WEBVTT - Ep. 43 — The Power of Grit and a Good Book

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<v Speaker 1>We should open with we never say this is Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like Brown, we never like you know it time

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<v Speaker 2>like the present.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was just telling Mandy, we never say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you're listening to Brown Ambition. I mean, do you guys

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<v Speaker 3>care or do you kind of know?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you downloaded the if you subscribe

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<v Speaker 2>to the podcast and you have to push play and

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<v Speaker 2>you see the logo, you might know it's Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you guys who've like stumbled home drunk

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<v Speaker 2>and just started listening, this is Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Tiffany and Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be your co host Mandy and Tiffany. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I don't you know what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say off the bat, because I was just going

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<v Speaker 2>our inbox and we have so many sweet notes from listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>like at least a dozen from the past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks alone, and I just wanted to say, we really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the emails. It's so nice of you. What we'd

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate even more is if you could turn those emails,

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<v Speaker 2>just copy and paste them and put them on iTunes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, just a simple, a simple way to do

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<v Speaker 2>good in your podcasting immunity because iTunes reviews are like

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<v Speaker 2>currency in the podcast world, and that just means that

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<v Speaker 2>other people like you can find the show and enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>the show. And we live in a yelp world and

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<v Speaker 2>people want to know, you know, what others think of

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<v Speaker 2>something before they try it out. So it would definitely

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<v Speaker 2>help us out if you guys, could you know, kindly

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<v Speaker 2>send all the emails you want, but a nice little

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<v Speaker 2>iTunes review on top of that would just be so sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>Be your best friend, best friend, that's my best friend,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll just pass out free best friend cards exactly everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, send us. Maybe we should do another giveaway

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<v Speaker 2>that worked out pretty good the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well, I mean it's not ready yet, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do have these DreamCatcher t shirts that I'm making

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<v Speaker 3>and they're so cute, but they're not quite finished yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But when they are, we can do that as a giveaway.

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<v Speaker 2>Who doesn't love a T shirt? Yeah, So, when you

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<v Speaker 2>leave a review, take a screenshop and go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>email it to brown MBIs Podcasts at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we come up with the sweet giveaway idea,

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<v Speaker 2>we will we'll have to do it some sorlver drawing

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. I'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I love giving stuff away me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a good giveaway.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lord, Okay, let's get home with the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is kind of well, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say this, but I'm like, I may or may

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<v Speaker 3>not have regifted a really great gift to one of

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<v Speaker 3>my VFF and she was so convinced that I bought it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>How I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what should I do? Should I just

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<v Speaker 3>let her rock out? So it was a it was

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<v Speaker 3>a a Kindle fire. I'd want it at FINCNN remember

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<v Speaker 3>Finconn last year, like I got an award or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>uh huh, And it gave me like this awesome kindle fire,

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<v Speaker 3>And but I already have a kindle and I have

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<v Speaker 3>a laptop. So I was just kind of like, I

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<v Speaker 3>kept it in the packaging. I didn't even open it

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought, like Supergirl has an iPad, Superman doesn't care,

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<v Speaker 3>like he's not really tech, mister tech guy. And so

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<v Speaker 3>everybody who I kind of was thinking about giving it

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<v Speaker 3>to at the time when I first got it, it

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't make sense. And then her birthday passed not

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<v Speaker 3>too long ago, and I was like, oh, I should

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<v Speaker 3>give it to dust friend because I called her and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, do you have an iPad or Kendall? She

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<v Speaker 3>said no. But then when I gave it to her,

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<v Speaker 3>she was so overwhelmed, and I realized quickly, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I didn't think that to say, oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm regifting. But I'm like, do you tell.

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<v Speaker 1>People when you read gifts?

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<v Speaker 3>Because now I feel bad, But I'm like, it's still

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<v Speaker 3>a really good gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, does your best friend listen to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I'm sure people who know her, dude, don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell her.

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<v Speaker 2>She knows, don't go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's still gonna be geeked up.

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<v Speaker 3>But she was like so like overwhelmed, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the idea?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, cause she.

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<v Speaker 3>Knows, like like you know, I'm like notoriously like cheap,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think she was like, I was like, he's

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<v Speaker 3>so excited. It's just a candle far Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks I bought this. I mean it is brand new.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think you have to tell something.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't tell her if you had bought it, like

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<v Speaker 2>how much it costs. I don't I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm leaning towards no.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So if you guys know bff, I have two

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't know which one it is. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna say, but if you see her with a

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<v Speaker 3>new kindel fire, allow her to enjoy and to think.

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<v Speaker 1>That I purchased it. It was not intentional. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like it was just I knew that she would

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it, and I was like, she care it to

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<v Speaker 1>be f f.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There is that thing though of like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you give someone a gift, not that money means that,

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<v Speaker 2>it means more, but it's I mean, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>the gift is thoughtful, like you thought she'd really enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 2>and clearly she does. It'd be one thing if like

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<v Speaker 2>you were you know, it's like, oh, I have this

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<v Speaker 2>free scarf and your friend lives in Florida and just

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<v Speaker 2>like give it to her for birthday, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, she's a big reader. That's why I was like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>she would love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you could have easily sold out for I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how much it's worth, Like that's just one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bucks or something and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do No, you're right. I could have You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>See, Mandy, I'm just here to affirm every all the

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<v Speaker 2>choices you make.

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<v Speaker 1>How good of that? So we have to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the BET Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we do, but really, just to be completely transparent,

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<v Speaker 2>I did not watch it because I haven't been in

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<v Speaker 2>a place in my life where I can watch an

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<v Speaker 2>entire music awards show in a long time, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I watched the clips usually, and usually I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>clips the next day.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl but best friend was like, hey, I was on

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<v Speaker 3>my way to go for a walk and I called her.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like about to start with this walk so

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<v Speaker 3>I can be snatched for Essence Fest And she was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>come over and watch the BET Awards instead, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, So I missed like the first hour.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just fun to hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I'm not an award show person at all, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was actually really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it was good, But I feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>BET Awards, like you're not really there to see who

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<v Speaker 2>wins the awards, do you know what I mean? It's

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<v Speaker 2>more of like the entertainment. The host I saw that

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy Anderson or not Tracy Anderson. What is happening Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>Ellis Ross thesting together again?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's why I thought you mixed them up because

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<v Speaker 1>you blended their.

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<v Speaker 2>Name, did I? No? I think Tracy Anderson is that

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<v Speaker 2>like workout coach that Madonna and Tracy Ellis Ross also

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<v Speaker 2>use I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but she was she was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Tracy alis Ross is always great, and Anthony Anderson

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<v Speaker 3>was funny. But you know, it just was because BT

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<v Speaker 3>is not exactly known for keeping a classy but it

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<v Speaker 3>was so well done and the way they honored Prince,

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<v Speaker 3>this was the best tribute I'd seen, just period, across

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<v Speaker 3>the board, not just BT, just in general like giving

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<v Speaker 3>tribute to an artist. Because what they did was that

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<v Speaker 3>everymusical selection there was a Prince tribute like folded in,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for the most part. So it wasn't like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just this one long montage of Prince Vince, Prince, let's

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<v Speaker 3>go about our business. It was like everyone who sang

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<v Speaker 3>a song gave tribute, usually in some way, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just really nice. It was so well done. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, look at bat growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew there was a lot of pressure on them though, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after what award show was it that happened right

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<v Speaker 2>after Prince passed and in Madonna Bond Yes, oh Madonna

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<v Speaker 2>was Stevie and everyone was like, bet you better come,

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<v Speaker 2>like put up or shut.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, yup, and they honestly they put up. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, like my favorite musical selections. Beyonce killed

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<v Speaker 3>it with Kenchrick Lamar in the beginning. Jennifer Hudson laid,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean her voice is just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>genius anyway, but she just was incredible Janelle Money, although

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<v Speaker 3>vocally I wasn't there with her necessarily, but her energy,

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<v Speaker 3>like she know, she's got like that great dance thing

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<v Speaker 3>that she does, and so she that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Butlile who he was Prince and Carnate like, so, who

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<v Speaker 1>is so blod?

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<v Speaker 3>You know you must be my soul sister, soul sister, hey, sis,

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<v Speaker 3>you never heard that song? Well you still have not

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<v Speaker 3>heard it because that's not how he sounds. But he

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<v Speaker 3>came out like maybe like I want to say, ten

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<v Speaker 3>to fifteen years ago, maybe longer, but when he was

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<v Speaker 3>part of like the neo soul movement, remember when like

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<v Speaker 3>di'angelo and all that, like yes, yeah, yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 3>was part of like the neo soul movement. But he

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<v Speaker 3>What I love about Blau is that very similar to Prince.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a classically trained musician. He has perfect pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>He plays a number of instruments, and he's got that

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<v Speaker 3>same rangers Prince, like that super high falsetto and then

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<v Speaker 3>that super low like baritone voice and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Redid I forget what song?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a difficult Prince song and he killed it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he sounded like Prince even like rolled on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground like Prince. He he was Prince. And everybody

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<v Speaker 3>was like, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I haven't watched that clip. I need to watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Prince tribute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was good. Yeah, honestly, everything was just really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was like, look at Beyonce, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Beyonce usually doesn't do the BET Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>All the headlines I saw today, including the front page

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<v Speaker 2>of Yahoo, was about Jesse Williams's speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot about that, just to find himself to his

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful wife.

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<v Speaker 1>But his speech, did you listen? Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 4>Later?

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<v Speaker 2>The clip I watched, and and well I read the

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<v Speaker 2>transcript first and then I watched would you think? I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was really poetic, like that's the only way.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost like spoken word. We know Jesse Williams

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<v Speaker 2>as the beautiful face on Gray's Anatomy. Yes, I still

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<v Speaker 2>watch how many years like twelve thousand years later anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's always been very vocal and outspoken during the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Lives movement move matter or sorry, black Lives Matter

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<v Speaker 2>movement since four AM anyway. Yeah, so it's it was

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let you talk, said yeah, without joke, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it was very poetic.

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<v Speaker 3>It was there were some things that he said that

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<v Speaker 3>just especially the last few lines he said something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, uh that you you what did he say?

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<v Speaker 2>We may be magic, but that doesn't mean that we're

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<v Speaker 2>not real?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they we're not humans.

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<v Speaker 2>That was really no yeah to that effect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there was no something that he said. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>you you put us on like clothes and then discard

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<v Speaker 3>us like the rhymes of strange fruit. I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>was like the so like I used to do like

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<v Speaker 3>spoken word like all that yes, yes, yes, back in college,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like yes, like that old Tiffany was

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<v Speaker 3>from twenty one was like just like snapping my fingers

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<v Speaker 3>and like just sipping my tea. It was amazing they

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<v Speaker 3>had done some Do you hit that feedback feedback?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't hear anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, sorry I heard feedback, But no, they'd done

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of like a little clip leading up to Jesse.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know that he was an Africana studies

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<v Speaker 3>professor at one point. It totally makes sense that he

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<v Speaker 3>was a teacher and the Africanda studies professor.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see his.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you see his father in the audience, like

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<v Speaker 3>tearing up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know have his father.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was like his father and his mother. So

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse is biracial, his mother is white, his father is black,

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<v Speaker 3>and his father and his mom they just looked so proud,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought I saw tears in his father's eyes,

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<v Speaker 3>like look him all, I have taught him good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we didn't even say he was there accepting an

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<v Speaker 2>award for Humanitarian of the Year. That's the whole reason

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't just like you know, oh yeah up there,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, grabbing the mic from somebody, and he

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<v Speaker 2>also runs, I'm gonna I want to I'm want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the group he runs. Oh, it's called the

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<v Speaker 2>Advancement Project. We've talked about him a couple of times

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast before The Advancement Project is I believe

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<v Speaker 2>mostly about I don't know. I'm not even gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>and pretend like I know exactly what it's about. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's one there's one thing he does forcifically. There was

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<v Speaker 2>like a documentary series or something that was all about

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<v Speaker 2>black men in America. That's right, Okay, got.

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<v Speaker 3>Something right that like just basically shifting the portrayal of

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<v Speaker 3>black men. And it's I think it's a docuseries, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just they showed like clips of it on.

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<v Speaker 1>The BT woards like while they were honoring him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he got a bigger standing ovation than any

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<v Speaker 3>other artists, like like you know who's saying or anything else,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he really moved the crowd. He talked about how

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday or the day or today would be tame or

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<v Speaker 3>Rice's fourteenth birthday, and that you know that sanction that

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<v Speaker 3>they did a that paid public servants did a sanctioned

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<v Speaker 3>drive by on a twelve year old playing alone in

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<v Speaker 3>the park alone. How can you say that we've advanced?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't hear a language like that in the news.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't you know, accidentally discharged his weapon or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not a sanctioned drive by, which is essentially what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not mincing words at all.

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<v Speaker 3>If you haven't listened to it. It's like mandatory viewing, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it's important when like he's making headlines

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<v Speaker 2>and not Beyonce, not Jennifer Hudson, not the Prince Tribute,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Williams, Ye anything, Oh did you? Justin Timberlake got

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<v Speaker 2>in a little bit of trouble afterward.

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<v Speaker 3>But he didn't say anything wrong. I thought he just

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<v Speaker 3>said I'm inspired. That's what I thought he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he responded to someone who tweeted at him, saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so does this mean you're gonna stop appropriating our culture?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, people have issues with Justin Timberlake and

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<v Speaker 2>Robin Thick and being like white dudes singing R and B.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it really hard to be upset at Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Timberlake because I've loved him for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, I'm sorry, I'm like sorry, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>There's rude enough for everybody, and Justin Timberlake.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm like, I'm actually gonna give him a past

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<v Speaker 3>like I always I mean, I grew up at that

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<v Speaker 3>time where I was like just that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he has like the Black card of passes, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Black visa or what is it, the Black AMX.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get it unlimited for your lifetime. He has that.

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<v Speaker 2>He has that pass card anyway, but he responded to

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<v Speaker 2>them saying oh sorry. He was like, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, sweet heart, which is my pet peeve. Southerners

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<v Speaker 2>do that when they're being condescending, they call you sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, sweetheart, I'm just trying to say that

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're all one human race and something to

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<v Speaker 2>that effect. You know. He might as well have put

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<v Speaker 2>hashtag all Lives Matter at the end of it, basically.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he like walked back and apologized. I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, this is again a moment where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>no one, it's your moment to speak and sometimes just

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<v Speaker 2>let just let us have our moment without chiming in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, wasn't there there was a video, this awesome video

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<v Speaker 3>of a Muslim woman speaking on the same panel as

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<v Speaker 3>Glorious Steinem and I can't remember where it was but

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<v Speaker 3>they asked basically like what can people do? And he

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<v Speaker 3>said and she said, and it was just so appropriate

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<v Speaker 3>because Glorious Sinum was literally literally passing her the mic

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<v Speaker 3>to speak. And she said, that's what you can do

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<v Speaker 3>that allow us to tell our story past the mic,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you cannot decide for us or speak for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Allow us to speak for ourselves. And I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>that I mean And like I said, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a problem with his original tweet justin Timberlake, but I

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<v Speaker 3>get what you mean. Sometimes you're just like, yeah, now

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just sh yeah some.

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<v Speaker 2>Part you know, you want to talk about allies. The

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<v Speaker 2>best thing you can do is an ally. Sometimes is

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<v Speaker 2>no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Touch Yeah, you need to shut it. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hashtag passed the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, hashtag passed the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is anything? Did anything else happen in life? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Game of Thrones? This has absolutely nothing to do with finance.

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys came for finance topics today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the Yeah it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Game of Thrones was last night. I know you don't

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<v Speaker 2>watch it, but the finale was epic. If anyone wants

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<v Speaker 2>to swap notes, feel free to tweet me at Mandy

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<v Speaker 2>Woodruff or email us at Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. I have a lot of thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 2>show this is. This show was increasingly becoming like the

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<v Speaker 2>feminist icon, I feel like, because I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>medieval show, and I can't really think of another period

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<v Speaker 2>of time when women were more like victimized and objectified.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe all the times in history, but anyway, this period

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<v Speaker 2>is specifically it's all about like corsets and wenches and

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<v Speaker 2>rape and like using women as pawns and like just

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<v Speaker 2>make me an air, you know that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But this, like and this author, he's he's like this big,

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<v Speaker 2>like Santa Claus looking white dude from like Phoenix, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's made some bad ass like feminist characters we have,

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<v Speaker 2>and even like even Beyonce if you don't, if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want a reason to watch this, Beyonce watches

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<v Speaker 2>it too because she paid tribute to Kalisi, the Queen

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<v Speaker 2>of Dragons. Anyway, like five of the major and i'd

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<v Speaker 2>say prominent characters are all women right now. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is a show that started out like majority males six

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<v Speaker 2>seasons ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Superman and I we were talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, he's like, me and him are like eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, have you heard of Game of Thrones? I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I have, I have. I think I want

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<v Speaker 3>to get into it, and so I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that we might, you know, because we tend to

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<v Speaker 3>do that like wait forever and then like just like

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<v Speaker 3>watch like one weekend or like a week and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll just sit and watch it together as a family.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, obviously Supergirl can't watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but man, it's a little, uh, it's very vulgar.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just the sex and the in the the language.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like just the violence, the sheer violence, and the

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<v Speaker 2>blood and goods. Oh and the zombies.

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<v Speaker 1>Zombies, and yeah, I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get too caught up in the zombie aspect. It

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of turn you off. But it's interest. It's good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's scary, but good. The zombies are there. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>they're called white Walkers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think I've heard of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't read the books either, another just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it because I'm a masochist. But you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to read the books. To enjoy the show. Okay, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm jealous. You guys get to start from scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, we'll see, we'll see how long I laugh

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<v Speaker 3>because I usually have like I end up being like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm bored to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I do kind of have a financial topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I sat down with my wedding budget this week and

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<v Speaker 2>my my nice little multi sheet spreadsheet and Google docs.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened, but my wedding is like

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<v Speaker 2>twice as expensive as I thought it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>What to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bad at math.

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<v Speaker 3>I know life happened to Carrie Broadshow, but she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want a simple wedding and then all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, you're gonna have a bird in your hair.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a simple wedding. Like I'm literally I

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<v Speaker 2>have chosen the least expensive option for all the vendors

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of, and we're not even halfway done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really just estimating, and I'm my original budget. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say it was about fifteen thousand, and it's looking

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<v Speaker 2>more like twenty seven thousand. If my calculations are correct.

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<v Speaker 2>That cannot happen. I can't help and can it can't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know because I'm still like Superman

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<v Speaker 3>the other day was like, what's your ring size?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway? Just out of the blue, and I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>him like, don't play.

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<v Speaker 2>With can you just get it together? I know, stop

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<v Speaker 2>asking questions. He has all the information he needs.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, I'm gonna take batters into

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<v Speaker 1>my own hand. And I called best friend best not

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<v Speaker 1>kindle best friend, my other best friend. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>best friend, my ring size is a six.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you this place that was highly reviewed

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<v Speaker 3>on Yelp in the Diamond District in New York. And

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<v Speaker 3>what you're gonna do is you're gonna call Superman and say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>cut the shit, and you're gonna take him to the

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<v Speaker 3>place and you're not gonna make him feel bad or

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<v Speaker 3>like no matter what his budget is, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>find like a nice and you're not gonna let him

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<v Speaker 3>pick the ring like you know, just you know me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's simple. And he's a little bit busier than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna keep it simple because he's already spoken to

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<v Speaker 3>my father.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already, like you've done everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye like yeah, Like I don't know what we're waiting on, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>come on now. So that's what I told her.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, Okay, it's waiting for the stars to align.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are we waiting on?

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<v Speaker 2>We've been waiting weeks. He doesn't know we've been waiting weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. I come back and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>being podcast folks.

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<v Speaker 1>So it finally happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I cannot wait for you to be in spreadsheet. Hell,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you're gonna make everything simple.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, oh, yeah, no I am. I'm going out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you I know right, I'm like justice of

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<v Speaker 3>the piece and he's like, wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we'll see who wins.

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<v Speaker 2>You only get one, supposedly hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I wool said, no.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does start me, you know, making you start

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<v Speaker 2>to think. When you're putting this much money into an event,

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, what about people who get divorced? Aren't you

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<v Speaker 2>so madns of thousands of dollars down the drain?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine the people who get divorced and are

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<v Speaker 3>still paying for their wedding? How terrible that must be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've been. I've had money for this saved since

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<v Speaker 2>before I met well not since before I met him,

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<v Speaker 2>but since before. It was probably conventionally, you know, accepted

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<v Speaker 2>to be saving for a wedding to a person you're

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<v Speaker 2>not engaged to yet. I'm just trying to think long term.

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<v Speaker 2>The money is there. It's just like, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>also trying to save her house. It's just that it's

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<v Speaker 2>that time in your life where everything just collides. The house. Yeah, wedding,

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 2>everyone else's weddings, might I add, there's so many. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're out there and you're planning a wedding

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<v Speaker 2>or you have teen weddings to go to this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel your pain. Let's co miserate.

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<v Speaker 3>See I'm passed like that. Well, no, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm in my mid thirties. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>my friends got married in like their early thirties, so

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<v Speaker 3>I remember it was like back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I'm like, okay, we're starting to get into

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<v Speaker 3>the dwindling. Like not you know, it's not a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of weddings that are coming up. It's mostly like

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<v Speaker 3>kids stuff like oh my kid's birthday and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder when the second weddings wave hits.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming, like in your forties and fifties, and even then,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming that you do you probably don't do a

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<v Speaker 3>big shindg. You just kind of get married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's not the whole like registry. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>really sweet you know, I don't often peruse the wedding

0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 2>section of the New York Times, but someone posted this

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook because it's a really what's a rare black couple?

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<v Speaker 2>I think for the New York Times wedding section, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is a couple who are getting married. They're both

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<v Speaker 2>in their sixties, and the story is really sweet, not

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<v Speaker 2>only but it's not just these aren't your average people.

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<v Speaker 2>So the woman, her name is doctor Helene Gail. She

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<v Speaker 2>has been like a top executive at the Centers for

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<v Speaker 2>Disease Control and Prevention in the HIV AIDS epidemic. Like

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<v Speaker 2>she's cool with Bono, like Bono mentions her in speeches.

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<v Speaker 2>And then her husband used to be a former aide

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<v Speaker 2>to Senator Edward Kennedy. His name is Stephen Keith. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're like huge in public health. So they are

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<v Speaker 2>doing amazing things but their love stories that they met

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<v Speaker 2>in the seventies when they were both like medical students,

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<v Speaker 2>and they went their entire lives like thirty years, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working together, but never really like connecting. And eventually he

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<v Speaker 2>just like woke up and got his shit together and proposed.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, but I mean, in your sixteen I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to wait that long, superman. If you do, listen, don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was married twice and she but she was

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<v Speaker 2>more of like a feminist, like didn't want to get married,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really identify with her. Actually, I was like

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<v Speaker 2>hanging on to her every word in this quote because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know something about marriage, you know, I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and read it. The article says the question

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<v Speaker 2>of marriage was one that doctor Gail had to work

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<v Speaker 2>out for herself. She said, it's easy to be intellectual

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<v Speaker 2>about marriage. Is it an equal institution for women as

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<v Speaker 2>it is for men. Is it going to change my

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<v Speaker 2>life and my life options? Does it indicate I need

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<v Speaker 2>someone to complete me as a human being. Eventually, she

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<v Speaker 2>decided to let emotion rule. There is something about the

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<v Speaker 2>act that a public commitment does make a bond that

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<v Speaker 2>is different and special and creates a level of intimacy,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily that you need marriage four, but probably is

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<v Speaker 2>facilitated by marriage. And I was like, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's I don't know, I've sort of been overthinking

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>marriage a little bit because we're having this like a

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<v Speaker 2>third or fourth wave femine as a movement, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, no, you don't need to be married technically anymore,

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you can be financially in depend on your

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<v Speaker 2>own as a woman. But you know, just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like personally soul searching and asking myself, you know, why

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<v Speaker 2>am I actually getting married?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And what is it really going to mean?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's so funny because you said because this

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 3>I was driving because I remember when I first got

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<v Speaker 3>back because I'd know n Superman for a while and

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 3>I dated in between, and I remember like when I

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<v Speaker 3>really started dating him again, I wasn't in the best

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<v Speaker 3>place because.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ugh, you know, you've just been heard

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, this guy is a jerk.

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>That guy was a jerk. And then Superman kind of

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<v Speaker 3>came back in my life and I wasn't especially in

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning. I was like nervous, like is this just

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<v Speaker 3>the safe space to park, you know. And then yesterday

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I had just gone and see my dad and he

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, Superman. Of course he doesn't call

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 3>him Superman, but he said, you know, Superman. He spoke

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<v Speaker 3>to me about you. I was like, Daddy, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like, you know, I just want to let you know

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it's coming soon. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad's all excited and geeked up because he has

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 3>five daughters, so you know, he's at a point now

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 3>where he's like, please someone marry me. And as I

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 3>was driving home, I thought to myself, you know, like

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I really love Superman. Like it's not you know, it's

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 3>not a hurt place. You know, it's not a I'm

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 3>parking myself here. It's not like he's a really great guy,

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, just like I mean, I'm sure you think

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 3>about this about you know fiance boo that you're just like, yo,

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 3>this he's a really good person, not just a good

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 3>man like to me, just a good person. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just really blessed just even if he wasn't my man,

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 3>he's a good person, you know, and just it just.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought to myself, and I'm finally in a

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<v Speaker 3>place too where honestly, it was nice that my dad,

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, was happy about my choice now because remember

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 3>remember when we first started the podcast, they were not happy,

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 3>And I thought to myself, the truth of the matter is,

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't care that I'm finally in a place where

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like either way, if they were happy or not

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 3>happy or whatever, I've heard that I'm filing the place

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 3>where I'm literally living life on my own terms and

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part, you know, within reason. You know,

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm not like, you know, I'm going to walk the

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<v Speaker 3>streets naked, But I don't care. Like I'm making choices

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 3>based upon what I feel is right for me. I'm

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 3>not measuring them against what my parents think, what my

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 3>friends think. I'm finally like feeling fully grown and just

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 3>making choices just based upon what I feel is right.

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all about trusting yourself. I think we

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>doubt ourselves so much when we're younger, and you know,

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you well, you have the foresight of like seven years

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>on me. But I feel like I'm still in that

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 2>dowdy place, you know, or you feel like every decision

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>is so huge and so important, and you just like,

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 2>am I making the right decision and what if I'm

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>not and you know, and that trickles into relationships too.

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's all about you know, not to

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 2>sound all religious, but it's really about faith. You know,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever you think of as faith, you just have to

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>step out on it and hope. And I feel the

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 2>same way about fiancee boo. It's like when you look

0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>at someone and you see how they move in the world,

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, sometimes I just like step back and I'm like,

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 2>why you're so good?

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>How did I wind up with you? I'm a mean person.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that two people think I'm so.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess I'm nice, but honestly, yeah right,

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm like I could be petty as hell. I can

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 3>be like just like I get very I just get

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.719
<v Speaker 3>stressed out super easily. Like I'm literally like the nicest

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>person until i'm not. And then when I'm not, it's

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>like who is this monster? And like Superman is like

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 3>even when he's not in a good mood, he's still nice.

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who feeds the kids in the neighborhood? Like

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 3>just today he was like, oh, Man, like like our

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 3>watermelon had a freezer burn, and I was like, I.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't know why wait, what is that sentence? You just said?

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Our watermelon?

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>He took it out of refrigerator and it had freezer burn,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 3>like because he had it all the way in the

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 3>back and he was so okay, yeah he had it.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 3>So he was so disappointed and I asked why. He

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 3>was like I was gonna cut it up to the kids.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 5>In the back, and I'm like, who are you you know,

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 5>and he's just like such a sweetheart and like, yeah,

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 5>it's just it just it's made me like even just

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 5>to see, like you said, when you watch them navigating

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 5>the world, and I think that I'm really really, you know,

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 5>blessed and lucky, even if he was just my friend,

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and honestly, Mandy, when you get to I mean,

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 3>when I was because you're what are you twenty nine?

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be twenty nine and exactly two.

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Months so so I'm thirty six now, and at twenty nine,

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so much was shaken up because that was

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 3>like the time when I lost my job and I

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 3>lost everything and everything. I was questioning literally everything. But

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 3>now and I don't know if there's a magic age.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just assuming it's just there's not an age. It's

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.239
<v Speaker 3>just the moment where you get to a place and

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 3>you feel not that everything is perfect, because it's not.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 3>But I'm finally at a place where I feel like

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not looking for perfect I just want to do

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 3>my best and be my best and like not in comparison.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>To what people say. But I don't know how I

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>arrived at this point.

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie, just living and you know, so

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I hopefully, you know, everyone kind of gets to that place,

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>but I'm assuming you get to that place.

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's some twenty five.

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Year old who are at that place, and there's some

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 3>fifty year old who are just getting at that place.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 3>But I think as life evolves that you'll get to

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 3>that place where you're not like questioning every move. You

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 3>just understand that there's a flow to life and that

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>you're on the right path. And even the bad things

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 3>are good things. That's what I've learned. Like even the

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 3>stuff that's that's messed up, it's supposed to be and

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>it's supposed to bring me to the next level. So

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I even welcome my mistakes. I make so many, like

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>even that car crash. Don't you know they offered me

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 3>another car, I was like, oh, well that worked out,

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 3>and so like, yeah, so the flow of life is

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 3>really just amazing and beautiful and if you learn to

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of chill out and just rock with it and

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 3>just you know, do your best and try to be

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 3>your best, everything else works out.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Yep ah.

0:29:53.760 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 2>So that concludes our joint therapy session. Sorry for the

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>gushing about the booze. I'm sorry, I know, but.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody's like me too, you know sometimes it's like

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the gush. So are you gonna boost? Are you gonna

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>have breath?

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh? You broke up a little bit?

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you hear you? Hear me? Now?

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Okay.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna boost this week. Feeling in an optimistic mood.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>It's Monday, and it's going to be a short week

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>because this weekend I'm going on a trip, a trip

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>with my friends, my best friends, which maybe I'm realizing

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the last time we actually all get I don't want

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to jinx it. It may not be the last time,

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>but it kind of feels like it might be the

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 2>last time we all get together for our annual camping trip.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna boost one vacation time and time off

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>from work and two time off with friends when you

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>still can, because I you know, you read all these

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>studies about Americans not taking all their their PTO and

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand why, because I feel like you've

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>earned that time off and you're not impressing anybody by

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>staying and you know, wasting your days. So take your

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<v Speaker 2>days off. I'm MAXI mine out every year, but this

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<v Speaker 2>trip in particular. These are my my like core group

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of like rider die friends, and you know, we're all

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be each other's weddings, and we've all sort

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of we live in different states. I think we were

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 2>enforced three or four states now, and that's evolved over time.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 2>And that's the reason I feel like it's such an

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>important trip right now for us is because three of us, wait,

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>two of the couples in this group are getting married

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>in the next year. Okay, one of the couples is

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to be prego in the next year, and

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're buying houses, and you kind of get

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>the sense that, like, Okay, this is the this is

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the pivoting point, Like this is when we transition into

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, real life and it's not just about the

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>group of friends and we're not gonna be able to

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>just pick up and go to the Pocono's for a

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>week like we're doing right now. So I just really

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>want to cherish his time and enjoy it with them,

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>because who knows what's going to happen next year.

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 3>That's true because once babies come. I was just like

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>me and one of my bs, we used to always

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>go like at least the way once, like for an

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 3>extended weekend, and I was like asking her, She's like,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 3>did you forget to have a baby? I was like, oh, yeah,

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 3>my God's son.

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, can he come.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 3>She's like no, so yeah, no, definitely. That's an awesome

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 3>brown boost, And mine is actually really simple. My brown

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>boost is Jesse Williams.

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's nothing else to say. Just more of

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Jesse Williams. Please with the little uh grape juice and

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 3>soda on the side.

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>What is that chicken noodle soup?

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, episoda on the side.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he is the chicken noodle soup to my soda

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>on the side. And I just want to just more

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 3>of him. I cannot get enough. So that's my brown boost.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>He's such a pleasant picture to imagine in your head. Yes,

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I think he uses his beauty for good. To be honest, Yes,

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like, and he's written about

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and we've talked about the European beauty standards in the

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>black community. And he is light skinned, biracial, blue eyes,

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and I can identify a lot with that with him

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>because I'm light skin, I have green eyes, and you

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>almost like you want to be involved in in all

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>the you know, exciting movements and like Black pride that's

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>happening right now. But you also like he also acknowledges like, hey,

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I have been given this genetic situation and it puts

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>me in a different place than a lot of people,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of people's minds, and he like acknowledges that.

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.239
<v Speaker 2>And I always respected him for calling that out and

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>acknowledging that little piece of privilege he has. Yeah, you know,

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>being lighter skin with you know, lighter complexion and stuff.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>But I think he and to the same end, I

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>think he really uses that. Like people like him. They

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>think he's hot and sexy, which he is, and that

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>means they pay attention to him, and that can be

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>a negative thing, but he's also he's sort of like

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>made it a positive.

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, like you can't help go ahead.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Like you think I'm beautiful, great, but listen to what

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I have to say. You may not like it.

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I love because you're right.

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 3>He gets invited to some of these conservative like panels

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 3>and like TV shows and news shows that might not

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>otherwise have like a Nate. Who's the guy Nate, the

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 3>one who did uh? He did the new movie about

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh My mind is just a blanket everyway. He has

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<v Speaker 3>this new movie about the slave Revolution, like.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Tucker, Tucker, Yes, I know what you're talking.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 3>So he's very handsome too, but he's like just like

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, he looks like typical black man, you.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Know, not yes the movie about Not Turner.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so he's very handsome, but like a Jesse Williams

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 3>is the type of he has a type of looks

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 3>that like across all races people can acknowledge like okay.

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>And as a result, yes, doors definitely open and he

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 3>uses you know, and I'm glad that he uses that

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 3>for good. And it's like, yes, you have me invited here,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 3>but I'm about to read you like like no, like

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 3>no other And.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Just to be clear, so we're not drugged. It is

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the movie is about not turning the slave by Nate Parker, Yes,

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the director.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and he's fine, fine, fine, I have.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Just even seen a picture of him.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, child, make it your make it your

0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 3>business to google.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I know him. What's he been in Yeah, he's been Yeah, he's.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Been in movies before.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 3>But he's just like you know, I like, like, I mean,

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 3>my preference, like Superman is super chocolate. I love, love love,

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 3>dark skin, high cheekbones. Nate's not really like he's more chocolate,

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, like a milk chocolate. But yeah, I

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 3>love I'm hungry. Do we get any letters this week?

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 3>If you do have letters, or you do have a

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 3>financial question or career question, you know, you can always

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 3>tweet us at the BA podcast. You can find us

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 3>on Facebook as Brown Ambition, and you can email us

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>at Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, come on the.

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<v Speaker 3>BA podcast at gmail dot com.

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Nope, Conic, what is this Brian Ambition Podcast at gmail

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 2>dot com?

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Have we listened? Have we done this question yet? From?

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Does she want us to use her name? We'll just

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 2>call her I really feel bad because shorthand of her

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 2>name is fatty, but can't call her that.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>So let's call her, let's.

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Call her slim Slim.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so here's the question, and forgive me if I

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 2>repeat of repeating myself. Okay, she says, Hi, Mandy and Tiffany, Hi,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I am an entrepreneur. This is my second year in business,

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 2>and revenue is growing, and the next month client work

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>will bring in about twenty three thousand dollars, not to

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>mention smaller incoming client work. I want to allocate this

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<v Speaker 2>money in a way that helps me get ahead. My

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>concerns are how much to save my save toward living

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 2>expenses and in my emergency fund, and how aggressive I

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>should be toward debt pay down. I have an old

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 2>personal credit card bill that's high that I've been paying

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 2>down and not adding expenses to. My instinct is to

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>be aggressive and paying down the credit card, but I

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 2>want to be sure I have enough money to cover

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.919
<v Speaker 2>my living expenses if things get lean, I already keep

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 2>my expenses. My personal expense is low. Any ideas and

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>how I should consider allocating this money or how I

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>can approach debt to pay down? No, to pay down

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>my debt and increase my savings.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first, congratulations two years and you know you're making

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>good money a month.

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, congrats. That's a good question.

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what I do because I'm kind of

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 3>similar in that I don't have old credit card debt,

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm credit card debt free. The only debt I

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 3>do have is my student loan debt for my masters.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 3>So what I decided is I really live, especially as

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 3>an entrepreneur, I don't live by a mouth. I live

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 3>by percentages because I never necessarily know.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>What I'm going to make month a month.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I kind of have a general idea, like

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<v Speaker 3>a range, and so I have allocated five percent of

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>my income toward debt paydown. So what that means is

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.959
<v Speaker 3>I give my debt automatically.

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I have it.

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 3>My bank automatically gives a minimum every month, So no

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 3>matter what, you know, my student loans get their four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred bucks or whatever it is on like the fifteenth

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 3>of the month, and then depending on what I make,

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I give an additional payment at the end of the month,

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<v Speaker 3>a five percent of what I made that of what

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I made that month, just to like, So that's my

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 3>way of allocating without like overly aggressively just paying down debt,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 3>and then I set aside, so twenty percent of my

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>income goes toward investing. Ten percent of that twenty is

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 3>retirement and the other ten percent is investing for wealth.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 3>So that's I call that my me money. And I

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 3>take twenty percent of my income and do that. Thirty

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 3>percent of my income I set aside for taxes because

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:31.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, you don't have no business, but Uncle Sam

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 3>takes it, you know, And like I said, five percent

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 3>for debt, and I like to give ten percent, like

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 3>I set aside ten percent to donate, and so those

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 3>percentages come after I set aside my my like after

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 3>my expenses and stuff.

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like I'm like, oh, off.

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<v Speaker 3>The top except for taxes off the top, unless you know,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I set aside my taxes before basically everything except for

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 3>business spending. So that's what I would probably do. Just

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 3>work out some percentages for yourself. I probably would set

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 3>aside ten percent, maybe five percent for debt, and then

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe ten percent for savings, if not more, and just

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 3>start chopping up. Like I like to play with my percentages.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>So I do a percentages for you know, three or

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 3>four months, and as I start to make more, I

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 3>increase those percentages because I don't need as much.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I save a really aggressively.

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't you know, I make really good money a

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 3>month now with the BUDGETISA, after like five years of

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 3>toiling away. But I set aside a large chunk for

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 3>myself because by four I want to be financially independent,

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 3>and you know, so I live simply now so I

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 3>can achieve that goal. So that's what I would suggest,

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 3>set aside five percent on top of your your your

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<v Speaker 3>minimum payment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well here's my question to you. So if you had

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<v Speaker 2>a she doesn't tell us how much is on this

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>credit card, but if you had a credit card with

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 2>let's say, like ten thousand dollars on it, with like

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen percent which seems about average fifteen to twenty

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 2>percent interest rate, do you think you'd still kind of

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>like just let that sit there and only put five

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>percent or do you? For me, personally, I get stressed

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>out by having credit card like debt, and so for me,

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I was always more on the And I think it's

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 2>really a personal thing and it comes down to your

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 2>your like the way your your mentality around money, and

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>if having debt is going to weigh on you at

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>night and you can't sleep, which it does to me.

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I was always leaning toward more of the aggressive with

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>by you know, saving still, which I think is important

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>to have money on the side so that you know,

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, something happens, you can always lean on that savings.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 2>But when you have that crazy high interest rate and

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know this credit card is is has

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 2>been you know, on your on your docket for a while. Yeah,

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I've always been toward more of like the you know,

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>pay whatever you possibly can. That's that you know that

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you have left over toward that to that credit card.

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>All what you can do.

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Too, is like if you let's just say you have

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>ten thousand dollars and you split it up into four

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 3>payments of twenty five hundred dollars a piece, and right,

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 3>so you could do that over four months and say, okay,

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna save, I'm gonna do something of that, and

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna in four months, since I'm not actually using

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 3>this credit card, in four months, i should be credit

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 3>card debt free.

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>So you can kind of do that too. And if

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't want.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 3>To do the monthly percentage, just decide when do I

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 3>really want to be done with this and set aside

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 3>a chunk of money that you're going to send monthly.

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I probably wouldn't do it all in like one month,

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>because you want them, especially as a business owner. You

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 3>know you might be doing great now and then in

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<v Speaker 3>two months the thing that you do, you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>no longer relevant, and you don't want to have like

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<v Speaker 3>you're just debt free, but you don't have any money

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<v Speaker 3>to fall back on totally.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know what next month is going to bring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and this may be your first month when things are final.

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>It's just like, you know, you're feeling successful and you're

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<v Speaker 2>making money, but this is all new and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning, and you don't want to put all your

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<v Speaker 2>eggs in your credit card basket and have no cash

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.399
<v Speaker 2>left orr at the end of it. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 2>starting from like what you what you said, setting an

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<v Speaker 2>end date and then working backward how much you need

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<v Speaker 2>to actually pay on the card to get to that

0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>end date is a good idea. They're all right, slim, slim,

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<v Speaker 2>not batty. If you guys have questions again, you can

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<v Speaker 2>email us that Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Com dot com. Know, I gotta do that every time

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<v Speaker 1>I do. You're waiting for it. I know you will,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Time for all we do is when when win, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what. I don't know the second line, so don't ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what is you're winning for this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of a win, I'm going to do a book recommendation? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in. I'm doing audiobooks now that my commute is

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<v Speaker 2>hellishly long. I'm trying to disilver lining. Is that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>listening to audiobooks now. I this is a book called Grit.

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<v Speaker 1>Get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have. I like it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it?

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<v Speaker 1>What is what?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it about?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to buy myself some times, like, oh,

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>look up the whole title of the book.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 3>You're like, yeah, it's really good. As I look up.

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<v Speaker 2>Grit the Power of Passions and the God I need

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<v Speaker 2>to go to sleep. Grit the Power of Passion and Perseverance.

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 2>It only has been out since May, but it's by

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<v Speaker 2>Angela Duckworth, who has been the recipient of a little

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<v Speaker 2>award called the MacArthur Genius Grant MacArthur Genius Award, which

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<v Speaker 2>ton of Hasse Codes won. Lynn Manuel Miranda one like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of amazing people. And if you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the McCarthy, the MacArthur Award, you don't even get, Like,

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't apply for it, you don't ask to be nominated.

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Like a super secret board of the most elite people

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<v Speaker 2>in a dozen different fields gets together and they like,

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 2>pluck you out from obscurity and they say that you

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<v Speaker 2>get the award. So anyway, that's awesome. So she's super smart.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>But the book itself was really good. Sweat. I like

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it because it's about so it's called the grit, the

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 2>power or passion and perseverance. It's not just like a

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 2>book on how people become successful. It talks about what

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<v Speaker 2>separates someone who's successful from someone who's not successful. And

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Angela has done years and years of research on this,

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<v Speaker 2>looking at everyone from West Point cadets to those National

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<v Speaker 2>Spelling Bee champion kids, to college graduates to high school

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>students and finds that grit is what sets people apart.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not just your talent or your potential. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to withstand anything and keep and keep going. And

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<v Speaker 2>it really resonated with me especially well not just from

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<v Speaker 2>a like a career kind of aspect, which I think

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>is good too, because it just shows you that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't always personally, I you know, covering

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<v Speaker 2>finance and being a financial reporter, I know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>always feel like I'm the smartest person financially or that

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I know all the answers financially. But I've always sort

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<v Speaker 2>of felt like, you know, a little scrap and like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get the answer and I may not

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 2>know everything, but I'll figure it out. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what she's sort of talking about. And I and I,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I highly recommend it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a good book, and it's a good reminder

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<v Speaker 2>that you you may not be the smartest or the fastest.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I was never the I'm not the best athlete,

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>but I've done a half marathon and I've done a triathlon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because you know, I was always the biggest girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm the biggest girl in my cross

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>my CrossFit class. I'm the slowest girl in my CrossFit class.

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>But I'm the only one who's come to every class

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<v Speaker 2>like it's all the time, and like I keep going

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.919
<v Speaker 2>because I get really I get really stuck on these

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<v Speaker 2>goals of mine, and you keep going and it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>that there's actually a word I can call that now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Great grit right if you know. It reminds me of

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 3>my dad. Like he was the youngest son of the

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<v Speaker 3>last wife. My grandfather had I think like five wives

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 3>and Nigerian that was totally cool back in that those days.

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 3>And his mother was the last wife. He was the

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 3>youngest son. I think some number seven or eight. So like,

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, just to put in perspective, the first son

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 3>is obviously the most important.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>He's the heir. The second son is despair. Everybody else

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>is like extra mouths to feed. So imagine the youngest

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>So he wasn't really given much attention or just even

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.879
<v Speaker 1>just his father didn't invest much in him. His mother did.

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>But my dad is little on.

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<v Speaker 3>The short side. He hates to sit out, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so glad he does not listen to this. He's a

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 3>little on the short side. And he's smart, like really smart.

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 3>But really, when I see from where he came in Nigeria,

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<v Speaker 3>like literally at sixteen, he built his own home for

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 3>lack of a better word, for himself and like like

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 3>right outside his father's compound, like like you know, like

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 3>with like just built his own home. Just imagine what

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 3>that looks like in Nigeria and somehow got all the

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<v Speaker 3>way to America to succeed, not only succeed, but thrive,

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 3>master's degree, undergraduate, just five kids, all college educated. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's when I really, when I look at him, it's

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 3>that grit that you're talking about. He is one of

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>these tenacious I don't know how we're gonna do it,

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 3>what we're gonna do. I don't know how I'm going

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to keep doing it, and I'm going to keep going.

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 3>And my dad does not let go when he has

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 3>like something in mind. And so I actually really want

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 3>to read that book because I love, Like, if there's

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 3>anything that I hope that I inherited from him other

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 3>than his temper, because lord knows when I get mad

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 3>that I hope it's that grit of his because he

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.439
<v Speaker 3>is I can only imagine if he would have grown

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 3>up with like and started a little higher, you know,

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 3>because yeah, he's just from he fard. I mean, he

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 3>has literally gone to the moon, you know, like not

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 3>literally because that's not what that means, but you know

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 3>what I mean in comparison to where he's come from

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 3>to where he is now whoa you know, like a

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 3>hundred paces you know. So yeah, so you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>in honor of you sharing a book, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to do a book too, because I'm actually reading

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 3>a new book and it's called What I Know for

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<v Speaker 3>Sure by Oprah Winfy Winfrey. And Oprah has a magazine

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 3>and this is like her column in her magazine, what

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I Know for Sure. So these are like a collection

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 3>of all of not all, but like a few years

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 3>of her column and it's just literally just that she

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 3>would just share whatever she was feeling that she knew

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 3>for sure at that moment in time in her life.

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>And it's just really it's like typical Oprah, but it's

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.760
<v Speaker 3>just I needed some I don't know, like Oprah provides

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>sometimes that like you could do anything, you know. Oprah's

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 3>like the ultimate cheerleader. And so yeah, it's just a

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 3>great little it's an easy little read. It's very uplifting.

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 3>It's not I'm not rushing through it. I'm just kind

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 3>of reading it as I need that feeling of Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 3>You've got it, You're okay, you know, everything's going to

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 3>work out. And so it's just a nice book and

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 3>it just it's like soothing to the soul. So if

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 3>you need a little soothing, I would highly recommend What

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I Know for Sure by Oprah Winfrey. I have it

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 3>on my kindle, but they also have obviously, like you know,

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 3>the regular book version too.

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to get the audiobook. I miss Oprah's voice.

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if you go to Amazon, which I love,

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 3>they actually have like a nice chunky section where she's

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:03.240
<v Speaker 3>like you hear her reading and you're like, oh, Oprah, yes, yes, Oprah.

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I haven't really like I haven't watched any of the

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 2>own shows or any of oprah stuff like Super Soul Sunday.

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't have cable, but I haven't. I

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like I've been like Oprah to pray for a

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>long time. Depraved, deprived.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>We're both like just words.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, I'm gonna stop talking now and just call it.

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 2>This is the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And if you guys have any really great books,

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 3>please please please share.

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let us know what's on your bookshelves or in

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.799
<v Speaker 2>your ears, because.

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I honestly, like I I love reading. It's just to me.

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Reading and nighttime walking are the things that just like

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 3>they're like my decompression. It's my thing that I love

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 3>to do that brings me to like center and brings

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 3>me peace. And so I love a good book.

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>So I can't even think of a segway. I'm sorry, my.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Brain is so.

0:49:58.280 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 3>On that note.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna let you go, and like I said, share your

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:08.280
<v Speaker 3>books with us. Tweet us at the BA podcast, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 3>us at Brown Ambition, email us at us at Brown

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<v Speaker 3>Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at God, I thank you for picking up the flock.

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<v Speaker 2>I am on a different planet right now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mandy go get your rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Night y'all, like nine nights, Bye bye