WEBVTT - All Access: Horsted's path to the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom Thare. I'm Jeff Joniac, the rookie Tight and

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<v Speaker 1>Jasper Horse that will be kind enough to join us

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in the program. And I like the feistiness

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<v Speaker 1>of this crowd. It's small but mighty right first time

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<v Speaker 1>you ever interviewed at Jasper, I have to think so,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'll had a chance say hi to him

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<v Speaker 1>out in the hall and I said, when you come

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<v Speaker 1>in here, I want you to give a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>long Princeton answers. Well, we might get that he's well

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<v Speaker 1>spoken man, that's for sure. And getting an opportunity of

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime as a rookie and being a prominent fixture

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<v Speaker 1>right now in this final month of the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard not to look at the whole picture and

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<v Speaker 1>maintain your enthusiasm because you do, no matter what the

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<v Speaker 1>cliches say, have to take it one day at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not sexy. It doesn't mean a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does for this twenty nineteen Chicago Bears team

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<v Speaker 1>that was very happy that the Vikings lost last night.

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<v Speaker 1>That certainly helps a little bit, you know, But a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Jasper, his enthusiasm is important because he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>gain momentum throughout the season. He came here unexpectedly making

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears and then got transferred from the practice squad

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<v Speaker 1>to the active roster and then was able to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and make a touchdown catch on a difficult, difficult

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<v Speaker 1>catch a play design where he was the third receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when you get a chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>a Keem Hicks back in the mix out there on

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field, and you kind of see a little,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a lighten the distance because when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets inserted into the active lineup and stuff. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are elements right now that are really exciting to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears going through these final four games. And you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about two teams with an arrow pointed up and a

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<v Speaker 1>arrow pointed down at both having the same record at

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<v Speaker 1>six and six. There's a lot of positive things to

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<v Speaker 1>build on with the Bears right now, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to capitalize the momentum because I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to take that element and keep building with it and

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<v Speaker 1>from it. And you have to. And you know, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Nagie today said he definitely learned a lot about what

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<v Speaker 1>he has during the four game losing streak because it

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<v Speaker 1>could have done in any number of ways. He said

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't and he was right in the end. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things he says turn out to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>It just takes some time to get there sometimes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a message that locker room takes to

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<v Speaker 1>heart a little bit. Kilil Mac was very very positive today,

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about what this is. He goes, it's almost like,

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense, you're trying to do the impossible and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the competitive juices flow. And as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you got one of the guys that lead the way

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you're in a good place in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>mentally going into that game against the Cowboys. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's always great to have a depositive attitude

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<v Speaker 1>to Klil Mac. But I think it's even a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>example when those guys go into the meeting rooms and

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<v Speaker 1>they see what he does on tape. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>only Klil Mack the pass rusher, it's Khalil Mack the

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<v Speaker 1>football player. And when you look at some of the

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<v Speaker 1>dirty work that he's willing to do, it sets an

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<v Speaker 1>example for some of these other guys that need that

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<v Speaker 1>example set before him to see how hard you have

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<v Speaker 1>to work in order to ultimately achieved the success that

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil has. And he's going to going down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think another important element of success in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room is the building blocks that Mitch has

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<v Speaker 1>been displaying in the last three or four weeks. He's

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<v Speaker 1>shown the improvement that we've all wanted to see. He's

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<v Speaker 1>getting other plays actively involved in the mix. While he's

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<v Speaker 1>losing players and Trey Burton, Adam Sheheen, he's adding players

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<v Speaker 1>like Anthony Miller, Javon Wimms, and Jessper Horstad who will

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<v Speaker 1>hear from so I think all those elements and how

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<v Speaker 1>they fit in with each other to keep that atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>in the positive direction. Matt Naggie has always seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they went through that little bit of a slide.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bears All Access. It's brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>got a four o'clock pregame and a seven twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>kickoff between the Bears and Cowboys on Thursday night. So

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<v Speaker 1>that Cowboys team has been going in the opposite direction,

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<v Speaker 1>not just three of the last four, but six of

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<v Speaker 1>the last nine games that they've lost. Despite that fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they have the number one yardage offense in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care as much about that. I care about points,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can score points when they're humming. They're getting

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty points a game. They've got the number one

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<v Speaker 1>third down offense in football, they've got the number three

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<v Speaker 1>third down defense in football, and they've got weapons on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball that you got to account for.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, the mystery isn't working right. They've struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you get the almost on que response from

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room that we're angry, and the whole week talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Michael Bennett, one of their new additions, he's speaking up.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got players saying, you know enough of the talk

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that is predictable for a team that frankly

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<v Speaker 1>is still in first place in the NFC East. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't need to hear anything out

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<v Speaker 1>of Michael Bennett. I'm not going to have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's been around the team for two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>week and start giving speeches of inspiration to guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Witton who have been there for fifteen or seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 1>The most destructive message that's filtering in the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dallas Cowboys is coming from Jerry Jones, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you are the general manager, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>tone setter for that team. You're the guy that's out

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<v Speaker 1>in front of all these radio and TV interviews, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not giving your coach a vote of confidence. That's

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<v Speaker 1>super destructive to the locker room because who is evaluating

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<v Speaker 1>me to tell me that I'm going to have my

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<v Speaker 1>job here next year? If you're a position coach and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be gone with the head coach, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not guarantee that he's going to be gone. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>setting that message, they're setting that tone that the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of him being gone now it really changes. It backfires

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense, Yeah, backfires because, Okay, if this head

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<v Speaker 1>coach is going to be gone, I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure by the time the season's over, I'm healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to compete in front of my new coach. You know, now,

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<v Speaker 1>do you sit out there and you give you put

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<v Speaker 1>your say, you put yourself in the same position during

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the game that you need to. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're in first place, I know, But you're a You're

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<v Speaker 1>in a crappy division right now. You know. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at Washington, you look at Philly getting beat by the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Dolphins last week. So yeah, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the big picture, if they win the division

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<v Speaker 1>with an eight and eight record, it doesn't matter, You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the playoffs. But when I'm saying here, though

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't, it doesn't feel like that. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, there there are things and elements about that

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<v Speaker 1>game that the Bears better be ready for. One, they

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<v Speaker 1>do have a very aggressive front seven and Jalen Smith

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<v Speaker 1>is playing some really good football middle linebacker. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>have one of the most aggressive front fronts in all

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<v Speaker 1>of defense. They can confuse you. They can overwhelm you

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<v Speaker 1>with speed. They can put more bodies in one area

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<v Speaker 1>that you have the capabilities of blocking. But on the

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<v Speaker 1>same point, sometimes they can use that to their detriment.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be pass rushers and not run stoppers. They

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<v Speaker 1>can run by the running back while he has the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in his hands and he's up to the second

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<v Speaker 1>the last four quarterbacks they played Daniel Jones, Jeff Driscoll,

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<v Speaker 1>who the who. The Bears have played both of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and then last week Josh Allen all ran for some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good yards up against that rush. So Mitch could

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<v Speaker 1>have opportunities to do that, and he's got to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of them. I agree. You know, you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>tape and a lot of these guys they pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>with their head down and if they're you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one body out of position, they're not falling through with

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<v Speaker 1>their assignments. They have man to man coverage and all

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive backs are following wide receivers down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a great opportunity for Mitchell. Trip Whisky,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably getting health of her himself, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably feeling another bright spot with him along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your phone fifty push ups? That's a findable offense,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think, folks, Because if it were me, I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what he'd be calling me out. Was that

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<v Speaker 1>your phone? Well, it's a message and that said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is coach Naggy just listening to you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff is doing a great jobs. That's down there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joni ac End. This is Bears All Access coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie tight End jessper Horsted will join the program. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Street and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joni k Tomp There hear it before live studio

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<v Speaker 1>audience at PNC Studios at Hollis Hall from Loop Capitol,

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<v Speaker 1>A fiery bunch and ready to go. Is we welcome

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<v Speaker 1>in Rookie ten End Jesper Horse did the rookie had

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<v Speaker 1>a Inston and now a converted receiver playing tight end

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<v Speaker 1>with a catch that is still being talked about. Congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on your success and the first couple of games active

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster and making this roster. But with that catch,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been I've seen pictures all over the internet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be I don't know if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him, but it's it's heavy stuff for a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>to have that kind of play in just your second

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<v Speaker 1>or third NFL game. Yeah, thank you very much, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for having me. Guys. It is it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of surreal, and the pictures are everywhere, and my friends

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<v Speaker 1>are sending me them and parents are tagging him and

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and whatnot. But uh, you know, at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of stuff that I've been doing my career,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's just something I hope that I

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<v Speaker 1>can do. If the ball is as close and as

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<v Speaker 1>good of a pass as that one was right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of my face, I should hope I'd be able

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<v Speaker 1>to come down with that. The interesting thing is one

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<v Speaker 1>rookie beat another Will Harris from Boston College. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here's just you know, a little little tight end from

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<v Speaker 1>Princeton making the big play. I'm sure that didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>unnoticed by you as well. No, um, yeah it did not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was a highly drafted player, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to work your way to get onto a

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<v Speaker 1>roster and undrafted and made this football team. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting Roseville, Minnesota. Were you a Vikings fan growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, I knew the answer, well either, you know, so,

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<v Speaker 1>did you gravitate towards the wide receivers of the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, or did you gravitate towards other position players? No,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly the wide receivers. And I was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>before the Randy Moss era, but there was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the clips are always there, and I grew up watching those.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I as I was getting older and really

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<v Speaker 1>coming into like being a receiver, Delon was developing as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was so cool because he was a hometown guy.

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<v Speaker 1>They grew up pretty close to me, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to watch him in that first preseason actually when

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<v Speaker 1>he was fighting for US or spots. So I always

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<v Speaker 1>followed his journey very closely and looked up exact of

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Yeah, za, guys, I mean, did you get

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<v Speaker 1>to know him at all? I never did know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so your touchdown catch, Just to revisit that a second,

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<v Speaker 1>first step off the line scrimmage, did you know you

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<v Speaker 1>won the route because you had perfect position already in

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<v Speaker 1>the safety was kind of taking as he's going, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to respect this guy at all. I'm stepping

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<v Speaker 1>away from him. So from the first step, did you

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<v Speaker 1>know you won the route? I had a good feeling

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I wouldn't say I knew I won the route,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had a head start in the race, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you go back and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it on film, you see that one outside defender to

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<v Speaker 1>your right. He did a really nice job of both

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<v Speaker 1>taking Cordell Patterson out of his route in being able

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<v Speaker 1>to laterally float out there with tere Cohen. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when you get a better chance to look at it

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<v Speaker 1>on tape after the fact, man, you Mitch did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of going one two back to back to you. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not the first read on that play.

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<v Speaker 1>It just really worked out the coverage that I had,

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<v Speaker 1>the good leverage and the open window. Are you aware

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<v Speaker 1>of that safety moving out of the place that where

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<v Speaker 1>your route's going to take you? I was I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment, vaguely aware of it, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part I was focused on the guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>just inside me and beating him to the spot. But

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<v Speaker 1>I later, as I watched the film, I was like, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that really worked out even better than I could have

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<v Speaker 1>asked for. So your route to the tight end position.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that when you were being you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the East West Shrine game, they had

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver. When did you morph into that the

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<v Speaker 1>body of a tight end? When I showed up here,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually came here thinking I was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver. And the first scout I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you know, actually like we're going to try

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<v Speaker 1>you at tight end. And I was like, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>put my hand in the ground before it like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure? Like am I wasting my time here? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you kind of explained that there, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not your classic tight end that you're thinking of, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think more of like Trey Burton. He's about

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<v Speaker 1>your size, and we think that we can put some

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<v Speaker 1>weight on you and you know, teach you how to

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<v Speaker 1>do that stuff and you'd be a good fit. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was very open to it. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a similar story to Zach Miller because he was a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and then they brought him to a workout and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, getting a stance, We're going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>your tight end. He's never been in a stance before.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you did start getting into it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen a three point stance your whole football life. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you just get into it and go, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the way it's supposed to feel, or because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I played football, it seemed like it

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<v Speaker 1>took about three days before you really felt comfortable getting

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<v Speaker 1>in an out of your stance. Yeah, it was not

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<v Speaker 1>something that clicked right away. I definitely took practice and

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<v Speaker 1>some help from the older guys. And even today I

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<v Speaker 1>don't always get in the exact same stance, so they'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to correct me here and there. But I'm way

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable now than I was with it before. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is something you see often and you just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pick up on it. So you were undrafted, so

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<v Speaker 1>you had choices, You had other teams no doubt interested.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you start the question after the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you know initially because obviously you've played one position your

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<v Speaker 1>whole career, but they thought enough of you that you

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<v Speaker 1>have skill set to fit into a different role. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that unusual in terms of the U tight end position,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a move tight end because of your pass

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<v Speaker 1>catching seals, But did you have to catalog it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and think about it. So it wasn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>all went down actually. So I kind of came out

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<v Speaker 1>of college just playing four years of receiver and I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the larger side and I knew that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I still was going for receiver in the NFL. When

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the Shrine game, I was a receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got hurt training for my pro day, and

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt again on my pro day, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>did not get drafted, which you know I was hoping

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<v Speaker 1>for but not expecting, and then I also didn't get signed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got no calls after the draft, no nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my agent, you know, called up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams and said, well, we have this guy at

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<v Speaker 1>your tryout, and some teams said no, and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>said yes. And so we worked out two teams that

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<v Speaker 1>we thought might be a good fit for me, this

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<v Speaker 1>team in the Saints, and this happened to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first weekend, so I was planning to flight in New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans the next weekend, and yeah, I mean I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of showed up and they said that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I've been marketing myself as a receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously that didn't work too well. Let's try this.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is a better fit for me at this level.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I went through that, went through the rookie minicamp,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually I think that they hadn't made up their

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<v Speaker 1>mind on me yet, and so I they're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Like we don't have a spot for you

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So I packed up my lock here and

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<v Speaker 1>flew home. But then when the plane landed and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a call waiting from coaching Aggie and my agent

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<v Speaker 1>saying they changed their mind. They made a spot for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of where the last men in canceled

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<v Speaker 1>that trip to New Orleans and been here since. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes your story even more remarkable. Yeah, a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, when you look at it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a story that we hope we can

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<v Speaker 1>tell ten years from now after a great career. Jesper

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<v Speaker 1>Horsted our guest year on Bears All Access with Tom

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<v Speaker 1>There I'm Jeff Joniak, and we're brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>IGS Energy. So in your conference that you played in

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<v Speaker 1>a college, your junior year fourteen touchdowns, ninety two catches,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundred and twenty six yards, seventy two catches, your

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<v Speaker 1>senior year thirteen touchdowns, a thousand plus yards. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>a big wide receiver or were you that much better

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<v Speaker 1>than the defensive back talent you were playing against, because

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<v Speaker 1>those are impressive numbers for anybody at any college anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely was a bigger receiver. I had a size

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<v Speaker 1>advantage against most of the cornerbacks I was going up against.

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably, you know, about the same height six

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<v Speaker 1>three six four two twenty to two twenty five most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. And so I think that when people

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<v Speaker 1>think of IVY League football, they actually think of it

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<v Speaker 1>as a lot worse than it is, because as I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone up the levels of competition, each time I elevate,

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<v Speaker 1>so that East West game was the first experience of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then here too, it's all the jump is always

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than I expected, and I think that's a tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to the quality of football it's being played in the

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<v Speaker 1>IVY League. But I mean, yeah, I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>really good quarterbacks, both of which are in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and really good, you know, surrounding teammates as well,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's the receivers an alignment. So going back one

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<v Speaker 1>more time to do a high school playoff game, he

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<v Speaker 1>had nineteen catches for two hundred and ninety three yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that number one was anybody covering you? And number two,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have an offense that exposed great receivers to

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<v Speaker 1>this style football? Because when I think of Minnesota, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of more of you know, the time, the weather

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<v Speaker 1>conditions and everything you're playing up there. Just back to

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<v Speaker 1>your high school roots. Was at us? You know, did

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<v Speaker 1>you throw it more often than run it? We did

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<v Speaker 1>because I had a very talented quarterback in high school too,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean we had been throwing it a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that year, but that game was actually in like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five degree weather outside and like at the University of

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota college field, so it wasn't really passing conditions. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was our strength that year, and the quarterback was

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<v Speaker 1>looking my way about that game. Yeah, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>coldest game we've ever done at University of Minnesota. When

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<v Speaker 1>the metrodome went belly up and we had to play

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<v Speaker 1>that game. I'll never forget remember we did that TV

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<v Speaker 1>show outside that place. That was the coldest I've ever been,

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<v Speaker 1>so God bless you. That's for sure. Welcome to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>to fire things up in the kitchen, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't include tomatoes. Yeah, you don't like tomatoes. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were going to start talking about your abs

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<v Speaker 1>when you read Dad, I'm gonna started with shredded. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going, all right, here we go. That's tom there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Joniak and jessper Horstead. The Bears tight end

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<v Speaker 1>here joining us on Bears and all access from panc

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<v Speaker 1>Studio here at Hattis Hall along with our friends from

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<v Speaker 1>Loop Capitol. You are all around athlete a man. You

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<v Speaker 1>not only played in Metro Minnesota Metro Minneapolis football, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that was your third choice behind baseball and basketball

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<v Speaker 1>is at the order because you also played baseball Princeton

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<v Speaker 1>and tore the cover off the ball too. Is a

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<v Speaker 1>left handed hitting outfielder. Ye all right, yep, so wife

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<v Speaker 1>football third on the list now number one in your heart. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it probably has to do with success. I

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<v Speaker 1>always loved winning, and I was probably on better basketball

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<v Speaker 1>and baseball teams growing up than I ever was football.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a pretty poor historic high school record and

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<v Speaker 1>it still kind of continues, unfortunately, and so we just

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of games. That football can be really

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<v Speaker 1>brutal if you're just like losing and that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>clicking for you. And this is not to say I

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<v Speaker 1>ever disliked football or that was ever a runaway between

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<v Speaker 1>any sport, but I had truly loved all three, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to rank them in high school, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have put football third. But I never went

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<v Speaker 1>looked at pursuing basketball at the next level. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you were a kid, were you thinking big? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>thinking you were going to be, you know, some six

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<v Speaker 1>three shooting guard in the NBA? Were you going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a left handed, power hitting outfielder. What were you?

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<v Speaker 1>What were you thinking? What was your life plan as

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid. To be honest, I dreamed of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I was younger, but I never really it

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<v Speaker 1>was never the plan and I never expected it to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of just enjoyed each season of sports, and

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<v Speaker 1>my goal was always to continue playing them as long

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. But it was never like I was working towards,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, starting in the NFL one day. It was

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<v Speaker 1>always just, Hey, I really love what I'm doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how long can I keep this coming? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you surprised right now? Yeah? I think I'm continuously surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by how far that approach has taken me. But I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's a really important message for parents

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, because you know, there comes a point in

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<v Speaker 1>time where you're going to make a decision when you

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate yourself to a sport, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of kids do it too young. You're probably a better

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<v Speaker 1>football player now because of the hand eye coordination that

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<v Speaker 1>you got from baseball, the footwork you get from basketball

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So was there someone in your life that said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to keep playing all three sports. Don't kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dedicate or decided as a ten year old that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be pro whatever. I would totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the cross training has helped me so much,

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<v Speaker 1>not only from a physical standpoint, from mental standpoint too.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just be so excited to approach each new season.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I would say my parents were so supportive

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<v Speaker 1>of constantly playing different sports and continuing them all year round.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I also was very fortunate to have coaches

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<v Speaker 1>that understood that and also supported that because I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of youth coaches don't like it. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it at all. They want you year round and

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<v Speaker 1>they want kind of that control that comes with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And my coaches were always very understanding, even if that

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<v Speaker 1>meant like I'm absolutely practice a little bit early to

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<v Speaker 1>go to an AAU basketball game that I have, they

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<v Speaker 1>were always like more than willing to let that happen. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember reading a comment about you by

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Pace during training camp. He says, Jasper has a

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<v Speaker 1>really high ceiling. What is that? Is your high ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>going to come because you're going to become a better

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<v Speaker 1>blocker out of a stance as you're ceiling going to

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<v Speaker 1>be exposed, because they're going to find out that you

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<v Speaker 1>are a tight end that has the receivers the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of a wide receiver. Where it is your ceiling when

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<v Speaker 1>you know where you're at now and where you think

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<v Speaker 1>about where you could be in years to come, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can find my ceiling. I think what's most

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to me is that I have never had an

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<v Speaker 1>off season of football in my life. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I've played football outside of the fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>so with that you get great I think hand eye

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<v Speaker 1>coordination in my opinion from baseball and you know, other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from basketball. But I think that I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit behind in the strength training and a little behind

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the football techniques that you really get

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to focus on that stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season rather than you know, when you're just playing

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<v Speaker 1>games and it's hard to gain strength during the season

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<v Speaker 1>you're just trying to maintain really, So I think for me,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the blocking and kind of catching the

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff that I maybe didn't focus as much on,

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<v Speaker 1>with the stuff that I was able to develop by

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<v Speaker 1>playing other sports, and so then I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be a more better rounded tight end. Essentially, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of clay for Kevin Gilbride. Yeah, pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends coach with guys that you're leaning on in

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<v Speaker 1>that room as well. What have those conversations been like

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<v Speaker 1>with those guys. I mean you got a gamut of players,

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<v Speaker 1>guys with experience like Trey Burton, Bradley saw making a

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<v Speaker 1>conversion himself, then young guys. I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>talks much. He didn't seem like it as but he's

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<v Speaker 1>sure is the type of player you want on your

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<v Speaker 1>football team. And JP Holts that real seriousness to him,

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<v Speaker 1>ruggedness to him. So collecting all this information and stocking

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<v Speaker 1>it away it's almost like going back to school a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, getting your doctorate in football. It absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 1>I have many notebooks that have been filled up already,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm able to get something from each

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>of the players in that room. They all have unique

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<v Speaker 1>skill sets and different expertises and parts of their game,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that you know, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to trace back what I've become. Since I've become a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end, a few things that might be seeing ture

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I think you would look back and find

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that came from those guys. Are the routes

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<v Speaker 1>completely different at the tight end position than the wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver position? And can you take things from your experience

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<v Speaker 1>as a wide receiver and incorporate them in tight end routes?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're really similar, which is very helpful and

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<v Speaker 1>so that I can definitely take stuff that I've learned.

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<v Speaker 1>I've run a lot of routes in my career and

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<v Speaker 1>call a lot of passes, and I can apply that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in game. Have you always had size advantage? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like as a wide receiver in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and a princeton, you'd have size advantage. And now when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the different people that are responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>covering a tight end, whether it's a linebacker or a safety,

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you still have an advantage of size, height, range, and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Can you transfer that to the Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're being covered by less of an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>now than you were throughout the early portions of your career?

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all? And I think that the size difference

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<v Speaker 1>is probably smaller as well, So that's when it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>more important to focus on the art of route running

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and releases and like the finer things going to get

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.479
<v Speaker 1>you open rather than just being larger or faster than

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. So certainly it's something I've been struggling with.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I do think IV League corners and people that

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<v Speaker 1>regarding me were good, but the people that are covering me,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they're a linebacker at this level, are better.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's there's stuff that I need to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have spring ball on the IVY League? They do,

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<v Speaker 1>But I played baseball right lucky dog. I would have

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>hated you every day. Walk by the field with bat

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>with the bat, ya hit three or four and Princeton

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty dug on good. We'll talk about his baseball

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<v Speaker 1>career a little bit more and find out a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of us background. Jesper Horstad one of the newer Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna see you here moving forward to the final

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<v Speaker 1>four games of this season and to the future. Our

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<v Speaker 1>guest here on Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy. The Score. The Bears All Access is brought

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<v Speaker 1>at CDW dot com. Jeff Joni, Actim there, Jesper Horse,

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<v Speaker 1>did us our guest the Bears tight end our producers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Score Studios, Sean Anderson and Brendan Orlanski, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Before the break, we kind of teased your baseball career,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like you were a heck of a

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<v Speaker 1>player in baseball too. And I could throw a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of math out there. But your your junior season, you

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<v Speaker 1>get three twenty four Princeton with fourteen RBI. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was in thirty six games. We have three three

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<v Speaker 1>twelve For your career. You're a lefty bat and a

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<v Speaker 1>highly successful high school player. So was there a possibility

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get drafted? Did you get drafted? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. I looked it up, but I couldn't see it.

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I did not, and there was certainly a possibility. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>After my junior year is usually when the baseball stuff happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, my goal was always to continue

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<v Speaker 1>playing sports as long as possible, and so it looked

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>like that was gonna be my best option. I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting interest from teams and it looked like it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. So I did a lot of workouts for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams in the spring after I finished

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<v Speaker 1>up school and they went very well, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to get drafted. And the way it

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<v Speaker 1>works is not so much. I mean, there's so many rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not really about when you get drafted, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's more so about the signing bonus because you can

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<v Speaker 1>have guys that go in the first round to get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, less money than someone who went in the

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<v Speaker 1>fortieth round. It's a very like weird system that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to figure out. But I said a

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<v Speaker 1>number ultimately for what it would take to get me

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<v Speaker 1>to give up my football career because the IVY League

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>has some interesting rules where if you get drafted and

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>go professional in one sport, you're done with your collegiate career.

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So I would never get to come back to play

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<v Speaker 1>football my senior year. I wouldn't be able to graduate

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that year because you kind of just go um. So

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it had to wait a while for that, and to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that that made me raise my price

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit um and I got offers that were

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<v Speaker 1>just below that, but ultimately, you know, I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of set on this number, UM, and I didn't really

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>want to give up football or graduating, you know, a

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>whole everything that comes with that senior year. So it

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out. The draft came and went, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had offers throughout that summer even afterwards, UM to play

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>professional baseball, but UM, then I kind of just focused

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<v Speaker 1>on football after that, UM and that kind of bring me,

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<v Speaker 1>brang me all the way, yeah, all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>um the spring the next spring, and I chose not

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<v Speaker 1>to do baseball in hopes of you know, training for

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<v Speaker 1>football and getting ready for the pro day. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of explained earlier how that didn't go as planned.

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<v Speaker 1>But on draft day, no calls from football teams, three

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>calls from baseball teams. Oh that's interesting. So they were like, look,

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>we didn't hear your name called. Are you still interested

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in playing? And I'm like, I haven't picked up a

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<v Speaker 1>bat in a year, Like, am I really going to

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<v Speaker 1>go down this road? Like let me see if I

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have any football interest. And there wasn't very much out there,

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, you know what, I've did so

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<v Speaker 1>much training, I guess I might as well, like see,

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Like those two tryouts were kind of it like basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if it didn't work out either one of those, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of would have said, Gosh, maybe I picked the

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>wrong sport again, maybe I should try baseball. What teams

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<v Speaker 1>were they? The Angels were most interested, but a lot

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of the East Coast teams that were been able to

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<v Speaker 1>go out to my games were also in communication, the Reds, Yankees, Phillies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Interesting, So there was something that separated you

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<v Speaker 1>from getting drafted after your senior year at Princeton to

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<v Speaker 1>the point that you made you made a practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the active roster. What was the separation between

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<v Speaker 1>you and baseball? What was the one element that your

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>game was maybe couldn't survive through had to get used to.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that element? I had? No power? Was the

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>real issue? Yeah? I had zero home runs in my

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>four years, very few doubles and triples. I was a

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>great contact hitter. I got on base, I was the

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>leadoff hitter. But people don't really understand that. When you

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>have a six three like two twenty five frame, They're like, well,

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>where's the power? Like this isn't our prototype for a

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>leadoff hitter. This doesn't really add up. So I think

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that threw a lot of people for a loop, which

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>is fine. I didn't really fit the mold. Was that

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>frustrating for you not to have power? And did you truck?

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what did you try to create that power?

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>It was very frustrating, and I tried to put on

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>more strength and work on my swing. But ultimately I

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<v Speaker 1>stand by the fact that baseball is the hardest sport

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's not about that. It's about like mobility and

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<v Speaker 1>timing and pitch recognition, and I was okay at that stuff.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But my swing really just wasn't catered to be a

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>power power hitter. It was meant to put balls in play,

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I was able to run stuff out with

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>my feet. So you imagine, though, the power element that

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about that is involved in football is something

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that's as needed as it is in baseball. It's a

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of a different use of the word power. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how did you gain that confidence within yourself

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that you knew that if you had limitations and the

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>power that you needed in baseball, you had the ability

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>to develop those powers to play football. I think I think,

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<v Speaker 1>actually in football is just a little bit more straightforward

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>because it is more strength based. I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the MLB, you have guys that have like

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>wiry thin arms that are hitting thirty home runs a year,

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and you have guys that are very large in thirty

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>home runs a year, whereas like for the most part,

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>in football, the guys that are creating power are strong

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and they have good fundamentals and they're low and so

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I believe that really good coaching can get

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<v Speaker 1>me there. And I believe the same with baseball. But

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, teams didn't necessarily believe that at the combine?

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you do like fifteen reps at two twenty five?

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to the Combine? But your pro day? Yeah,

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>those are the numbers. So are are you stronger now

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>than you were at your pro day? And then as

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you were introduced to the NFL facilities, you have the

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>ability to make great strides and you know, in great

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>increases for yourself. So is the nutrition, is the technology,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is the weight room and all those instruments to help

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you are you are they benefiting you throughout the season

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<v Speaker 1>and you know even going into your first off season? Yeah? Absolutely,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>The facility here is incredible. And not only that, but

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the people that are in the facility are so helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the strength coaches, all of them. I've found great

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>help from all of them. And the nutritionists. They help

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>me put on weight and not feel slower, you know.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And the strength guys are helping me get power and mobility,

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>which is something I really neglected in college. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm not only stronger, but more agile and

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>haven't lost speed. Jesper Horse died our guest here on Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>All access brought to you by IGS Energy here at

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<v Speaker 1>PANC Studios at Hollis saw Jeff Joni Actom there here

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>with the rookie tight end out of Princeton. As we

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>are cataloging your life right before your eyes in front

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of a live audience here, I bet you haven't talked

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>about this much of your life before, although your hometown

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>paper did a story on you this week and they

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>did a nice job kind of going through your history

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, which, by the way, Tommy was the twenty

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen high school Athlete of the Year in Minneapolis. And

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>some of the names are all baseball players. You've got Mauer,

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>You've got Paul Mollitter. You've got Dave Winfield, who was

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a two sports star obviously too, So that's some pretty

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>impressive company to share that that headline with, don't you think. Yeah,

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the most exciting days in high school.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that was when I was a freshman, someone

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I knew had won that award, and you know, since

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that day it was circled on my account because I

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>always valued being a well rounded athlete and there's also

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>like an academic and you know, a community service side

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of it as well. And to me, that was the

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>award that I was always shooting for, not so much

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like All Conference, all state, but to get it in

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a general recognition for being an athlete was

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the top. You know, you're playing football now. You chose

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Princeton to play football, and had you know, had the

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>coach said, hey, you know, I'm not going to let

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you play baseball, don't maybe not would maybe wouldn't have

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>gone to Princeton. But how important was it to you

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>that an Ivy League school was interested in you beyond

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>just football. It's academics to go to Princeton, to have

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it on your resume that I am at Princeton grad

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>or was that secondary to football? No, that was certainly

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>primary because the goal was to play sports as long

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>as possible. But I knew that eventually that day was

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>going to come to an end, and academics were very

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>value to my household, So you know, I was looking

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>at the top academic schools I could possibly get into

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and potentially play sports in. But that was the prior

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>as I was looking. Were you looking at anything close

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>or was everything certain distances away? Was there any schools

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota or the surrounding areas that maybe would have been,

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, closer for you that to allow your support

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>to stay part of it. Yeah, there were a couple.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to go to Northwestern. They didn't really

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>have much interest in me, neither the University of Minnesota.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I also was interested in seeing other

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>part of the United States as well, So it just

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>worked out. The IVY League. I mean, I think that

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the two sport thing played a big partner too, because

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 1>it checked the box for academics, but then they also

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>would allow me to play both, which really very few

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>schools that I talked to you did. It's it seems

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I've had the good fortune to be

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>recruited because I, you know, we had good success in

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>high school. I had an older brother that was a

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 1>great football player. And it seems like the IVY League

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>is always a magical land that's almost unattainable because you know,

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>it's smarter than everybody else in the world. So you

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>mean they weren't coming to your house, No, No, but

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I did get letters. But I think about the guys

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>that go there, because I did have a high school classmate,

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>two high school classmates that went on to play at Yale.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you think about that, you know that

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>far distance land of the IVY League, and wasn't intimidating

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>going there. Um, you know, you come from Minnesota. Now

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're amongst the brightest of the brightest in

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>all of college. Yeah. It was on the football field

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>and in the classroom as well. Um I got there

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, I think I kind of I

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>thought I would be able to contribute as a freshman

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>in the IVY League setting. I think it always just

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>gets talked down. And I get there and I was like,

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, like these guys are really really good. And

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>then I get in the classroom and I'm like, Wow,

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>these people are really really smart. And I actually like

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>had the misfortune of doing well on like my first

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>test to be like Okay, I got this, and then

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I took the mid term for that class later on

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and did horribly, and I was like, oh, I don't

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>have this, Like I need to completely change how I

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>approached school and study and kind of the same with

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>football too. So hard to do both IVY League and

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>play two sports. That's quite an accomplishment that I definitely

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>would not be able to do heads for sure. Many

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of us. What was your major? Sociology? Very good, Jesper Horsted,

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>our guest one more segment to go here on Bears

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>years from our producer Dan Ver really chewing the audience.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>He does a great job. Nice work along with Pause

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<v Speaker 1>rang Or engineer Sean Anderson and Brandon Orlowski. I think

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that's how we say your name. I was reading Dan's

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>handwriting and I don't know if I nailed it, but

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>don't be offended if I got it wrong. Tom, I'm

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joniac. That's Tom there. I'm battling the cold. I

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>know some people my friends say, hey, you need some

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>honey and lemon. We'll work through it. That's what you

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>do in Chicago, Garling, I get sick every November in

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the early December. I don't know why. We're brought to

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0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Chicago Bears. YouTube. Guys have something in common,

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>but I bet he doesn't know it. So according to

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 1>my research, you've been on a surfboard a time or two,

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>so you like surfing. This man lived for it in Maui,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So you guys can talk shop a little bit. What's

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>what's the draw with the surfboard? It looks like you've

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>done a lot of traveling in your in your life,

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.919
<v Speaker 1>I have done some traveling yep, um, both in high

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>school and in college. I was able to do some

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>as well. Um. Yeah, I got to try surfing for

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a summer. Uh and it was extremely hard and I

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>did every single day and I still wouldn't say I'm

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>good at it. So where was it? Argentina, Nicarago? Okay,

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>what brought you there. You guys could talk waves. I'm

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>getting out of the conversation. Although I was on a

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>board once with he invited me, I got on, I

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>got Did I not get on that board? Yes? I

0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>did catch a wave? Yes, But he also no, I

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>almost fractured. Is fine too. I have a picture of

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Jeff being slammed so hard by a wave on the beach.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>That is actually his feet were kicking him in the

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>back of the head while his chest was hitting the ground.

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And there's a there's photographic evidence of it. I know

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you laugh if you will, but there is photographic proof.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But the draw of that is it in your soul?

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Now to surf? Um? I loved it? U, I would

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>say yes. And also it was so frustrating. Um Like,

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I devoted so much time to it and it just

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>was not easy. So I love it. I'm excited to

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 1>go back. I haven't really done it since that summer,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 1>but I definitely will at some point, probably post career.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>It gets easier each time you do it, you know.

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the hardest thing that anybody can ever do

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>is the first time they get on a surfboard and

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>paddle out into an ocean and you're facing the waves

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 1>because fatigue sets in immediately, and then you think, oh

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>my god, I don't know if I could ever be

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>able to do this again. Then the second time you

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>do it, it's just a little bit easier and your

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>balance is a little bit more efficient, and so each

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and then the first time you surf a wave, the

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>first time you surf it, all you want to do

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.439
<v Speaker 1>is surf a bigger wave, and then the bigger wave

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you surf, you want to It just kind of all

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>goes hand in hand. I know we're telling football here,

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>but it just sparked the thought I never asked you this.

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>When was the first time you did it? And why?

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>What drew you to it? I mean, what was the

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>connection to I knew I wanted to retire from the NFL,

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and I had one more year on my contract and

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I had it with the Dolphins, and I told coach

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>true I go, I think I'm going to retire, and

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, I never listened to old players. At

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, I'll call you in a

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of months. And so I packed up everything, I

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>went to Hawaii and I stayed there for five months,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>surf every single day of my life went from like

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>two ninety to two forty two thirty five or something.

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And when they called me from any camp, I'd tell

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>him I don't think he wanted two hundred and twenty

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>five pound guard. So that was I mean, I needed

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>something that it kind of it puts the same feeling

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in the pit of your stomach that when you're driving

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a soldier field on Thursday night. You got that certain

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>amount of nervousness, but it's it's a healthy nervousness that

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it puts in your stomach. I would agree outdoorsman as well,

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>being up there for Minnesota, yep, yep. Certainly spend my

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>fair share of time outside as a kid. What do

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you love? I love fishing. I grew up on a

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>lake and so a lot of times the summer, I

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>guess in the winter as well. We had an ice house.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I would just sit out there and catch fish in

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>front of the place. Swim had friends all around the lake,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>kayak to their house. It's beautiful. Yeah, best fish ever caught.

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I caught a huge one this summer actually after OTAs,

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I was up on Lake Superior fishing from shore and

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>we caught this like massive northern pike don't have inches

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>or weights, but it was massive. It's always those accidental

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>catches that you know, you I don't have my camera

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>with me or you know, just things aren't in place

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to brag of out right. Yeah, crazy how that happens.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So what do you what do you talk about this

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>as being your first offseason and you can't even be

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it now because you have the most difficult

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>stretch of regular season games left to go here. But

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know you said that you took a lot of notes.

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever take notes about what you want to

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>accomplish in the future, because you know, you think about

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>going to college playing baseball. You just don't have the

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>off seasons to do anything, and it's got to be

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>quite quite the reward for you. Do you mean on

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the field or no, I mean just any you know anything?

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, Okay, this is what I want to do

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in terms of weight and body structure. This is what

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>my goal is. This is what I need to watch

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>in terms of tape evaluation throughout the offseason, because I

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's your the personal investment that you make in

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself is that's when you're going to get the biggest results.

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be when you're trying to encourage

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to work hard or do something extra, it's what you're

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>going to do to yourself. Yeah, I would agree, and

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff is what I'm looking forward to

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>this offseason. I mean, I'm guessing the team gives us

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a weight plan to follow, so there's not much need

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>on that end. I'm going to just follow that to

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.399
<v Speaker 1>a t and I believe that will take me where

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I need to be for the most part physically. But

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, I am just seeing so much

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>more in terms of like what I can do to

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>be a better route runner, and I think that's stuff

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that I can really put to work on in the offseason.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's releases speed, agility. Like I said, mobility and

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>flexibility is something I really didn't focus on in college,

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and now I am every single day and I am

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>noticing differences in terms of my cuts and stuff as well.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's something I'm going to continue. The thrill that

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going to bring back to your hometown when you

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>go back, then you start working out in local weight

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>rooms and stuff. Do you have that type of infrastructure

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>already built in at home where you have a group

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of guys or a group of people that you like

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>working out with. It are going to encourage you to

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>be a stronger player as much as you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage them. You know, maybe I did in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone is keeping up with that. But I always

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<v Speaker 1>love to work out alone. And so I had like

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<v Speaker 1>a little wait thing in our like garage, and I

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<v Speaker 1>spent most of my time there and i'd say gained

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<v Speaker 1>most of my strength And they're just kind of following

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<v Speaker 1>my own plans, and I do have people that will

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<v Speaker 1>certainly push me, and I think I'm gonna spend some

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<v Speaker 1>time with teammates this summer as well, because there's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of no better way to train than that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also looking forward to just, you know, really getting

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<v Speaker 1>in a gym, and you know, when you were playing

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<v Speaker 1>multiple sports where you reluctant to get too strong in

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<v Speaker 1>an offseason because you knew you had a transfer your

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just you know, your limberness and everything to baseball. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say so. I think that I was always

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<v Speaker 1>trying to gain as much strength as possible without being

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<v Speaker 1>dumb about it and overtraining because I was in season

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<v Speaker 1>year round. I was always trying to make sure I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even maintaining but improving, but also not getting injured.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesper Horse did our guest here on Bears All Access.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of minutes to go before we get you

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<v Speaker 1>set for Bears Cowboys coming up on Thursday night, the

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<v Speaker 1>first of a four pack of interesting games down the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>as they start with a Cowboy team coming in with

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<v Speaker 1>three losses in four games. We'll have it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven eighty and one h five point nine

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<v Speaker 1>f WBBM starting at four o'clock with a pregame show

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<v Speaker 1>and seven twenty two the kickoff. Ron, Jim and Jay

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<v Speaker 1>will join you on the pregame show as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course all the great programming here on Chicago Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Radio six seventy the Score. I had a conversation this

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<v Speaker 1>week at some length with David Montgomery, who played in

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve and played at a very high level,

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<v Speaker 1>and that whole speed of the game thing for a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been doing this a long time. Tom's Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear it every year. It's almost like the day

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<v Speaker 1>of the first snow. Every TV station sends out their

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<v Speaker 1>crew to check it out. You can guarantee a rookie's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say speed of the game, You're in a different situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw the speed of the game for the greater

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<v Speaker 1>part of the year as a practice player, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the defense ready, playing scout team, working off cards

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<v Speaker 1>of another team's offense. How did that help you adjust

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<v Speaker 1>to the speed of the game on Sundays here in

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<v Speaker 1>the brief time you've been on the roster. The speeds

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<v Speaker 1>are different, but the caliber of players are the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And the defense that I'm going up against every day

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the practice squad was in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>second to none. And so to deal with the strength

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<v Speaker 1>of Khalil Mack, even if he's not necessarily one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent at practice, is still a massive adjustment from what

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do in the IVY League. So that

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<v Speaker 1>certainly prepared me and was kind of a baptism by

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<v Speaker 1>fire at first. But then you start to learn techniques

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<v Speaker 1>and how to apply him, and you watch the film

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you start chipping away at that gap

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<v Speaker 1>that was between me and our best tight ends. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said, when I was out there

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<v Speaker 1>in that first game a couple of weeks ago, it

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<v Speaker 1>was so fast, so fast, faster than we practiced, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I tried to speed things up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit that game, and that's not really how you

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<v Speaker 1>combat that. Instead, you kind of got to slow yourself

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<v Speaker 1>down or remind yourself what your assignment is and what

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<v Speaker 1>your techniques are. And I think I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do a better job of that last game, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something I hope to keep building on. Have you ever

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>broke the huddle yet and drew a blink? Because you're

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<v Speaker 1>an intelligent guy, I don't really see that happening to you,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a part of everybody's career that

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<v Speaker 1>it'll happen. It won't happen often else you're not gonna play,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you know, maybe you have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going, oh my gosh, what am I doing

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<v Speaker 1>on this? Yeah, I say no, because you are. I

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<v Speaker 1>think all the bands would feel better. But well, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really played that many plays yet. I only really

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<v Speaker 1>played in two preseason games that I've only really played

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<v Speaker 1>what maybe like twenty twenty five offensive snaps and those plays,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had an idea of what plays I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in on, and I could draw them in

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<v Speaker 1>my sleep, so no, but that's not to say I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>In college and face with the bigger workload than I wouldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't going to mess up the few that

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<v Speaker 1>I had. Well, it's it's been fun watching you in

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<v Speaker 1>the short time you've been here, so keep it going.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Thank you for joining us. Jessper

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<v Speaker 1>Horsted our guest here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

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<v Speaker 1>The Score. That's gonna wrap up Bears All Access. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again to our producers Dan Barilli, Sean Anderson, Brendan Ar

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<v Speaker 1>last get our engineer paulsi Rang Jess per Ntent. There,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Johnny Aco talking on the radio Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears gonna beat those cowboys a soldier field. I'm how

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