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Speaker 1: note this episode contains descriptions of violence some listeners may

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Speaker 1: find disturbing. Previously on Fiasco.

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Speaker 2: The Arab Spring had arrived in Libya.

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Speaker 1: They were saying, wake up, wake up, Benghazi.

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Speaker 3: This is the day.

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Speaker 4: If you are waiting.

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Speaker 2: Forward, It's not usual to send in a diplomat and

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Speaker 2: basically say make your way.

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Speaker 5: I was very worried about it. Secure it eight.

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Speaker 1: Six months after the uprising, Olivia is flooded with weapons

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Speaker 1: and faces a potential power vacuum. The country is now

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Speaker 1: at risk of being taken over by extremists.

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Speaker 2: You Americans need to watch out because the people who

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Speaker 2: you're dealing with are not your friends.

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Speaker 3: Man plus X equals Islamic terrorist.

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Speaker 5: Islamic terrorist minus X.

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Speaker 4: Equals man.

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Speaker 3: But what is X?

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Speaker 1: You're listening to a scene from a low budget movie

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Speaker 1: called Innocence of Muslims. It's not even really a movie technically,

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Speaker 1: it's a fourteen minute trailer for a movie that was

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Speaker 1: never released. The trailer was posted on YouTube in July

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Speaker 3: Muhammed is all a messenger and the Kuwan is a constitution.

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Speaker 1: The Innocence of Muslims video is a crude piece of

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Speaker 6: He kills men, captures women, and chills men, and what's more,

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Speaker 3: Name of God.

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Speaker 7: What God is this?

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Speaker 1: The video was produced in California by an Egyptian American

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Speaker 1: through backstage dot Com and told them they were shooting

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Speaker 1: an epic called Desert Warriors. According to the script he

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Speaker 1: production that the name Mohammad was dubbed. In raised him

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Speaker 3: His name is Mohammed the father unknown.

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Speaker 1: Nikola had his twenty one year old son post the

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Speaker 1: Then about two months later, in September of twenty twelve,

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Speaker 5: A mis alhand.

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Speaker 1: Soon miss when clips from the video aired an Egyptian

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Speaker 1: The statement did little to quell the outrage in Cairo.

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Speaker 8: They are protesting a video they say the fames the

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Speaker 1: This is Gregory Hicks. In twenty twelve, he was the

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Speaker 1: number two at the embassy in Tripoli. On September eleventh,

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Speaker 1: Hicks had been left in charge while Stevens took a

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Speaker 2: And I remember texting Chris in Benghazi and asking him,

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Speaker 1: Stevens told Hicks he had been unaware of the protests

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Speaker 1: for all the tensions erupting in Egypt over the Innocence

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Speaker 2: Libya was quiet, and then when the sun went down,

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Speaker 2: that we had not been targeted in Tripoli and they

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Speaker 1: It seemed like the day had passed without incident. Hicks

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Speaker 2: I had basically said, Okay, we're good, We're through the day.

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Speaker 2: my room. He's yelling Greg, Greg the consulates under attack.

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Speaker 1: Hicks checked his phone and saw missed calls from both

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Speaker 1: I'm Leon Navak from Prologued Projects and Pushkin Industries. This

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Speaker 1: is fiasco Benghazi.

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Speaker 7: I could hear these shots. I can heard the greenades.

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Speaker 5: I turned to the ambassador and said, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: It's taken to a hospital and the government won't tell

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Speaker 3: We already got the buddy, we got the remains.

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Speaker 5: I thought I was alone. I thought everybody else was dead.

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Speaker 1: Episode three, Barefoot, The Attack in Benghazi. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Chris arrived to Bengazi Airport Monday morning, Monday. This is

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Speaker 1: This is Baker Habib, born and raised in Libya. He

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Speaker 3: And I remember when I told him was came back,

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Speaker 3: So he considered Bengazi as home.

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Speaker 1: Why exactly Stephens decided to make his trip to Benghazi

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Speaker 7: I went out a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Our compound was in a residential neighborhood and it didn't

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Speaker 1: This is Scott Wickland, trained in the Navy as a

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Speaker 1: working for the State Department as a DS agent DS

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Speaker 1: short for Diplomatic Security. On September eleventh, Wickland was on

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Speaker 1: As you heard in episode two, the American compound in

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Speaker 1: After Stevens's final meeting of the night, business at the

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Speaker 5: At the end of the evening. We were sitting by

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Speaker 1: Then a little after nine thirty pm, Wickland heard a

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Speaker 1: Wickland and the other DS agents snapped into action.

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Speaker 1: As Wickland secured the villa's living quarters, he could tell

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Speaker 5: There was a sliding door on it that I had opened.

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Speaker 1: Chris Stevens's friend, Baker Habib got a call from one

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Speaker 3: The diplomatic security agents. One of them he called me

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Speaker 3: I couldn't possess my reaction. Oh and there is sand

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Speaker 1: Habib didn't want to believe that the compound was under attack,

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Speaker 7: I could hear these shots. I can heard the grenades.

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Speaker 1: From his position in the safe haven, Scott Wickland could

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Speaker 5: I could see through the jail cell door into this

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Speaker 1: There were four other DS agents in the compound, but

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Speaker 5: I was scared, wondering if, like the other guys, okay,

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Speaker 1: As the attackers rushed into the villa, Wickland could hear

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Speaker 5: As people started to flood into the building, I start thinking, well,

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Speaker 5: Instead of using the grenades, one of the guys uses

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Speaker 5: they turned and walked away. That was a massive sigh

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Speaker 1: Shortly after that, Wicklan saw the attackers start to leave

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Speaker 5: What I didn't realize was that they had taken some

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Speaker 1: From his post in Tripoli, four hundred miles away, Deputy

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Speaker 2: The first thing I'm doing is, Okay, track down all

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Speaker 2: I was calling senior officials in the government in Tripoli

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Speaker 1: But the process was hampered by the reality of telecommunication

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Speaker 2: We're all walking around. It's dead dark except for the

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Speaker 1: He was through these phone calls that Hicks and his

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Speaker 2: We heard, you know. It was dozens of armed individuals

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Speaker 1: As Hicks dialed out, he tried Ambassador Stevens again and again.

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Speaker 1: The annex was home base for about two dozen Americans,

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Speaker 2: And I asked him quite pointedly, are you going to

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Speaker 1: Separately, the contractors at the CIA annex heard distress calls

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Speaker 2: I know the Gazi Annex chief personally, and he's a

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Speaker 1: If the station chief were to send the contractors to

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Speaker 5: Fire. Yeah. I turned to the Ambassador and John Smith

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Speaker 1: The idea behind moving to the bathroom was that Wickland,

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Speaker 1: It was eight meters from the safe haven to the bathroom,

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00:26:45,431 --> 00:26:49,031
Speaker 1: about the length of two cars. Wicklin strapped his rifle

441
00:26:49,031 --> 00:26:51,551
Speaker 1: across his chest and began to guide Stevens in a

442
00:26:51,551 --> 00:26:54,110
Speaker 1: crawl with his left hand holding the body armor on

443
00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:57,551
Speaker 1: Stevens's back. Sean Smith followed behind them.

444
00:26:57,951 --> 00:27:00,590
Speaker 5: By the time we reached the corner, so two meters,

445
00:27:00,671 --> 00:27:05,551
Speaker 5: the smoke was super thick. I mean, that's how quickly

446
00:27:05,551 --> 00:27:09,430
Speaker 5: it filled up with smoke. And it wasn't smoke like

447
00:27:09,471 --> 00:27:13,751
Speaker 5: a campfire. This was smoke like it just it entered

448
00:27:13,791 --> 00:27:17,350
Speaker 5: your eyeballs, it went in your mouth, and it was

449
00:27:17,471 --> 00:27:22,830
Speaker 5: just putrid. It was black, thick smoke that's a mixture

450
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:28,390
Speaker 5: of burning rubber and plastic and caustic fumes that just

451
00:27:28,590 --> 00:27:30,471
Speaker 5: choke you.

452
00:27:30,471 --> 00:27:31,471
Speaker 2: Could you see it all?

453
00:27:31,951 --> 00:27:41,191
Speaker 5: No, nothing, There was no breathable air from like the

454
00:27:41,231 --> 00:27:44,751
Speaker 5: ceiling all the way down to you know, the floor,

455
00:27:46,150 --> 00:27:49,271
Speaker 5: and so I was like kind of cupping my hands

456
00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:54,031
Speaker 5: on the floor and breathing, you know, the last inch

457
00:27:54,071 --> 00:27:57,991
Speaker 5: of air that was left. And that's how I was

458
00:27:58,031 --> 00:28:02,110
Speaker 5: still talking. And so I was still saying follow me,

459
00:28:02,311 --> 00:28:05,791
Speaker 5: follow me, and I was hitting the floor so it

460
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:08,590
Speaker 5: would make like a popping noise, and so they could

461
00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:12,791
Speaker 5: hear me where I was is where to go? And

462
00:28:12,830 --> 00:28:14,511
Speaker 5: I was just saying, come on, we can make it.

463
00:28:14,551 --> 00:28:17,870
Speaker 5: Come on, we can make it. Come on. You know.

464
00:28:17,951 --> 00:28:21,430
Speaker 5: I went at a slow pace and I could feel

465
00:28:21,471 --> 00:28:25,271
Speaker 5: Ambassador Stevens on my left side, and then I didn't,

466
00:28:28,191 --> 00:28:31,150
Speaker 5: you know, I thought, well, he's right there, he's right

467
00:28:31,311 --> 00:28:34,311
Speaker 5: behind me. Anyway, no big deal, Like he can still

468
00:28:34,311 --> 00:28:38,071
Speaker 5: hear my voice, he can hear my hands. And I

469
00:28:38,111 --> 00:28:41,071
Speaker 5: was still saying, come on, we can make it, come on,

470
00:28:41,231 --> 00:28:44,111
Speaker 5: follow me, follow this on in my voice, follow me,

471
00:28:44,311 --> 00:28:50,391
Speaker 5: follow me. And I made it to the bathroom and

472
00:28:50,471 --> 00:28:57,911
Speaker 5: they didn't show up. So I started feeling out into

473
00:28:57,951 --> 00:29:00,631
Speaker 5: the hallway that led to the bathroom to see if

474
00:29:00,631 --> 00:29:05,791
Speaker 5: I could feel them and pull them in, and I

475
00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:11,711
Speaker 5: didn't feel anything. I searched until I was like about

476
00:29:11,831 --> 00:29:14,831
Speaker 5: to pass out, Like I could feel the lightheadedness and

477
00:29:14,911 --> 00:29:20,750
Speaker 5: like my body like losing motor skills, and I was

478
00:29:20,791 --> 00:29:26,191
Speaker 5: really getting scared. At that point, I realized, well, it's

479
00:29:26,231 --> 00:29:32,711
Speaker 5: either I'd die here or I go outside.

480
00:29:32,751 --> 00:29:35,431
Speaker 1: Wickland knew he could get outside through his bedroom window.

481
00:29:36,151 --> 00:29:39,111
Speaker 1: He just had to get there in the darkness. Wicklan's

482
00:29:39,191 --> 00:29:42,031
Speaker 1: rifle had somehow gotten tangled or stuck in the bathroom sink,

483
00:29:43,071 --> 00:29:45,791
Speaker 1: so he left it behind, stood upright, and ran to

484
00:29:45,871 --> 00:29:48,791
Speaker 1: his room. Once inside, he felt his way to the

485
00:29:48,791 --> 00:29:50,311
Speaker 1: window and cranked it open.

486
00:29:50,431 --> 00:29:53,511
Speaker 5: And I kind of collapsed onto this little patio area

487
00:29:53,551 --> 00:29:57,511
Speaker 5: that I have and shortly after it was just gunfire.

488
00:29:58,151 --> 00:30:01,031
Speaker 5: I mean I believed, you know, it was right on

489
00:30:01,111 --> 00:30:01,751
Speaker 5: my position.

490
00:30:03,831 --> 00:30:06,911
Speaker 1: Wickland took cover behind a knee high wall that surrounded

491
00:30:06,911 --> 00:30:10,391
Speaker 1: the patio area outside his bedroom. He could feel shards

492
00:30:10,431 --> 00:30:12,751
Speaker 1: of cement hitting his face from where bullets were making

493
00:30:12,791 --> 00:30:14,031
Speaker 1: contact around him.

494
00:30:14,431 --> 00:30:16,510
Speaker 5: It was just like getting blast in the face by

495
00:30:16,591 --> 00:30:20,511
Speaker 5: a shotgun. And so I turned around and went back

496
00:30:20,591 --> 00:30:24,071
Speaker 5: into the building to search for Ambassador Stevens and Shawn Smith.

497
00:30:25,471 --> 00:30:28,031
Speaker 5: I went back in the window, and I was just

498
00:30:28,191 --> 00:30:32,311
Speaker 5: yelling and screaming, hoping that one of the two of

499
00:30:32,351 --> 00:30:37,191
Speaker 5: them could hear me and keep fighting, Like keep crawling

500
00:30:37,231 --> 00:30:40,431
Speaker 5: towards my bedroom. I was yelling, I'm in my bedroom.

501
00:30:40,471 --> 00:30:44,191
Speaker 5: I'm in my bedroom. Follow my voice. Follow me. There

502
00:30:44,231 --> 00:30:46,631
Speaker 5: was like a desk right by my doorway, and I

503
00:30:46,711 --> 00:30:50,711
Speaker 5: was slamming that thing, hitting it, like follow me, come

504
00:30:50,751 --> 00:30:52,751
Speaker 5: to this noise, Come to my voice.

505
00:30:53,431 --> 00:30:56,271
Speaker 1: Wicklan stayed inside until once again he felt like he

506
00:30:56,351 --> 00:30:59,671
Speaker 1: was going to pass out. Then he turned around, climbed

507
00:30:59,671 --> 00:31:01,911
Speaker 1: out the window, caught his breath, and went back in

508
00:31:02,031 --> 00:31:02,671
Speaker 1: to try again.

509
00:31:03,231 --> 00:31:05,671
Speaker 5: I thought, if I turned my lamp on, maybe they'll

510
00:31:05,671 --> 00:31:08,111
Speaker 5: be able to see it, and so I went over

511
00:31:08,871 --> 00:31:11,871
Speaker 5: by feel on my lamp on the side of my bed,

512
00:31:13,311 --> 00:31:15,591
Speaker 5: turned it on, and I held it up to my

513
00:31:16,151 --> 00:31:20,031
Speaker 5: face because I couldn't see it, and I remember feeling

514
00:31:20,551 --> 00:31:24,270
Speaker 5: the heat from the light bulb and I could just

515
00:31:24,311 --> 00:31:28,791
Speaker 5: barely make out a light. That's how thick the smoke was.

516
00:31:29,671 --> 00:31:32,431
Speaker 1: Wicklan says that each time he went back into the villa,

517
00:31:32,711 --> 00:31:35,991
Speaker 1: he could only stay for about a minute. Eventually he

518
00:31:36,071 --> 00:31:38,950
Speaker 1: knew he couldn't go back in at all. He was

519
00:31:38,991 --> 00:31:41,911
Speaker 1: also certain that By this point, after spending so much

520
00:31:41,951 --> 00:31:45,470
Speaker 1: time inside the burning building, Chris Stevens and Sean Smith

521
00:31:45,671 --> 00:31:46,391
Speaker 1: had to be dead.

522
00:31:47,311 --> 00:31:51,791
Speaker 5: My body didn't have any energy left, and I had

523
00:31:51,831 --> 00:31:56,111
Speaker 5: been breathing in that smoke. Oh man, it just makes

524
00:31:56,151 --> 00:31:59,391
Speaker 5: me sick thinking about it. I knew that if I

525
00:31:59,471 --> 00:32:02,151
Speaker 5: went in one more time, that would have been it.

526
00:32:02,271 --> 00:32:05,271
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been coming back out. I wouldn't be

527
00:32:05,311 --> 00:32:09,230
Speaker 5: able to help out anybody if I was another casualty.

528
00:32:09,591 --> 00:32:13,031
Speaker 5: So I made the decision to climb up the ladder

529
00:32:13,191 --> 00:32:14,911
Speaker 5: from the patio up to the roof.

530
00:32:20,311 --> 00:32:23,551
Speaker 1: It's worth underscoring that, in that moment, climbing up onto

531
00:32:23,591 --> 00:32:26,751
Speaker 1: the roof of a burning building felt like Wickland's best option.

532
00:32:27,391 --> 00:32:29,951
Speaker 5: It was like a frying pan, it was so hot.

533
00:32:30,511 --> 00:32:33,351
Speaker 1: Wickland pulled the aluminum ladder up behind him and took

534
00:32:33,391 --> 00:32:36,911
Speaker 1: stock of his surroundings. Perched up on the roof, he

535
00:32:36,991 --> 00:32:38,951
Speaker 1: now had a slightly better sense of what was going

536
00:32:38,991 --> 00:32:41,871
Speaker 1: on around him. He tried again to reach the other

537
00:32:41,951 --> 00:32:43,990
Speaker 1: DS agents who had been in the compound with him

538
00:32:44,031 --> 00:32:45,031
Speaker 1: when the attack started.

539
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:47,351
Speaker 5: The first thing that I did was I got on

540
00:32:47,391 --> 00:32:51,311
Speaker 5: the radio and I was like, where the fuck is everybody?

541
00:32:53,151 --> 00:32:56,031
Speaker 5: And I said Ambassador Stephens and Sean Smith are still

542
00:32:56,031 --> 00:33:00,471
Speaker 5: in the burning building. I need immediate assistance. And there

543
00:33:00,551 --> 00:33:04,231
Speaker 5: wasn't a response. Nobody got over the radio and said, yeah,

544
00:33:04,271 --> 00:33:07,311
Speaker 5: we're coming to help you out. It was just silence.

545
00:33:11,631 --> 00:33:14,191
Speaker 5: I thought I was alone. I thought everybody else was dead.

546
00:33:14,711 --> 00:33:22,031
Speaker 5: I thought the other agents were dead. And I had

547
00:33:22,071 --> 00:33:27,031
Speaker 5: blisters in my throat and in my mouth. My feet

548
00:33:27,111 --> 00:33:35,351
Speaker 5: were pretty messed up, my breathing was pretty bad. And

549
00:33:35,431 --> 00:33:38,551
Speaker 5: so I developed a plan. And my plan was that

550
00:33:38,671 --> 00:33:41,911
Speaker 5: I was going to jump off the roof without shoes,

551
00:33:42,231 --> 00:33:44,351
Speaker 5: and I was going to run to the edge of Benghazi.

552
00:33:44,391 --> 00:33:46,111
Speaker 5: I was going to steal a car and drive it

553
00:33:46,151 --> 00:33:49,231
Speaker 5: to Egypt. And that was my real plan.

554
00:33:57,711 --> 00:34:00,511
Speaker 1: While Wickland imagined ways of getting away from the compound,

555
00:34:00,671 --> 00:34:04,271
Speaker 1: Baker Habib, Chris Stevens's friend and colleague, was desperate to

556
00:34:04,311 --> 00:34:04,671
Speaker 1: get in.

557
00:34:05,471 --> 00:34:08,031
Speaker 3: I want to be inside the compound by Jokoba Kroc.

558
00:34:08,311 --> 00:34:10,671
Speaker 3: This is my aim at that time. I just want

559
00:34:10,711 --> 00:34:11,190
Speaker 3: to be there.

560
00:34:11,991 --> 00:34:14,631
Speaker 1: As Habib drew closer to the front gates, he was

561
00:34:14,631 --> 00:34:16,270
Speaker 1: stopped by a group of armed men.

562
00:34:17,231 --> 00:34:22,031
Speaker 7: So there I found two cars, two trucks with heavy

563
00:34:22,071 --> 00:34:25,230
Speaker 7: machine guns, and I told him he just wanted to

564
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:28,151
Speaker 7: go in. They said, no way, you can't.

565
00:34:28,551 --> 00:34:31,350
Speaker 1: Habib didn't know who these men were or whether they

566
00:34:31,351 --> 00:34:34,991
Speaker 1: were working with the attackers. Either way, they had closed

567
00:34:34,991 --> 00:34:38,631
Speaker 1: off the street, so Habib turned his car around and

568
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:41,270
Speaker 1: drove to the back of the compound, which looked out

569
00:34:41,311 --> 00:34:43,830
Speaker 1: onto a lively street where people had been dining when

570
00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:47,230
Speaker 1: the attack began. Habib got out of his car and

571
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:49,351
Speaker 1: tried to get a sense of the scene.

572
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:55,471
Speaker 3: I could hear clearly greenades and number of shots, and

573
00:34:55,511 --> 00:34:58,111
Speaker 3: the greenades again the comp.

574
00:34:57,831 --> 00:35:01,631
Speaker 7: Between the grenades. I will say one two minutes Maximo.

575
00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:04,631
Speaker 1: As Habib stood near the back of the compound, a

576
00:35:04,671 --> 00:35:07,190
Speaker 1: man carrying a missile launcher approached him and asked if

577
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:09,750
Speaker 1: he was a civilian. Habib told him that he was

578
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:11,511
Speaker 1: and said, I need.

579
00:35:11,391 --> 00:35:12,271
Speaker 7: To go to the building.

580
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:15,911
Speaker 3: I have to be there. He said it's stager. I

581
00:35:15,911 --> 00:35:17,151
Speaker 3: said no, let me do it.

582
00:35:17,631 --> 00:35:21,151
Speaker 1: Eventually Habib left his car and began to walk back

583
00:35:21,151 --> 00:35:22,750
Speaker 1: around to the front of the compound.

584
00:35:23,230 --> 00:35:26,751
Speaker 3: What is so is people with guns, people without guns,

585
00:35:26,951 --> 00:35:30,350
Speaker 3: and many people. You cannot imagine. This was alike a flow.

586
00:35:30,391 --> 00:35:32,591
Speaker 3: It's like a three people getting.

587
00:35:32,311 --> 00:35:34,631
Speaker 7: In the gate. It's unbelievable.

588
00:35:34,631 --> 00:35:37,951
Speaker 3: The scene was unbelievable, and no one knows what was

589
00:35:38,031 --> 00:35:39,191
Speaker 3: going on at that time.

590
00:35:39,871 --> 00:35:42,390
Speaker 1: The flood of people Habib was seeing had shown up

591
00:35:42,391 --> 00:35:44,631
Speaker 1: at the compound. After a word of the attack spread

592
00:35:44,671 --> 00:35:48,431
Speaker 1: around Benghazi through text messages, facebook pages, and phone calls.

593
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:51,310
Speaker 1: It was hard to tell who was an attacker and

594
00:35:51,351 --> 00:35:53,671
Speaker 1: who was just a rubbernecker trying to see what was

595
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:57,830
Speaker 1: going on at the American mission. Later, this ambiguity would

596
00:35:57,871 --> 00:36:01,151
Speaker 1: determine almost everything about how the attack in Benghazi was

597
00:36:01,151 --> 00:36:10,231
Speaker 1: initially misunderstood in the United States. Up on the rooft

598
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:12,551
Speaker 1: Wicklan didn't know what time it was or how long

599
00:36:12,591 --> 00:36:14,391
Speaker 1: it had been since he gave up on trying to

600
00:36:14,431 --> 00:36:18,551
Speaker 1: find Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith. After a while, though,

601
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:21,431
Speaker 1: it seemed like the attackers had moved away from his position,

602
00:36:21,791 --> 00:36:24,430
Speaker 1: creating an opportunity for him to escape, and.

603
00:36:24,431 --> 00:36:27,470
Speaker 5: I thought, well, this might be my time pretty soon

604
00:36:27,991 --> 00:36:31,591
Speaker 5: to carry out my plan. Then I got a call

605
00:36:31,631 --> 00:36:33,791
Speaker 5: over the radio and it was Dave Ouben.

606
00:36:34,471 --> 00:36:37,871
Speaker 1: Dave Eben was another DS agent and Wickman's friend from training.

607
00:36:38,351 --> 00:36:39,951
Speaker 1: The two of them had been out by the pool

608
00:36:39,991 --> 00:36:43,310
Speaker 1: together when the attackers first arrived at the compound. They

609
00:36:43,351 --> 00:36:45,351
Speaker 1: hadn't seen each other or spoken since.

610
00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:50,951
Speaker 5: Dave called and basically said, you know, Scott, are you alive.

611
00:36:51,831 --> 00:36:54,591
Speaker 5: I called back and I was like, yes, yeah, I'm

612
00:36:54,631 --> 00:36:58,111
Speaker 5: still alive. I'm still here. Where are you guys? I

613
00:36:58,190 --> 00:37:03,031
Speaker 5: need some help, And they said we're coming.

614
00:37:07,031 --> 00:37:09,551
Speaker 1: Wicklin says the other DS agents came to the side

615
00:37:09,551 --> 00:37:13,471
Speaker 1: of Villis where he was hiding and signaled to him. Wickland,

616
00:37:13,511 --> 00:37:16,111
Speaker 1: still barefoot, climbed down the ladder and told them he

617
00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:19,511
Speaker 1: thought Ambassador Stevens and Shawn Smith were still inside the building.

618
00:37:20,151 --> 00:37:23,431
Speaker 5: When I see them, it's like, oh, my gosh, I

619
00:37:23,591 --> 00:37:27,270
Speaker 5: might survive. I might survive this because I now have

620
00:37:28,551 --> 00:37:31,230
Speaker 5: my teammates. I'm not alone anymore. That was the big

621
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:34,111
Speaker 5: thing for me was I thought I was alone like

622
00:37:34,151 --> 00:37:39,471
Speaker 5: this entire time. I thought it was just me. Right away,

623
00:37:39,831 --> 00:37:42,391
Speaker 5: they were jumping in the burning building to try and

624
00:37:42,431 --> 00:37:44,431
Speaker 5: find ambass Stevens and Shawn Smith.

625
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:48,191
Speaker 1: As the other DS agents took turns entering the building,

626
00:37:48,671 --> 00:37:51,111
Speaker 1: they were joined by the team of private contractors from

627
00:37:51,111 --> 00:37:54,951
Speaker 1: the CIA Annex. After a firefight on their way into

628
00:37:55,031 --> 00:37:58,710
Speaker 1: the compound, the CIA contractors had managed to scare off

629
00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:03,671
Speaker 1: some of the attackers, at least temporarily. Now they joined

630
00:38:03,671 --> 00:38:06,631
Speaker 1: in the desperate search for Stevens and Smith, entering the

631
00:38:06,671 --> 00:38:09,631
Speaker 1: villa through the windows, Scott Wickland had identified, doing a

632
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:11,870
Speaker 1: lap side as long as they could stand it, and

633
00:38:11,911 --> 00:38:16,710
Speaker 1: circling back out again. Finally, one of the DS agents

634
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:21,191
Speaker 1: found Sean Smith. He was dead, apparently of smoke and elation,

635
00:38:21,671 --> 00:38:25,591
Speaker 1: and the agent pulled his body out of the villa.

636
00:38:26,071 --> 00:38:28,151
Speaker 1: It wasn't long after that it seemed like the fighting

637
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:29,071
Speaker 1: might start up again.

638
00:38:33,071 --> 00:38:36,711
Speaker 5: We start feeling pressure from like attackers again. There's people

639
00:38:36,791 --> 00:38:39,951
Speaker 5: who are kind of hiding out at one of the gates,

640
00:38:40,071 --> 00:38:42,710
Speaker 5: and so we're starting to feel like, you know, we

641
00:38:42,951 --> 00:38:44,871
Speaker 5: have to get moving. We have to get out of

642
00:38:44,911 --> 00:38:46,871
Speaker 5: here before there's a second attack.

643
00:38:48,270 --> 00:38:51,671
Speaker 1: Though they still hadn't found Stevens, the DS agents and

644
00:38:51,671 --> 00:38:54,551
Speaker 1: the contractors decided it was time to evacuate to the

645
00:38:54,591 --> 00:38:59,470
Speaker 1: nearby CIA base. The DS agents went first, packing into

646
00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,831
Speaker 1: one of the armored vehicles that was kept at the compound.

647
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:06,031
Speaker 1: Despite his condition, Wickland got into the driver's seat. He

648
00:39:06,071 --> 00:39:08,511
Speaker 1: had been in Benghazi the longest and he knew the

649
00:39:08,551 --> 00:39:13,071
Speaker 1: way to the annex. Meanwhile, the CIA contractors loaded Sean

650
00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:16,831
Speaker 1: Smith's body into the car they'd arrived in. After beating

651
00:39:16,871 --> 00:39:19,750
Speaker 1: back another advance from the attackers. They pulled out of

652
00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:24,511
Speaker 1: the compound two. It was eleven seventeen PM, about an

653
00:39:24,551 --> 00:39:28,191
Speaker 1: hour and a half after the attack first started. Wherever

654
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:32,951
Speaker 1: Ambassador Stevens was now, it wasn't with the Americans. Baker

655
00:39:32,991 --> 00:39:35,351
Speaker 1: Habib worried that his friend had been kidnapped.

656
00:39:35,791 --> 00:39:36,310
Speaker 7: At that time.

657
00:39:36,391 --> 00:39:42,230
Speaker 3: I was in contact with those people who got Sjonah Smith, Buddy.

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Speaker 3: I thought Chris was out of the compound at that time.

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Speaker 3: So you say, just came to my mind that Chris

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Speaker 3: would be a tortured first, then he killed by them,

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Speaker 3: and everything is just in my mind.

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Speaker 7: So at that time was what was suitable.

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Speaker 1: At the embassy in Tripoli, Greg Hicks had been trying

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Speaker 1: to solicit some kind of help from somewhere before another

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Speaker 1: wave of attacks could hit the Americans. At what point

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Speaker 1: were you told that basically there wasn't any help coming

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Speaker 1: from outside of Libya.

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Speaker 2: That was AFRICOM telling the Defense attesche that they had

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Speaker 2: nothing available to send, and that happened at about eleven PM.

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Speaker 1: AFRICOM is part of the Department of Defense. It's responsible

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Speaker 1: for American military activity in Africa. On the night of

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Speaker 1: the attack, AFRICAM told Hicks. The nearest military resources were

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Speaker 1: fighter planes stationed in Aviano, Italy that was at least

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Speaker 1: a two or three hour flight from Benghazi. On top

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Speaker 1: of that, there were no tankers available for the planes

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Speaker 1: to refuel.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, that's why there was no military response, because the

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Speaker 2: military wasn't ready for any eventuality.

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Speaker 1: On nine to eleven, it appeared that the Americans' only

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Speaker 1: option to launch a rescue mission from Tripoli, so a

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Speaker 1: team of private security contractors based in the Capitol boarded

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Speaker 1: a flight to Benghazi. We'll be right back. Even after

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Speaker 1: the Americans evacuated the Benghazi compound, the large crowd of

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Speaker 1: Libyans Baker Habib had seen nearby continued to grow.

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Speaker 3: So you see many people just coming and keep coming

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Speaker 3: to the American mission because Biebo was curious to know

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Speaker 3: what was going on at that time and what happened.

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Speaker 3: Many of them just was to be there with their

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Speaker 3: cell phone to just record what was going on.

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Speaker 1: What you're hearing is a cell phone video recorded by

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Speaker 1: a man named fad alba Khush, who later shared his

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Speaker 1: footage with American news networks. Some people looted the compound,

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Speaker 1: taking everything from television sets to coils of rope. One

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Speaker 1: guy even picked up a container of chocolate syrup and

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Speaker 1: walked through the compound, squirting it into his mouth. Then,

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Speaker 1: around one o'clock in the morning, someone found a man

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Speaker 1: in Villa C. He was unresponsive and covered in soot.

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Speaker 1: In the cell phone video, you can see a group

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Speaker 1: of people pull the man's body out of the villa.

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Speaker 1: You can hear them yelling in Arabic, he's alive, He's alive. Later,

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Speaker 1: some American commentators would say the Libyans dragged the man

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Speaker 1: through the streets. In reality, they immediately brought him to

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Speaker 1: the Bengazi Medical Center and within fifteen minutes he was

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Speaker 1: in a hospital bed. Soon after, the American Embassy in

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Speaker 1: Tripoli received a call from Scott Wickland's phone. It was

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Speaker 1: the same number that Greg Hicks had reached Chris Stevens

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Speaker 1: on earlier in the night, but this time it and

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Speaker 1: Steven's on the other line. It was a man speaking Arabic,

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Speaker 1: saying he was at the hospital with someone who looked

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Speaker 1: like the ambassador. Hicks and his colleagues pressed the man

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Speaker 1: for something more concrete, but he would not provide a

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Speaker 1: photograph or any other confirmation.

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Speaker 2: We were very, very focused on asking the kinds of

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Speaker 2: questions that would reveal whether we were talking to a

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Speaker 2: friend or an enemy.

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Speaker 1: The Americans felt like they couldn't take any information at

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Speaker 1: face value. It was more than possible that Wickland's cell

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Speaker 1: phone had been stolen from the compound and that the

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Speaker 1: attackers were now trying to lure them into a trap.

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Speaker 2: Then this whole confusing conversation begins where we understand he's

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Speaker 2: taken to a hospital, and the government keeps telling as well,

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Speaker 2: we know he's safe, and we keep going where is he?

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Speaker 2: And they won't tell us where he is, So our

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Speaker 2: view is that he's a prisoner and not in a

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Speaker 2: safe place.

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Speaker 1: Baker Habib, who was in touch with State Department officials,

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Speaker 1: volunteered to go to the hospital and see for himself

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Speaker 1: if the man was Chris Stevens, but he was told

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Speaker 1: he couldn't go. It turned out there was intelligence saying

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Speaker 1: that because of his close association with the Americans, Habib

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Speaker 1: might be a target too.

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Speaker 7: So I told him how about sending someone I trust

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Speaker 7: and someone in you Christine is very well he could

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Speaker 7: go there without any problem.

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Speaker 1: So that plan was set in motion, and after a

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Speaker 1: while Habib's friend called him from the hospital.

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Speaker 7: So he called me back and.

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Speaker 3: Told me that I'm next to him. Yes, his christive

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Speaker 3: is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Stevens was dead. Habib's friend said someone needed to come

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Speaker 1: get his body from the hospital, and Habib told him

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Speaker 1: he was on his way. Chris Stevens was reported killed

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Speaker 1: in action at four fifteen am. By that time, the

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Speaker 1: Americans who had gathered at the CIA base, including Scott Wickland,

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Speaker 1: his fellow DS agents, and the CIA contractors, had all

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Speaker 1: spent hours bracing themselves for another attack. Though locals didn't

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Speaker 1: officially know where the CIA annex was, it was possible

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Speaker 1: that someone had tracked the Americans as they made their

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Speaker 1: way there from the compound. There had been several moments

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Speaker 1: while Wickland was driving to the annex when he thought

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Speaker 1: someone was following him. When he got there, the tail

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Speaker 1: was gone, but he and the other Americans wanted to

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Speaker 1: be ready for the worst.

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Speaker 5: We prepared by putting people up on the roof and

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Speaker 5: making sure that they were armed. You know. We had

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Speaker 5: people monitoring to make sure that we could see these people.

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Speaker 5: And I stayed inside just trying to kind of recuperate

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Speaker 5: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Were you able to get medical attention at that point.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there wasn't a whole lot that we could

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Speaker 5: do for me. I got some shoes, which was great.

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Speaker 1: Soon enough, it turned out Wickland and the others had

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Speaker 1: been right to worry. Whoever was trying to expel them

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Speaker 1: from Benghazi had figured out where they were. Aided by

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Speaker 1: night vision goggles, the Americans prevailed in two brief firefights,

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Speaker 1: but everyone was dreading the sunrise, when light would give

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Speaker 1: the attackers a clearer view of the CIA base. At

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Speaker 1: five am, reinforcements finally arrived from Tripoli. Among them was

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Speaker 1: a CIA contractor named Glen Doherty, who joined a number

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Speaker 1: of others, including a contractor named Tyrone Woods, on the

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Speaker 1: roof of the main building as the sky began to

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Speaker 1: turn from black to deep blue. The plan was to

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Speaker 1: get every American out of Benghazi as soon as humanly possible.

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Speaker 5: But then, you know, was I expecting mortars?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: I was not expecting mortars, and I definitely wasn't expecting

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Speaker 5: the accuracy the mortars.

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Speaker 1: In the space of ninety seconds, six mortars hit the

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Speaker 1: Benghazi CIA base. Three of them exploded on the roof

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Speaker 1: of the main building, where most of the Americans were hiding.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was standing right below the ceiling of

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Speaker 5: where they're impacting. But I think the heaviest part of

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Speaker 5: the entire experience was knowing that, you know, I've I

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Speaker 5: have some friends up on that roof, and I don't

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Speaker 5: know why they're not answering the radio call. I don't

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Speaker 5: know how they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were both killed in the explosions.

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Speaker 1: Another CIA contractor, Mark Geist, and Scott Wickman's friend Dave

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Speaker 1: Uben were critically injured. After that, the attackers seemed to

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Speaker 1: withdraw and the Americans prepared to leave Benghazi. At the airport,

791
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Speaker 1: the plane that the trip team had used to get

792
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Speaker 1: to Benghazi was still sitting on the tarmac. It was

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Speaker 1: too small to fit everyone who needed to evacuate, which

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Speaker 1: meant that those needing immediate medical attention, including Scott Wickland,

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Speaker 1: were sent ahead. In the meantime, one of Wickland's fellow

796
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Speaker 1: DS agents called Baker Habib to update him on the situation.

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Speaker 1: A group of Libyans the Americans trusted had gone to

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Speaker 1: the Benghazi Medical Center to retrieve Stevens's body.

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Speaker 9: I wasn't my way to the hospital then receive a

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Speaker 9: qullo from one of the ds and he said, bo,

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Speaker 9: don't go to a hospital. He said why, he said,

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Speaker 9: we already got the buddy, We got the remains. Just

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Speaker 9: come straightforward to the to the airport.

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Speaker 1: When Habib arrived at the airport, he said goodbye to

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Speaker 1: his friend.

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Speaker 9: He was there at the airport.

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Speaker 4: He's a front of mere lifeless.

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Speaker 3: And he was there.

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Speaker 7: In the city.

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Speaker 9: He loved to support, to back up and to obendge

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Speaker 9: to the United States.

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Speaker 7: So I spoke to him.

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Speaker 4: I told him, Chris, what if it takes, I was

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Speaker 4: doing him best to bring those criminals to justice.

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Speaker 1: Other Libyans who had known Chris Stevens during his time

816
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Speaker 1: in Benghazi came to the tarmac as well. Many of

817
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Speaker 1: them were in tears, aware that the American evacuation probably

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Speaker 1: meant the end of the US presence in Benghazi. Greg

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Speaker 1: Hicks was aware of it too.

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Speaker 2: I distinctly remember arguing that if we leave, then we've lost.

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Speaker 2: They went that was the purpose of the attack, was

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Speaker 2: the chasers out of the country. So my view was

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Speaker 2: that we needed to take some time, regroup, rebuild, and

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Speaker 2: then continue our job.

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Speaker 1: The Libyan Air Force provided a cargo plane for the

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Speaker 1: remaining Americans. The bodies of Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods,

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Speaker 1: and Glen Doherty were loaded in as well. After a

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Speaker 1: stop in Tripoli, Scott Wickland and the others boarded a

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Speaker 1: plane for Europe.

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Speaker 5: We loaded up on the plane and there were four coffins.

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Speaker 5: You know, everybody's looking at these coffins and at these

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Speaker 5: people and silently trying to figure out what just happened.

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Speaker 1: On the next episode of Fiasco, the attack in Benghazi

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Speaker 1: enters the bloodstream of American politics.

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Speaker 3: That took the president fourteen days before he called the

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Speaker 3: attack in Benghazzi an active chair.

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Speaker 5: Get the transfer.

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Speaker 1: For a list of books, articles, and documentaries we used

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Speaker 1: in our research, follow the link in our show notes.

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Speaker 1: Fiasco is a production of Prolog Projects, and it's distributed

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Speaker 1: was Francis Carr. Our score was composed by Dan English,

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