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Speaker 5: It is Tuesday, October thirty, first, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 5: episode number sixty. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 5: We are alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 5: Very festive and colorful s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.

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Speaker 5: We are not the Broncos, we are the Cowboys. And

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Speaker 5: it's just Halloween here, so we're celebrating a little Halloween. Actually,

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Speaker 5: in the day's for segment, I got a little bit

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Speaker 5: of some questions what scares you most? We'll do some

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Speaker 5: of that here in the first segment to get into

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Speaker 5: the spooky spirit. We also have some talk around the NFL,

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Speaker 5: what's going on with the NFC East particularly, sorry the

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Speaker 5: NFC particularly, And then got a little bit of conversation.

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Speaker 5: I want to get to a little later in the

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Speaker 5: show on a couple players that had standout games and

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Speaker 5: talk a little about how they're performing this season. We'll

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Speaker 5: get to lab Coat in the third segment as well.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure we have some interesting numbers that our local

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Speaker 5: scientist has for us to digest over there. Let's start first.

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Speaker 5: As I said before, it is Halloween, so we're going

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Speaker 5: to I have some questions. I have three questions for

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Speaker 5: you guys, and they are what scares you more? And

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Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a couple options, and you

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Speaker 5: tell me what scares you more in this spooky holiday

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Speaker 5: of Halloween. First, what scares you more? Dallas doing nothing

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Speaker 5: at the trade deadline? Or Philadelphia doing something at the

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Speaker 5: trade deadline? Something more.

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Speaker 2: Let's say Philadelphia doing something more at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: I mean they just recently got Kevin Byrd. And then

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Speaker 2: you look at some of the trades they've made over

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Speaker 2: And you look at aj Brown being a primary example

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Speaker 2: of that. I mean, how we up there in Philly.

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Speaker 2: For as much as you hate the organization, give the

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Speaker 2: guys credit, Give the guys Roses. I mean, he absolutely

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Speaker 2: knows how to build a team, and he is very

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Speaker 2: aggressive in making sure that his team is as over

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Speaker 2: the top with talent as its possible. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: when you look at a team that's at a top

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Speaker 2: a former All Pro safety in Kevin Bayard, and we're

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Speaker 2: sitting here just hours away from the trade deadline, if

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Speaker 2: they make another splash, then yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I would agree with Dad because I

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Speaker 7: think it's one of those things human nature that you

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Speaker 7: kind of no, I wouldn't say envy, but you're more

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Speaker 7: worried about other people's business than your own. You know,

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Speaker 7: that's just how people are. But back to what Patrick

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Speaker 7: everything work. That's very, very impressive, but it's insane the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more scared of us not doing anything. That's

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Speaker 8: You know, I've I know it's important. And Will McLay

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Speaker 8: and you guys wraps, right, they you know the aggressiveness

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Speaker 8: But I also cringe when they say personal evaluations a

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Speaker 8: if if if there's positions on this team that they've

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Speaker 3: More of these, and you don't do anything about that.

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Speaker 8: That's the that's the scary part to me that you

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Speaker 8: know this, I said it, you know earlier last week.

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Speaker 3: This conference is for the taking right now.

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Speaker 8: It really is with the way the direction you know,

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Speaker 3: You want to be on the upward tick.

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Speaker 8: And if teams that are going down the wrong way

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Speaker 8: I would hope that you would jump in there and

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Speaker 3: You know, if if San Francisco and and UH and.

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Speaker 8: The Eagles and those guys make moves that teams you're

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Speaker 8: stand Pat, I that that that kind of hits me

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Speaker 5: We're executing at a high level. We don't necessarily need

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Speaker 7: Do you remember I don't remember this, but back when

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Speaker 3: That Dallas did remember it was receiver by committee?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, not that they Dallas Dallas and rightfully so

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Speaker 3: They were committed to receiver by committee through camp.

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Speaker 3: And then that's when they went on.

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Speaker 8: They went on the aggressive and to Jerry's point, he

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Speaker 8: But mainly you're going to a coach and you're asking,

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Speaker 3: Tell me? How I tell this?

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Speaker 8: Like I get people laugh at me all the time

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Speaker 8: And that's the handicap that sometimes you deal with as

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Speaker 2: All this guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting that this will transition us. But it's

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Speaker 2: Was playing San Francisco? I mean, first, I'll be clearing that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's sports, it's football, and not scared

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't do that. Bring it, pull

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Speaker 2: stay within the confines of your game. I'd say San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: This team has proven that it can go to Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: or the Cowboys currently hold an eleven game win streak

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Speaker 5: They against Jalen hur Chip no, I will say, but

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Speaker 5: nonetheless they I mean, last year, both teams played without

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Speaker 2: We're about to?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is that gonna be this weekend? First time? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna find out a lot, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean my point being, you go to Dan

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Speaker 2: And we'll get to that when we talk about previews.

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Speaker 2: But when you talk about the forty nine ers until

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Speaker 7: Why couldn't they go on a losing streak starting with

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Speaker 7: That's given too much credit there after what you just

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Speaker 7: forty nine Ers, I mean, I get it. Eagles during

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Speaker 3: It's forty nine Ers. Yeah, they there's a factor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting to me because I actually I agree

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Speaker 7: Ye are you an Engles fan? Just hear a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Don Henley and the song.

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Speaker 5: You know what I am?

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Speaker 3: You know what I am.

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Speaker 5: I'm a realist, and right now I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at this game this weekend and I'm thinking,

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Speaker 5: playing their best football. They're not playing their best football,

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: All right now, I'm with you on the kiss I.

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Speaker 7: Mean, waste to say stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: You could have picked the Cowboys this week?

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Speaker 7: Heck you I am. Yeah, pick here today on a tuesdayiot.

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Speaker 5: She said, picket today.

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Speaker 8: I mean yes, so no need, no need for me

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Speaker 8: need to hear all that point is no.

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Speaker 3: Earlier. I mean, oh wait, wait.

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Speaker 5: As soon as you start talking about their team it's

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Speaker 5: like they got a lot of good players in a

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Speaker 3: They do.

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Speaker 7: But you will never hear me. I don't care if

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Speaker 3: All right, I got one more?

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Speaker 5: What scares you more? Okay, this was a little intricate,

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Speaker 5: so just follow me here. Dallas's offense versus press band coverage.

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Speaker 5: two yards against this defense. What scares you more?

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Speaker 2: Considering who they're about to go up against and you

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Speaker 7: What was the first one again?

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Speaker 5: Press man coverage. Dallas's offense against press man coverage, that

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Speaker 5: was what that was, basically what Sanfords press San Francisco

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Speaker 7: That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: They're pretty equal to me of things that are a

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Speaker 2: A, I don't know, you know, help you defeat that

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Speaker 5: Me and man coverage, your back is to the correct

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Speaker 2: It extends coverage windows against guys like Cooks and Lambs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's penning poll for me, man and nothing more

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Speaker 8: And you have no answer for that, you know, all

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Speaker 5: It's a different kind of running though they do a

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Speaker 8: I'll say the press coverage stuff stuffs worried because the

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Speaker 3: Is a bad looking offense. It isn't bad.

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Speaker 8: And then your quarterback gets hit and if you're not

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Speaker 8: pending poll to me is when teams can demoralize you

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Speaker 7: Well, we didn't have They've had issues all season. I

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Speaker 7: And I think it's more because of those you haven't

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Speaker 2: That's very true.

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Speaker 5: I haven't committed to it, really, and I mean this

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Speaker 5: they were situations where you're scrambling. But I mean that

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Speaker 8: Yeah okay, well yeah, because even if they they got

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: Usually, if you're if you're having problems like that, you

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Speaker 3: But they're like, nah, let's just keep throwing it.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna sy. It's funny. He says that because

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Speaker 8: Were committed to run, They were committed to throwing the

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Speaker 8: When you keep seeing your quarterback knocked on the ground,

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Speaker 2: And they're really quickly correction. For those that are listening,

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Speaker 2: Deck had two thirty eight three touchdowns with no interceptions.

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Speaker 3: How do give me some scoring? He said?

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Speaker 5: The stack had three touchdowns, Yeah, three touchdowns, two thirty

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Speaker 5: All right, here we go NFC. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 5: top eight teams in the NFC. Only seven will make

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. An interesting note, Minnesota had start off a

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Speaker 5: little rough, They've gotten things going, got back to five hundred,

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Speaker 5: know how you think about that. The likelihood is that

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Speaker 5: Francisco at five and three, Philly at seven and one,

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Speaker 5: Dallas at five and two, Detroit at five and two,

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Speaker 5: Seattle at five and two right now leading that division

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Speaker 5: actually over San Francisco, Atlanta at four and four, New

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Speaker 5: Orleans at four and four, and then Minnesota at four

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Speaker 5: and four if you had to put them in order.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's try to give us the top seven teams

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Speaker 5: and put them in order from top to bottom.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia one, right.

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Speaker 5: I think we all can agree on that.

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Speaker 3: Right. How about how about Detroit number two?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: You think Detroit number two?

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Speaker 3: Detroit number two? All right, it's anybody got another team?

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Speaker 3: I thought we were doing this is we're doing a group.

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Speaker 5: We do this a group.

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Speaker 2: As we have this conversation. I agreed, Philly is one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Detroit at two? Is Seattle better than Detroit, especially after

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Speaker 5: I think Dallas is better than both of them in

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Speaker 5: my opinion.

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Speaker 7: I had I would go, so you would put Dallas second.

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Speaker 5: I had a Seattle, well, I would go. Feeling I

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Speaker 5: think San Francisco is still second in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Not only three games slat with party playing the way he.

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Speaker 5: Is, they also are doing that without Deebo Samuel and

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Speaker 5: without Trent Williams, two of their studs. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: the mental, the mental, the mental. No, No, I'm not

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Speaker 5: feeling sorry for them. I'm not feeling sorry for them.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that if they are around during

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Speaker 5: when it comes time for playoffs, and we've seen this

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Speaker 5: from San Francisco before. They have these parts of the

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Speaker 5: season where it's like, oh, what's happening with San Francisco, Oh,

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Speaker 5: they're dead, And then right and right there around mid December,

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Speaker 5: they get on this swing and they just start rolling

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Speaker 5: and then they get into the playoffs and they do

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Speaker 5: damn it.

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Speaker 2: But we're not talking about December.

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Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is if I'm putting them in

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Speaker 5: order the best, yes, I do, because that's what I thought.

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Speaker 5: Right now I'm saying. I'm saying we're talking about because

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Speaker 5: we're talking about the rest of the season playing out

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Speaker 5: and who's going to be in the playoffs once we

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Speaker 5: get there. These are the teams that are kind of

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Speaker 5: in the mix right now.

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Speaker 7: I would be rich if I could predict the future

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Speaker 7: like that, I would be.

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Speaker 5: You know, A part of our all of our job

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Speaker 5: what we do.

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia, Detroit, Philadelphia, Detroit, San Francisco, Dallas, with Seattle and

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Speaker 8: now comes the front part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh man, I think that.

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Speaker 8: I think New Orleans is going to figure out a

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Speaker 8: way to win the South okay, but where I have

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Speaker 8: San Francisco, I have San San Francisco third, third, Dallas four,

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Speaker 8: let's go New Orleans five, six, actually six, Minnesota seven.

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Speaker 5: So Atlanta out Minnesota would be the one in for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Okay, I agree with Philly at one, San

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Speaker 2: Francisco until for the notice, they're better San Francisco. I

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Speaker 2: put San Francisco at two, Dallas at three. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to give Seattle the nod over Detroit. I like how

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Speaker 2: Detroit is playing, but they also got you know, killed

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore. We know how that feels to get killed

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Speaker 2: in the in the week. But Seattle was already playing well,

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Speaker 2: already leading their division. Then what do they do. They

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Speaker 2: get a deal done to get Leondard Williams, I believe,

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Speaker 2: so they just got better. Arguably, so one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 2: five Detroit is my five.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 2: NFC South is going to be very interesting because I

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Speaker 2: could see what Brian is saying. I think the same,

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Speaker 2: nor should you. But it feels like they're not far

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Speaker 2: behind New Orleans, and it feels like they're starting to

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Speaker 2: try to get Kyle Pitts involved. And then of course

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Speaker 2: they have Bijon and when you have Bijon, you got

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Speaker 2: a chance. So I think with Minnesota losing Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 2: I think the NFC South Mike Squeak two teams into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. So what I got Philadelphia, San Francisco, Dallas, Seattle, Detroit,

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Speaker 2: and then I'll take the two NFC South teams. I

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Speaker 2: think Atlanta wins that division. But but I do think

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Speaker 2: at number seven, I think it's quarterback. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna stand.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna or Taylor Heineke.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I think their quarterback situation. I know

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Speaker 5: Ritter's not good, not good, but but I also don't

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Speaker 5: think that's what I'm saying. I just don't think what

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Speaker 5: I've when I've watched New Orleans this year, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: they're often sputters off about and look at look at cars.

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Speaker 2: Frustration here over the past few days, and how he's

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Speaker 2: better at managing my emotions. Well that that's quite telling

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Speaker 2: that you have to come out and say that. That means,

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Speaker 2: to your point, things are not going well offensively.

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Speaker 5: For let's think about cars, I mean cars traditionally, the

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Speaker 5: problem with him is his consistency. He just has not

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Speaker 5: been consistent. He'll have a good game here and they'll

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Speaker 5: have two or three bad games here, so he'll h

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Speaker 5: all day absolutely, So that that's why I don't really

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Speaker 5: trust him as much as I know Ritter isn't necessarily

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Speaker 5: doing great out there. And Atlanta, I do think the parts,

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Speaker 5: I actually believe the parts the other offensive weapons and

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Speaker 5: Atlanta are better than the offensive weapons in New Orleans,

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Speaker 5: and that may be the difference.

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Speaker 2: Could Tampa make some waves in the in the NFC

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Speaker 2: South between Atlanta and New Orleans? Do you think they could? Possibly?

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Speaker 5: They quarterbacks in part with those other guys.

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Speaker 2: They're competitive as well, so NFC South is gonna be interested.

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Speaker 2: But outside of the NFC South, finishing up my six

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Speaker 2: and seven, I mean, what are we talking about? The

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Speaker 2: that's that's going to hurt them.

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Speaker 5: They said, what that? What the prognosis is on that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the weekly week the week prognosis.

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Speaker 3: Is, Tampa's Tampa's got a shot here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I think they're at Houston. They got Tennessee at home

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Speaker 8: at San Francisco. We'll see Indianapolis at on the road in.

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Speaker 3: Carolina, and that's an easy schedule. They're they're kind of

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Speaker 3: in that mode right now.

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Speaker 2: They can make a wave, they.

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Speaker 3: Can make it. Yeah. But they're three and four right

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Speaker 3: now too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they've lost. They've lost three straight.

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Speaker 8: They've lost to Detroit, Atlanta and at Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: So who you get?

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Speaker 7: No, I skipped this question because yeah, because Cowboys one.

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Speaker 5: I'm not crazy.

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Speaker 7: No, No, because you see, I take my predictions very seriously.

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Speaker 2: And did you actually say that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because you got to look at so many different things.

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Speaker 7: And I'll be honest, I don't sit here and watch

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Speaker 7: every single game of all the teams. Every time we're

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Speaker 7: going to face an opponent. Is when I look at

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Speaker 7: who we're looking like Philadelphia. Obviously you know the gist

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Speaker 7: of things, and you follow the general news and all that,

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Speaker 7: but for example, even you mentioned in the schedules, that's

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Speaker 7: something that takes into account like who else are they

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Speaker 7: playing for the rest of that season? So there are

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Speaker 7: a lot of components where I'm not gonna sit here

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Speaker 7: and give you guys an uneducated guest. I take that

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Speaker 8: Know now out of my yet, she said, Seattle's at

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Speaker 5: By the way, that'll give us a good indicator if

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Speaker 5: a really good I.

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Speaker 3: Thought they were going to lose to Cleveland.

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Speaker 8: Cleveland's good though, Cleveland and they and they turned the

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Speaker 8: ball over. I mean it was crazy. But yeah, maybe Seattle.

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Speaker 8: We'll see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's tack our final break.

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Speaker 5: When we come back, we will talk a little bit

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Speaker 5: final segment. I have two names I want to give

726
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Speaker 5: to you guys. There were some interesting stats about each

727
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Speaker 5: one of them. I wanted to talk about too many.

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Speaker 3: Dog.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with him offensive tackle. This week, he's playing

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Speaker 5: for Tyron. He was playing for Tyron Smith who was

731
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Speaker 5: out injured. Check this out. He only allowed two pressures

732
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Speaker 5: on thirty six pass blocking snaps, only one sackle out

733
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Speaker 5: that happened at the first play of the game, and

734
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Speaker 5: then he didn't allow another sack. He only allowed one

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Speaker 5: other pressure in the game. What's the difference right now

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Speaker 5: between Tyron Smith and Chuney DOGA.

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Speaker 3: Probably name experience, experience I'll go with that one.

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Speaker 8: Probably the fear of the opponent that you know, going

739
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Speaker 8: against a DOGA to an opponent would be I think

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Speaker 8: I could probably break this guy down. I think I

741
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Speaker 8: could probably get around him. Tyron Smith, you know there's

742
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Speaker 8: a history there. It's kind of like, you know, I've

743
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Speaker 8: seen this guy play at such a high level. He

744
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Speaker 8: hasn't played at a high level in a long time.

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Speaker 8: He still plays at a level that's probably a little

746
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Speaker 8: north of what Tuma Adoga is.

747
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about. What is the difference there

748
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Speaker 5: in their playability? What's the difference.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Tyron Smith now will miss blocks, He'll he won't

750
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Speaker 8: be able to cut the guy off.

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Speaker 3: Chuma O'doga will do the same thing. They're very similar in.

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Speaker 8: That regard that you will see the occasional breakdown where

753
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Speaker 8: oh he didn't get to the second level where before

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Speaker 8: you know, I mean there was times where Tyron Smith

755
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Speaker 8: you get him in space and we've seen it on

756
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Speaker 8: a cracked toss where they bring some receiver inside, they

757
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Speaker 8: crack the edge and they get him and now he's

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Speaker 8: just railroad in some safety or you know. That's the

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Speaker 8: biggest fear of a defender right there, is that Tyron

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Speaker 8: Smith in space. I think that's a really huge difference.

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Speaker 8: But as far as pass blocking goes, Tyron Smith can

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Speaker 8: be broken down, but so could Tuma Adoga. And I

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Speaker 8: think that's where the run game aspect of it I

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Speaker 8: think is a little bit higher for Smith than it

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Speaker 8: is for a Doka.

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Speaker 2: For me, it is the experience aspect and all that

767
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: comes with it. You know, while the physical attributes are

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Speaker 2: starting to slide as Tyron Smith gets into the dusk

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Speaker 2: of his Hall of Fame career, he still has a

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Speaker 2: certain amount of veterans savvy that Tuman just doesn't have

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't have the years under his belt the

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Speaker 2: experience of having played at such a high level as

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Speaker 2: Tyron Smith. So my answer is really just straightforward. It's

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Speaker 2: just the experience aspect. When Tyron is healthy, that's who

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Speaker 2: you want to have out there because he will be

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Speaker 2: able to he knows what looks to kind of react

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Speaker 2: to and which way to go and do, and this

778
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Speaker 2: is stuff that Tchuma is still kind of figuring out

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Speaker 2: even though he's playing well, especially being thrown into the

780
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Speaker 2: fire as he is. But yeah, it's still Tyron Smith

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Speaker 2: takes the edge over Tuma, if only for experience and

782
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Speaker 2: veteran savvy and being able to also teach Tyler on

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Speaker 2: every single rep as the game goes along. That's something

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Speaker 2: that Tchuma can do, but not to the that a

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Speaker 2: first potential first Battle Hall of Famer can do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, uh with Tyron you definitely have to

787
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 7: still show respect because of the experience and everything that

788
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 7: you guys mentioned. But if we were to play like

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Speaker 7: if there was some sort of masked player like the

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Speaker 7: mass singer. Yeah, if you were like adapt the whole

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Speaker 7: mask singer into mask football player and you weren't looking

792
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Speaker 7: at the physique or anything like that and.

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Speaker 3: Just watching.

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Speaker 5: And you just saw the results.

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Speaker 7: You saw the results in it. I think you it

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Speaker 7: would be hard right now to tell who's who because

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Speaker 7: they are playing at the level. I still see Tyron

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Speaker 7: all the way over here, Chuma all the way here,

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Speaker 7: but they're both playing like right here in the middle

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Speaker 7: where Chums playing up like the level that be expected,

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Speaker 7: and then Tyron is just kind of they's still giving

802
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Speaker 7: you stuff, but you're not getting him at his prime anymore.

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Speaker 8: Chuma playing at a high level. But it just shows

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Speaker 8: you how far that Tyrant Smith has come down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so they kind of mad in the meal, yeah middle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 8: That's that's and I think that's a really good analogy.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 5: I want to throw out another name of you guys also,

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Speaker 5: Odiggie Zoo. Check this out. He generated six pressures on

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Speaker 5: nineteen pass rushes. That's a thirty one point six percent

812
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Speaker 5: pass right pass rush win rate. Uh. He was second.

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Speaker 5: It was a second game this year when he had

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Speaker 5: twenty five percent plus pressure rate he was double team.

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Speaker 5: This was the interest pire. He was double team almost

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Speaker 5: half nine of the nineteen times, forty seven point four

817
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Speaker 5: percent of the time he was double team, and on

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Speaker 5: four of those nine when he was double team, he

819
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Speaker 5: still got pressure. Is also Odiggie Zoo outside of Micah?

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Speaker 5: Is he the best player on this defense side of Michael?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's the most consistent Bland.

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Speaker 5: I knew that was gonna get you.

823
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Speaker 3: I knew that was gonna get him, Bland.

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Speaker 2: Now, now you're you're pitting two of my tops against

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Speaker 2: and oh that was smooth. I like it.

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Speaker 8: If those two plays, the plays that the Chargers games

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Speaker 8: were hit on Bland, and we might think differently about

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Speaker 8: Blade just In just in those they overthrew him. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: just In thought, yeah, just In thought. Just I think

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Speaker 8: Bland's been outstanding, don't. I'm not trying to discredit Bland

831
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Speaker 8: at all. I think when the situation and he was

832
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Speaker 8: thrown into with digs being out expectations. I don't know

833
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Speaker 8: why teams throw the ball at him, but I think

834
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Speaker 8: we might think differently of him, just optics of it, like, well,

835
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Speaker 8: he gave up two, you know, he but corners bit

836
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Speaker 8: on routes.

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Speaker 3: It happens in the.

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Speaker 5: League, especially getting picks.

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Speaker 8: I just think that a doga from Giants game to

840
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Speaker 8: Rams game. You if you look at his graph, it

841
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Speaker 8: would be going every every week. It seems like it's

842
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 8: a going up. You know, there's not that violent. Oh

843
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 8: he had a two sat game. Oh he's gone two

844
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Speaker 8: games without any tackles. Oh wait, he's got another sack

845
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Speaker 8: and a half. Oh, you know, it's not that. It's

846
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Speaker 8: all been very steady in the way that he's played.

847
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Speaker 2: Wow, you did throw me for the loop with the

848
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Speaker 2: Ron Bland. I'm still going to give the slight and

849
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Speaker 2: I do mean slight because Bland is absolutely him. But

850
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Speaker 2: osa for me goes back to last year. He had

851
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Speaker 2: a breakout season last year, all things considered, goes into

852
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: the offseason and you expect that he's going to take

853
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Speaker 2: a jump this year. But look at the jump he's taken,

854
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Speaker 2: and then look at his work ethic and look at

855
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Speaker 2: I had a good conversation with him earlier this year

856
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Speaker 2: about his preparation. I mean he's doing everything from adding

857
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Speaker 2: pilates to his formula.

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Speaker 5: He remade his body. He's a different kind of he's

859
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Speaker 5: a different style he's absolutely.

860
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Speaker 2: Chiseled, like an Olympian god type chisel. Like I mean,

861
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Speaker 2: he's something different. And then when you go back and

862
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Speaker 2: you look at the film to Bryan's point of every

863
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Speaker 2: single game, though he's not a name that you're hearing regularly,

864
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Speaker 2: go look at how he wrecks the interior of the

865
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Speaker 2: opposing offensive line. He's always back there. And for me,

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Speaker 2: you know, a drawing a holding penalty is as good

867
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Speaker 2: as a sac to me, cause that's ten yards. And

868
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Speaker 2: guess what he did against the Rams. He drew a

869
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Speaker 2: holding penalty and he would draw some more often if

870
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Speaker 2: the rest it blah blah blah blah blah. But Osa

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Speaker 2: is a game wrecker too, And I'm going to say this,

872
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Speaker 2: much like I said with Deron Bland, as far as

873
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Speaker 2: the career arc, I think he'll be up there with Sauce,

874
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: if not better. Osa is on an Aaron Donald esque

875
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: trajectory as far as if he continues to do what

876
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: he's doing and it just keeps going up, up, up,

877
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: up up a year from now, what does Osa look

878
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: like like? You have to start talking about him as

879
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: an interior game wrecker in the same breath, not saying

880
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: he will be Aaron Donald in the end, but he

881
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: is earning the right to be in the conversation of

882
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: that kind of air. As far as game wreckers from

883
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: the interior of the d line, there is no reason

884
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: an interior defensive line that should be able to have

885
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: the best win past rush win percentage on a team

886
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: that has Michael Parsons on it. You see what I mean, Like,

887
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous.

888
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: But in some respects that may help him.

889
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: No, it absolutely does help him. My point being the

890
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: fact that he's able to do that. And yes, he's

891
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: taken advantage of Michael being there and DeMarcus being on

892
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: the opposite side. He is, but I believe that if

893
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: you took one of those guys out, Osa would still

894
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: wret games. Maybe not to this particular aspect because they

895
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: got a key in on Michaeh.

896
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: But Osa is.

897
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: He's just that dude. Like he is that dude. So no,

898
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, his last name isn't the easiest, it's not marketable,

899
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: but it's fun zu wah. So it's right up there

900
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: with the Poka nkuas right.

901
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 7: I was gonna say his name when it went from

902
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 7: someone at least to me when he first started that

903
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 7: you're like, Okay, it's just somebody else. Yeah, like okay,

904
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 7: we got another player too, now you know who who is.

905
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 7: So he's kind of he's elevated his game so much

906
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 7: and sometimes very impressive to always see see somebody of

907
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 7: that size have the quickness that he does. So he

908
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 7: has changed his body a lot, but still seeing the progress,

909
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 7: the transitioning, the improvement of just getting faster every time

910
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 7: and better, it's very, very impressive and I think he's

911
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 7: done an amazing.

912
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: Job last thing, real quick and Ambar is going to

913
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: love this because she'd agree with it. On Doron Bland,

914
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: they're similar in that Deron Bland, he's the shine Jovio.

915
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: Now Osa isn't shy, but he's just this big, jolly guy.

916
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: Reminds me of Joe Looney right in that aspect. But

917
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: when the pads go on, you're talking about demon time

918
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: that switched flips and it's just bad news for everybody.

919
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's when you consistently look at the metrics of

920
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 8: the top pressure defensive tackles in the league, he's in

921
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 8: the top five every week.

922
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

923
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 3: With with all those outstanding names.

924
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 5: Animal, all right, let's get a little lap coat here

925
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: before we end the show. What we got Patrick?

926
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Speaker 2: Yes? Nice. Now, there are a ton of numbers that

927
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: we could that I could throw at you here, but

928
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep it real simple. When it comes

929
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: to Jalen Hurts, I'm going to harken back to what

930
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: I said a few weeks ago in that his rate

931
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: of turnovers is at career pace. He's going up against

932
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense that is one of the best in

933
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 2: the league in takeaways. So the magic number here is eight.

934
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: Eight is the magic number. Jalen Hurts. His career high

935
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: interceptions coming into the season was nine. He had only

936
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Speaker 2: thrown nine as a max. He's already at eight through

937
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: eight games. He's averaging one. He's on pace for seven

938
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Speaker 2: times a problem. That's a problem because you know Dak

939
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: Dak had fifteen. Dak had fifteen last year in the

940
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: world exploded. Jalen Hurts his on pace to break that

941
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: by two. So that's that's going to be key. And

942
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: also the number eight works in the Cowboys favor in

943
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: respect to Dak Prescott because Dak Prescott is eight and

944
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: three against the Philadelphia Eagles. In that he's three and

945
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: two in Philadelphia Dak knows how to go into Philadelphia

946
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: and win games. So Dak has eight wins out of

947
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: eleven against the Philadelphia Eagles. Uh and Jalen Hurts has

948
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: thrown eight interceptions. He's one of the league leaders in

949
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: that category, so he can he will throw the ball

950
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: in suspicious ways and when he does well at Stefan

951
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: Gilmore might be there to seal the game with it.

952
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis don't forget him, so opportunities will be there.

953
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Magic numbers, eight ladies and gentlemen.

954
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Speaker 5: All right, that's good stuff. We will tomorrow break that

955
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 5: down a little bit more.

956
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: Derek wants to tay you that receiver will have eight catches.

957
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 7: Man.

958
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: I keep watching, I keep watching that offense. I'm like

959
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 5: those receivers. Hey, we'll get into that tomorrow. We'll do

960
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: Cowboys offense versus the versus the Eagles defense tomorrow. He

961
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: got players on that defense too. That second deary can

962
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Speaker 5: be had though, we'll talk about that tomorrow. Till then

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Speaker 5: for Patrick Walker, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleson.

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