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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody through one initiative Texans All acts as. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Sean Arris Football on a sideline reporter and

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Speaker 1: joined by of course, has always the voice Labas of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, Mark Vannimir Mark, Good afternoon, Happy Father's Day,

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Speaker 1: and day late, Happy June teeth, all of that. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing, Johnny, I'm doing great. I watched the USO,

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Speaker 1: but it was one of the better ones I've seen

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Speaker 1: in a while. It's great to see some good sports

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Speaker 1: action out of season. You know, with the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: out of the way. Astro is still going, of course,

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Speaker 1: still going. It's still the early going. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: still in the front half of the season with the

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Speaker 1: Houston Astros, and you know, it's been great to see

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Speaker 1: some of their successes. I know people freak out about

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Speaker 1: the losses early early Tombstone happened around now, didn't it.

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, it was thirty one and fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so I think it was a little bit later. I

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Speaker 1: could have been thirty one fifteen, It could have been

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Speaker 1: the opposite out. I think it was the other way around. Yeah, Tombstone.

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Speaker 1: I used to know all those numbers. Yeah, for those Houstonians.

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Speaker 1: I think this would be a good at some point

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Speaker 1: to kind of explain when someone says, oh, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was Clutch City, that was that was Choke City, that

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Speaker 1: was this if you're new to Houston, which are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that are new to Houston and they have,

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Speaker 1: you know, become Astro's Rockets Texans fans, and they're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean tombstone? What does that? What does

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Speaker 1: that relate to? When you say hassleback in a diaper,

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Speaker 1: what does that relate to? These games or situations that

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Speaker 1: have names, you know, love you Blue? Okay, well, you

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Speaker 1: can't explain that one Buffalo Yoho Buffalo. Yeah, um, twenty

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Speaker 1: four to nothing, which apparently I thought meant one thing.

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Speaker 1: The oh no, you were right. It sounds like it

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Speaker 1: meant something. Unfortunately we had two twenty four to not

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Speaker 1: things in the history of this franchise. Yeah one, I

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Speaker 1: felt like stung a lot. I still I still feel

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Speaker 1: like twenty four to nothing in Kansas City was not

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Speaker 1: not the not the low point, but it was it

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Speaker 1: was organization shaking. Oh absolutely, and and what what happened

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Speaker 1: from it? And I remember going off the field that

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Speaker 1: how many wins do you have since then? Eight? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was franchise shaking. Yeah. And I remember walking off

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Speaker 1: the field that day and I don't I remember going

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Speaker 1: I remember at halftime in that game seeing DeAndre go

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Speaker 1: into the X ray room and I just remember thinking,

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Speaker 1: oh no. And then we went out and the second

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Speaker 1: half is just and then the Chiefs are posting we've

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Speaker 1: run in the fireworks, and I'm like, it was just

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Speaker 1: such a gup punch. I just remember walking off the

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Speaker 1: field that day with this awful feeling, not like Okay,

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Speaker 1: COVID's gonna happen or something like that. I just had

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Speaker 1: this kind of weird feeling like things are not going

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Speaker 1: to be the same after this. This one's this one's

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Speaker 1: leaving an indelible mark for whatever reason. As we were

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Speaker 1: flying home, I felt the same thing. I just kind

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Speaker 1: of felt like thing will change. I don't know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how, but things are going to change

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Speaker 1: in a in a pretty significant manner, for better or worse,

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Speaker 1: but things are going to change. I just felt like

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Speaker 1: it's weird feeling gone off the field that day, and

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Speaker 1: they did change, did change, And you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: only two and a half years ago that that occurred,

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Speaker 1: and so much has changed a good thing that as

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Speaker 1: we sit here now you've gone through I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say the hardest part of it, but in many

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Speaker 1: ways you have right the real bottom of it, and

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Speaker 1: now you're on the way up. You've hit bottom at

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Speaker 1: some point, you know, whatever you wanted to clear that,

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Speaker 1: whatever date you wanted a sign bottom two. But it's

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Speaker 1: behind us now and you're on the way back up,

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Speaker 1: which is great because now here we go up and

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Speaker 1: that's what you want to see. And how high it

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Speaker 1: goes we wanted to go all the way. How long

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Speaker 1: that takes, we don't know. We're here for the ride.

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna be fun. I think that would be

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Speaker 1: a fun show at some point for those people that

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Speaker 1: when they hear kiss a Death like kiss it DEVI

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Speaker 1: I think you know all, Mike Scott, you know when

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Speaker 1: you when you got here in two thousand, when did

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Speaker 1: you exactly get here two two thousand and two, like

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Speaker 1: That's so I moved here. So how long did it

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Speaker 1: take to kind of get indoctrinated into all those different things.

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Speaker 1: I did a deep dive instantly. I knew you did

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Speaker 1: their history. But Houston sports history, you know the big

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Speaker 1: things you know about. You know about the Rockets ninety four,

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Speaker 1: of these things. And obviously you know about five Slam,

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Speaker 1: didn't know. What I didn't know was Guy v Lewis

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Speaker 1: and that was largely off the radar of many East

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Speaker 1: now he's in the Hall of Fame, and it took

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Speaker 1: long enough, but he should have been in a long

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Speaker 1: like that. I just studied it hard because I was

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Speaker 1: doing a talk show from nine to eleven right after

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Speaker 1: talked to a lot of Texans and what's this gonna

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Speaker 1: be like? And what's that gonna be like? But I always,

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Speaker 1: you know, gave credit to the fans and said, you guys,

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Speaker 1: tell me how important is this? How important is that?

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Speaker 1: As far as the Houston sports history side of it goes,

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Speaker 1: and being at Kilt Sports Radio six ten, I say

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Speaker 1: Kilt because that's how the station was known when six

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Speaker 1: Learning about it from that side really helped me out

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Speaker 1: as well. I remember being mad going back to your

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Speaker 1: guy V lewis there's a truer pursuit question. Yeah, so's

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Speaker 1: trivial pursue, which I'm sure is no surprise. But there

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Speaker 1: was a question which it was wrong. It literally was wrong.

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Speaker 1: It it said what two teams? Was it two teams?

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Speaker 1: actually not wrong because it Houston didn't go to two,

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Speaker 1: Houston actually did go to two in a row, they

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Speaker 1: always that kind of kind of no respect thought in

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Speaker 1: But I think it's you know, as you and you

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Speaker 1: never know when you when you move here, especially we

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Speaker 1: think about why you move here. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: long those people stay and here in Houston, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think about where my daughter went to school. I

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Speaker 1: mean she was having to come up with a new

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Speaker 1: good ones too. There's something we don't like to talk

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Speaker 1: give you a history of Houston. All right, Mark, One

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Speaker 1: of my favorite things to do is either or. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love I love either or. And so I've kind

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Speaker 1: of you mentioned something earlier that you don't even remember

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Speaker 1: a few that are kind of off the beaten path

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Speaker 1: US Open or not. Yes, and I did because I

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Speaker 1: it's it's fun. You have to kind of familiarize yourself

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Speaker 1: a look they liked. And the fields wide spreading everybody out. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: guys are moving all over the place. Sometimes it's hard

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Speaker 1: it's on and there's a play about the start. Trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out which one's offensive. Defense for a second

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Speaker 1: off the lot of scrimmage, you see guys moving, the

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Speaker 1: guys moving towards a lot of scrimmage. Everybody's moving like wait, pause,

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Speaker 1: which one's offense and so trying to figure all that out.

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Speaker 1: But I watched the CFL game like, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love watching It's just it's exciting. In the thing

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Speaker 1: I wonder about USFL versus you know versus CFL. There're

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Speaker 1: probably fewer names you know over in the CFL, but

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Speaker 1: the game's unique and different enough that, Okay, i'll watch it.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch and then of course that game got competitive

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Speaker 1: well when they did it last, like in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. So yeah, I think that's not a bad idea, Johnny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll run up all for you. Yeah, absolutely, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run by some either or for you next

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Speaker 1: right here on Texans All Access. Welcome back this money

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Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. John Harris here, Mark Vannimer there, Mark,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some either or in just a second.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you this question, knowing how much

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Speaker 1: you and I both love sports and love sports of

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Speaker 1: all kinds. Okay, I don't even know if this is

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Speaker 1: considered a sport. What is the wildest, most insane sport

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Speaker 1: you have ever seen? Whether it's a professional sport or not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care. Just the wildest thing you

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Speaker 1: have ever seen that considers itself a sport. You know

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Speaker 1: that what was the energy drink sponsor dropped from outer space.

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Speaker 1: That's not really a sport, that's a stunt. There was

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Speaker 1: more evil knevilish. Yeah, you know you see things like that. Yea,

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Speaker 1: even for fans if you will. Whoever does the running

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Speaker 1: of the Bulls of Pamplona that they're absolutely nuts, insanity

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Speaker 1: And that's not even professional athletes, right, that's just people

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Speaker 1: who feel like they want to run in front of

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Speaker 1: some bulls and take their shot at greatness. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: can't really think of stuff off hand. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: so the roller ball, oh that was fictional. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this one because I know on

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Speaker 1: social media I've seen this so much. Have you seen

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Speaker 1: these slapping contests? Sports Radio six ten did one of

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Speaker 1: these back in the day before your time. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: actually did one over at my radio station as a

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Speaker 1: result of that. Oh, it's like harried out the tradition. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was Chance and his brother Taylor slap at each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it was insane. It was like they were really

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Speaker 1: going at it. And if you slap somebody and get

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Speaker 1: him in the in the jaw bone, you know, you

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Speaker 1: get them a little too high cheek jawbone area, that's

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Speaker 1: as good as a punch. Yeah. So I have seen

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Speaker 1: some lately where these dudes look like arm wrestlers and

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Speaker 1: they and they're slapping each other, and it's like that,

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Speaker 1: it's what's the whole idea to survive or what? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so whoever taps out taps out first. I think,

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Speaker 1: all right, so now it's a fight. Okay, But wait,

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Speaker 1: I saw this on social media today and it's along

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Speaker 1: the lines of that slap fest slap contest, except these

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Speaker 1: guys are wearing like metal night hats and they have

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Speaker 1: a pan. They have a cast iron pan with like

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Speaker 1: an eleven inch handle, it looks like, and they are

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Speaker 1: just taking turns whacking each on the side of the head,

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Speaker 1: and the losers, the first one that falls off the

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Speaker 1: platform whatever they're sitting on, you're gonna get a concussion.

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Speaker 1: It's the stupidest thing I've ever It is there. It's

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Speaker 1: called pan slapping, and they're literally taking his cast iron

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Speaker 1: pan up the side of each other's heads. And finally,

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Speaker 1: this guy Finally it's on maybe like the third or

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Speaker 1: fourth one. This guy falls off. He just kind of

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Speaker 1: you can just tell he's passed out, and the other

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Speaker 1: guy just takes the pan. He's like holding it over

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Speaker 1: his head like, yeah, I got him. Society I've ever seen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean in sanity? All right? What's not in sanity?

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Speaker 1: Or some either or so, Mark, I'm gonna start with

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Speaker 1: either or for you more impactful. Now, the first couple

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Speaker 1: of these are with guys that are well, three of

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Speaker 1: the guys are playing for different teams. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with the one where one guy is playing for

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Speaker 1: the same team another guy is new more impactful in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Matt Ryan or Ryan Tannehill. Oh look,

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan's gonna play well. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he will be any more impactful than Carson Wentz

493
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Speaker 1: was at his best last year. I want to be

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Speaker 1: clear about that, at his best at his worst. You'd

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Speaker 1: hope Ryan's better. But would anybody be stunned if the

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Speaker 1: Colts go nine and eight? No, because Ryan can't really

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Speaker 1: get you over the hump the way you'd want him to,

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Speaker 1: and Taylor might miss a game or two or three

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Speaker 1: because of this, that or the other thing. And they

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Speaker 1: just play solid but not quite well enough. They're playing

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Speaker 1: a tough schedule too well. They play the NFC East

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Speaker 1: like the Texans do, but they play the AFC West

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Speaker 1: like the Texans do. And the Colts are going to

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Speaker 1: command and demand a lot of attention from their opponents.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get everybody's best game, so to speak. So

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking aloud here I would say that, But who's

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Speaker 1: gonna make a bigger impact? Tannehill needs to, right, but Willie,

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Speaker 1: I'll say Ryan. I'll say Ryan because I just Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan or Ryan Tannehill. I said Ryan. I will surely

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Speaker 1: be right, all right now, Matt Ryan because Ryan Tannet.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Ryan Tannehill. What does the Malik

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Speaker 1: Willis acquisition due to him? Does it motivate him and

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Speaker 1: he takes his game to an even higher level, a

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Speaker 1: better level? Does he maintain his overall pretty decent level

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Speaker 1: of play since he's been there except for a few

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Speaker 1: games here and there. Does it backslide a little bit?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna gamble that it's not going to go as

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Speaker 1: well for him and them. Now, if Derrick Henry stays

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Speaker 1: healthy the whole way through. That's obviously going to help them,

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Speaker 1: but that has to happen. Willis is going to flash

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. There's gonna be some I don't want

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Speaker 1: to call it a controversy, but there'll be whispers and

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Speaker 1: questions from the media talk like that. I think Vrabel

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Speaker 1: will handle that well. But I just look at the

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan sit with the Colts a lot more peacefully

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Speaker 1: for them then I think the situation that quarterback is

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Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans right now. Okay, I'm gonna change

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Speaker 1: this next one up because I actually had been thinking

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Speaker 1: about this the other day because I was gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you more impactful two receivers that got traded this offseason,

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Speaker 1: but then I thought about where they went, so more

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Speaker 1: impactful the Dolphins wide receiver trio of Jalen Waddle, Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill and tight end Mike Kisiki, okay, or the Raiders

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Speaker 1: trio Devote Adams Hunter, Renfrew, who decided to contract, and

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Speaker 1: Darren Waller, and we gotta face both of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the road. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. I know that Waddle's really good and I

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Speaker 1: think Hill. I heard Hill talking about, Look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: just a deep ball guy. I can run the intermediate routs,

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Speaker 1: the short routes. You know, I'm a route runner and

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Speaker 1: I can do this. And I love how what he

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Speaker 1: said regarding tah An accuracy became a whole toa Mahomes

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Speaker 1: talking point exactly Like I turn on serious x M

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Speaker 1: NFL radio and they'll put the talking point on the

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Speaker 1: screen on your interface versus Mahome. Yeah. I saw that

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Speaker 1: a lot, forget it over a five day period, and

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Speaker 1: I thought people are just milking this to death, and

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Speaker 1: it just looks ridiculous to see it on a screen

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Speaker 1: like really two of versus Mahomes. But Tyreek Hill brought

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Speaker 1: it up. So I'm gonna say this, the Raiders renfro

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Speaker 1: has already proven to be very effective. Derek Carr now

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Speaker 1: has Davante Adams to work with, and they clearly already

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Speaker 1: have chemistry off the field and in college. And look,

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Speaker 1: the tight end is just so good with the Raiders

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Speaker 1: as well. I think he's better than Kasicky. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say that the Raiders trio will be more impactful.

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Speaker 1: They'll make more of a difference for that franchise than

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Speaker 1: whatever happens Dwan in Miami. And to your point, one

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Speaker 1: has too a quarterbacky right now, and I think the

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Speaker 1: jury is still out. One has Derek Carr. And for

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Speaker 1: all the people that are like, oh, Derek Car, like,

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Speaker 1: Derek Car has been pretty un good in his career.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a leading passer in Raider history and

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Speaker 1: he was going into last year, maybe going into the

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Speaker 1: year before. Yeah, I don't know what that says about

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Speaker 1: the Raiders quarterbacking history. But Mark Wilson, MVP, Rich gannon

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Speaker 1: but nobody but those guys didn't throw for a lot

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Speaker 1: of yards. No, but they fourteen games too, Yeah, fourteen

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Speaker 1: games then sixteen But rules yardage differential. Go look at

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman's yardage. It's not impressive. It's not impressive from

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl years. It just isn't. It doesn't hold

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Speaker 1: up over time. But that's okay because it was a

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Speaker 1: different era. I'm sensing, as Steph Curry Larry Bird debate again,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Suttarth, if Larry Bird had played in this era

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Speaker 1: where three point shots were much more regular and accepted,

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Speaker 1: what would Larry Bird have done? That? Said Steph Curry's

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Speaker 1: best shooter of all time. Okay, this one's pretty more impactful.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry or Jonathan Taylor. Guys, we see twice a

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Speaker 1: year if healthy. If healthy, we did not see Henry

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Speaker 1: at all last year. Thank god, we did see Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor twice a year. Henry's more impactful. Come on, Henry

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Speaker 1: is a one man wrecking crew on offense. He will

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Speaker 1: wreck your defense, he will wreck your soul. And Taylor

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Speaker 1: as great as he is. It's stinks that you have

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Speaker 1: two of the best running backs in the league right

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Speaker 1: in your division. But we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting how you don't really fear any of the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in your division the way you fear and I

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Speaker 1: hate to use that word, but fear, concern, respect, whatever,

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Speaker 1: that kind of fear, like biblical fear. You don't fear

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks the way you do the running backs. You

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Speaker 1: have two elite running backs. You don't have any elite

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in your division. That's interesting that way, Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I mean depending on how depending on how you look

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Speaker 1: at it. I think, gosh, I'm want to say this,

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Speaker 1: so it's probably come back to bite me in the backside.

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Speaker 1: But other than Brandon Cooks. I don't know that you

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Speaker 1: have a Mark Key wide receiver in the division either. Well,

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Speaker 1: who declared Robert Woods? That there was some Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it was CBS NFL and CBS or CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: put top receivers in the division, right, they put out

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Speaker 1: who's the top receiver in THENFC South and they had

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Speaker 1: Pittman Woods. I can't remember who they put for Jacksonville. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they put Mark I think it put Marvin Jones, and

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Speaker 1: then they put Cooks. Jones is really good. Yeah, Cooks

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Speaker 1: is the best receiver of that Budge yes, by far, right,

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Speaker 1: by far. But there are a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: just automatically went straight through Robert Woods. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the fact that Robert Woods has been effective,

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Speaker 1: and he's been very good. He's been very good as

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Speaker 1: a as a number two wherever he's been, Hey, he's

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Speaker 1: never been a number one. And b he's coming off

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Speaker 1: an injury and ACL from last year. And I think

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Speaker 1: he's pushing thirty if I if I recall, but I

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Speaker 1: don't trust me on that math. But either way, those

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Speaker 1: are all three things that I wouldn't say worked for

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Speaker 1: a guy being in a one Way, and he's playing

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Speaker 1: for a new team and for a quarterback that's not

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. They're not going to give the Texans any respect,

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Speaker 1: no even on that. So the point being you're facing

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks they are like you face the wide receivers that

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Speaker 1: are kind of the same way. You could have something

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Speaker 1: that could break out, like could I see Alec Pierced

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Speaker 1: be a guy that's dangerous down the field. And look,

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Speaker 1: I think Pittman's good. I think Pittman's very, very good.

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Speaker 1: But do you fear him? Yeah, you have to contain him.

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Speaker 1: He's part of the mix there. Okay, you didn't fear

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle either, but he ended up making plays for them.

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Speaker 1: Although we would always discuss Jack Doyle when a colts

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Speaker 1: matchup was coming Upstone always it's like Jannick and Gockway

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Speaker 1: and we gotta face y. Okay, either or And I

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Speaker 1: think I think you've called both of these. I think

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Speaker 1: College World Series, yes, or nc Double A Basketball Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's not even a contest. Really, it's

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Speaker 1: the NCAA Basketball Tournament. Really. Yeah. And I called the

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Speaker 1: College World Series at Rosenblatt Stadium when they still had

637
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Rosenblatt Stadium and we were there in two thousand and one.

638
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Hurricanes won it swept their way through. The format was different.

639
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: He had one championship game then on that Saturday they

640
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Speaker 1: went four and oh we were there for ten days.

641
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: It was really weird, like living there for ten days.

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00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: Why was Kevin Costner there? Did he have a kid

643
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: or a step kid playing in it or I don't know.

644
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: Costner was there at our hotel. I just remember that

645
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: because I'm watching Yellowstone recently and I thought I've seen

646
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: him up close, you know, just having breakfast stuff like that.

647
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: I don't know why that came into my brain right there.

648
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: But we ate a lot of steak. I ate so

649
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: much steak on that trip, went running every day. The

650
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: weather was beautiful, The scene is great. Nebraska was in

651
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Speaker 1: that CWUS and what was cool. That was the first

652
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: time they were ever in it, right, and it's in Omaha.

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00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: The fans were amazing, the tailgating. Every time Nebraska would

654
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: have like a sacrifice fly, it sounded like touchdown in Lincoln. Yeah,

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00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: it was really cool and it's a great event. I'm

656
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Speaker 1: not taking anything away from it, but there's nothing like

657
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament except for every fell Sunday. Yeah, that's

658
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: how I feel, very true. But the NCAA Tournament is

659
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: far superior to the College World Series. College World Series

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00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: is fun, though, but it's college baseball. Plink aluminum bat.

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00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: I like that though. No, I've always liked the aluminum bat.

662
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: I liked the aluminum bat sound. I've always liked talked

663
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: to any and after it does college baseball. They'll tell

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00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: you every count goes to three and two. This is

665
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: what it feels like. Every count goes to three and two.

666
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Every game is five hours, if that if this okay,

667
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: Now it's coming to the forefront. What really is the situation,

668
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: and that is the length of the game. Now that's

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Speaker 1: true the na Double A Basketball tournament. Once you figure

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00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: out the whole media time out at four, eight, twelve, sixteen.

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00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Once you figure or in reverse I guess, as the

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00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: clock is counted down. Once you figure that out, and

673
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: the game, the game can fly. It can it can

674
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: absolutely fly. And you can watch a couple of games

675
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: outside of Omaha can get a little steaming because I've

676
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: thought about that watching but just watching the College World Series,

677
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: and I watched a lot of the Supers and the

678
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: regionals and such, and I don't know. There's something about

679
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: the College World Series that always I've always gravitated towards

680
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: and I mean there's part of me, I mean, a

681
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: big part of me I want. I'm gonna be honest

682
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: right now, but the College World Series is amazing. I'm

683
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna be honest about this. I had a great time

684
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: in Omaha and they won the national championship, and I

685
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: got to call it, Yeah, I've had more funding regionals.

686
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: I've had more funding regionals with you Mass, Central Michigan.

687
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: Central Michigan won a Mid American Conference championship with a

688
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Grand Slam. I got to call that. U Mass beat

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00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: South Florida and Central Florida to get to the final

690
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: against Florida in Gainesville. When I was there and we

691
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: beat them, it was seven hours on the air. They

692
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: had to go back to back because they were playing

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Speaker 1: through the losers bracketball games. Oh my gosh, but it

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00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: was thrilling. They won the last one in dramatic fashion.

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00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember all the particulars, but it was and

696
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: we were so burnt out. We went to an eye

697
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: hoop after that or something, you know. The only thing

698
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: we could find open, and then the next day we're

699
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: up again. I don't think the guys have time to

700
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: wash the uniforms. You know, there they were the next

701
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: day in the final they got smoked by Florida and

702
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: couldn't get to the CWS. So the super whatever they

703
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: had at the time, because the regionals have changed over time.

704
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: But I I loved that more than I actually loved

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00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: to be at the College World Series. I love that

706
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: I've been there and got to do it. But those

707
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: things were fun, especially Rosenblood. Okay, last one. You can

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Speaker 1: win a golf major, either the US Open or the PGA.

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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't give me the Brents, so I'm keeping

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00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: you keep. It's definitely the US Open. Come on, the

711
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: US Open. To a lot of people like Phil Nicholson's

712
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: never won it. That's the white whale for him. You know,

713
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: he blew it at Wingfoot and he want Yeah, he's

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00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: blown a couple. He wants that one so badly. I

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00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: thought this weekend was tremendous. That's one of the best

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00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: ones I've seen. Scheffler. Look, Scheffler was right in it.

717
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: Couldn't make the birdie putt on eighteen. I just think

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00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: the great golfers are gonna finish second or third or

719
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: whatever something. You look at all of Jack Nicholas's second

720
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: place finishes, it's almost more impressive. He is nineteen. I

721
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: believe second place finishes in majors. I think it's almost

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00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: better for Scheffler that he didn't go speef and go

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00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: masters US Open, only because I don't know, you know,

724
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: you can't know two people are alike. Whatever, But it

725
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: makes me sad. What's happened to Speece? You know, come on,

726
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: let's get there again, to the Winter Circle, or at

727
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: least near it. I don't see enough of that. But

728
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: now I find myself pulling for Scheffler. At first, I

729
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: was like, who is this guy? Now I'm like, go Scheffler,

730
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: or go American somebody. Fitzpatrick, though, having won the US

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Speaker 1: Amateur at that course in twenty thirteenth, great story. I

732
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: thought it was a great tournament this weekend. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: be the US Open will zel Taurus second place tie

734
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Speaker 1: in a row. Oh that Bertie pod Come on, I

735
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: know it's not an easy one. But I was talking.

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00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad yesterday and I had

737
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: the sound down and we were actually both. We're both

738
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: watching it, which is not a good thing because we're

739
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: not actually really talking to each other. We're kind of

740
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: walking at each other. And the shot that Zala Torus

741
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: hit early in the round, I want to say it

742
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: was number seven or number eight, and that thing comes

743
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: within inches of going in and both of us just

744
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: we just gotta roared at that point, or like, Okay,

745
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna win it today, he's gonna win it, and

746
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: then he too much ground to cover. Look at the

747
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: shot that Fitzpatrick hit out of the bunker. Yeah, that's

748
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: one of the greatest shots you'll ever see in a major.

749
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, that was amazing. I couldn't believe it.

750
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I thought, oh good, he's gonna blow it now because

751
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: I was rooting for him to blow I gotta say, PGA,

752
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: moving up. Great move, brilliant move. Move, absolutely brilliant move.

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Speaker 1: All right, we get back, We'll go round the NFL

754
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Speaker 1: right here on Texans All Access. Welcome Mack's final segments

755
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Monday edition of Texans All Access from the Monday Texans

756
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am John Harris's time to go around

757
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: the NFL and have a reality check, if you will,

758
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: because the place we are going is Pittsburg. Now I

759
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: saw this and I did a double take, and I

760
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: just like, you know that dog, you know a dog.

761
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: Here's something weird is that that head turn? Like huh?

762
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I kind of had this when Pittsburgh wide receiver Chase

763
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Claypool said, and I quote he was on the I

764
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: Am Athlete podcast, which has been very popular. Number of

765
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: different guys in there. Channing Crowder he's the one I remember,

766
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: But then you have Lashawn McCoy's been on there at

767
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson, Randon Marshall center said Claypool. I'm gonna say

768
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: my second year I was a better player than in

769
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: my first year. The players just didn't work out. Some

770
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: of the players just didn't go my way I need.

771
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: I didn't make some plays I need to make. But

772
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: as a football player, understanding the game, knowing what to do,

773
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: knowing where to be, I was better. So I'm gonna

774
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: be better this year, Okay, I'll give you that. And

775
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: just like you said, understanding, I'm not normal. I feel

776
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: that way when I'm on the field. I know for

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Speaker 1: a fact I'm not like the rest of the guy's

778
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. I know I'm a top three wide receiver. Okay,

779
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: now I know you're in your car going Wait a second,

780
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, number three wide receiver in the league. I

781
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: want you to quick think of receivers right now that

782
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: you know are without a doubt more valuable and better

783
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: overall than Chase Claypool. I'll start justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill,

784
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Cede Lamb. Okay, that's four already, Deebo, Samuel Cooper,

785
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Cup DK Metcalf, I've gotten all there. I'll take my

786
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: man Brandon Cooks. I'll take Michael Pittman Junior. Who else

787
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: am I missing? Terry McLarin from Washington, Davante Smith, A. J. Brown,

788
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. Stop me when you go, oh wait, no, no no, no,

789
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: that guy's that better than Claypool. Look, Claypool is physically gifted.

790
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: I've gone through this before, and I had this conversation.

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00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: It's actually a couple of years ago. I was on

792
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: with the Donah Spot and radio hostaid, wow, we know

793
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: that guy's we know that guy's great. I'm like, no, no, no,

794
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: you know that guy's talented, and you know that guy's

795
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: got elite physical traits. But that doesn't mean he's an

796
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: elite player. And I think this is where Chase Claypool

797
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: fantastically built a specimen if there ever was one by

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Speaker 1: the top three wide receiver, Nah bro, I would actually

799
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: take Deante Johnson over you right now. And I might

800
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: be a mouthful, but right now, can Chase Claypool turn

801
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: into a poor man's DK Metcalf? Yeah, but if I

802
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: gotta say poor man's, then that means you're not been

803
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: in that guy, So I would. I don't know where

804
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool is gonna fall and fantasy rankings and all

805
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you know that's the most

806
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: important thing. He would not be in my top fifteen.

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00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: I can tell you that now. That's there's no shame

808
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: in that. You could be a top twenty, top twenty

809
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: five receiver and make cash. That's cool. You can do that.

810
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: Let's say your top three wide receiver. I applaud, I

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00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: applaud the hood spot. It's just not true. It just

812
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: it just isn't. But he's going into a contract year,

813
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: needs to have big year, and so he's setting it up.

814
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: He's setting up and he's playing the mind games. Hey Steelers,

815
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: you just gave me a Fitzpatrick a lout of money.

816
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: What about me? We'll see put together a top three

817
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver year and you get paid. Chase, Claypool and

818
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Speaker 1: Nat will do it for the show. Big thanks to Mark,

819
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Speaker 1: to all of you for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.

820
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Speaker 1: Let's always go Texans.