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Speaker 2: And how did the Phillies look right now?

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Speaker 1: Jim? They look pretty good. I mean tonight they're going

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Speaker 3: Listen on this show all the time we talk about

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Speaker 1: I think that's where all their focus should be right now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best cheese steaks and all the stadium in

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Speaker 1: My buddy Todd Zeleki, he's my podcasting partner on The

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Speaker 1: I think Colorado Rockies have a three series record. They

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Speaker 2: Right right, Well, Jim, this is awesome, great to have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my pleasure and thank you for having me