WEBVTT - Benghazi: Episode 3 - Barefoot

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Hey Leon here, Before we get to this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>note this episode contains descriptions of violence some listeners may

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<v Speaker 1>find disturbing. Previously on Fiasco.

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<v Speaker 2>The Arab Spring had arrived in Libya.

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<v Speaker 1>They were saying, wake up, wake up, Benghazi.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the day.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, It's not usual to send in a diplomat and

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<v Speaker 2>basically say make your way.

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<v Speaker 5>I was very worried about it. Secure it eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Six months after the uprising, Olivia is flooded with weapons

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<v Speaker 1>and faces a potential power vacuum. The country is now

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<v Speaker 1>at risk of being taken over by extremists.

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<v Speaker 2>You Americans need to watch out because the people who

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<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with are not your friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Man plus X equals Islamic terrorist.

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<v Speaker 5>Islamic terrorist minus X.

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<v Speaker 4>Equals man.

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<v Speaker 3>But what is X?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a scene from a low budget movie

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<v Speaker 1>called Innocence of Muslims. It's not even really a movie technically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fourteen minute trailer for a movie that was

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<v Speaker 1>never released. The trailer was posted on YouTube in July

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Muhammed is all a messenger and the Kuwan is a constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>The Innocence of Muslims video is a crude piece of

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<v Speaker 1>anti Islamic propaganda. In it, the Islamic prophet Mohammad is

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<v Speaker 1>played by a boyish white actor, and he's depicted as

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<v Speaker 1>a charlatan, a womanizer, and a bloodthirsty tyrant.

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<v Speaker 6>He kills men, captures women, and chills men, and what's more,

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<v Speaker 6>he does this all in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Name of God.

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<v Speaker 7>What God is this?

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<v Speaker 1>The video was produced in California by an Egyptian American

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<v Speaker 1>man named Nicula Basselli. Nicula he said he made the

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<v Speaker 1>film in protest of violence perpetrated around the world by

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<v Speaker 1>Islamic extremists. It was an amateurish production. Nicula used his

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<v Speaker 1>own house as a sound stage. He hired the actors

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<v Speaker 1>through backstage dot Com and told them they were shooting

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<v Speaker 1>an epic called Desert Warriors. According to the script he

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<v Speaker 1>gave them, the film wasn't about Mohammed at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>just some guy named George. It was only in post

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<v Speaker 1>production that the name Mohammad was dubbed. In raised him

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<v Speaker 1>as one of your slaves.

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<v Speaker 5>If you must, what shall I call you?

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Mohammed the father unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>Nikola had his twenty one year old son post the

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<v Speaker 1>video online and for a while it went virtually unseen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then about two months later, in September of twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>a new version of the video appeared on YouTube, this

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<v Speaker 1>time translated into Arabic.

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<v Speaker 5>A mis alhand.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon miss when clips from the video aired an Egyptian

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<v Speaker 1>television with heated commentary from a pundit who called it

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<v Speaker 1>unspeakable and asked how long will I be called a

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist for growing my beard? The video exploded in Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>Political leaders and preachers publicly denounced it, and popular Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>groups called for protests. As tensions continued to rise, the

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<v Speaker 1>American Embassy in Cairo decided to address the video. Around

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<v Speaker 1>noon on September eleventh, they released a written statement.

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<v Speaker 8>Saying quote the Embassy of the United States and Cairo

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<v Speaker 8>condemns the continuing efforts misguided individuals to hurt the religious

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<v Speaker 8>feelings of Muslims. As we condemn efforts to offend believers

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<v Speaker 8>of all religions.

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<v Speaker 1>The statement did little to quell the outrage in Cairo.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a matter of hours, hundreds of protesters had gathered

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<v Speaker 1>outside the American embassy.

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<v Speaker 6>Developing story out of Cairo, Egypt. I understand that protesters

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<v Speaker 6>are outside the US embassy. They are there are about

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<v Speaker 6>a thousand of them, and protesters have, from what we understand,

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<v Speaker 6>storm the walls of the embassy and pull down US flags.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the protesters scaled the walls, tearing down an

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<v Speaker 1>American flag and setting it on fire.

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<v Speaker 6>Egyptian riot police are on the scene and they are

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<v Speaker 6>trying to protect the walls.

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<v Speaker 8>They are protesting a video they say the fames the

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<v Speaker 8>prophet Muhammad Egyptian.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cairo protest was only the latest flare up in

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<v Speaker 1>a long running conflict over the depiction of Mohammad.

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<v Speaker 6>Muslim protesters directed more violent anger today against newspapers in

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<v Speaker 6>Denmark and other European countries that have printed cartoons of

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<v Speaker 6>Mohammad from Cairo day.

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<v Speaker 1>In most Islamic practices, it's considered blasphemists to create any

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<v Speaker 1>visual representation of Mohammed. Over the years, some self described

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<v Speaker 1>secularists have made a point of violating that rule in

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<v Speaker 1>the name of free speech.

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<v Speaker 8>Against cartoons portraying the prophet Mohammed as violent womanizing, first

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<v Speaker 8>published in Denmark and since in seventeen other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most dramatic examples occurred back in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, after a Danish newspaper published several cartoons

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<v Speaker 1>of Mohamed and protests broke out across the Arab world.

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<v Speaker 1>They were Muslim protests in at least a dozen countries today,

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<v Speaker 1>now in Cairo. In twenty twelve, it looked like the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing again, with Egyptians rising up against the deliberate

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<v Speaker 1>provocation that had originated in the West. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>happening on the anniversary of the September eleventh attacks, when

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<v Speaker 1>American embassies across the region were on high alert.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the embassy was closed for business that day as

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<v Speaker 2>a security measure, and we were working from our compound

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Gregory Hicks. In twenty twelve, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>deputy Chief of the American Mission in Libya, Chris Stevens's

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<v Speaker 1>number two at the embassy in Tripoli. On September eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks had been left in charge while Stevens took a

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<v Speaker 1>short trip to Benghazi.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember texting Chris in Benghazi and asking him,

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<v Speaker 2>are you watching what's going on in Cairo?

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens told Hicks he had been unaware of the protests

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<v Speaker 1>for all the tensions erupting in Egypt over the Innocence

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<v Speaker 1>Muslims video.

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<v Speaker 2>Libya was quiet, and then when the sun went down,

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of relieved, wiping the sweat off our brows,

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<v Speaker 2>that we had not been targeted in Tripoli and they

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<v Speaker 2>had not been targeted in Benghazi.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like the day had passed without incident. Hicks

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<v Speaker 1>was relieved.

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<v Speaker 2>I had basically said, Okay, we're good, We're through the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine to eleven is going to be over. And the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing that happened was in Cairo. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>went to watch a television program and about nine forty

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<v Speaker 2>five or thereabouts, John Martinick, the RSO, ran up to

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<v Speaker 2>my room. He's yelling Greg, Greg the consulates under attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks checked his phone and saw missed calls from both

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<v Speaker 1>Ambassador Stevens and a number he didn't recognize. He tried

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<v Speaker 1>to call back, but no one picked up. Then Hicks

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<v Speaker 1>got through to Stevens by dialing the unknown number and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, Greg, we're under attack. I think I said okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and before I could say anything else, he cut the line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Leon Navak from Prologued Projects and Pushkin Industries. This

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<v Speaker 1>is fiasco Benghazi.

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<v Speaker 7>I could hear these shots. I can heard the greenades.

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<v Speaker 5>I turned to the ambassador and said, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>start shooting, and when I die I want you to

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<v Speaker 5>pick up my rifle and keep on fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's taken to a hospital and the government won't tell

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<v Speaker 2>us where it is.

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<v Speaker 3>We already got the buddy, we got the remains.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought I was alone. I thought everybody else was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode three, Barefoot, The Attack in Benghazi. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris arrived to Bengazi Airport Monday morning, Monday. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the day, was September tenth, So I was there at

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<v Speaker 3>the airport to we'll come here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Baker Habib, born and raised in Libya. He

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<v Speaker 1>started working with the State Department when the US reconciled

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<v Speaker 1>with the Gadafi regime after the Libyan Revolution. Habib became

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<v Speaker 1>especially close with Chris Stevens. When Stevens was posted in

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<v Speaker 1>Benghazi as an envoy to the anti Gaddafi opposition. Now

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<v Speaker 1>with Gaddafi gone, Stephens was coming back to Benghazi to

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<v Speaker 1>check in with his local contacts.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember when I told him was came back,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, I'm pretty glad to be back home.

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<v Speaker 3>So he considered Bengazi as home.

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<v Speaker 1>Why exactly Stephens decided to make his trip to Benghazi

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<v Speaker 1>when he did has never been firmly established, but the

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<v Speaker 1>general reason was that he understood the city's importance as

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<v Speaker 1>one of Libya's cultural and political centers. Benghazi was the

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<v Speaker 1>seat of the revolution that had toppled Gadafi. If Tripoli

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<v Speaker 1>was Libya's Washington d C. Benghazi was New York or LA.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephens believed that the US needed a strong presence there

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<v Speaker 1>Island Town, Stevens was going to preside over the opening

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<v Speaker 1>of a kind of study center at a local school

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<v Speaker 1>that was owned and operated by Baker Habib. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be called the American Corner. The idea was that Libyans

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<v Speaker 1>could take English classes there, find information on college admissions

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, and so on. It would be an

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<v Speaker 1>engine of what some might call American soft power. When

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens arrived in Benghazi. He and Habib set about finalizing

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<v Speaker 1>the details for the opening.

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<v Speaker 3>I spent all day long with him on Monday and Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 7>I went out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm back again. Last time I saw him it was

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<v Speaker 3>about fiveish. He had an appointment with the Turkish councilor

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<v Speaker 3>at that time, so I would say the last time

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<v Speaker 3>I saw Chris Stevens, I walked with him, it was

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<v Speaker 3>about five five ten something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>After Habib left, Stevens took his last meeting of the

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<v Speaker 1>day with a Turkish diplomat at the American Compound.

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<v Speaker 5>Our compound was in a residential neighborhood and it didn't

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<v Speaker 5>look unlike any of the other houses in the area,

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<v Speaker 5>so about as long as one of their blocks, like

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<v Speaker 5>a city block almost. It had cement walls all the

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<v Speaker 5>way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Scott Wickland, trained in the Navy as a

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<v Speaker 1>specialist in conducting rescue missions. In twenty twelve, he was

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<v Speaker 1>working for the State Department as a DS agent DS

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<v Speaker 1>short for Diplomatic Security. On September eleventh, Wickland was on

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<v Speaker 1>day forty one of a seventy day posting at the

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<v Speaker 1>compound in Benghazi.

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<v Speaker 5>We had four buildings on it a little orchard on it.

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<v Speaker 5>We had a pool. We had a soccer field where

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<v Speaker 5>the guards would play soccer, and sometimes we would go

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<v Speaker 5>play with them.

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<v Speaker 1>As you heard in episode two, the American compound in

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<v Speaker 1>Benghazi had been leased by the State Department after the

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<v Speaker 1>Libyan Revolution. The four structures on the grounds included a

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<v Speaker 1>barracks for local Libyan guards, a canteen, and a building

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<v Speaker 1>known as Villas, where Stevens slept and met with visitors.

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<v Speaker 1>After Stevens's final meeting of the night, business at the

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<v Speaker 1>compound began to wind down, Stevens retired to his residence

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<v Speaker 1>in Villa C. One of his State Department colleagues, an

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<v Speaker 1>IT specialist named Sean Smith, was in his bedroom in

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<v Speaker 1>the same building, playing a video game called Evonline and

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with other gamers. One DS agent was in the

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<v Speaker 1>compound security center. Scott Wickland and two other agents were outside.

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<v Speaker 5>At the end of the evening. We were sitting by

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<v Speaker 5>the pool and talking. You know, I was wearing flip flops,

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of relaxing.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a little after nine thirty pm, Wickland heard a

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<v Speaker 1>sound in the distance.

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<v Speaker 5>It sounded like chanting to me, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 5>crowd chanting something. I didn't know what it was, and

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<v Speaker 5>then the sound kind of came nearer and nearer, approaching

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<v Speaker 5>the compound, and when I made out alahu Akbar. With

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<v Speaker 5>our current risk profile, we need to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Wickland and the other DS agents snapped into action.

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<v Speaker 5>We're already stressed out because the ambassadors here. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous location at September eleventh, we're on this kind of

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<v Speaker 5>high alert. We don't know if they're armed, we don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if they're peaceful. We just don't know. And the

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<v Speaker 5>automatic response from my end was I need to go

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<v Speaker 5>get ready in case. So I turned to the other

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<v Speaker 5>guys and I said, go get your stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The DS agents who were with Wickland by the pool

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<v Speaker 1>ran to get their weapons. Wickland already had some of

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<v Speaker 1>his gear with him, so he took the role of

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<v Speaker 1>securing Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith, the IT specialist. Both

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<v Speaker 1>of them were in the living quarters of Villa C,

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<v Speaker 1>which were separated from the main area by what Wickland

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<v Speaker 1>describes as a metal jail cell door.

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<v Speaker 5>I ran into Phili C and the building ran over

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<v Speaker 5>into kind of our living area, and I locked this

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<v Speaker 5>jail cell door. You could like stick your arm through

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<v Speaker 5>the door, but a person could not crawl through.

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<v Speaker 1>As Wickland secured the villa's living quarters, he could tell

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<v Speaker 1>that the group he had heard approaching the compound was

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<v Speaker 1>breaching the main gate outside. It appeared that most of

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<v Speaker 1>the Libyan guards on duty had scattered, allowing the attackers

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<v Speaker 1>to rush in effectively unopposed. Sean Smith tapped out a

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<v Speaker 1>message to the people he was playing video games with.

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<v Speaker 5>Fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote, gunfire. Wickland ran into his bedroom and put

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<v Speaker 1>on body armor and a helmet.

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<v Speaker 5>And as soon as I came out of my bedroom,

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<v Speaker 5>Investor Stevens was standing kind of in this common area.

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<v Speaker 5>He was ready for bed, you know. He was wearing

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<v Speaker 5>shorts and like a white T shirt. He had his

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<v Speaker 5>body armor with him in his helmet and he was

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<v Speaker 5>kind of finishing putting that on, and right away I

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<v Speaker 5>told him that we needed to get him in the

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<v Speaker 5>safe haven. Seawn Smith came out shortly after that, and

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<v Speaker 5>I put Shawn Smith in the safe haven and we sat.

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<v Speaker 1>The safe haven was essentially a big closet surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>cement walls. Wickland turned off the lights as he ushered

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens and Smith inside.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a sliding door on it that I had opened.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was kind of kneeling in the entryway of

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<v Speaker 5>the save haven, and I had a shotgun, a pistol

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<v Speaker 5>and an M four And I think that this is

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<v Speaker 5>actually where I kicked off my sandals, because crouching down

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<v Speaker 5>on sandals it just wasn't comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Now barefoot, Wickland steadied his M four rifle in the

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<v Speaker 1>darkness of the safe haven and waited. Around nine pm,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Stevens's friend, Baker Habib got a call from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the DS agents in the compound. He addressed Habibe

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<v Speaker 1>by the nickname Stevens had given him Bo.

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<v Speaker 3>The diplomatic security agents. One of them he called me

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<v Speaker 3>and tell me, hey, Bo aranda attack. So for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't possess my reaction. Oh and there is sand

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<v Speaker 3>at that time. What he meant by attack, it cannot be.

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<v Speaker 1>Habib didn't want to believe that the compound was under attack,

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<v Speaker 1>but he knew what he was hearing.

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<v Speaker 7>I could hear these shots. I can heard the grenades.

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<v Speaker 1>Habib jumped in his car and headed to the compound

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<v Speaker 1>where he had been with Chris Stevens four hours earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>From his position in the safe haven, Scott Wickland could

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<v Speaker 1>hear the gunfire too. He could also hear the attackers

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<v Speaker 1>begin to hit the main doors of villas trying to

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<v Speaker 1>break in. Then suddenly he could see them.

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<v Speaker 5>I could see through the jail cell door into this

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<v Speaker 5>entryway into Villa C, which is where I saw all

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<v Speaker 5>the attackers rush in when they finally blew open the doors.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw him come in the building and I saw,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that they were carrying weapons. I saw AK

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<v Speaker 5>forty seven's the RPG, I saw grenades. I knew that

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<v Speaker 5>we were in trouble. I was immediately on the radio saying,

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<v Speaker 5>where is everybody? Where's my backup? Where are you guys?

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<v Speaker 5>And I had to whisper because people were in the building,

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<v Speaker 5>and I said, they're in the building. I need immediate assistance.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said this over and over, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>hear a response.

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<v Speaker 1>There were four other DS agents in the compound, but

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<v Speaker 1>none of them were answering Wicklan's calls.

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<v Speaker 5>I was scared, wondering if, like the other guys, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>were they killed, you know, were they captured? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>As the attackers rushed into the villa, Wickland could hear

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<v Speaker 1>the commotion they were causing. It sounded like they were

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<v Speaker 1>breaking glass, ripping paintings off the walls, and destroying furniture.

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<v Speaker 5>As people started to flood into the building, I start thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 5>this is it. I mean, it's only a matter of

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<v Speaker 5>time before they come over and find us. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 5>two individuals came over to the jail cell door. One

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<v Speaker 5>of the individuals started fumbling with one of his grenades,

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<v Speaker 5>and I thought, you know, he's going to blow the

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<v Speaker 5>locks up with his grenades. And that's when I turned

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<v Speaker 5>to the ambassador and said, if they blow the locks,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to start shooting, and when I die, I

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<v Speaker 5>want you to pick got my rifle and keep on fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Wickland trained the site of his rifle on the chest

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the men standing at the jail cell door,

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<v Speaker 1>but he held his fire, figuring that as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>he pulled the trigger, he would reveal his location to

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<v Speaker 1>all the other attackers.

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<v Speaker 5>Instead of using the grenades, one of the guys uses

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<v Speaker 5>the butt of his rifle and just kind of bangs

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<v Speaker 5>on the door a little bit, but nothing happened. After that,

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<v Speaker 5>they turned and walked away. That was a massive sigh

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<v Speaker 5>of relief for me. I thought, my gosh, maybe we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to survive. Maybe we're going to be in the clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after that, Wicklan saw the attackers start to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the building and he breathed the tentative sigh of relief.

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<v Speaker 5>What I didn't realize was that they had taken some

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<v Speaker 5>fuel cans and started pouring it on all those broken

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<v Speaker 5>frames and the furniture, and they lit it on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>The compound had recently acquired a new generator. It was

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<v Speaker 1>stored near the main gate, next to big jugs of

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<v Speaker 1>diesel fuel. It seemed that before leaving the villa, the

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<v Speaker 1>attackers had poured the fuel all over the premises.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a hint of that smell, and it was smoke,

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<v Speaker 5>and I didn't know how bad it was. I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I couldn't see any fire. I couldn't tell it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I could smell it. And then I knew, well,

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<v Speaker 5>now we have a different problem on our hands.

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<v Speaker 1>From his post in Tripoli, four hundred miles away, Deputy

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Mission Greg Hicks was trying to get a

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<v Speaker 1>handle on what was happening in ben Ghazi. He had

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to Stevens just after nine forty five PM when

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens told him the mission was under attack. Now Hicks

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<v Speaker 1>had to figure out how to help.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing I'm doing is, Okay, track down all

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<v Speaker 2>of our embassy leadership people, get them to the operations center,

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<v Speaker 2>and say get on the horn with everybody you know

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<v Speaker 2>and find out what exactly is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks and his colleagues in Tripoli developed a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>phone tree. Some were trying to reach the DS agents

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<v Speaker 1>of the compound. Meanwhile, Hicks was communicating with Libyan government

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<v Speaker 1>officials in hopes of mobilizing some kind of rescue.

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<v Speaker 2>I was calling senior officials in the government in Tripoli

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<v Speaker 2>because they are the individuals who have the responsibility to react.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was a criminal attack on a diplomatic

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<v Speaker 2>facility in Libyan territory.

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<v Speaker 1>But the process was hampered by the reality of telecommunication

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<v Speaker 1>in Libya. Service inside the embassy was so unreliable that

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks and his team had to go outside to their courtyard.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all walking around. It's dead dark except for the

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<v Speaker 2>stars overhead and the like that are on in our compound,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're all walking around dousing for telephone signals. When

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<v Speaker 2>we got the signal, we would immediately start dialing on

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<v Speaker 2>our phones frantically to try to make the next phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we would ammeble like kind of come together

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<v Speaker 2>and we would share the information that we had gathered,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we would all spread out again, dousing for signal,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we would be on the phone again.

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<v Speaker 1>He was through these phone calls that Hicks and his

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<v Speaker 1>State Department colleagues formed a rough understanding of how the

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<v Speaker 1>attack in Benghazi was playing out.

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<v Speaker 2>We heard, you know. It was dozens of armed individuals

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<v Speaker 2>had entered the compound, rocket pelt grenades and rifle fire

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<v Speaker 2>and automatic fire and was taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>As Hicks dialed out, he tried Ambassador Stevens again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to call him every few minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>getting no answer. He probably had his phone on silence

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<v Speaker 2>to not attract attention to their presence. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but he'd never answered the phone again.

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<v Speaker 1>When he wasn't calling Stevens's phone or his contacts in

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<v Speaker 1>the Libyan government, Deputy Chief of Mission Greg Hicks was

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<v Speaker 1>calling the CIA. Specifically, he was calling the station chief

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<v Speaker 1>at the CIA outpost in Benghazi, a facility known internally

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<v Speaker 1>as the CIA Annex. It was located less than a

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<v Speaker 1>mile from the State Department compound.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in touch with the Annex chief, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to him about the security team from the

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<v Speaker 2>Annex in Benghazi moving expeditiously to rescue our people at

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<v Speaker 2>our facility.

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<v Speaker 1>The annex was home base for about two dozen Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>including some CIA agents and the team of private security contractors.

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<v Speaker 1>In an agreement between the CIA and the State Department,

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<v Speaker 1>those contractors could be tapped to respond to an emergency

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<v Speaker 1>at the diplomatic nearby. That was why Greg Hicks wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to the station chief.

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<v Speaker 2>And I asked him quite pointedly, are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to meet your obligations under our agreement?

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<v Speaker 1>Separately, the contractors at the CIA annex heard distress calls

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<v Speaker 1>from the compound. They pulled on their gear, grabbed their weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>and loaded up into armored cars. But before they could leave,

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<v Speaker 1>they were held up by the annex chief. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of directing the contractors, and for reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>would later be litigated and re litigated in the media

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<v Speaker 1>and by Congress, he told the contractors to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the Gazi Annex chief personally, and he's a

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<v Speaker 2>decent man. He was put in an awful position that

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<v Speaker 2>night where he had to make choices to risk the

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<v Speaker 2>people under his authority in his compound to save our

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<v Speaker 2>people and the consulate.

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<v Speaker 1>If the station chief were to send the contractors to

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<v Speaker 1>the compound, he would be leaving the CIA annex largely defenseless.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of sending his own people out, he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to reach the leaders of friendly local militias to ask

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<v Speaker 1>for their help. The contractors got frustrated. They knew that

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<v Speaker 1>the passing minutes were only giving the attackers an edge. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>a call came on the radio from one of the

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<v Speaker 1>DS agents at the compound. If you guys don't get

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<v Speaker 1>here soon, we're going to die. With that, the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>contractors broke protocol. Twenty minutes after they had first heard

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<v Speaker 1>about the attack. They left for the compound without the

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<v Speaker 1>station chiefs go ahead. At the compound, Scott Wickland was

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting to a new threat.

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<v Speaker 5>Fire. Yeah. I turned to the Ambassador and John Smith

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, hey, we got to get to

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<v Speaker 5>the bathroom now.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea behind moving to the bathroom was that Wickland,

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens and Smith would have access to water.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 1>They could wet a towel and shove it under the

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<v Speaker 1>base of the door, then open the small window vent

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<v Speaker 1>and wait out the fire. Wicklin figured the villa was

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<v Speaker 1>made of concrete. The stuff inside of it might catch fire,

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<v Speaker 1>but the structure itself would not.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, outside there are attackers, inside, there's fire. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>more likely to survive fire if I'm in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 5>than i am to survive attackers who were outside. I

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<v Speaker 5>knew that going outside was not an option at all,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we started crawling.

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<v Speaker 1>It was eight meters from the safe haven to the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>about the length of two cars. Wicklin strapped his rifle

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<v Speaker 1>across his chest and began to guide Stevens in a

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<v Speaker 1>crawl with his left hand holding the body armor on

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens's back. Sean Smith followed behind them.

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<v Speaker 5>By the time we reached the corner, so two meters,

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<v Speaker 5>the smoke was super thick. I mean, that's how quickly

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<v Speaker 5>it filled up with smoke. And it wasn't smoke like

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<v Speaker 5>a campfire. This was smoke like it just it entered

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<v Speaker 5>your eyeballs, it went in your mouth, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>just putrid. It was black, thick smoke that's a mixture

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<v Speaker 5>of burning rubber and plastic and caustic fumes that just

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<v Speaker 5>choke you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you see it all?

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<v Speaker 5>No, nothing, There was no breathable air from like the

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<v Speaker 5>ceiling all the way down to you know, the floor,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I was like kind of cupping my hands

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<v Speaker 5>on the floor and breathing, you know, the last inch

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<v Speaker 5>of air that was left. And that's how I was

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<v Speaker 5>still talking. And so I was still saying follow me,

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<v Speaker 5>follow me, and I was hitting the floor so it

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<v Speaker 5>would make like a popping noise, and so they could

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<v Speaker 5>hear me where I was is where to go? And

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<v Speaker 5>I was just saying, come on, we can make it.

0:28:14.551 --> 0:28:17.870
<v Speaker 5>Come on, we can make it. Come on. You know.

0:28:17.951 --> 0:28:21.430
<v Speaker 5>I went at a slow pace and I could feel

0:28:21.471 --> 0:28:25.271
<v Speaker 5>Ambassador Stevens on my left side, and then I didn't,

0:28:28.191 --> 0:28:31.150
<v Speaker 5>you know, I thought, well, he's right there, he's right

0:28:31.311 --> 0:28:34.311
<v Speaker 5>behind me. Anyway, no big deal, Like he can still

0:28:34.311 --> 0:28:38.071
<v Speaker 5>hear my voice, he can hear my hands. And I

0:28:38.111 --> 0:28:41.071
<v Speaker 5>was still saying, come on, we can make it, come on,

0:28:41.231 --> 0:28:44.111
<v Speaker 5>follow me, follow this on in my voice, follow me,

0:28:44.311 --> 0:28:50.391
<v Speaker 5>follow me. And I made it to the bathroom and

0:28:50.471 --> 0:28:57.911
<v Speaker 5>they didn't show up. So I started feeling out into

0:28:57.951 --> 0:29:00.631
<v Speaker 5>the hallway that led to the bathroom to see if

0:29:00.631 --> 0:29:05.791
<v Speaker 5>I could feel them and pull them in, and I

0:29:05.831 --> 0:29:11.711
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel anything. I searched until I was like about

0:29:11.831 --> 0:29:14.831
<v Speaker 5>to pass out, Like I could feel the lightheadedness and

0:29:14.911 --> 0:29:20.750
<v Speaker 5>like my body like losing motor skills, and I was

0:29:20.791 --> 0:29:26.191
<v Speaker 5>really getting scared. At that point, I realized, well, it's

0:29:26.231 --> 0:29:32.711
<v Speaker 5>either I'd die here or I go outside.

0:29:32.751 --> 0:29:35.431
<v Speaker 1>Wickland knew he could get outside through his bedroom window.

0:29:36.151 --> 0:29:39.111
<v Speaker 1>He just had to get there in the darkness. Wicklan's

0:29:39.191 --> 0:29:42.031
<v Speaker 1>rifle had somehow gotten tangled or stuck in the bathroom sink,

0:29:43.071 --> 0:29:45.791
<v Speaker 1>so he left it behind, stood upright, and ran to

0:29:45.871 --> 0:29:48.791
<v Speaker 1>his room. Once inside, he felt his way to the

0:29:48.791 --> 0:29:50.311
<v Speaker 1>window and cranked it open.

0:29:50.431 --> 0:29:53.511
<v Speaker 5>And I kind of collapsed onto this little patio area

0:29:53.551 --> 0:29:57.511
<v Speaker 5>that I have and shortly after it was just gunfire.

0:29:58.151 --> 0:30:01.031
<v Speaker 5>I mean I believed, you know, it was right on

0:30:01.111 --> 0:30:01.751
<v Speaker 5>my position.

0:30:03.831 --> 0:30:06.911
<v Speaker 1>Wickland took cover behind a knee high wall that surrounded

0:30:06.911 --> 0:30:10.391
<v Speaker 1>the patio area outside his bedroom. He could feel shards

0:30:10.431 --> 0:30:12.751
<v Speaker 1>of cement hitting his face from where bullets were making

0:30:12.791 --> 0:30:14.031
<v Speaker 1>contact around him.

0:30:14.431 --> 0:30:16.510
<v Speaker 5>It was just like getting blast in the face by

0:30:16.591 --> 0:30:20.511
<v Speaker 5>a shotgun. And so I turned around and went back

0:30:20.591 --> 0:30:24.071
<v Speaker 5>into the building to search for Ambassador Stevens and Shawn Smith.

0:30:25.471 --> 0:30:28.031
<v Speaker 5>I went back in the window, and I was just

0:30:28.191 --> 0:30:32.311
<v Speaker 5>yelling and screaming, hoping that one of the two of

0:30:32.351 --> 0:30:37.191
<v Speaker 5>them could hear me and keep fighting, Like keep crawling

0:30:37.231 --> 0:30:40.431
<v Speaker 5>towards my bedroom. I was yelling, I'm in my bedroom.

0:30:40.471 --> 0:30:44.191
<v Speaker 5>I'm in my bedroom. Follow my voice. Follow me. There

0:30:44.231 --> 0:30:46.631
<v Speaker 5>was like a desk right by my doorway, and I

0:30:46.711 --> 0:30:50.711
<v Speaker 5>was slamming that thing, hitting it, like follow me, come

0:30:50.751 --> 0:30:52.751
<v Speaker 5>to this noise, Come to my voice.

0:30:53.431 --> 0:30:56.271
<v Speaker 1>Wicklan stayed inside until once again he felt like he

0:30:56.351 --> 0:30:59.671
<v Speaker 1>was going to pass out. Then he turned around, climbed

0:30:59.671 --> 0:31:01.911
<v Speaker 1>out the window, caught his breath, and went back in

0:31:02.031 --> 0:31:02.671
<v Speaker 1>to try again.

0:31:03.231 --> 0:31:05.671
<v Speaker 5>I thought, if I turned my lamp on, maybe they'll

0:31:05.671 --> 0:31:08.111
<v Speaker 5>be able to see it, and so I went over

0:31:08.871 --> 0:31:11.871
<v Speaker 5>by feel on my lamp on the side of my bed,

0:31:13.311 --> 0:31:15.591
<v Speaker 5>turned it on, and I held it up to my

0:31:16.151 --> 0:31:20.031
<v Speaker 5>face because I couldn't see it, and I remember feeling

0:31:20.551 --> 0:31:24.270
<v Speaker 5>the heat from the light bulb and I could just

0:31:24.311 --> 0:31:28.791
<v Speaker 5>barely make out a light. That's how thick the smoke was.

0:31:29.671 --> 0:31:32.431
<v Speaker 1>Wicklan says that each time he went back into the villa,

0:31:32.711 --> 0:31:35.991
<v Speaker 1>he could only stay for about a minute. Eventually he

0:31:36.071 --> 0:31:38.950
<v Speaker 1>knew he couldn't go back in at all. He was

0:31:38.991 --> 0:31:41.911
<v Speaker 1>also certain that By this point, after spending so much

0:31:41.951 --> 0:31:45.470
<v Speaker 1>time inside the burning building, Chris Stevens and Sean Smith

0:31:45.671 --> 0:31:46.391
<v Speaker 1>had to be dead.

0:31:47.311 --> 0:31:51.791
<v Speaker 5>My body didn't have any energy left, and I had

0:31:51.831 --> 0:31:56.111
<v Speaker 5>been breathing in that smoke. Oh man, it just makes

0:31:56.151 --> 0:31:59.391
<v Speaker 5>me sick thinking about it. I knew that if I

0:31:59.471 --> 0:32:02.151
<v Speaker 5>went in one more time, that would have been it.

0:32:02.271 --> 0:32:05.271
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have been coming back out. I wouldn't be

0:32:05.311 --> 0:32:09.230
<v Speaker 5>able to help out anybody if I was another casualty.

0:32:09.591 --> 0:32:13.031
<v Speaker 5>So I made the decision to climb up the ladder

0:32:13.191 --> 0:32:14.911
<v Speaker 5>from the patio up to the roof.

0:32:20.311 --> 0:32:23.551
<v Speaker 1>It's worth underscoring that, in that moment, climbing up onto

0:32:23.591 --> 0:32:26.751
<v Speaker 1>the roof of a burning building felt like Wickland's best option.

0:32:27.391 --> 0:32:29.951
<v Speaker 5>It was like a frying pan, it was so hot.

0:32:30.511 --> 0:32:33.351
<v Speaker 1>Wickland pulled the aluminum ladder up behind him and took

0:32:33.391 --> 0:32:36.911
<v Speaker 1>stock of his surroundings. Perched up on the roof, he

0:32:36.991 --> 0:32:38.951
<v Speaker 1>now had a slightly better sense of what was going

0:32:38.991 --> 0:32:41.871
<v Speaker 1>on around him. He tried again to reach the other

0:32:41.951 --> 0:32:43.990
<v Speaker 1>DS agents who had been in the compound with him

0:32:44.031 --> 0:32:45.031
<v Speaker 1>when the attack started.

0:32:45.631 --> 0:32:47.351
<v Speaker 5>The first thing that I did was I got on

0:32:47.391 --> 0:32:51.311
<v Speaker 5>the radio and I was like, where the fuck is everybody?

0:32:53.151 --> 0:32:56.031
<v Speaker 5>And I said Ambassador Stephens and Sean Smith are still

0:32:56.031 --> 0:33:00.471
<v Speaker 5>in the burning building. I need immediate assistance. And there

0:33:00.551 --> 0:33:04.231
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a response. Nobody got over the radio and said, yeah,

0:33:04.271 --> 0:33:07.311
<v Speaker 5>we're coming to help you out. It was just silence.

0:33:11.631 --> 0:33:14.191
<v Speaker 5>I thought I was alone. I thought everybody else was dead.

0:33:14.711 --> 0:33:22.031
<v Speaker 5>I thought the other agents were dead. And I had

0:33:22.071 --> 0:33:27.031
<v Speaker 5>blisters in my throat and in my mouth. My feet

0:33:27.111 --> 0:33:35.351
<v Speaker 5>were pretty messed up, my breathing was pretty bad. And

0:33:35.431 --> 0:33:38.551
<v Speaker 5>so I developed a plan. And my plan was that

0:33:38.671 --> 0:33:41.911
<v Speaker 5>I was going to jump off the roof without shoes,

0:33:42.231 --> 0:33:44.351
<v Speaker 5>and I was going to run to the edge of Benghazi.

0:33:44.391 --> 0:33:46.111
<v Speaker 5>I was going to steal a car and drive it

0:33:46.151 --> 0:33:49.231
<v Speaker 5>to Egypt. And that was my real plan.

0:33:57.711 --> 0:34:00.511
<v Speaker 1>While Wickland imagined ways of getting away from the compound,

0:34:00.671 --> 0:34:04.271
<v Speaker 1>Baker Habib, Chris Stevens's friend and colleague, was desperate to

0:34:04.311 --> 0:34:04.671
<v Speaker 1>get in.

0:34:05.471 --> 0:34:08.031
<v Speaker 3>I want to be inside the compound by Jokoba Kroc.

0:34:08.311 --> 0:34:10.671
<v Speaker 3>This is my aim at that time. I just want

0:34:10.711 --> 0:34:11.190
<v Speaker 3>to be there.

0:34:11.991 --> 0:34:14.631
<v Speaker 1>As Habib drew closer to the front gates, he was

0:34:14.631 --> 0:34:16.270
<v Speaker 1>stopped by a group of armed men.

0:34:17.231 --> 0:34:22.031
<v Speaker 7>So there I found two cars, two trucks with heavy

0:34:22.071 --> 0:34:25.230
<v Speaker 7>machine guns, and I told him he just wanted to

0:34:25.270 --> 0:34:28.151
<v Speaker 7>go in. They said, no way, you can't.

0:34:28.551 --> 0:34:31.350
<v Speaker 1>Habib didn't know who these men were or whether they

0:34:31.351 --> 0:34:34.991
<v Speaker 1>were working with the attackers. Either way, they had closed

0:34:34.991 --> 0:34:38.631
<v Speaker 1>off the street, so Habib turned his car around and

0:34:38.750 --> 0:34:41.270
<v Speaker 1>drove to the back of the compound, which looked out

0:34:41.311 --> 0:34:43.830
<v Speaker 1>onto a lively street where people had been dining when

0:34:43.831 --> 0:34:47.230
<v Speaker 1>the attack began. Habib got out of his car and

0:34:47.270 --> 0:34:49.351
<v Speaker 1>tried to get a sense of the scene.

0:34:49.710 --> 0:34:55.471
<v Speaker 3>I could hear clearly greenades and number of shots, and

0:34:55.511 --> 0:34:58.111
<v Speaker 3>the greenades again the comp.

0:34:57.831 --> 0:35:01.631
<v Speaker 7>Between the grenades. I will say one two minutes Maximo.

0:35:02.190 --> 0:35:04.631
<v Speaker 1>As Habib stood near the back of the compound, a

0:35:04.671 --> 0:35:07.190
<v Speaker 1>man carrying a missile launcher approached him and asked if

0:35:07.190 --> 0:35:09.750
<v Speaker 1>he was a civilian. Habib told him that he was

0:35:10.190 --> 0:35:11.511
<v Speaker 1>and said, I need.

0:35:11.391 --> 0:35:12.271
<v Speaker 7>To go to the building.

0:35:13.190 --> 0:35:15.911
<v Speaker 3>I have to be there. He said it's stager. I

0:35:15.911 --> 0:35:17.151
<v Speaker 3>said no, let me do it.

0:35:17.631 --> 0:35:21.151
<v Speaker 1>Eventually Habib left his car and began to walk back

0:35:21.151 --> 0:35:22.750
<v Speaker 1>around to the front of the compound.

0:35:23.230 --> 0:35:26.751
<v Speaker 3>What is so is people with guns, people without guns,

0:35:26.951 --> 0:35:30.350
<v Speaker 3>and many people. You cannot imagine. This was alike a flow.

0:35:30.391 --> 0:35:32.591
<v Speaker 3>It's like a three people getting.

0:35:32.311 --> 0:35:34.631
<v Speaker 7>In the gate. It's unbelievable.

0:35:34.631 --> 0:35:37.951
<v Speaker 3>The scene was unbelievable, and no one knows what was

0:35:38.031 --> 0:35:39.191
<v Speaker 3>going on at that time.

0:35:39.871 --> 0:35:42.390
<v Speaker 1>The flood of people Habib was seeing had shown up

0:35:42.391 --> 0:35:44.631
<v Speaker 1>at the compound. After a word of the attack spread

0:35:44.671 --> 0:35:48.431
<v Speaker 1>around Benghazi through text messages, facebook pages, and phone calls.

0:35:49.190 --> 0:35:51.310
<v Speaker 1>It was hard to tell who was an attacker and

0:35:51.351 --> 0:35:53.671
<v Speaker 1>who was just a rubbernecker trying to see what was

0:35:53.710 --> 0:35:57.830
<v Speaker 1>going on at the American mission. Later, this ambiguity would

0:35:57.871 --> 0:36:01.151
<v Speaker 1>determine almost everything about how the attack in Benghazi was

0:36:01.151 --> 0:36:10.231
<v Speaker 1>initially misunderstood in the United States. Up on the rooft

0:36:10.230 --> 0:36:12.551
<v Speaker 1>Wicklan didn't know what time it was or how long

0:36:12.591 --> 0:36:14.391
<v Speaker 1>it had been since he gave up on trying to

0:36:14.431 --> 0:36:18.551
<v Speaker 1>find Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith. After a while, though,

0:36:18.710 --> 0:36:21.431
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like the attackers had moved away from his position,

0:36:21.791 --> 0:36:24.430
<v Speaker 1>creating an opportunity for him to escape, and.

0:36:24.431 --> 0:36:27.470
<v Speaker 5>I thought, well, this might be my time pretty soon

0:36:27.991 --> 0:36:31.591
<v Speaker 5>to carry out my plan. Then I got a call

0:36:31.631 --> 0:36:33.791
<v Speaker 5>over the radio and it was Dave Ouben.

0:36:34.471 --> 0:36:37.871
<v Speaker 1>Dave Eben was another DS agent and Wickman's friend from training.

0:36:38.351 --> 0:36:39.951
<v Speaker 1>The two of them had been out by the pool

0:36:39.991 --> 0:36:43.310
<v Speaker 1>together when the attackers first arrived at the compound. They

0:36:43.351 --> 0:36:45.351
<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen each other or spoken since.

0:36:45.710 --> 0:36:50.951
<v Speaker 5>Dave called and basically said, you know, Scott, are you alive.

0:36:51.831 --> 0:36:54.591
<v Speaker 5>I called back and I was like, yes, yeah, I'm

0:36:54.631 --> 0:36:58.111
<v Speaker 5>still alive. I'm still here. Where are you guys? I

0:36:58.190 --> 0:37:03.031
<v Speaker 5>need some help, And they said we're coming.

0:37:07.031 --> 0:37:09.551
<v Speaker 1>Wicklin says the other DS agents came to the side

0:37:09.551 --> 0:37:13.471
<v Speaker 1>of Villis where he was hiding and signaled to him. Wickland,

0:37:13.511 --> 0:37:16.111
<v Speaker 1>still barefoot, climbed down the ladder and told them he

0:37:16.151 --> 0:37:19.511
<v Speaker 1>thought Ambassador Stevens and Shawn Smith were still inside the building.

0:37:20.151 --> 0:37:23.431
<v Speaker 5>When I see them, it's like, oh, my gosh, I

0:37:23.591 --> 0:37:27.270
<v Speaker 5>might survive. I might survive this because I now have

0:37:28.551 --> 0:37:31.230
<v Speaker 5>my teammates. I'm not alone anymore. That was the big

0:37:31.270 --> 0:37:34.111
<v Speaker 5>thing for me was I thought I was alone like

0:37:34.151 --> 0:37:39.471
<v Speaker 5>this entire time. I thought it was just me. Right away,

0:37:39.831 --> 0:37:42.391
<v Speaker 5>they were jumping in the burning building to try and

0:37:42.431 --> 0:37:44.431
<v Speaker 5>find ambass Stevens and Shawn Smith.

0:37:45.270 --> 0:37:48.191
<v Speaker 1>As the other DS agents took turns entering the building,

0:37:48.671 --> 0:37:51.111
<v Speaker 1>they were joined by the team of private contractors from

0:37:51.111 --> 0:37:54.951
<v Speaker 1>the CIA Annex. After a firefight on their way into

0:37:55.031 --> 0:37:58.710
<v Speaker 1>the compound, the CIA contractors had managed to scare off

0:37:58.750 --> 0:38:03.671
<v Speaker 1>some of the attackers, at least temporarily. Now they joined

0:38:03.671 --> 0:38:06.631
<v Speaker 1>in the desperate search for Stevens and Smith, entering the

0:38:06.671 --> 0:38:09.631
<v Speaker 1>villa through the windows, Scott Wickland had identified, doing a

0:38:09.710 --> 0:38:11.870
<v Speaker 1>lap side as long as they could stand it, and

0:38:11.911 --> 0:38:16.710
<v Speaker 1>circling back out again. Finally, one of the DS agents

0:38:16.750 --> 0:38:21.191
<v Speaker 1>found Sean Smith. He was dead, apparently of smoke and elation,

0:38:21.671 --> 0:38:25.591
<v Speaker 1>and the agent pulled his body out of the villa.

0:38:26.071 --> 0:38:28.151
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't long after that it seemed like the fighting

0:38:28.230 --> 0:38:29.071
<v Speaker 1>might start up again.

0:38:33.071 --> 0:38:36.711
<v Speaker 5>We start feeling pressure from like attackers again. There's people

0:38:36.791 --> 0:38:39.951
<v Speaker 5>who are kind of hiding out at one of the gates,

0:38:40.071 --> 0:38:42.710
<v Speaker 5>and so we're starting to feel like, you know, we

0:38:42.951 --> 0:38:44.871
<v Speaker 5>have to get moving. We have to get out of

0:38:44.911 --> 0:38:46.871
<v Speaker 5>here before there's a second attack.

0:38:48.270 --> 0:38:51.671
<v Speaker 1>Though they still hadn't found Stevens, the DS agents and

0:38:51.671 --> 0:38:54.551
<v Speaker 1>the contractors decided it was time to evacuate to the

0:38:54.591 --> 0:38:59.470
<v Speaker 1>nearby CIA base. The DS agents went first, packing into

0:38:59.511 --> 0:39:01.831
<v Speaker 1>one of the armored vehicles that was kept at the compound.

0:39:02.710 --> 0:39:06.031
<v Speaker 1>Despite his condition, Wickland got into the driver's seat. He

0:39:06.071 --> 0:39:08.511
<v Speaker 1>had been in Benghazi the longest and he knew the

0:39:08.551 --> 0:39:13.071
<v Speaker 1>way to the annex. Meanwhile, the CIA contractors loaded Sean

0:39:13.151 --> 0:39:16.831
<v Speaker 1>Smith's body into the car they'd arrived in. After beating

0:39:16.871 --> 0:39:19.750
<v Speaker 1>back another advance from the attackers. They pulled out of

0:39:19.791 --> 0:39:24.511
<v Speaker 1>the compound two. It was eleven seventeen PM, about an

0:39:24.551 --> 0:39:28.191
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half after the attack first started. Wherever

0:39:28.230 --> 0:39:32.951
<v Speaker 1>Ambassador Stevens was now, it wasn't with the Americans. Baker

0:39:32.991 --> 0:39:35.351
<v Speaker 1>Habib worried that his friend had been kidnapped.

0:39:35.791 --> 0:39:36.310
<v Speaker 7>At that time.

0:39:36.391 --> 0:39:42.230
<v Speaker 3>I was in contact with those people who got Sjonah Smith, Buddy.

0:39:43.230 --> 0:39:46.471
<v Speaker 3>I thought Chris was out of the compound at that time.

0:39:47.871 --> 0:39:50.831
<v Speaker 3>So you say, just came to my mind that Chris

0:39:50.831 --> 0:39:54.790
<v Speaker 3>would be a tortured first, then he killed by them,

0:39:54.831 --> 0:39:57.871
<v Speaker 3>and everything is just in my mind.

0:39:57.951 --> 0:40:00.351
<v Speaker 7>So at that time was what was suitable.

0:40:04.551 --> 0:40:07.430
<v Speaker 1>At the embassy in Tripoli, Greg Hicks had been trying

0:40:07.431 --> 0:40:10.671
<v Speaker 1>to solicit some kind of help from somewhere before another

0:40:10.710 --> 0:40:14.111
<v Speaker 1>wave of attacks could hit the Americans. At what point

0:40:14.431 --> 0:40:18.471
<v Speaker 1>were you told that basically there wasn't any help coming

0:40:18.511 --> 0:40:20.551
<v Speaker 1>from outside of Libya.

0:40:21.071 --> 0:40:26.751
<v Speaker 2>That was AFRICOM telling the Defense attesche that they had

0:40:26.991 --> 0:40:35.311
<v Speaker 2>nothing available to send, and that happened at about eleven PM.

0:40:35.551 --> 0:40:39.230
<v Speaker 1>AFRICOM is part of the Department of Defense. It's responsible

0:40:39.270 --> 0:40:43.071
<v Speaker 1>for American military activity in Africa. On the night of

0:40:43.071 --> 0:40:47.031
<v Speaker 1>the attack, AFRICAM told Hicks. The nearest military resources were

0:40:47.071 --> 0:40:51.071
<v Speaker 1>fighter planes stationed in Aviano, Italy that was at least

0:40:51.111 --> 0:40:54.390
<v Speaker 1>a two or three hour flight from Benghazi. On top

0:40:54.431 --> 0:40:57.071
<v Speaker 1>of that, there were no tankers available for the planes

0:40:57.071 --> 0:40:57.591
<v Speaker 1>to refuel.

0:40:58.190 --> 0:41:00.830
<v Speaker 2>Essentially, that's why there was no military response, because the

0:41:00.831 --> 0:41:04.751
<v Speaker 2>military wasn't ready for any eventuality.

0:41:05.391 --> 0:41:09.390
<v Speaker 1>On nine to eleven, it appeared that the Americans' only

0:41:09.431 --> 0:41:13.871
<v Speaker 1>option to launch a rescue mission from Tripoli, so a

0:41:13.911 --> 0:41:17.271
<v Speaker 1>team of private security contractors based in the Capitol boarded

0:41:17.270 --> 0:41:31.031
<v Speaker 1>a flight to Benghazi. We'll be right back. Even after

0:41:31.071 --> 0:41:34.710
<v Speaker 1>the Americans evacuated the Benghazi compound, the large crowd of

0:41:34.750 --> 0:41:38.151
<v Speaker 1>Libyans Baker Habib had seen nearby continued to grow.

0:41:38.871 --> 0:41:41.871
<v Speaker 3>So you see many people just coming and keep coming

0:41:42.871 --> 0:41:45.551
<v Speaker 3>to the American mission because Biebo was curious to know

0:41:45.671 --> 0:41:48.031
<v Speaker 3>what was going on at that time and what happened.

0:41:48.511 --> 0:41:50.390
<v Speaker 3>Many of them just was to be there with their

0:41:50.431 --> 0:41:56.631
<v Speaker 3>cell phone to just record what was going on.

0:41:58.391 --> 0:42:00.870
<v Speaker 1>What you're hearing is a cell phone video recorded by

0:42:00.871 --> 0:42:03.911
<v Speaker 1>a man named fad alba Khush, who later shared his

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<v Speaker 1>footage with American news networks. Some people looted the compound,

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<v Speaker 1>taking everything from television sets to coils of rope. One

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<v Speaker 1>guy even picked up a container of chocolate syrup and

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<v Speaker 1>walked through the compound, squirting it into his mouth. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>around one o'clock in the morning, someone found a man

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<v Speaker 1>in Villa C. He was unresponsive and covered in soot.

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<v Speaker 1>In the cell phone video, you can see a group

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<v Speaker 1>of people pull the man's body out of the villa.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear them yelling in Arabic, he's alive, He's alive. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>some American commentators would say the Libyans dragged the man

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<v Speaker 1>through the streets. In reality, they immediately brought him to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengazi Medical Center and within fifteen minutes he was

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<v Speaker 1>in a hospital bed. Soon after, the American Embassy in

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<v Speaker 1>Tripoli received a call from Scott Wickland's phone. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the same number that Greg Hicks had reached Chris Stevens

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<v Speaker 1>on earlier in the night, but this time it and

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<v Speaker 1>Steven's on the other line. It was a man speaking Arabic,

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<v Speaker 1>saying he was at the hospital with someone who looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the ambassador. Hicks and his colleagues pressed the man

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<v Speaker 1>for something more concrete, but he would not provide a

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<v Speaker 1>photograph or any other confirmation.

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<v Speaker 2>We were very, very focused on asking the kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>questions that would reveal whether we were talking to a

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<v Speaker 2>friend or an enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>The Americans felt like they couldn't take any information at

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<v Speaker 1>face value. It was more than possible that Wickland's cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone had been stolen from the compound and that the

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<v Speaker 1>attackers were now trying to lure them into a trap.

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<v Speaker 2>Then this whole confusing conversation begins where we understand he's

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<v Speaker 2>taken to a hospital, and the government keeps telling as well,

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<v Speaker 2>we know he's safe, and we keep going where is he?

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<v Speaker 2>And they won't tell us where he is, So our

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<v Speaker 2>view is that he's a prisoner and not in a

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<v Speaker 2>safe place.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Habib, who was in touch with State Department officials,

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<v Speaker 1>volunteered to go to the hospital and see for himself

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<v Speaker 1>if the man was Chris Stevens, but he was told

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't go. It turned out there was intelligence saying

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<v Speaker 1>that because of his close association with the Americans, Habib

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<v Speaker 1>might be a target too.

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<v Speaker 7>So I told him how about sending someone I trust

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<v Speaker 7>and someone in you Christine is very well he could

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<v Speaker 7>go there without any problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So that plan was set in motion, and after a

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<v Speaker 1>while Habib's friend called him from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 7>So he called me back and.

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<v Speaker 3>Told me that I'm next to him. Yes, his christive

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<v Speaker 3>is one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens was dead. Habib's friend said someone needed to come

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<v Speaker 1>get his body from the hospital, and Habib told him

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<v Speaker 1>he was on his way. Chris Stevens was reported killed

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<v Speaker 1>in action at four fifteen am. By that time, the

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<v Speaker 1>Americans who had gathered at the CIA base, including Scott Wickland,

0:45:21.631 --> 0:45:25.230
<v Speaker 1>his fellow DS agents, and the CIA contractors, had all

0:45:25.270 --> 0:45:29.710
<v Speaker 1>spent hours bracing themselves for another attack. Though locals didn't

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<v Speaker 1>officially know where the CIA annex was, it was possible

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<v Speaker 1>that someone had tracked the Americans as they made their

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<v Speaker 1>way there from the compound. There had been several moments

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<v Speaker 1>while Wickland was driving to the annex when he thought

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<v Speaker 1>someone was following him. When he got there, the tail

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<v Speaker 1>was gone, but he and the other Americans wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for the worst.

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<v Speaker 5>We prepared by putting people up on the roof and

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<v Speaker 5>making sure that they were armed. You know. We had

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<v Speaker 5>people monitoring to make sure that we could see these people.

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<v Speaker 5>And I stayed inside just trying to kind of recuperate

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you able to get medical attention at that point.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there wasn't a whole lot that we could

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<v Speaker 5>do for me. I got some shoes, which was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough, it turned out Wickland and the others had

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<v Speaker 1>been right to worry. Whoever was trying to expel them

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<v Speaker 1>from Benghazi had figured out where they were. Aided by

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<v Speaker 1>night vision goggles, the Americans prevailed in two brief firefights,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone was dreading the sunrise, when light would give

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<v Speaker 1>the attackers a clearer view of the CIA base. At

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<v Speaker 1>five am, reinforcements finally arrived from Tripoli. Among them was

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<v Speaker 1>a CIA contractor named Glen Doherty, who joined a number

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<v Speaker 1>of others, including a contractor named Tyrone Woods, on the

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<v Speaker 1>roof of the main building as the sky began to

0:46:51.591 --> 0:46:54.671
<v Speaker 1>turn from black to deep blue. The plan was to

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<v Speaker 1>get every American out of Benghazi as soon as humanly possible.

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<v Speaker 5>But then, you know, was I expecting mortars?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I was not expecting mortars, and I definitely wasn't expecting

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<v Speaker 5>the accuracy the mortars.

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<v Speaker 1>In the space of ninety seconds, six mortars hit the

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<v Speaker 1>Benghazi CIA base. Three of them exploded on the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of the main building, where most of the Americans were hiding.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I was standing right below the ceiling of

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<v Speaker 5>where they're impacting. But I think the heaviest part of

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<v Speaker 5>the entire experience was knowing that, you know, I've I

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<v Speaker 5>have some friends up on that roof, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know why they're not answering the radio call. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know how they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were both killed in the explosions.

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<v Speaker 1>Another CIA contractor, Mark Geist, and Scott Wickman's friend Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Uben were critically injured. After that, the attackers seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>withdraw and the Americans prepared to leave Benghazi. At the airport,

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<v Speaker 1>the plane that the trip team had used to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Benghazi was still sitting on the tarmac. It was

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<v Speaker 1>too small to fit everyone who needed to evacuate, which

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<v Speaker 1>meant that those needing immediate medical attention, including Scott Wickland,

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<v Speaker 1>were sent ahead. In the meantime, one of Wickland's fellow

0:48:25.190 --> 0:48:28.471
<v Speaker 1>DS agents called Baker Habib to update him on the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>A group of Libyans the Americans trusted had gone to

0:48:31.951 --> 0:48:34.791
<v Speaker 1>the Benghazi Medical Center to retrieve Stevens's body.

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<v Speaker 9>I wasn't my way to the hospital then receive a

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<v Speaker 9>qullo from one of the ds and he said, bo,

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<v Speaker 9>don't go to a hospital. He said why, he said,

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<v Speaker 9>we already got the buddy, We got the remains. Just

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<v Speaker 9>come straightforward to the to the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>When Habib arrived at the airport, he said goodbye to

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<v Speaker 1>his friend.

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<v Speaker 9>He was there at the airport.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a front of mere lifeless.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was there.

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<v Speaker 7>In the city.

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<v Speaker 9>He loved to support, to back up and to obendge

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<v Speaker 9>to the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>So I spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 4>I told him, Chris, what if it takes, I was

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<v Speaker 4>doing him best to bring those criminals to justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Other Libyans who had known Chris Stevens during his time

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<v Speaker 1>in Benghazi came to the tarmac as well. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>them were in tears, aware that the American evacuation probably

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<v Speaker 1>meant the end of the US presence in Benghazi. Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks was aware of it too.

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<v Speaker 2>I distinctly remember arguing that if we leave, then we've lost.

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<v Speaker 2>They went that was the purpose of the attack, was

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<v Speaker 2>the chasers out of the country. So my view was

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<v Speaker 2>that we needed to take some time, regroup, rebuild, and

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<v Speaker 2>then continue our job.

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<v Speaker 1>The Libyan Air Force provided a cargo plane for the

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<v Speaker 1>remaining Americans. The bodies of Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>and Glen Doherty were loaded in as well. After a

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<v Speaker 1>stop in Tripoli, Scott Wickland and the others boarded a

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<v Speaker 1>plane for Europe.

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<v Speaker 5>We loaded up on the plane and there were four coffins.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, everybody's looking at these coffins and at these

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<v Speaker 5>people and silently trying to figure out what just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next episode of Fiasco, the attack in Benghazi

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<v Speaker 1>enters the bloodstream of American politics.

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<v Speaker 3>That took the president fourteen days before he called the

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<v Speaker 3>attack in Benghazzi an active chair.

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<v Speaker 5>Get the transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>For a list of books, articles, and documentaries we used

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<v Speaker 1>in our research, follow the link in our show notes.

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