She was on drag you. That's very good, all right, honey,
Speaker 1: his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. These
Speaker 1: fucking idiot Asians who are suing Harvard for this and
Speaker 1: this affirmative action thing, there's not one okay, according to
Speaker 1: some sources, there's not one student at Harvard or these
Speaker 1: students who didn't get accepted into Harvard who are ready
Speaker 1: to take the stand and testify that affirmative action. Uh
Speaker 1: harmed them do you know what I'm saying. They're using
Speaker 1: this because they're bitter about their fucking just I mean,
Speaker 1: they're Tiger parents have brainwashed them into thinking that you
Speaker 1: have to go to some ivy league school. And he
Speaker 1: saw Donald Trump and the and the right are using
Speaker 1: you as anti black cogs to func shut up and
Speaker 1: it's not necessary. Be better, do like, do not ascribe
Speaker 1: to this model minority bullshit. Okay, the best, Thank you, Milania.
Speaker 1: I just I hate it. I'm holding people in my
Speaker 1: little cohort accountable because this sucks. Man, Babe, I get it.
Speaker 1: I was growing up for eighteen years thinking if I
Speaker 1: don't make it into when trash. But then I went
Speaker 1: to n y U and whatever, it was fine. And
Speaker 1: that's one minute. I went to n y U and
Speaker 1: it was fine, the final sentence of I went to
Speaker 1: NU and it was fine, and it was fine. You're
Speaker 1: kind of sexy when you're mad. Thank your shoes, and
Speaker 1: I'm wearing slides because I lived two blocks away. I'm
Speaker 1: not up. Um, well, explain coherently what you're what You're sorry.
Speaker 1: So there's this lawsuit that's Asians. My friends in it. Constant,
Speaker 1: Oh your friend, Constant. I know I did a TV
Speaker 1: show with her. I don't really know if she's fabulous
Speaker 1: that can deliver a single tear, she's so good. Um. No,
Speaker 1: it's these Asians. It's this group of Asian students who
Speaker 1: um did not get accepted into Harvard were suing. None
Speaker 1: of them will take the stand, none of them. They
Speaker 1: know they'll be ridiculed on social media. Actually, well it's
Speaker 1: like they they're claiming that affirmative action has like like
Speaker 1: like they've brought in black and brown students to take
Speaker 1: their spots at these schools and it makes no and
Speaker 1: it's horrible. It is we'll get a scholarship or something,
Speaker 1: or just be better, I don't know, like sucklass, suck
Speaker 1: lass Willem's book and have better, Um, have more distinctive
Speaker 1: things on your personal statement. You're whatever better hair, get
Speaker 1: better hair, just have a personality beyond just like being
Speaker 1: a sucking robot who studies Like like, babe, I get.
Speaker 1: I was reading these sa T prep books when the
Speaker 1: seventh grade, and then you decided to get a personality
Speaker 1: and it was wonderful, dropped acid and now I'm now
Speaker 1: you have a personality and things. God, I wanted to
Speaker 1: do something where I do a different drug for every
Speaker 1: episode of the beach On that I do once, And
Speaker 1: then I realized that would be a bad idea because
Speaker 1: I already done crack and I don't want to try
Speaker 1: crystal crystals. He did crystal on accident, and it was fine.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that all was not. It was because you're
Speaker 1: kindly the same No, no, no, days. He was not okay.
Speaker 1: His teeth were chattering. Bit you were chattering like a
Speaker 1: fucking sing. Have you have you taken adderall before I
Speaker 1: take adderall and crystal method the same molecule, the ingredient
Speaker 1: bottle says and fetament salts for vivans and adderall generics.
Speaker 1: Accidentally took beth salts the other day. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to let them know that meth and adderall chemically the
Speaker 1: same math has an extra methyl group which makes it
Speaker 1: more lipid soluble so that it crosses your blood brain barrier. Lady,
Speaker 1: Meth is fine, that's fine. You put this on the
Speaker 1: clock because I'm gonna shoot topics in Alaska, and then
Speaker 1: when you're done, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna shoot
Speaker 1: out anyone, and you're just gonna say thinks about these
Speaker 1: things that wart association, and then we just say, unless
Speaker 1: you have something you want to rant about, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, I don't think so honey. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'll ask you your first tell me, tell me when
Speaker 1: the clock goes on and I'm sorry, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Just why are you just sit there with
Speaker 1: the clock And I'm gonna say topics and Alaska is
Speaker 1: gonna recounting down for a minute. Yeah, just do your thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Alaska. I don't think so, honey, hurt time
Speaker 1: starts to know, okay, Lord the singer Lord, Okay, so
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. So first of all, I
Speaker 1: talk really slow, so that helps in a timed situation.
Speaker 1: Lord Um south Park did a really great job of
Speaker 1: succinctly like identifying lords Um that practices and music writing.
Speaker 1: She takes the computer and she just talks to it
Speaker 1: because she's like a fourteen year old girl who's angsty.
Speaker 1: And then they put like a beat behind um. But
Speaker 1: I know, I like, I do think so, honey, because
Speaker 1: I know I think she's great. I think she's she
Speaker 1: does that her makeup, she does that weird dance about Lord.
Speaker 1: So I do think so, Lord, and her name is
Speaker 1: Lord like Madonna's daughter. Lord is okay, miss van Jin
Speaker 1: As an expression as a cultural thing, I do think so. No,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And that's one minute. So I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honeyally not well, I don't think so. You
Speaker 1: were Legentina said you're on Robert Mueller? Was it should
Speaker 1: be pronounced Mueller? And that was it spelt like Mueller.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. What was another one in the
Speaker 1: last it did that it would be good? She goes
Speaker 1: something something more like something something like far That was that?
Speaker 1: That was that? There you go, simple, straightforward. Okay, there
Speaker 1: we go. Okay, this is Will and bellin up some topics.
Speaker 1: You're going to excelixed, but the phrases excel. I don't know. Paint,
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, ms paint. Who is that? This is?
Speaker 1: She's looking fish and she's looking like a grouper filtered photo. Look.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. The
Speaker 1: actor Ed Harris, and I have no Harris. There you
Speaker 1: go ed sheeron. Oh my god, I love that little um,
Speaker 1: the red headed boy. He's so nice, So, honey, the
Speaker 1: horse ed the talking horse, Oh um, super fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Taylor Swift reputation album, Taylor Swift a
Speaker 1: great writer. I just I don't think so, honey. I
Speaker 1: think so Christmas season, the Christmas season, don't negative honey
Speaker 1: about it in general. I thought the drag Race Christmas season. Oh,
Speaker 1: because that's sickening. I think has I think we has
Speaker 1: a Christmas album, mo, honey. So they're doing a little
Speaker 1: beach One Christmas special with a lot of the girls.
Speaker 1: Oh honey, okay, um five seconds. The tea is caffeine free.
Speaker 1: That is free, and I have honey, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, lover honey, pure extra light amber. I
Speaker 1: think that's why you comparently don't think funny because he
Speaker 1: clearly literally Honey Honey is so good too. Honey. It
Speaker 1: was on girls. That's carry Honey e Raiser. That's the
Speaker 1: best song called Honey. I think Robin the beautiful vocalists,
Speaker 1: beautiful live vocalists. First, absolutely, you guys are live vocalists.
Speaker 1: So many blessings, blessing. How does it? Why did God
Speaker 1: give you this talent? That's a question for you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I found it a loss of found Why
Speaker 1: did God give you this? It's the Lord's playing, It's
Speaker 1: been home. It's in god plan. That's all. This episode
Speaker 1: is God's plan. Maybe a little bit, But I just
Speaker 1: want to say, the four of us here are all vocalistas, because,
Speaker 1: as one reviewer put in in a review for this podcast,
Speaker 1: you said, it's like all drag queens and real housewives.
Speaker 1: As soon as they got a little bit gay famous,
Speaker 1: they assumed the world wanted to hear them sing. And
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe they do. Maybe they album Absolutely, honey,
Speaker 1: I know it's good. I haven't heard it. She puts
Speaker 1: fucking dollars into her music videos. To that she looks
Speaker 1: like a large bag of money. This is the most
Speaker 1: expensive month of my life. What is that a reference to?
Speaker 1: It's a treat that she said she didn't get into.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Drag queens on Twitter, Okay,
Speaker 1: I actually don't think so. Well, now they're getting into
Speaker 1: what the fucking Euriko O'Hara, Jack Harry be for my
Speaker 1: favorite beef of the year. You okay, will Willam has
Speaker 1: to go Hoboards to pick up Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know it's here. He just has to somewhere else. There
Speaker 1: we go, Okay, tell you tell them my personal business.
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