1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. And I know you probably 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: can't see us, but Rachel, where are you right now? 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Because it's a step up from the typical closet scene 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: that we always sit in. I am so I've talked. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've talked about it on this podcast, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: but I've said before that I'm going to be back 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: and forth between La and Miami. So I'm finally in 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: my LA apartment. It's got completely done yet, So for 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: those of you who may be watching us, don't judge 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: me quite yet. It's I totally feel like I'm in 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: a hotel, but it feels really good to be here. 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know, are you big on visualization and manifestation, 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm about to go down this Yes, no, I am. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: I am so, I am too. And I've always wanted 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: a place in La, like even if I'm writing, because 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. But I've always been too fearful 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: to make the jump, to make the leap. I always 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: put a bunch of excuses. So the fact that I'm 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: actually here now and I have a place, it just 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: internally means so much to me because I've always said, 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: even before the batch I'm like, I thought about taking 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: the California bar Exam and coming out here. I have 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: close friends here, and I was like, you know what, 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. So to be here now it's 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: just kind of fulfilling. M it feels right probably, Yeah, 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure in a sense, it's like you're, you know, 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: crossing another thing off the bucket list. Well, like I said, 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: for our listeners, they can't obviously see um, but Rachel 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: has this like lovely set up with this cute little 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: purple what does that call? Like an ottoman? And I 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: am is that? I guess I'm sure that you without 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: knocking off the computer, I had like a couple of 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: things set up. Can you see? Oh that's Rachel. That's 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: way more than I thought. It's like complete. I don't 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: have a couch yet and I have a hangings, but yeah, 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: like this is the beauty of doing from a distance 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: because I'm just like shift that there and shift that there, 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, so I'm just a perfect I'm like, I 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: can't show you everything. Yeah, no, I get it. I 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: cannot wait to come visit. I uh, you know, it's 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: you need to get back up to California, so I'll 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: be crashing on the couch whenever you get that come on. 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: So in the meantime, we have another exciting episode for 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: you guys, and you know, recently between Rachel and I, 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: but also it's our guests, we've been talking a lot 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: about what the franchise means to us. You know, how 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: long we've been watching, or why we started watching, what 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: got us hooked in the first place. And one thing 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: that you know, and this is something that I've always 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: answered when people ask, like, what's one of your favorite 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: things that came from, you know, both being on the 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelor and besides finding love and being able 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: to travel and have this really unique experience, is I 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: think the sisterhood and the special bonds that you form 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: with the women that you either live in the mansion 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: with and that travel for two months with, but also 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the women too from other seasons, like Rachel, I didn't 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: know you. We weren't on any of the same seasons 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: together and it wasn't in until after I was bachelorret 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: that I met you. And that goes for a lot 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: of the other female contestants and leads who have been 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: on the show. And I think that's something that you know, 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: even though it is a reality TV show, and there's 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: of course the drama, and there's the people that show 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: up that aren't always there for the right reasons, but 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: there's still those women that come on that want to 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: hopefully find love but also form really strong bonds and 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: friendships with the other women. And so that's something that 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: before I left for the season of The Bachelor, I 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: sat down and I talked to my mom about because 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: she didn't want me to go on the show in 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: the first place. She was like, it's gonna be caddie 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: and drama filled. And the fact that I could carry 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: on these lasting friendships with these amazing women is something 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: truly truly special. And besides having them be really fun 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: to watch, you know, they've just become your friends. And 77 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: that's I think the best part of the franchise for me. Absolutely. 78 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I think it's something that you underestimate. And my mom 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: was like your mom, like, oh no, and even my friends, 80 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: which is kind of like, are you sure that's what 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of. It can be 82 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: so catty, but and there are catty people, Let's just 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: be honest. There are a lot of people that are 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: trauma filled, but with the leads, it's just it's like 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: all this one big community because you all go through 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: something together. But with the leads, it's a different experience, 87 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: and so you have another level of sisterhood that bonds 88 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: you together. And so I remember coming into the fifteen 89 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: year reunion and I was a little apprehensive about it, 90 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: and I've shared that before, but I was so eager 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: to meet the ones from the beginning, you know, like 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: I hate to stay older because the funny thing is 93 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm the same age as them. So Al was on 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: what nine ten seasons before me, and we're the exact 95 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: same age. So it's like, I'm like, I'm not going 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: to stay older, but I'm just more the ones who 97 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: are more seasoned, who take away from us, and I 98 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: just wanted to know what their experience was like with 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: no social media and millions and millions, you know, like 100 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: thirty twenty billion people watching the show and So's it's 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: really been an honor to be a part of such 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: a great batch of incredible women who've been on the 103 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: show over the years. And you're really, really right, We're 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: just so blessed to call them friends, to call them sisters, 105 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: and that's something that I never thought would come about 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: with the show, and I feel like this is this 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: is great what we're doing today because we're kind of 108 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: really on point because right now there's this whole women 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: supporting women, women empowerment, women, women challenge thing that's going on. 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: So I feel like we're taking that from social media 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: and implementing it into our show show today. And I 112 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: think that a lot of the Bachelor Nation fans have 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of waken up a bit, but the rarity is 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: it they're awake to a lot of bachelors have been 115 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: awakened to what this whole franchise really is and what 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: and whose shoulders we stand on. And that's what I'm 117 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: enjoying most from the Bachelor Greatest seasons ever was because 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: it is shining a light on some of the more 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: season seasons and we're just able to celebrate these women 120 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: who have paid this way for us. And I think 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity for the newer fans and even 122 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: some of the people like myself who just never even 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: watched the show before, to really see these incredible women, 124 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: to see how they handled these men, how they navigate 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: at their journey. Because I think the newer seasons that 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: some of that is getting lost in the dramatization of 127 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: the show. So oh yeah. But what's also so great 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: is what these women have done off the screen. I mean, 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean to brag, but let's just be honest. 130 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: The women have come off and done way more than 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: the men have. The bachelorettes have really paved the way 132 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: outside of this franchise more than the men. Hat I'm 133 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: just saying, and I'm not even talking about the success 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: in their relationships and just talking about the success and 135 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: what they've done professionally. We really have some Moss women 136 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: on this show, and there's just such an inspiration, they said, 137 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: such a good example, not just for upcoming basturettes, not 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: just for contestants on the show, but just for women 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: in general. And so I really think that it's so 140 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: important to have that mindset as you're watching these greatest 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: seasons ever. We have them come on our podcast or 142 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: maybe you follow them on social media. They're just great 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: role models in general. Yeah, oh a thousand percent. And 144 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: what I found even last week when we were talking 145 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: with the Common Family and we had Emily, who was 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: a few years younger than I am, and one of 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: the things that she said is a twenty four year 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: old is that you know, yes, the drama will hook 149 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: them and it's entertaining, but she watches the show for 150 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: having like strong, badass females to look up to and 151 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: to take note from. And I think that that's something 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: so important in this day and age, as we really 153 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: need to build women up and support them and and 154 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, hold people accountable when we can. And so 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: even hearing fans and other folks from the show say that, 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: I think that's those are the types of conversation that 157 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear going on. And so if we 158 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: can keep spreading that positivity with women, you know, younger 159 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: or older, if they just started watching the show, if 160 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: they've watched it for years, continue that because I think 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: that's the best part. And with that, oh wait, can 162 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: I just say this, I think you're so true. You 163 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: have the nail on the head when you said and 164 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: holding each other accountable. I think that sometimes when you 165 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: get caught up in these movements, if you people think 166 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: women supporting women means you have to support every single 167 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: thing that they do. But if you have a good 168 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: friend or a sister or someone like that, so when 169 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: you care about, wouldn't you check them or maybe hold 170 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: them accountable, as you said, if they're doing something that 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: maybe you think isn't in their best interests. And I 172 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: think that that is a part of this women's supporting 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: women who don't blindly support people you know, or just 174 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: do it in a grant in a general way. I 175 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: think it's so important that we hold each other accountable 176 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: for certain things, because that's what you do. Like as friends, 177 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: you should be able to talk to each other and 178 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: tell each other anything. Anyways, I'm so as you said that, 179 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: because it's so yeah, no, and we get a lot 180 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: of flags sometimes like you're not supporting women. How dare 181 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: you say that? No, it's first of all, as an 182 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: opinionated podcast, right, you don't have to agree with my opinions. 183 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't have to agree with yours. Let's just generate 184 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: open conversation, and that's what we have. But it doesn't 185 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: mean that we knock women. And I think we do 186 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: a lot of supporting women on this show. And so 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: that's why I'm glad for That's why I'm glad for 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,479 Speaker 1: what we're doing today because I really think our podcast 189 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: is about that. We don't get caught up in the 190 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: daily gossip or reporting you know, who broke up with who, 191 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: or this person's arguing with this person. We really don't 192 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I think like two percent of 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: our show is about that. We try to rise above 194 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: it and have conversations that are moving forward and highlighting 195 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: bigger issues. So yeah, I love that. Well, that's a 196 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: great segue I guess into what we have just I 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: guess to announce our guests, because we don't just have 198 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: one today. We have to and we're putting enough fun 199 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: little twist on it. So if anyone, hopefully everyone out there, 200 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, I know there's not a lot going on 201 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: in the world to day with you know, we're still 202 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: in the semi shutdown quarantine. But if you're keeping up 203 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: with the greatest seasons of all time, you obviously saw 204 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: Brad Walmack season and recap last week and you probably 205 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: fell in love with one of our guests. I know 206 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: I did when I met her during the fifteen year 207 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: reunion with all of us ladies last year. She's just 208 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the absolute sweetest, cutest person. She's one girl that we 209 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: don't talk a ton just because our friendship, I would say, 210 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: is blossoming and it's a little bit newer. But when 211 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: I talked to her on the phone, she's just like 212 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: this funny firecracker. I felt like the last time I 213 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: hopped on the phone with her, I was supposed to 214 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: be a quick call before an interview interview that we're 215 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: going to do, and we ended up talking for way 216 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: longer than I expected, And I'm like, this is like, 217 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: that's the kind of people I want in my life, 218 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: where you just let the time go and just it's 219 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: just enjoyable. So we are going to be having Dianna 220 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: Stagliano on here. She I Field recall, is the one. 221 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Brad during his first season didn't pick either 222 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: one of the girls, but she was one of the 223 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: final two. So she's gonna be on. And then you 224 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: guys have probably heard me say, obviously we're having two guests, 225 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: so we are actually going to surprise Dianna with a 226 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: pop in from Molly Mesnick, who is another amazing lady 227 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: from the franchise and one that I've gotten to know. 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, I've met her a few times while I 229 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: was on tour, and I've gotten to know her and 230 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Jason a little bit more, and so I can't wait 231 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: to have them both on and just have a really fun, 232 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: empowering women conversation. And I am so excited for this one. 233 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: I am too. I've only met Gosh, I guess I've 234 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: only met them both once, Dianna and I was went 235 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: through union, But I've talked to Dianna since, so I 236 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: feel like I've met her a whole bunch of times. 237 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: Like a little tidbit whenever we're whenever we discussing something 238 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: in The Bachelor at group chat, I always side text Dianna. 239 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: Really yes, I'm always like, did you see that girl? 240 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: I love her so much, and she's so funny stuff, 241 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: so funny, She's a firecracker. She's just like my kind 242 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: of girl. And Molly was the absolute sweetest and she 243 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: brought her daughter and of course Jason to the mansion 244 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: when we were filming the fifteen Year Begunion. I guess 245 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: they were in town for something, and I just thought 246 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: that was so nice, and she fit right in. She 247 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: might as well have stood up there with us, you 248 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: know what I mean. When I'll go back were staying there, 249 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: she might as well have been there. So I'm I'm 250 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: excited to talk to them both. They both have such 251 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: different perspectives when it comes to this franchise, I mean 252 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Molly especially. It's funny because and maybe this is just 253 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: in general with the world, we're all revisionists, but I 254 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: feel like invastur Nation, it's even it's even more of 255 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: a title that our fans wear, like they will recreate 256 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: how they feel a value and forget how they were 257 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: in the moment, which I guess can be a gift 258 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: and a curse. And so with Molly, it's very interesting 259 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: because of the whole term pulling a mesnic and that situation. 260 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: And I'm just curious to know if they were hated 261 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: on as opposed to now they're revered as one of 262 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: the top, you know, couples in bastur Nation. And then 263 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: Dianna with that brad Man. Brad might be the most 264 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: handsome bachelor's to me, so I gotta know, we gotta food. 265 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: I think that's why he got it twice, because he's 266 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: so freaking good looking. It isn't for his personality, no offense, 267 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: but I mean he's probably easy to give all with 268 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: and easy to look at. So let's let's given a go. 269 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: I Rangel, Honestly, I don't even know if Diana knows 270 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: what happened in that situation, honestly, like she I think 271 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: to this and we'll get her on. We have to 272 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: pick her brain about it. But to this day, she's like, 273 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell went wrong that day, 274 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: So buddy, it's it's not It's funny now again recreating 275 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: history here. I'm sure it was awful at the time. 276 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you, though, because wait, did 277 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you watch Brad season? First of all, did you watch 278 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: either one of them? I watched a second one, so 279 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: I did not see the first one. My college roommate 280 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: freshman year got me hooked because she was a longtime 281 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Bachelorette fan, and so she got me hooked on Brad's 282 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: second season. But I didn't watch the whole thing. I 283 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: only made it through like the last three or four episodes. 284 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: But I do remember watching and it was so clear 285 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: to me as like this eighteen nineteen year old girl. 286 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I was like, he's into Emily, Like she's the one, 287 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: like she like game over for everyone else, people can 288 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: go home. And that was my first time ever watching 289 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: the show, and I just remember he ended up picking 290 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Emily that season. Obviously, you know, things didn't work out 291 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: for them, but it was so clear to me. Yeah 292 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't watch it, but knowing Emily, I 293 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: get it right. I mean, not nothing against the other 294 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: girls or anything like that. But it's funny because as 295 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: as revered as Brad may be because of his physical features, 296 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: he's not well liked by certain people, particularly our dear friend, 297 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Grandma Honey, who was not being a fan a whole Brad. 298 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like she's not alone in that. That's 299 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: probably the majority. It's like, you had this twice and 300 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: you messed it up. So I do have a question 301 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 1: for you, because, just in the spirit of Brad womat, 302 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: if you could give a second go around to a 303 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: former bachelor and a former bachelorette, who would it be? Why? 304 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well, okay bachelorette. I would say Andy Dorfman. 305 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: That's a well. And it's hard because mode I mean, 306 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Hannah and Andy. I think. I don't want this to 307 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: sound terrible, but I'm just I think they're the only 308 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: two single ones. And if I'm wrong, our fans will 309 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: call me out, So please let me know. Um, but 310 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Andy's was, you know, a few years ago, so I 311 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I would like to see 312 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: her again. Her season was entertaining. I loved when she 313 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: was on one Populo season and called him out when 314 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: she sent herself home, like that was the moment where 315 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I was I think like that was the moment where 316 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this girl is such 317 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: a badass. And um, so I would love to see 318 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Andy again. Bachelor's Rachel, I don't know. Well, it's hard, Um, 319 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you go first, you go first. Well, I would agree 320 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: with you on Andy one. I think it's great when 321 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: they I know Brad got back to back, but that 322 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: might have been what hurt him in the end. You 323 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: just need to step away and then come back because 324 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: it almost, I don't know, like it takes you up 325 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: a level. And like Andie's been out, she's written two books, 326 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: she's done her thing. You know, she's I feel like 327 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: she would come in and take the show up a level, 328 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: Like her standards would be so high, she'd be high 329 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: maintenance coming in, she'd tell people off, she'd be like, 330 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, she'd be in the dating room. And she 331 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: wrote a freaking book about her adventures being single and 332 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: dating in New York City. So it's like, come on, guys, 333 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: stop that. So I just think it would be very 334 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: fun to watch her guys, because I didn't watch a 335 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: lot of faster seasons before me. I would go with 336 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Nick because why not? He's been on like four times? 337 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Why not give him a fifth go around? I think 338 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: whether you hate him or are you like him? When this? 339 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: And I know maybe I'm biased because I was on 340 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: his season, but I thought the women that were on 341 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: the season were very entertaining and part of that is 342 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: attributed to the lead and how he handles them. So 343 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, you might not like Nick or you might 344 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: love him, but it was still an entertaining season to me, 345 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: And so why not, like, let's just go on fifth time, 346 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: sixth time, seven? Just keep it moving. Also, I don't know, 347 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what would you know my Bachelor's and I 348 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: least single or not exactly. I was just gonna say, 349 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: I obviously know the Bachelor. It's much better because we 350 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: talk and we're in a group chat and we kind 351 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: of know where people are at in life. The Bachelors 352 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: it's harder, you know, I know more of the recent 353 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: ones because I've had the opportunity to meet them. I 354 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of the more seasoned ones. I guess. 355 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean I started watching during Brad Womack season, and 356 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: so I can't really name any before that. The only one, 357 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: and this is I don't want this to sound bad 358 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: because he is in such a beautiful relationship and I 359 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: love his fiancee, but I you know, I love Ben 360 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: like he's like a brother. We did the tour together, 361 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: and so if anyone, if he was single, which he's not, 362 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: he's planning a wedding, but if he was, he would 363 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: be one to me that I would I would root 364 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: for and want to go on again to find love 365 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: and to find the best partnership for him. But that 366 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: being said, I love Jessica so much, you know, I'd 367 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: better be added to the wedding. Ben, if you're listening, love, 368 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: he'd better. I'll be a flower girl if you need one. 369 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: What I'll cut the I'll pass out cake for you guys, 370 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: whatever you need. Um. But yeah, there, And I've gotten 371 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: to know just a lot more from the tour two 372 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: and they just they compliment each other so well. They 373 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: keep it to their ground did They're just fun, loving, 374 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: the most probably the most supportive, one of the most 375 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: supportive couples I've ever had the opportunity to witness. And so, yeah, 376 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know why said Ben because he's obviously taken. Yeah, 377 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: but I get why you said it because that's the 378 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: season that I watched when I was packing and started 379 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: crying to the girls who signed me up and said 380 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: I could never be on this show, like legitimately, and 381 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I've already said the contract. This show 382 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: isn't for me. I don't fit in here that and 383 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: now look at look at me, now, look at me now. 384 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Apparently something that I didn't. But I can see why 385 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: you would pick Ben because Ben what I loved so 386 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: much about his season and I didn't finish it, but 387 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: I loved how he navigated each relationship with the women 388 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: every single time. I mean, I remember thinking, Wow, you know, 389 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: I hope my Bachelor is that in tune with each relationship. 390 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: He made it feel like it was just him and 391 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: that girl, even though there were twenty months other ones 392 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: in the house. I love that his sincerity came through 393 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: the screen. For me, I thought you were been Syle, 394 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: but you know that's neither here nor there. Well, apparently 395 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: hold one dating Lucy Hale so I don't you know, 396 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: I just like you said, you know maybe, and I 397 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: think it would be too soon. I think like people 398 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: need to come out of the show, have some downtime, 399 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: kind of navigate where they want to be living, what 400 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: they want to be doing after this because life changes 401 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: so much. And so yeah, I think I mean Colon 402 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: season was just what two years ago, and so to 403 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: take some time to take a little breather. All right, Well, Rachel, 404 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: we've obviously been rambling. I feel like we could just 405 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: talk forever, but it is time to have our guest on. 406 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: We love her so much. She is so freaking adorable 407 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: and like we both said, I think we both called 408 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: her firecracker in the best way. So please welcome former 409 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: Batchelrette Dianna Stagliano. Everybody. Oh, I'll take Firecracker. Oh we have. 410 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: That's why I laughed when Becca is like, we've been rambling, 411 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like if we could go on and on, 412 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, then bring on the person that 413 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: we could go on and on. And yeah, I told 414 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: Becca before you came on. I love just side text you. 415 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: I just in a group chat. I'm just like, Dianna, think, 416 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: what's Rachel, I like died that day that you text 417 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: me separately. I went straight down with Stephen and I 418 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: was like, my new favorite person is Rachel because I 419 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: think she gets me at my core, Like she just 420 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: gets me. She just gets me. Oh, Michael, now I'm 421 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: thinking it's about me. You guys know about you. It's no. Yeah, 422 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: she's got my sense of humor. I was like, yeah. 423 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm reading her right now and I 424 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: want her to know I get her. The best, though, 425 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: is in that group chat because there's so many of us, 426 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like half the time I'll just leave 427 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: my phone and come back to like one hundred and 428 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: seven missed messages, and then of course you have to 429 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: like scroll up to the top and go through it 430 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: a Dana. I don't know what it is, but you 431 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: always like leave these good, like little one liners in there, 432 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: and if I'm not like really paying attention, I'm like 433 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: I have to like go back and be like, oh 434 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, you just said this, Like you said, I 435 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: don't remember what the meme was like the other day 436 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: about Boas or something. Whatever it was was, Yeah, it's 437 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: at yeah one about the mask you have to wear 438 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: a mask. It was something about people complaining about not 439 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: we'll have to find that again, but not wearing a mask. 440 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it's the worst. I can't breathe, it's 441 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the worst. I'm like, well, I wear a bra every day, 442 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: and if I didn't, you'd be upset, not me, because 443 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: I've had two children and nurse two children per year, 444 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: so nobody wants to see that. But I still wear 445 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: thinking of that, how are you? I am currently living 446 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: the dream. I can't tell you where I am, but 447 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: when I'm looking up, I'm staring at a crystal blue 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: ocean and fresh sun and sailboats. I'm doing really well. 449 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: That sounds terrible if you're listening to this podcast. Everybody 450 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: close their eyes and Let'siana explain that again, and I'll 451 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: just look out and I'm like, I can see the 452 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean floor. It's all. And I imagine 453 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: myself like laying out with a crisp blast of chardonnay 454 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and the pool boy coming and saying, missus stag Leana, 455 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: what kind of get for you? And I'm like, just 456 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: anything there and look pretty. I think people think you 457 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I live in Miami and that's the life I'm always living. 458 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've think my polls three times. I 459 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: could see the water every day from my balcony and 460 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm probably inside most of the time, you know. So 461 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: it's it's different from wherever you are to being in Miami. 462 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: Look in the States, there's so there's a difference there. Also, 463 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: people think we live in southern California and we're at 464 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: the beach every day and my children are well behaved, 465 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: but most of the time in off the wall. Adjust 466 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: your expectations, people, please, Yes, parenthoods I do not have 467 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: a nanny, and I'm the personal chef, I'm the home 468 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: school teacher, I'm the cleaning lady. I'm also the wife, 469 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: a jack of all trades. She's doing it all. You're 470 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: a superwoman. Um no, Danna, We've had some phone conversations 471 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: about obviously both of our experiences while we're on the show. 472 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: They were vastly different for a number of reasons, and 473 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of recapped what went down obviously 474 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: when you were on Brad season didn't end up choosing anyone, 475 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: and then told Rachel, I'm like, I want her on 476 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: to get her take on it, because to this day 477 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: and from what I've heard, from you is like you 478 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: did not see that coming. You would know, like to 479 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: this day, you're so like, what the hell happened? Right? Yeah? 480 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: I cannot say this enough, Like it's the number one 481 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Well I don't know. It's either the number one question 482 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: or people say why did you choose that guy in 483 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: your season? And I'm like both questions, I have no answer. 484 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: I was outside my own body. Yeah. So the situation 485 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: with Brad, the hard part is is like, well, you 486 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: two know this. Viewers see a certain thing, but they 487 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: don't know what happens off camera, and they don't know 488 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: the things that Brad has said to me. So I 489 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: try to lay it out there so that everybody knows 490 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: and understands how I mean, truly confused I was. But 491 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: with that being said, I had like, come on, like 492 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the situation. I'm like, I'm super thankful 493 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: for his decision. Had he chosen me, I may have 494 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: never gone on to be the bachelorette and then ultimately 495 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: have probably not met Stephen and have these two beautiful 496 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: kids that I just like, you know, so I am 497 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: a firm believer in like his plan, you know what 498 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm a Christian and I believe that 499 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: His better is better than my better because I chosen 500 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: what I really wanted for me. Good miss as a 501 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: true mess, but like I am a Christian woman and 502 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: I believe that like God had his plan for me, 503 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: and ultimately I had to go through all of that. 504 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: Not dismissing the pure mind blown confusion that I went through, 505 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: but like I had to go through all of that 506 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: to be ready for for where I am now. I 507 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: have a beautiful marriage, and I have a wonderful husband, 508 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: and I have two really awesome, happy, healthy kids. And 509 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: it's to look back and be like, oh man, I 510 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: was so sad. Yeah, I was so like I'm really 511 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: happy now. Yeah, yeah, I was a story. Yeah, sure, 512 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: I'll let sorry beca. I just want to say this 513 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: one quote that I love when people say it because 514 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: I feel like it applies to me too. And it's 515 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: something that you were saying, Diana when they say we 516 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: make plans and God laughs. Yeah, it's a story, story 517 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: of my life, you know, like all this toughs of 518 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: beat's gonna go this way and this way and this way, 519 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: and can you imagine if it had gone that way? 520 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: Because how unhappy and what I miss we all would 521 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: be oh yeah, oh my god, and Rachel like I 522 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: am a planner, like down to down to the day. 523 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: Like Stephen texts me this morning, I was like, who's 524 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: with the kids to borrow? And I was like, you 525 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: are so lucky that I have things organized, know everything 526 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: you know. And and also I would say, like thirteen 527 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: years ago when I was on the Bachelor, like that 528 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: was probably the most vulnerable in my life that I 529 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: had ever been, you know, aside from where I am 530 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: now in my marriage, because I think that's a beautiful 531 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: thing about marriage is you hopefully learn to become one. 532 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about that is, like Stephen can 533 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: see me vulnerable and cry, which I would never in 534 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: a million years allow anyone to do that. I will 535 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: never forget being sent home in a limo from Brad's 536 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: season and they kept trying to get me to cry. 537 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know how foss are. And I 538 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: had this one like dragon tier like my life twenty 539 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: five year old face because I devastated. The one man 540 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: that I trusted most during this situation betrayed me and 541 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: he didn't have to. He could have thrown me a 542 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: bone and the things that he said to me off 543 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: camera led me to believe now I'm gonna lay it out. 544 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this, right, I no longer want Brad 545 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: wall Mack Praise the Lord. But they allowed me to 546 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: stay the night with Brad the night before the final ceremony. 547 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: What camera four shut? Of course me for sure? Oh yeah, 548 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: did I say why? We filmed the whole day and 549 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: then once everything shut down, producers came over and they said, hey, 550 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: Brad would like to see you if you would like 551 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: to stay the night, would be happy to take you 552 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: over there, but this is up to you. And I 553 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: was like absolutely, like yeah, I was saying, I love 554 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I want to. So I stayed the 555 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: night with Brad, and it honestly was really cool because 556 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: we just kind of hung out. We let we like 557 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: watched the news and he was like laying on the 558 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: couch and at his head in my lap and I 559 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: was just kind of like rubbing his hair as a 560 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: normal couple would do. And then we shut off the 561 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: TV and he was like, you know, what do you 562 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: think about all this? And I was like, honestly, I 563 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: was a little skeptical coming into it, but like I genuinely, 564 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: like have real feelings for you, and if anything, I 565 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: am a brutally honest human being and I still am 566 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: to this day. And so I said, I have been 567 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: one hundred percent honest with you about everything that I 568 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: feel currently and this entire situation. And he was like, 569 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: that's so great. He was like, what do you think 570 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: is going to happen when this is all done? And 571 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: I was like, well, ultimately, I hope that we can 572 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: have a relationship, but we can build some faith and 573 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: some trust on that and he was like me too, 574 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: me too. And then the next day when my handler 575 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: came to pick me up, he walked me out holding 576 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: my hand, right, I mean, after we smith the night together, 577 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't need to tell you what happened, 578 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: but he kissed me and he said I'll see you 579 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow and I said, oh my god, don't remind me. 580 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: And he said, don't worry, it's going to be a 581 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: good day. Oh okay, okay, no, God, I am not 582 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: messing that up. That is exactly what happened. And if 583 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't think Brad would even deny that. As a 584 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: matter of fact, on Sunday, that was the first time 585 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: that I ever heard him address that when he said, 586 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I absolutely wish I hadn't done that. I led her 587 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. I don't know if he was 588 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: just caught up in the moment, I don't really know, 589 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: or like, if he knew he wasn't going to choose anyone, 590 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: why even have me come over and stay tonight? Like right, 591 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the type of man that needs 592 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: a woman's comfort, you know what I'm saying, But that 593 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: you never believe you. I mean, I said quite a 594 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: bit of off camera time with Brad see at that back. 595 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: If I was you, I'd be like, what does my 596 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: ring look like? Here's the dress that I'm going to 597 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: be wearing. Can't wait? Like, oh oh my god, guy, 598 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: it was such a mind pudge. And you know what 599 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, it was a mind fuck. You know, yes, 600 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: it was a fuck. I have never been so confused 601 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: in my life. So I obviously go home thinking like, 602 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: oh my god. He practically just told me it's me. 603 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's me. And I walked into that 604 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: final ros ceremony thinking like I never truly believed that 605 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: it was Jenny, Although I love Jenny. We hung out 606 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: off camera, and I think she is delightful and she 607 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: is at her core a really good person, and she's 608 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: super duper happy and she's a cheerleader, which is complete 609 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: opposite of me. So I early enjoyed my time around her. 610 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: She was just like tobally and happy all the time. 611 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: But we are two totally different people, and I couldn't 612 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: help but think, like, if it's her, I felt solid 613 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: with that because we are so different. But if it's me, 614 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, like I really was true to who I 615 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: was the entire time, and so once all of that happened, 616 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: going into the final ros ceremony, I ninety nine and 617 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: a half percent felt solid walking into that. Well, I mean, 618 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: why would not. It sounds like Brad can hang out 619 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: with some other people from the show that couldn't always 620 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: make up their minds too, But I can't, like especially, 621 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, I just I can relate to that because 622 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: I think when I was on R season, Lauren and 623 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: I were so different, and so yeah, you kind of 624 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: are like, you know, it's going to be telling of 625 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: who he wants, what direction he's going to go, if 626 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: it's true, and you know, and so yeah, I get 627 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: that that is really shitty though, did he I want 628 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: to know, so, like, after he ended things, did you 629 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: know that he ended things with both of you? Or 630 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: was it not until the finale that you saw him? No, 631 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: both of you. Yeah, I knew that he sent Jenny home. 632 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember if it played that way, but when 633 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: we did them what was supposed to be the proposal, 634 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: he told me. He said straight up that he sent 635 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Jenny home. And I think at that point, if I 636 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: remember you can see my eyes light up. I'm like, 637 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, here it comes. Actually at the time, 638 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: I think we used a different a different jeweler. But yeah, 639 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: he told me he sent Jenny home, So I obviously 640 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: am like, oh this is this, yeah, right, tell ending 641 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: you know? So I knew he sent Jenny home. The 642 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: difference is is that Jenny did not know that he 643 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: sent me home. So when the show rapped, Jenny went 644 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: home feeling at peace with knowing that he chose me, yeah, 645 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: because he said I need something more Like she thought 646 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: that full time that he sent her home and chose 647 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: me like she at the after the final rows and 648 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: we were filming that, they showed each of us the 649 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: final episode and then they let Jenny come into my 650 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: green room and she was sobbing, and she was like, 651 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: this whole time, I thought that he chose you. I 652 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: thought that you two were living your happily ever after. 653 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: And she said, I can't believe that he broke your 654 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: heart and did this to you. More so that I 655 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: lived with that for four plus months. When I came home, 656 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: I didn't tell anyone because I was so baffled and 657 00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: so confused, with no answers whatsoever. I only told my 658 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: sister and I only told my aunt. Those are the 659 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: only two people knew that knew because I truly wanted 660 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: everyone to be as confused as I was, and I 661 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: love surprises still to this day. I love surprises, and 662 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: as confused as I was, I wanted everyone to feel 663 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: those emotions because that's the place I sat in for 664 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: four and a half months. And I mean minus like 665 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: like death and grief like that was truly the hardest 666 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: thing that I ever went through. Wow, Okay, like so 667 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: many things to say one they'll make them like you anymore, 668 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: because I don't know if I would have told people, 669 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: but my gosh, I mean, this is this is what 670 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: I love about these conversations. And I'm so and Becca 671 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: and I were talking about this or so thankful we're 672 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: revisiting these other seasons because this was a world for 673 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: social media is what it is. There's no way that 674 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: would have been a secret. There's no way we wouldn't 675 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: have known something, and we may have been surprised at 676 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: the end, we may not have been surprised. So that's 677 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: one thing I think of it too. I'm listening to 678 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: it and I'm just I feel what like what you 679 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: felt then, just hearing you describe it, and I'm just 680 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: thinking of, Wow, look how far you've come when you 681 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: talk about your life now and how happily married you are, 682 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: and your wonderful husband and your wonderful, healthy, beautiful kids. 683 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: Your kids are so cute, by the way, I'll say 684 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: it so you don't have to They are super cute. 685 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're pretty freaking cute. I love that 686 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: they're a doormar. They're like catalog kids, and yeah, you 687 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: should put them and you should put them into something. 688 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: But just to see what you have now, but to 689 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: know the heartbreak you have. It's like we were saying, 690 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: how you guys, especially at the beginning. I mean, yes, 691 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: all the women are, but just I don't know, I'm biased. 692 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: Especially the women at the beginning are such great examples 693 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: of strong power for women. It's like listening to your story. 694 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: All our listeners are baster happy. Our listeners listen to 695 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: this like you may be coming out of this type 696 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: of relationship. You might be in it right now where 697 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: you're so confused. It shouldn't be this confusing. So you know, like, 698 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: I feel like they should take your stories, Diana and 699 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: know that you can come out of it and things 700 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: can be so much better. It just might not be 701 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: on the timing that you want. Well, I can like, 702 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: all right right now, true, that's what listening to it. 703 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm period right now. So there's what I always say 704 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: this because I think you guys know this well. Well, 705 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: here's one of the perks about being on the show 706 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: so long ago. I am actually like tearing up a 707 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: little bit. Thank you so much. This is more Okay, 708 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: here it comes. Oh my god, I'm sorry. It's don't 709 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: cry because I'm gonna start I'm gonna start crying. I 710 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: am not crying. I'm a messing. It happens. Oh, here's 711 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing. There are two things right there is 712 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: a piece of me who is very thankful about being 713 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: on the show. So long ago, before you girls women, 714 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: there was a non issue like I didn't have in 715 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: touch or photographers like hiding in my bushes in noon 716 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: and Georgia thirteen years ago, you know, so I didn't 717 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have to go through the same like trials 718 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: and tri relationship people like tearing every piece of my 719 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: relationships apart because they're just It just wasn't that way 720 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: back when I was on the show. So I could 721 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: go on the show, and I could come home and 722 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: grieve and mourn with the people that I love most, 723 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: and no one was tearing me apart along the way. 724 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: So I have so much sympathy for you guys, or 725 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: for current bachelors and bachelorettes who go on the show 726 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: and have to be very conscious of every step that 727 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: they're taking along the way because someone is always looking 728 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: at them and following them and willing to take a 729 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: video and submit it somewhere. I didn't have to experience 730 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: any of that. The other piece of me that finds 731 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: so much comfort is in all of this. And I 732 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: imagine you get so many more dms than I do. 733 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: But like people will message me all the time and 734 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, I so want to find 735 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: that person to share my life with, and I so admire, 736 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, a good marriage and all of these things. 737 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: Do you have any advice? And here's the thing. Had 738 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: I met Stephen thirteen years ago, I was a mess, 739 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: and I was in my mid twenties. I was self entitled, 740 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: like after being on the Bachelor, and I was like, Oh, 741 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: everybody needs to be worthy of meys on national television, 742 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, And that is so beyond me at my 743 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: core to be like that, and I just was. I 744 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: was very selfish in that time in my life, and 745 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: I would have never been prepared mentally, physically, anything for 746 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: for a really incredible marriage, you know. So one thing 747 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: I pride myself in is that I never settled. I 748 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: very well could have. I mean, you guys know this 749 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: at least twenty five times, but I never ever settled. 750 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted something really, really great, and I 751 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: also just wasn't ready for it. I was in a 752 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: selfish time in my life, and once I became the 753 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: Bachelorette and went through the show, I just really thought 754 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: that everyone should bound out to me. And how stupid 755 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: is that, you know? So it was a very humbling 756 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: process after going through the Bachelor, a very humbling and 757 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: confusing process, and then being the bachelorette getting the time 758 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: to be selfish and travel the world and be on 759 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: television shows and host and live the dream and make 760 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: money like hosting stupid parties at clubs, like he does 761 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: that so stupid, But I did, you know? And then 762 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: I met Stephen, and had he met me at twenty six, 763 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: her marriage would never last. And I'm not saying our 764 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: marriage is perfect. We had definitely weathered some serious storms 765 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: and I am so thankful to be where we are 766 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: now to think like we have come out the other side. 767 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: But that's the beautiful thing about marriage is like all 768 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: to we are committed to each other and committed to 769 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: our family and making things work, and that's down deep 770 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: below the dirt of it all, as well as on 771 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: the top side when things are really really wonderful. And 772 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: I think that's a beautiful thing that I never ever 773 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: found that before Stephen, like to where I felt like 774 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: at a partner that would fight for us. Yeah, And 775 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: so you know, looking back at it all, it's been 776 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: really fun to watch it. But I'm also like, thank god, 777 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: like blessed Stephen, I'm a lucky one. Really, I am. Well. 778 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: I love listening do you say all that, because I mean, 779 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: it's so well spoken, but it's your story and I 780 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: think though even though that is your story and kind 781 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: of how your life has you know, paved this way 782 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: for you and your children now like no one, you know, 783 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: we all have an idea of where we want to 784 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: be in life, and we never know where it's going 785 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: to go. And the fact that you this is why 786 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: I love doing these recaps and watching seasons that I 787 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: never started, you know, I never had watched and tell 788 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was a freshman in college. It's we 789 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: you know, all going to talk to you and other 790 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: women who have gone through similar things, who women watching 791 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: the show now we're even just listening to this podcast 792 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: can relate to. And that's something that's really special. And 793 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, I have to say, like I don't think 794 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: head you know, COVID ben spread and had quarantine been 795 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: putting place in the shutdown, like we wouldn't be doing 796 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: these recaps. We wouldn't have the opportunity to be having 797 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: this conversation. And that's a really special thing. And I 798 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: want to go back to something you said earlier, as 799 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: you said his plan is bigger and better than my plan, 800 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: and that I just want people to really take that 801 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: in and realize, like you know, you can be a 802 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: planner and have what you want in life to happen, 803 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,479 Speaker 1: and it's always gonna get what's shaken up a little 804 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: bit at certain times. And so I love, I love 805 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: that we can have you on and get your taken 806 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: and hear you now because it seems like you've just 807 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: grown tremendously since you were on thank god season yeah yeah, one. 808 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: Though I do the show, ye oh god, it's like 809 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: where would where would we all be have we settled 810 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: with that guy from you know in Noon and Georgia probably, 811 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: And I love to get this take from you know, 812 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: like from I hate season seasons. That's what we like 813 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: to say now because like I'm the same age as 814 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: you guys say, I'm like, yeah, older, that's me, and 815 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: I came in around like twelve seasons later or whatever. Um. Anyways, 816 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: when you watch The Bachelorette, now, what do you think 817 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: of it versus between when you were on it versus now? 818 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: All right, if I'm getting my honest opinion, which either 819 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: of you would expect anything less out of me. Um, 820 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: I have a hard time watching the show now. I 821 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: really have enjoyed the Bachelor Goat like seeing the old 822 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: seasons read air, because I think there is something really 823 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: beautiful about the fact that we were all on and 824 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: by we, I mean me, Trista Jin, you know, Meredith 825 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: and some of the other guys. We were on before 826 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: social media was a thing, and I think that social 827 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: media has changed the show and the way that it works. 828 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: And by that I mean it is so hard to 829 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: tell who is coming on to sell gummy bear hairs 830 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: and teeth Whitner versus who really is there for the 831 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: right reasons, you know, like these night winners can go 832 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: home and sell so much teeth Whitner, they don't have 833 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 1: to have a real job. Yeah. I have so enjoyed 834 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: watching the show played back and see some of the 835 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: older cast on because it just felt so genuine to me. 836 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm just that naive, because 837 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: I am quite gullible, but like I truly went on 838 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: for the right reasons. People find it so silly when 839 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: I say I didn't take a paycheck. I don't know 840 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: if I'm just stupid or as the bachelorette. Yeah, yeah, 841 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: what not get a paycheck? They definitely helped me out 842 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: because obviously six months of my time I had to 843 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: pay my mortgage, right, I owned man at home in Georgia, 844 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: and just some other small bills, but it was ministry 845 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: really yeah, like thousand bucks a month. Yeah, but that's 846 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I joke around about like being stupid, 847 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: but also like I genuinely went on the show for 848 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 1: the right reasons and I still to this day, thirteen 849 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: years later, so really solid in that I didn't go 850 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: on for a paycheck or to become famous or any 851 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: of those things. And luckily I've had some really great 852 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: opportunities landed my lap along the way, which are awesome 853 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: and fun. But I also have a real life and 854 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: I have a real job, and like I feel really 855 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: good in that. Yeah. So the show is just so 856 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: different nowadays. And I remember having a conversation with a 857 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: contestant who had been on several episodes of Bachelor, the Bachelorette, 858 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: probably Bachelor Pad and Bachelor in Paradise, and and I 859 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: was the Bachelorette, Like at one point in time, I 860 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: was most desired woman in America build that right, yes, 861 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: But I remember having a conversation with this young woman 862 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: and again I was probably eight years older than her, 863 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: and she was like, well, what am I supposed to 864 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: do now? It's not like I can get a real job. 865 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: And I'm standing there like, I have a real job. 866 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: Why can't you have a real job. Well, I'm just 867 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: so famous. And I was like I wanted to just 868 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: shaker by the shoulders and be like, honey, it's cool, 869 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: take the opportunities. You absolutely should, but like, you need 870 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: a job, you need a path, and you need a 871 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: career because one day, in the blip of all of this, 872 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: no one's going to know who the fuck you were. 873 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: But even then, this is what I tell people, and 874 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: I am glad that I come from this world. I 875 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: didn't watch the show before saying I wouldn't have known 876 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: anybody walking down the street. I didn't even know who 877 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: Jojo was, and she lived in the same city as me, 878 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, So it wasn't until I got in this world. 879 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: And I think what people need to realize coming in 880 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: on the show is most of the world has no 881 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,959 Speaker 1: idea who you are. Majority they don't. That's your nation. 882 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: Makes you feel like everybody knows you, they don't, So 883 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: it is hard to break through that bachelor bubble or 884 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: reality TV and to become something else. I'm not saying 885 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: you can't, it's just the odds are against you, just 886 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: like the odds are against you to find your perfect 887 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: person on this show. It's just you gotta be realistic 888 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: about things. Nobody knows who you are. That's the mentality 889 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: you need to have coming in and coming out. And 890 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: also there's something really good about like humbling yourself and 891 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: knowing who you are, Like, yeah, you have this great opportunity, 892 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 1: but like eventually you got to go back to real life, 893 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, what else? What else will you do? 894 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: You have to be known for something else when you're 895 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: sixty and you're a boot or hanging to your knee 896 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: and you're trying to drink your glass of wine and 897 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: more on the patio, Like, no one's gonna give a 898 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: graph that you were the bachelorette. This is what people 899 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: need to hear. I love this um. Also, you know what, Okay, 900 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: we always talk about the bachelortte Bible that we share 901 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: with all the women. You know, we talked about it 902 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: with Claire like this is why we need to send 903 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: it to everyone, starting with Trista, to to get your 904 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: take because it's so important. It's so different than you 905 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 1: know what. I'm sure Rachel and I went through UM. Dianna. 906 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 1: I love this conversation. I know that you mentioned you 907 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: love surprises, so we actually do have a surprise for 908 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 1: you today that we chos to get into UM because 909 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: we have a surprise guest joining us today because she 910 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: loves you and we love you so much. Bad Oh, 911 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: you made my day, Molly. How have you been a good? Good? 912 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: Look at this like power group of ladies. I'm talking 913 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: love it wonderful, Colly. I was just telling the girls 914 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: the moment that I fell in love with you, and 915 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm I don't remember whose wedding it was at, well 916 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: you and I got a little pie faced. That was 917 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: everybody's wedding that I've been to, so I was I 918 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: was precking at weddings so that would not I was 919 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: telling the girls how you confessed to me that what 920 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: a wino you are, and I was like, oh my god, 921 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: me too, and you were like one time I was 922 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: laying in the bed with a glass of wine and 923 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: a bag of embarrassing and Jason came in to find 924 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: me with Cheetos, and I was like, do you know 925 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: my times I find Diana like that. I was like, 926 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: I love Molly so much, Like I was so in 927 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: bed with my hand in the Cheeto's bag. I love this. 928 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: My pretty good, I said, I'm pretty sure I sent 929 00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: Molly photos of me several times later. Passed so right, 930 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: It's so great because you know when people see us, 931 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: they see us on TV in gowns, fully made up, 932 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 1: sitting you know, in a professional setting. You know, everything 933 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: has to be on point. And then like somebody's like, 934 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I too fall asleep, passed out with 935 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: my hand in the chip back and one hand on 936 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: the glass of wine. I've literally fallen asleep. Yeah. Have 937 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: you have you lived life? If you hadn't passed out 938 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: with like a slice of pizza in your mouth, I 939 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: don't think so right. Yeah, let me tell you. If 940 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: you're taking your wine and been like, oh, I'm really 941 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: tired right now and put it in the fridge for tomorrow, 942 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: like your glass, I'm on another level. Oh I finished 943 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: every glass. I never had the wine, you know, don't 944 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: hoist it. Last night I fell asleep so I'm in, 945 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: like Molly, I'm in. I don't know if down on 946 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: the seat it, but I'm in La. I'm back and forth. 947 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: And so I'm setting up my new apartment and I 948 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: was like, gotta gotta get a bottle of wine while 949 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: I'm at the store, you know. So I got these 950 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: plastic little cups and I was like, I'm gonna have 951 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have wine. And I fell asleep so tired, 952 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: and I woke up and I was like, what is 953 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: that smell? You know, how like wine smells different than 954 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: that stuff, Like, oh my god. Anyways, okay, selling stories, Holly, 955 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: how are you doing well? Beck already asks you how 956 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: are you doing? But like quarantine everything, like let's do 957 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: a little check in with the how are the kids? 958 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: It's good. I mean it's been interesting, Like I'm going 959 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: through what every other working parent in America is going 960 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: through with school being all remote and online. So like 961 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,479 Speaker 1: I've taken on a new job of homeschool teacher, which 962 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: is something I never thought I would do. Um And 963 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: I was used to prior to all the world shutting down, 964 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: I was used to being home by myself all day 965 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: long and then overnight everyone's in my house. Yeah, all 966 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: day long. Like I I don't know. I like, you're 967 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: not meant to spend that much time with your fous 968 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: So why this is why you have such a fabulous 969 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: closet that you could describe your gospel and get away 970 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: right lock the door. Yeah. So it's like my kids, 971 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: like Riley and Tie are really good kids. They handled 972 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: the school stuff really well. Um, but we're in it 973 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: again for the fall. They announced that schools canceled for 974 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: the fall. So not same here. I told the girls 975 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: that I was updating my resume. I'm the school teacher, 976 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: I am the cleaning lady, I'm the chief, I am 977 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: the wife, I am all of the things, the blond caretaker, 978 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: the nanny. Go get it. Oh my gosh. So for Bashel, 979 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: happy our listeners out there. Um, if you didn't know, 980 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: we had actually two superwomen on the podcast today, it ain't. 981 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: I listened to you, and I'm like, Rachel, don't complain 982 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: about what you're doing when it's just it's just like me, 983 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: Brian and the dog. You know. But everyone has their 984 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: own challenges, you know, like everyone's going through something. Guys 985 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 1: deserve a hand clasps and a glass of wine. Sure, 986 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: I've heard of the war and ten. I'm just thankful 987 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: I can even get pans. Oh god, twenty yeah, exactly whatever. 988 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. I feel like we 989 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: should take you know, everybody's lives are so crazy right now, 990 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 1: and what's been great about, you know, Monday nights being 991 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,240 Speaker 1: back to normal. I guess if you're in the Bachelor 992 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: world and you've got the greatest seasons ever playing, so 993 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: it gives you a little bit of escape. I love 994 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: to say that I'm a big sports person, So if 995 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: you're not a sports person, that's what the Bachelor is 996 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: for you. You know, like it's like Monday night Football, 997 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: Monday Night Bachelor. But we do know that Claire season 998 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: is filming now, So are you guys excited for Claire? 999 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: What are your spots? I've met Claire a couple of times. 1000 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: I adore her. I think it's going to be such 1001 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: a refreshing facelift for the franchise, just having like an 1002 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: older woman who knows what she's looking for, she knows 1003 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: what she wants. She's not going to let anyone, you know, 1004 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: bullshit her around, which I think is going to be 1005 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: so fun to see. It's almost like I feel like 1006 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 1: The Bachelor is coming back to its core. Really, you know, 1007 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: you guys were asking me earlier if I still watched 1008 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: the show. And I have had such a struggle with 1009 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: watching some of the young adults who come on the 1010 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: show because as a grown woman who is married for 1011 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: almost ten years and all of the step I have 1012 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: a hard time relating to the young girls because almso 1013 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: like they have no clue, Like they have a whole 1014 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 1: other world ahead of them they have no clue about. 1015 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: But with Claire, the nice thing is is that Claire 1016 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: has been around for a while and she is a 1017 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 1: grown ass woman. There's something really beautiful in that. And 1018 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: also what I so appreciate about appreciate about Claire is 1019 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: that she's not someone to be reckoned with, Like she 1020 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: is not a pushover. She knows exactly what she wants 1021 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: and she is willing to stand up for what she 1022 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: believes in. And I so appreciate that in someone because 1023 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: at twenty six when I was on the show, I 1024 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: couldn't do that. Yeah, there was twenty four when I 1025 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: was on the show. I was a I was the 1026 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: youngest girl on our season, like I was a baby, 1027 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: and I like Jason laughed about it all the time 1028 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: because when we were filming, I would always tell him like, 1029 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm super mature for my age, but like, okay, in 1030 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: your defense, in your defense, I feel like there is 1031 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 1: a difference because of and we were talking about this 1032 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: before the social media aspect. Yeah, so a twenty four 1033 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: year old then is a little different from a twenty 1034 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: four year old now. I have to say that. But 1035 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: I just thought about this while we were talking. So 1036 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: Claire has had an unfair maybe fair advantage. This is 1037 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: a silver lining and the fact that she had to 1038 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: wait months for her season to start. Her cast was 1039 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: released in March. You know, she was telling me these 1040 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: men all over Instagram. None of us got to do that, right, Like, 1041 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: and I remember even me coming on next season, I 1042 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: didn't even know who he was. I was like, oh, 1043 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: who is he? I had to google him? So, like 1044 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: we we don't get to see and get that advantage 1045 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: of who maybe whose season we're going on before, or 1046 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: who's coming on to arts. Do you think that help 1047 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: or helps or hurts Claire. I think she'll go in 1048 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: with an idea and it may not be what she's expecting. 1049 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: I think I think it could post some challenges for sure, 1050 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, like you seek them on and think about 1051 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: what you see on social media. It isn't reality anyway, 1052 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it helps Claire and 1053 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: it hurts production. That's what I think. Oh good, hot 1054 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 1: take take, Because from speaking with Claire, she had at 1055 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 1: the time to go home and dive deep into that Instagram, 1056 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, struggle. She got to look at all of 1057 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 1: the guys, and also during quarantine she got to see, 1058 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: once they were already cast the show, who was still 1059 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: taking it very seriously and who was out partying every 1060 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 1: single night posting photos of themselves with their girls or 1061 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: whoever else was around. So I think walking into the situation, 1062 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: I think for Claire, she already had maybe a pre 1063 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: judgment of what was to come, and then unfortunately for production, 1064 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: like the idea of surprise is gone. Well, I think 1065 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: she's gonna have these conversations with these guys though, Like 1066 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,959 Speaker 1: the beauty of the show is you've never met the person, 1067 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: so you can sit and ask them all the whole 1068 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: things you would ask if someone you just met. But like, 1069 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: if she's gonna be like so I saw the tribute 1070 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: check in twenty seventeen to gree Oh, you know she's 1071 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: going to call it out. You know she's gonna be 1072 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: asking those questions. I alway think I feel like she's 1073 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: going to make a lot of cuts early on. Like 1074 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: if I was hurt and I knew enough, I would 1075 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: I would be like, Okay, these are like I only 1076 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: want half the guys to continue moving forward with me, 1077 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: and that's where I want to invest my time. It'll 1078 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: be imagine she's sitting on all of those roads ceremonies, like, hey, 1079 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: I was taking a look down your Instagram and remember 1080 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: on July seventeenth when you had your shirt off and 1081 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: that girl was licking your belly up singh was Amy? 1082 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: Who is Amy? That would be? I think that's what's 1083 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: so great about this too, and we I don't know 1084 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: if we talked about this off camera or on Becca. 1085 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: But also the fact that these guys know they're not 1086 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: going to be the bachelor coming in. They think about 1087 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: that and they won't be traveling. So it's like the 1088 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: reason why I think people go on the show, like 1089 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: hopefully it's to find lover or a partnership, but I 1090 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: think people go on they're like, oh, you know, we 1091 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: still going to travel and build friendships and the fact 1092 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: that like they can't do half of what we had 1093 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do. Um. I mean, Deanna, I think 1094 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: you said it. Who one of your girls said it, 1095 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: like it's kind of going back to the core and 1096 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: like back to the basics. Now you're taking away all 1097 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: of that extra like who ha, like glitz and glam 1098 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: and it's really like date just down to the dates 1099 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: and getting to know the other person and actually like 1100 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: travel a lot on your season. I don't I cannot 1101 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: tell you how many times Trista and I text each 1102 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: other and we are so jealous of all of you 1103 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: guys because we don't really either our dream vacations. And 1104 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: I went to like the Bahamas and I was so covered. 1105 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Bahamas is not beautiful, but like 1106 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: in comparison to like Tokyo and Greece, and as like 1107 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: what the heck? Like I was so covered in bug 1108 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: bites in the Bahamas that they would no longer let 1109 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: me wear shorts or skirts. They made me wear pants. 1110 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: I was I was like unpresentable. I look like I 1111 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: had scabies or something. I'll go ahead, Becca, No, I 1112 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: was gonna say so you know, well, before you join us, 1113 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about Diana's children. Obviously you 1114 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: have some beautiful children, and you both have daughters. So 1115 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: would you want to come of age? Let let the 1116 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: daughters go on the show. I mean, if this show 1117 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: is still around when Riley is of age, like, there's 1118 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: a bigger problem. We don't apo. Oh my gosh, you 1119 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm I cannot even go there because right 1120 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: now I'm dealing with the fact that Addison knew that 1121 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: my season, well, she knew, like I was going to 1122 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: be on TV again, you know, and she wanted to 1123 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: watch and she saw a couple of photos that were 1124 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: in my phone of what someone sent to me, and 1125 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: it was like one picture of me kissing Brad. She 1126 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Molly, I didn't know. I'm 1127 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: forgetting this. Jason season is on Netflix. Yeah, and the 1128 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: kids were watching something on the TV and I just 1129 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: popped it up to see what showed. Because I'll never 1130 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: live down the fact that everyone thinks I went back 1131 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: on that final listing Jason back and I'm like, that's 1132 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: not what happened. Like I realized that's the way it played, 1133 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: but I just went back to give Jason advice. Like 1134 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Jason and I had been talking the whole way through filming, 1135 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: so I knew it was like Allie, I knew all 1136 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: about Melissa, like I knew everything. And so I was 1137 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: watching that and Addison was like, who's that man? That's 1138 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: not my daddy. So, yeah, it's so hard to explain 1139 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: six and a half year old. We've got Tie who 1140 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: was fifteen, and so he's the closest of all Bachelor 1141 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 1: kids that could potentially be on the show. Yeah, and 1142 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: when it popped up on Netflix, like we had never 1143 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 1: let him watch it before because this is weird. So 1144 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: he found it on Netflix and he's like, I'm gonna 1145 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: start watching this, and I like that week was the 1146 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: most mortified week of my life. Yeah. Every time I 1147 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: like popped in the room to like check on him 1148 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: and I like saw myself, I would run right out. 1149 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: But like he has said before, like I could totally 1150 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: go on this show, and he's I mean, he's the 1151 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: show could potentially still be on when he's of age. 1152 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the first kid from a Bachelor kid you 1153 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't have set you It's like a draft recruiting him 1154 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: for several years down the road. Yeah right, Hopefully he 1155 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: doesn't listen to this podcast. Molly, I want to ask 1156 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: you this, what was your greatest thing to come from 1157 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: being on the show, and then what was also the worst. 1158 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's you know, we can all maybe guess, 1159 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: but I want to hear it from you. I Mean, 1160 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the obvious is like finding Jason and marrying him, having 1161 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: our family, but that's just too obvious that goes without saying. 1162 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I think it changed my perspective on life. Like before 1163 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: I went on the show, I was a workhorse, like 1164 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: I did corporate retail. I was like, this is what 1165 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do for the rest of my life. I'm 1166 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna work at a desk nine to five. I was 1167 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: just like laser focused on it. And the show opens 1168 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: your eyes to so much more in life, with like 1169 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: the opportunities that come your way. I ended up getting 1170 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: a job in radio from being on the show and 1171 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: have done that the past six years, and that never 1172 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: would have happened had I not gone on the show. 1173 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: So I think I just it gave me like a 1174 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: new lease on life, almost like there's more to sitting 1175 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: behind a desk. And I also have this big platform 1176 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: where I can do good and promote good things and 1177 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: just I don't know, it just gives you a different 1178 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 1: life and I'm super grateful for it. I Mean, the 1179 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: hardest thing was all the backlash that we got from 1180 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: our finale, but that was also short lived, like time 1181 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: does you know all woves and like I haven't with 1182 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: our season being back on that bloos, I haven't had 1183 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: one single negative comments on social media about it. So 1184 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: it's like I don't have anything bad to say, Like 1185 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: we went through a bad time, but I think that 1186 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: brought Jason to me closer together and so I'm grateful 1187 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: for it all. It's so true if you can withstand 1188 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: it together, because everybody has a hard time, especially these 1189 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: days with social media. Coming out of your finale, you 1190 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: think you're so happy to finally announce to the world 1191 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: that you found this person that you're so in love 1192 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: with and it worked, and then social media is like 1193 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: we think in a different way, and it's so hard, 1194 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: and then you have to do media rounds and I'm 1195 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: not sure Molly if you did that, because do the 1196 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: media rounds after and everyone's criticizing you and the questions 1197 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: and they're asking you questions about what didn't happen rather 1198 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: than what did happen. And it's tough, but in that moment, 1199 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: you realize, if we can face this and overcome it together, 1200 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: you can overcome anything. Because the world is criticizing you, 1201 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: and so it's really really powerful to come out on 1202 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: the other side of it. One thing I want to 1203 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: say before we let you guys go, is like we've 1204 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: talked about it over and over and it's such a 1205 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: theme for our podcast, but we love to have strong women, independent, 1206 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: influential women on the show, which is exactly who you 1207 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: guys are, which is why you're here. Surely that Becca 1208 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: and I look up to and we hope that contestants 1209 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: to come on the show the next Bachelorette, just women 1210 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: in general who are fans of the show that may 1211 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: never come on it and you shouldn't but may never 1212 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: come on the show can look up to you. What 1213 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 1: is vice do you have for clear coming up and 1214 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,479 Speaker 1: just for women in general who are trying to find 1215 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: their prince charming or maybe who might be in a 1216 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: bad situation or just feel a little hopeless when it 1217 01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 1: comes to love. I love you. I think I've said 1218 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: this to Claire Got a time or two. For sure. 1219 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: My advice for Claire was to just, I mean, for sure, 1220 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: take it all in, but ultimately to stay true to 1221 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: who you are. It is so easy throughout this process 1222 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: to get caught up, and I think the four of 1223 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: us can all say the same thing. It is so 1224 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: easy to just blend into the noise around you, and 1225 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean producers, I mean, everyone's opinion on social media, 1226 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: everything that is going to go into this. But if 1227 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: you really, at the end of the day, can come 1228 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 1: into your own and sit alone and really put yourself 1229 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: back to who you are and where you came from 1230 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: and what it is that you want, I think that 1231 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: that is the most important thing to do throughout this 1232 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: because I mean, it is really hard to be on 1233 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: a date to have the people around you who you 1234 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: think are your friends saying, oh, don't you love him? 1235 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: He says he loves you. Don't can't you picture your 1236 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: life together? This is gonna be so great? Oh my god, 1237 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's really hard to get caught up 1238 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: into that. So if you can really, really really stay 1239 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: true to who you are and what it is that 1240 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,959 Speaker 1: you want out of this, and I think that's so important. Yeah, 1241 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: I think, I mean it goes hand in hand, like 1242 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: exactly what I would say. And I tell this to 1243 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: everybody who asks, like what have you learned? What's the 1244 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: biggest piece of advice you would give people? And it's 1245 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: to not care what other people think? Like if I 1246 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 1: would have listened to what everyone around me was saying 1247 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: after our show, I wouldn't stay with Jason, and we've 1248 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: been married for ten years. You know, like you've got 1249 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to just do you, and it's no fun to live 1250 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,439 Speaker 1: life the way other people want you to live your life. 1251 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, like you can't be authentic to yourself, then 1252 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: you've got to just not care what other people think 1253 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: and like walk out the noise. It's so true, because 1254 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: don't you feel we do it so often? I don't 1255 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: know if it's just like innately within us. But then 1256 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: and I have this epiphany when I turned thirty that 1257 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: it was like whose life am I living? You know, 1258 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying yes to so many people and letting so 1259 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: many other opinions control my life, But what do I want? 1260 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm one who's got to live this life, and I 1261 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: think that that's it's easy to say, but it's so 1262 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: hard to do. So thank you guys, for you, right, 1263 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: you want to please all of those people around you, 1264 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: You want to make everyone happy, but ultimately the only 1265 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: person that matters in this is you is you know, 1266 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: oh well said yeah? And I think that's such good advice, 1267 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: especially in this day and age when there's social media, 1268 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: when we literally have opinions flooding inboxes and it's just 1269 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: there's no truly no getting away from it unless you 1270 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 1: like totally go off the grid. That that's something that 1271 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you know. And even for me, I'm I just hearned 1272 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: thirty this year, and that's something that you know. I'm 1273 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 1: always like, oh, I know what I want left, like, 1274 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I know what I stand for, and I'm like, especially 1275 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: with I'm like, oh my, what do I, as Becca 1276 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Coofer and want? And I think that's such great advice 1277 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: forever girl listening, Like you know, just take time and 1278 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 1: sit in your own thoughts in your heart and like 1279 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: what's going to fill you and make you And for 1280 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: people you specifically like that, girls, girls who have been 1281 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 1: on the show, girls who are thinking about going on 1282 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: the show. I think the most important thing people need 1283 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: to remember this goes away. Yeah, it goes away. You 1284 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 1: are not going to be so and so from the 1285 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Bachelor for forever. You cannot rely on that and live 1286 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 1: your life for that because it is going to go away, 1287 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 1: and then what are you left with? Yeah, exactly. I 1288 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: think it's like, I know, come on, please and being 1289 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: known as the girl who chose Jesse Sinsak on a 1290 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 1: red I'm gonna say to you, Becca, like, bring on 1291 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: your thirties and name sure Mollie can agree with me. 1292 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 1: I genuinely loved my thirties and even more so, I'll 1293 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: be thirty nine in a couple of months, and I 1294 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 1: feel more myself and more secure as a woman, as 1295 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 1: a wife, as a parent, just as an individual, like 1296 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: more so than I ever was. I know who I 1297 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: am and there is so much good in that. Yeah, 1298 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: And that's something that I think Lair even said when 1299 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: we had her on the podcast, and I think we're 1300 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: gonna love watching her so much. And she's like, you know, 1301 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm almost forty, Like I've I know what I want. 1302 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 1: I've been through a ton of really crappy relationships, hopefully 1303 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: some good ones too, But she's that woman where she's 1304 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: at that place where she's like, I'm not going to settle. 1305 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I know what I want I'm going to make this happen, 1306 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: and that's that's what it's going to be. Just I 1307 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: feel viewers need on a new upcoming season. So yeah, 1308 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 1: for sure, ladies, thank you so much for participating today. 1309 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, it's like a therapy session, 1310 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: a good girl power Holly and Diana, you're saying before 1311 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: you came on, there's this women empowering women movement going 1312 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: on social media, women supporting women, and we feel like 1313 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: that's what this podcast has been as well. We just 1314 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of stole that and turned it into this. Plus 1315 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: I think your insight and what you've been through through 1316 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: the season and just an example of what you've been 1317 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 1: outside of the Bachelor franchise, it's really what our listeners 1318 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: need to see and here. So thank you so much 1319 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: for being yes, and what a pleasure. How lucky are 1320 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 1: we that we just always get to connect with so 1321 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: many amazing women. It's so good and then it's still 1322 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of bad. I was listening to something I said, 1323 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, but you shouldn't want to come on 1324 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the show. Actually, I like you should come from this exactly. Yes, 1325 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: it's not fake, it's real, you see it. It just 1326 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: transcends your seasons. Whoever you were, you know, you might 1327 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: have lived in the house with It just goes beyond that. 1328 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: And I can't say everybody coming from the show is 1329 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: like that, but a good number of women are, you know, 1330 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: And it's just a beautiful part that you don't always 1331 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: get to see on this show. I mean, even Peter season, 1332 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 1: the girls who couldn't stand each other, or at least 1333 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 1: that's what they would show on camera, they all not 1334 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: all of them, but they're pretty cordial to each other 1335 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: off camera. Yeah, it looks like they're close. And even 1336 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: like with Peter's season, you know, for a lot of 1337 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: the time, I was like, I'm a grandma and I 1338 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: can't relate. Like I talked to them on DMS every 1339 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: now and again, and I'm like, you know, what I 1340 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: saw on TV doesn't seem like you. And so it's 1341 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,560 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing that hopefully we'll have the opportunity 1342 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,560 Speaker 1: to meet more in person one day and just continue this. 1343 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 1: It's like a tree and the roots that just keep 1344 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 1: on growing in a special family in the best way. 1345 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I love. Oh, I love that I saw the tree 1346 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: when you set it A saw the tree ension. I 1347 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,600 Speaker 1: love that okay, you guys, We hope you enjoyed this 1348 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 1: episode as much as we did. Make sure you come 1349 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: back next week for more because you know we're going 1350 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 1: to give you good content every single week. Next week, 1351 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: we're going to take a second stab at choosing a name, 1352 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 1: So if you guys to have some more suggestions, please 1353 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 1: please DM because we need one. We clearly need help. 1354 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 1: We didn't do a good job the first time. We 1355 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: don't want to disappoint anybody, but we want you guys 1356 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: to feel included and we want to be able to 1357 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 1: have some type of name and community. So thank you 1358 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: guys for tuning in. Don't forget you can keep checking 1359 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 1: in with us on social We love hearing from you 1360 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 1: and we love getting all your messages. You know where 1361 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: to find us if you don't, it's it's at Bachelor 1362 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Instagram and at bach Happy Hour on 1363 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter. And as always, don't forget to subscribe 1364 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 1: to our podcast. Take care of guys,