1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: On this episode of the News World, were to discussed 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: the recent events in Minnesota, including Tom Holman's arrival there 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: and his press conference on Thursday morning. I'm really pleased 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: to welcome my guest, Chadwoff. He serves as chair of 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: America First Policy Institute's Homeland Security and Immigration Division. He 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: is responsible for the day to day management and strategic 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: direction of AFI, with a focus on setting policy goals 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: and research priorities. And I must say I've worked with 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: AFPI from its founding. It's an extraordinarily important, action oriented 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: operation that has provided an enormous amount of resources to 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the Trump administration on the policy front. Prior to joining AFI, 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Wolf served as Acting Secretary of the US Department of 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Homeland Security, So he's really remarkable prepared to have this discussion. Chad, 14 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Welcome and thank you for joining me again on News World. 15 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 16 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: Well, thanks for having me. It's great to be here. 17 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I think people are very confused about what's going on, 18 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: partly because of the videos, the television coverage, et cetera. 19 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: From your perspective, what's actually happening in Minnesota with ice? 20 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a good question to say, how 21 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 4: did we get here. How did we get to such 22 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: a sort of a chaotic environment in Minneapolis? And I 23 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: have to tell you it starts with four years of 24 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: an open border under Joe Biden. 25 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: Right. 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 4: So when President Trump came into office in early twenty five, 27 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: they closed the border. They closed the borders to illegal entries. 28 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: Apprehension numbers are low, so they sealed off the border. 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: So they stopped millions of coming into the border. But 30 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: now you have to deal with the millions that Joe 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: Biden resettled into the interior of the country, right, And 32 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: so now the focus shifts from the border to trying 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: to find those public safety and national security threats. And 34 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 4: so that's what ICE is doing across the country. Obviously, 35 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: in Minneapolis, it's a challenge. You have sanctuary policies, you 36 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: have local leaders that are very hostile, saying some very 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: dangerous rhetoric which puts ICE officers in danger, and when 38 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: that happens, you have to surge more resources to protect 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: those officers. Unfortunately, over the last three and a half weeks, 40 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: we've had three officer involved shootings, two of which have 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 4: been fatal. And I think over that period of time, 42 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: President Trump really didn't like what he was seeing wanted 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: a different change in strategy, and so he deployed Tom Holman, 44 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: who's been up there for two and a half days, 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: I think is making some progress on trying to bring 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 4: down the temperature so that ICE can do what its 47 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: mission is, which is to do targeted operations again dangerous 48 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: criminals and remove them from the country and to protect 49 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 4: the people of Minneapolis and Minnesota. 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Man Holman himself is sort of an almost a legendary figure, 51 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: isn't it forty years. 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: Experience he does. 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: He's got thirty plus years of both being a Border 54 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: Patrol agent and an ICE agent, so he knows both 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: sides of the coin there. He understands that mission and 56 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: an operational capacity unlike any others, including myself and even 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: the current secretary. He just has a operational understanding of 58 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: what it's going to take to get the job done 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: and the mission done. And so he's uniquely qualified in 60 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: positioned to go in there and to talk to those 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: local leaders to say, look, you can go out and 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: say whatever you want to on TV because your politics 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: are different than mine, but here's what we need to 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: make sure that our ICE officers are safe and can 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: do their mission. 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: And to protect the residents of Minneapolis. 67 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Now, some of the background to the intensity in Minnesota 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: from the nature of the Minnesota Democratic Party. Back in 69 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: January twelfth, the Minnesota Jurney General Keith Ellison filed an 70 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: eighty page lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security. It 71 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: has all sorts of wild charges that their enforcement violated 72 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the First Amendment, the Tenth Amendment, the administrative Procedure Acts, etc. 73 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: And what the state deems the constitutions quote equal sovereignty principle, 74 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: which has a historian I don't think I ever encountered 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the concept of equal sovereignty between the federal government and 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: a state. To what extent is the politics in the 77 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: tone of Minnesota problem. 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a huge problem. I think if 79 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: you looked at ICE operations across the country, and I 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: would say in ninety eight percent of jurisdictions across the country, 81 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 4: they don't have this issue. They don't have this chaos 82 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: in this violence. They do their job largely out of 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: the public spotlight, and they do it in cooperation with 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: officials to get those public safety threats off of the 85 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 4: street and removed out of the country. But when you 86 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: have a place like Minnesota, that between the governor, the mayor, 87 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: and the attorney general are saying some pretty wild things, 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: things that historically have been so off the table, but 89 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: seems to be commonplace now. I mean, you had the 90 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: governor say that DHS and ICE was not a law 91 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: enforcement agency, and nothing could be further from the truth. 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: These are sworn law enforcement officers. They carry a badge, 93 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: they carry a gun, They have arrest authorities. They remove 94 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: criminals from our street. They can arrest US citizens that 95 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: are breaking the law. These are law enforcement officers, but 96 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: they also are referred to as Nazis and propaganda machines 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: and executioners. And what that does over time is it 98 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: activates the activists. It activates the residents there, because if 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: the residents here local leaders say that they are the enemy, 100 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: well then you're going to go out into the streets 101 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: and you're going to act like they're the enemy. And 102 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: so I think that's why the temperature and the chaos 103 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: and the violence is raised to such a level in Minneapolis, 104 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: and a large part of it is because of the 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: actions of the governor, the mayor, and the attorney general. 106 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: The lawsuit speaker that you talked about it's absolutely ridiculous. 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: But they are playing more to their politics than they 108 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: are actually doing their jobs, which is to say, I've 109 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: got an illegal alien who commits a crime in Minneapolis. 110 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: He goes into a city jail, Ice gets notified. They 111 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 4: ask the jail to hold that individual until they can 112 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: arrive and pick him up in the jail, and the 113 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: police say no, we're going to release them on bail, 114 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: and now they have to go into a neighborhood and 115 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: find that individual. So it's policies and rhetoric. The combination 116 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: of the two, in my opinion, is what's a big 117 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: part of why Minneapolis is currently out of control. 118 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: He wrote a Fox News op ed saying that Mayor 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: Fry and Governor Tim Watts's sanctuary policies actually created the 120 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: conditions for tragedy. They had the same problem back in 121 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: the riots in twenty twenty when Waltz refused to act 122 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: for days and the city burned. What is there about 123 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: the politics and the culture of Minneapolis that leads to 124 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: these kind of radical sanctuary policies. 125 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: You know, in twenty twenty, I spent a lot of 126 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: time in Portland dealing with this as well, And the 127 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: two are similar in some respects, which is to say, 128 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: I think they value law enforcement, but what it appears 129 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: is that they value more is the ability for residents 130 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: and others to do whatever they like. Right, you have 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: this culture of protest. The problem with that is if 132 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: it stays nonviolent, it's fine. But what we see time 133 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: and time again is it turns to violence. And then 134 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: with sanctuary policies, the whole idea of sanctuary, it's kind 135 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: of ironic because what the mayor is doing, he's actually 136 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: encouraging more ICE officers in his community because instead of 137 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: picking up a dangerous individual in their jail, that can 138 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: be done by two ICE officers going into a jail 139 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: setting picking up two criminal illegal aliens and deporting them, 140 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: it now takes a team of fifteen to twenty ICE 141 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: officers to go into a neighborhood and find that same individual. 142 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: And as they're in that neighborhood, then you have neighbors 143 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: starting to come out and they're interested in what's going 144 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: on and they don't like ice, right, and then violence 145 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: starts to happen. So it's ironic to me a little 146 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,119 Speaker 4: bit that the mayors that say we are a sanctuary 147 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: city are actually encouraging more ICE officers in their community 148 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: because of their policies, and what you heard recently from 149 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: Tom Homan who gave a press conference in Minneapolis is 150 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: it appears as though they're starting to have some agreement 151 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: to allow ICE to go into Minnesota jails to pick 152 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: up criminal illegal aliens. It's like, if you just would 153 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: have had that position months ago, we could have avoided 154 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 4: all of this. That's what they've been asking for for 155 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: ye you could have avoided all of this, but playing 156 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: politics over public safety. 157 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: In my view, fedral a very interesting contrast between Minnesota 158 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: and Florida. From your perspective, what's been the difference in 159 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: how these two states have reacted. 160 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: Florida Governor DeSantis has been very forward leaning. There's an agreement, 161 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: it's called a two eighty seven g agreement that allows 162 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: local law enforcement depending in the state of Florida but 163 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: anywhere across the country, to work hand in hand with 164 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: ICE so that if they pull someone over for speeding 165 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: and they find out after they run some checks that 166 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: this individual is here illegally, well, guess what, they can 167 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: put them in their jail. They'll call ICE. ICE will 168 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: come pick them up. Instead of having to have ICE 169 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: there on the side of the road with them to 170 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: arrest that individual. Right, So it's cooperation. And so at 171 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: two eighty seven g agreement allows local law enforcement, particularly 172 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: in the state of Florida, but elsewhere, State of Texas 173 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: and others to work with ICE to remove these dangerous folks. 174 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: But to be honest, the Trump administration is not even 175 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: asking Minnesota to do that. That would be great, but 176 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: they're not even asking them to do that. All they're 177 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: saying is, right now today there are over thirteen hundred 178 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: criminal illegal aliens in city and county jails in Minnesota 179 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: throughout the state. ICE wants the ability to go into 180 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 4: those jails, pick them up, and to deport them. They're 181 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: here in the country illegally and they've committed a crime 182 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: here in the United States. Minnesota has said, no, you 183 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: cannot do that, and we will release them on bail 184 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: and you'll have to go out into our neighborhoods and 185 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: find them. You'll have to find them another way. And 186 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: so now we've come full circle because it sounds like 187 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: Tom Homan is getting agreements to go into jails and 188 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: to pick these dangerous people up. 189 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: You have thirteen hundred arrested in Minnesota. What would that suggest, 190 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: for example, about California jails or New York jails or 191 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Illinois jails. 192 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: Oh, it's thousands, hundreds of thousands across the country. It 193 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: happens every day every day. Illegal aliens are getting arrested 194 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: because they assault someone, or they burglarize something, or they 195 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: do something even more terrible such as a stabbing or 196 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: killing or whatever it might be. And they're getting arrested 197 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: all the time. And as soon as they're arrested, ICE 198 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: gets notified, They get notified, and what they do is 199 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 4: they will call there in Minneapolis. They'll say, I'm going 200 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: to lodge a detainer, which is just simply a request 201 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: to say, please hold this individual until I can get there, 202 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: right until I can get an officer there. With so 203 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: many of these going on all at once, as you 204 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: can imagine, they can't get there right away. So sometimes 205 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: it takes a day, two days, three days for them 206 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: to get there. And all the detainer says is, please 207 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: hold them in your jail until I get there. And 208 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: what we see specifically in sanctuary cities, they say, no, 209 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: we're not going to do that because, quote, we've been 210 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: told by our leadership, the mayor, the governor, whoever's in 211 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: charge of that city, that we are a sanctuary city 212 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: and that we don't cooperate with ICE. So we're going 213 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: to release these folks when it's time to release them, 214 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: and we hope you can find them. But that's what's 215 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: going on. So yeah, absolutely, across the country there are 216 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: thousands now. Luckily, in most cities and most states, ICE 217 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: detainers are recognized and adhered to, but not in sanctuary cities. 218 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't realize that Holman actually had been 219 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: with the Obama administration and has a serious background on 220 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: a totally nonpartisan basis. It seems to me in that 221 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: sense that he's almost the perfect person. He headed up 222 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: Obama's ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations ARM, So it's pretty 223 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: hard to argue that he's not just an American citizen 224 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: doing his job. Don't you think that gives him an 225 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: enormous advantage? 226 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent? 227 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: And Tom talked about that at his press conference here 228 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: recently in Minnesota. I mean, he talked about working for 229 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: six different presidents, including President Obama, who gave him an award, 230 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: He gave him an honor because of his work at 231 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: ICE and doing what he does. Obviously, he's an outspoken 232 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: proponent of President Trump and President Trump's views about the 233 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 4: border and interior enforcement and all of that, and that's fine. 234 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: But what he has is credibility. He has credibility not 235 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: only with ICE and CBP, but he has credibility with 236 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: local sheriffs, local law enforcement, and others because he's walked 237 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: the walk, right, He's done the midnight patrols, he's been 238 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: on the border late at night, he's seen cartel members, 239 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: he's removed dangerous people. So he's not the political appointee 240 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: who's just running the department for four years or whatever 241 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: it might be. But he's done this job for thirty 242 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: plus years. So yes, absolutely uniquely qualified to do this. 243 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: And this also fits the whole Trump focus, which on 244 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: the border, I have to say, has been so much 245 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: more effective. The degree to which they have reduced illegal 246 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: entry I think is breathtaking and almost unimaginable. As somebody 247 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: who's right in the middle of it. What's your reaction 248 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: to their record of stopping illegal immigrants from coming in? 249 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: Oh, it's incredible, I think for those of us that's 250 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: that have worked along the border, we're working with the 251 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: transition team to try to put some of these policies 252 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: in place. We knew we could turn it around, but 253 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: I think the speed in which they did, I think 254 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: surprised a lot of people. And so that's a testament 255 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: to President Trump and his vision, Steven Miller and a 256 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: variety of others at the Department that we're able to 257 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: do that. And you've seen apprehension members fall almost ninety percent, 258 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: maybe even higher, depends on what day and what week 259 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: you're looking at the numbers. Ninety percent, those apprehension numbers 260 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: along the border have fallen. They've stopped releasing mass releases 261 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: of illegal aliens into the interior, which is how we 262 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: got to the problem that we are today. And so 263 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: the border has been an overwhelming success, and a large 264 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: part of that is a CBP Commissioner Rodney Scott there. 265 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: And so now the attention has shifted to Okay, now, 266 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: let's understand the millions of people that President Biden led 267 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: into the country. Let's understand where they are, who they are, 268 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: why they're here, because very few of them were vetted, 269 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: and for those that don't have any illegal right to 270 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: be here have a final order removal, have had their 271 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: due process before an immigration judge, the Immigration Board of Appeals, 272 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: and likely a circuit judge every time saying that they 273 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: have no legal right to be here. Those are the 274 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: targets that Tom Woman's talking about to say, those are 275 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: the folks that we need to go pick up. And 276 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: I think the legacy media and others, I think at 277 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: times intentionally try to confuse what Ice is doing. They 278 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: continually talk about how Ice is just really nilly driving 279 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: down the street picking up people, you know, because they're brown. 280 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: That's not what Ice is doing. They have targeted packages, 281 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: They know exactly who they're going to pick up, and 282 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: they do that in a very professional way. 283 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: I was struck. The report was that during President Trump's 284 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: first year, Ice arrested forty three thousand potential national security risks, 285 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred known or suspected terrorists and has removed thirteen 286 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety of them and more than seven thousand 287 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: gang members. There's an extraordinary achievement at a time when 288 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: the country under Biden was frankly falling apart, and we 289 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: had all sorts of Venezuelan and Mexican and El Salvador 290 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and gangs running around. I think that even the Democrats 291 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: would say that it was useful to America to be 292 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: able to get rid of fourteen hundred terrorists and seven 293 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: thousand gang members. How do you read the way the 294 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: Democratic Party has decided to react to all of us. 295 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think two things. You know, it's probably a 296 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: heavy dose of Trump derangement syndrome. I think if President 297 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: Trump's for it, they're against it in some sense of 298 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: the word. I think they don't like the way in 299 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: which the President talks about his actions or talks about 300 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: his policy and what he've used is dangerous criminals and 301 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: coming in from Venezuela and others, but the data all 302 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: backs it up. They may not like it, but that's 303 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: not to say that the work shouldn't be done. As 304 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: I've said here recently, I think the majority of Americans 305 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: want ice to do their job, want the border to 306 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: be secure. They want law enforcement in general to do 307 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 4: their job. I would also say, at the same time, 308 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: they don't want to see chaos. They don't want to 309 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: see that on their television screens, so they would rather 310 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 4: have law enforcement just do it quietly, do it in 311 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: the background, make sure the threats get out. But when 312 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: it's constantly on your screen, and you have outlets like 313 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: NBC and CBS. I just did an interview with NBC, 314 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 4: and their intro to our segment was so misleading that 315 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: you would have no idea of the actual facts. So 316 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: I think some people will get confused and lose sight 317 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: of that. But if you look at the results of 318 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: which you just laid out some of that data, you 319 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: have to come to the conclusion that we are undoubtedly 320 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: safer and more secure as a country now than at 321 00:18:40,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: any time during the forty years or president by. 322 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: The Democrats have decided to make a major fight over 323 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: funding ICE, and in the short run, because of the 324 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: emotions coming out of the shooting in Minneapolis, they have 325 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: some advantage. But in the long run, don't they run 326 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: the risk of becoming the party of open borders and 327 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: allowing criminals to stay here and blocking law enforcement. 328 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think they do. 329 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: I think it's almost a throwback to twenty twenty with 330 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: the defund the police and the abolish ICE movement that 331 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: was strong in twenty twenty that I think, ye know, 332 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't good for them in the long run. I 333 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: don't think that the majority of Americans agree with that position. 334 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: As the saying goes, they smell blood in the water, 335 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: and they're going to try to take advantage of this 336 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 4: to shut down the federal government because you don't like 337 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: how ICE is doing its job is wild to me. Right, 338 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: Ice is fulfilling its mission given to them by Congress. 339 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: If you don't like the fact that ICE is picking 340 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: up certain classes of individuals here in the country legally. 341 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: Will then change the law. 342 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: Or if you want to see every ICE officer wear 343 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: a body camera, that's fine. Fund that do certain logical things. 344 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 4: But to simply say I'm going to shut the government 345 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: down because I want to defund ICE, all the public 346 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: safety threats that you just talked about, those would all 347 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: be on the streets the communities out there would be 348 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: far less safe than they are now if ICE wasn't 349 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: doing its job. Because if ICE isn't doing it, if 350 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: ICE isn't removing these individuals, no one else will. No 351 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: one else has the authority to pick up someone from 352 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: Venezuela who's committed a crime, pick them up and to 353 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: remove them back to Venezuela or back to a third country. 354 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 4: No one but ICE has an authority to do that. 355 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: And so all these politicians and basically the Democrats. They 356 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: want to say, I want to defund ICE. What they're 357 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: saying is I want criminal, illegal aliens to stay here 358 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: in the United States. That's what they're saying to the 359 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: American people. 360 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: The other question that I've seen in some chat rooms 361 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: is whether or not some of the opposition to ICE 362 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: is organized and paid for and is a really structured 363 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: effort to obstruct the law. Do you have any sense 364 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: of that? 365 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: I think so. 366 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: I mean, you hear Tom Homan, Director Patel ag Bondi 367 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 4: and others saying that that is something that they are 368 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: actively working on as far as trying to understand the financing, 369 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: who's behind it, and how that network looks. And that's 370 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: probably only a job that the FBI and other investigators 371 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: can do because it's complex and they hide it pretty well. 372 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: But I can just given my experience in what I've 373 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: seen over the years, I can tell you there in Minneapolis, 374 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 4: I would say fifty percent of those violent agitators, probably 375 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 4: even more, are paid, They are networked, they are funded, 376 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: and this is now a professional atmosphere there in Minneapolis. 377 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 4: It's no longer spontaneous, it's no longer just residents they 378 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: are being organized and paid in a way that tells 379 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: you that they have some type of financial backing, And 380 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: I'm as eager as anyone to see what an investigation 381 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 4: into that looks like. 382 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: It strikes me that to have a paid operation to 383 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: obstruct the law is itself illegal. 384 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 385 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: Look, you can pay folks to go out there and 386 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: stand on the street and call ice all sorts of 387 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: names and tell them to get out of their community. 388 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 4: But once they cross that line, right and they start 389 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: impeding and interfering in law enforcement operations, that's against the law. 390 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 4: If you want to assault a law enforcement officer, that's 391 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: a felony. 392 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: Right. 393 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: So as they start to do all these things, most 394 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: of which these days is on tape. 395 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: The difference between the right to protest and the right 396 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: to obstruct is a huge line, and that the whole 397 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: nature of our constitution prohibits you from stopping the govern 398 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: the United States. If the Congress has voted for it, 399 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: the President has signed it, the president is executed it, 400 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: it's now a constitutional act. And if you're out there 401 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: actively organizing to obstruct that act, you clearly ad violate 402 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the law. Whereas you have every right as a citizen 403 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: to out there and complain about it. I mean, you 404 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: write a free speech is not your right of obstruction. 405 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 406 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: And I think that's the point that I've been really 407 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: trying to emphasize over these last several weeks, with all 408 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 4: these different shootings and everything else, particularly this last shooting 409 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: of Alex Preddi. They say, well, he has a concealed carry, 410 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: like that's his constitutional right. And I don't disagree with that. 411 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: If he would have sat on the sidelines and yelled 412 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: at Ice and tell them that they're bad people, or 413 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: whatever it is he wanted to do. But as soon 414 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: as he inserted himself into that law enforcement operation, as 415 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: soon as he pushed an officer, as soon as he 416 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: didn't do what the officer asked, he's now breaking the law. 417 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: And you can't do that. You wouldn't do that. I 418 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: don't think the vast majority of people, if they see 419 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: an FBI criminal operation going down in their neighborhood, I 420 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: don't think they're running up to FBI agents and trying 421 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: to tackle them because they would get arrested or worse. 422 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: And I think most people agree with that. But somehow, 423 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 4: over time, and I think it's largely because of the 424 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 4: Reddit from the left, people are viewing ICE as a 425 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: inferior law enforcement operation, almost like a mall cop where 426 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: you can go up and you can push them, and 427 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 4: you can call them all sorts of names, and then 428 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: you can run away. It won't chase you. They want 429 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: to arrest you. You can spit at them, you can 430 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 4: even assault them and then run away and it's all fine. 431 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: None of that is okay. You're going to get arrested 432 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: or worse right, depending on what you do. And I 433 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 4: think people need to understand that. 434 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: On a totally different topic, I think what you're doing 435 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: and what you're helping lead at America First Policy Institute 436 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: is so important. And I think people because there's really 437 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: been a behind the scenes empower the Trump administration, very 438 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: methodical action rate and operation. Could you just take a 439 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: man or to and talk about your vision of what 440 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: America First Policy is all about and what is trying 441 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: to achieve. 442 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: Sure, we created AFPI and twenty twenty one shortly after 443 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: the first term of the Trump administration and our view 444 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: at that time and it continues to be our view, 445 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: which is this America First sort of renaissance that President 446 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: Trump brought in in the first term, the policies if 447 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: you look at the policies of that America First movement 448 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: and agenda, these are policies that benefit every American across 449 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: all issue sets, not just ice and homeland security, but 450 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 4: the economy and healthcare. And so we went to work 451 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: at AFPI, certainly during the Biden administration to say there's 452 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: a different way to look at our challenges here in 453 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: the United States. And then, of course as President Trump 454 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 4: comes to power, we did a lot of work to 455 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 4: help his administration get a head start on that through 456 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: some transition and planning and others. So there's a lot 457 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: of conservative think tanks around town that have been around 458 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: DC for a lot of time. We like to think 459 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: that we've got some newer thoughts and realistic A lot 460 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: of people at AFPI have been in the government, so 461 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: we know what works and doesn't work, just faith, freedom, strong, 462 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: national security. But to do that in an America First approach, 463 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: sometimes we buck the trend, just like President Trump does. 464 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes we buck the trend, but we see a new 465 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: way of looking at all of these challenges in a 466 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 4: little different light than historically has been looked at. 467 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: You're an action tank more than a think. 468 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: Tank, A do tank. We like to say, yeah, do tank. 469 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: I like that. Listen. I want to thank you for 470 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: joining me. Our listeners can learn more about America First 471 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: Policy Institute and the great work you are doing by 472 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: visiting your website at America firstpolicy dot com. And I 473 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: thought this was a very helpful conversation. 474 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 475 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I think Tom Holman's press conference in Minneapolis on Thursday 476 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: morning was very important and informative. So I'd like to 477 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: play it in its entirety for you now without any 478 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: commercial interruption. 479 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: I've been on the ground less than three full days. 480 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: I got in here on Monday. President in the United 481 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 5: States call me Monday morning and asked me to deploy here, 482 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 5: got here Monday evening, and I'm staying to the proms gone. 483 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: But we've made a lot of progress, a lot of 484 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 5: progress in the last three days. Maruncles Charles, he's running 485 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 5: ice operations. 486 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: Here. 487 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: There you go, Roddy Scott, Commissioner of Customers and Board 488 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 5: Protections standing here Eciton. 489 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: Good morning. 490 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: I'm Tom Holman, and the boarders are for President Trump. 491 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 5: I'm here on behalf of the president along with us Commissioners, 492 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 5: You Commissioner, your customers of war Detection Writing Scott and 493 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 5: Marcus Charles, who's leading the enforcement effort. 494 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: Here right now. 495 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: I've been on the ground since Monday to regain law 496 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: and order in the city blood by May and work 497 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 5: together to remove threats. 498 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: From the community. 499 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: During the past administration, we'll all remember, more than ten 500 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: million illegal aliens entered this nation. Many were national security threats, 501 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 5: public safety threats. We can't remember. We're two million, two 502 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: million known guideways. Two million people he paid more to 503 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: get away. Why that's just scary to hell out everybody. 504 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 5: President Trump promised American people, including their residence of Minnesota, 505 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: that he would work to ensure our communities are safe. 506 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 5: And with that, this administration is absolutely focused on identifying 507 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 5: removal aliens that post a public safety threat and national 508 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: security threats. And the numbers prove it, the data proves it. 509 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 5: In the past few days, I've met with Governor Waltz, 510 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 5: Attorney General Ellison, Mayor Fry, numerous police chiefs and sheriffs, 511 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: and I have more to meet. I'll also be continuing 512 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 5: the dialogue with business and religious leaders in partnership with Minnesota, 513 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: your communities I'll be meeting with them too. I want 514 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: to hear where they have to say. In my meetings 515 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: with folks so far and most important to governor and 516 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 5: the ag the mayor Fry, we didn't agree on everything. 517 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 5: I didn't expect to agree on anything. I've heard many 518 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 5: people want to know why we're talking to people who 519 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 5: they don't consider friends and administration. Bottom line is, you 520 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: can't fix problems if you don't have discussions. I didn't 521 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: come to Minnesota for a photo headlines you haven't seen me. 522 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 5: I came here to seek solutions, and that's what we're 523 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: going to do. 524 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: And we. 525 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: Come a long way, and we got some good wins 526 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 5: for the people in Minnesota, I think, and for the 527 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: administration and for the safety security of this city. One 528 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: thing we did agree on, though everybody I talked to 529 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: agreed on it's a community safety's paramount. One thing we 530 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 5: all agreed on was US Immigration Customers Forcement is a 531 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 5: legitimate law enforcement agency as a duty to enforce the 532 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: laws and acted by Congress and keep this community safe. 533 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: Like I've said many times for the last several years, 534 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 5: even before this administration, jurisdictions that refused to cooperate with 535 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 5: federal immigration authorities are sanctuaries for criminals. Sanctuary cities are 536 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 5: sanctuaries criminals and endangers the residence of the community. To 537 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: be clear, we did not agree with Minnesota state and 538 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 5: local officials that they would be involved in immigration enforcement. 539 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 5: I didn't ask them to be immigration officers. I'm mastering 540 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: in be cops, working with the cops the whole estate 541 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 5: criminal amiens up the street. What we did agree upon 542 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 5: is not to release public safety rest back in the 543 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 5: community and they could be lawfully transferred ICE. 544 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: I'll speak more about that. 545 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: I will highlight that the Minnesota State prison system under 546 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 5: the Department of Corrections have been honoring ICE detainers and 547 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: we appreciate that important collaboration, and we're going to expand 548 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: upon that. That decision has made Minnesota safer, not only 549 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 5: for residents of Minnesota, but the men and women law 550 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 5: enforcement now just s ICE all law enforcement. Rather than 551 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 5: arresting the same public safety threat significant public safety threat 552 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: over and over again, they agree to work with us 553 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 5: to identify as people and remove them. I'm also pleased 554 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 5: to announce I had a very good meeting with Attorney 555 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 5: General Attorney General Elison, and he has clarified for me 556 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 5: that county jails may notify ICE of the release dates 557 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 5: of criminal public safety risks, so ICE can take custody 558 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 5: upon the release from the jail. And let me tell 559 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: you why that's important. I know people are not concerned, 560 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 5: but the manpower has been set in law enforcement manpower. Look, 561 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: I've said this many times before. I've said it for 562 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: the last several years. Give us access to the illegal alien, 563 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: public safety threat, and the safety and security of a jail. 564 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 5: It's common sense. It's safer for the community, is safer 565 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 5: for the agent, and they're safer for the alien because 566 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 5: anything happen on the street. 567 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: To us, it just makes common sense. 568 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: And for the people that argue, well, we're welcoming community 569 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: whose we want victims and witnesses of crime that are 570 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 5: here illegally to feel safe to come to police without 571 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 5: fear of work with ICE. We're not going to talk 572 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: to the victim witness of crime. There's no problem there. 573 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 5: They should feel safe to come to the police and 574 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 5: ask for help. All we want is to talk to 575 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 5: the person that local and state law enforcement authorities locked 576 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 5: in the jail cell. They chose to lock this person up. 577 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: That's where we want to talk to the public safety threat. 578 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 5: So that argument is that protects victim witnesses of crime, 579 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 5: But it's a bunch of crap. Victims and witnesses witnesses 580 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 5: of crime don't want the bad guy back in their 581 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 5: neighborhood either. So great progress. We're there with the Attorney 582 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 5: General and local sheriffs. And one thing when we have 583 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 5: these agreements, it takes less law enforcement agents to do 584 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 5: the job. One agent can arrest one bad guy in 585 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 5: the safety and security of a jail. Well, he's behind 586 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 5: the wire. We know we don't have weapons. But when 587 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 5: you normally release that public safety threat, illegal alien back 588 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 5: in the community, we have a job to do. 589 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: We're going to arrest them. 590 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: So we're going to find them. And what happens is, 591 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: now we've got to arrest somebody on his turf. We 592 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 5: as access to who knows what weapons. Now we've got 593 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: to send the whole team out covered back or car 594 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: to the front or officer safeties. Then, because of the hateful 595 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 5: rhetoric in the attacks on ice officers, now we got 596 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 5: to send a security team behind the arrest team. So 597 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 5: what could have been done with one person a safety 598 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 5: and security jail now we got fifteen sixteen people out 599 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: there doing it. I know that causes stress in the community. 600 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 5: So if we get these agreements in place, that means 601 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 5: less agents on the street, more agents in the jail, 602 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 5: it means less agents in the street. This is common 603 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 5: sense cooperation that allows to draw down on the number 604 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 5: of people we have here. Yes, I said it draw 605 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 5: down the number of people here because we have the 606 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 5: efficiency and safety of the jails in the prison. A 607 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 5: matter of fact, I have staff from CBP and from 608 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 5: ICE working on a draw down plan. What does that 609 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 5: look like based on the close operation? What does that 610 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 5: look like based on how many targets we have less 611 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 5: to find. In my meetings of Governor Walsh, A. G 612 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 5: Ellison and Mayor Fry, as well as state and local 613 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: law enforcement, again, I appreciate the all acknowledge that we 614 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 5: do have federal immigration laws in this country that have 615 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 5: been passed by Congress, and that ICE is in fact 616 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 5: a legitimate law enforcement agency charge would enforcing those laws. 617 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 5: We're not making us up, folks. ICE is enforcement laws 618 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: enacted by Congress. They're a federal statute that said I'm 619 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 5: not here because of the federal government has carried its 620 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 5: mission out perfectly. The first thing I said to senior 621 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 5: staff and I walked in here. That is why I 622 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 5: told you. I didn't come here looking photo opicer headlines. 623 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 5: I come here looking for solutions. I do not want 624 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: to hear that everything's been done here has been perfect. 625 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 5: Nothing's ever perfect, and anything can be improved on. And 626 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 5: what we've been working on is making this operation safer, 627 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: more efficient. By the book, the mission is going to 628 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 5: improve because of the changes we're making it internally. No 629 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 5: agency organization is perfect. The President Trump and I, along 630 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 5: with others and administration have recognized as certain improvements could 631 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 5: and should be made. That's exactly what I'm doing here. 632 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 5: As such, and meetings I've had to a federal law 633 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 5: enforcement managers including ICE and CBP and other federal partners, 634 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 5: as well as state and local officials, I have conveyed 635 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 5: the President's expectations in regard to federal immigration enforcement efforts. 636 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 5: We will conduct targeted enforcement operations, targeting what we've done 637 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 5: for decades. When we hit the streets, we know exactly 638 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 5: who we're looking for. Good idea where we may find them. 639 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 5: You have a criminal history, you have their immigration history, 640 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 5: A lot of information about this person that we get 641 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 5: from numerous databases out there, targeted strategic enforcement operations. That's 642 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 5: traditionally been the case, and that's where we're going. That's 643 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 5: where we're going to continue to do and improve upon 644 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 5: that with a prioritization on public safety threats. I want 645 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 5: to be clear. I don't read a lot of social media. 646 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 5: I don't read a lot of media. I don't believe 647 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 5: half far I see. We are not surrendering the President's 648 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 5: mission and immigration enforcement. Let's make that clear. Prioritization of 649 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 5: criminal hamage, let's mean that we forget. 650 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: About everybody else. That's just simply ridiculous. 651 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 5: But when you have a criminal standing here and a 652 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 5: non criminal standing there, that criminal. 653 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 2: Always should be targeted. 654 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 5: Percose, He's a significant concern to the safety and security 655 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 5: administer of the community by at large. For decades, icened 656 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 5: CBP have carried out their duties with integrity, professionalism, and compassion. 657 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 5: That remains the expectation of the President Trump and we will. 658 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 5: I will hold our agents and officers to that standard. 659 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 5: I'm almost done, and Tom can be Tom. As far 660 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: as the agitators best said, I want to reiterate and 661 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 5: make very clear I want to make it clear ICE 662 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 5: and c CBP officers are performing their duties in a 663 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 5: challenging environment, under tremendous circumstances. What they're trying to do 664 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 5: with professionalism. If they don't, they'll be dealt with like 665 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 5: any other federal agency, we have standards of conduct. They 666 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 5: are sworn law enforcement officers working tirestly to enforce our 667 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: country's border security immigration laws, protecting the interests of our 668 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 5: country and preventing dangerous people from walking the streets to 669 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 5: this nation where they're not supposed to be here. To 670 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 5: begin with, men and women, I was a boragilation, I 671 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 5: was an ICE ag I was the first ICE director, 672 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 5: came up through the ranks. I spent over forty years 673 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 5: doing this. These men and women that carry that badge 674 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 5: and gun are American patriots. They put themselves on the 675 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 5: line for this nation every day. 676 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: I want you to remember. 677 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 5: They don't hang their badge, They don't hang their heart 678 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 5: on a hook every day to come to work. Their 679 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 5: mothers and fathers too, their sons and daughters too. If 680 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 5: they've seen a fraction of the tragedies I see in 681 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 5: my career, they take a lot of damage home to 682 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 5: every day. The things they've seen, especially sha on the 683 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 5: border board pass, people drowning the river, women being raped 684 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 5: by criminal cartels. Given a cp CPR to a baby 685 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 5: Elstown on the river by the cartels because Bortos came 686 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 5: too close, So let's throw the baby in the river 687 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 5: that way. The Bordertoe was concentrated on that so I 688 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 5: can get away. These men and women see some terrible things. 689 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 5: I want to remember their mothers and fathers. 690 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: Too. 691 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 5: Many are members of the community. God bless every one 692 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 5: of them. The hostile rhetoric and dangerous threats and hate 693 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 5: must stop, and we all agreed to that. All everybody 694 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 5: met here to tell you we got to stop the rhetoric, 695 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: the hateful reddic that has caused an increase in assaults 696 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 5: that calls because of that, has to send security teams 697 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 5: out with the rest teams, which serves the city with 698 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 5: additional resources because of the rhetic, because of the threats, 699 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 5: because of the assaults. Again, with the agreements we've achieved 700 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 5: in following three's the agreements with the rhetic dropping down 701 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 5: that allows us to pull more agents out once we 702 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 5: feel the environment's safer. I begged for the last two 703 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 5: months on TV for the ridic to stop. I said 704 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 5: in March, if the rhetoric didn't stop, there's going to 705 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 5: be bloodshed, and there has been. I wish I wasn't right. 706 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 5: I don't want to see anybody die. Not officers, not 707 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 5: members of the community, are not the targets of our operations. 708 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 5: But if people out there don't like what I was doing, 709 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 5: if you want certain laws reformed, and take it up 710 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 5: with Congress again, ICE is making this up there enforcing 711 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 5: laws and acted by Congress and signed by President. The 712 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 5: same laws have been on the books for the last 713 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 5: six presidents I worked for. I started with a President 714 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 5: Reagan and ending with President Trump. Every administration we enforced 715 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 5: the same laws. If you don't like what ICE just doing. 716 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 5: Instead of protests in this building to protest, condress some 717 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 5: we want changes. If you have the First Amendment rights, 718 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 5: I support that. If you have the right to protest, 719 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 5: I'm just asking to keep it peaceing, but threading and 720 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 5: law enforcement officers engaging and impeding and obstruction and assault 721 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 5: is never okay, and there will be zero tolerance. You interfere, 722 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: imped assault and ICE officers, you will be arrested. Like 723 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 5: I said a bit earlier my meetings with Governor Watson, Ellison, 724 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 5: and Frey, as well as state and local law enforcement. 725 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 5: I appreciate they acknowledged this public safety should be paramount. 726 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 5: The chiefs I've talked to committed to responding to nine 727 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 5: to one room calls when protesters turn viinment agents are 728 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 5: in a dangerous situation and there's assaults. They have committed 729 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 5: upholding public safety and responding to the needs not to 730 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 5: enforce immigration law, but to keep the peace. With that, 731 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 5: I call upon those officials stand shoulders shoulder with us 732 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 5: to tone down the dangerous writer and condemn unlawful action 733 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 5: against law enforcement in the community. There are many ways 734 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 5: of voice. Do your voice can be heard, express your 735 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 5: feelings and effect changing the country acrossing that line, but 736 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 5: look and other disagreements in this realm should not be 737 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 5: expensive public safety or the safety of federal enforcement officers. 738 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 5: And closing, I want to thank the state local officials 739 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 5: here in Minnesota I met with and the many I'm 740 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 5: going to meet with. We've had meaning, meaningful dialogue and 741 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 5: look again, I didn't we didn't agree on everything, but 742 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 5: we agreed on the things I just talked about. There's 743 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 5: much more we can do, and I'm going to continue 744 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 5: his dialogues. I've got many more community leaders to talk to, 745 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 5: i got many more shares to meet. President Trump wants 746 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 5: this fixed. 747 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: And I'm going to fix it with your help. 748 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 5: I want to thank President Trump was on the way 749 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 5: when commitment to public safety and prosperity of every American. 750 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 5: Under President's leadership, we have the most secure border in 751 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 5: the history of this nation, which means less women are 752 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 5: being raped, less children are dying a crossing that border, 753 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 5: less fat and all is getting this country to kill 754 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 5: Americans less, no expected terraces acrossing that country. And we 755 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 5: don't have two many and unknown, Godly, we don't know 756 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 5: who the hell they are. Secure boarding we sent we 757 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 5: have stronger national security, Secure boarder saved lives when ninety 758 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 5: six percent less people coming. How many women aren't being 759 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 5: sexy just total beend members of the cartel. How many 760 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 5: people aren't dying making that journey. How many Americans aren't 761 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 5: dying if not all overdoses. How many women and children 762 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 5: aren't being sex traffic in this nation. The data proves, 763 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 5: and we can find that data. So God bless this 764 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 5: great nation, God blessed Minnesota. We can do better, and 765 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 5: I think the local state policy of leaders meeting with me, 766 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 5: we made some significant gains, significant coordination and cooperation, and 767 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 5: you're going to see some massive changes ocurring here in 768 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 5: the city. 769 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest, Chad woof new Tworld is 770 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: produced by Gagers three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer 771 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: is Guernsey Slump. Our researcher is Rich Peterson. Our work 772 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: for the show was created by Steve Penley. 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