WEBVTT - Selects: How Floods Work 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:01.320 Hi, everybody. 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.440 I'm gonna take you on a trip through time back 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:08.000 to January sixth, twenty twelve, when the world was supposed 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:10.680 to end. Wait, was that when the world was supposed 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:12.320 to end? I think that's when the world was supposed 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.880 to end. I don't even remember. Now, that's how bs 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.200 that myan calendar thing was. At any rate, I'm annoyed now. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.360 So I'm just gonna go ahead and let you listen 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.239 to how floods work. Bloods are a terrible tragedy. We 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:32.920 explain how they literally happen in this episode. Welcome to 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:40.080 Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.760 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.440 Charles W Chuck Bryant, and that makes this Stuff you 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:52.560 Should Know. The podcast the Saturated podcast. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.960 This week super Saturated Floody Podcast. Yep. I don't know 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:57.840 why this came to mind. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.000 I didn't see any flood that happened on the New 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.120 Is it just I think I happened across it searching randomly, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:03.800 and I thought. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:04.920 It's a good one. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.000 Ye haven't covered that one yet. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.880 Flooded stuff always creeps me out. Oh yeah, yeah, I 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.800 think it goes back to my days in Toledo as 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.640 a young boy. Many times growing up in my house 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.680 on Beverly Drive, there were there the mommee would flood 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.399 and my basement would flood as a result, and sometimes 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:27.840 it would come all the way up to like the 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.560 top step. Really yeah, and I just think about, like 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.200 all my dad's tools down there, like underwater, weren't supposed 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.240 to be. It was just really creepy because you just 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.920 opened the door and step on the landing and then 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.400 there's just water. You can kind of see, like the 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.600 top couple of steps that was you know, suggested all 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.400 the other stuff that was down there. So I think 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.120 since then, I've always like been fascinated and creeped out 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.040 by the idea of things that are supposed to be 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:58.200 above ground submerged like ships when we talked about the 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.520 Bermuda Triangle, like a plane, yeah, down there in the trench, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.360 never to be found. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.200 Like, yeah, that's creepy. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.920 Yeah, same thing with floods. Man, It didn't. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.799 It doesn't creep me out like that, but I get. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:13.760 It, okay, So Chuck, Yes, I take it you are 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:14.680 familiar with flooding. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:15.280 I am. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.440 Do you remember the one in ninety four done in Albany, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.119 the Great Flood, the Flint River flood. No, oh man, 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:23.760 it was all over the news. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.240 Like they were like in Albany, Georgia. Yeah, I don't 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:26.560 remember that. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:31.280 There were caskets, like four hundred caskets were loosed and wow, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.799 we're just kind of floating around. They were they had 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.240 this weird tendency to congregate toward trees or around trees, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.560 and they so people started lashing them too, that because 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.480 they had to have a court order to even grab 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.079 the caskets. But apparently it was the second worst cemetery 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.880 disaster in the United States. Couldn't find the fourth course 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:52.919 nineteen ninety four. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.160 Oh, I was in Athens at the time. I was. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.359 I was not up on news. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.680 It was a big it was a big, big thing 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.480 price but it was really creepy. You can see pictures 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.400 of like caskets just kind of floating around. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:06.239 Wow. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.440 Yeah. They recently found a human school that they think 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.160 was part of the remains that was moved by the flood. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:14.040 Jeez. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.920 Yeah, it's amazing how out of the news loop I 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.200 was while I was in college. Yeah, because it was 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.040 pre internet. Yeah, I didn't get the paper. I was 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.680 in college, who gets the paper and reads it. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.480 I knew people who sold the paper. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:30.760 I didn't have TV, so yeah, I knew about class 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.760 and working at Mexcali grill and sleeping late and all 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.440 of the kinds of things that I can't talk about. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:37.240 That's awesome. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.960 I remember the Gulf War that happened. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.160 Well because of that Internet that came after your college years, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.080 like two decades after your college years. You can see 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.880 video of the news footage from nineteen ninety four. So 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.960 you're fine stepping back in time. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:53.680 I will do so. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.640 Well, let's talk about flooding, Chuck. First, I guess to 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.840 understand floods, we need to give a brief prime of 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:05.000 the hydrological cycle. Yes, we do, if you ask me. 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.320 There's been about the same amount of water on Earth 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:11.440 for a long long time. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.680 Yeah, I thought this is fascinating. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.560 Yeah, but it hasn't always been in the same place 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:15.120 as we know. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:20.039 No, and it's not the same water necessarily, right, There's 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.039 a constant loss and gain of water. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.760 Yeah, every day you lose water obviously to the atmosphere. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.760 Where like the solar rays and other cosmic radiation just 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.159 blasts water vapors into like nothing you're gone by longer. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.120 Water. Sorry, as that is going on. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.120 Volcanic activity in the core or not the core necessarily, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.120 but in the inner Earth is releasing water and it 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.400 about balances out on a day to day basis. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.239 But did you know that volcanos release water? 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:48.880 Sure? After I read this. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.840 Yeah, we even did a Volcano's Work podcast and I 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.640 don't remember talking about it releasing water. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:54.279 But I don't either. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:59.160 When water is generated or introduced into the upper Earth 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.440 in the atmosphere, it comes from volcanos. Thank Sixty percent 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.080 of volcanic gas is water vapor. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.520 So it about balances out on a day to day basis, 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:09.560 which is pretty remarkable. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.480 Yeah, almost as if it's happening that way for a reason. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.200 I know. Are you familiar with the anthropic principle? 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:15.839 No, what's that? 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.480 We'll talk about it sometimes. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.520 Right, Oh, it's not directly relating to this. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.680 No, it's about the concept of why everything is so 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.480 falling and has fallen so perfectly into place that we 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.080 are able to notice this and say, wait a minute, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.600 it almost seems like we're supposed to be here, right, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.120 And the anthropic principle is like, yeah, and there's like 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.240 five million other worlds out there that didn't happen like that, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.920 so we aren't there to say, wow, it's almost like 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.600 everything fell into place, so we're supposed to be here. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:47.200 Interesting. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.080 Yeah, well see you just told me about it right now, done, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:50.880 trick to you. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.039 Uh. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.640 Water can be all around the Earth in three different forms, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.760 as everyone knows. You have liquids, rivers, oceans, lakes, rain, 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.679 solids we've talked about and this this kind of collects 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.200 a lot of our podcast in a way, like the 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:12.480 clouds and now we're talking about the Antarctica. Lots of 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.599 frozen water that case at the poles the Antarctica, or 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:17.960 it can be gas. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.560 Which is water vapor in the air. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.400 Yes, and it's all moved around by the wind thanks 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:23.880 to the sun. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.200 And remember I can't remember which podcast we talked about 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.279 it in, whether it was the sun or clouds or something. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:33.039 But wind is created by the exchange of air. Is 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.800 warm air is heated at the surface and rises, Yes, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.520 cooler air rushes in to fill that vacuum. Yeah, there's 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.320 your wind, pal Yeah. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.640 And then well once that warm air rises, though, it's 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.000 also going to get colder and form little droplets of 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.840 water which form together to form clouds, which we went 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.600 over in fluffy little clouds, right. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:57.320 Yeah, because the sun heats the ocean surface, that evaporates, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.920 like you said, it rises, forms clouds, and then eventually 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:05.039 clouds become pregnant with rain and rain falls down, right, 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.640 that's right. As the rain falls down it fills waterways, rivers, streams, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.920 that kind of thing underground waterway first. Yeah, but for 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:15.600 the most part, some of it does go to fill 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.600 aquifers and that's storage, but the vast majority of it 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.160 makes its way back to the oceans, where the process 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:27.040 begins again and everything is complete in the circle of life. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:27.600 That's right. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.880 The cool thing here is wind is pretty consistent across 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:36.120 the globe. Wherever you live, your weather is pretty consistent. 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.720 You might think if you live in Atlanta, like, oh, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.480 that's crazy in December here at sixty five degrees. But 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.520 by and large, if you look at the big picture, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.160 your weather systems are pretty consistent on a day to 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.120 day basis, although in the case of flooding, anything can 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.040 happen on any given day to knock things out of whack. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.320 Right, So you have a storm comes about, a thunderstorm, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.000 and you're like, wow, it's a pretty bad storm because 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.040 you are capable. Your area is capable of experiencing a storm. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.040 Your area is capable of experiencing a freak storm, like 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:11.240 a huge thunderstorm. Sure that dumps so much precipitation on 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.560 the ground in such a short amount of time that 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.600 these normal waterways that have been formed to hold the 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.920 normal amount of water become overwhelmed. The water fills up, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.360 spills over the banks, and there's your flood. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.480 Yeah, And that's the key what you just said there 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.280 is these waterways they form over a great, great period 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.800 of time. You don't A river doesn't just spring up 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.640 over the course of a year because there's a lot 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:36.960 of rain. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.839 It takes like of several years. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.360 Yeah, it takes a long long time to sort of 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.320 get a feel, I guess of how much rain there 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.160 is generally. And so this is how big I'm gonna 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.800 be if I'm a river in Georgia, exactly. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.640 This is all I need to be except for the 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.320 freak occurrence in Oh my god, now it's a flood. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.920 But then after the flood, it goes right back to 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:02.320 where it was before. It's not. Rivers don't tend to 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.160 plan their size for the worst case scenario, they're very lazy. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.839 That's a great way to say it, lazy, lazy rivers. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.680 So, like we said, the most common cause, the one 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.720 that people are most familiar with, the most common cause 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:22.439 of flooding is a large storm that allows an anomalous 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.840 accumulation of precipitation. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:30.240 Whether rain could be melting ice from a mountain or snow, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.560 but rain is the one we think about most often. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.040 And like you said, because weather and patterns are pretty 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:43.199 pretty stable over time in a lot of places, depending 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:48.520 on the season, you're going to get anomalous normal precipitation, right, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.520 like monsoons seasonal flooding. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:50.800 Right. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:55.280 So with a monsoon, you have in the wintertime, the 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.960 air over the land is colder than the air over 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.680 the ocean, So the air over the ocean is rising 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.800 in the air over the land is moving out to 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.240 fill it up. So that means the wind is blowing 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.200 out toward the ocean. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:06.640 That's right. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.920 In the summertime, the opposite is true, and so the 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.720 wind is blowing in toward the land and that brings 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.719 with it the monsoon rains. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.040 Yeah, brings with it water. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:23.440 And this annual monsoon flooding we talked about it. We 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.400 didn't call it that because we're not that smart. But 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.520 in the how the Nile River works. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.200 Yeah, exactly, it was and still is a very big 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.800 part of their how they thrived over the years was 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.240 they knew that the Nile would flood each year and 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.520 extend the water out and when it waters receded, it 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.960 left a nice fertile banks on which to live and 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.280 plant foods. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.120 Right, And remember we talked about some of the problems 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.080 from the Aswan Dam and other dams that they built 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.280 along the Nile to control flooding. Basically say we're going 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.680 to release this amount of water, so can go crops 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.440 your and people aren't going to lose their houses to 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:07.640 the now flooding every year. That is actually one of 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.920 the big causes of flooding too. Damn breaks. Yeah, did 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.240 you see that damn video I sent you. 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:14.240 I didn't have a computer. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.080 You didn't look. You didn't see it on your It 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.600 was flash. Oh it's really neat. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:20.520 I'll look at it later. 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.360 I can't remember the name of the dam, but it's 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.160 in Washington State and in October of this year it 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:30.400 had like a controlled demolition and they just blew a 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.560 hole in the bottom and all of a sudden, this 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:38.480 water search comes pouring out and fills this area up, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.199 and then it starts to recede, and you see the 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.520 water behind the dam just start to go down as 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.600 the water in front of the dam starts to go up. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.000 It's really neat looking not. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:48.680 To check that out. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.400 Yeah, Or if you're from Pennsylvania or a historian, then 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.800 of course you know about May thirty first, eighteen eighty nine, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.560 the Johnstown flood. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.719 And it wasn't just Johnstown, by the way. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.640 It's known as the Johnstown flood, I think because that 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.240 was the largest town that it flooded. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.079 Yeah, but it was. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:13.120 I think fourteen miles up stream from Johnstown was the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.079 South Fork Dam, and it hit a couple of towns 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.600 on the way. Finally hit Johnstown six to ten inches 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.360 of rain in twenty four hours, to the tune of 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.080 a sixty foot wall of water going forty miles per hour. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:27.640 Wow, rush through town. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.360 Twenty million tons, not gallons, twenty million tons of water. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.360 And it was the first big disaster relief effort by 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.040 the Red Cross. Oh really, Yeah, I got a number 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.320 of twenty two hundred and nine deaths, seventeen million in damages, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.240 which would be over four hundred million dollars today. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.120 Wow, like close to a half a billion in damages. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:50.720 Wow. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.880 And Springsteen fans might remember that from the song Highway 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.400 Patrolman he sings about the Johnstown flood. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.080 Really yeah, that guy, nice folk hero, isn't it? 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:01.160 He's all over it. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.400 We also remember we talked about in the Human Caused 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.920 Earthquakes episode the Van Damn. Oh yeah, in Italy a 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.960 landslide caused a wave to go over the dam and 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.480 killed two thousand people. It seems to be the number 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.120 when a dam breaks or for each two thousand people die. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.120 You know what I think it's cool is after having 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.240 done like four hundred plus shows, like our world is 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.360 starting to narrow a bit. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.280 Yeah. You know what's really crazy? What is we've already 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.120 had this discussion. Oh and now we've come back to 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.160 having it again. Really that's really narrow. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:34.640 Well. I just think it's cool when you do a 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.480 podcast on flooding and it's also one about the Nile 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.080 in clouds and volcanoes, and I mean, we're still a 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.679 long way from covering and the sun. We're a long 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.680 way from covering everything. But our world view is narrowing 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.440 in a good way. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:49.760 I know, we're like menonites. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.400 Land plays a big part because you know, you can 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.840 have a lot of rain, but depending on what kind 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.560 of land it's falling on, it's going to affect how 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.520 much it floods. If it floods at all, like the 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.000 soil in the middle of a forest, it's going to 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.240 really soak up a lot of water. Hard clay or 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.760 rock or obviously concrete and asphalt aren't going to soak 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.600 up much if anything, So that's gonna lend itself to flooding. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.240 Yeah, and agricultural lands, crop lands that have been tilled, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.760 they're more prone to flooding than woodlands. Do you want 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.280 to know why? 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.520 Yeah, why I was wondering. You got that. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.680 We're about to circle right back again. But two earthworms. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:15:00.200 That's exactly why. That's why woodlands don't flood like farm. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.720 Because there's more little passageways from earthworms. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.840 Yes, and if you till cropland, if you till the land, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.680 it has a deletrious effect on the earthworm. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.000 Popular are saying that word like that. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.200 Yes, the earthworm population in the area, they basically leave, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.440 they take off or else they're cut in a bunch 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:19.960 of pieces. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.400 So it does have a very deleterious effect. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:28.600 Deletrious, delictious. What is it? Species? Now I was wrong 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.480 on that, called out big time. It's species. It's deletrious, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:39.760 it's not delictrious. Say you talk about species species. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.920 Oh, I was wrong on species because it's there are 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.400 two acceptable ways of saying that. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.080 No, there's a right way species. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.160 No. No, if you look it up, it says species or species. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.240 I can't say anything. I can't even keep track of 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.000 the difference between I and I and me. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.640 Concrete an asphalt, which I mentioned, Josh. Here in the 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.080 Western world, there's a lot of that going on. Go 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.240 to a city like La which I lived in, as 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:07.480 you know, they had these concrete flood relief channels built in. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.280 Yeah, you don't even have to go to La you 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.440 can travel there via the movie Greece. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.600 Oh, like the La River basing. Is that what that is? Yeah? 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.320 Okay, yeah, that is in T two. It's in the 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.480 movie Them and These that you know, the where they 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.600 have the car race. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.520 Yeah, they call it the La River, which is kind 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:26.920 of funny. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.960 Yeah, before they paved it with concrete, they used it 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.280 for the canoe scenes in a lot of the Tarzan 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:35.280 movies in the thirties. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.200 Oh yeah, yeah, it's all just smoking mirrors. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:38.760 Yes it is. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.400 Mash was in Malibu, for God's sakes. Yeah. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.840 Levees, Josh, or another reason it can flood, as we 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.400 all saw with the disaster with the Katrina New Orleans, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.360 when the levee breaks, as Robert Plant. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.200 Said, got no place to stay. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.360 No, you don't. And do you remember earlier this year 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.000 when they purpose opened the Morganza spillway. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:07.240 Yeah, basically they sacrificed some local crop land for a 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.560 lot more downriver. Yeah, And that's one of the points, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.000 like the reverse of the thinking usually or well it 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.800 has been historically. Well, that's the point they make about 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.280 all levies though, is generally they're great for that area, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.520 but there's generally there's going to be a problem on 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.360 down the line at some point. Well, the same thing 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.840 with concrete storm basins. It's the same. It's you're you're 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.120 basically just saying, all right, let's get the water through here, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.400 and then when like the twer base runs out at 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.399 your county line, you handle it. Yeah, and here's your 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.400 flood county beneath us. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.399 Well, what I couldn't find about the Morganza spillway was 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:47.280 the the effect, Like I saw like one hundred articles 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.320 on the fact that they're going to open it up, 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:53.679 and then the only article I found post releasing, like 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.760 I think it was first time since nineteen seventy three 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.119 they opened up a lot of these gates, was like 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.000 a week after they said, well, it doesn't look like 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.520 it's going to be as bad as they thought, And 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:02.359 that's all I found. 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.840 If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was a 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.680 huge cluster that was on the Army Corps of Engineers. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:15.560 They created an incorrect estimate and it really screwed up 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.280 a lot more land than they thought. Oh really, if 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.239 it's the same one I'm thinking of, it was this 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.120 year last year. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.160 Yeah, it was spring when the rivers were rising. Yeah, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.359 and they said, we can't dove state New Orleans again, right, 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.800 so we're going to open up a lot of these gates. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.960 Like up in like Missouri or something right now. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.119 No, No, it was in Louisiana. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.240 Okay, Well, there was one in Missouri where they let 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.080 this levee loose and flooded some crop land and it 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.040 ended up like screwing things up all the way down 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.359 or over to like Tennessee. Wow, I can't remember, so 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.480 I guess those are two different stories. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.840 So if you live in Louisiana, I'd like to know 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.679 the effect because I know they said it wasn't as 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.280 bad as they thought, but I couldn't really get a 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:56.520 pinpoint of the damage. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.840 And I want to know what happened in Missouri. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.480 Okay, Okay, let's talk about the coastline. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.680 Yeah, and we didn't mention, by the way, hurricanes too. 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:07.639 Yeah, tsunamis. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:13.760 Yeah, tsunamis. Hurricanes big problems as far as creating flood conditions. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.280 But yeah, the coastline, you're talking about levies and dams. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.919 They fall into man made ways of diverting water to 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.840 other people's problems. Yeah, and we've figured out ways of, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.760 I guess, protecting our beautiful coastlines from mother nature. And 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.920 that's building walls, basically sea walls. It's like, have your 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.119 worst waves, you're not gonna erode this beach. But the 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.040 problem is is the whole process of erosion is part 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.000 of creating and keeping beaches healthy. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:47.120 Yeah and beautiful. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.520 Yes, I remember I used to go to Hunting Island, 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.200 South Carolina when I was a kid, and my mom 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.280 went not too long ago, and she said that they 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.280 have actually, like the whole coastline is different now from 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:00.000 when I was a kid. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:00.879 Really they have. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.679