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Speaker 1: Welcome back to point game. Hope everyone's having a great

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Speaker 1: new year so far. Me and I haven't talked in

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking some big news that we haven't

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Speaker 1: touched yet. Of course, Trey Young to the Wizards. Also

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Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder and Luca beef happening the other night. Would

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Speaker 1: And then we saw on Instagram a big trip to

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Speaker 1: just excited to get back to this point game. We're

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Speaker 1: back here at twenty twenty six. It first of all,

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Speaker 1: how is your holidays? How's your New Year's Let's catch

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Speaker 1: up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Holidays was good, Man's just spending time with the family,

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Speaker 2: which is most important, seeing family that you don't see

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Speaker 2: all the time as well. And then the new year

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Speaker 2: has been good. Just busy with the kids stuff, family

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Speaker 2: things as usual. As you know, my oldest is in

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Speaker 2: high school, so he's been having high school basketball games.

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Speaker 2: It's been going pretty well. Then I coached my youngest

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a full it's a full time grind

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Speaker 2: on my head. And then we got our young seven

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Speaker 2: year old daughter. They just started basketball this last weekend,

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Speaker 2: so wow, you know, it's a it's a it's it's

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Speaker 2: a full full court press in the Thomas home.

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Speaker 1: You're you're a dad, a trainer, a coach.

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Speaker 3: Today you're a teen.

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Speaker 2: I'm still trying to play. It's like and I still

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Speaker 2: got to work on my game too, So you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's it's a full time thing.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: I see those those five am, six am staying ready

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: And and also to the parent stuff, it's it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: People are like all the holidays are here and I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, man, daycare is closed, schools like, that's when

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Speaker 1: you you have to parents have to work harder in

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 2: You got you don't got the little time you have

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Speaker 2: when you got to school. You got the school hours.

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Speaker 2: You got a few hours to yourself.

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Speaker 4: You know that break is like they they ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 4: So I was I was living in a.

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Speaker 2: was it was definitely a good time. I'm happy the

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm looking forward to that time when you

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Speaker 1: can combine hanging with your kids and also being in

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Speaker 1: That's that's I was like, Oh, let's let's go hang out,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm taking my son to the Harlem Globetrotters,

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Speaker 2: So see, look, I can't wait till our Sonics come back,

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Speaker 2: so then I can take my kids. That would be

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Speaker 4: You know, we need our Sonics back in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be involved with that team and summer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good, gotta be gotta be okay.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk about it. I mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 1: You just got back from an awesome trip from what

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Speaker 1: it looked like on on Instagram to the Dominican Republic.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what were you over there? For give us

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Speaker 1: some highlights, like it just looked really cool, so we

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Speaker 4: Man, it was an amazing experience.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, shout out to my one of my

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Speaker 2: He had renovated a whole baseball park, baseball field. I

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Speaker 2: It was like the dopest thing that I've seen. Like, obviously,

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Speaker 4: It was it was the experience of a lifetime, Like

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Speaker 2: Then to just see like who the guys He brought

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Speaker 2: the Major League, Superstar Flat, Laddie Guerrera, Tatis, they had

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Speaker 2: So it was it was a packed house. And then

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Speaker 2: to my guy Julio, it was a dope experience.

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Speaker 4: I got to make it an annual thing to go

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Speaker 2: I got to take my kids out there next time

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Speaker 2: to see that in a different culture, to see that

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Speaker 4: So it was, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was definitely a Cooper super cool moment, not only

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Speaker 4: So shout out, Julio.

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Speaker 1: That's dope. I mean, that's just like a really cool

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Speaker 1: You give back to the game, You get back to

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Speaker 2: So much like it made me feel like a kid

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Speaker 2: like for them kids to interact high five those superstar

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Speaker 2: if that, I know that changed one kid's life. I

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Speaker 2: of like dang, I can really be he came from

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first NBA player you've saw in

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Speaker 2: Nate McMillan, my first time laying Nate McMillan, who is

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Speaker 2: I think he's ten plus years in the NBA Blazers

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Speaker 2: So then when I when I leave the game, I

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Speaker 4: So like I always.

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Speaker 2: Remember that that like that like changed everything for me.

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Speaker 2: And then it just made things happen down the line

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Speaker 4: But that was the start of it for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Okay, one more question about the trip. Did

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Speaker 1: did you get up to bad at all?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm not gonna hears too many cameras right there.

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Speaker 2: I know they wanted me to. They was begging me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is y'all's field. I'm gonna keep it

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Speaker 2: come here to see me. Yeah, so maybe next time.

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Speaker 2: But that was the first time I had a bat

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Speaker 2: no pride. I'm gonna always just be like, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna do what's best for the people watching it.

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Speaker 4: They didn't want to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to wait for the hooping event.

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Speaker 4: That's when you know what I'm saying. I was live

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Speaker 4: and direct with the Hovid event for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about big news that happened in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Super curious because we talk about all the point guards

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Speaker 1: in the you know, in the league, and a big,

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Speaker 1: big shift, big trade happened Trey Young of the Wizards.

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Speaker 1: Of course, for CJ McCollum, Corky Kittspurg what you what

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Speaker 1: Trey got moved. That was another name. We were all

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Speaker 1: Nothing has happened yet, but the Memphis Grizzlies have opened

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a superstar. So it's like, go

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Speaker 2: You can give up Wiggins contract. You got Mitchell over there.

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Speaker 2: that would be a good choice. It would be night

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Speaker 2: and day in terms of the structure there, the Miami

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a little too much structure,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to on the next hopefully he's not

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Speaker 1: He's not like a Yannis right, who's won a championship

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Speaker 3: He's not that tight yet, but his potential is crazy.

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Speaker 4: And he's still John Morant young day.

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Speaker 2: No matter the stupid stuff he's done, no matter like

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Speaker 1: So I think you had said with like the trade

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Speaker 1: He's still he's a good player, you know, another piece

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Speaker 1: Would be he got a big contract, And I think

437
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: Brooklyn would be because you know, playing in the same town,

438
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 1: same vicinity as the next New York.

439
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 4: Get a superstar player market, he got his own shoe.

440
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 4: It's like all of that lines up. So that was

441
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 4: a good one. CJ I. I didn't even think about it.

442
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: We gotta watch, we gotta watch.

443
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 3: That's that's one hunch, that's for sure.

444
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 4: And they probably got draft picks and all that.

445
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel like they've been just saving up.

446
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: They've been saving up, and that's the move to me,

447
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 1: that's the move right there. If not it or maybe

448
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: Yannis they talked about Jannis to Brooklyn the yannest stuff,

449
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: because he actually just said, and I don't believe it.

450
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: You can tell me if there's moves like this that

451
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: you know when you're leaking stuff to the media. When

452
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: you see it, Yannis said, I'll never ask for a trade.

453
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 4: Come on, look, we did the same thing.

454
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: It's like when you got to say those things, something

455
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: in there is true, like something you've asked for, something

456
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 2: you put it on the table that if things don't change, man,

457
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm looking to get at something in there on those

458
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: reports are true for you to have to come out

459
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: and say that. So obviously, I've been in the league

460
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: a while, Like I get it, Like you don't want

461
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: to be the bad guy, but something's going on behind

462
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 2: the scenes where you have to come out and say

463
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: you would never ask for a trade.

464
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 4: It's like, it's all good.

465
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: You're not going to be in Milwaukee that much longer, buddy,

466
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: and we all know that, so it's all good. All right.

467
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another guy who got traded last season

468
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: to the Lakers, Luca don che Cheu. The Lakers, it

469
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of petered out a little bit there, the hot

470
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: start there. They've had some struggles, but they did get

471
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: a win over the Kings. A couple of weeks or

472
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 1: what was it a few games ago? But what had

473
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: happened that the story just came out? And I'm curious

474
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: of your take on a couple of angles here him

475
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: and Schroeder were beefing Shrewder, who I as a Lakers

476
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: fan and anyone who watches basketball, note Shrewd's a dog,

477
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: but he's an interesting fella because he apparently the story,

478
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: just to recap it, came out. I think Chris Haynes

479
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: reported that he attempted to strike a player. So this

480
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 1: was after the game they were talking. I think there

481
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: was some leaked audio that Luca was just like, this

482
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: is why they passed or kind of made fun of

483
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: him for passing up that that offer that the Lakers

484
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: had in which was a good chunk of change, you know,

485
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't happen. They brought him back or whatever. Still didn't

486
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 1: get that that nice offer. Lucas said something. And then

487
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: it was later on in the I guess in the

488
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: locker room or or just on the way to the cars,

489
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: that that Shrewder got got in his face or something

490
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: had to be broken up. So what I think Shrewder

491
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: got suspended, fined or whatever. I think two hundred grand

492
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: or something like that. What do you think about all this?

493
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: Is that beef real?

494
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: Like, what do you know about Dennison?

495
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 5: What do you know?

496
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: I guess even as Luca the trash talker, Like what's

497
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: your take?

498
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: I don't know because it can go back years.

499
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: Like you know, they are foreign, so they have been

500
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: playing probably against each other, you know, in the Olympics

501
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: or all those tournaments that they have overseas. You just

502
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: never know because for somebody for it to say it

503
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: happened forty to forty five minutes after the game, it

504
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: had to be serious if you're still that mad after them, right,

505
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: because usually guys be mad in the heat of the battle.

506
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna say you're a little two cents.

507
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 4: He gonna say his.

508
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: The guy's gonna be like, man, meet me in the back.

509
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna say all that. Then when you get in

510
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: the back, there's no action that ever really happens.

511
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's real. They're not really gonna do nothing here.

512
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: So for that to happen, though, either somebody hit somebody

513
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: below the belt in terms of saying some words that

514
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: were just not right talking about money, got or they

515
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: got previous beef to where it's like more personal than basketball.

516
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: So I'll be trying to put myself in everybody's shoes

517
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: in terms of not like trying to jump the gun.

518
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: But it's like for you to do that, it's some It.

519
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: Had to be really personal for whatever happened that long

520
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: after the game. So with my interaction with Schroeder, I've

521
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: never I've never seen that side of that. So we've

522
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: got into it a few times, you know, battling, just competing,

523
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: talking hoop stuff, get a little physical, and then I

524
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: was the aggressor and there was no problems. And I'm

525
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: not even saying it like I'm the toughest guy around.

526
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that incident happened with us to where

527
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: we go to the back and there was none of that.

528
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: And I'm not even like I said, I'm not saying

529
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: it like I'm the big bad wolf. I'm just saying

530
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: it like from my experience with me and Schroder, we've

531
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: got into it like that and it was nothing in

532
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: the back. So for that to happen, yeah, some must

533
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: have been saying slick. I seen Luca was over there

534
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: talking underneath his breath, so he probably said something that

535
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: you know that that really hurt the soul or he

536
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: said some personal So you know, maybe I can maybe

537
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: I can tap into my sources and get get some

538
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: more information and then our next pod, I might have

539
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: something that, you know, groundbreaking news for you.

540
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: CJ.

541
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 3: Well, and I just want to kind of like cement here.

542
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: The rules of trash talking and even like to the

543
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: point of fighting in the league is like, you keep

544
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: it basketball, it's probably just gonna be you guys get

545
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: in each other's face, it's gonna get broken up regardless,

546
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, but when you start talking about non

547
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: basketball stuff, that's when it's like it could get tested

548
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: some fish.

549
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: What I always say, bro, because like I told you,

550
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm one of the greatest, Like I'm one of the

551
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: top dogs when it comes to trash talking. I just

552
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: I grew up watching Gary Payton going to the SIGNUS

553
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: games like so like that's what I've always done my

554
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: whole life. One thing I always say, I'm like, keep

555
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: it hooped, Like let's talk hoop stuff throughout.

556
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: The whole game.

557
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm fine with doing that. But once we get it

558
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: somewhere other than who like that's off limits, bro, Like,

559
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: don't talk nothing about no family don't talk nothing about

560
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, are we just gonna take

561
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: it there. And more times than not, more guys don't

562
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: want to take it there because they're just not built

563
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: like that, they're not cut like that.

564
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: So like it. There's some words where it's just a

565
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: no go. You know the B word. You're not doing

566
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 4: that one.

567
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: That's one one we're not tolerating at all. So that's

568
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: when guys say, and that's just meet me in the back, bro,

569
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: since we don't go there, Since we're gonna go.

570
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: There, we're talking hoop stuff, and you want to take

571
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: it there. So we're just gonna meet in the back

572
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: and talk like me.

573
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: And because that's a place you shouldn't take it unless

574
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: you really don't like nobody. If you don't like nobody,

575
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: that be worth it's coming out of my mouth quick.

576
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: That's just trash talking. It don't it don't matter. But

577
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: if it's just hoop stuff, it's like made the best

578
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: man win man. Let's let's continue to talk all game.

579
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Don't talk when you're up, don't talk when you're having

580
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: a good game. Let's talk from the beginning to the

581
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: end and see where it takes us. And then and

582
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: then and then now now we go to the locker

583
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: room and we're good, like I ain't tripping, you ain't tripping.

584
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: Well, what I hated here is and maybe we don't

585
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: know all the details, but uh, Shruder was the only

586
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: one who got fun.

587
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: He got fined three hundred thousand. I think he got

588
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: a couple of a few games.

589
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: But like got three games. So that's what I'm saying.

590
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: It had to be something to where because there's been

591
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: interactions in the in the back hallway like that's happened.

592
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: That's that's not saying it's normal, but it happens, especially

593
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: like playoff time and stuff. But you're never getting suspended

594
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: for just people breaking things up or being in the

595
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: middle of something. So it had to be he threw

596
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: something at him, he tried to swing or or or

597
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: or run out. It had to be something closer to

598
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: some physical stuff for somebody to get suspended and nobody

599
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: really see what was going on, and obviously the other

600
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: than the people that was there. So I'm I'm kind

601
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: of excited to see what's going on. I'm gonna hit

602
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: my sources, CJ. I'm gonna hit my sources and see

603
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: if I can find out really what what what what happened?

604
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: What happened?

605
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: On an idea, I'm gonna hit my sacramental sources and

606
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: my Laker sources. Just look at that, because there's gonna

607
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: be two sides to it, but we'll just take the

608
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: middle ground once we find out what happened.

609
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: Well, and I think Luca has become this trash talker.

610
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: I've never actually seen him fight, And so to me,

611
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: do you consider that basketball IQ, when you know you're

612
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: you're John, you're trash talking and you're the one who's

613
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: coming out on top because sension.

614
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: You're doing something to where it's hurting their soul.

615
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're doing. But he's definitely a

616
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: trash talker and he's he might be in them.

617
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Know is that that's tough for them to not even

618
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: get into like a physical altercation in the game, because

619
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't think in the game they got into like

620
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: where somebody hard fouled each other. Yeah, it was really

621
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: just talking back and forth. So just from my experience,

622
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: there could be some some past stuff that's happened before.

623
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: All Right, hit those sources, keep listening. We're gonna we're

624
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna get the info. The real info from someone who's

625
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: played in Sacramento and Los Angeles. We're gonna get it

626
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: from I t here on the Platt. All right, we're

627
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna take another break and we're gonna come back. We're

628
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna talk referees, Bill Kennedy his injury, and then also

629
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a no days off from Isaiah Thomas talking.

630
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: About who who should, Who deserves love out there.

631
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: And get their flowers. We'll be back on Point game.

632
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: All right, It's time for our DraftKings segment, Isaiah. Through

633
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: thirty eight games.

634
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,600
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635
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,280
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636
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: they're at ten and twenty eight.

637
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: So do you think they do it?

638
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: I do think they do it.

639
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't think they want to do it, but I

640
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: think they get to twenty. I think they you got

641
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: some games left and they won ten already. I think

642
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: they get to twenty.

643
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400
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Speaker 1: All right, we're back here on Point Game.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: We don't usually talk about injuries because it's a sad

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00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: part of the game here, but we did want to

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Speaker 1: show us some love and talk about Bill Kennedy, who

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00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: people who watch the game they might know him because

665
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: he puts on performances during the reviews.

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00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 5: After reviewing the play, the added bounds that was called

667
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: was called correctly due to the fact that there was

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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: no illegal contact by the defender, resulting in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Ball at mid court.

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Speaker 5: The coach's challenge is unsuccessful.

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Speaker 4: Can he do audio books?

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00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: He's like really playful and all that stuff. So he

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00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: actually I think it tore hamstring and he's out a bunch.

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00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: But Isaiah, you've been you played in the league, you

675
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: know you've been close. Like how grueling of a job

676
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: is being a referee because like they got to keep

677
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: they got to run up and down the court with

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Speaker 1: you guys. So I feel like people don't know the

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00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: reality of what it's like to be a referee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the hardest jobs in the world, one

681
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: of the hardest jobs in the world. Obviously, while you're playing,

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00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: you don't like none of the refs because you feel

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00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: like they against you. But you got to give the

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Speaker 2: respect to what they do and their craft, their professionals,

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Speaker 2: So shout.

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Speaker 4: Out to them.

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00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: And then like you said, you got to be in shape.

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00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: You're that's a long game, forty eight minute game, up

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00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: and down. You're running too, So it's it's all respect

690
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: to the refs. Man, they got a tough they got

691
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: one of the toughest jobs in sports. But not only that,

692
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: like it's a super grind for them. They're traveling, they

693
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: got back to backs, like so they got a real,

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00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: real players schedule for sure. So shout out to all

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00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: the refs, especially the NBA refs Bill Kennedy. He's on

696
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: the injury reserve right now, so he got to be

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00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: on his slow grind and getting back. He got to

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00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: get his hamstring right, So shout out to Bill Kennedy,

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00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: one of the best refs in the game for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was obviously a name like and obviously there's

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00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: refs like Scott Foster, who we just saw the other

702
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: he ejected Jason Kidd for doing Jason Kidd things, you know,

703
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: like what was so I guess you know, there was

704
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: obviously like the Chris Paul versus Scott Foster. Anytime we

705
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: see like a Scott Foster ref in game six, it's like, oh,

706
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: we're getting a game seven. What what are some of

707
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: your like top ref conspiracy theories or what's your like

708
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: overall relationship. You know, obviously you say you respect them

709
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: and you show love, but like, what's your what's been

710
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: your personal relationship with a lot of NBA referees over

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00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: the years?

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Speaker 2: Man, over the years, Like when I'm not playing, they

713
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: love me, Like when I see them in the when

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Speaker 2: I see them in the streets or see them interacting

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Speaker 2: like they be coming up to me.

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Speaker 4: But when it's in the game, it's not that. It's

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Speaker 4: not like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know for what reason. I know, I get

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00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: technicals every now and then, I and I and I

720
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: talk my shit every now and then, so I definitely

721
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: understand that. But there's only a few refs that like.

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Speaker 2: Tony Brothers is one that gave me probably most of

723
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: my technicals. I think he's ejected me every time I've

724
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: been ejected, so I don't know if he has something

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Speaker 2: out for me. But Tony Brothers is one that we

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00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: just don't. We don't see eye to eye, obviously, you

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00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: said Scott Foster. There's a lot of guys in the

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00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: league that don't see eye to eye with Scott Foster.

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Speaker 2: But there's also some really good refs too. Not saying

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Speaker 2: those guys aren't good reps. We just had our interactions

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00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: that haven't been so good, so not to put anything

732
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Speaker 2: negative out there against those refs, but there are some

733
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: really good reps. Big Kevin, I forgot his last name,

734
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Speaker 2: He's a good rev. Zach Zarba is a good ref.

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Speaker 2: Like you do build those relationships with refs throughout this,

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Speaker 2: throughout the years of you playing, because at the end

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00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: of the day, like you need those guys to be

738
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: on your side, not saying like they're gonna help you

739
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: out here and there, but like you need those guys

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Speaker 2: to be you need to be cordial with those guys

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00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: because it's a respect factor more more times than not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool that the good refs you almost never

743
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: hear about because.

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Speaker 4: You ain't gonna hear about the good ones.

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Speaker 2: But there are some really good ones that they really

746
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: have good conversation before the games, be action about your family,

747
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: things like that. So shout out to the good reps.

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00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: The ones that are you know, excuse my language, that

749
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: are assholes and they know who they are. It's like,

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Speaker 2: you ain't gotta be like that, man, you don't.

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00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: Is there anything? Is there any sort of strategy?

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Speaker 1: And I guess it's not for like a player like you,

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00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: but like maybe even like Rashid Wallace back in the

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: day or like Draymond now, like Hey, I'm gonna go

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: over and say hello to the ref before this game

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00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe they're gonna call the game a little

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Speaker 1: bit more of my favorite or look away A couple

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Speaker 1: of times.

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Speaker 4: You I mean you think that.

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Speaker 2: But for those two guys, hell no, those names are

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Speaker 2: see Wallace, Jerymond Green.

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Speaker 4: It don't matter. You could be giving these refs Christmas presents, Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Cards, you could be doing all of that. They don't

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Speaker 2: like them too at all. Nah, there's certain guys that

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00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: the refs ain't messing with, and you know who those

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Speaker 2: guys are.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I've I've read some stuff about Rashid and

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: stuff like where I genuinely go, man, that ref did

769
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't like him and maybe did you know sway some games.

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Speaker 1: So obviously that's a whole other thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: When you think about it, guys are here human.

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Speaker 2: The reps are human too, so they got there's real beef,

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: there's personal beef, there's all of that.

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Speaker 4: Obviously they it shouldn't be. Reps are human, they got

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Speaker 4: real feelings.

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Speaker 2: There's some things said on the court to the reps

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Speaker 2: that are unacceptable, and you understand why reps have a

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00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: quick trigger at times.

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Speaker 1: There's this other guy who actually came up the other

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Speaker 1: night in the press conference, Tarry Easton and actually it's

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Speaker 1: a lead up into our no days off here, who

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Speaker 1: has just been going off and is actually I feel

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Speaker 1: like he's ahead of like Lebron and All Star voting,

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00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: so I think the people are starting to know about him,

785
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: at least internationally. But the other night he actually scored,

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00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: he scored thirteen or fifteen from the line and Tari

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00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: Easton you know, said it to Zebras, you know, send

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00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: them on the line. So our no days off for

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Speaker 1: today is for this episode is Denny Avgia. Apologies if

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00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: I didn't get his last name right. He's got to

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00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: be more of He's going to become more of a

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00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: household name, and I promise to respect and get that

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Speaker 1: name right. But Denny is our no days off. What

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: are you thinking about Denny?

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00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: Denny? Shout out to Denny, Bro. He's been hooping.

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00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: No matter how good or bad the Portland TRAILVI Lazers been,

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00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: he's been a positive light in their season. And I

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: think Denny's averaging up like twenty six points a game,

799
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: so man, he's doing his thing, So shout out to him.

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Speaker 4: Bro. Keep doing it.

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: Like he's on the verge of obviously being in consideration

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00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: for All Star. But when you're in that role, you

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: got to kind of win a little more. But like

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00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: I told you earlier for a guy, a defensive guy

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00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: in Tari Easton, which is a Seattle native. Shout out

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00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: to tari I rock with all my Washington guys, So

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00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: shout out to Big. Shout out to him. He's having

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: a good season as well. But to any of the

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: top defenders in the league, when they go to the

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00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: media and say a guy is getting helped by refs,

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Speaker 2: that's when you know you're one of them good offensive players.

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00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: That's when you know that's a defensive guy giving you

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00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: your respect, even though it doesn't sound like it.

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00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: He's throwing shade a little bit saying you're getting help

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Speaker 4: from the refs.

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Speaker 2: Every defensive guy who says that about the offensive guy,

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00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: that offensive guy is somewhat someone that's really good and

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00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: it gets a call here and there just because offensively

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00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: he's on that level. So, you know, shout out to Denny.

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Speaker 2: I'm winning our no days off for this week. Keep

821
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: doing your things, stay on your slow grind. You know,

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00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: I might have to pop out to a Blazers game

823
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: just to see it in real life in real time. Also,

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00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: shout out to Tarry east and keep doing your thing, bro,

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00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: But you can't.

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Speaker 4: We got to give him as flowers.

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Speaker 1: He did his thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he might have got a few calls on you,

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00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: but you know, to each his own, bro, it's all uh.

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Speaker 1: Well, Denny had the perfect response, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: James Harden had this, SJA has it, but like he was,

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Speaker 1: like it made me laugh when when Tari said it,

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00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: because Denny said, he drives the most in the league.

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00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: He's very physical, he doesn't shy away from contact. He

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00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: is that guy who he benefits from the from the

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00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: bump when he drives, you know, so of course he's

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: going to get those calls. Of course going to go

838
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: to the line. So I just love it's part of

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00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: his game. And I think now the whole league's about

840
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: to know it. You know, he's gonna be an All

841
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Star and he's gonna go the line. He's gonna get

842
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: his buckets there. He's his buckets any any way he

843
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: wants to.

844
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: So just like just like vice versus defensive guys, they

845
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: don't call all the fouls on those type of guys,

846
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: even though they could be obvious fouls. But if you're

847
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: one of the top defenders, they kind of give you

848
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: that every now and then.

849
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: So you know, to each his own. Both sides of

850
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: the floor. Shout out to both guys, but shout out

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 4: to our no days off winterer Denny.

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00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: Keep doing that, shout out, Denny. Okay, this is the

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00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: end of point game. It's the first st episode of

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00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, so I did want to part on

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00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: this episode. I want to ask you it give me

856
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions before we go.

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00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: New Year's resolutions.

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Speaker 2: Man, My new Year's resolution for twenty twenty six is

859
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Speaker 2: it's just be a better, better overall person.

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00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: Be a better, better husband, better father.

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Speaker 2: Like I know that sounds so cliche, but I just

862
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: as I get older, like I want to be a

863
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: better son than my parents. Like I want to just

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Speaker 2: be better in any aspect. I know that, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: that sounds cliche, but like I just want to I

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Speaker 2: want to do right, do better, being a great like

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Speaker 2: positive energy, positive space throughout the whole year. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's ups and downs throughout the whole year. So I

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Speaker 2: want to be able to control what I can. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know talk my shit on the podcast, man, Like

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Speaker 2: I want to be able to, you know, make make

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Speaker 2: sure this is bigger and better than anything out there. Man,

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Speaker 2: so obviously I'm gonna stay on my slow grind on

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Speaker 2: and off the court. If any of the teams is watching, Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm still ready. Ten days is starting soon, so you know,

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Speaker 2: you never know, Man, signed me to a ten day

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Speaker 2: I can help out, but overall, I want to be

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Speaker 2: better at everything, man, I want to be I want

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Speaker 2: to be locked in in life, bro, and just just

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Speaker 2: help out others. Man, put smiles on people's faces and

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Speaker 2: make a real impact. Bro, what about yourself? What about yourself?

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Speaker 4: CJ?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: It you know, it always goes back to being a

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Speaker 1: you know, a good father and good husband. I think

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Speaker 1: for that to me, it means I got to be

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Speaker 1: more present. You know. I'm like, of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: a addicted to to the work, trying to be better,

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Speaker 1: you know, as an employee, as a founder, and like

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Speaker 1: you know, doing stuff in this in this media game.

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Speaker 1: But it is like, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: my kids don't care about that, my wife doesn't care

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Speaker 1: about that. Of course, it can lead to like paying

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Speaker 1: bills easier and all that stuff, but my kid's only

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Speaker 1: gonna My kids are only going to be three and

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Speaker 1: and you know, little babies for so long, you know that,

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Speaker 1: so I just gotta I gotta remember life ain't happening

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Speaker 1: on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Life is not happening, you know, watching TV.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: So even the like physical I'm trying to I'm getting

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Speaker 3: I've been in the gym. That's what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: I brought up earlier. I saw your your Instagram stories.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's in the gym. I'm gonna get in

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Speaker 1: the gym. My workout is different, but it's good.

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Speaker 4: It's all the same, man, It's all the same when

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Speaker 4: you really think about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so getting better just like you.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we appreciate you everyone listening to this.

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Speaker 1: Uh just heating up here on Point Game and we're

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Speaker 1: you guys tapping with us on social. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: here next week with another episode of Point Game.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.