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Speaker 2: And I played probably sixteen years before you, and it

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Speaker 2: was the same money that increased.

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Speaker 1: For those of you out there playing it may be

431
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Speaker 1: the same money. I can't believe that. And so I

432
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Speaker 1: just got tired. I got so sick of playing there,

433
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: and everybody was so good, and all of a sudden

434
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Speaker 1: you would see folks start kind of dropping, and there'd

435
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Speaker 1: be a new person that would come and another person,

436
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Speaker 1: one of my friend Hey, where'd Jeff go? You know, Well,

437
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't seeing him in a few weeks.

438
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: I guess he went home. You know. Well Carrie was awesome.

439
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Where did she go? Well, I guess, and she had

440
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: a baby, I don't, you know. And it's just people

441
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: just start kind of coming and going and dropping. And

442
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: I played for a year and I was just like

443
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: and there was also someone new who came, who is

444
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: more talented or prettier or more handsome or whatever it is.

445
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: And anyway, so I just got sick of driving home.

446
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: I got sick of drinking and being out there. And man,

447
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: I got a phone call one afternoon. And this was

448
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Speaker 1: in the fall of twenty nineteen. Moved there fall of

449
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. This was a whole year later, and my

450
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: phone rang and the Davenport family called me and they said,

451
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Speaker 1: I believe it was BJ Charlie's wife, and she said, hey, Ben,

452
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: we got your number from a friend and you remember us,

453
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Speaker 1: you know. And I had landscape with their son and

454
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: things back in Vermont, and I said, well, hey, we're

455
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Speaker 1: actually down here in Nashville now. And I said, wow,

456
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: that's cool. And they said, will you come over for dinner,

457
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: and uh, I said, yeah, yeah, I'm tired of ramen noodles,

458
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: and you know, and so I was just taught. You know,

459
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: I was living in Cool Springs, and you know, couldn't

460
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: barely afford rent. And I was going home playing gigs

461
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: in Vermont throughout that year because you know, Ben's now

462
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: from Nashville, so I could make I could make a

463
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I could do shows for extra money now.

464
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, it was like, Wow, well

465
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Speaker 1: they're gonna come see me anyway, I'm such a big

466
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Speaker 1: deal granger, you know. And uh, my, my, my, my pride. Anyway,

467
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Speaker 1: this is this will this will be a good thing

468
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: for later. But but I was so I started to

469
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: get a little prideful in that. Anyway, I go to

470
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: this dinner and I was hungry, and they fed me,

471
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Speaker 1: and uh, it's the supper that saved my life, I

472
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Speaker 1: call it. And uh, at the end of this meal,

473
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: they asked me if i'd go to church with them

474
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I just I thought about it

475
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: for a quick second. I think I probably asked for

476
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: a dessert to be passed over. My belly was full,

477
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: my heart was full. I remember going there with beers

478
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: because I couldn't be myself without alcohol. I didn't know

479
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: how long I'd be there. They loved me just the

480
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: way that I was. They didn't tell me to straighten

481
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: up or you know, my mouth at the time was

482
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: foul and all the things, and you know, they didn't

483
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: say a thing. They just fed me. And I was

484
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: raised by my awesome dad, who honestly just did such

485
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: an amazing job for what he knew, Yeah that if

486
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: somebody did something nice for you, you do something nice back,

487
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: you know. And so I thought that I owed them.

488
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, I'll go to church with you.

489
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Speaker 1: Sure you guys just fed me, I'll feed you. So

490
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Speaker 1: that next morning.

491
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Speaker 2: In America, that's not a big deal at all, Like no,

492
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: of course, you of course, yeah, of course.

493
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Speaker 1: And so I just was like, this is fine, I'll

494
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: try it out. I don't know. And so it was

495
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: a Saturday night was the meal, and Sunday morning. Uh

496
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: so we went to Church of the City, Franklin, Tennessee,

497
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Speaker 1: and uh man, I just you know, we're all kind

498
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: of you know. I remember a little Nora was holding

499
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Speaker 1: my hand, and you know, it's just a family thing.

500
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: And I and I started, you know, kind of feeling

501
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: that thing of like I don't really know what all

502
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: this is. I'm not really sure what we're doing here,

503
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: and you know, it kind of started to set in

504
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was like, oh boy, we're in

505
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: the doors and there's lots of people everywhere, and everybody

506
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: was just beautiful. They were shiny and happy and you know, smiling,

507
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is this place? You know, I felt,

508
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe that the guys had makeup,

509
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: the girls had no I'm just kidding, I don't know,

510
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: but everybody just just looked beautiful. And I'm like, you know,

511
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: so here comes then, you know, walking in through the door,

512
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of just like, what is this place

513
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: and what's going on here? And I'm not really sure

514
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: about all this stuff. And little Nora's leading me in,

515
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: their youngest daughter, and you know, and all of a sudden,

516
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: I hear what and I just the auditorium doors were open,

517
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: and it was like, man, it was it was. I

518
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: blined it. I had to go, and I broke away

519
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: from them. I got into the doors. I stood in

520
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: the back of the church. Everybody's hands were up. This

521
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: man named John Reddick was on stage. Another man named

522
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Chris mcclarney was on stage or singing this stuff about

523
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: God turn it around, and I don't even know what's happening.

524
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: And next thing, you know, the man that lived his

525
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: life as a secret drug addict hiding in playing sight

526
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: for fourteen and a half years stood in the back

527
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: of that church and my feet had come off the

528
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: ground and I'd never been higher. And it was the

529
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: most beautiful feeling that I've ever had in my life.

530
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, what, I didn't have to

531
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: do anything for this. I didn't have to pay any money,

532
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: I didn't have to use any drugs. I didn't have

533
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: to drink twenty beers. I didn't have to do a

534
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: single thing. I'm feeling this way right now, higher than

535
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: I've ever felt. Romans ten nine says, believe in your

536
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: heart and confess with your mouth at Jesus christis Lord

537
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: and that God raised him from the dead. And if

538
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: you believe that, you will be saved. And I think

539
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: my belief everything that was in me in that moment

540
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: just said Jesus helped me. I don't know who you are,

541
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what you are. I don't know anything

542
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: about you, but Jesus helped me. I need you, and man,

543
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: it was like a It's like a warm blanket from

544
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: heaven fell down upon my shoulders and it was just like,

545
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to sing about Jesus for the rest of

546
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: my life. I have no idea how, I have no

547
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: idea why. I have no idea when it's going to start.

548
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: But I guess it started right there.

549
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Speaker 2: What did the Davenport's saying right now?

550
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: No idea where they even were. I think they might

551
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: have just filed in and kind of I don't know

552
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: if they were even in yet. Okay, this was a

553
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: split second. Yeah, this was as soon as my feet

554
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: got into that auditorium and heard that worship, he just

555
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: captured my heart. Withever. The date, I have no idea

556
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: what the date is. No, and I know I'll fall Yeah, September.

557
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: I think it might have been September and I'd have

558
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Speaker 1: to look back.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you about eeg Fest that is coming

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Speaker 2: up this weekend. If you're listening to this podcas guest

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Speaker 2: in real time May ninth and May tenth, I want

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Speaker 2: you to come and hang out with us, me and

589
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Speaker 2: the brothers at the Yegee Farm in Central Texas. We're

590
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Speaker 2: gonna have a truck show, a car show. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a mudbog competition with four different categories. Anyone could

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Speaker 2: enter this. It's gonna be so much fun. Or you

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Speaker 2: could just come and watch. Lots of good food, lots

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Speaker 2: of good people from ye Nation. And I'm performing a concert,

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Speaker 2: the only one of twenty twenty five. Can you believe

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Speaker 2: that me and the band and crew reunited after two years?

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Speaker 2: When we are back together for one night only, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have the band Reeves with us. Another great act,

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Speaker 2: the Josh Abbot Band, will be with us. Love those guys,

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Speaker 2: for more details. If you need to get a hold

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Speaker 2: of me for any reason, go to cameo dot com

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Speaker 2: slash granger Smith. In fact, I just literally got a

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Speaker 2: message from Cameo that says a guy named Ian now

605
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: has a request for me. So what I do is

606
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: I open this up and I go check out what

607
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Ian wants me to say for him. And for this

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Speaker 2: it is a happy Birthday to Melinda. So I will

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Speaker 2: reach out to Melinda. I say happy birthday. It's Granger

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Speaker 2: Smith here. I hope you have an amazing day. And

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell her what else that I have here

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Speaker 2: on the little list that Ian has given me. And

613
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: then I send it back to him, and then he

614
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Speaker 2: has a video message from me that then goes out

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Speaker 2: to Melinda. It's really cool, it's super easy. I've been

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Speaker 2: doing this for about six years now. So if you

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Speaker 2: of any kind, go to a cameo dot com slash

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Speaker 2: Granger Smith.

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Speaker 1: But November tenth, twenty nineteen, is when I came out

621
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: of the water like a freight train at Church of

622
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: the City and everything had just speedily happened right there.

623
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: Everything was just fast forward. God just hit the fast

624
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: forward button on everything, it seemed like, and I'd look

625
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: back and realized all the things and the times that

626
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: he was coming after me and coming for me, and

627
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I was just like, Oh my goodness, he was there

628
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: the whole time. He was there through all of it.

629
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: And he was right in the passer seat every time

630
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: I drove drunk, and he was right there with Ryan

631
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: and I when I was doing those drugs, and he

632
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: was right there with all. And I was like, oh

633
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: my goodness, I had this flooding thing. And so I

634
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: started writing again. But all of a sudden, my writing

635
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: started changing. It was about redemption, it was about love,

636
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: it was about Jesus, it was about the Holy Spirit.

637
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: It was about light, it was about and I just

638
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: couldn't stop. I couldn't stop. And that was like the

639
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: first night after my invitation to church and ever since then.

640
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Well it's funny. I've got a new song in this

641
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: record coming out in June. I've never been the same

642
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Speaker 1: since Jesus, And that basically sums it up, as I've

643
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: never been the same since Jesus since I asked him

644
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Speaker 1: in my heart.

645
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Speaker 2: And by the way, you shouldn't and if you are

646
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Speaker 2: the same, then I don't think you encountered him.

647
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.

648
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Speaker 2: It would be like if I came in today and

649
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: I was like, hey Ben, sorry a little to the podcast.

650
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: I was checking the mail and a truck hit me

651
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: and you know, but sorry, I'm late, And you'd be like, bro,

652
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Speaker 2: I don't think a truck hit you, because I would

653
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Speaker 2: know if you encountered a truck that was driving down

654
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: the county road. I would know that because of everything

655
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Speaker 2: about you.

656
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

657
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's this, it's much more with Jesus. If

658
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: you if you have an encounter with him, you're not

659
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Speaker 2: going to be the same.

660
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Speaker 1: Amen. Yeah. And just like that, like a wrecking ball,

661
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: out goes the language, out goes the sexy, out goes

662
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: the drinking twenty beers a night. And this is over

663
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: the course of two months. You still at tutsis Nope?

664
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Speaker 2: What happened? Tell me?

665
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: Man, I honestly don't even know. I was so convicted.

666
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy how all this happened. I started going, man,

667
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 1: I guess I need to like play in charts now

668
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I quit. It was funny how Tutsi's was really fizzling

669
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: out for me, and it was just like, man, this isn't.

670
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: This just isn't. All of a sudden, it had come

671
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: into another winter, another long winter, and I was just like, right,

672
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: it was starting to get cold a little bit, a

673
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: little chilly, and I was just like, man, what a

674
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: perfect time. But also I was so convicted because next thing,

675
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not drinking anymore. I don't want to

676
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: drink anymore. I don't even want to be around alcohol anymore.

677
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: It just did nothing but rob the life out of me.

678
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: It numbed the life out of me and the Christ

679
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: in me. And so it's just like, I'm done with drinking.

680
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of friends, and a lot of

681
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: people were kind of like, bro, what is this? Oh

682
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: are you brainwashed? What's the church thing? Like? Why Jesus thing?

683
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: And I heard a lot of don't forget where you're from.

684
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: You need to get back to your roots. And the

685
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: whole time I was, which I think is hilarious because

686
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: I actually really was getting back to my roots, that

687
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: was being a child of the Most hi God. But anyway,

688
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: I started playing. I started playing churches. I would go

689
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: home pastors instead of bar owners. Pastors started hearing, Oh,

690
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Ben Fuller gave his life to Christ. This is awesome.

691
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: Come tell your testimony. We'd like to hear your story.

692
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: We'd love to hear you lead worship. Will you come

693
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: here to this celebrate Recovery program? Will you come here

694
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: to our Wednesday night worship service. All of a sudden

695
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: it started changing. And this guy named Jimmy Nielson who

696
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: owns this awesome he owned this awesome coffee shop, Remix

697
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Coffee Bar, and he once turned me down because of

698
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: who I was, and he repented of that. He told

699
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: me that story later, and once he found out I

700
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: gave my life to Christ, he invited me into that

701
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: coffee shop because it's like this Jesus based coffee shop.

702
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: And he's like, man, you're a little rough for us.

703
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: We just didn't really want we couldn't yeah exactly, yeah,

704
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: and we didn't want you to kind of come in

705
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: and you were kind of a little rough and tough.

706
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I need to honor the

707
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: folks that are in here.

708
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: And that wasn't necessarily a sin on this, No, not

709
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: at all.

710
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: And he honestly told me, he's just like, man, like,

711
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: I just got to come clean and tell you, and

712
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: he did. He confess that to me, and I thought

713
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: it was so awesome. It's so cool of him to

714
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: say it. But all of a sudden, I started playing

715
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Remix and they kind of became this really safe place

716
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: for me to come home. And then they were like

717
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: helping raise money for me, and all of a sudden,

718
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: like checks started showing up in the mail down in Nashville,

719
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: and I find myself with this little log cabin an

720
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: hour and a half south in Nashville. I rented this

721
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: little cabin. I wrote one hundred and seventeen songs in

722
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: six months with some of the best Christian Jesus loving

723
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: songwriters there are in this whole entire world. And I

724
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: started having label meetings and the doors just started getting

725
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: kicked just left and right and play this church and

726
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: come here and tour there, and all of a sudden

727
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: it was like casting Crowns and Zach william and hey,

728
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: will you come on tour? Will you come open for us?

729
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: I signed my record deal, and it was like, in

730
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty and twenty one, COVID was the best

731
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: year of my life. I'm praising Jesus with all I've got.

732
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I take the world away from me

733
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: and I'll be okay, like that kind of thing. If

734
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: I got Jesus, I got it all. All of a sudden,

735
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: all these lyrics and songs started coming and an album

736
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: was put together and I just I was. I didn't

737
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: even have time to really think. It was just it

738
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: just kept happening, and doors just kept opening, and other

739
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: ones started slamming shut. And next thing you know, I'm

740
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, here, I am in Texas in front of

741
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: Grangers Smith, sharing my testimony of nearly six years sober

742
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: and celibate and walking this thing out in Jesus' name,

743
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: trying my best as I fall, as I fail, as

744
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I lust, as I get back up again, and scray

745
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: and pull and tear, and just keep this word near

746
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: and dear to my heart and open it every day

747
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: and try try my best to just read a little bit,

748
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: no matter what the circumstances are. And it's like it

749
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: just keep getting life and and and fed by this book.

750
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: And it's just and it's been amazing. But I'll tell

751
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: you what God did for me is he sent the

752
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: most incredible group of people, and he put them around

753
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: me to help hold me accountable and to help keep

754
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: me sober and to help keep me going because this

755
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: tour life, this road life, you know, this ministry that

756
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: God has given me the steward and it is not

757
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: and the devil hates my guts and it's gotten so

758
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: difficult at times. But I'll tell you when I've got,

759
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, a best friend that lays a hand on

760
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: my shoulder and praise for me. You know who plays

761
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: guitar beside me, Taylor every single night, you know, And

762
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: I've got a piano player that backs me up and says, man,

763
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: I've been praying for you today, bro, you know, and

764
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: it's like, man, you have you know, just having that

765
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: accountability for me is everything, and that's how I've been

766
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: able to continue down this path. But God, more than

767
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: you could ask, think or imagine, is what this book says.

768
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: And so I've been able to meet people like Brian Welch.

769
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: You know that I used to cut myself to corn

770
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: to the band, you know, the rock music, to relieve myself.

771
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: And then next thing, you know, his crazy self is like,

772
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: well I love Jesus too, and it's like you do,

773
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: you do too, And all of a sudden, I'm like

774
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: my mind is blown on how he's come to Christ.

775
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: And then you know, Jody Messina calls and she's like, hey,

776
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to write a song with you. My kids

777
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: heard who I Am on the radio this morning getting

778
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: ready for school, and it really touched him and it

779
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: touched me, And it's like what you know right now?

780
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: And to you know this new record and having carry

781
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: under would sing on it, and it's just like, you

782
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: know more than I could ask. But her too, she

783
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: finds her strength from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

784
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: And so it's like, wait a minute, what is this?

785
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: All these things right? That scripture that I had just

786
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: read about do not love the world, and the world

787
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: is passing away along with its desires. But whoever does

788
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: the will of God abides forever first John two seventeen.

789
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: And that was the word for me this morning. And

790
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: so it's like, I just think about your career and

791
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: your life and all the things and how He's brought

792
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: you back full time working for the best employer ever

793
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: and just loving Jesus and being unashamed about it.

794
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: It's like, man, it's cool. It's crazy. It's crazy, It

795
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: is crazy, but it's cool. There's also more to you

796
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: than music. Yeah, because the Lord has gifted.

797
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: You with a as as a communicator. You have a cadence,

798
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: You have a way of choosing your words that sounds

799
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: a little bit like, shall we say, preaching. So I

800
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think the Lord is It says

801
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: beIN Fuller is a singer, songwriter, musician and that's the

802
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: end of it. What do you say to that?

803
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, Man, whatever you got for me? Lord?

804
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what you said when you walked in.

805
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: Not about that. You just said, Hey, I'm just here

806
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: to just say what Lord, let me be available. Yeah,

807
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: that's the first thing you said. But but but I

808
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: do say that because there are to be a singer

809
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: songwriter musician, sometimes you could be introverted and kind of

810
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: you sing better than you talk. Yeah, and I think

811
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: you do both well. So that's it's interesting to think that.

812
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: I think there is a you know, just the way

813
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: you tell your story, there is there's a cadence that

814
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: that you could be a teacher.

815
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: Wow, thank you, And then you had to be careful

816
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: of that because teachers are judged man stricter. And I

817
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: think maybe that's why I think there's nothing more there's

818
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: nothing more nerve wracking to go on stage night after

819
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: night in front of thousands of people that I don't

820
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: know but also are hanging possibly hanging on words that

821
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: I've said or songs that I've sung. Or things like that,

822
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: and I go up and invite the Holy Spirit. I

823
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: think the hardest thing is what I'm trying to say

824
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: is to get out of the way and to let

825
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit do the work night after night, and

826
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: to go up on that stage, empty filled but empty,

827
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and say, Lord, I just want to I just want

828
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: to be used by you. I just want you to

829
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: say what you need to say to I mean, the

830
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: other night in Houston was the most powerful. I end

831
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: up jumping off the stage and praying for people. But

832
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't even know what happened, But

833
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: when the Holy Spirit comes into the room and fills

834
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: the room up, it's it's it's something. The fullness of

835
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: joy is in the presence of God and and and

836
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: it's like there you need nothing else, there's no lack.

837
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: And in that moment it was like man, before that,

838
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to in and out Burger, like

839
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to eat. I wanted to eat. And then

840
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, in that moment, I couldn't think

841
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: of anything more that I wanted to do. Would just

842
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: sit there and just be in His presence and and

843
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: just bathe in it, and just sit in it and

844
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: just sleep in it and work in it and walking it,

845
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: you know. And it lasted like fifteen minutes. It was

846
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: most beautiful and it did nothing but just increase my faith.

847
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: When are you gonna do that again? Welly could use

848
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: some more of that. That really filled me up, That

849
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: really encouraged me.

850
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: So what are you doing practically to to have this emptying?

851
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: And what you mean is you're emptying yourself and and

852
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: and filling yourself so that the Word dwells in you richly.

853
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: How are you practically doing that?

854
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Man?

855
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: You know, that's not a gotcha, that's not a question.

856
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, I expect.

857
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: I really think it comes back to who I'm surrounded

858
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: with and by in my band. They're nothing but disciples

859
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: for Christ, and they love Jesus more than me. So

860
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: they're always bringing the word. They're always reminding me of

861
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: who I am in Christ. They're always checking in on me.

862
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: I was on the elevator in the elevator with some

863
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: of those guys.

864
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: Uh Taylor recently, he's like, he's like, that was greater Smith.

865
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: He's like he didn't really. He's like, oh my goodness,

866
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: I would have said something if I knew. And I

867
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: was like Oh, it's great, you know. But anyway, he said,

868
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: you're really sweet to them. And but those guys hold

869
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: me accountable. And they're all different. You see. Some are loud,

870
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: most of them are pretty quiet guys, and they're pretty introverted.

871
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: But they're in the word, and so when they speak,

872
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: it's just nothing but and it's like, man, it just

873
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: ministers to me because I'm so loud and proud for

874
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: and after everything he's done for me, how could I

875
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: not sing and tell about his goodness?

876
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: Right?

877
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: And so they know that about me. But even last night,

878
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: I was just I had reached a point of being

879
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: peopled out, and I was just man after the stories,

880
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: and I think with that the blood of the Lamb

881
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: and the word of our testimony, there are lots of

882
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: more testimonies that come.

883
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Man.

884
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: I had a gun in my mouth too, Man. I

885
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: lost the best friend to heroin. Man, I was a

886
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: drug addict. I was drinking too much. I deal with lust.

887
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: All this stuff comes at me and so it's like

888
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: constantly I'm just having to toss it back up to

889
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: the Lord and give it back up to the Lord.

890
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: And so I think the key is to answer your question.

891
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: I know, it wasn't a question. But every night before

892
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: we go on stage. And I got this from watching

893
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: documentary from Michael Weaver and the band Big Daddy Weave.

894
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: But they check in with each other every single night

895
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: and they pray before they go on stage, and they

896
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: just empty themselves. Did you have a fight with your

897
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: wife today? How you doing? Are you okay? Did you

898
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: not feel good today? You have a headache? You know?

899
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: Are you worried about bills back at home? The weather's

900
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: been crazy in Nashville last few days, so wives and

901
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: girlfriends and stuff have been kind of concerned and worked

902
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: up and you know, uneasy, and so that's shaken us

903
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: up here on the road. How can we pray for

904
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: our wives and girlfriends back home? And it's just that empty.

905
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: I think that that's what it kind of looks like.

906
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: And then we go on stage and we're like, okay, Lord,

907
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: we got nothing on our minds and nothing on our

908
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: hearts but you, and we just want to do your will,

909
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, because it can easily be about I've grown

910
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: so tired of those lights, I really have. And I

911
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: think that, you know, to a fault, it's almost like,

912
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I'm sick of it, you know, because

913
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm not Jesus and I am not God, and I

914
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: have a tendency to play God some days with my

915
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: friends and family even that are still on the fence

916
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: about Jesus, and they're watching me do it night after

917
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: night after night, you know. And how can I continue

918
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: to give John the Baptist is one that's stuck in

919
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: my head. How do I decrease as Jesus increase.

920
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: So Jesus as as one man in his incarnation, in

921
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: the person of Christ, in his humanity, would be in

922
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: these groups of testimonies like you're talking about, and whether

923
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: it was healing or casting out a demon or sitting

924
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: with compassion with people, and he would have to retreat

925
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: and he would have to go into the wilderness into seclusion,

926
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: and he would have to make sure that he had

927
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: time with the Father in quiet, away from people. Is

928
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: that something you think about too.

929
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's funny that you mentioned that, because I

930
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: don't know what scripture is, and maybe you do. Honestly,

931
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: I was a little I was a little like hoping

932
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: that you'd preach to me today, honestly and with the

933
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: amount that you know. But I'm serious because I was

934
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: coming in here going, I don't know much about this book.

935
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot about the Bible and his word

936
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: and and and as I dig in more and more

937
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: and more. So I was a little bit intimidated coming

938
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: in here this morning. I really think I really was.

939
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: But there's a scripture, and maybe you you could tell

940
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: me wherever. There's a scripture where Jesus had just healed

941
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: and hung and healed with a whole bunch or healed

942
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people on the shore, and he

943
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: was out in a boat, and he took the boat

944
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: and went to the other side, kind of trying to

945
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: find get some away time, you know. And all of

946
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: a sudden he gets to the other shore and there's

947
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: another group of people, and I think the Bible said

948
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: it was like a bigger group of people, A larger

949
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: group of people were waiting for him on the other side,

950
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: and it was like and what he did at the

951
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: Bible said he had compassion on that. And so I

952
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: think about that as I go from city to city.

953
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: And it's so hard, Paul said, apart from Christ, my

954
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: flesh can do no good. And so I think about

955
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: that as I go from city to city and crowd

956
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: to crowd as I minister and meet people, hear testimony

957
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: after testimony that are so beautiful and amazing and powerful

958
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: and encouraging, but also they can be really heavy and

959
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: wait and waity on my shoulders, and next thing you know,

960
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: I start to carry that yoke.

961
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

962
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: And so about three or four cities ago, I was

963
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: in the back of that I went to the bus.

964
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: It was raining and we're in Chicago. I went to

965
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: the back of the bus to make a coffee. I

966
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: had the coffee kit back there, and I started to

967
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: pour over and I sat back and had reached the end,

968
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: and I took a sip, and I set it back,

969
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: and I fell asleep. About seven minutes. I fell asleep

970
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: for and I woke up. Come to me. All you

971
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: are weary, and I will give you rest. You hadn't

972
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: come to me, he said, And I felt that with

973
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: everything that I was, he said, you haven't even made

974
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: time for me today. I've been going to everybody else.

975
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: I've been going to my band members. I've been going

976
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: to the promoter. I've been going to the tour manager.

977
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I've been going to strangers. I've been going to coffee shops,

978
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: I've been going to a grocery store everywhere, and it's like, man,

979
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: but you didn't come to me. And for seven minutes

980
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I rested with him, and it was like I had

981
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: spent an eternity with him, and I woke up like, well,

982
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't even need that coffee. I was just restored,

983
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: and I felt rested. I felt rejuvenated. I felt ready

984
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: for the show. I wasn't even And I hate to

985
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: call them shows because they're not shows. They're for real.

986
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: It's really my life exactly. Yeah, praise good, thank you.

987
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna go shoot shotguns after that, Yeah, we are,

988
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: and so praise God for that too. And so I'm

989
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: just like, man, Okay, I'm not ready for this show.

990
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: But he knew I would come to him in there,

991
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: and he used a coffee. He brought me in there

992
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: in the back of that bus because I wanted a

993
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: coffee more than him in that moment. And then all

994
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he got my priorities straight. And so

995
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: he does that to me often, where he'll use I

996
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: love antiquing, I love to go, I love antiques, I

997
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: love old things, civil war stuff, battlefields. He'll draw me

998
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: to those places just to teach me a lesson, just

999
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: to show me that he's there too. And so I'm

1000
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: looking forward to the lesson that's here today. I don't

1001
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: know what it is. I just it's an honor to be.

1002
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: With you lesson every day. Yeah, you know, you never know. Yeah,

1003
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like you're you're you're open to it,

1004
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: and that's yeah. So much of this it's just Lord,

1005
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: like you said, just be open.

1006
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to miss it. And I've

1007
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: missed it. I missed it for a long time, saying

1008
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: thirty one years. I missed it for thirty one years. Same,

1009
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: and so it's like, man, I I don't want to

1010
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: miss it anymore.

1011
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: Well as I think about your story that I think about,

1012
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: you know, the analogy, the illustration you had with with

1013
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: Jesus on on the shore and the disciples leave and

1014
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: he's by himself and he sees another another crowd finds him.

1015
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: Well after that, in sequence, the disciples are on the

1016
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: lake and storms, big storm comes and we could oftentimes

1017
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: see ourselves in the shoes of the disciples more than

1018
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: we can, you know, the incarnate son of God, uh.

1019
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: And they were terrified after everything that had happened. Everything

1020
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: they'd see, all the miracles they'd seen. They were terrified.

1021
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: The sequence after that is when they get to the

1022
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: other shore and it's the the maniac, it's the it's

1023
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: the demon in the cave that ends up being Legion

1024
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: and that it's interesting it if you think this isn't

1025
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: necessarily biblical, but it's interesting to think that. Was it

1026
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: that the force of that demon in the cave that

1027
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 2: comes out, what do you want with me? Son of God?

1028
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: You know? Was that connected to the storm? Maybe?

1029
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1030
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: And and actually Anthony sitting right here, you and I

1031
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: both been to the spot, right, we've both been to

1032
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: that that cave and and yeah, well yeah, the tags

1033
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: one of the water and we thought about this scene

1034
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: standing on that on that shore, cave right behind us,

1035
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: and you think about the boat coming in and you

1036
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: could see the demon man, the demon, the demon in

1037
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: the man would have been able to see that boat

1038
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: from a long way off, seeing the storm and see

1039
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: it a very tired Jesus. Yeah, and see them hit

1040
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 2: the shore. And the Bible says that he's he's naked,

1041
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 2: and he's cut, he's he's cut himself, he's broken chains.

1042
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: The whole community everyone stays away from this cave, and

1043
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: he runs out there and screams at Jesus. Think about

1044
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: the disciples. It doesn't mention them. What in the world

1045
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: is going on with those guys. They're in the storm.

1046
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: Jesus calms it. They have seen the wildest stuff, and

1047
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: now they get to the shore. This demon that they

1048
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: might even heard about comes running out of the cave,

1049
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: streaming naked, cut, chains broken, and they're just like, I imagine,

1050
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in that boat, like I ain't coming out

1051
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: of this boat. Man. Ye little faith, yeah yeah. And

1052
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: that so that after yee of little faith, now we're

1053
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: back in the night, is still going So anyway, I

1054
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: guess I think about as you as you kind of

1055
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: make the illustration of you with the crowds. Sometimes the

1056
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 2: storm comes after that.

1057
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man.

1058
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: And we have to be prepared for the storm because

1059
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: if we look to the storm, then the size of

1060
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: the storm because becomes our God.

1061
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Really yeah wow.

1062
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: And instead we look to God in the size of God,

1063
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: who has power over that storm, the one that's able

1064
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: to calm it becomes our peace. So I guess in

1065
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 2: just hearing your story, I would say the storm is coming.

1066
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: It's it's coming for me. It's going for a man here,

1067
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: it's coming for you. Will we be looking to the storm?

1068
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 2: Will be? Will we be looking for the demon running

1069
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: out of the cave or looking to our Lord? That's

1070
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: the question, right.

1071
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 1: I knew he'd get preaching, praise God.

1072
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm preaching. I don't know if I'm preaching.

1073
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: No, you're preaching, all right, And I needed to hear

1074
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: it because it's exactly what it is. Right. Yeah, I

1075
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: gotta look to the storm. I'm gonna look to him.

1076
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: And how big Sometimes the storm can get. It can

1077
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: get big, man, real big and real fast. You can

1078
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: have a phone call today and you go, what am I?

1079
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: What's going on? You know?

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00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 2: You can have a bus fire tomorrow.

1081
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1082
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: But and that's what we know as Christians that we

1083
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: will have trouble. Jesus says, we will have tribulation, but

1084
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: we take heart He's overcome the world.

1085
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: Amen. Yeah.

1086
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: So then that goes back to you preparing yourself training. Yeah, yeah,

1087
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: train yourself for godliness, Paul says to Timothy, train yourself

1088
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: for godliness. The author of Hebrewho says solid food is

1089
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment,

1090
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil. How

1091
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: do we do that? How do we train? How do

1092
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: we practice well? Paul also says that all scriptures breed

1093
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: out by God and profitable right here for teaching, for reproof,

1094
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: for correction, and for training and righteousness. That the Man

1095
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

1096
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: So as long as you got this your training, you

1097
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: have everything you need right here to be complete, to

1098
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: be aimed, to be mature, to eat solid food. Like

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00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: the author Hebrews said, don't drink milk. Man, you're done

1100
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: with milk. You can't drink milk anymore. You're done. Solid

1101
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: food is the only way you grow. So if this

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00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: is part of your life on the road, if you're

1103
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: reading that and also not with your band and not

1104
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: with your church, those are different. That's that's amazing. You

1105
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: should do that. But you need Ben needs his own

1106
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: time moving forward in the word. It sounds like you're

1107
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: doing that. You walked in here with it in your hand.

1108
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: That's a great start. Yeah, But man, he's the first

1109
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: one to ever come in here and to do that.

1110
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know.

1111
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: We've had many pastors on you, so Yeah. If you're

1112
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: on the road and you wake up and you go, okay,

1113
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: you remember how you had that feeling where Jesus said,

1114
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: you haven't come to me yet? Yeah, John, the beginning

1115
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: of that whole, that book, and the beginning was the Word.

1116
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: The word is with God. The Word was God. So

1117
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: if you were going to come to the Word, that's

1118
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: coming to Jesus, because the Word became and flesh. So

1119
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: if he says, then you haven't come to me yet,

1120
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: you could answer that by saying.

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00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Lord, yeah, here I am.

1122
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm coming, I'm coming exactly. Yeah.

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: How crazy though, Thank you. I needed to hear that.

1124
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: That's why I came here today. But the noise, the lights,

1125
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: the smoke, the horns, the sirens, the busyness, the reels,

1126
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: the scrolling, the socials, the junk, the stuff that's passing away,

1127
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: that's stubble under our feet, that means nothing in the end.

1128
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: What does it really matter? You know? And so it

1129
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: it's just Jesus that matters. And so how do I

1130
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: that's my prayer is how do I continue to fix

1131
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: my eyes amongst the silly fame and the songs and

1132
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: the number ones and the things that are to come

1133
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: or maybe not to come? And am I going to

1134
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: be fine if they don't?

1135
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: Are you asking or telling?

1136
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: You're asking? I feel the Holy Spirit? No, I'm just

1137
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm asking myself that am I going to

1138
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: be fine if it doesn't come? Am I going to

1139
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: be fine without another number one? Well?

1140
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: Only you could answer that. How closely are do you

1141
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: hold number ones?

1142
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: Not very close? I've only had one.

1143
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: What about your label?

1144
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good question.

1145
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: It'd be weird if they don't care about that.

1146
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: Lord Father, No, I know they do, and I think they.

1147
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: Do, which they should they let's not let's not kid here.

1148
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: They should have. They would be weird if they were

1149
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: trying to run a business and didn't want to succeed

1150
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: with the business. But sometimes we attach ourselves to the business.

1151
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: That's that's the problem with the industry. With me was

1152
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: that I became the business. I was the widget that

1153
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: was being sold. So it's easy to say I I'm

1154
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: running a business and I've detached myself from it. You

1155
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: and I can't do that.

1156
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to know the beautyful? Well, first of all,

1157
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm not as handsome as you, so I'm not as smart.

1158
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but no I do. But I

1159
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: also I also know this. I don't care who drops me,

1160
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: who picks me up. Where I'm at doesn't matter. I

1161
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: don't care. Here I am, Lord send me. I've got

1162
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: work to do, and I have met people all over

1163
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: this broken country, from here to California, Sam Quentin prison.

1164
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where I go. That's a line of

1165
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: the there's a line of that song. I just can't

1166
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: get that song out of my head. Doesn't matter where

1167
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: I go. All that matters is I'm found. And it's

1168
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: like I'm going to preach the gospel everywhere I go.

1169
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: So I don't care who's pushing me, who's helping me.

1170
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I'm gonna have the door open right now.

1171
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: Your voice is opening the door. Amen, I've got work

1172
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: to do it. What if I lost my voice?

1173
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: Exactly?

1174
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: And I think a good question. I think about that too.

1175
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: Well, then you go, Well, the Lord gave me my voice.

1176
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: The Lord opened the door with the voice that he

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: gave me. If the Lord takes my voice away, because

1178
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: he's sovereign, then he certainly will open another door, will

1179
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: if he wants me speaking?

1180
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: Amen?

1181
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just as easy as that's so good,

1182
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: or if he does, then he wants me to be

1183
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: quiet for a little bit. Either way, he's good.

1184
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: Pastor Granger Smith, y'all.

1185
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm giving me.

1186
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you credit at all that Holy Spirit

1187
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: God has anointed you for such a time as this,

1188
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: and and you've ministered to me today, and so I

1189
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: just needed to hear this. I needed to come here

1190
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: and leave the tour of twenty five people to come

1191
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: here and hear this. And I knew it when I

1192
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: left this morning. I knew it. I needed some solo

1193
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: time with the Lord and I needed to hear what

1194
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: you just had to say to me. Well, all of that,

1195
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: my spirit needed that. Let's get practical. What your what

1196
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: your Bible looking your Bible reading looking like every day? Yes,

1197
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm in that thing every day and I think specific

1198
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: practical psalms. Okay right now you're in this, Yes, okay,

1199
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I literally am just reading right

1200
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: through all of them as one and fifty of them. Yeah,

1201
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot, so and but I feel like my

1202
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: soul has just been so this music thing has been

1203
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: such a has been such a roller coaster, and so

1204
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: I feel like the ups and the downs, and right now,

1205
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm okay, Okay, Lord, I'm available,

1206
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm here. What do you want me to say? I

1207
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: feel like there's been some days where I feel like

1208
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: these storms in such turmoil my soul. I'm just like

1209
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: the pressure. I feel like I'm in gathsemine. I'm like,

1210
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: where is all this pressure coming from? Why do I

1211
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: feel this way? Why can't I bear another testimony from someone?

1212
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: Why can't I hear another thing? Why can't I you know? So, anyway,

1213
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: these songs have just been sapped to my soul and

1214
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: David realizing that Dave has already gone through it, you know.

1215
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: And so what you just said, that's actually happening right now.

1216
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: You're saying, yeah, I'm kind of at my limit right now,

1217
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: hearing testimony.

1218
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, welly, and being on the road for a week

1219
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: is you know, so this is no the Lord he's

1220
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: so he's so kind, but this is no you know,

1221
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: this is such a divine appointment for me today because

1222
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: of being here, because of being weary, because of being

1223
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: worn because of you know, another selfie, another picture, another thing,

1224
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: another encouragement, another you know, and so I needed this

1225
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: time with him today. But the Psalms have just been

1226
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: lately for me, have just really got me through so

1227
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: much just because of the ups and downs and day.

1228
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's, oh, my soul is crushed. You know what.

1229
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: My enemies are coming for me, Like I can't handle

1230
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: them anymore? Will you take them? A wet Lord, help me?

1231
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: I need praise God. I'm on the mountain to I'm

1232
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: doing great. And it's just like I feel like the

1233
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: squirrel that I am. The psalms just they do no

1234
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: administer to me so much and just to the to

1235
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: the worn out thing back to Jesus was always retreating

1236
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: back to the wilderness.

1237
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: That has to be If our Lord did that, yeah,

1238
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 2: and he was, he was fully man and fully God.

1239
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: If he was doing that, what does that mean for me?

1240
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know. I couldn't find fully man.

1241
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going backing up. I can tell you that. Yeah,

1242
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: And that alone time is hard. But I think that

1243
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: that alone time is hard to that that alone time

1244
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: with the Father is hard to come by.

1245
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: It's hard to come by you.

1246
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: And there are so many things keeping us from that,

1247
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: and the devil is always just like one more thing

1248
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: or one phone call or one little interruption or one

1249
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: little you know, Well, I've got half an hour to go,

1250
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, half an hour gone by.

1251
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: You're staying on the bus right now or in the

1252
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: hotel room. We're well, I'm doing you personally, I used

1253
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: chang the bus. Yeah, you choose the bus. Yeah, which

1254
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: is difficult. Yeah, I would make that choice too, But

1255
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: that's difficult to have. Yeah, alone time with the Lord.

1256
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: You're literally living on a bus.

1257
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: I bought a couple of rooms for the guys. Uh yeah,

1258
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: the tour. The tour has got a room for us.

1259
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: And then I bought another room for the guys.

1260
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: It's always weird to like to pack a bag and

1261
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: go when you leave what I'm already comfortable with, to

1262
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: go just in the door and come right back out

1263
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: of it.

1264
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: But I also know the alone time is important for

1265
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: that boys kind of voice to me too about getting

1266
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: a loan and spending some of that time with the

1267
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: Lord and digging in and so. And I felt that

1268
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: same exact thing today. But the Lord always speaks to

1269
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: me when I drive, I'd love it. And so the

1270
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: drive here, hour drive here was fabulous, and I just

1271
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: love that time that I get with him and it's

1272
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: just me and him, and I feel like the world's

1273
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: going a million miles an hour, but I'm sitting still. Yeah,

1274
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: and it's like I just love it anyway. So he

1275
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: always speaks to me when I he always comforts me

1276
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: when I drive.

1277
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: So let's go back. Let's go back to the psalms

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Speaker 2: because which I think is that's encouraging and it's awesome

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Speaker 2: that you're in the psalms right now, but let's make

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Speaker 2: sure that it's practical so that you go. Yeah, I read,

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Speaker 2: I read whatever it might be, Yeah, five a day

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Speaker 2: or I read ten Psalms a day. Yeah, And when

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Speaker 2: I get to number one fifty, I have a plan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because as men, you and I, if we don't have

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Speaker 2: a plan, it's easier to be like, I don't really

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Speaker 2: have to skip. I'm not skipping anything because I don't

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Speaker 2: have any skip. I'm just kind of just flying where

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Speaker 2: wherever the spirit leads me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's kind of how I've been rolling. And

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Speaker 1: but there's a there's a small group that I've joined

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Speaker 1: back in Tennessee, and so that's great, but it's also

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: not great because being on the road. They pray for me.

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Speaker 1: It's about thirty five men meet five point fifteen. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Craig Campbell puts it on so at his place in Tennessee,

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: not far about an hour out of Nashville. He's got

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Speaker 1: a cool little restaurant there, and we all meet five

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Speaker 1: point fifteen to six fifteen in the morning, the Iron

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Speaker 1: Men of.

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Speaker 2: Eagleville, Okay.

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Speaker 1: And so it's a really cool thing. It's like a

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Speaker 1: bunch of old cowboys and rednecks and NASCAR fans and

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: a couple of younger guys. And I found myself there

1303
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: and I got an invite and it was just so

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01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: it's been so good for me. And I'm a morning guy,

1305
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: so I love to wake up early, and it's really special.

1306
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: But what I found is as those guys pray for

1307
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: me as I'm on the road, it's hard to find consistency.

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Speaker 1: And the Lord has dealt with me. This is also

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Speaker 1: so holy Spirit. I believe what you're about to say.

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Speaker 1: And you don't even know what well, you don't even

1311
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: know it yet, but I already know this because the

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Speaker 1: Lord has been dealing with me. I was just at

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Speaker 1: Craig Mischelle's church in Oklahoma City last week and the

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Speaker 1: Lord's been dealing with me on regularity and tithing and

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Speaker 1: regular tithing to places as I leave there. Each place

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Speaker 1: I go is different, but he pours his spirit out

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Speaker 1: like honey onto that place a little bit differently every

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Speaker 1: night too. Sometimes there's one hundred people that come to

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Speaker 1: the altar, sometimes there's only five. I started comparing, is

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Speaker 1: it me? Did I not do a good job? Did

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01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: I not sing enough for you? Did I not do

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Speaker 1: good enough for you? And he said, don't you dare

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: compare what I'm doing in each city.

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Speaker 2: But as I as I.

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Speaker 1: Am more regular in your life, I need you to

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Speaker 1: be more regular too to me. And so this is

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Speaker 1: holy spirit. That's what I'm saying. Is what you've already

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Speaker 1: said is so holy spirit. Because I'm a fly by

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Speaker 1: the seat of my pants squirrel man that opens up

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Speaker 1: my Bible and goes praise the Lord. This is after

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Speaker 1: my soul. I'm going to keep reading it and it's

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Speaker 1: awesome and I love it. But as far as a

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Speaker 1: plan goes, I'm the worst planner ever. You can talk

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Speaker 1: to any one of my friends.

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Speaker 2: So there's ever one plan you could have. Let's do this.

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01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: You could play Bible Roulette all you want. But at

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: some level, what we start doing as humans is we

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Speaker 2: start seeking in the Bible what we're feeling and trying

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Speaker 2: to get something to satisfy our feeling. Instead of God

1340
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Speaker 2: dictating I tell you, I tell you who I am,

1341
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Speaker 2: we start looking for who he is based on I

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Speaker 2: need a loving Father right now. We look for that.

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 2: I need a sovereign, almighty Lord right now. I'm looking

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01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: for that. I need the Jesus that calms a storm

1345
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: right now, I'm looking for I need the Jesus that

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Speaker 2: heals right now, I need the Jesus that weeps. Right now.

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Speaker 2: We look for those things. It's so good, and God

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Speaker 2: is all of those things all the time, So let's

1349
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Speaker 2: let him dictating. Wow, so a plan could be as

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Speaker 2: easy as tomorrow morning you get up and you read

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Speaker 2: Matthew one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and work tomorrow you read or.

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Speaker 2: The next day you read Matthew too. Imagine that. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's simply. It could be as simple

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Speaker 2: as that. And don't give up on the psalms either,

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Speaker 2: do that. You could play Bible roulette all you want,

1357
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: as long as you have one thing that's regular and God,

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01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: God is telling you who he is based on the

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Speaker 2: early Church fathers, and based on that the the apostle

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: that wrote it in that order, or the letter that

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01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: he wrote in a specific order for your soul, because

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Speaker 2: we can go to read Philippians four, yeah, without reading

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: Philippians one, and we could go and find do not

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Speaker 2: be anxious about anything. Or we can go to Philippians

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: two and see that Paul is worried about a few things.

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Speaker 2: So we need to see that in order. So thank

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Speaker 2: you for that. There's a we could talk offline. There's

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Speaker 2: there's a million plans, but I would say the simplest

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Speaker 2: way is tomorrow you start reading. I'm gonna read Matthew

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Speaker 2: one tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna read Matthew won tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is exactly what I'm kidding. And then you're gonna

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Speaker 2: text me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I exactly am gonna text you, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you what I heard, man, and what I found got.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited with this because literally it's funny and Bible

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Speaker 1: study and I've been to so many different Bible studies,

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: and I've done so many different Bible studies, and we'll

1379
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: get in to the word and we'll get into flippings

1380
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Speaker 1: or we'll get into Genesis, and that's kind of what

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01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: we've been working through Genesis uh in Eagleville, and and

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: so it's just like, man, there's all these things, but

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: I am so guilty of going to the word and

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: being like, man, I need an encouraging word. And it's

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: so funny. The other night, I just I was, I

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01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: was so anxious over that of of and this is

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Speaker 1: so awful. But it's like I got on stage and

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01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my goodness, I don't have anything,

1389
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Speaker 1: Like I don't have anything for anybody tonight. Do I

1390
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: need to bring an encouraging world? Do I need to?

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: You know? And I'm like, Lord, that's not good and

1392
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with that. And he

1393
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: blew my mind with his spirit that fell and everyone

1394
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: was just praying for everyone, and it was amazing. But

1395
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: it was like I had to say nothing and it

1396
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: was spoken over me just two weeks ago that I've

1397
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: gotten so good at hearing from God in the noise,

1398
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: that I'm not good at hearing from Him in the silence. Wow,

1399
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: And that wrecked me because our life, you know, you know,

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: the road life is so noisy and so loud and

1401
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: the inn ears and the things and the frequencies and

1402
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: the drums and the symbols in our ears as we

1403
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: run around the stage, and it's like it's so loud,

1404
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: and I'm so good at hearing from the Lord and

1405
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: those things is stopping and praying and hearing. You know.

1406
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 1: I feel like this that it's a lot like Pinocchio

1407
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: and Geppetto in the way that when I go on

1408
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: stage empty like that, I just feel like he hooks it,

1409
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: strings up and he kind of dances me round. And

1410
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Speaker 1: I've gotten that relationship with him and I love him

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01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: in the most beautiful way, in the most sweet way,

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: and I'd love I'd love that our relationship like that.

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01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: But I truly believe that this the meat. That's where

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01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: we're getting at today with this. That's where you're pointing

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: me to today is I'm getting fed lots of meat in

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: different places. But I feel like it's like, man, Okay,

1417
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: I need a regular diet. Yeah, I'm saying that about myself.

1418
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: I know I need that. And this is in absolute

1419
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: tune with what the Holy Spirit has been ministering to

1420
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: me about tithing and giving back, because he says, no,

1421
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: I want to be more regular in your life. I

1422
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: need that from you. I need more regularity from you.

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01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what I felt all week this week, because

1424
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking is you're you are right now. You're

1425
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: in a season where you're hearing the Lord. Yeah, and

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: that season has been several years. It sounds like, yeah,

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: But knowing our God, there very well could be a

1428
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 2: season where you don't hear from him.

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01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean he's not working? Does that mean he's

1431
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: not there on the throne. No, But listen to David

1432
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: Psal I'm thirteen when he says, how long, o Lord,

1433
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 2: will you forget me forever? How long will you hide

1434
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: your face from me? How long nlest I take counsel

1435
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: in my soul and have sorrow in my heart all

1436
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: the day? How long shall my enemy be exalted over me?

1437
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Consider and answer me, Oh Lord, my God, lift up

1438
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: my eyes unless I sleep the sleep of death. Lets

1439
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: my enemy say I've prevailed over him, Lest my foes rejoice,

1440
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: because I'm shaken. This is a man who's not hearing

1441
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: from the Lord. So what does he do in the

1442
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: moment when he's not hearing, In the season of not hearing?

1443
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: He goes back to what he remembers, but verse five,

1444
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 2: I have trusted in your steadfast love. My heart shall

1445
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: rejoice in your salvation. I will sing to the Lord

1446
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 2: because he has dealt bountifully with me. That's that's the

1447
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: armor you need, that's the foundation you need for the

1448
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: season when he doesn't speak anymore, because you might not.

1449
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: He doesn't promise, Ben, I'm always gonna speak to you.

1450
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna fill you with joy. You're gonna feel

1451
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: me all the time. Maybe not because I mean just logically,

1452
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: A lot of times when the Lord pulls away from

1453
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: us is when we hit our knees and go, where

1454
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: are you God? Which is a good question because we're

1455
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: in communication when we say that. So you're right now,

1456
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: you're armoring up. If you're in a season right now

1457
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: where you're hearing from the Lord, you're feeling him, you

1458
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: feel him all in your spirit. That's amazing, And this

1459
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: is and you need to you're eating right, and the

1460
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: famine's coming, so get some fat on your bones so

1461
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: you can make it.

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: That's such a way. Yeah, I can't tell you how

1463
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: timely that is for me, just because of how what

1464
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: I've been hearing from him and where I'm at right now.

1465
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: I literally and the regularity was it like that's everything.

1466
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: That word was regularity. I need you to be regular,

1467
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: m And it's like, okay, as our lives are everything,

1468
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: but it seems like you know my life at least especially,

1469
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm just every being pulled in a million different directions. No,

1470
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: I need you to be regular with me.

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: And you know what you could do too, is when

1472
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: you when you on show days, because you're gonna be regular,

1473
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 2: you're gonna be reading this on show days. You can

1474
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: give to your word of encouragement, which you probably usually

1475
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: do right, Yeah, you could do it from your reading

1476
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: you had that morning.

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01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: Wow, Praise God.

1478
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: So that'll that will encourage your listeners and it will

1479
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: also it'll feed you and nourish you because you're gonna

1480
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 2: have to process what you read that morning, going okay, Lord,

1481
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna skim this because I'm going to use

1482
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 2: something from your word to encourage these people tonight. And

1483
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: it keeps you from getting in this like routine. If

1484
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: I say the same thing, I say, yes, that's what

1485
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: I would do. I say the same thing, and it

1486
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: just becomes I don't even know if I if I'm

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Speaker 2: hearing myself say it yes, but you're like, no, I

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Speaker 2: gotta I'm gonna go back. It'll be seven pm right

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Speaker 2: before you go on stage. You're like, I got to

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Speaker 2: go back to that Matthew one more time to see

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Speaker 2: Matthew seventeen. What was I looking at there?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 2: You never that could be a cool thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Pray Scott, when are you coming out on

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01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: the road? I mean, are you? Uh? I need to

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: You've encouraged me so much today. It's like, now I

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01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: can't go without you.

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: Man, I am I don't want to do it without

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: I am a text away. I've got to thank you.

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Speaker 2: Two guys right now, we're working through the Bible. We're

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 2: working through something called the McShane plan. It's one time

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01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: through the Old Testament, two times through the Psalms, and

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: two times for the New Testament in a year, so

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: it ends up being about four chapters a day.

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: So these two guys, we're about twenty days in and

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01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 2: every single day, every morning we'll do a voice text

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: to each other different thoughts. And both these guys have

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01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: not read all the way through the Bible in their lives,

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: so some of the stuff is brand new.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. Yeah, so much is brand new.

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01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: They're kind of reacting to it. But man, it's it's

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 2: so fun.

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Speaker 1: Man, I can't even imagine. Good morning guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so this is like the axe attack this morning,

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01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: I guess because everybody went there so had some interesting

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: so you know, we just like, man, I saw something accident.

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01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: I got to talk about guys every day every single morning,

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: and so well, get ready for you, get ready anytime,

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: get ready.

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Speaker 1: For some voice memos coming your anytime.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I literally can't tell you how holy spirit

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01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: today has been for me because that Yeah, I just

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01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: needed that. I needed that. I need to hear it.

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01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: I've been feeling it, you know how that is how

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01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: silly we are, how how how lazy we are. How

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, but I'll do it sometime other time. Yeah.

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: And then he's like, no, I've been telling you this,

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01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: and you know I've been telling you this. Yeah, but

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just like man, you know, where the flesh

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01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: is weak, the spirit is willing, and it's like I

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01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: just I feel that with you today.

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01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: So we didn't tie something up. What about your dad?

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: How's he doing?

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: Wow? Praise God for my dad. He my dad has

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: been listening to Christian music. My dad has said I

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01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: love you Nus numerous times to me, and it's just like, man,

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01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: he it's been one of the sweetest transitions. I don't

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: know if he's given his life to Christ yet. He's

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: just he's still got some cows, some beef cows in Vermont.

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01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: He just is like watching this thing, and I just

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01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: feel like he's so proud, and he's so proud of

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01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: what's happened. He tells everybody that, and everybody I run

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: into tells me he says, you have no idea how proud.

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: But I think what the coolest thing is is God

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01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: has placed as the same way he's done in my life,

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: believers all around my parents, pastor friends and people, and

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01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: and I went home for Christmas and the last time

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01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: I saw mom and dad and they invited me to church.

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: It's it's just amazing. My mom and dad said, will

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: you come to church service with us Christmas? Yes, ma'am,

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01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: so that's how Yes, ma'am, Yes, sir, so, that's how.

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: That's how I let That's how I last summer my

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01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: family was they invited me to church so and praising.

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01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lord is certainly stirring. Yeah, and so many

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01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: times you see in a family, it starts one place

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01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 2: and it just starts spreading. Yeah, you know, I'm watching

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01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: It started in Europe from Lydia by the by the river,

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01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: and Paul goes and there's all these women evidently praying,

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01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: and he goes to her and or he preaches to

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: all of them and she responds, and then her households saved,

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: and then it just keeps writing. And then the whole

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01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: city of Philippi is the whole church because of that.

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01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: So man, it might, it might, the Lord might use you,

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01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: and then your whole household gets saved. Yeah, that's what

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01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: we'll be praying for.

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01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. You want to pray, let's do it. Yeah.

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01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: Lord, what a what a privilege it is to to

1570
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: to think of you, and talk of you, and and

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01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: and and wrestle with you, and and sit with your

1572
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: people to talk about you, uh, and your incredible love

1573
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: as you have sent your son to the cross to die,

1574
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: to be raised on the third day so that we

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01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: could be forgiven the one thing that we desperately need,

1576
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: all of us as humans, as sinners born with this

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01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: disease that we just need to be forgiven, reconciled to you, Lord,

1578
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: and you have done that, You provided away through your

1579
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 2: son Jesus and God. As we sit here and we

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01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 2: we we discuss these incredible things as two brand new

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01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: brothers who literally met today in this in this house,

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01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: in this room. Where as we go our separate ways

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: which will be you know, are as we as close

1584
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: as we are right now, we will end up so

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01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: many miles apart here just a little bit of time. God,

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01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: will you cultivate a brotherhood and a friendship between us?

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01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: Lord?

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01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: Will you use Ben's story uh in your your gospel

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01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 2: to all the people that listen to this message?

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01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: Will you? Lord?

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01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: Will you? Will you save his family? Will you save

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01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: his dad?

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01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: Lord?

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01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: Will you in your kindness will you do that? God?

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01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: Will you?

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01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: Will you save him? And in his mom and and Lord,

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01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 2: will you give him? Will you give him strength during

1598
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: his concerts when he's when he's singing and telling your

1599
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 2: very glorious But Lord, will you also will you draw

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: him in the quiet times? Will you open his ears

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01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: and his heart through your word as you revealed yourself

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01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: in these very pages of your book that you have

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01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: preserved for us. Will you show him that you are

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: always there for him, and that when he comes to you,

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01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: it could be simply in the back of the bus

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01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: with the pages of the Bible. What do we thank

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: you for this opportunity that you have certainly ordained for

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: all this in Jesus' name.

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: Amen.

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01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate

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01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: all of you guys. You could help me out by

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,480
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