1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday where he fairs. This is Jaguars Happy Hour 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and now number fifteen World Acts throwing people to watch. 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Jay Peace, Shad welcome in. It's Wednesday, Jaguars Happy Hour, 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, John Oser, senior writer Jaguars dot Com 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks NFL media analysts. And here we are 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: in the off season. We've got a lot to discuss 7 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: this week. We've got coordinator hires, reported position coach hires 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: to to delve through all the reports. Nothing official as 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: of the taping of this podcast. Some senior Bowl standouts. 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: Both you guys are in Mobile but now, Bucky, you 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: were in l A. But we'll cover that in just 12 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: a moment. The quarterback off season carousel has already started 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: around the league and Super Bowl is Here is Super 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Bowl Week and the Chiefs are joining the COVID list 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 1: because of haircuts. But get into that coming up, all right, guys, 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Urban meyern I wanted an elite staff and their names 17 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: popping out now reported names again, nothing official until the 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: team announces it. But the reporters are Daryl bevil Is 19 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer the passing game coordinator, and quarterbacks. Coach. 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's start there on offense, guys. This is where the 21 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: focus will be in the off season because of the 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: quarterback situation, Bucky. So these really have to be right now. 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: They do have to be right. I think what's interesting, 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: um when you bring on Daryl Bebo, and I think 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: it's important to lump and Brian's Schottenheimer. I think it's 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: important for Jaguars fan to understand that both of these 27 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: coordinators have had success working with young quarterbacks. If you 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: go back and look at Daryl Belbo obviously in Seattle 29 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson and how this team, that team was 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: able to get to the Super Bowl with a young 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: quarterback who was playing more as a game manager early 32 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: who evolved into being a playmaker later in his career. 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: If you go to the Jets, this name is going 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: to make maybe some guys cringe. But Brian Schottenheimer was 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: on that stuff. I think when they had Mark Sanchez 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: and what they did with Mark Sanchez when they went 37 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: to a couple of ANFC championship games and those things. 38 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: And so to me, what his signals is that Urban 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: has a plan for how they're going to play early. 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a run heavy team that 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: plays physically, and they're gonna try and teach the quarterback 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: to make sure they take care of the football. But 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: if you do those things, you can win a lot 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: of games. JP. You can cringe all you want at 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: the name Mark Sanchez, but you know I covered Colts 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: teams uh when Sanchez was young that lost to Mark 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Sanchez and the Jets when he was I don't know 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: if he was playing at a high level, but they 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: were winning with it, so clearly Schottenheimer knows what he's 50 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: doing on that front. I thought it was interesting the mix, meaning, 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: you know, they can all do everything, but Bevil is 52 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: a little bit more known for being a run guy, 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer more for being a past guy. A good balance there. 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: It certainly sounds like Schottenheimer will be, you know, quarterback 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: coach slash passing game coordinator. Doesn't sound like they're hiring 56 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: a true quarterbacks coach. Schottenheimer is a guy. He's been 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: around the league long enough where he's certainly deserves more 58 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: of a title than straight quarterbacks coach if you're going 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: to play that. I don't know that they care that 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: much about titles, but it's you know, all of the 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: concern when Urban was first hired was the whole college coach, 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: college coach college. Well, this is an experienced staff now, 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: you know. I assume that he will be listening and 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: telling these guys, hey, tell me what I don't know. 65 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: You guys are the NFL guys. He's got a lot 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: of NFL experience to tell him what he doesn't know. 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: You have a bunch of low ego guys. I can 68 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: say this about having known Bryan since he was younger. 69 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Obviously I played for his dad, Marty in Kansas City. 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: He understands what winning looks like. And I think when 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: you go all the way back and you put it 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: all together, all of these coaches have come from winning 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: programs and they went at a high level. I would 74 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: say Revel and Shotenheimer probably exposed their most winning in Seattle. 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: But they understand what it looks like. And I think 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: as Urban is kind of kind of filling his way 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: around the NFL game, they certainly can help him in 78 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: that regard. But I don't think you can underestimate the 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: amount of experience that they're going to have on that 80 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: side of the ball, and also in that quarterback room. 81 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I think for a young quarterback who is bright or whatever, 82 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: I think they will help him transition very very quickly 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to being able to play it right away. They've also 84 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: got guys JP who have worked with each other and Bucky, 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: you may no more detail about this than I do, 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: but correct me if I'm wrong. Bevil Schottenheimer, wide receivers, 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: coach have been together, They've been on staffs bare minimum. 88 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: They know each other. How important is that sort of knowledge, Bucky, 89 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: when you're trying to put together a staff. Oh, I 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: think I think it's very important because you want to 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: make sure that everyone is speaking the same language. I 92 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: think the one thing that is really clear, especially if 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: you have a young team, because remember the Jacks are 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: very very young, you don't want mixed messages in different 95 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: position rooms. You don't want one person saying one thing 96 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna call it this way, and another person 97 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: saying something else and it's termed a different way. You 98 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: want everyone to be on the same page. And I 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: will give credit um to Urban for putting together a 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: staff where every there there's a level of synergy from everybody. 101 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: We're talking about the offensive of the ball, but even 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: on defense, there's a level of compatibility and everyone kind 103 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: of understands it. I think early on, when you're dealing 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: with young guys, you want the coaches to be able 105 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: to stand in the front of the the room very confidently 106 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and do the teaching so that everybody understand it and 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: you don't have any gray areas or or vagueness to 108 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: what is being asked and installed. I had one more 109 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: question for Bucky JP if go yeah, um, you know, 110 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: we followed teams JP and I followed the league, but 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: most of our studying is about the Jaguars, So I 112 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: know Bevil, uh. I don't know personally Schottenheimer. I haven't 113 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: talked to him since I was covering with the University 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: of Florida when he first transferred there. I did a 115 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: story on it, which makes me old and you know, 116 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: frankly him old too. But define what Bevil's gonna bring 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: in terms of everybody associates him with Seahawks offense, you know, 118 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: but what would you say that he's bringing to the 119 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: table that Urban loves. You know, here's the thing, like 120 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: now everything is so blended. I would say both of 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: these guys no West Coast offense and some way shape 122 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: or form, they've kind of moved away from that. If 123 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: they as they've gotten more experienced in the National Football League, 124 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: they know the running game and they understand how to 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: marry the run game, but the past game, which is 126 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: very very important because for the defense you want it 127 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: all to look alike. I think their experienced with young quarterbacks, 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: they understand how to take some of the pressure off 129 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: of the quarterback in terms of how they call the game. 130 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: The thing that would be interesting as we get closer 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: to it if we ever get privy to the play 132 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: calls in the verbage In the past, I know Schottenheimer 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: and Beba like their play calls could be very verbose, 134 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: and you just wonder have they evolved to the point 135 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: where they've been able to cut some of that down 136 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: so guys can play fast and free without having to 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: learn all of the extra stuff that each and every 138 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: term signifies when you use it in a play call. 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: Gruden with hopefully, hopefully not hopefully they learn how to 140 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: scale it back, because the key to getting the young 141 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: guys to play fast is so they can just understand it, 142 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: they can get it and they can go and with 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: so many young players, it's different when you have a 144 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: veteran skills that skill set of players, or a veteran 145 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: offensive line, and in a young quarterback, that's one thing, 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: but everybody's young, like they all the babies and newbies, 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: So you just want to make sure that everyone can 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: understand it so they can have to ground running when 149 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: they do take take the field. All right, let's look 150 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: to the defensive side now. Joe Cullen is reportedly the 151 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and a former defensive line coach here in 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville's last year was my first season here, John, I 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: think your second season back here. You can hear him 154 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: a mile away. He's got a distinctive approach and voice, 155 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and he's been a d line coach ever since then. 156 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Before then obviously in the NFL, this is his first 157 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: go around as a coordinator, and John, it's good to 158 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: see him back around in this environment and I'm curious 159 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: how that will translate to the front of the defensive 160 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: room for the first time. John, Well, it's you know, 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: I have no doubt and I'm not in I'm not 162 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: in meetings every No, I didn't play the game, but 163 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: if if you're around coaches, you get a feel for 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: guys who are going to be comfortable in front of 165 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the room. Look, the only reason Joe Colin hasn't been 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: a coordinator already is the off field stuff, which everybody 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: who follows this note He's more than qualified. This chance 168 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: to be a coordinator is long overdue for him. I 169 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: have no doubt that he can get in the room. 170 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, I know from football people that I talked to, 171 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: from guys who can watch tape and study x AS 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: and knows he is in an above good, elite pass 173 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: rushing coach. What I care about with the coach are 174 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: his guys going to respond to him? Are they going 175 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: to buy in? If you've met Joe Colin once, you 176 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: know players are gonna love playing for him, Absolutely love 177 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: playing for him. But it's not like he's soft on 178 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: him JP. This is a guy who was built to 179 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: be a coach. He can be tough on guys. Players 180 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: love him. Players are fiercely loyal to this man. I 181 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: have no doubt he can coach pass rush. He's gonna 182 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: have his eye on that part of it. But to me, 183 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, I would be stunned if Joe Colin is 184 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: not a high end level defensive coordinator. This guy was 185 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: born for this job, and it's overdue, not John. I 186 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: think John brings up great points in terms of the 187 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: de leicship ability. Coming from Baltimore. They're going to have 188 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: all the tricks and gadgets up front to really be 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: able to attack, pass protection, stop to run, and do 190 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: those things. I think everyone who has come out of 191 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: that Baltimore system understands how to really tricked the offense 192 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: against the run and the past. The most important person 193 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: on this defensive staff will be whoever is responsible for 194 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: the secondary. I know it's been reported that Chris ash 195 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: may come. Typically defensive coordinators come from either linebacker spots 196 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: or secondary spots because they look at the game from 197 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: back to front. And because the NFL is a pass 198 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: heavy game, you have to be able to make sure 199 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: that you have coverage. And so because um as John 200 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: alluded to, he Joe come is gonna be so focused 201 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: on the front, someone has to make sure that they're 202 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: able to tie in the back in the coverage to 203 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: fit what his imagination is dreaming up for what they 204 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: want to do with the front seven. And so the 205 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: secondary coach, if they hire an additional cornerbacks coach, they 206 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: have to be great teachers, and they also have to 207 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: be great tacticians because they have to sit in the 208 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: room when the coaches are getting together and make sure 209 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: that it all marries and that it sound because you know, 210 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: the play calls on the other side of the field 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: are also great when it comes to the X and os. Yeah, 212 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: and that's the other trick to once they get into 213 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: the personnel side of this thing, it's not like there's 214 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot of experience back there that's going to be back. 215 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Henderson's in the second year, he didn't play much. 216 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: Who knows about d J. Hayden the safeties, uh what, 217 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: they had eleven different lineups in the secondary last year. Well, 218 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: you know that's you know, know what's gonna be out 219 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: there to work with. No, that's that's that That's why 220 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be really really interesting because when urban 221 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: Meyer was at Ohio State, and I know the game 222 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: isn't the same in terms of college to the pro, 223 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: but one of the things that they wanted to do 224 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: is they evolved from being a team that played man 225 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: to man all the time where they're playing like quarters 226 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: cover four will He talked about where your corners are 227 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: pressed and they're kind of locked up on their guy 228 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and then the safeties are hovering around ninety yards from 229 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: the box to being more of a cover three team, 230 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: a vision and break team. Meaning if you can envision 231 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: what the Indianapolis Coast did where they played zone as 232 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: on the quarterback, athletic players reacting to the vision of 233 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback and making quick reactions, that's what they evolved to. 234 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: Which version of coverage and defense will we see with 235 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: this young team? In my mind, because they're so young, 236 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: it has to be something that's fairly easy for them 237 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: to digest and you can kind of rick it up 238 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: with your pre snap disguises. What you want the scheme 239 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: to be very very easy for them to understand so 240 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: they can play fast. Yeah, I wonder JP and Bucky. 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how these guys will look 242 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: at it, because we really haven't talked to very many 243 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: people to to know what they think about personnel, and 244 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: they're not even into personnel yet. But C. J. Henderson, 245 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: you would think as a starter beyond that in the secondary, 246 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: you know. I I'm not saying the guys who were 247 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: here now can't start, but I don't think there's anybody 248 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: who's a lot to be a starter in this secondary. 249 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps C. J. Henderson, although he played what six seven 250 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: games JP, you assume he's a lot because the draft position. 251 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: You assume he's a lot because of talent. Beyond that, 252 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think all bets are off back there. 253 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: So I agree with Bucky whoever is coaching those guys, 254 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: the ability to mesh what the rest of the defense 255 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: is doing, but the ability to make sure these guys 256 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: can play and come in because you're gonna be dealing 257 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: with But I would assume you would sign at least 258 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: one guy back there. I'd be surprised if there's not 259 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: a safety veteran safety sign. But it's all gonna be new. 260 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: There's that could be any cohesion with this bunch, you 261 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't think. So it's uh that area. To me, They've 262 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: got two areas to build a defensive tackle and maybe 263 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the entire secondary. Yeah. Now, the good thing in this 264 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: year's draft, like there are a number of young cornerbacks 265 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: and stuff that you can find. But in looking I 266 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: was I was looking up some notes that I had 267 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: on Chris Ash like I would anticipate you can see 268 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: a lot of man to man in the back end, 269 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: some form of it, like we can think about quarters 270 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: in those things. Because the Baltimore Ravens did a lot 271 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: of that um kind of stuff with the players that 272 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: they had. Marlon Humphrey was pressed up a lot. You 273 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: would see Marcus Peters playoff, but it was a lot 274 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: of man to man coverage, and so that means you 275 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: have to really be committed to getting a level athletes. 276 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: There are some who would tell you that man to 277 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: man is probably the easiest thing to teach because it's 278 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: a cat defense. You've got that cat and wherever he goes, 279 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: you follow. So then it's a matter of of of 280 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of understanding how to handle the pics and those things. 281 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: The New England pages have done it for years, and 282 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: they've done it with lesser athletes because that's what they do. 283 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: They live in it. And so when you think about 284 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: Urban Miri and those relationships, he may want to put 285 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: in something that's pretty simple to install, and you just 286 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: really work on getting better through repetition and trying to 287 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: bring in a level athletes to play in those respective 288 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: positions outside. Is it easier Bucky to quote play fast 289 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: and man when you're a kid? Um? I think so, 290 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: And I think it's easy to play fast and man 291 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Um, when you play man the Man, 292 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: it can take a toll on your legs because every 293 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: day in practice you're running around, you're chasing the GPS 294 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: is going to go bananas because you just you're just 295 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: running a track meet every day. But when you have young, 296 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: fresh legs, you can do that. And when you play 297 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: man the Man, what you do is you eliminate some 298 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: of the easy throws that we see teams living with, 299 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: some of the bubble screens, some of the r p 300 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: O stuff. It takes part away. And so if you 301 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: can get another player, so you have C. J. Henderson 302 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: on one side, you're going to get another man to 303 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: man corner, whether that's a veteran or a young guy. 304 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: You put those guys in and normally when you try 305 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: and play this style, your two best players are your 306 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and then you build other nine guys after that. 307 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: And so that's what Urban did it Ohio State, That's 308 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: what he did at Florida. It's always worked for him. 309 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Of later those big profile things, I think he certainly 310 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: want to see if you can do that initially in 311 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and then if they have to change their change. 312 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: But I think that's probably the mindset coming into it. 313 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: You can get corners this year at thirty three, right, 314 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, you can get corners, and the thing will be, um, 315 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: do you want long corners, ranging corners? What style corner 316 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: do you want? But you absolutely can get those guys. 317 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: I meant three, they're going to have their picks. So 318 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: it's a good time to do it. And we kind 319 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: of have to be able to live with some of 320 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: the growing pains early when you have a bunch of 321 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: young guys on the field, because they're going to make 322 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: their mistakes. But as Irvin said, if I can make 323 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: it where they're playing, we're letting this effort and they're 324 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: playing fast. They can't overcome some of their mistakes with 325 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: their effort. All right, This Jack Bars Happy Hour on 326 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: a Wednesday. J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osier. By 327 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: the way, should we keep this named happy Hour? I 328 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: think this thing aired at eight am, so I don't know. 329 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: Somewhere somewhere in the world, right, what what shall we 330 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: name this? Johnny gotta the ideas well. I'm not very happy, 331 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: so it's uh. I've always struggled with the name to 332 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: start with. Um, Yeah, I hadn't thought about it whole. 333 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's really an opportunity. I think we should 334 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: lean on Bucky's expertise. I think we should play something 335 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: off that name. I mean, he is the guy, he's 336 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: the star of the show. Star. I don't I don't know. 337 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: We can't use sticks because that part is brand No. 338 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of feel like I kind 339 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: of feel like I kind of feel like we're in 340 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: a huddle. How about the season behind the Oh no, 341 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: we don't want to do that. We did it all 342 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: last year. We did it all last year. We don't 343 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: want to be behind the change anymore. We don't have 344 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: to be in a two minutes the entire moving forward. 345 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: We're moving forward. Okay, Well, here's all we'll do. We'll 346 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: throw somebody's out in like a Twitter poll and see 347 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: what the people think, and then we'll come back next 348 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: week with a different We've got a few more topics 349 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: to get to today before we get out of here. Um, 350 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. You guys are both covering the Senior Bowl. John, 351 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: you were over there, Urban and Trent Bulky we're not 352 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: over there, but you're over there. And a lot of 353 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars scouts obviously were involved over there this week Bucky 354 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: were covering on television from that room you're in right now. 355 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: I think was a different angle different, right, I mean, 356 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: how different is that when you're covering it but you're 357 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: not even there. Uh, it was a lot different. But 358 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: I will say this JP, I was a lot warmer. 359 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have to worry about out what's the daily 360 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: weather report going to be? Like? I just clicked on 361 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: the light, turned on the monitor, and I was able 362 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: to watch practice. It looked like it was pretty though, 363 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: Like the weather looked like it was nice. Um the 364 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: new stadium that they played in Man nice. That was 365 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: a nice stadium. So it was cool. I mean, it 366 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: was good to see. I'm actually excited that they were 367 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: able to get it done because I was one of 368 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: those that I couldn't imagine how they were going to 369 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: make it happen with all the NFL personnel coming in, 370 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: all of the players coming from all over the country. 371 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: But they over there, they were able to do it, 372 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: and to do it without a hit. She was pretty good. 373 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: Tell you how they did it. Yeah, And a few 374 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: thoughts because I come at it from a different angle 375 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: when we go to the Steamer Bowl JP. As you know, 376 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: we are there and we talked to some of the 377 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: college players, but we're really not watching that event the 378 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: same way maybe Bucky is. It's why it's so important 379 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: to have Bucky, you know, involved, was because he's watching players, 380 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: he's breaking down film, he's watching these guys in the field. 381 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: When we're there, we're pursuing Jaguar stories. So most of 382 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: what I did the Senior Bowls, you know, j P 383 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: talk to people about the Jaguars, trying to talk to 384 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: some UH scouts, people who understand the game and can 385 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: provide that insight. Most years we wind up talking to 386 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: Bucky over there. You know. So you've been up. I 387 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: just logged up this podcast insider tip. I just almost 388 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: logged off, so um. But I can tell you why 389 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: it worked because the NFL people involved, we're committed to 390 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: making it work. And what I mean by that is 391 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: for fans who've never been there, the Senior Bowl is 392 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: what I call it garb Fest, meaning you can't walk 393 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: down the streets of Mobile and not see people in 394 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: their NFL guarden. And I'm talking from the time you 395 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: wake up anytime they're not at practice, you're you're seeing 396 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: on the streets of Mobile. We all know because we've 397 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: been there. You see them out at night, if you're eating, 398 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: you see them hanging out. It is a convention and 399 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: there's a couple of night spots that I've never been 400 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: to JP. I think it's a couple of I don't 401 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Yeah, but you go in there. 402 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: Most years it is packed. Credit to the NFL, credit 403 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: to the coaches involved. I was there two nights and 404 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: it was eerie, guys to see that place. I walked 405 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: down to the Establishment Beats, which is the most popular place. 406 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: I went down to the Establishment in in my hotel 407 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: and it was vacant. There was not so these guys 408 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: stayed distanced, they were not tempted. Whatever it was. So 409 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: I think it was one positive test out of three 410 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: thousand tests that they gave last week. So the NFL 411 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: and the people involved did it right. That's how it worked. 412 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: And uh, the only drawback I would see, and this 413 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: is purely from you. Guys both know me. If it's 414 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: good for me, it's good for me. Um. The eve 415 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: out to the new stadium is a hike. Now, this 416 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: is not glad. People's where you sort of go over 417 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: there and if forced you can get a quick uber. 418 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: You know you're driving at the South Alabama, which I 419 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: didn't love, but really, j P, you cannot build an 420 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: event around my laziness. The Old Shell Road in University 421 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: is not close to downtown John and the dew Drop 422 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: is on the way. They have a great cheeseburger by 423 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: the Lace for next year. But it's a great event. 424 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: And I'm with Bucky get his thoughts on this, because 425 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit last week Buck after I 426 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: got back the the theme you heard last week and 427 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: everybody involved and it turned into almost a cliche, was 428 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: how important the Senior Bowl is this year because it's 429 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: the only event. But it really is the only event, 430 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: and it's a football event, and they were able to 431 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: pull it off. I had one analyst tim me last 432 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: week he would not be surprised if every Senior Bowl 433 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: play or got drafted this year, and he was probably exaggerating, 434 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: but the point was there's going to be a familiarity 435 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: with these guys and and gms who were who were 436 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: wanting not to make a mistake in this COVID time. 437 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: They they may lean on guys that they've had their 438 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: hands on, so to speak. Yeah, I agree with you. 439 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you, uh, John, because the familiarity being 440 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: around those guys, seeing those guys on the field, um, 441 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: it makes it different. Without the combine limited pro days 442 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: and no access to private workouts. The Senior Bowl was 443 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: the last time that you saw these guys run on 444 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: the grass doing football stuff, and so that will weigh 445 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: that lasting impression will really weigh heavily in the minds 446 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: of evaluators when they have to make some of these 447 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: tough decisions because it's in uneven playing field. Some guys played, 448 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: other guys didn't. How do you juggle it? Those guys 449 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: that you were able to see at the Senior Bowl, 450 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: even those that were coming off COVID opt outs, they 451 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: will have a bit of an advantage because of the 452 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: last time that you saw ball and those guys were 453 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: the ones that are at How much is the fact 454 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Buck that yeah, I'm sorry JP interrupted you, but the 455 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: fact that the scouts weren't out You've scouted, You've been 456 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: the frontline guy before. Scouts weren't on campus at all 457 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: this year? Is that going to change things dramatically? Is 458 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: there any thoughts on that Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna 459 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: be a significant deal. Um, because you weren't able to 460 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: get on campus unless you have like a roller deex 461 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: of contacts where you can really figure out and piece 462 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: together the background on all the prospects. It makes it very, 463 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: very difficult. And because now more than ever, you need 464 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: to know exactly who you're bringing into your locker room, 465 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: understand how they fit the culture that you're attempting to build, 466 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Understand how they learn and their coach ability. You really 467 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: have to have like a wealth of contacts and experience, 468 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: and this this year will be the year where you 469 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: see kinds of difference between the have the haves and 470 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: the have nots when it comes to the evaluators. If 471 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you have a staff will evaluated guys who understand how 472 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: to look at the tape and project our players can 473 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: play um versus information gatherers. I think you have a 474 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: huge advantage because you don't have the opportunity to do 475 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: some of the other stuff that we've always done to 476 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of figure it out and to help us get 477 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it right at the end. So I got a quick 478 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: question about scouting, and we've got a couple of other topics. 479 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. It could be the last 480 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: day it's called that. We'll get to that a little later. 481 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: Twitter poll coming up. What what do you gather when 482 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: you're scouting a football game in the stadium that you 483 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: don't get when you're sitting at home watching tape? Why? 484 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: Why is being at a game so important? Well, it's 485 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: really important when it comes to quarterbacks. That's the most 486 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: important position that you must scout live. A couple of 487 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: things when I go scouter quarterback live, I want to 488 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: see the arm talent. I want to get a feel 489 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: for how stronger quarterback's arm is. Can you throw it 490 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: through inclement conditions? Can you cut through the wind? Is 491 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: different now in Jacksonville because you know, eight games a 492 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: year should be fair nice when it comes to the 493 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: weather and those things. But if you have to go 494 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: on the road, if you have to play in Cleveland, 495 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: if you have to play in New England or Buffalo, 496 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: is your quarterback does he have enough arm strength to 497 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: be able to fit it in the Other thing with quarterbacks, 498 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: you want to see how they interact with coaches and players. 499 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: Years ago, I forget what bowl game it was, but 500 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: down in Birmingham, Paxton Lynch. When I went to see 501 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: him in a bowl game, he said at one end 502 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: and the rest of the team was all the way 503 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: on the other. And he never really talked to the coaches. 504 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: He didn't really interact with his teammates. And so for 505 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback who was expected to be after the gym 506 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: and the head coach, he's the most important person on 507 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: your team. He has to be able to engage. What's 508 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: his body language like? How does he act after good plays? 509 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: After bad plays? Does he appear to be communicated with 510 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: his coaches and teammates? Those things matter for other guys. 511 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: Is still some of the same stuff. How are they? 512 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Are they into the game? Are they not into the game? 513 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Are they alluse with their attitude? But seeing players live, 514 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: particularly quarterbacks, is really important. In most teams. They won't 515 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: let you put a final grade in on a quarterback 516 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: unless you've actually seen him in action. Lock Birmingham Bowl, 517 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: by the way, Auburn beat Memphis at Legion Field in Birmingham. 518 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Probably beat him to sleep too. He did not have 519 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: He did not have a great day at the office. 520 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: You did not have a you did not have a 521 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: good look. He was he was kind of sucking and pouting. 522 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't a good look. I just remember, I remember 523 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: writing this is not a good look for passing. Reminder, 524 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: head coach Urban Meyer is locked in and ready to 525 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: deliver a championship to Northeast Florida. Don't miss your chance 526 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: to be at the bank this fall and watch history 527 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: and the making. Lock in your tickets for the season, 528 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: placed a deposit down at jaguars dot com Limited Lower 529 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: Bowl tickets. Remain if you have questions called nine oh 530 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: four six three three, two thousand and learn more and 531 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: let's go Jaguars. Is Jaguars happy our The NFL quarterback 532 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: carousel has already started to spend, and it's going really 533 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: fast already. Oh my goodness, the trade, the Rams and 534 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: the Lions. What in the world, Bucky, and we're only 535 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: just beginning this thing. Well, I think, JP, what you're 536 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: seeing is the importance of making sure that you have 537 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now. Personally, I'm gonna say this is the 538 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes effect. I think what you're seeing is if 539 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: you're on a team and you're looking at your quarterback 540 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: and you're trying to envision your quarterback engage in a 541 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: shoot up with the Kansas City Chiefs. Is your quarterback 542 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: good enough to knock off Pat Mahomes in the Chiefs 543 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: And if it's not, you have to think what do 544 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: we have to do to put ourselves in a position 545 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: to knock them off? And unfortunately for us, we're the 546 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: a f C. So the gatekeeper to the Super Bowl 547 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: will always be Pat Mahomes in the Kansas City Chiefs. 548 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: So as you're building out your team and you look 549 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: at not only Pat Mahomes, but Josh Allen, Mark Jackson, 550 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, so many young quarterbacks that are able to 551 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: play and play at a high level, you have to 552 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: have a quarterback that can do it. In l A 553 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: and Detroit, I think this is a situation where you 554 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: have Sean McVeigh who was annointed as the offensive whiz kid. 555 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: The plays look great the first two years when they 556 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: were in the league, they were to talk of the town. 557 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: They revolutionized the way that we were gonna think about 558 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: offensive football. And then the funny thing happens that happens 559 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: in the league. The league catches up and then the 560 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: xs and ohs they didn't pop and come to life 561 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: like they used to. And so like most kids, he 562 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: threw that toy away. He wouldn't open up a new 563 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: toy and Matthew Stafford and so it's very much like 564 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Christmas where you get rid of all the old toys 565 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: and you're bringing a new one. And so he happened 566 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: to get a new toy, Matthew Stafford, while the Rams 567 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: decided that who needs to draft for the next four 568 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: or five years, We'll just go get all the stars 569 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: and we'll rock with it. So we'll see how it 570 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: plays out. This is a it's gonna be a case 571 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: study and team building in the next decade. Can you 572 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: win without draft picks? Well, it's absolutely a case study. 573 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: And it's a little bit different to Jalen Ramsey trade. 574 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: To me, Uh made a little made a little more 575 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: sense on the Rams part from a long term point 576 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: of view, because they were trading form I forget how 577 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: old Jalen was uh at the time, So you were 578 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: giving up to what they thought would be late round picks, 579 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean the late first round picks for a player 580 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: that you know, you pretty much knew what you were 581 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: getting in Jalen Uh, some of that great JP some 582 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: of that Yeah, okay, yes, yeah, yeah, you're yeah, it's 583 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: a it's a full glass. But so but you knew 584 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: exactly what you were getting and barring injury, you knew 585 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: what level he was going to play at. Staffords a 586 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: little bit different because of age, you know. Uh, I 587 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: get why they did it, but he's exactly right. You 588 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: must have a quarterback. And for them, they they believe 589 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: they're a quarterback away, but a little older, Um, a 590 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: little less of a knowledge of exactly what you're getting. 591 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he has played at a high level. Statistically, 592 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: he's played a high level of times, hasn't gotten the 593 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: team over the top. So you know, can he do that? 594 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Is he that guy? Certainly worth the gamble, had to 595 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: make the gamble, but not as much of a sure 596 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: thing as the Ramsey trade quarterback. Of course, Trump saw 597 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: else in this league. You make moves like this when 598 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you've got a shot at a franchise quarterback. 599 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: You're you're willing to gamble and give up much more 600 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: when it's the quarterback position. Yeah, John, I think it's 601 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: interesting because, um, this is a team when it comes 602 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: to the first round picks. And I get this from 603 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Charlie Castley. Charlie Cassy says that first round picks hit 604 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: about rate in terms of guys being a successful and 605 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: productive starter at the end of four years. And if 606 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: we even look at our our own experience down in Jacksonville, 607 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: where we've had a ton of top ten picks, how 608 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: many of those games, right, so, how many of those 609 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: guys actually turned into players? And so it's almost like playing, 610 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: let's make a deal, like what's behind during number one, 611 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: two or three? And what do you want? Sometimes it's 612 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: better to take the players. And I think as we 613 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: take it back to Jacksonville, I wonder when it comes 614 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: time to it with Urban, is Urban like one of 615 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: those who leans towards stars or does he feel like 616 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: a collection of good players can get you over the top. 617 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: That is the difference in the college game, where you 618 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: have a bunch of five stars, it's easy to hand 619 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: it off to Ezekiel Elliott and all those guys Michael 620 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: Thomas and whatever. But if you don't have that, can 621 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: you play with some two and three stars and have 622 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: a level of success. I wonder what he will lean 623 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: towards coming out of that collegiate background. I could see 624 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 1: Bucky dressed for let's make a deal and like a 625 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: beer bear or whatever, like a like a chef for something, 626 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, Monty Hall calls on him. Yeah whatever, Wait 627 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: wait wait Brady, alright, alright, I'm absolutely love it, love it. Alright, 628 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: final thoughts here, We got three minutes left before Zoom 629 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: kicks us off. So Super Bowl fifty five right around 630 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: the corner in Tampa Bay Sunday. The Bucks the first 631 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: team to play in their home stadium for a Super Bowl, 632 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: facing the defending champion Chiefs, who can't even get a 633 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: haircut without COVID knocking guys off at least early in 634 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: the week. DeMarcus Robinson and Daniel Kilgore on the list. 635 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: This week, Tom Brady has been alone watching film at home. 636 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: It'll be twelve days just selling the kids have been 637 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: out of there, Buck, Who do you like? I like 638 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: the Kanna City Chiefs in this one because I think 639 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: ultimately it comes down to the talent and the speed 640 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. They won their last twenty 641 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: six Pat mahomes Is thirty eight and eight as a starter. Um, 642 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: when they're rolling, I don't know how you I don't 643 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: know how you contain them. And so I just think 644 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: their firepower and the fact that the last time they 645 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: played Tyrrek Hire went for two hundred plush yards in 646 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: one quarter. Um. I think they're scary, and I think 647 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will try and play like a 648 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: little slow down basketball. But if this game breaks into 649 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: a fast break game, I don't think they can compete 650 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: in it. So I just have to go to Kanna 651 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. They the Bucks would have to prove to 652 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: me that they can knock them off because the Chiefs 653 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: have just been too good. How about it, John, Yeah, 654 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: I agree with Bucky and um in Kansas City wins it. 655 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to me. I love the history of 656 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: the game. Uh, the Chiefs all of a sudden, very 657 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: quickly have a chance. To you repeat, which is it's 658 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: almost been lost this year. Maybe it's because of COVID, 659 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: maybe it's because everything else is going on. But this 660 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: is a franchise. Now. Remember when Elway went from the 661 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: guy who could never win the big one to all 662 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: of a sudden in all time great because he won 663 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: too at the end of his career, all of a sudden, 664 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, if he wins this, you know he was 665 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: always the guy who was the greatest coach, who hadn't 666 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: well now, all of a sudden, if he wins back 667 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: to back, I get that it's my home story and 668 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: my home is gonna be set up to be an 669 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: all time great He's on his way there, But all 670 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, this Chief's team twenty six like. But 671 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: he said, you're talking some stratospheric numbers historically that there's 672 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: really no sign they're gonna stop. They may be playing 673 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: their way into some of the conversations that really only 674 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: a few elite teams have had. So they gotta win it, obviously, 675 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: But I think they win it, and I think all 676 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, in a few years, we're looking back 677 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: on this on this time as you know, eight time 678 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: that maybe we didn't appreciate when it was going on. Historically, 679 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: it's got a chance to be historic this franchise. I 680 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: think this game is close until the Chiefs pull away 681 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: with all those weapons. I'm not counting Tom Brady out well, 682 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: you'd never do that. But I think in the fourth 683 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: quarter of the speed and everything will take over for 684 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City and the Chiefs. Chiefs by ten, Okay, that's 685 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: what I think Discord did I put out there was 686 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: maybe thirty four um. I think It's one of those 687 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: games that's entertaining because I think it's a back and 688 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: forth game and much like last year, Knsy didn't play 689 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: well in the Super Bowl. Then oh in the fourth quarter, 690 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: Old pet Moles and I have time. But we had 691 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: a minute, We got a minute. Could the Bucks slow 692 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: it down the Patriots against the Ram's, you know one, 693 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: remember that. I know it's a different era, but it 694 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: almost seems like they may be able to pull that 695 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: kind of thing off with Grady. I think they can. 696 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: I think that they followed the blueprint at the Buffalo 697 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: BeOS used in Week six, where they dare the Knsy 698 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: the chief to run the ball as much as they 699 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: can and then play really good red zone defense. I 700 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: think that's the way that you have to play them. 701 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: You cannot let the ball go over the top of 702 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 1: the defense. They are the Golden State Warriors of the NFL. 703 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: Don't let Steph Curry hitting any three points because it's 704 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: excites the building. Make them shoot layups and all that 705 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: other stuff. They can have all the layups and ducks 706 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: they want, but don't let them shoot threes because that's 707 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: the quickest way to get blown out of the building. 708 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm J P. Shadrick. This is 709 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: jaguar Is Happy Hour. We'll see what it's called next week, 710 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: but thanks guys. We'll talk to you then.