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Speaker 1: what for a conference that has been heavily, probably deservedly

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Speaker 1: That will then be the magic bullet that everything finally happens.

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Speaker 1: in Based on the current TV rights and so, um,

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Speaker 1: They go to in seven in in Bowls two years ago,

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Speaker 1: have to play when it's one hundred eight on the

430
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: field at kickoff. You're just gonna have to. And the

431
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: fans will get over it and they will show up.

432
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: If you make that that that the identity, and you

433
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: make it a consistent kickoff time, the fans will show up.

434
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: I know this because that stadium used to be all

435
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: metal bleachers and George I went out and I watched

436
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: you play when when you were playing for Jacksonville, I

437
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: went to Arizona Cardinals game. It was blaze and we

438
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: remember that was that was the afternoon kickoff too, wasn't

439
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: even late like one of those one o'clock kickoff. What

440
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: it is fire outside? Yeah, and we and and and

441
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: the fans will go if you give them, uh, if

442
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: they know that that's what they're getting into, they'll go

443
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: out there. They'll party, they'll have a good time, they'll

444
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: take care of each other. And yeah, you could say, like, oh,

445
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: but we're losing some fans because they don't want to

446
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: go sit out there on the heat. But we're already

447
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: at Arizona State dropping six to seven in attendance every

448
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: single year due to the other factors. If you're at

449
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: University of Washington, you should be playing under those lights,

450
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: prime time every time in that stadium, Like you should

451
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: be getting a six o'clock kickoff every time you're at

452
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: home with the wind and and just the noise and

453
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: and everything. Everybody. You know, if you're if you're playing

454
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: your football games in l A, that's a one o'clock kickoff,

455
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: and you know, and those games are in the daytime

456
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: in in that beautiful place, and that's what it's known for.

457
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're in Colorado, you know, maybe

458
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: an early kickoff when it's still like super cold and

459
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: in in October is something that nobody wants to come play. Like,

460
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: embrace the things that make your stadium a little bit

461
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: miserable and a little bit different, and where that identity.

462
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: You know, you see fans going shirtless in Green Bay

463
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: because that tradition is there, like in or It Soldier

464
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: Field in Chicago. In the NFL, I think the NFL

465
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: really has it right that you build tradtion through making

466
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: an identity and then having your fan base fit into

467
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: that identity. It's really hard to establish any type of

468
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: identity at all when you kick off at a different

469
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: time every single week, where you don't know what's going

470
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: to happen until six days out, and when you don't

471
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: actually promote what makes these schools so diverse and so different.

472
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if you ever been to a game in

473
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Salt Lake, those fans are on you like there's only

474
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: in that stadium it might as well be eighty because

475
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: the way that the bleachers are sloped and how close

476
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: they are to the sidelines. Like play that up the

477
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: salt Lake and the fans have no problem being part

478
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: of that they're crazy, but Salt Lake is a hostile

479
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: place to play and they should be promoting the hell

480
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: out of that, and instead all of the energy is

481
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: just into hey, what time are we gonna and it

482
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: could be anybody these nine am kickoffs. You and I

483
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: both know it's not gonna be any good teams. No, no, no, no, no, no,

484
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna well actually, actually I don't. I don't

485
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: agree with that, Ralph, because they might mess around and

486
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: put Washington and Oregon and a nine am kickoff. I mean,

487
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's and that's why I say the pact

488
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: off has the craft. It schedules, like stop just stop

489
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: just sending it out to Colorado to the company and

490
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: letting them come up with whatever. Because you want parody,

491
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: stop scheduling for a parody. You need halves and have not.

492
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's unfortunate, but you need teams that

493
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: are are that appear elite even if they're not, because

494
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: that's what happens in other conferences. You got the SEC

495
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Alabama Alabama this year. Their non conference is is Duke

496
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I T T Tech Divide and and the and the

497
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: and the and the Orphanage, Like that's who they're playing

498
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: in their nonconference and then they played their conference games,

499
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: and then they scheduled them for success to give them

500
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: bye weeks. All of this and coming into the season,

501
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: we know who the teams that are. When the schedules

502
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: were made, we already knew who were gonna be the

503
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: better teams in the back twelve Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah,

504
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: and like, we we knew that already. So if you

505
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: know that, then backload the schedule that way, Oregon plays

506
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Washington towards the end of the year. Make it so

507
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Stanford plays Oregon towards the end of the year, like

508
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: and a bye week in front of it. The way

509
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: you get to to build up the pomp and circumstances,

510
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: the hype of the entire week, Like when when Alabama

511
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: plays l s U you hear about that game because

512
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: it's a bye week in between, or they play a

513
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: cupcake November cupcake in between, you hear about that game

514
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: for two straight weeks. For two weeks, you hear about it,

515
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: and then they get to artificially move up the ranking

516
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: because of that, and the Pac twealth has to be

517
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: willing to do that. So you know, you talked about

518
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: us kind of knowing who is gonna be the good teams.

519
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: And I think that that should bring us into our

520
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: third segment, which is actually revealing our ballots, revealing who

521
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: we believe is going to be in each place in

522
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: the North and the South, which which I think I

523
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: think you and I have already outlined that we have

524
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: a couple of very glaring differences. But I'm interested. I mean,

525
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: let's let's start up in in in your neck of

526
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: the woods where you played. Um, who do you have

527
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: finishing first in the Pack twelve North? I have Oregon

528
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: finished in first in the Pac twelve North. They have

529
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the entire conference and probably

530
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: in the entire nation. They definitely have most experienced. Um,

531
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of guys who are going to

532
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: be NFL players. And I think at their offense that

533
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Oregon season hinges itself on one thing. That is the

534
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: office of coordinator and quarterback coach Arroyo, how he calls

535
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: this offense and how he runs the offense. Last year,

536
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: the team started out like gangbusters. They slowed down at

537
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: the end of the year, couldn't score, the offense became

538
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: a little bit stale. They did have some injuries, but

539
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: that's not really a good excuse. So Oregon season is

540
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: going to hinge upon their offensive coordinator. I mean, that's

541
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: that's literally it. They got uh coach Avelos, the defensive

542
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: coordinator from Boise State, who I hear is doing a

543
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: wonderful job there. They have got a lot of the

544
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: fighting out of the building because Jim Levitt, who was

545
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator at Colorado who came over to Oregon,

546
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: him and Mario Christo Ball weren't getting along. So now

547
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: that you've got that out of the building, the defense

548
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: should be in good shape. They're very talented, they're good

549
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: up front, they're good in the especially in the defensive secondary.

550
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: So they have a real shot. And you look at

551
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: this team and you're like, this is a team that

552
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: if their offense is good, because their defense is gonna

553
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: be real solid, that could that could be a national championship,

554
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: well Pact twelve championship and a playoff potential team. So

555
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: that's why I got first in the North. I got

556
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: Washington second in the North. I would I would have

557
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: Stanford second in the North, but their schedule is just brutal.

558
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Like their schedule is is brutal. I mean, I would

559
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: love all conference schedules to look like Stanford's, but they

560
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: just like like they're doing it right, but they're doing

561
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: it wrong at the same time because they got Northwestern,

562
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: then at USC at UCF, Oregon at Oregon State, why

563
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: Shington All that's the that's there are no bye weeks

564
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: in between there, that's their beginning of the season. That's

565
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: a ridiculous start to the season and it's gonna be

566
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: extremely tough. So you're looking at your like, man, I

567
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: just don't know how they make it through that unscathed.

568
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it. And David Shaw

569
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: has to has to let kJ Costello throw the football,

570
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: and you know, and last year they couldn't run the football.

571
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: So if you can't run the football the way you

572
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: Stanford normally does, let the boy throw the ball. And

573
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: then and then you got um Cal who is going

574
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: to like the north is so loaded, Ralph, I mean,

575
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: it's crazy. You have calip four. Yeah, I do. I

576
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: do have Cal have California Washington State at five, in

577
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: Oregon State at six, but at but at the same time,

578
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: with Stanford schedule, Cal could Cal could finish third like

579
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: like Cal is the most Cal is the most underrated

580
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: team in the back twelve. Last year, Cal scored I

581
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: think twenty points a game and gave up um nineteen

582
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: points a game, I mean nineteen points or or it

583
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: was nineteen and eighteen. They only scored one more point

584
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: than they gave up, which is usually a recipe for

585
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: a disaster. But their defense is so freaking good. Their

586
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: their defensive backs, coached by Gerald Alexander, who will be

587
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator soon, is going to I mean, they

588
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: have two guys that are probably gonna be first round

589
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: draft picks. So imagine Washington's defense last year, but put

590
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: it at Cow and that's what you got. And if

591
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: they can get Chase Garber's even uh to do even well,

592
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: even better because I know that there's a quarterback thing there.

593
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: Because everybody wondering who's gonna start Devid Monster or Garbers

594
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: that a freshman kid then and they could get him

595
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: to play. Well, Cow's got a shot. What do you think, Roth,

596
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think you first of all,

597
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: you and I we we've got the same four or

598
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: five six. I have Cal going six and six. I

599
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: have Washington State going seven and five. But I have

600
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: cal beating Washington State to be above them, so and

601
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one of those haters that that doesn't take

602
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: into account the fact that Washington State has the most

603
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: wins in the PAC twelve over the last three years.

604
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I still I am not a believer. I think that

605
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: they'll come back down to earth a little bit, and

606
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: I look forward to being wrong because I think I

607
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: said the same thing about him last year. So we'll

608
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: see if that plug in play system they have at

609
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: quarterback up there is working for them. But I have

610
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: Washington State at five. I've calif Oregon State at six.

611
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: I like some of the things that Oregon State is doing.

612
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they'll be able to stop

613
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: any of the bleeding Defensively. They sure can run the

614
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: ball though, Jamar Jefferson is an incredible running back, and

615
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: they're actually pretty deep at that position and pretty decent

616
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. So you and I have the

617
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: same four or five six, but in the North and

618
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: and this is gonna seem like a stretch, especially considering

619
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: they graduated pretty much their entire defense last year. But

620
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: I have Washington going eleven and one. You win in

621
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: the North, Yeah, absolutely. I have them winning pretty much

622
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: every game. I have them going into the October nineteenth

623
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: game at home against Oregon, which I think will make

624
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: the difference. I have them going into that game with

625
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: only one loss happening at Stanford. Yeah, the the Eastern

626
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Washington They're gonna do. You who do you have them

627
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: losing to Stanford at Stanford? That's it. I have them

628
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: losing one game all season because their road games. Their

629
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: road games are relatively easy, uh, Arizona, Oregon State, in Colorado,

630
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: That's all they have to worry about on the road.

631
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: In conference, they do go to b y U, but

632
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: I think B y U is a little bit too

633
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: young to really pose a challenge to them. Honestly, Like

634
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: Jacobson is probably the best high school arm that I've

635
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: ever seen, and so if he can recapture some of

636
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: that magic and being back home in Washington with some

637
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: of the weapons they have on this offense, I do

638
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: have questions about them. I don't know if Salvon Ahmed

639
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: is a feature back, and I do know that they're

640
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna have about nine new starters on defense. But the

641
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: thing about those nine new starters, like Keith Taylor and

642
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Levi on Wooz Rique and and guys like that. They

643
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: were all superstars, Brandon McKinney, they were all superstars in

644
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: high school. They've been chomping at the bit just to

645
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: be able to get on the field. So they're about

646
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: to unleash a whole new level of talent on the

647
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: Pack twelve with the recruiting they've done on the defensive

648
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: side of the ball. It all really comes down to

649
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: Jacob Eeson. And the one question mark I have for

650
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: a team like Oregon is in their secondary. It's they

651
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: got they got what four juniors lashes Lenore graham Um

652
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: at the cornerbacks and the best kid I think in

653
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: terms of NFL but central in their secondary as the

654
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: kid named Javon Holland. Like that kid is absolutely special

655
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: and spectacular. But but in terms of Washington though, I

656
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: do agree with you with Jacobson. I think that he

657
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: has to play well, but I'm not sold on on

658
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: on him the same way everybody else is. I saw

659
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: him playing Georgia. He's a pretty good quarterback. Like he's

660
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: not He's not a bump, but it is totally different

661
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: having to throw the ball as many times a game

662
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: as he's going to have to in the PAC twelve

663
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: against complex coverages then they do in the SEC, where

664
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: like quarterback player is not at a premium in the

665
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: SEC on a regular basis. I agree there, but I

666
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: don't think that he converted from being a West Coast

667
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: quarterback justin a couple of years out at Georgia. He's

668
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna be looking out on defenses full of kids that

669
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: he destroyed at the high school level, and so, like,

670
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: what do you think about it? Down? Uh, the tight

671
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: ends are incredible, right and Hunter Brian and kay Doon

672
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: are are really really good. I like the offensive line

673
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: not as much as I like Oregan's offensive line. Um,

674
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: but I mean the wide receivers are gonna have to

675
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: step up. Air and Fuller and ty Jones are over

676
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: to eight. But you know, someone's gonna have to come

677
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: out and be a star, because again I don't think

678
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: they're going to get the production from the running back position.

679
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: Their backup, Sean McGrew. He's about five ft six and

680
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: you know he'll he'll be a huge weapon in the

681
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: passing game. Um but I don't know if salvon On

682
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: med goes down, I honestly don't know what they're gonna

683
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: do it right. So it's a lot of it's really conditional.

684
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: I talked to the I saw some of the Washington

685
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: coaches in one in an airport, and I was talking

686
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: to them about the team, and they thought that Jake

687
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: Browning got a little bit of a bad rap last year,

688
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: even because they're their weapons around him, weren't that great

689
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: besides Gaskins and besides Gaskin in the backfield that they

690
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: didn't I mean, they had Coleman too, but they didn't really.

691
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: But you know, it's different with your white outs because

692
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: he was like, uh. The coaches said that they were

693
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: so explosive the previous years with the um what is

694
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: the kid's name who got drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals

695
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: the past kid? Oh, I know who you're talking about.

696
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to remember though. Um. Yeah,

697
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: So that that they had him, they had Dante Pettis

698
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: like that, they had dudes at white out and last year,

699
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: if you noticed that they didn't spread it out and

700
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: let Jake Browning throw it or run it like he

701
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: had in the past. Because and they said that that

702
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: was due to the lack of experience and to be honest,

703
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of lack of talent at the wide

704
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: receiver position, so they thought that this year that hopefully

705
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: that those guys were able to mature and get a

706
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: little bit better and help out Jacobs. And they are

707
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: depending on the same guys, I mean, Fuller, uh Pecalia

708
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Jones there. They I think they were three of the

709
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: top receivers on the team, so that I mean they're

710
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: returning a lot of experience. Ten touchdowns between them, almost

711
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty receptions between the three of them.

712
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: But again, none of them are stocks, none of them

713
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: are game breakers, and so you're gonna have to if

714
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Jacob Eeson is really going to have to be a

715
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: distributor move the ball all over the field, or someone's

716
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to break out of that mix. Um. And

717
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they have really any young guys on

718
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the but I do believe just

719
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: with the way that their schedule set up and getting

720
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: Oregon at home and you taught at home in back

721
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: to back weeks, that's gonna be or not. They get

722
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: a week off before you talk, but getting Oregon and

723
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: You taught at home was the biggest thing for me

724
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: when I was breaking this schedule down, and then I

725
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: have Stanford and Oregon interchangeably both at nine and three.

726
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: I kind of flipped a coin and I have Stanford

727
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: at two Oregon at three. The reason that I have

728
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Oregon at three, probably the primary reason that I have

729
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: Oregon at three, is just knowing that Stanford's bringing a

730
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: really good quarterback. Washington's bringing, in my mind, a really

731
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: good quarterback. And and the only question mark I really

732
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: have on Oregon step chart is that secondary. And to

733
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: be honest, I know there's a ton of hype there

734
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: for that defensive line, but I got to see him

735
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: in action first. I really really want to see what

736
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Dude? So you already know about

737
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: George Jordan Scott who is Yeah, he's fantastic. Yeah, And um,

738
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean you need somebody you need and and he's

739
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna ruin people in the running game for sure,

740
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: but you need if cameon, Thibodeau comes as advertised off

741
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: the edge. It's over like it, but but it's very rare.

742
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: And you know this, it's very rare for an edge

743
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: rusher to be who he's gonna be as a freshman,

744
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: unless he's got unless he's two rail sucks, which which

745
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, And then I think that they have some

746
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: under other underrated pass rushers like Gus Cumberlander UM and

747
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: got a lot of experience too, And then that that

748
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: d A Johnson kid who transfer from Miami is supposed

749
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: to be legit two UM, So we'll we'll see, man,

750
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be interesting. So who do you

751
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: have oregonst three losses? As? Let me see? I think

752
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: I have them dropping to Auburn. Oh God, you're already

753
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: killing killing the conference? Get go on? Yeah, Well, I

754
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: can only go off of how things have how things

755
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: have gone previously, and it's hard to have a ton

756
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: of faith in the conference right now. But I think

757
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: Auburn UH at Stanford I thought was gonna be rough,

758
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: and at Washington, so I basically have them running the

759
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: table at home UM and beating USC at USC. So

760
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: I have them at nine and three with I guess

761
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker would be all that September twenty one game

762
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: at Stanford. If they're able to win that game, then

763
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I think that they'll they'll not only hang on UM

764
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: and UH and and be the number two team in

765
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: the conference, but they might have the momentum to go

766
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: ahead and beat Washington as well. So I think the

767
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: most important game for the conference is definitely the kickoff

768
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: game on August thirty one. But the most important game

769
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: for for Oregon is going when they jump from playing

770
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Montana to at Stanford, because that's gonna be like jumping

771
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: from the hot tub into the icing. You know, I

772
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: see cold water. That's gonna be that's that's gonna be rough.

773
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a little bit of a wake up call.

774
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: So how do you how do you have what you said?

775
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: You have Stanford at nine in three? Right? Yep? I

776
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: have Washington eleven and one, Stanford nine and three, Oregon

777
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: nine and three. I got calt six and six, Washington

778
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: State at seven and five by having the worst conference

779
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: record in Oregon State. Who are Stanford's three losses? Let's see,

780
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: I think I have uh. I think I have Stanford

781
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: losing to some teams that they shouldn't lose too, like

782
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: they do every year. I think they drop that Cow game.

783
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: They played at the level of their competition. I do

784
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: I do. I think have them losing that Cow game,

785
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: but Notre Dame. Let's yeah, I think that is one

786
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: of them. As well, and I think I might have

787
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: them actually screwing up against USC. Yeah, I got them

788
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: losing to USC two this year because I think USC

789
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: is mad, and I think that those players at USC

790
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: really like Clay Hilton and they know that his that

791
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: his asses on a He's not even on a hot seat.

792
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: He's on an injection seat right now. Yeah, he's in

793
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: danger of being the second coach that they left at

794
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: an airport for sure. I thought they were going to

795
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: leave them leave him there last year. Man, Yeah, I

796
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: think so. I think Notre Dame is gonna be tough.

797
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, if they come out and loose to Northwestern,

798
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be real bad. But because they did struggle

799
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: last year, they went seven and five and lost four

800
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: conference games. But they play at UCS. I mean they

801
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: got Northwestern, at USC and at UCF and then home

802
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: against Oregon all in a row that they could start here.

803
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: For you. You, that's why I'm so surprised that you

804
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: pick Stanford to beat Oregon after the way that their

805
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: schedule starts. Man, Like, that's brutal. Yeah, it's And it's

806
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: tough for me because they got the most they got

807
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: the most experienced quarterback in the in the Uh, they'm

808
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: I would put him up there and backtracking, Ralph, go

809
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: ahead and backtracking you can. You can change your opinion now,

810
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean I would put him up there

811
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: just production wise with Herbert yeah, uh yeah, and especially

812
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: especially because they had to kind of get away from

813
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: their game plan to get him that production. So that

814
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: was a pleasant surprise. They've got the best offensive lineman

815
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: in the conference in Walker Little. They got the best

816
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: tight end in the conference in Kolee Parkinson. So the

817
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: guys that they usually rely on are there. Running back

818
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: is a question mark. Um, but you know it's not

819
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: like cam Cameron Scarlett, he did score eight touchdowns last year.

820
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: He's back, But Camera Scarlet is not special. Like he's

821
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: a good back. I mean he is, and I know

822
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: the Oregon is is my squad, but I don't think

823
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: that c J. Verdale is even a special back. I

824
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: think he's a good back. I think he is more. Um,

825
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: I think he's more who who with some other decent

826
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: I think he's more. He's more of a like, uh,

827
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: what's that dude from Thunderbird High School that was a

828
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: four year backup out there? Um? Can I Ben Wall.

829
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, no, I think he's better

830
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: than that. I think he's more of a a Joe

831
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: McKnight than a Reggie Bush, if that makes it okay,

832
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: So still still a feature guy, but not not like electric,

833
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: not elite. Yeah, yeah, exactly, he's He's Royce Freeman, not

834
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart. Yeah, you know he's good. You know he's good,

835
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: kind of like that. How do you what do you

836
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: think Mike Leaches, what is gonna do this year? And

837
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: by the way, on the side note, I think Mike

838
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Lee shrunk. I thought he was taller. I mean I've

839
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: stood next to him, I've talked to him. But this year,

840
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I feel like he's getting You know how old people

841
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: shrink when they get ome. Yeah, yeah, I think I

842
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: think he might even be in a little bit better shape.

843
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: But like his head size didn't change. He's out there

844
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: carrying a mascot's head on a on a on a

845
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: like a diminutive guy's body. But what happened a lot

846
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: of weight, Yeah, and then he's got he's got the

847
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: puffy hair, so it makes the head even bigger. And

848
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at I think they're gonna probably

849
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: win out their their non conference schedule because it's not

850
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: really that well, they better no Mexico State, Northern Colorado

851
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: and Houston. But I mean, you saw what Houston did

852
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: the University of Arizona last year, so like that's not

853
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: a gimme, and it's at Houston. But I do I

854
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: do think that they'll get those and then and then

855
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean at Utah September at or at Arizona State,

856
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: which I mean if you're from Pullman and you've got

857
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: an October twelve game, I hope that game kicks off

858
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: at like two in the afternoon because then you're gonna

859
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: see then you're gonna then you're really gonna see the difference,

860
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: just like Arizona State going up in mid October, you know,

861
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: to play at Washington State. I would love for that

862
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: game to kickoff at seven thirty, just because it's so

863
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: much fun to see a fish out of water and

864
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: see how they adapt and how they evolved, you know. Um,

865
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: and then haven't they got at Oregon and at and

866
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I have them losing at Cow but that I just

867
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: feel like they go from having a pretty easy schedule

868
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: to really getting into the weeds. Um and then and

869
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: then they've never won the Apple Cup under Leach, Right,

870
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: so you've got you've got the Washington game at the

871
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Um, and that's gonna

872
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: be pretty telling, especially to have to go through with

873
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: another another are a big sky transfer at quarterback, and

874
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: I think they have to. They have two seniors, right,

875
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know if that's a battle

876
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: or not, but I do think that, um. I do

877
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: think it's going to be way less production at quarterback

878
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: last year after what he did last year with the

879
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and now the kid at Eastern Washington had been

880
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: putting up big time numbers gauge brood or I think

881
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: that's how you pronounce it. We will, we will find

882
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: out some but um I if he can turn another

883
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: quarterback into a Heisman finalist, oh, then why would you

884
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: go anywhere else? I mean, besides if you don't like snow,

885
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: but like besides Oklahoma, yeah, exactly, no, exactly and so

886
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: but not everybody can go to Oklahoma. So those should

887
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: really be your top two choices every single year. I

888
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: think losing Jalen Thompson was a much bigger deal than

889
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: I've heard people make it out to be. I think

890
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson was their best defensive player. I think he

891
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: was probably a top five defensive player in the better

892
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: than Hercules. Yeah, I mean he would I think he

893
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: was the best saying I honestly think he was the

894
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: best safety. I think that you when you see an

895
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: NFL team surrender a pick to be able to go

896
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: get somebody in a supplemental draft, I think that should

897
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: tay do everything you know about that player's ability. So

898
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: I think losing him will be a really really big

899
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: deal because there's a really good chance they might have

900
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: to start a freshman in his absence, and you know,

901
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: and that can be kind of tough too. So their

902
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: linebackers are very, very very good. But there's not a

903
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: lot of depth there this team. This is my biggest issue.

904
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: This team does not have depth. They have a lot

905
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: of experience and and behind it are some you know,

906
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: guys that weren't really highly recruited. Uh And and if

907
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: they're not highly recruited, then getting them in early is

908
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: probably a problem. But this program is really good at

909
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: developing and so if that, you know, if they can

910
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: stay healthy, they'll be a lot more competitive than I'm

911
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: giving them credit for. Uh. And they also jam Jamir Calvin,

912
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: their wide receiver. Um, he's uh, he's got way more

913
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: ability than his production has shown, and he'll be a junior.

914
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: If he goes off, it's gonna be really really tough

915
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: to to to stop them because they distribute the ball

916
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: so so well anyway, and he wasn't even a guy

917
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: who was in their top five receivers last year and

918
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna start for them this year. So if he

919
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: goes off and they still have four of their top

920
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: five returning receivers from last year, uh, then they're definitely

921
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. But I don't I don't trust

922
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: in them at the quarterback position or in the defensive backfield.

923
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: And I don't think they have the depth to be

924
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: uh competing for a championship this year. Yeah. And and

925
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: with caw moving on to Cowuges for Hot Tech, and

926
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: I know he hit him a little bit, but this

927
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: is the team. If if I had a crush on

928
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: any team in the back to health, it would be

929
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: Cow just because I believe in their coaches. I believe

930
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: in their coaches staff. But I think that they are

931
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: some players away from like they don't have maybe one

932
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: player maybe one. Well, I don't think they have enough

933
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: talent to to to run through an entire pack twelve

934
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: schedule at this point. But I do think that they

935
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: are recruiting the right guys, and I think in a

936
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: Justin Wilcox provided that like, I don't think he would

937
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: ever go to USC no matter how much money they

938
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: offered him, because he's a principled person and it didn't

939
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: go well last time. But so besides, like U c

940
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: l A or Oregon opening up, I don't or maybe Washington,

941
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: but probably not. I don't see a situation where he

942
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: leaves Cow. He's committed to be in there. He likes it,

943
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, so so so I think that he has

944
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: a like a good uh you know. I think that

945
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: this team is definitely headed in the right direction. Do

946
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: you have anything to add on Oregon State? Oregon State

947
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: is just that I love their I love their running game.

948
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Jamar Jefferson last year wasn't even supposed to be the

949
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: guy and what he did and no one talks about

950
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: it because you know, Benjamin broke the packed twelve single

951
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: game rushing record against Oregon State, which I feel like

952
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: every running back was fixing to try to do against

953
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: them last year, but no one talks about the fact

954
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: that Jamar Jefferson went went off for over two hundred

955
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: yards in that game and he again wasn't even really

956
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy. And so they're they're returning.

957
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: They're returning I think eighteen hundred yards worth of rushing

958
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: from Jamaar Jefferson and Artavis Pierce sixteen touchdowns. I mean

959
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: both our Tavis pierced average almost eight yards of carry. Uh.

960
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: It's really just gonna come down to whether or not

961
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: they get any any production at all from the quarterback position,

962
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: and I personally don't believe they can make it even

963
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: halfway through the season with Jake Gluton taking snaps. I mean,

964
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: Tristan Gabbia was one of like a West Coast darling.

965
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted him, and I think he surprised a lot

966
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: of people by going to Nebraska, which is just something

967
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: that happens in the back cell of the talent from

968
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: out this way leaves to go to other conferences because

969
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: of all the things that we've already discussed. But I

970
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: think Tristan Gebia could be a star and if he

971
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: takes this team over and he's like really a true leader.

972
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're making him sit out this

973
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: year or not, um, but I mean if he if

974
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: he's good to go and he's cleared. They've got really

975
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: good receivers, they've got a pretty experienced offensive line, and

976
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: they're running backs are studs, and so it's really just

977
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna come down to the fact that of like whether

978
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: or not the defense can stop anybody, because the defense

979
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: is bringing back six starters from a defense that was

980
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: twelve in the conference and scoring twelve in rushing yards

981
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: allowed and tent in passing yards allowed. But there's guys

982
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: like Hamilkar Rashed Jr. Who could be a superstar. It

983
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: just it's gonna take some type of consistency, some level

984
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: of coaching skill to make sure that they don't get

985
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: the doors blown off them when they open against Oklahoma State,

986
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: Like they could give up sixty in week one, or

987
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: they give up sixty in week one. I mean, I

988
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: don't know if you're to be able to get people back,

989
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, paying attention to this team at all, are

990
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: taking them seriously. Then they go at Hawaii, and Hawaii

991
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: has been known to score some points. You know, they

992
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: just need to make sure that they're competitive right away,

993
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: Like they can't they can't get the doors blown off them.

994
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: You know, it was nice for them to hang around

995
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: for a half against Ohio State last year. Um, but

996
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: they can't do what they did in the second half

997
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: and give up like forty to Oklahoma State. They can't

998
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: do that, especially they got I don't know why you

999
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: are expecting anything else. I don't know why you're expecting

1000
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: literally anything out of Oregon State at this point in

1001
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: point in time until they show it. I do think

1002
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Smith is doing a good job with the team.

1003
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: I think that they are much better. Like that's like,

1004
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: that's not any knock on them in terms of that,

1005
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: but the reality is that this is not a good

1006
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: football team. They're not competitive, um, I mean, and until

1007
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: they become competitive again, like they're they're just gonna be

1008
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: a foot know when it comes to podcast, when it

1009
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: comes to being talked about, because you because you have

1010
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: to play to the choir, I mean, like you have

1011
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: to play to the crowd and the crowd, and the

1012
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: Oregon State doesn't have the crowd. They have passionate fans,

1013
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: but there's only so much passion that fans can have

1014
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: when you don't give them anything to cheer about, anything

1015
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: to defend your to defend you about. Well, you're gonna

1016
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna score points, and so like, if you want

1017
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: to see them score, you know, go ahead and go out.

1018
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: If you want to see them get scored on, you know,

1019
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: that's also a great place to see. But they opened

1020
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: last year. They dropped thirty one at Ohio State on

1021
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: southern Utah, thirty five at Nevada, and then I mean

1022
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: they had thirty seven against Washington State, whose defense was

1023
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: much improved. They put forty one in Colorado. They broke

1024
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, internal Russian records at Arizona State on the road,

1025
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: and then they really just kind of ran out of

1026
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: gas um and so, uh, if they get some quarterback play,

1027
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: maybe they can get to the point where they compete

1028
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: to possibly qualify for a Bowl. But the North is

1029
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: so loaded that they're probably not gonna win a game

1030
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: against anybody in there of the division. So they're gonna

1031
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: have to sneak it against somebody else, Like they're gonna

1032
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: have to be Arizona on the road on November two,

1033
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: which could happen. But they I mean, they got Utah there,

1034
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: they go to U C. L A instead of playing

1035
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: U c. L A at home. I think that's going

1036
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: to be a problem for them. And then they finished

1037
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: the season at Washington State and at Oregon. I have

1038
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: them going three and nine. I'm looking at this schedule

1039
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 1: and it's very possible that they go to in tent again.

1040
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 1: And if they do, I know Jonathan Smith is super

1041
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: popular and I know the offensive scoring points. But did

1042
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: they go back and look for a no, no, no, no.

1043
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: I think that they're in with Jonathan Smith for at

1044
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: least three years. They're going to give him a chance.

1045
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: He's getting a bunch of transfers from other schools. You know,

1046
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: even even though that they are recruiting other players other teams,

1047
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: players like sending sending recruiting stuff to people in Hawaii.

1048
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: But you know, like this is the team that is.

1049
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be much improved from last year.

1050
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that their record is going to necessarily

1051
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: reflect because what they won two games last year, and

1052
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to end up in the

1053
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: same way. But they're not going to be but they're

1054
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: gonna be much improved. So they're gonna be much more competitive.

1055
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: But the speaking of competitive in terms of the Pact.

1056
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: Wealth South is going to be competitive, but not quite

1057
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: as talented and in terms of the teams aren't as

1058
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: good in the South as they are in the North,

1059
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: but there will be much more competition. Is where you

1060
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: and I have are are are? We are pretty close

1061
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: in the North. You and I were so radically different

1062
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: in our predictions of who do you have? Well, I

1063
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: have USC winning it. I have them going eight and

1064
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: four and winning it, and then I have U c

1065
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: l A going one and eleven and finishing sixth. So

1066
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: you tell me who you have within the South. What

1067
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: you have U c l A go at one and eleven.

1068
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: That is absurd. At first I was gonna say that

1069
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: you weren't that absurd for the uh that you weren't

1070
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: that absurd for the USC pick because they do have

1071
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: talent and I do think that they have motivation. Clay Helton,

1072
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: all of that, I do, so USC winning it is

1073
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: not unreasonable. However, U c l A. This year, they

1074
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: will beat Cincinnati, they will beat San Diego State, they

1075
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: are going to be they are going to be significantly

1076
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: more competitive against Oklahoma than they were last year. I

1077
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: think that this is a close close that this is

1078
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: a one score game going into the third quarter. Um, okay,

1079
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: uh they're got I mean they got at Washington State

1080
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: at Arizona, which they will win. Um they're gonna beat

1081
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: Oregon State. Uh. Yeah, they're gonna beat Colorado Like this

1082
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: is this is the I'm you see. L A will

1083
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: be in a bowl game first and foremost. They were

1084
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: three and nine last year. And here is what I know.

1085
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: Here is what I know, Ralph, I am going on

1086
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: record right now. I am picking U C. L A

1087
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: to win the South. That's amazing to me because here

1088
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: is the thing I know about Chip Kelly, about being

1089
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: around chip Kelly, seeing this man work. Last year, he

1090
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: tried to put in his offense with the guys that

1091
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: he had. He knew he didn't have the dudes. So

1092
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: what did he do middle of the season. Switched up

1093
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: his entire offense. He was in three tight end sets

1094
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: a lot of times, which you've never seen out of

1095
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: chip Kelly. Running the football, pounded it like old school

1096
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: running the football. Chip Kelly's gonna do what works, and

1097
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: he's got another year, another recruiting cycle, all of this stuff.

1098
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: He is going to come up with a magic trick

1099
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: like he did in Oregon when Oregon didn't have the

1100
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: same uh top ten classes like they're getting now. He's

1101
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: going to come up with a magic trick that is

1102
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna take a people a year or two to try

1103
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: to figure out, and it's gonna be too late, and

1104
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: then he's gonna get better recruits, and then it's gonna

1105
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: be too late. He's going to win the South this year.

1106
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you Dorrian Thompson, green Um Thompson Robinson is

1107
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: going to be better this year. His dad's gonna shut up.

1108
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: And when you look at when you look at their

1109
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: their team in general, right you're looking at their they

1110
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: have a top I would say an underrated running back

1111
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: in Joshua Kelly who transferred from What Davis and had

1112
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: a phenomenal year last year. There he's a true um

1113
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: what they have. Felton and Theo Howard are good at

1114
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: Why why was fever? Chase Coda did nothing last year,

1115
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: but he comes from good Stock, should be good good

1116
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: this year even though he played a decent amount. Their

1117
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: biggest question marks are going to be around their offensive line,

1118
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: whether uh Tagaloa, Murray, Alvez, Burton and Ryan can actually

1119
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: do something like we Yeah, well, good luck starting too fresh.

1120
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't. I'm just not a believer, man,

1121
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know that. You know, you could probably

1122
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: say that they may be got three of the top

1123
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: twenty players in the PACT twelve if you put Josh Kelly,

1124
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: Darnay Holmes, and Chris Barnes on that list. Um, But

1125
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean outside of that, I don't know. I honestly

1126
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: I THEO Howard's had four touchdowns last year. But you know,

1127
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: just the productions not really there. The experience isn't really there.

1128
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: This is the same team that started out oh and

1129
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: six last year, it really is. They're bringing back a

1130
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: lot of experience from that. And yeah, they put the

1131
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: they laid the wood on on Caw at Cow, And yeah,

1132
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: their last three weeks were actually pretty impressing at that

1133
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: I watched them. I watched them beat a USC team

1134
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: that had a Bowl on the line, and then they

1135
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: put forty two on Stanford, you know, and and Stanford's

1136
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: defense was pretty terrible at that time. But what we

1137
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: have to remember is while they were performing better on

1138
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, the defense stayed terrible.

1139
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: That is the worst if you if you substitute that

1140
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: Cow game and and you and I both know Cal

1141
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: had an issue at quarterback and throwing a young guy

1142
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: to the Wolves. And if you if you take that,

1143
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: if you just throw the cow game out, you know completely,

1144
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: and then you know then and you pick maybe the

1145
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: worst game that they had defensively, maybe that at Oklahoma

1146
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: or the last game again Stanford, and throw that out.

1147
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: You just are left with the ten games that are

1148
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: in the middle. That is a god awful year that

1149
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: they had in a conference that didn't really have too

1150
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: much separating the very best. Just like if you take

1151
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: Oregon's a horrific offensive play against Arizona last year off

1152
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: the table, Arizona's defense rivals them for how terrible they were.

1153
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: Yes and so and so so give me this. Let's

1154
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: say that something happens to Dorian Thompson Robinson, God forbid,

1155
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been great. He's going into his third year. Yeah,

1156
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: he showed some flashes, uh, but you know, Dorian Thompson

1157
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: Robinson hasn't been great. God forbid something that happens to him,

1158
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: and you're left with Austin Burton and this supporting cast.

1159
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: Could that team not go in twelve? Chip Kelly still

1160
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: their coach, they will win. They will they will win

1161
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: two games. Then chip Kelly cannot go over just like

1162
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: they remember it last year. They were like Chip Kelly

1163
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: and Scott Frost aren't gonna win a game this year. Yea, yeah, Okay, no,

1164
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 1: you have two good coaches. They'll figure it out out. Um. Yeah.

1165
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: And but my biggest issue is by the time it

1166
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: comes time for them to figure things out the way

1167
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: their schedule works out, because I think they beat Oregon State,

1168
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: but then they're at Stanford, they host Arizona State, who

1169
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: has beat them the last two times in going out

1170
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. Then they host Colorado and I'm

1171
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a believer in Colorado than

1172
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: I think most people. Then at Utah at USC, and

1173
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: then Cal's gonna want some revenge. And so the last

1174
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: half of that schedule doesn't really open up for them

1175
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: the way that it did last year with so many

1176
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: teams in so much disarray, the way that Stanford and

1177
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: USC were towards the end of the year. But you

1178
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: never know, maybe those teams have some injury too. But

1179
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: I just know this defense gave up thirty four point

1180
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: one points a game last year and four forty five

1181
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: yards a game, and that's and they had a positive

1182
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: turnover margin, and that that's still like happened. And the

1183
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: team that I have number two in the South is Utah,

1184
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: the team that the media picked to win the conference.

1185
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: I the problem with Utah is is that as good

1186
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: as their defense is, they are well coached. Kyle Whittingham

1187
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal coach. They are they're tough, they're mean,

1188
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: they're nasty, they're all those things. The problem is they

1189
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: run out of talent. I mean there. I mean like

1190
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: at some point in time you have to have dudes,

1191
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: and they don't have enough dudes. And it starts at

1192
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: with their quarterback, Tyler Huntley, who will be coming back

1193
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: off an injury. I know a lot of people, Oh

1194
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: Shelly is Shelly should play? No, Shelly is a poor

1195
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: man's Calal Tate, who I don't think it's that great.

1196
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: Of course, of course you like Jason Jason Shelley. You

1197
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: think Lil Tate is Michael Vicky. Oh yeah, so exactly. Yeah.

1198
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: I think Zack Zack Moss is gonna do this thing

1199
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: this year. He'll be back again. And uh, Shelley is

1200
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: a decent quarterback. He is your Darren Thomas type quarterback

1201
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: that was that Oregon. He is a serviceable guy, but

1202
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: he's not special. And that's where Utah is going to

1203
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: drop a couple of games. I think that they, um,

1204
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna come out. They're gonna beat b y U,

1205
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois and Idaho State. They're gonna lose to USC

1206
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna and they're going to the good

1207
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: news for them is that they escaped Oregon this year.

1208
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: They escaped Oregon and Stanford this year, so that lends

1209
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: itself to a you know, to an easier schedule. But

1210
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: they still gotta play at Washington so that's already two

1211
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: pack twelve bosses. They might, um, they might dump one

1212
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: to Washington State just because Washington State's offense is so

1213
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: tricky and you know, and then they might dump that

1214
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: game to UH to either U C. L A or Arizona,

1215
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: because as much as I don't think that catates a

1216
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: great passer, he is a phenomenal runner and he is

1217
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: a threat. And if and if the coaches at Arizona

1218
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: can if if they can get if Kevin Somelon can

1219
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: get him to buy into the fact that you know

1220
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: that you need to use your legs and not try

1221
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: to you know, like raise your NFL quarterbacks dot because

1222
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: it's not there. Then then they will perform better. And

1223
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: Utah melts and the heat. They got blown out. They

1224
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: got blown out at a s U last year against

1225
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: the team a s U that had like nine games

1226
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: separated by just one touchdown. So you know, they had

1227
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: no business with that that happening to him. I know,

1228
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: Hunt they got hurt or whatever, but but I mean,

1229
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: I feel like they have a really tough time playing

1230
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: in the sun and uh and so that it's possible,

1231
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: even though that's a really really late game in the season.

1232
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: But I have them having a a record than than USC,

1233
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: but I have their three losses and us USC is

1234
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: obviously gonna have a tough time UM and I have

1235
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: USC in the three spot. I think that this team

1236
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: is talented. I mean they're they're not short on talent.

1237
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that they liked their coaches, but in the

1238
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: past they hadn't been I don't think the players because

1239
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: remember USC was still getting top ten recruiting classes at

1240
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 1: that point. Though those those guys are juniors and seniors

1241
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: right now, and I don't think that they got coached

1242
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: up as well as they needed to to be phenomenal.

1243
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: Like when you get five star guys high four star

1244
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: guys and you coached them up. Of course some of

1245
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: them you missed on. They don't have the talent ability

1246
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: that you thought they had, But more of them should

1247
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: be turning out to be first round picks, second round picks,

1248
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, dominant conference players, you know, like first team

1249
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: Allpack twelve potentially now Tyler Vaughn's Amen Ross st Brown

1250
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: and uh and Michael Pittman are three of the best

1251
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: high school receivers I've ever seen, and they're all the

1252
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: same team together, right, And so I think having Graham

1253
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: Harrold as their offensive coordinator because I think J. T.

1254
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: Daniels definitely got more hate than he deserved for what

1255
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: he was able to do as a as a true freshman.

1256
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: But Graham Harrold is going to come in and say, like,

1257
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: why does why does J. T. Daniels have the ball

1258
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: for any longer than three seconds on any given snap.

1259
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: We're the most talent of anybody in this conference by

1260
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: a long shot on the offensive side of the ball.

1261
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: Get it for them as fast as possible and then

1262
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: you won't have to worry about the fact that they're

1263
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: going to have three sophomores on the offensive line. You

1264
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: can give those, uh, those offensive linemen time to sort

1265
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: of catch up. I mean they should be running some

1266
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: Nole Mazzoni bubble screen nonsense until everything. Wish was the

1267
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of this team, Dude, he would be feeding.

1268
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: I would say he feeds the meter. When he's got

1269
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: a good wide receiver, he will feed the meter. And

1270
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: US has the second best wide receiver corps in the

1271
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: entire country. The only team that has better is Alabama

1272
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: with um with rugs and with Yeah with rugs, Jerry

1273
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: Judy and DeVante Smith like yeah, this combination vans Pittman

1274
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: and I'm ross st Brown. What you don't get better

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01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: than that? So the fact that USC is not expected

1276
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: to win the conference is more telling about coaching than

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01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: it is anything else, because it's not like they don't

1278
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: have dudes. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about Clay's

1279
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: end game ability, and I definitely don't think that Clancy

1280
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 1: Pendergast As somebody who watched the Arizona Cardinals fire Clancy

1281
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: Pendergast the year after they lost the Super Bowl on

1282
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: on one after one play, you know, they still wanted

1283
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: to dump that guy, and I watched him bounce all around,

1284
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: and I he's just not He's not somebody to me

1285
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: that it can teach at the collegiate level. And he's

1286
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: definitely not maximizing the talent that they have there. And

1287
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: so hopefully some of the switches they made, because they

1288
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: switched out pretty much every other position coach um can

1289
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: can cause some things to click for guys like c. J.

1290
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Pollard and Greg Johnson. On that defense. They had so

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01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: many injuries last year though, I mean that everybody says,

1292
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, this defense is trash, but I don't think

1293
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: it would have been trash if you know, Connor Murphy

1294
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: didn't have to miss all but four games, and Greg

1295
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't out for the year, and Isaiah pol him

1296
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: out didn't sublixate his shoulder. You know, going into training camp,

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: I think that if all of those guys are available,

1298
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: then this is a team. You know that their total

1299
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: defense with seven so it's not as bad as everybody

1300
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: wanted to make it out to be. But it's definitely

1301
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: a top six total defense if they don't lose everybody

1302
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: right away to injury and so health is gonna be

1303
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: huge for them. Getting the ball out of J. T.

1304
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: Daniels hands as quickly as possible and in the hands

1305
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: of their talent is going to be huge for them.

1306
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: But they still have some really really tough outconference games,

1307
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: and I think that Notre Dame is gonna is going

1308
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: to continue that tradition of the recent tradition of of

1309
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: of beating um U s C. I do think they'll

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01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: They'll get I think No clips Stanford early though, and

1311
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: I think that will be big, big confidence booster for them.

1312
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: And I think my final thing on USC is I

1313
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: think that it's very telling that when you look at

1314
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: their defense, aside from j J to Fell like, you

1315
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: don't see anybody scary on their defense like you like

1316
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: you're you're not looking at their defense like oh oh

1317
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, we can't we can't throw it there,

1318
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: can't run that way which you used to have. And

1319
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: then uh, and I mean the name the names pop

1320
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: out to me, you know, Elijah Griffin and Greg Johnson especially,

1321
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: but they also pop out to me as guys who

1322
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: haven't shown you know, I haven't lived. So how will

1323
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: your Arizona schools do? Is the question? Because you got

1324
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: at Herm at where's replacing a new quarterback? He's got

1325
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: a good running back, annoyed Benjamin, who had a phenomenal year, like,

1326
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: where do these where does this team fit in his?

1327
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: Herm taking these boys in the right direction? I think

1328
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: that he is. Um. It's weird because you know, everybody

1329
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: came out and said that, you know, the higher was

1330
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: so terrible that we're going to take a team that's

1331
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: returning almost everybody and we're gonna say they're gonna finish

1332
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: last in the back to him South, which got a

1333
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: pretty big laugh from anybody who pays attention, because what

1334
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: you're saying is Herm would literally come in and destroy

1335
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: the team. Uh, And that that didn't happen. You know,

1336
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: they stayed competitive. He's still the old school football. When

1337
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: you when you have enough people get away from old

1338
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: school game plans, um, then that sort of reverses itself

1339
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: and becomes the new thing. Right, So, playing good defense

1340
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: and running the football isn't really a hallmark of a

1341
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: lot of the air raid stuff that's been going on

1342
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: in college football recently. And so when you have a

1343
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: team that comes in and tries to have a ball

1344
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: control offense, you know, allah Stanford all of a sudden,

1345
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: that's a thing that you that's just another thing that

1346
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: you weren't ready to game plan for. And so, you know,

1347
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: they had a lot of success. I think that there

1348
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: were coaching mistakes which led to them losing at San

1349
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: Diego State last year. They were competitive at Washington, which

1350
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: I think opened a lot of people's eyes, and then

1351
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: uh and then everything just sort of broke down at

1352
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: Colorado um with with Nikil Harry getting hurt um and

1353
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: uh and then you know, Colorado won that game and

1354
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: then didn't win another game after that, and then at

1355
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: Stanford it was just more mismanaged uh coaching stuff. And

1356
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: so if they can correct some of the in game

1357
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: stuff that they do, and they can get a little

1358
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: bit more production out of the quarterback UM position, then

1359
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: this is a team that could surprise some people and

1360
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: maybe even compete for a Pack twelve South title. I

1361
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: have them third. I have them going six and six.

1362
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: It's a pretty difficult schedule. Um. They got six senior

1363
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, which is huge. They've got you know, Benjamin

1364
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: um who you know who ran for two yards sixteen

1365
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year. Uh and and they got a couple

1366
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: of really really good receivers who have a ton of experience.

1367
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: So the offense is set outside of the quarterback position,

1368
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: and so a lot of people think Jaden Daniel's, a

1369
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: talented freshman, will take over. He's getting the keys to

1370
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: a brand new car. It's just up to him not

1371
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: to crash it. So offensively, I think they'll be fine. Defensively,

1372
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: their returning almost everybody except the D line h is

1373
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: very questionable. So if the D line can't get any pressure,

1374
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna waste a super good defense. I've got questions

1375
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: about the coaching staff's ability to make the in game

1376
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: adjustments necessary to win some of these big games based

1377
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: on what I saw last year, and I've got a

1378
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: lot of questions about the quarterback position and the defensive line.

1379
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: So would all of those things and said, I think

1380
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: they have a mediocre season, but they're competitive in every

1381
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: single game. I think it will probably will Herm Edwards

1382
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: and his coaching s Antonio Pierce, all these dudes ever

1383
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: be able to turn Arizona State into a a Pack

1384
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: twelve champion. Theoretically, I mean, they could just because of

1385
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: how volatile the Pac twelve is. But they're going to

1386
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: have to do something that nobody else has been able

1387
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: to do, which is to get some of the local

1388
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: talent to stay local. Um. You know, they didn't do

1389
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: it this year, and they've had to take they've taken

1390
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: to recruiting the East Coast, which was stufor disaster under

1391
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: Todd Graham. So we're back to that. Um. But having

1392
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis here, to imagine being a kid and having

1393
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: your dad run into Marvin Lewis and Antonio Pierson her

1394
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: med words in the Yeah, He's like, son, come come

1395
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: come here. They'll make you a man. They'll make your men. Yeah.

1396
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean that this is this is football. Dad had right,

1397
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: that's what this is like. If I had a chance

1398
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: for my like, I probably like tell my son to

1399
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: leave the room so just I can talk to Marvin

1400
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: Lewis and Herm Edwards and Antonio Pierce, so you know.

1401
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: And then they got Mike Berkovici back coaching quarterbacks after

1402
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: he took the probably the most famous hit in the

1403
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: history of the A. A FU he's got, he's got,

1404
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: he's got a big role just as a g A.

1405
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: Because they don't really have a quarterbacks coach um on staff.

1406
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: They have a wide receivers coach in Charlie Fisher, who

1407
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: used to be the head coach at Western Illinois and

1408
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: actually left his head coaching position after he signed his

1409
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: recruiting class to come be a wide receiver coach for

1410
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: her Edwards because he was a you know, he's a

1411
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 1: true believer in what her was doing. And then you

1412
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: got Roblykens, who was a wide receivers coach at cal

1413
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: who was an offensive coordinator at Kansas you know, uh,

1414
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: and then a wide receivers coach out at a s

1415
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: U and he got promoted into the job um sort

1416
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: of by accident, and so he's trying to lock that

1417
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: down and show that he's really gonna be able to

1418
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: to to captain this ship at a high level. So

1419
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: that will be really really interesting to see, um. But

1420
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: the biggest hurdle for them. You know, they're going to

1421
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: develop some of these players and that's gonna be fantastic,

1422
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: But next year, if they get a quarterback who's a star,

1423
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: the biggest problem for them next year is graduating six

1424
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: senior offensive linemen and having nobody with any experience behind them,

1425
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: so the timing might not necessarily work out. They're gonna

1426
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: have a good defense. They're gonna run the football this year,

1427
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: but next year they might not be able to run

1428
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: the football, So you have to adjust on the fly,

1429
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of whether or not this

1430
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: coaching staff can can do that. So, um, it's a

1431
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: big I don't know, a long winded I don't know

1432
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: for me, which moves me on to Arizona. You are

1433
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: the opposite you, I am exactly Yeah, I'm paying the rent.

1434
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm paying the rent. I can't even afford it. So

1435
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: I I like Khalil Tate. I do not like most

1436
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: of the rest of the roster, so complete opposite of

1437
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: Arizona State, where I love the roster. You have to

1438
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: like quarterbacco and running back. Ah yeah, J J. Taylor

1439
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: running back is is really really great. It'd be super

1440
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 1: cool to see what he can do in conjunction with

1441
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: a healthy little tape because I mean game planning for that,

1442
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, especially if they were to run any type

1443
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: of option that I know that he never wanted to

1444
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: run in the first place. Um, but if they run

1445
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: any type of option, that'd be really really tough to

1446
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: game plan for and it could hide some of the

1447
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: deficiencies that they have a receiver and on the offensive line. Um,

1448
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in that coaching staff. I'm not

1449
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: a believer in the in the depth at offensive line,

1450
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: defensive line, or the defensive backfield. I think they got

1451
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: some pretty good linebackers, but I'm not sure how much

1452
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: thought's gonna Aside from Colin Colin schooler, this is a

1453
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,440
Speaker 1: this is a bunch of two scars, two stars, scoobies,

1454
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: Scooby Scooby Right, Actually yeah, and and I don't and

1455
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: and it's been they're not necessarily people who are not

1456
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: scared of this team in terms of how they're actually

1457
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna do because last year they got drowned by Houston.

1458
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: They I mean they lost to Utah to I mean,

1459
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean you taught they lost well two b y

1460
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: u um Like, it just was not pretty. A lot

1461
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: of times it just was not pretty. Do you want

1462
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: to hear Do you want to hear something incredibly scary

1463
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: about this Arizona Wildcats team had a terrible year, right,

1464
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the consensus. And it wasn't that it was

1465
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: a terrible year on its face, It's that he was

1466
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: supposed to compete for the Heisman and he couldn't run.

1467
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: He didn't run at all. He had he was expected

1468
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: to have, Like yeah, because he did it like three

1469
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: times as a sophomore. He ran for more than had

1470
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: as a season total last year. So so with all

1471
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: that said, with the quarterback having a down year and

1472
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: with them not being able to run the ball the

1473
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: way they wanted to, they were first in the conference

1474
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: and rushing and third in passing. They were first in

1475
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 1: total offense. They were first in total offense in the conference.

1476
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: And so if Caliltate is right, this is a dangerous,

1477
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: dangerous offense. I mean if they were first last year

1478
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: at four seven yards a game and Cluel Tate was

1479
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: beat up the whole time and not getting along with

1480
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, you know, and they had to play

1481
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: against some tough defenses, Uh, you know, it could be

1482
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: really scary. It could be really, really really scary to

1483
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: see what they do. Um. But at the same time,

1484
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: in this defense, uh, Tony Fields and Colin Schooler are

1485
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: are fun to watch at linebacker. I think everybody else

1486
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: on this defense might have a hard time starting on

1487
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: any other team in the whole packed well outside of

1488
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: Oregon State. So I don't know, I don't know, man,

1489
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: they could easily go eight and four. They can turn

1490
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: around go four and eight. I have well, I totally

1491
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: agree with you there that they're going to be about

1492
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: them and I'd say they're eight and four if if

1493
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: I believe that that coaching staff believed in Claroltate at all,

1494
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. I don't think they like

1495
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: him at home. I don't. I don't think they like

1496
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: him either. I think that he's just the best bad

1497
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: option right now. Oh huh, yeah, I'm I'm I'm in

1498
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: love with a stripper that the manager of the club

1499
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: right exactly. Um. Oh, so the last team that we

1500
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: have talked about is Colorado. Um and yeah, it is

1501
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: just like that. This is a team that Mail Tucker's

1502
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: taken over. They started out five and old last year

1503
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: five and old. But they all I mean, they beat

1504
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: Colorado State, Nebraska, New Hampshire, u c l A, Arizona State,

1505
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: and everybody's like they're going to a bowl game. Slow down,

1506
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: slow down, no ball game, no sup for you. They

1507
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: ended up five and seven, and they were and by

1508
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: the end of the year they weren't even functional. I mean,

1509
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: they weren't even a functioning football team. By the time

1510
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: they hit November last year, Yeah, yeah, they were. They

1511
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: were maybe the worst team in the country in November.

1512
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: This is a team with a new head coach, going

1513
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: to start a an entirely new process and all of that.

1514
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: It is going to be interesting to to to see

1515
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: how they do. Oh yes, oh yeah. He can only

1516
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 1: do so much. He can only do so much. And

1517
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: last year they put so much weight on his shoulders

1518
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 1: had over a hundred and some white receiving yards a game.

1519
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Was rushing the ball, throwing the ball, catching the ball,

1520
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 1: returning kicks, return it punts to keep them competitive of

1521
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: and he and he got and he got hurt. Like

1522
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: there's only so many like hits that a player can

1523
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: take before something eventually happens, like like I mean, you know,

1524
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: like he's not Christian McCaffrey, who's a running back who's

1525
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: used to taking a billion hits in the game, or

1526
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: is able to fall down and all of that stuff. No,

1527
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: like when you put wide receivers in that positions, bad

1528
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: things happen. And Colorado was going to be They're they're

1529
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: short on talent, they are short on I mean, in

1530
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: terms of being competitive. Stephen Montes should be better. But

1531
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, but the offensive line, it's so young, dude.

1532
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: He experience they got, Yeah, they got two sophomores back

1533
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: on this line who were starters all year last year,

1534
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: and they're going to add a freshman to that mix

1535
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: like that is that's horrifying to think about. And I

1536
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: like Montez. I think he's built to take that meeting Dubby.

1537
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: He yeah, he's six yeah crash but no, No, no

1538
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: team in the history of football built around a wide

1539
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: receiver has ever been built to succeed in the long run.

1540
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: And there, I mean, they don't have a ton of

1541
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: skill at running back. You know, Philip Lindsay is not

1542
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: walking through that door, so you know, and then their

1543
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: defensive line is just I mean, I think they got

1544
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: one guy experience coming back now to finish up, to

1545
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: finish up to Pack twelve, apostle will since you have

1546
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: Washington went in the conference at eleven and one, playing

1547
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: USC in the Pack twelve championship, we know USC will

1548
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: be coming off of by going into that game because

1549
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: of the outrageous schedule. Who wins that game? Yeah, I

1550
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: think because it's uh, I think because it's still in

1551
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: northern California and for some reason, USC is allergic to

1552
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: play there. I think that you'll still you'll have Washington

1553
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: come out at twelve and one and still not have

1554
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: at the national championship. See I hold on hole. The

1555
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: way that that happens is if Oregon beats Oregon beats Auburn,

1556
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: then in eleven and one, Washington will have a chance

1557
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: to make it. I think that they will, that they

1558
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: will be that they will ultimately get left out build

1559
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: they'll be at number five. So that's what that's my

1560
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: thinging too, is that the only shot that the Pack

1561
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: twelve has at someone playing for a national championship is

1562
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: if it's Oregon that comes out and that includes a

1563
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: victory over a Washington team that didn't lose to anybody else. Boom.

1564
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, Ralph, I like it.

1565
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: I love it. And you guys are listening to the

1566
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: Pack twelve a fossils George Rice or Ralph amsteon you guys,

1567
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: make sure you guys share the podcast with everybody. Tell

1568
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: them all Pack twelve fans must unite. This is very important,

1569
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: isn't that right? Ralph? I I need to hear from

1570
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: some other people who love strippers out there I need

1571
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: to know where my Colettle Save fans are at, so

1572
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: definitely get get at me on Twitter and let me

1573
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: know I'm not alone, all right, peace out? We would

1574
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: get you guys next week