WEBVTT - NFL REPORT: NFL Draft Season is Upon Us

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 2>And typically we start the show off James with celebratory

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<v Speaker 2>happy feel Let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Get everybody ready.

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<v Speaker 2>But as you know, very well as all of us

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<v Speaker 2>know by now, the February fourteenth Chiefs celebration was mired

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<v Speaker 2>by a shooting that victimized twenty three people and left

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<v Speaker 2>one person dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're recording this show early Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Afternoon, so there could be updates to what I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to say before the show airs. But this is the

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<v Speaker 2>latest from Kansas City Police Chief Stacy Graves that preliminary

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<v Speaker 2>investigative finding shown that there was no nexus to terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>or homegrown violent extremism. This appeared to be a dispute

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<v Speaker 2>between several people that ended in gunfire.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the last I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About these idiots who committed a horrible crime on innocent people.

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<v Speaker 1>In the great city of Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>During the overnight hours, we learned there were twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>victims off yesterday's shooting. In one of our victims, Elizabeth Galvin,

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<v Speaker 2>forty three years old, died. We're still learning about her,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, she's beloved by many. To her friends and family,

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<v Speaker 2>we are with you. We are working tirelessly to investigate

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<v Speaker 2>her murder. The twenty two victims age reigned between eight

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<v Speaker 2>and forty seven years old. At least half of our

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<v Speaker 2>victims are under the age of sixteen. Again, that's Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City Police Chief Stacy Graves. Thursday, early in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>James You and Sherry Burris and our fantastic crew ken

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<v Speaker 2>Field at O'Brien. A lot of our great camera people

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<v Speaker 2>were there for NFL Network doing the coverage of the parade.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna turn it over to you here because

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<v Speaker 2>it went from like the most celebratory of highs to

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<v Speaker 2>something I'm sure nobody saw coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I appreciate that. Steve and Well said.

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<v Speaker 4>What I want to get across here is a couple

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<v Speaker 4>specific points. I've hosted this parade almost every single year

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<v Speaker 4>I've been at a NFL network all the way back

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty fifteen. I've done it in a variety of cities.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of my favorite assignments every year. I did

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<v Speaker 4>the two previous ones in Kansas City and then I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to do this one. I think people need

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<v Speaker 4>to remember that this parade means so much to fan

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<v Speaker 4>bases because so few people actually get to go to

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<v Speaker 4>NFL games in person. So this celebration in each city

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times. For a lot of passionate fans,

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<v Speaker 4>Steve is their only time to see their heroes, their

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<v Speaker 4>favorite players in person. It is a huge deal for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of fans and a lot of families because

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<v Speaker 4>school is usually canceled and you're allowed to go down

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<v Speaker 4>as a family and celebrate your team's victory, right and

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<v Speaker 4>you get an opportunity, we saw it during most of

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<v Speaker 4>the parade on Wednesday, to maybe interact with these players,

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<v Speaker 4>get a handshake, a fist bump, a you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>selfie if you could. And people go all out for

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<v Speaker 4>these things, you know, signs and camping out the night before.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a big deal for a lot of fans.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mentioned kids specifically because it's a big deal

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<v Speaker 4>for kids. This is a core memory, or should be

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<v Speaker 4>a core memory for a lot of kids with their families,

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<v Speaker 4>and because of what happened yesterday to all of us

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<v Speaker 4>that were there, this is sadly a core memory that

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<v Speaker 4>is going to stick with a lot of children for

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<v Speaker 4>all the wrong reasons. And that's the part that I

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<v Speaker 4>keep thinking about after what transpired, and it's affecting anyone

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<v Speaker 4>that was involved in any stretch, whether you were as

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<v Speaker 4>Steve mentioned, twenty three people that are directly impacted with

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<v Speaker 4>gunshot injuries, and one family has a member of their

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<v Speaker 4>family and Liz not coming home. But then there's the

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<v Speaker 4>people that are friends and family of those individuals, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it extends to everybody that was there, everybody that

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<v Speaker 4>was close, everybody, no matter how far you were away

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<v Speaker 4>at the parade, it's impacting you one way or another,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's physically, whether it's mentally.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure where I stand mentally. Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>We're about one hundred and fifty yards from where this

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<v Speaker 4>transpired on our stage. We had as a team to

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<v Speaker 4>hide under our stage together our entire production, until law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 4>who was brilliant came and got us and kept us safe.

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<v Speaker 4>But this isn't really about us there. This is about

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<v Speaker 4>I think the young people. Steve that a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 4>as you mentioned, were specifically impacted. But as we were

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<v Speaker 4>trying to leave and so many of us are stuck there,

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<v Speaker 4>We're in a parking garage that's somewhat secure, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking to a family in a truck and the mother's

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<v Speaker 4>telling me how they were about fifteen yards from where

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<v Speaker 4>this transpired. And she told me she jumped on top

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<v Speaker 4>of her three boys, and her husband jumped on top

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<v Speaker 4>of her just to keep these three boys safe. And

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<v Speaker 4>I see them sitting in the backseat of this truck

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<v Speaker 4>and they're in their Mahomes Jersey and they're Kelsey Jersey,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're justin Reed Jersey. And I'm the only idiot

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<v Speaker 4>in a suit there, Steve, So I stand out pretty

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<v Speaker 4>pretty well. And one of these boys recognizes me from

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<v Speaker 4>NFL Network, and they wanted to step out of the

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<v Speaker 4>truck and take a picture. We're going nowhere in this

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<v Speaker 4>parking garage, nobody can move, nobody can do anything, and

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<v Speaker 4>we take a picture. And the only thing I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 4>of is that these three kids memory of this parade

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<v Speaker 4>is dramatically different than what they thought they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to have when they went to Union Station. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just looked at him and said, like, hey, you guys

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk some football, Like you want to ask

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<v Speaker 4>me anything about Pat, You want to ask me anything

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<v Speaker 4>about Trav Like, let's talk some ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>My first thought, Steve, was, how do I change their

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<v Speaker 4>memory of this or maybe distract them for just a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>And try to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's what sticks with me from being there,

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<v Speaker 4>is that things like this and it's it's not the

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<v Speaker 4>form to talk about my stance on anything, but things

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<v Speaker 4>like this, when they happen, young people being affected, and

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<v Speaker 4>we can't even imagine the number of ways they can be.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'd like to move forward.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to talk some football and hopefully distract some

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<v Speaker 4>more people.

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<v Speaker 3>From thinking about what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>But we have to acknowledge it and acknowledge what transpired

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<v Speaker 4>and that it still has an impact on a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people. And we'll continue to and we'll see how

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<v Speaker 4>this shapes things moving forward. But I think we should

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<v Speaker 4>we should talk some balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve well JP, well done by you, and you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about memories.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got that photo with you, and that's going.

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<v Speaker 2>To change some of the memories that may be traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>to them and a lot of other people. So much

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<v Speaker 2>respect to you, much respect to law enforcement, the medical enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>and those good Samaritans who helped apprehend the bad guys

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<v Speaker 2>and help save the lives of so many JP. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>well done. Also coming up on the show, we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have our draft analyst Lance zero line. But

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<v Speaker 2>up next Terry Fonto, the Falcons general manager. You see

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<v Speaker 2>him with his new coach, Rohie Morrison t president Greg Beatles.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to talk about the Falcons plans for the

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<v Speaker 2>draft and possibly some trains coming up. That's after the

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<v Speaker 2>break on the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll de tate Belsie.

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<v Speaker 3>This is coming home.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you get a chance to go back home

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<v Speaker 5>in this profession, it is extremely important and it is

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<v Speaker 5>extremely critical to everybody involved. I can express the joy

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<v Speaker 5>that I have right now to be able to come

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<v Speaker 5>back and work with the Blanks, to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>come back and work with all these people around me

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<v Speaker 5>that I've been with for years. And I could talk

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<v Speaker 5>about this for the rest of the press conference and

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<v Speaker 5>I probably may bore you, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>you've ever been in the spot to coming back home,

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<v Speaker 5>but this is certainly the best people in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We are back at the NFL Report and you just

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<v Speaker 2>heard new Falcons head coach Raheem Morris at his introductory

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<v Speaker 2>press conference and JP we are now joined by Falcons

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<v Speaker 2>General manager Terry Fonteau, who was part of the committee

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<v Speaker 2>that helped bring Raheem.

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<v Speaker 1>Morris back to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Terry, thanks so much for joining us, and let's get

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<v Speaker 2>right to it, Terry, the decision to go with Raheem.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's been in your building for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks now.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a feeling you have of bringing him back and

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<v Speaker 2>you and him getting to work together for the first time.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Steve James, first of all, appreciate y'all having me on.

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<v Speaker 6>And before we get into football, I do want to

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<v Speaker 6>acknowledge yesterday and let everyone in Kansas City know that

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<v Speaker 6>down here in Atlanta, our thoughts and prayers are with them,

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<v Speaker 6>with everyone that was affected by those tragic events. But

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<v Speaker 6>to your question, very excited about Raheem, and it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a thorough, detailed process with a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people involved. We talked to fourteen of the brighter minds

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<v Speaker 6>in the NFL, including some veterans, some younger guys. But

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<v Speaker 6>man Raheem really stick out throughout that whole process. His infectious,

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<v Speaker 6>infectious positive energy, the football acumen he has. He he

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<v Speaker 6>has a clear vision of what we're gonna do here,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's a two time champion. He knows how we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to get there. So it's been really fun working

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<v Speaker 6>with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Terry, appreciate your knowledging Kansas City off the top, classic move,

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate it. What I'd like to pass us forward to

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<v Speaker 4>is and once you hire a coach, once you have

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<v Speaker 4>a staff, I don't know if people at home really

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<v Speaker 4>know what goes on inside of a building. If you

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<v Speaker 4>could kind of tell us kind of the process once

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<v Speaker 4>that staff's in place, how both sides from evaluating what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening in free agency and the upcoming draft and just

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<v Speaker 4>the process from your side and the coaching staff side,

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<v Speaker 4>how you maybe start mending it all together, and how

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<v Speaker 4>you go about the next several weeks after Raheem is hired.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, great question. We're right in the midst of that

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<v Speaker 6>process right now. The first step is to really take

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<v Speaker 6>a hard look at your roster. You really have to

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<v Speaker 6>look internal. Before you go out and buy new clothes,

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<v Speaker 6>you need to know what you have in your own closet.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's what we're doing right now. And we're spending

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of time with the coaches, and not only

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<v Speaker 6>the new coaches, but the coaches that have been here,

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<v Speaker 6>really going through our entire roster. And we'll spend time

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<v Speaker 6>in those roster meetings in the coming weeks. And once

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<v Speaker 6>you do that, you spend a lot of time with

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<v Speaker 6>the coaches going through the specific profile and the details

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<v Speaker 6>of the players that we're going to be bringing in.

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<v Speaker 6>Spending time with the coaches and the scouts and getting

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<v Speaker 6>the staff together in regards to what's going to be

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<v Speaker 6>the profile of what a Falcon looks like in all

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<v Speaker 6>three phases of the game. And from there we can

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<v Speaker 6>devise the right plan and make sure we have the

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<v Speaker 6>plan to attack free agency, to attack the draft in

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<v Speaker 6>the right way. So it starts off with looking at

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<v Speaker 6>your own players.

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<v Speaker 2>But Terry, you've been part of the process of building

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<v Speaker 2>this roster for the past few years, and there is

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<v Speaker 2>no denying there is a tremendous amount of talent on

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<v Speaker 2>both sides of the ball. I mean, you really got

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<v Speaker 2>big on defensive free agency last year. You've drafted big

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<v Speaker 2>at the skill positions on offense. But the big question

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<v Speaker 2>is the quarterback. I mean, I've been told the people

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<v Speaker 2>in your organization, you guys planned to be very aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>to get the quarterback that you need. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean trading up? Does that mean going into

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<v Speaker 2>free agency? What exactly does that mean?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we won't close any door.

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<v Speaker 6>Steve You're right, that's the top priority for us this offseason,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's exciting again not only people that have been

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<v Speaker 6>in the building, but people outside the building from Raheem

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<v Speaker 6>and Zach tj Yates, Ken Zampz, DJ Williams. We have

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of really smart people in the building. We're

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<v Speaker 6>going to spend a lot of time together make sure

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<v Speaker 6>we attack that the right way. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 6>close any doors, be it trades, free agency, the draft.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll make sure we keep an open mind there and

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to attack it and make sure we get

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<v Speaker 6>it right.

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<v Speaker 3>Terry mentioned the draft. You're sitting there at eight.

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<v Speaker 4>A quarterback could be in play there to day you

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<v Speaker 4>may feel the decision has to be made that you

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<v Speaker 4>need to move up. This is kind of what you

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<v Speaker 4>can tell with this question as well. What I'm fascinated with.

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<v Speaker 4>How do those conversations kind of start with other teams.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the pacing I guess in terms of the conversations

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<v Speaker 4>you would maybe have just to feel it out, And

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<v Speaker 4>when do those really around the NFL start heating up.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're right, I'm actually sitting right outside. We're right

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<v Speaker 6>in the midst of our February draft meetings. Our area

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<v Speaker 6>scouts are in town, and we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>stuff going on simultaneous to getting ready to get with

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<v Speaker 6>the coaches and work with our roster. We're also going

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<v Speaker 6>through our draft meetings right now, just with the scouts.

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<v Speaker 7>So this is the.

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<v Speaker 6>Phase where you're just meeting about with the scouts and

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<v Speaker 6>then we get the coaches involved and then we get

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<v Speaker 6>into the combine and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'll tell you what, it's a really strong draft,

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<v Speaker 6>not just a quarterback, but a lot of positions.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's really fun.

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<v Speaker 6>To your question, talking about that communication, you keep that

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<v Speaker 6>open line and you start talking right now, just touching

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<v Speaker 6>base with because you have some some gms that were

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<v Speaker 6>just put in place in some areas, so you make

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<v Speaker 6>sure you have that line of communication open. You spend

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<v Speaker 6>time at the combine and so we're always talking about everything.

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<v Speaker 6>We're very open to communicate. But it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 6>fun year because I would say it's a very strong draft.

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<v Speaker 8>Terry.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're not gonna give me an exact answer

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<v Speaker 2>on this, and I would expect any I asked question

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes to get him.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well let's go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the one player, hey, the one player who continues

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<v Speaker 2>to be linked to you via trade potential trade conversations

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<v Speaker 2>is Justin Fields out of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>But you had an opportunity to draft him a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago, and you decided not to. Can a

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<v Speaker 2>player like Justin Field show enough evolution in the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years of his career, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you now have a coach change or maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 2>different philosophy to make you change your mind about going

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<v Speaker 2>and getting a player like him.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, I gave you too much credit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I knew it.

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<v Speaker 7>I answer that question, Steve, I'm gonna get a call.

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<v Speaker 6>My cell phone's right there, and Ken Fiora is gonna

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<v Speaker 6>call me right away, and we're gonna be We're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>have tampering and I'm talking about how excited we were

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<v Speaker 6>about this draft.

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<v Speaker 7>We're gonna lose a draft pick if I answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, But what I'm saying is, but what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is can.

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<v Speaker 2>A player then But can a player then who maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't select in a draft.

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<v Speaker 3>You have an a particular point.

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<v Speaker 2>Can they evolve over a couple of years, you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this player is better than what I thought and he

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<v Speaker 2>fits what we're trying to do. And it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>to you out in your quarterback, But can a player

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<v Speaker 2>showed that type of growth as to where you really

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<v Speaker 2>get sweet on him so to speak?

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<v Speaker 6>No, that that is a that's an outstanding question, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's why you do. You evaluate players at every point

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<v Speaker 6>in their career. And that's why it's so critical as

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<v Speaker 6>we go through for a agency and again possible trades,

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<v Speaker 6>we're evaluating every player. You're never going to look at

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<v Speaker 6>a report from last year or the year before. We're

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<v Speaker 6>going to look at the evolution of the players. And

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<v Speaker 6>so yes, it's answer your question. Your question, it is

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<v Speaker 6>we have to be detailed and evaluate players in every phase.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, it's the same way with people.

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<v Speaker 6>You can have someone that you know, you knew at

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<v Speaker 6>a certain point in their career as a coach, and

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<v Speaker 6>then now three or four years later, Okay, were they

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<v Speaker 6>at this point in their career? We all grow and adapt, So,

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<v Speaker 6>speaking in general about any player that we have to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure we have recent reports and know where they

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<v Speaker 6>are at this point in their careers.

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<v Speaker 4>Terry, I love that in terms of growth and adapting,

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody has a different opinion on every player, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what you're trying to do in the room

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<v Speaker 4>and see what everybody has to say. So there was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of talk with how you guys were going

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<v Speaker 4>to use b Jon Robinson taking them where you took

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<v Speaker 4>him a year ago. I'm just curious what Raheem's conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with you is like when he came in going this

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<v Speaker 4>is what I may.

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<v Speaker 3>Bee envision for a back like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you guys kind of talked about his evolution going

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<v Speaker 4>into year two.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're still working through that and that's a part

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<v Speaker 6>of going through the process and going through our players

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<v Speaker 6>and spending time with the staffs. What I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 6>with this staff is from uh from where we're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about Zach or Jimmy or Marquise who has been here,

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<v Speaker 6>is we do we have some really smart coaches that

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<v Speaker 6>are always learning and adapting in their open minded So

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<v Speaker 6>we'll have specific things that we want to do, but

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to make it fit our players and make

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<v Speaker 6>sure the scheme fits our players, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>go out and add some more guys. So I'm very

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<v Speaker 6>excited about this staff here because I know we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to get the most out of every player on this roster.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to go out and find some more and

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<v Speaker 6>make sure we're ready to roll this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you got the old line. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you got the running backs to pound the ball. But Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>You're evaluating some things with your area scoles and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But just maybe if you can just tell us about

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<v Speaker 2>the overall depth and talent at the quarterback spot of

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<v Speaker 2>the prospects entering this year's draft.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, good, good depth, no doubt. There's some really good

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<v Speaker 6>players and some different flavors. So there's different types of

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<v Speaker 6>quarterbacks that can do some different things. And again we're

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<v Speaker 6>going through that process right now, just with the scouts initially.

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<v Speaker 6>Then we get the coaches involved, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 6>we have some really uh smart coaches, some really good

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<v Speaker 6>guys that I'm excited to really attack that with. So

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<v Speaker 6>we know what we're looking for specifically. But it's a

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<v Speaker 6>really good group of quarterbacks this year, not only in

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<v Speaker 6>the draft, but like I said, free agency via trade,

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<v Speaker 6>there's some really talented players available and we're excited to

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<v Speaker 6>attack that.

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<v Speaker 4>I will have you on further, Terry, to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>in depth about those specific free agents.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe never mind, we won't do that. Don't worry, we

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<v Speaker 3>won't put you there.

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<v Speaker 1>With the drafts A great answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it's gonna tell me to ask the question

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<v Speaker 4>and then he's gonna say, well, okay, well we can't

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<v Speaker 4>get Tyler to there.

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<v Speaker 3>A stick with the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Another spot, looking at your defense, Terry, looking at your TV,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at at at the edge spot.

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<v Speaker 3>What what do you see out of this class?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this maybe a class where there's, you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>years it's there's a couple at the top and then

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<v Speaker 4>there's almost maybe sometimes a gap before you hit the

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<v Speaker 4>next bunch. Is this one that you can find guys

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<v Speaker 4>in different rounds that can rush the passer from the outside.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there is.

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<v Speaker 6>There are some really exciting guys at the top, like

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<v Speaker 6>you said, but also there's there's depth throughout and there's

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<v Speaker 6>there's really good players throughout the entire draft. And I

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<v Speaker 6>have a lot of confidence in our staff. I know

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<v Speaker 6>we'll find those players through off the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>But it is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's strong in that area regarding the pressure players.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is draft overall, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>really fun year. It's an exciting year, and we got

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of extra draft picks this year. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 6>about that because it's a very deep draft and there

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<v Speaker 6>are definitely some pressure players, not just the edge guys,

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<v Speaker 6>the outside backers, some there's some interior pressure players.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's exciting going into.

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<v Speaker 2>Your fourth year now in this position. What are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the key things that you've learned.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think anytime kind of what we've talked about

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<v Speaker 6>where you can get people at different phases of their career,

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<v Speaker 6>and the key is to continue to learn and always.

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<v Speaker 6>Guy gave us one mouth and two ears for a reason,

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<v Speaker 6>because we always need to be learning and listening and evolving.

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<v Speaker 6>Every year is going to be different. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>specifically sitting in this seat, you need to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>you surround yourself with really smart people and listen to

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<v Speaker 6>and learn from them. And that's what I'm always trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do, and I know the people around us are

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<v Speaker 6>always trying to continue to learn, continue to adapt because

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<v Speaker 6>every year is going to be different.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome Terry fin no Falcons GM joining us on the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL Report. Steve he wants to keep all these draft

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<v Speaker 4>picks by the way, So he's going to watch what

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<v Speaker 4>he says on our show to make sure he gets

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<v Speaker 4>to capitalize on how.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep this draft is.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're excited to keep an eye on you guys

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<v Speaker 4>down there in Atlanta. To Terry, I mean, you're a

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<v Speaker 4>fascinated team to watch this offseason with everything that you

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<v Speaker 4>guys have already and we're looking forward to what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you so much for joining Steve and I

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<v Speaker 4>on the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up, we're going to talk to some defensive coordinators

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<v Speaker 4>and that man right there has won four Super Bowl rings,

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Spagnolo, fresh off of a new contract to stay

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<v Speaker 4>in Kansas City. What has he done right and what

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<v Speaker 4>does some other ones need to do to do the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing Spags has done.

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<v Speaker 3>More of that coming up on the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve which

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<v Speaker 4>with you. The big news on Wednesday was that the

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine Ers fired defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes after just

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<v Speaker 4>one season, and Steve, we have had turnover at the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive coordinator spot in San Francisco because they just all

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<v Speaker 4>keep getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Head coaching jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Robert Sala who was there, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>was Demiko Ryans who picked up where Sala left off,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they bring in Steve Wilkes. What I'm curious

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<v Speaker 4>most about is you pose this question to me, and

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<v Speaker 4>now I pose it to you. If they win Super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl fifty eight and they take a Vintombardi Trophy back

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<v Speaker 4>to the Bay Area, is Steve Wilkes still the head coach,

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<v Speaker 4>still the coordinator a defensive coordinator for this team in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean, look, I am not saying this decision

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<v Speaker 2>came solely off of one game, but it would be

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<v Speaker 2>very hard to justify the firing of a defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>whose defense had been pretty good most of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it wasn't he had to measure himself up against

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Sala and Demiko Ryans. There were points a season

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<v Speaker 2>where this Niners defense was not as great or as

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<v Speaker 2>dominant as those teams, especially in the playoffs and especially against.

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<v Speaker 1>The run, where they were once impenetrable.

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<v Speaker 2>But they played a Super Bowl game where they lost

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<v Speaker 2>their best their second best defensive player in Drake green Law,

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<v Speaker 2>or their third best defensive player. Let's not forget they

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<v Speaker 2>did not have Pro Bowl safety Tallano Hufonga for almost

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<v Speaker 2>the entire season, so there was a lot of shifting

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 2>going on with this defense at points, but there also

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.440
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be some issues along the way. Remember Kyle

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Shanahan said Steve, come down from the booth and get

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>on the sideline. So Wilkes came down to the sideline

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and things seemed to turn around briefly, well I won't

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 2>say briefly. Things seemed to turn around. Something get better

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 2>from that point on. So again, there's gotta be more

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 2>to this, something that's been brewing all along. But I

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>still think if they win the Super Bowl, Steve Wilkes

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 2>would still be the defensive coordinator for the forty nine

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 2>ers because then they could take all off seas and

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>they say let's work on some of these things that

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think went quite right in twenty twenty.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Three, I think exactly right.

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 4>See this is one year and Kyle Shanahan said repeatedly

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 4>that there wasn't a lack of effort by Steve Wilks.

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Trying to make all of this work.

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 4>And when I say trying to make all of this work,

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 4>it's because it's a system that they wanted to keep

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 4>in place that has been there and built for the

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 4>personnel that they have.

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 3>It was run by Solid, was run by Demiko Rans.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 4>They didn't really have a strong in house candidate that

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 4>could have replaced Demko, And essentially you put Steve Wilks

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 4>in a position where he's running a system that wasn't

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 4>essentially one he's very familiar with, but you wanted to

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 4>keep the continuity for your team, and I understand that

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 4>as well. So maybe some more time would have actually

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.880
<v Speaker 4>helped Wilkes in a sense. But I think also being

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 4>the escapegoat can also happen at the exact same time,

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 4>because I do think we live in a world of

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 4>recency bias, and this defense was not at its best

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 4>in the most recent of games. You mentioned what happened

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 4>with them against the run during the postseason.

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 3>It didn't just fall off, it dropped off a cliff.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 9>Ye.

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean they were third in the NFL against the

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 4>run during the season, and they more than doubled that.

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 4>I think it was almost seventy yards a game. They

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 4>were giving up more during the postseason than they were

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 4>during the regular season. And you don't think Kyle Shannan

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 4>doesn't forget that those are the last several games that

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 4>they played. And then when you look at also comments

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 4>that certain players make you hear Nick bos To say

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 4>after the game, we were not prepared for Patrick.

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes to be using his legs.

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 4>That's not a great comment you want coming out of

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 4>the sal for your defensive coordinator. And the other aspect

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 4>of it is Steve Wooks is brilliant working with the

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 4>secondary and great back there. This team is built off

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 4>of its front seven. It has been for a long time,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 4>so I think there was that aspect as well. This

0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 4>seemed like a difficult decision for Kyle Shanahan, but he

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 4>said it had to be made. I'm not sure where

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 4>they go from here though.

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 4>And that's the other part that I'm I'm kind of

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 4>fascinated by with because this is very late now in

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 4>terms of making a higher.

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Daley's out there brandis Daley's out there, and he

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>comes to that from that Sean McVay Vic Fangio type

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>of system that's kind of similar to.

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>What they like to do.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, JP, let's go to the other side and not

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>a coach getting let go, but a.

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Coach being retained. Kid's hitty.

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, signed DC Steve Spagnolo to a well deserved contract extension.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>We talked to Spags on the podcast the end of

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 2>podcast while we're at super Bowl? What about Spag getting

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 2>taken care of?

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 3>I think this is just, you know, so much of this.

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, two weeks, Steve, we've been out in you know,

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>covering the Super Bowl and then out in Vegas and

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 4>it's is Andy Reid going to retire? Is Andy Reid

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 4>going to retire? Well that was solidified, right, Andy Reid's

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 4>going nowhere. And this is a big part of why

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Andy Reid's going nowhere. He literally does not have to

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 4>worry about half his football team right because he has

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Steve Spagnola running that entire defense. I mean, the faith

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.640
<v Speaker 4>and trust that this team has in that man right

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 4>there is remarkable.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, second to none.

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 4>There are guys that have told me, Steve, if Spags

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 4>isn't here, I'm not sure I want to even play

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 4>here anymore. And this is one of the best organizations

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 4>in football. That's the way that's not ant to Kansas City.

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 4>That's a feather in the cap of Steve Spagnola. When

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 4>the parade was going on during the speeches and Justin

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Reid came out and said, I hope everybody here knows

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 4>that Spag's got a contract.

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Extension this morning.

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 4>It was the roar was just as loud as it

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 4>was when Patrick Mahomes got introduced or Travis Kelcey. That's

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 4>the way everybody in Kansas City acknowledges what Spagnola can do.

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think this is only going to continue, Steve,

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 4>because these are young players that have been drafted into

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 4>this system and only continue to become more intelligent in

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 4>what he wants him to do and allows him to

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 4>make even more and more adjustments, which makes his defense.

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the other thing Steve Spagnolo likes.

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So many chiefs assistant coaches are kind of the victims,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>so to speak, of the team's success.

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Very few coaches under Andy Raid.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Have left because they're playing in so many Super Bowls.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Look at how long it took for Eric b Enemy

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 2>to have to go someplace else. Andy Reid has lost

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>very few of his assistants and that coaching continuity again

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times his teams are playing deep

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>into the playoffs. That works against some guys trying to

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 2>get coaching opportunities or coordinator opportunities because those teams with

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>vacancies tend to make the HighRes before the.

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl is played.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So that has benefited the Andy Reid and the leadership

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 2>there to be able to retain people likes bags because

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of their successes a JP. Now let's go to one

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>more defensive coordinator move, and that is down in Dallas, where,

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of course Dan Quinn, the former defensive coordinator left to

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 2>become the head coach of the Commanders, and Jerry Jones

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and Mike McCarthy go way back into the Cowboys time

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 2>machine and they bring in Mike Zimmer to be the

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator. Remember, Zimmer was a secondary coach with some

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 2>of those Super Bowl teams that Dallas had back in

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the nineties. Now he's basically back on with a head coach.

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>He's got one year to prove he needs to get

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>an extension.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 4>That's a great point. I mean, dan Quinn had this

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>defense in a good spot. Let's just I will kind

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 4>of put it that way. What led the NFL and

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 4>takeaways in twenty one and twenty two, top five scoring

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 4>defense in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. What

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>my main focus, Steve is what does Mike Zimmer come

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 4>in and do in developing a relationship with Micah Parsons

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Because I think we talked about this on the show

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 4>mid season when I had a long conversation with dan

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Quinn in the lengths that he went to find ways

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 4>for Micah Parsons to be comfortable, find ways for him

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 4>to play at the highest level possible, to find new

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 4>ways to use him in new ways for him to

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 4>be effective, and develop their relationship together. That was a

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 4>huge part of being, you know, the defensive coordinator of

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 4>a player that is so unique as Micah Parsons. I

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 4>think that's the first thing that Mike Zimmer has to

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 4>do is make sure that that's intact, because that could.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Be who knows, volatile if you will, but.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Also, it's kind of right.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 4>I am the linebacker position as well. That is a

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 4>spot that I think you want to talk about, and

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 4>that is a spot that remember we have a converted

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 4>safety playing linebacker. Now listen, there were injuries, there were

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 4>things like that, but I think Zimmer is focused on

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 4>that position. On the defensive line needs to be a

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 4>focal point as well. But I think there can't be

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 4>a drop off in the in the aspects that I mentioned,

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 4>and there needs to be maybe an increase in certain

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 4>things like penalties, which this team is one of the

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 4>more penalized defenses in football the last couple of years.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 4>How do you change that and remain aggressive? He says

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't want to, you know, remain the wheel entirely, Steve.

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 4>But what do you see Zim coming in and doing

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 4>on this defense?

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, first, the bigger, the biggest thing, and we know

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 2>this is the personalities. Dan Quinn was the dude, Like

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone you talk to in Dallas will tell you on

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>both sides of the ball that Quinn was the most

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>relatable dude on.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>That coaching staff. That's who they all kind of flowed to.

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>His energy was what they kind of trickled down and

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>built off of Mike Zimmer is not dan Quinn. Mike

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Zimmer is an old school, in your face coach. He

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>is a curmudgeon. He will tell you that, but I

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>think the players, once they kind of get beyond that,

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>understand how great of a coach he is. I have

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>been around Zim for a long time, from when he

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>was a defensive coordinator with the Falcons, when he went

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to be the DC in Cincinnati, and when he went

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to Minnesota. And the one thing you'll notice there speaking

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>about the Micah Parsons is there's always one player who

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>he gets to just dominate. It was Michael Bowley, an

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 2>outside linebacker in Atlanta who always had the most press

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the stat sheets of any player. At the end of

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the season, he goes to Cincinnati. Vontes Perfect, an inside linebacker,

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>turned out to be one of the better players.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Steelers fans don't want to hear anything about Vonte's perfect,

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>but turned out to be one of the better players

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>in that year after year.

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Then he goes to Minnesota.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 2>You guys guys like Anthony Barr, right, guys who can flex.

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>But you you talked about linebackers at second level, player

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>who can do things. And we know Zimmer is a

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>great secondary coach.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>That is his strength.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>But he likes to play a lot of that cover

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>two type coverage, So we'll see if he kind of

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>puts that in.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>To what the Cowboys like to do.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, JP, we talked about the defensive coordinators, but

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 2>coming up, we're gonna talk about some of the guys

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>coming into this year's draft.

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything. You don't know anything. We've been

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>covering the NFL. Land Zer, he.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Knows a lot and he'll be back to.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Join us next on the NFL Report.

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Three hundred of the best college football players get the

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 2>chance to showcase DERI skills in Indianapolis at the twenty

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty four NFL Scouting Combine presented by Noble Combine cover

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 2>It starts February twenty ninth.

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Right here on NFL Network.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And also, let's not forget that the NFL Draft takes

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>place in Detroit April twenty fifth through twenty seventh.

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>JP.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>And now we're joined by our draft analyst lambs On,

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>so L James and I We're gonna go Denzel Washington

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>right here, explain this to me like we're kindergarteners.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, We've been immersed in Super Bowl covers.

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>We've been immersed in the NFL's When it comes to

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 2>draft prospects, we know nothing.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and let's start with the quarterbacks.

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>And we're all assuming that Caleb Williams out of USC

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be the top pick, if the Bears hold

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the pick, or else whoever comes up to get the pick.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>What can you tell us about Caleb Williams as to

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>why he's deserving of the top spot.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 9>Well, I think with Caleb Williams, it's kind of interesting

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 9>because from a physical standpoint, he's kind of average sized,

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:08.959
<v Speaker 9>decent size.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 8>His arm talent's really really good.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 9>I think if you watch tape this year, it's a

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 9>little uneven, frankly, and it's because he tried to play

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 9>a lot of hero ball. He wasn't surrounded with a

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 9>great offensive line. He had pressure on him a lot,

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 9>and I think he developed some bad habits. But when

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 9>things are right and he's in rhythm, man, he is terrific.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 9>I mean it comes out of his hand a little differently.

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.719
<v Speaker 9>He's got the ability to make the improvisational throws as

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 9>you just saw right there.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 8>And let's face it, when you look at Pat.

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 9>Mahomes the guy who's been the most consistently excellent quarterback

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 9>outside of Tom Brady over the last several years, or

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 9>if you want to even talk about Aaron Rodgers.

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 8>Things that those two guys can do.

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 9>They've got good arm talent and they get outside of

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 9>the pocket extend to make big plays. And I think

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 9>that's what gets people the most excited about Caleb Williams.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 8>So what you've got with Kayleb Williams is a guy

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 8>who I think is going to go first. I think

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 8>he is going to go to the Bears.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 9>It'll allow them to he set that clock for rookie

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.959
<v Speaker 9>contract and really hit reset on a quarterback that they

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 9>feel like might be a better passer there in the

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 9>in the Chicago area. So of this quarterback class, you know,

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 9>is he the best player in this in this class?

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>He's the best.

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 9>I rarely have quarterback at the very top of the list.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 9>Is he the best quarterback? I think he's definitely the

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 9>best quarterback Steve, and that's that's why he's going to

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 9>go first. The upside, the potential, the background of productivity,

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 9>it really checks out checks a lot of boxes.

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Lance We had Ian Rappaport on the show earlier

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 4>this week and he kind of said similar things to

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 4>the Bears most likely staying at that number one spot.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 4>Taking Kayleb Williams is going to take a massive haul

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 4>for anybody to come up there and try to take

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 4>that number one spot away from them. And I look

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 4>at you know, Ryan Poles running the show. There was

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 4>with Patrick Mahomes for five years in Kansas City. If

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 4>anybody want to make the comp I would assume Ryan

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Poles has enough intel being with Patrick Mahomes day in

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>and day out to make a very educated opinion about

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 4>some of the comparisons we are seeing out there. What

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 4>about the system staying in Chicago? Shane Waldron comes in

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 4>disciple of McVeigh. Is this a solid fit for when

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 4>you evaluate Caleb Williams's strengths that this would be a

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 4>system he would flourish in lance.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 8>That's a great question. You know it can be if

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 8>Caleb will let it be.

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 9>And what I mean by that is, as I mentioned previously,

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 9>Caleb will take some things off.

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 8>Schedule that don't need to go off schedule.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 9>So I think it's going to be really having the

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 9>offensive coordinator drill down on this is when we extend

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 9>and take chances. This is when the ball needs to

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 9>come out to option number two or option number three,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 9>we go move on to the next play. It doesn't

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 9>have to be hero ball on the next level. And

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 9>you've got some targets over there in Chicago, and of

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 9>course they've got draft capital, they've got free agent money.

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 9>They're going to build something around Caleb Williams. And and I

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 9>think the number nine pick could easily end up being

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 9>a wide receiver as well, or they could move up

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 9>and target one of the top three wide receivers in

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 9>this draft. So I think it could be a really

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 9>good offense for him because he has the ability to

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 9>play in rhythm and the offense you're talking about the

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 9>schedule is.

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's playing on schedule, it's playing a rhythm.

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 9>It's kind of levels passing attack where you make a

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 9>simple read and then you throw a the accuracy in touch.

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 8>It could be a really great offense for Caleb Williams.

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 9>It's just a matter of will he stay inside the

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 9>structure of that offense and showed the discipline that he's

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 9>kind of lacked over the last year and a half

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 9>when he felt like he had to carry the team

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 9>because frankly, he did have to carry his team.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when we saw him in Oklahoma, though we saw

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>him play on schedule.

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was the thing.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 2>That's why I say, you know, when you talk about

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 2>him with the bad habits, just because of the USC,

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 2>he's scoring forty points a game, but he knows he

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>had to score forty.

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Eight to win. So that's when you talk about I

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know if.

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 9>We're talking to the same guy, Steve, because I had

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 9>I had somebody I was questioning some of the USC

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 9>stuff I saw, and this and this scout from hes

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 9>a personal exact now from a team that needs a quarterback, said,

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 9>if you go back to Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley, you

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 9>can see him play in schedule. Uh, you know, instructure

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 9>much more, play on schedule much more. And he raved

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 9>about the fact that. And I said, aren't you worried

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 9>about going back that far? And he said, no, I

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 9>don't think so. I mean, he said, just because he developed,

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 9>you know, he said, is it a bad habit that

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 9>he developed or is it just taking on too much?

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 9>Those are two different things. And he thinks if you

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 9>go to Oklahoma, you see what you need to see

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 9>in terms of being on time. So I think that's

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 9>a great point that you make. It isn't his background,

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 9>so he can't do it. It's just a matter of

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 9>getting him back there and trusting the guys around him.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 8>Again.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Lance, Let's let's get to some of these

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>other quarterbacks.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well we see Drake May. You know, he's who

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>some people consider the.

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Second best, but a lot of people don't know a

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 2>ton about him.

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>What about Drake May?

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 9>Big, arm, height, weight, He's got the trades right, he's

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 9>got the physical tools. He can throw it. There's some

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 9>people who want to comp from to Josh Allen. That's

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 9>who you comp a quarterback with size who's a little inaccurate.

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 9>You want to throw Theosh Allen. There's not a lot

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 9>of Josh Allen's out there. That probably one of one situation.

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 9>Cam Newton had some of the same elements those two guys,

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 9>But there's not a lot of guys like those two

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 9>guys in this league.

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 8>Now.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 9>I think when you look at Drake May when he's on,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 9>he's really really good. He can throw with accuracy, he

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 9>can throw with positioning, he can throw with the ability

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 9>to attack down the field, uh and really challenge safeties.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 9>The problem with him is he just doesn't sustain it.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 9>It's just not sustained enough. There's there's missed throws in

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 9>the middle of the field that should be point A

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 9>to point B throws, and he leaves it behind wide

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 9>receivers or he drives it over them with a you know,

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 9>with the just a gun to overthrow where he just

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 9>doesn't take anything off that fastball. He's got to learn

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 9>to play without the fastball. He's got to learn to

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 9>change up speeds and have that touch. So I think

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 9>with Drake May, I'll be honest with you, the tape

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 9>is really uneven for him, and I even question I

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 9>put it out on social media sometime in early January.

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 9>I said, after I finished Drake May, I said, I'm

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 9>trying to figure out why he's a de facto quarterback

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 9>too in the media.

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 8>And it was it wasn't a slam for him. It

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 8>was just I didn't really see it.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 9>And I took some bullets because the narrative had, you know,

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 9>come in today, this is the number two, it's it's

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 9>Caleb and then it's Drake, or maybe it's Drake and

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 9>then Caleb, and then I watched it and I said, no,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 9>it's going to be Caleb and Jaden Daniels, who I'm

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 9>sure we'll get to in a second. But I think

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 9>Drake May is one of those guys that you see

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 9>the potential, but you got to reel it in and

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 9>it may take him a year or two to develop

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 9>the habits that he needs to And really it might

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 9>be a situation like Josh Allen where you need to

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 9>get the right pieces around him that can help him

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 9>flourish despite the fact that he may never be the

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 9>most accurate quarterback.

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 7>Well.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Listen, the situation that Josh Allen walked into as well

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 4>Lance was an organization that was prepared to be patient

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 4>with them, which we do not see.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Around the NFL very often.

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 4>And with all of these evaluations on these quarterbacks, sometimes

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.240
<v Speaker 4>with each guy that might be more important than another

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 4>guy just having the time and the patience that he

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 4>could come around. I bring that up because we're gonna

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 4>mention all of these names that I believe you have.

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I don't know a little bit of a gap

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.479
<v Speaker 4>all of these quarterbacks after Caleb Williams. When I bring

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 4>this up, is I look at Josh Allen. I look

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 4>at Patrick Mahomes, I look at these guys that were

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 4>not taken right off the top, and not the first

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 4>quarterback taken like of this group. Who could be the

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 4>best out of this draft right now after Caleb Williams,

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 4>because that is a realistic possibility. We've seen quarterbacks in

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 4>seed quarterbacks draft. No.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 9>I you know, so much of it is fit. Obviously,

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 9>you look at Bryce Young and c J.

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 8>Stroud.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 9>I mean, one guy is in a bad situation. The

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 9>other guy got to a great situation. But that's not

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 9>to downplay c J.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 8>Strouds. C J. Stroud just much more special than.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 9>I thought he was, and he's every bit the talent

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:50.879
<v Speaker 9>that you see on the field and you see off

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.720
<v Speaker 9>the field. I think in this draft, Jade and Daniels

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 9>has something really unique. If he were two hundred and

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 9>twenty pounds, we'd be talking about him as the first

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 9>quarterback in this draft. He is a legiti dual pass quarterback,

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 9>a dual threat quarterback who is equally good with his

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 9>arm as he is with his legs. Most dual threat

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 9>quarterbacks are gonna slide. If you had a slide or

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 9>your slide it.

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 8>Heavier on the run side, and then there may be

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 8>a little.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 9>Bit less in terms of passers, whether it's accuracy, placement, whatever,

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 9>you know, whatever the case may be. Like in basketball,

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 9>you may have a guy who's a big time scorer

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 9>who doesn't play as well defensively. When you look at

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.720
<v Speaker 9>Jaden Daniels, this guy is obviously an outstanding runner.

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 8>He had over a thousand yards rushing.

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 9>But as a passer, he's calm outside of the pocket,

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 9>he's accurate throwing the intermediate routes, he can throw as

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 9>a scrambler and create and extend plays. There's a lot

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 9>of NFL things that Jaden Daniels does. And let's not

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 9>forget he's got five years of experience on the collegiate level.

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 9>He's learned to play football, and it's something that we

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 9>don't see often anymore. These quarterbacks sometimes are two years,

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 9>sometimes one year guys out of Dwayne Haskins was a

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 9>one year quarterback.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 8>We'll see two years every once in a while, three

0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 8>years rarely, four years in the first round.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 9>And you know, we have two guys and Bo Knicks

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 9>and Jayden Daniels, who I think, and Michael Pennix. Actually

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 9>all three of those guys. I thought they all had

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 9>really good seasons and they all took really big steps up,

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 9>steps up this year because of the natural progression of

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 9>experience at the collegiate level. So Jaydeen Daniels to me,

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 9>is gonna come out maybe with the best polish.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.439
<v Speaker 8>Of all the quarterbacks ready to play right now.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I love that. He's one of the most exciting players

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. But like you said, he's built like

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>RG three, right, He's got everything, but he's very slight.

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 8>Guy.

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to edge rusher's real quick.

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you got Latu Latu out of UCLA, Dallas Turner,

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Jared Vers, what about some of those guys, and then

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you just got the absolute specimen and Darius Robinson out

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 2>of Missouri, who was the Senior Bowl MVP.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 8>I'm so excited about the hedge rushers.

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think what's gonna happen is I think it's

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 9>I think it's gonna go and it's it's gonna flow

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 9>in different directions. It's gonna start with the low quarter

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 9>back run, then it's going to go to a wide

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 9>receiver and tackle run, and then you're gonna see the

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<v Speaker 9>edge rushers come off the board a lot too. Is

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<v Speaker 9>akin to TJ. Watt already from a from a hand

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<v Speaker 9>usage stamp. From a hand usage standpoint, yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 9>I gotta be careful. But when it comes to using

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<v Speaker 9>his hands, his understanding as a pass rusher and this

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<v Speaker 9>is a guy let me give you the background. Went

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<v Speaker 9>to University of Washington, was there a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 9>didn't play much at all because they said he had

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<v Speaker 9>a neck injury and it would end his career, so

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 9>he retired from football. Then Washington's doctor looked at him

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<v Speaker 9>and said, you know what, we think you can play,

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<v Speaker 9>but we do think you need these, you know, neck

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<v Speaker 9>exercises and there's some things you need to do, but

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<v Speaker 9>we think you're fine. He then goes to UCLA, plays

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<v Speaker 9>only two years and ends up with double digit sacks

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<v Speaker 9>in both years and completely dominated the tackles. He has

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<v Speaker 9>an unbelievable understanding with his hands of how to get

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<v Speaker 9>around tackles in a very efficient manner. He is so

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<v Speaker 9>much fun to watch because he's so polished. Now Jared Verse,

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<v Speaker 9>he is a ball of dynamite. Jared Burst can get

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<v Speaker 9>out of a stance and into tackles and ragged all

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<v Speaker 9>him around with his compact power at the point of attack,

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 9>his twitch, but also his bull rush is nasty, a

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<v Speaker 9>little birdie. A friend of his, let's just say, reached

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<v Speaker 9>out to me last year and said, Okay, he's going

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<v Speaker 9>back to school, but he wants to know what he

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<v Speaker 9>needs to work on. And I'd already written him up

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<v Speaker 9>because I thought he was going last year in the

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<v Speaker 9>first round. And I gave him a list of my

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<v Speaker 9>scouting reports what I thought were the areas of concerns

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<v Speaker 9>or areas where he needed to work on him, and

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<v Speaker 9>he worked him and he got better at him this year,

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<v Speaker 9>and I think Jared Versus is going to come into

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<v Speaker 9>the league and be an automatic w for whatever team

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<v Speaker 9>drafts him. Dallas Turner, I mean, he's got height, he's

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<v Speaker 9>got linked, he's got speed, he's got some great nick

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<v Speaker 9>sabing characteristics. In terms of his technique that he utilizes.

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<v Speaker 9>I do have questions about how he's going to stop

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<v Speaker 9>the round. I mean he's not a Will Anderson, but

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<v Speaker 9>as a rusher phenomenal talent. I saw him as a

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<v Speaker 9>freshman against Charles Cross. I mean, Charles Cross just had

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<v Speaker 9>so much trouble with him as a freshman. So these

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<v Speaker 9>edge rushers and I haven't gotten a chop Robinson and Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>But real good lance.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what's gonna have to happen because a producer saying rap.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm gonna do is we're gonna say we

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<v Speaker 1>just got it. NFL's over. I mean, I'm ready to

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>roll here, but I got hit with the rap. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you come back next week? Can you join us next week?

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<v Speaker 8>I'll be here for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna get you on next week and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit the.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get in the lab for the next two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, because I'm gonna be at the HPCU Legacy Bowl too,

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get on to black college players as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your lance, all right, so come down next.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some NFL quarterbacks you likely will be changing teams,

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<v Speaker 2>but do they have futures in the league. We'll discuss

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<v Speaker 2>it next on The NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolver Tate Fell See.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the NFL Report podcast, but you can

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the NFL Report as we close things out,

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<v Speaker 4>James Palmer, Steve, whitch with you, Steve, There's been a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of quarterback talk with lanceerline. Let's talk some guys

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<v Speaker 4>that have been in the league playing the position that

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<v Speaker 4>might be on the move as we always see a

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 4>new crop come in and they're shuffling around the league.

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<v Speaker 4>A former first rounder out of the University of Alabama,

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<v Speaker 4>fifteenth overall pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Mac Jones will be headed where Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Great question. He can't stay in New England. It just

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<v Speaker 1>did not work there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind seeing him go to

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<v Speaker 2>a team like the Minnesota Vikings, right whether they if

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 2>they resigned Kirk Cousins. That's one thing he can learn

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>under one of the best leaders. Cousins has off that Achilles.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, but if all of a sudden Kirk

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<v Speaker 2>Cousins gets paid and go somewhere else, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>someone who can develop under Kevin O'Connell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think mac Jones has played a potential. The Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>just did not do him Justice the past two seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and when you bring in a head coach and

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Drod Mayo that's been in that building on that staff

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<v Speaker 4>the previous year, there's just you just can't bring him

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<v Speaker 4>back to New England considering everything that went on in

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<v Speaker 4>that quarterback room.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at a team that was tied to him

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>How about going back up Brock Purty in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 4>because I do believe after these two seasons, Brock has

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<v Speaker 4>solidified himself to whether he should not be looking over

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<v Speaker 4>his shoulder by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>If you bring him in right the.

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<v Speaker 4>Way he played in the Super Bowl, the way he

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<v Speaker 4>played again in his second season, I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>a great spot for Mac Jones to learn to grow

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<v Speaker 4>to read.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I don't know, kindle.

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<v Speaker 4>His reputation around the NFL, and what better place to

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<v Speaker 4>do it than with Kyle Shanahan. How about number two

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<v Speaker 4>overall pick Zach will of the New York Jets. What

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<v Speaker 4>do you think is in store for mister Wilson this season?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's gonna be let go.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard Woody Johnson the Ode or just basically say

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<v Speaker 2>they had nothing at backup quarterback this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So he won't be with the Jets this year.

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<v Speaker 2>My thing is, if he wasn't the number two overall pick,

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<v Speaker 2>he might be out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll probably be in somebody's camp, you know, to compete

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<v Speaker 2>for a backup job, maybe be the number three guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but he just hasn't. He's had opportunities,

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<v Speaker 2>he just has not elevated. We can make all excuses

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<v Speaker 2>we want, but I honestly he'll He'll probably get two

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<v Speaker 2>or three shots, but I just don't even know if

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<v Speaker 2>he'll make any more than a number three for some team.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to see that real quick because I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 4>exactly the same as Henson repeating it, like, would you

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<v Speaker 4>rather have Zach Wilson or Drew Lock as your backup?

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Lock?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm taking Drew Lock.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking Drew Lock all day. Drew Lock has got

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<v Speaker 2>something to him. Even saw last year when he came in,

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<v Speaker 2>the teammates followed him. That didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that?

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<v Speaker 1>So I would take Drew Locke all day With that one,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to put that out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, real quick, only twenty seconds. Gardner minshew, our guy.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll always have a job in the NFL. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>exact opposite of what we're talking about with Zach Wilson.

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<v Speaker 4>He has a value in every quarterback room. Steve, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Gardner Mitschew.

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<v Speaker 2>He can go anywhere. The Colts I'm sure would love

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<v Speaker 2>to keep him, you know. But he's someone, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>who's always gonna have a job.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We also as a job for at least another week.

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<v Speaker 2>We do JP as Thel Report.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're here for you on podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at seven pm now and back next Tuesday, not Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Next Tuesday, I'll be in New Orleans at the HBCU

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<v Speaker 2>Legacy Mold JP. You'll be there at your beautiful home

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. You'll get the final words, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 4>And with us doing this because of the holiday on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>I get to ski on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>Very excited.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have a monster guest with Steve just to

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<v Speaker 4>tease it real quick for next week's show, make sure

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<v Speaker 4>you tune into the NFL Report or listen whatever you choose.