1 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: We should open with we never say this is Brown Ambition. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Should we do that? 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm like Brown, we never like you know it time 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: like the present. 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: And we're back. 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: So I was just telling Mandy, we never say like, hey, 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: you're listening to Brown Ambition. I mean, do you guys 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: care or do you kind of know? 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: I feel like if you downloaded the if you subscribe 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: to the podcast and you have to push play and 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: you see the logo, you might know it's Brown Ambition. 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: For those of you guys who've like stumbled home drunk 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: and just started listening, this is Brown Ambition. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: And I'm Tiffany and Mandy. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: I will be your co host Mandy and Tiffany. Yes, 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: you know what I don't you know what I want 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: to say off the bat, because I was just going 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: our inbox and we have so many sweet notes from listeners, 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: like at least a dozen from the past couple of 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: weeks alone, and I just wanted to say, we really 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: appreciate the emails. It's so nice of you. What we'd 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: appreciate even more is if you could turn those emails, 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: just copy and paste them and put them on iTunes. 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: Oh yes, just a simple, a simple way to do 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: good in your podcasting immunity because iTunes reviews are like 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: currency in the podcast world, and that just means that 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: other people like you can find the show and enjoy 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: the show. And we live in a yelp world and 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: people want to know, you know, what others think of 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 2: something before they try it out. So it would definitely 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: help us out if you guys, could you know, kindly 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: send all the emails you want, but a nice little 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: iTunes review on top of that would just be so sweet. 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: Be your best friend, best friend, that's my best friend, 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: that's my best friend. 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just pass out free best friend cards exactly everybody, 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: and yeah, send us. Maybe we should do another giveaway 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: that worked out pretty good the first time. 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, I mean it's not ready yet, but 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: I do have these DreamCatcher t shirts that I'm making 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: and they're so cute, but they're not quite finished yet. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: But when they are, we can do that as a giveaway. 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: Who doesn't love a T shirt? Yeah, So, when you 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: leave a review, take a screenshop and go ahead and 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: email it to brown MBIs Podcasts at gmail dot com. 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: And when we come up with the sweet giveaway idea, 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: we will we'll have to do it some sorlver drawing 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: or something. 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I'll be fine. 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: I love giving stuff away me too. 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: I love a good giveaway. 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Oh lord, Okay, let's get home with the show. 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: So this is kind of well, you know, I was 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: gonna say this, but I'm like, I may or may 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: not have regifted a really great gift to one of 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: my VFF and she was so convinced that I bought it, 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: and I didn't tell. 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: How I did it. 59 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: I was like, what should I do? Should I just 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: let her rock out? So it was a it was 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: a a Kindle fire. I'd want it at FINCNN remember 62 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: Finconn last year, like I got an award or whatever, 63 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: uh huh, And it gave me like this awesome kindle fire, 64 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: And but I already have a kindle and I have 65 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: a laptop. So I was just kind of like, I 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: kept it in the packaging. I didn't even open it 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: because I thought, like Supergirl has an iPad, Superman doesn't care, 68 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: like he's not really tech, mister tech guy. And so 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: everybody who I kind of was thinking about giving it 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: to at the time when I first got it, it 71 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: just didn't make sense. And then her birthday passed not 72 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: too long ago, and I was like, oh, I should 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: give it to dust friend because I called her and 74 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: I said, do you have an iPad or Kendall? She 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: said no. But then when I gave it to her, 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: she was so overwhelmed, and I realized quickly, I don't 77 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: you know. I didn't think that to say, oh no, no, 78 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: I'm regifting. But I'm like, do you tell. 79 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: People when you read gifts? 80 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: Because now I feel bad, But I'm like, it's still 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: a really good gift. 82 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: Well, does your best friend listen to the show. 83 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: No, but I'm sure people who know her, dude, don't 84 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: tell her. 85 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: She knows, don't go. 86 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, she's still gonna be geeked up. 87 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: But she was like so like overwhelmed, and I was like, 88 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: what's the idea? 89 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, cause she. 90 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Knows, like like you know, I'm like notoriously like cheap, 91 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: so I think she was like, I was like, he's 92 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: so excited. It's just a candle far Oh. 93 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: She thinks I bought this. I mean it is brand new. 94 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think you have to tell something. 95 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: You wouldn't tell her if you had bought it, like 96 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: how much it costs. I don't I don't know. I 97 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: feel like I'm leaning towards no. 98 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So if you guys know bff, I have two 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: and you don't know which one it is. So I'm 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: not gonna say, but if you see her with a 101 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: new kindel fire, allow her to enjoy and to think. 102 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: That I purchased it. It was not intentional. It was 103 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: just like it was just I knew that she would 104 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: enjoy it, and I was like, she care it to 105 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: be f f. 106 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. There is that thing though of like you know, 107 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: when you give someone a gift, not that money means that, 108 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: it means more, but it's I mean, as long as 109 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: the gift is thoughtful, like you thought she'd really enjoy it, 110 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: and clearly she does. It'd be one thing if like 111 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: you were you know, it's like, oh, I have this 112 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: free scarf and your friend lives in Florida and just 113 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: like give it to her for birthday, you know. 114 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she's a big reader. That's why I was like, ooh, 115 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: she would love it. 116 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could have easily sold out for I 117 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: don't know how much it's worth, Like that's just one 118 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks or something and you. 119 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Do No, you're right. I could have You're right. 120 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: See, Mandy, I'm just here to affirm every all the 121 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: choices you make. 122 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: How good of that? So we have to talk about 123 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the BET Awards. 124 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: Yes we do, but really, just to be completely transparent, 125 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: I did not watch it because I haven't been in 126 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: a place in my life where I can watch an 127 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: entire music awards show in a long time, I know. 128 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: But I watched the clips usually, and usually I'm the 129 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: clips the next day. 130 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: Girl but best friend was like, hey, I was on 131 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: my way to go for a walk and I called her. 132 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: And she's like, what do you do? 133 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like about to start with this walk so 134 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: I can be snatched for Essence Fest And she was like, no, 135 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: come over and watch the BET Awards instead, and I 136 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: was like, okay, So I missed like the first hour. 137 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: But it was just fun to hang out. 138 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm not an award show person at all, but 139 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: it was actually really good. 140 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: I heard it was good, But I feel like the 141 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: BET Awards, like you're not really there to see who 142 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: wins the awards, do you know what I mean? It's 143 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: more of like the entertainment. The host I saw that 144 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: Tracy Anderson or not Tracy Anderson. What is happening Tracy 145 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: Ellis Ross thesting together again? 146 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I thought you mixed them up because 147 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: you blended their. 148 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: Name, did I? No? I think Tracy Anderson is that 149 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: like workout coach that Madonna and Tracy Ellis Ross also 150 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: use I digress. 151 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: No, but she was she was great. 152 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: Well, Tracy alis Ross is always great, and Anthony Anderson 153 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: was funny. But you know, it just was because BT 154 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: is not exactly known for keeping a classy but it 155 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: was so well done and the way they honored Prince, 156 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: this was the best tribute I'd seen, just period, across 157 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: the board, not just BT, just in general like giving 158 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: tribute to an artist. Because what they did was that 159 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: everymusical selection there was a Prince tribute like folded in, 160 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: you know, for the most part. So it wasn't like, oh, 161 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: just this one long montage of Prince Vince, Prince, let's 162 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: go about our business. It was like everyone who sang 163 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: a song gave tribute, usually in some way, and it 164 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: was just really nice. It was so well done. I 165 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: was like, look at bat growing up. 166 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: You knew there was a lot of pressure on them though, yeah, 167 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: especially after what award show was it that happened right 168 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: after Prince passed and in Madonna Bond Yes, oh Madonna 169 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: was Stevie and everyone was like, bet you better come, 170 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: like put up or shut. 171 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: Up, yup, and they honestly they put up. It was 172 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: like I said, like my favorite musical selections. Beyonce killed 173 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: it with Kenchrick Lamar in the beginning. Jennifer Hudson laid, 174 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean her voice is just like, you know, 175 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: genius anyway, but she just was incredible Janelle Money, although 176 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: vocally I wasn't there with her necessarily, but her energy, 177 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: like she know, she's got like that great dance thing 178 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: that she does, and so she that was awesome. 179 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Butlile who he was Prince and Carnate like, so, who 180 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: is so blod? 181 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: You know you must be my soul sister, soul sister, hey, sis, 182 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: you never heard that song? Well you still have not 183 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: heard it because that's not how he sounds. But he 184 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: came out like maybe like I want to say, ten 185 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: to fifteen years ago, maybe longer, but when he was 186 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: part of like the neo soul movement, remember when like 187 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: di'angelo and all that, like yes, yeah, yeah, so he 188 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: was part of like the neo soul movement. But he 189 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 3: What I love about Blau is that very similar to Prince. 190 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: He is a classically trained musician. He has perfect pitch. 191 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: He plays a number of instruments, and he's got that 192 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: same rangers Prince, like that super high falsetto and then 193 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: that super low like baritone voice and he. 194 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: Redid I forget what song? 195 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: It was a difficult Prince song and he killed it. 196 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: I mean he sounded like Prince even like rolled on 197 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: the ground like Prince. He he was Prince. And everybody 198 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: was like, yes. 199 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't watched that clip. I need to watch 200 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: the Prince tribute. 201 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah it was good. Yeah, honestly, everything was just really good. 202 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: I mean I was like, look at Beyonce, because you know, 203 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: Beyonce usually doesn't do the BET Awards. 204 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: All the headlines I saw today, including the front page 205 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: of Yahoo, was about Jesse Williams's speech. 206 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, oh. 207 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: I forgot about that, just to find himself to his 208 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: beautiful wife. 209 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: But his speech, did you listen? Did you watch it? 210 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: Later? 211 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: The clip I watched, and and well I read the 212 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: transcript first and then I watched would you think? I 213 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: thought it was really poetic, like that's the only way. 214 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: It was almost like spoken word. We know Jesse Williams 215 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: as the beautiful face on Gray's Anatomy. Yes, I still 216 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: watch how many years like twelve thousand years later anyway, 217 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: but he's always been very vocal and outspoken during the 218 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: Black Lives movement move matter or sorry, black Lives Matter 219 00:09:51,040 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: movement since four AM anyway. Yeah, so it's it was 220 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you talk, said yeah, without joke, but. 221 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was very poetic. 222 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: It was there were some things that he said that 223 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: just especially the last few lines he said something like that, 224 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: like you know, uh that you you what did he say? 225 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: We may be magic, but that doesn't mean that we're 226 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: not real? 227 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they we're not humans. 228 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: That was really no yeah to that effect. 229 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was no something that he said. He said, 230 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: you you put us on like clothes and then discard 231 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: us like the rhymes of strange fruit. I mean I 232 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: was like the so like I used to do like 233 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: spoken word like all that yes, yes, yes, back in college, 234 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: and I was like yes, like that old Tiffany was 235 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: from twenty one was like just like snapping my fingers 236 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: and like just sipping my tea. It was amazing they 237 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: had done some Do you hit that feedback feedback? 238 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: No, I don't hear anything. 239 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry I heard feedback, But no, they'd done 240 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: like kind of like a little clip leading up to Jesse. 241 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: I did not know that he was an Africana studies 242 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: professor at one point. It totally makes sense that he 243 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: was a teacher and the Africanda studies professor. 244 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: Did you see his. 245 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see his father in the audience, like 246 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 3: tearing up? 247 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know have his father. 248 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like his father and his mother. So 249 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: Jesse is biracial, his mother is white, his father is black, 250 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: and his father and his mom they just looked so proud, 251 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: and I thought I saw tears in his father's eyes, 252 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: like look him all, I have taught him good. 253 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: You know. 254 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, we didn't even say he was there accepting an 255 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: award for Humanitarian of the Year. That's the whole reason 256 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: he wasn't just like you know, oh yeah up there, 257 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: just you know, grabbing the mic from somebody, and he 258 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: also runs, I'm gonna I want to I'm want to 259 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: talk about the group he runs. Oh, it's called the 260 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: Advancement Project. We've talked about him a couple of times 261 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: on the podcast before The Advancement Project is I believe 262 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: mostly about I don't know. I'm not even gonna try 263 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: and pretend like I know exactly what it's about. But 264 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: there's one there's one thing he does forcifically. There was 265 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: like a documentary series or something that was all about 266 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: black men in America. That's right, Okay, got. 267 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: Something right that like just basically shifting the portrayal of 268 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: black men. And it's I think it's a docuseries, but 269 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: I just they showed like clips of it on. 270 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: The BT woards like while they were honoring him. 271 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 272 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he got a bigger standing ovation than any 273 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: other artists, like like you know who's saying or anything else, 274 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: Like he really moved the crowd. He talked about how 275 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: yesterday or the day or today would be tame or 276 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: Rice's fourteenth birthday, and that you know that sanction that 277 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: they did a that paid public servants did a sanctioned 278 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: drive by on a twelve year old playing alone in 279 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: the park alone. How can you say that we've advanced? 280 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my goodness. 281 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: You don't hear a language like that in the news. 282 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: You don't you know, accidentally discharged his weapon or you know, 283 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: not a sanctioned drive by, which is essentially what it was. 284 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: Like. 285 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: He's not mincing words at all. 286 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: If you haven't listened to it. It's like mandatory viewing, honestly. 287 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: And you know it's important when like he's making headlines 288 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: and not Beyonce, not Jennifer Hudson, not the Prince Tribute, 289 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: Jesse Williams, Ye anything, Oh did you? Justin Timberlake got 290 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: in a little bit of trouble afterward. 291 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: But he didn't say anything wrong. I thought he just 292 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 3: said I'm inspired. That's what I thought he said. 293 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: Well, he responded to someone who tweeted at him, saying, Okay, 294 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: so does this mean you're gonna stop appropriating our culture? 295 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: Because you know, people have issues with Justin Timberlake and 296 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Robin Thick and being like white dudes singing R and B. 297 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 2: I find it really hard to be upset at Justin 298 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: Timberlake because I've loved him for so long. 299 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm sorry, I'm like sorry, I think. 300 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: There's rude enough for everybody, and Justin Timberlake. 301 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like, I'm actually gonna give him a past 302 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: like I always I mean, I grew up at that 303 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: time where I was like just that. 304 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has like the Black card of passes, like 305 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: the Black visa or what is it, the Black AMX. 306 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: You can get it unlimited for your lifetime. He has that. 307 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: He has that pass card anyway, but he responded to 308 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: them saying oh sorry. He was like, first of all, 309 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: he said, sweet heart, which is my pet peeve. Southerners 310 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: do that when they're being condescending, they call you sweetheart. 311 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: He was like, sweetheart, I'm just trying to say that 312 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I think we're all one human race and something to 313 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: that effect. You know. He might as well have put 314 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: hashtag all Lives Matter at the end of it, basically. 315 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: But then he like walked back and apologized. I just 316 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: feel like, this is again a moment where it's like, 317 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: no one, it's your moment to speak and sometimes just 318 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: let just let us have our moment without chiming in, 319 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 320 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: Yes, wasn't there there was a video, this awesome video 321 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: of a Muslim woman speaking on the same panel as 322 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Glorious Steinem and I can't remember where it was but 323 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: they asked basically like what can people do? And he 324 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: said and she said, and it was just so appropriate 325 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: because Glorious Sinum was literally literally passing her the mic 326 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: to speak. And she said, that's what you can do 327 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: that allow us to tell our story past the mic, 328 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Like you cannot decide for us or speak for us. 329 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: Allow us to speak for ourselves. And I think sometimes 330 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: that I mean And like I said, I didn't have 331 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: a problem with his original tweet justin Timberlake, but I 332 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: get what you mean. Sometimes you're just like, yeah, now 333 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: it's not just sh yeah some. 334 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Part you know, you want to talk about allies. The 335 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: best thing you can do is an ally. Sometimes is 336 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: no one. 337 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Touch Yeah, you need to shut it. That's right. 338 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: Hashtag passed the mic. 339 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Yes, hashtag passed the mic. 340 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, is anything? Did anything else happen in life? Oh? 341 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones? This has absolutely nothing to do with finance. 342 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: If you guys came for finance topics today. 343 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: This is not the Yeah it's gonna happen. 344 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones was last night. I know you don't 345 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: watch it, but the finale was epic. If anyone wants 346 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: to swap notes, feel free to tweet me at Mandy 347 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: Woodruff or email us at Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail 348 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: dot com. I have a lot of thoughts on the 349 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: show this is. This show was increasingly becoming like the 350 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: feminist icon, I feel like, because I mean, it's a 351 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: medieval show, and I can't really think of another period 352 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: of time when women were more like victimized and objectified. 353 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: Maybe all the times in history, but anyway, this period 354 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: is specifically it's all about like corsets and wenches and 355 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: rape and like using women as pawns and like just 356 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: make me an air, you know that kind of stuff. 357 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: But this, like and this author, he's he's like this big, 358 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: like Santa Claus looking white dude from like Phoenix, Arizona, 359 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: and he's made some bad ass like feminist characters we have, 360 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: and even like even Beyonce if you don't, if you don't, 361 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: if you want a reason to watch this, Beyonce watches 362 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: it too because she paid tribute to Kalisi, the Queen 363 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: of Dragons. Anyway, like five of the major and i'd 364 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: say prominent characters are all women right now. And this 365 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: is a show that started out like majority males six 366 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: seasons ago. 367 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: I think that Superman and I we were talking about it. 368 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: I was like, he's like, me and him are like eighty. 369 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: He's like, have you heard of Game of Thrones? I 370 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: was like, I have, I have. I think I want 371 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: to get into it, and so I don't know, I 372 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: think that we might, you know, because we tend to 373 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: do that like wait forever and then like just like 374 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: watch like one weekend or like a week and then 375 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: we'll just sit and watch it together as a family. 376 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: So well, obviously Supergirl can't watch. 377 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, it's a little, uh, it's very vulgar. 378 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: It's not just the sex and the in the the language. 379 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: It's like just the violence, the sheer violence, and the 380 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: blood and goods. Oh and the zombies. 381 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: Zombies, and yeah, I'm confused. 382 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: Don't get too caught up in the zombie aspect. It 383 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: can kind of turn you off. But it's interest. It's good. Okay, 384 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: it's scary, but good. The zombies are there. They're like 385 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: they're called white Walkers. 386 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I think I've heard of them. 387 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: Don't read the books either, another just don't do it. 388 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: I did it because I'm a masochist. But you don't. 389 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: You don't have to read the books. To enjoy the show. Okay, okay, yeah, 390 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm jealous. You guys get to start from scratch. 391 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: I know, we'll see, we'll see how long I laugh 392 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: because I usually have like I end up being like 393 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: I'm bored to this. 394 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: Oh I do kind of have a financial topic. 395 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 396 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: I sat down with my wedding budget this week and 397 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: my my nice little multi sheet spreadsheet and Google docs. 398 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but my wedding is like 399 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: twice as expensive as I thought it was going to be. 400 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: You know what happened. 401 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: I know what happened. 402 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: What to do? 403 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm bad at math. 404 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: I know life happened to Carrie Broadshow, but she's like, 405 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: I just want a simple wedding and then all of 406 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: a sudden, you're gonna have a bird in your hair. 407 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: But this is a simple wedding. Like I'm literally I 408 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: have chosen the least expensive option for all the vendors 409 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: I can think of, and we're not even halfway done. 410 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: I'm really just estimating, and I'm my original budget. I'll 411 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: just say it was about fifteen thousand, and it's looking 412 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: more like twenty seven thousand. If my calculations are correct. 413 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: That cannot happen. I can't help and can it can't happen. 414 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know because I'm still like Superman 415 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: the other day was like, what's your ring size? 416 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: Anyway? Just out of the blue, and I looked at 417 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: him like, don't play. 418 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: With can you just get it together? I know, stop 419 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: asking questions. He has all the information he needs. 420 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm gonna take batters into 421 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: my own hand. And I called best friend best not 422 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: kindle best friend, my other best friend. I said, look, 423 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: best friend, my ring size is a six. 424 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you this place that was highly reviewed 425 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: on Yelp in the Diamond District in New York. And 426 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: what you're gonna do is you're gonna call Superman and say, look, 427 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: cut the shit, and you're gonna take him to the 428 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: place and you're not gonna make him feel bad or 429 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: like no matter what his budget is, and you're gonna 430 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 3: find like a nice and you're not gonna let him 431 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: pick the ring like you know, just you know me. 432 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 3: It's simple. And he's a little bit busier than I am. 433 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna keep it simple because he's already spoken to 434 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: my father. 435 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: He's already, like you've done everything. 436 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 3: Ye like yeah, Like I don't know what we're waiting on, Like, 437 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: come on now. So that's what I told her. 438 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: She said, Okay, it's waiting for the stars to align. 439 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Just do it. 440 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Like what are we waiting on? 441 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: We've been waiting weeks. He doesn't know we've been waiting weeks. 442 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: I can't wait. I come back and I'm like, okay, 443 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: being podcast folks. 444 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: So it finally happened. 445 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: Well, I cannot wait for you to be in spreadsheet. Hell, 446 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: I know that you're gonna make everything simple. 447 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: You say, oh, yeah, no I am. I'm going out. 448 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: I'm telling you I know right, I'm like justice of 449 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 3: the piece and he's like, wedding. 450 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, we'll see who wins. 451 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: You only get one, supposedly hopefully. 452 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: I was like, I wool said, no. 453 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: It really does start me, you know, making you start 454 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: to think. When you're putting this much money into an event, 455 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: You're like, what about people who get divorced? Aren't you 456 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: so madns of thousands of dollars down the drain? 457 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: Can you imagine the people who get divorced and are 458 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: still paying for their wedding? How terrible that must be. 459 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: No, I've been. I've had money for this saved since 460 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: before I met well not since before I met him, 461 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: but since before. It was probably conventionally, you know, accepted 462 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: to be saving for a wedding to a person you're 463 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: not engaged to yet. I'm just trying to think long term. 464 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: The money is there. It's just like, you know, we're 465 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: also trying to save her house. It's just that it's 466 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: that time in your life where everything just collides. The house. Yeah, wedding, 467 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: everyone else's weddings, might I add, there's so many. Yeah, 468 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: So if you're out there and you're planning a wedding 469 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: or you have teen weddings to go to this year, 470 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: I feel your pain. Let's co miserate. 471 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: See I'm passed like that. Well, no, I would say, 472 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: because I'm in my mid thirties. So a lot of 473 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: my friends got married in like their early thirties, so 474 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: I remember it was like back to back to back. 475 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: So now I'm like, okay, we're starting to get into 476 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: the dwindling. Like not you know, it's not a whole 477 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: bunch of weddings that are coming up. It's mostly like 478 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: kids stuff like oh my kid's birthday and I'm like, 479 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: oh boy. 480 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: I wonder when the second weddings wave hits. 481 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: I'm assuming, like in your forties and fifties, and even then, 482 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: I'm assuming that you do you probably don't do a 483 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: big shindg. You just kind of get married. 484 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not the whole like registry. There was a 485 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: really sweet you know, I don't often peruse the wedding 486 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: section of the New York Times, but someone posted this 487 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: on Facebook because it's a really what's a rare black couple? 488 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: I think for the New York Times wedding section, but 489 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: this is a couple who are getting married. They're both 490 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: in their sixties, and the story is really sweet, not 491 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: only but it's not just these aren't your average people. 492 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: So the woman, her name is doctor Helene Gail. She 493 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: has been like a top executive at the Centers for 494 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: Disease Control and Prevention in the HIV AIDS epidemic. Like 495 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: she's cool with Bono, like Bono mentions her in speeches. 496 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: And then her husband used to be a former aide 497 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: to Senator Edward Kennedy. His name is Stephen Keith. Anyways, 498 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: so they're like huge in public health. So they are 499 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: doing amazing things but their love stories that they met 500 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: in the seventies when they were both like medical students, 501 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: and they went their entire lives like thirty years, you know, 502 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: working together, but never really like connecting. And eventually he 503 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: just like woke up and got his shit together and proposed. 504 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: Damn, but I mean, in your sixteen I'm not trying 505 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: to wait that long, superman. If you do, listen, don't 506 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: do it to yourself. 507 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: Well, he was married twice and she but she was 508 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: more of like a feminist, like didn't want to get married, 509 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: and I really identify with her. Actually, I was like 510 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: hanging on to her every word in this quote because 511 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know something about marriage, you know, I'll just 512 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: go ahead and read it. The article says the question 513 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: of marriage was one that doctor Gail had to work 514 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: out for herself. She said, it's easy to be intellectual 515 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: about marriage. Is it an equal institution for women as 516 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: it is for men. Is it going to change my 517 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: life and my life options? Does it indicate I need 518 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: someone to complete me as a human being. Eventually, she 519 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: decided to let emotion rule. There is something about the 520 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: act that a public commitment does make a bond that 521 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: is different and special and creates a level of intimacy, 522 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: not necessarily that you need marriage four, but probably is 523 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: facilitated by marriage. And I was like, okay, because I 524 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: think it's I don't know, I've sort of been overthinking 525 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: marriage a little bit because we're having this like a 526 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: third or fourth wave femine as a movement, and I 527 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: feel like, no, you don't need to be married technically anymore, 528 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: and yeah, you can be financially in depend on your 529 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: own as a woman. But you know, just sort of 530 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: like personally soul searching and asking myself, you know, why 531 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: am I actually getting married? 532 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 533 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: And what is it really going to mean? 534 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny because you said because this 535 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: I was driving because I remember when I first got 536 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: back because I'd know n Superman for a while and 537 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 3: I dated in between, and I remember like when I 538 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: really started dating him again, I wasn't in the best 539 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: place because. 540 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: I was like, ugh, you know, you've just been heard 541 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, this guy is a jerk. 542 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: That guy was a jerk. And then Superman kind of 543 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: came back in my life and I wasn't especially in 544 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: the beginning. I was like nervous, like is this just 545 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: the safe space to park, you know. And then yesterday 546 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: I had just gone and see my dad and he 547 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: was like, you know, Superman. Of course he doesn't call 548 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: him Superman, but he said, you know, Superman. He spoke 549 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: to me about you. I was like, Daddy, I know, 550 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: and so he's. 551 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: Like like, you know, I just want to let you know 552 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: it's coming soon. You know. 553 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: My dad's all excited and geeked up because he has 554 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: five daughters, so you know, he's at a point now 555 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: where he's like, please someone marry me. And as I 556 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: was driving home, I thought to myself, you know, like 557 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: I really love Superman. Like it's not you know, it's 558 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: not a hurt place. You know, it's not a I'm 559 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 3: parking myself here. It's not like he's a really great guy, 560 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: you know, just like I mean, I'm sure you think 561 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: about this about you know fiance boo that you're just like, yo, 562 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 3: this he's a really good person, not just a good 563 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: man like to me, just a good person. And I'm 564 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: just really blessed just even if he wasn't my man, 565 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: he's a good person, you know, and just it just. 566 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: Makes me happy. 567 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: And I thought to myself, and I'm finally in a 568 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: place too where honestly, it was nice that my dad, 569 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: you know, was happy about my choice now because remember 570 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: remember when we first started the podcast, they were not happy, 571 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: And I thought to myself, the truth of the matter is, 572 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: I don't care that I'm finally in a place where 573 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: I'm like either way, if they were happy or not 574 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: happy or whatever, I've heard that I'm filing the place 575 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: where I'm literally living life on my own terms and 576 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: for the most part, you know, within reason. You know, 577 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: I'm not like, you know, I'm going to walk the 578 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: streets naked, But I don't care. Like I'm making choices 579 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: based upon what I feel is right for me. I'm 580 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: not measuring them against what my parents think, what my 581 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: friends think. I'm finally like feeling fully grown and just 582 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: making choices just based upon what I feel is right. 583 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: I think it's all about trusting yourself. I think we 584 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: doubt ourselves so much when we're younger, and you know, 585 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: you well, you have the foresight of like seven years 586 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: on me. But I feel like I'm still in that 587 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: dowdy place, you know, or you feel like every decision 588 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: is so huge and so important, and you just like, 589 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: am I making the right decision and what if I'm 590 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: not and you know, and that trickles into relationships too. 591 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: But I think it's all about you know, not to 592 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: sound all religious, but it's really about faith. You know, 593 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: whatever you think of as faith, you just have to 594 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: step out on it and hope. And I feel the 595 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: same way about fiancee boo. It's like when you look 596 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: at someone and you see how they move in the world, 597 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: and yeah, sometimes I just like step back and I'm like, 598 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: why you're so good? 599 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 600 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: How did I wind up with you? I'm a mean person. 601 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I think that two people think I'm so. 602 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'm nice, but honestly, yeah right, 603 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm like I could be petty as hell. I can 604 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: be like just like I get very I just get 605 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 3: stressed out super easily. Like I'm literally like the nicest 606 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 3: person until i'm not. And then when I'm not, it's 607 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: like who is this monster? And like Superman is like 608 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: even when he's not in a good mood, he's still nice. 609 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 3: I mean, who feeds the kids in the neighborhood? Like 610 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: just today he was like, oh, Man, like like our 611 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: watermelon had a freezer burn, and I was like, I. 612 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: Don't know why wait, what is that sentence? You just said? 613 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: Our watermelon? 614 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: He took it out of refrigerator and it had freezer burn, 615 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: like because he had it all the way in the 616 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 3: back and he was so okay, yeah he had it. 617 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: So he was so disappointed and I asked why. He 618 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: was like I was gonna cut it up to the kids. 619 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: In the back, and I'm like, who are you you know, 620 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 5: and he's just like such a sweetheart and like, yeah, 621 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 5: it's just it just it's made me like even just 622 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 5: to see, like you said, when you watch them navigating 623 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: the world, and I think that I'm really really, you know, 624 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 5: blessed and lucky, even if he was just my friend, 625 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 5: you know. 626 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, and honestly, Mandy, when you get to I mean, 627 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: when I was because you're what are you twenty nine? 628 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be twenty nine and exactly two. 629 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: Months so so I'm thirty six now, and at twenty nine, 630 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: I mean, so much was shaken up because that was 631 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: like the time when I lost my job and I 632 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: lost everything and everything. I was questioning literally everything. But 633 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 3: now and I don't know if there's a magic age. 634 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm just assuming it's just there's not an age. It's 635 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 3: just the moment where you get to a place and 636 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: you feel not that everything is perfect, because it's not. 637 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: But I'm finally at a place where I feel like 638 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: I'm not looking for perfect I just want to do 639 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 3: my best and be my best and like not in comparison. 640 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: To what people say. But I don't know how I 641 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: arrived at this point. 642 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, just living and you know, so 643 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 3: I hopefully, you know, everyone kind of gets to that place, 644 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: but I'm assuming you get to that place. 645 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some twenty five. 646 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: Year old who are at that place, and there's some 647 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: fifty year old who are just getting at that place. 648 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: But I think as life evolves that you'll get to 649 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: that place where you're not like questioning every move. You 650 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: just understand that there's a flow to life and that 651 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: you're on the right path. And even the bad things 652 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: are good things. That's what I've learned. Like even the 653 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: stuff that's that's messed up, it's supposed to be and 654 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: it's supposed to bring me to the next level. So 655 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: I even welcome my mistakes. I make so many, like 656 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: even that car crash. Don't you know they offered me 657 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: another car, I was like, oh, well that worked out, 658 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: and so like, yeah, so the flow of life is 659 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: really just amazing and beautiful and if you learn to 660 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: kind of chill out and just rock with it and 661 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: just you know, do your best and try to be 662 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: your best, everything else works out. 663 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 4: Yep ah. 664 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: So that concludes our joint therapy session. Sorry for the 665 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: gushing about the booze. I'm sorry, I know, but. 666 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's like me too, you know sometimes it's like 667 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: the gush. So are you gonna boost? Are you gonna 668 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: have breath? 669 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: Oh? You broke up a little bit? 670 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: Okay, did you hear you? Hear me? Now? 671 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: Yes? Okay. 672 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna boost this week. Feeling in an optimistic mood. 673 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: It's Monday, and it's going to be a short week 674 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: because this weekend I'm going on a trip, a trip 675 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: with my friends, my best friends, which maybe I'm realizing 676 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: the last time we actually all get I don't want 677 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: to jinx it. It may not be the last time, 678 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: but it kind of feels like it might be the 679 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: last time we all get together for our annual camping trip. 680 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna boost one vacation time and time off 681 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: from work and two time off with friends when you 682 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: still can, because I you know, you read all these 683 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: studies about Americans not taking all their their PTO and 684 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: I just don't understand why, because I feel like you've 685 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: earned that time off and you're not impressing anybody by 686 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: staying and you know, wasting your days. So take your 687 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: days off. I'm MAXI mine out every year, but this 688 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: trip in particular. These are my my like core group 689 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: of like rider die friends, and you know, we're all 690 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: going to be each other's weddings, and we've all sort 691 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: of we live in different states. I think we were 692 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: enforced three or four states now, and that's evolved over time. 693 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: And that's the reason I feel like it's such an 694 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: important trip right now for us is because three of us, wait, 695 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: two of the couples in this group are getting married 696 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: in the next year. Okay, one of the couples is 697 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: probably going to be prego in the next year, and 698 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, we're buying houses, and you kind of get 699 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: the sense that, like, Okay, this is the this is 700 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: the pivoting point, Like this is when we transition into 701 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, real life and it's not just about the 702 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: group of friends and we're not gonna be able to 703 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: just pick up and go to the Pocono's for a 704 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: week like we're doing right now. So I just really 705 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: want to cherish his time and enjoy it with them, 706 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: because who knows what's going to happen next year. 707 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: That's true because once babies come. I was just like 708 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: me and one of my bs, we used to always 709 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: go like at least the way once, like for an 710 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: extended weekend, and I was like asking her, She's like, 711 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: did you forget to have a baby? I was like, oh, yeah, 712 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: my God's son. 713 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: I was like, can he come. 714 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: She's like no, so yeah, no, definitely. That's an awesome 715 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: brown boost, And mine is actually really simple. My brown 716 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: boost is Jesse Williams. 717 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: That's it. 718 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing else to say. Just more of 719 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: Jesse Williams. Please with the little uh grape juice and 720 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: soda on the side. 721 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: What is that chicken noodle soup? 722 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: Yes, episoda on the side. 723 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: Yes, he is the chicken noodle soup to my soda 724 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: on the side. And I just want to just more 725 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: of him. I cannot get enough. So that's my brown boost. 726 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: He's such a pleasant picture to imagine in your head. Yes, 727 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: I think he uses his beauty for good. To be honest, Yes, 728 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, and he's written about 729 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: and we've talked about the European beauty standards in the 730 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: black community. And he is light skinned, biracial, blue eyes, 731 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: and I can identify a lot with that with him 732 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: because I'm light skin, I have green eyes, and you 733 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: almost like you want to be involved in in all 734 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: the you know, exciting movements and like Black pride that's 735 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: happening right now. But you also like he also acknowledges like, hey, 736 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: I have been given this genetic situation and it puts 737 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: me in a different place than a lot of people, 738 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: in a lot of people's minds, and he like acknowledges that. 739 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 2: And I always respected him for calling that out and 740 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: acknowledging that little piece of privilege he has. Yeah, you know, 741 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: being lighter skin with you know, lighter complexion and stuff. 742 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: But I think he and to the same end, I 743 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: think he really uses that. Like people like him. They 744 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: think he's hot and sexy, which he is, and that 745 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: means they pay attention to him, and that can be 746 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: a negative thing, but he's also he's sort of like 747 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: made it a positive. 748 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, like you can't help go ahead. 749 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Like you think I'm beautiful, great, but listen to what 750 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: I have to say. You may not like it. 751 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: And so I love because you're right. 752 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: He gets invited to some of these conservative like panels 753 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 3: and like TV shows and news shows that might not 754 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: otherwise have like a Nate. Who's the guy Nate, the 755 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: one who did uh? He did the new movie about 756 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: Oh My mind is just a blanket everyway. He has 757 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: this new movie about the slave Revolution, like. 758 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh, Tucker, Tucker, Yes, I know what you're talking. 759 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: So he's very handsome too, but he's like just like 760 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: you know, he looks like typical black man, you. 761 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: Know, not yes the movie about Not Turner. 762 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: Yes, so he's very handsome, but like a Jesse Williams 763 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 3: is the type of he has a type of looks 764 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: that like across all races people can acknowledge like okay. 765 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: And as a result, yes, doors definitely open and he 766 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: uses you know, and I'm glad that he uses that 767 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: for good. And it's like, yes, you have me invited here, 768 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: but I'm about to read you like like no, like 769 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: no other And. 770 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: Just to be clear, so we're not drugged. It is 771 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: the movie is about not turning the slave by Nate Parker, Yes, 772 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: the director. 773 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: Yes, and he's fine, fine, fine, I have. 774 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: Just even seen a picture of him. 775 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: I mean, well, child, make it your make it your 776 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: business to google. 777 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: I know him. What's he been in Yeah, he's been Yeah, he's. 778 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: Been in movies before. 779 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: But he's just like you know, I like, like, I mean, 780 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 3: my preference, like Superman is super chocolate. I love, love love, 781 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 3: dark skin, high cheekbones. Nate's not really like he's more chocolate, 782 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 3: like you know, like a milk chocolate. But yeah, I 783 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: love I'm hungry. Do we get any letters this week? 784 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 3: If you do have letters, or you do have a 785 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: financial question or career question, you know, you can always 786 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: tweet us at the BA podcast. You can find us 787 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: on Facebook as Brown Ambition, and you can email us 788 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: at Brown Ambition. 789 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: Oh no, come on the. 790 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: BA podcast at gmail dot com. 791 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: Nope, Conic, what is this Brian Ambition Podcast at gmail 792 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 2: dot com? 793 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: Yes? 794 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: Have we listened? Have we done this question yet? From? 795 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: Does she want us to use her name? We'll just 796 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: call her I really feel bad because shorthand of her 797 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: name is fatty, but can't call her that. 798 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: So let's call her, let's. 799 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: Call her slim Slim. 800 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so here's the question, and forgive me if I 801 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: repeat of repeating myself. Okay, she says, Hi, Mandy and Tiffany, Hi, 802 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: I am an entrepreneur. This is my second year in business, 803 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: and revenue is growing, and the next month client work 804 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: will bring in about twenty three thousand dollars, not to 805 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: mention smaller incoming client work. I want to allocate this 806 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: money in a way that helps me get ahead. My 807 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: concerns are how much to save my save toward living 808 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: expenses and in my emergency fund, and how aggressive I 809 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: should be toward debt pay down. I have an old 810 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: personal credit card bill that's high that I've been paying 811 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: down and not adding expenses to. My instinct is to 812 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: be aggressive and paying down the credit card, but I 813 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: want to be sure I have enough money to cover 814 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 2: my living expenses if things get lean, I already keep 815 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: my expenses. My personal expense is low. Any ideas and 816 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: how I should consider allocating this money or how I 817 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: can approach debt to pay down? No, to pay down 818 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: my debt and increase my savings. 819 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: Well, first, congratulations two years and you know you're making 820 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: good money a month. 821 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 822 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: Seriously, congrats. That's a good question. 823 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: It is. 824 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I do because I'm kind of 825 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 3: similar in that I don't have old credit card debt, 826 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm credit card debt free. The only debt I 827 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 3: do have is my student loan debt for my masters. 828 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 3: So what I decided is I really live, especially as 829 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 3: an entrepreneur, I don't live by a mouth. I live 830 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: by percentages because I never necessarily know. 831 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: What I'm going to make month a month. 832 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of have a general idea, like 833 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: a range, and so I have allocated five percent of 834 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 3: my income toward debt paydown. So what that means is 835 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,959 Speaker 3: I give my debt automatically. 836 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: I have it. 837 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: My bank automatically gives a minimum every month, So no 838 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: matter what, you know, my student loans get their four 839 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: hundred bucks or whatever it is on like the fifteenth 840 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 3: of the month, and then depending on what I make, 841 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: I give an additional payment at the end of the month, 842 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: a five percent of what I made that of what 843 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: I made that month, just to like, So that's my 844 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 3: way of allocating without like overly aggressively just paying down debt, 845 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: and then I set aside, so twenty percent of my 846 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: income goes toward investing. Ten percent of that twenty is 847 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 3: retirement and the other ten percent is investing for wealth. 848 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: So that's I call that my me money. And I 849 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 3: take twenty percent of my income and do that. Thirty 850 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: percent of my income I set aside for taxes because 851 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 3: you know, you don't have no business, but Uncle Sam 852 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: takes it, you know, And like I said, five percent 853 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: for debt, and I like to give ten percent, like 854 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 3: I set aside ten percent to donate, and so those 855 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: percentages come after I set aside my my like after 856 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: my expenses and stuff. 857 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm like, oh, off. 858 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: The top except for taxes off the top, unless you know, 859 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: I set aside my taxes before basically everything except for 860 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: business spending. So that's what I would probably do. Just 861 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: work out some percentages for yourself. I probably would set 862 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: aside ten percent, maybe five percent for debt, and then 863 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 3: maybe ten percent for savings, if not more, and just 864 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 3: start chopping up. Like I like to play with my percentages. 865 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: So I do a percentages for you know, three or 866 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: four months, and as I start to make more, I 867 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 3: increase those percentages because I don't need as much. 868 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: I save a really aggressively. 869 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 3: I don't you know, I make really good money a 870 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: month now with the BUDGETISA, after like five years of 871 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: toiling away. But I set aside a large chunk for 872 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: myself because by four I want to be financially independent, 873 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 3: and you know, so I live simply now so I 874 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 3: can achieve that goal. So that's what I would suggest, 875 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 3: set aside five percent on top of your your your 876 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 3: minimum payment. 877 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: Well here's my question to you. So if you had 878 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: a she doesn't tell us how much is on this 879 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: credit card, but if you had a credit card with 880 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: let's say, like ten thousand dollars on it, with like 881 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: a fifteen percent which seems about average fifteen to twenty 882 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: percent interest rate, do you think you'd still kind of 883 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: like just let that sit there and only put five 884 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: percent or do you? For me, personally, I get stressed 885 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: out by having credit card like debt, and so for me, 886 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: I was always more on the And I think it's 887 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: really a personal thing and it comes down to your 888 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: your like the way your your mentality around money, and 889 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: if having debt is going to weigh on you at 890 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 2: night and you can't sleep, which it does to me. 891 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: I was always leaning toward more of the aggressive with 892 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: by you know, saving still, which I think is important 893 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: to have money on the side so that you know, 894 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 2: you know, something happens, you can always lean on that savings. 895 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: But when you have that crazy high interest rate and 896 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 2: you know, you know this credit card is is has 897 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: been you know, on your on your docket for a while. Yeah, 898 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 2: I've always been toward more of like the you know, 899 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: pay whatever you possibly can. That's that you know that 900 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 2: you have left over toward that to that credit card. 901 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: All what you can do. 902 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 3: Too, is like if you let's just say you have 903 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars and you split it up into four 904 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: payments of twenty five hundred dollars a piece, and right, 905 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 3: so you could do that over four months and say, okay, 906 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna save, I'm gonna do something of that, and 907 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna in four months, since I'm not actually using 908 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: this credit card, in four months, i should be credit 909 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 3: card debt free. 910 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: So you can kind of do that too. And if 911 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: you don't want. 912 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: To do the monthly percentage, just decide when do I 913 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 3: really want to be done with this and set aside 914 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: a chunk of money that you're going to send monthly. 915 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't do it all in like one month, 916 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: because you want them, especially as a business owner. You 917 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 3: know you might be doing great now and then in 918 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 3: two months the thing that you do, you know it's 919 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 3: no longer relevant, and you don't want to have like 920 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: you're just debt free, but you don't have any money 921 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 3: to fall back on totally. 922 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: You never know what next month is going to bring. Yeah, 923 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: and this may be your first month when things are final. 924 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: It's just like, you know, you're feeling successful and you're 925 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 2: making money, but this is all new and it's just 926 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: the beginning, and you don't want to put all your 927 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: eggs in your credit card basket and have no cash 928 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 2: left orr at the end of it. Yeah. I think 929 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: starting from like what you what you said, setting an 930 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: end date and then working backward how much you need 931 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: to actually pay on the card to get to that 932 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: end date is a good idea. They're all right, slim, slim, 933 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 2: not batty. If you guys have questions again, you can 934 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 2: email us that Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot. 935 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: Com dot com. Know, I gotta do that every time 936 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: I do. You're waiting for it. I know you will, 937 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: all right, So it's. 938 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: Time for all we do is when when win, no 939 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: matter what. I don't know the second line, so don't ask. 940 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So what is you're winning for this week? 941 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: Instead of a win, I'm going to do a book recommendation? Okay, 942 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm doing audiobooks now that my commute is 943 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: hellishly long. I'm trying to disilver lining. Is that I'm 944 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: listening to audiobooks now. I this is a book called Grit. 945 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Get rid of it. 946 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 2: I have. I like it a lot. 947 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: That's all. 948 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: That's it? 949 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: What is what? 950 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 3: What is it about? 951 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 2: I was just trying to buy myself some times, like, oh, 952 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: look up the whole title of the book. 953 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, it's really good. As I look up. 954 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: Grit the Power of Passions and the God I need 955 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: to go to sleep. Grit the Power of Passion and Perseverance. 956 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: It only has been out since May, but it's by 957 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: Angela Duckworth, who has been the recipient of a little 958 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: award called the MacArthur Genius Grant MacArthur Genius Award, which 959 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: ton of Hasse Codes won. Lynn Manuel Miranda one like 960 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: a lot of amazing people. And if you don't know 961 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: the McCarthy, the MacArthur Award, you don't even get, Like, 962 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: you don't apply for it, you don't ask to be nominated. 963 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: Like a super secret board of the most elite people 964 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: in a dozen different fields gets together and they like, 965 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 2: pluck you out from obscurity and they say that you 966 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 2: get the award. So anyway, that's awesome. So she's super smart. 967 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: But the book itself was really good. Sweat. I like 968 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 2: it because it's about so it's called the grit, the 969 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: power or passion and perseverance. It's not just like a 970 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 2: book on how people become successful. It talks about what 971 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: separates someone who's successful from someone who's not successful. And 972 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: Angela has done years and years of research on this, 973 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 2: looking at everyone from West Point cadets to those National 974 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: Spelling Bee champion kids, to college graduates to high school 975 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 2: students and finds that grit is what sets people apart. 976 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: It's not just your talent or your potential. It's the 977 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 2: ability to withstand anything and keep and keep going. And 978 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 2: it really resonated with me especially well not just from 979 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: a like a career kind of aspect, which I think 980 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: is good too, because it just shows you that, like, 981 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: you know, I don't always personally, I you know, covering 982 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: finance and being a financial reporter, I know, I don't 983 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 2: always feel like I'm the smartest person financially or that 984 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 2: I know all the answers financially. But I've always sort 985 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: of felt like, you know, a little scrap and like 986 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: I'm going to get the answer and I may not 987 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 2: know everything, but I'll figure it out. And I think 988 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 2: that's what she's sort of talking about. And I and I, 989 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. I highly recommend it. I think it's 990 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: a it's a good book, and it's a good reminder 991 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: that you you may not be the smartest or the fastest. 992 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: Like I was never the I'm not the best athlete, 993 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: but I've done a half marathon and I've done a triathlon. 994 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: That's because you know, I was always the biggest girl. 995 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm the biggest girl in my cross 996 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: my CrossFit class. I'm the slowest girl in my CrossFit class. 997 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: But I'm the only one who's come to every class 998 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 2: like it's all the time, and like I keep going 999 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 2: because I get really I get really stuck on these 1000 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: goals of mine, and you keep going and it's nice 1001 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 2: that there's actually a word I can call that now, 1002 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: which is I like that. 1003 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 3: Great grit right if you know. It reminds me of 1004 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 3: my dad. Like he was the youngest son of the 1005 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 3: last wife. My grandfather had I think like five wives 1006 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 3: and Nigerian that was totally cool back in that those days. 1007 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: And his mother was the last wife. He was the 1008 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: youngest son. I think some number seven or eight. So like, 1009 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: you know, just to put in perspective, the first son 1010 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 3: is obviously the most important. 1011 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: He's the heir. The second son is despair. Everybody else 1012 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: is like extra mouths to feed. So imagine the youngest 1013 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: So he wasn't really given much attention or just even 1014 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: just his father didn't invest much in him. His mother did. 1015 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: But my dad is little on. 1016 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: The short side. He hates to sit out, like I'm 1017 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 3: so glad he does not listen to this. He's a 1018 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: little on the short side. And he's smart, like really smart. 1019 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 3: But really, when I see from where he came in Nigeria, 1020 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: like literally at sixteen, he built his own home for 1021 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: lack of a better word, for himself and like like 1022 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 3: right outside his father's compound, like like you know, like 1023 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: with like just built his own home. Just imagine what 1024 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: that looks like in Nigeria and somehow got all the 1025 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 3: way to America to succeed, not only succeed, but thrive, 1026 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 3: master's degree, undergraduate, just five kids, all college educated. And 1027 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 3: that's when I really, when I look at him, it's 1028 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: that grit that you're talking about. He is one of 1029 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 3: these tenacious I don't know how we're gonna do it, 1030 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. I don't know how I'm going 1031 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: to keep doing it, and I'm going to keep going. 1032 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 3: And my dad does not let go when he has 1033 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 3: like something in mind. And so I actually really want 1034 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 3: to read that book because I love, Like, if there's 1035 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 3: anything that I hope that I inherited from him other 1036 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 3: than his temper, because lord knows when I get mad 1037 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: that I hope it's that grit of his because he 1038 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 3: is I can only imagine if he would have grown 1039 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 3: up with like and started a little higher, you know, 1040 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: because yeah, he's just from he fard. I mean, he 1041 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 3: has literally gone to the moon, you know, like not 1042 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: literally because that's not what that means, but you know 1043 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 3: what I mean in comparison to where he's come from 1044 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: to where he is now whoa you know, like a 1045 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 3: hundred paces you know. So yeah, so you know what, 1046 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 3: in honor of you sharing a book, I think I'm 1047 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 3: going to do a book too, because I'm actually reading 1048 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 3: a new book and it's called What I Know for 1049 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 3: Sure by Oprah Winfy Winfrey. And Oprah has a magazine 1050 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: and this is like her column in her magazine, what 1051 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 3: I Know for Sure. So these are like a collection 1052 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 3: of all of not all, but like a few years 1053 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: of her column and it's just literally just that she 1054 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 3: would just share whatever she was feeling that she knew 1055 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 3: for sure at that moment in time in her life. 1056 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 3: And it's just really it's like typical Oprah, but it's 1057 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 3: just I needed some I don't know, like Oprah provides 1058 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 3: sometimes that like you could do anything, you know. Oprah's 1059 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: like the ultimate cheerleader. And so yeah, it's just a 1060 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 3: great little it's an easy little read. It's very uplifting. 1061 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 3: It's not I'm not rushing through it. I'm just kind 1062 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 3: of reading it as I need that feeling of Tiffany, 1063 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: You've got it, You're okay, you know, everything's going to 1064 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 3: work out. And so it's just a nice book and 1065 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 3: it just it's like soothing to the soul. So if 1066 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: you need a little soothing, I would highly recommend What 1067 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 3: I Know for Sure by Oprah Winfrey. I have it 1068 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 3: on my kindle, but they also have obviously, like you know, 1069 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 3: the regular book version too. 1070 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 2: I want to get the audiobook. I miss Oprah's voice. 1071 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you go to Amazon, which I love, 1072 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 3: they actually have like a nice chunky section where she's 1073 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 3: like you hear her reading and you're like, oh, Oprah, yes, yes, Oprah. 1074 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: I haven't really like I haven't watched any of the 1075 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 2: own shows or any of oprah stuff like Super Soul Sunday. 1076 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have cable, but I haven't. I 1077 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 2: feel like I've been like Oprah to pray for a 1078 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: long time. Depraved, deprived. 1079 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: We're both like just words. 1080 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm gonna stop talking now and just call it. 1081 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 2: This is the end of the show. 1082 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 3: Yes, And if you guys have any really great books, 1083 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 3: please please please share. 1084 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know what's on your bookshelves or in 1085 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 2: your ears, because. 1086 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: I honestly, like I I love reading. It's just to me. 1087 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 3: Reading and nighttime walking are the things that just like 1088 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 3: they're like my decompression. It's my thing that I love 1089 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 3: to do that brings me to like center and brings 1090 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 3: me peace. And so I love a good book. 1091 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 2: So I can't even think of a segway. I'm sorry, my. 1092 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: Brain is so. 1093 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 3: On that note. 1094 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: Y'all weird. 1095 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 3: Gonna let you go, and like I said, share your 1096 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 3: books with us. Tweet us at the BA podcast, Facebook, 1097 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 3: us at Brown Ambition, email us at us at Brown 1098 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 3: Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. 1099 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 2: Look at God, I thank you for picking up the flock. 1100 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 2: I am on a different planet right now. 1101 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 1: All right, Mandy go get your rest. 1102 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 3: Night y'all, like nine nights, Bye bye