WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Analytics, Picks & More 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfield, 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:23.880 flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, broadcasting 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.240 live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:35.680 Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:42.080 Friday Friday, thank god, the Friday before Christmas. Gotta like that. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.519 And our little elf is not with us today. Christmas Looney, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:50.040 Christmas Looney, and Christmas Nate. What is Nate doing? Nate 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:54.360 has a has an engagement. We have about forty five 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.400 guests from American Airlines, American Airlines employees in the building, 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.200 and they went on a tour and then they went 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.680 to Ford Center and some of the practice suites over 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.319 there and got to watch practice and got to eat lunch, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.760 and then got to hang out with Nate for a 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.319 couple hours. So he's over there entertaining and talking football 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:21.319 and answering questions and yeah, just hanging out and sold 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.720 us out today, brought us sold us out today. He 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.319 had big plans, but you're stuck with me and Kurt. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:33.400 But hearing about probably twenty minutes ish. Ten minutes, Yeah, 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.920 we're ten minutes. We're gonna have Tom Robinson on. We 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.119 don't really know what his title is, but we do 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:45.479 know I like Douglas's title for him. What was that, Douglas? Hey, hey, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.640 Mick Wizard, I know we don't have anybody today, come 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:55.320 on here if you want. Ye see, nobody wants to 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.120 hang out with us with MAT's not here. So Tom 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.280 will be in and a football analytics guy. And I'm 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.880 actually really interested because I know I've known Tom for 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.440 a long time. He actually started out I believe, over 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.440 in DCM and it whenever I was I think, I 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.200 think so, I think that's where I know him from. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.440 So he's been around for a while. And then he 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.360 now runs the whole analytics operation for the team, and 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.440 I'm interested to see like what they're able to track 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.480 and what they're doing with that information, and how are 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.960 they sharing it across the league or how all that 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.880 stuff works out. So it's pretty pretty top secret info, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.440 some of that stuff, I bet it is. I'm wondering 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:34.919 how much he's gonna be able to tell us. That's 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.040 gonna be really interesting. I feel kind of bad because 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.120 I've I've seen. I had never placed the name. I 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.840 don't know Tom very, I don't know him at all, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.720 so if he walks in here, you don't well see, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.160 I think I figured out. I've seen this guy walking 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.919 around who I didn't know who was, and I've heard 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.079 the name Tom, and I think I finally put the 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.600 name with the face and so um tall skinny guy. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.720 I actually walked by him yesterday and oh he was 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.600 with Chris and I looked at him. I think I 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.959 think that's Tom. But I'm looking forward to hearing the 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.720 story there. Yeah, so cool. So we will have him 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.200 here in a little bit. In the meantime, we need 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.679 your help because we have no poss we have no Nate. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.280 It's just me and Kurt and we're not that interesting. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.360 So we need your phone calls. So we already have 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:20.200 one phone caller already. Welcome to the show, good friend 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.840 of the show. By the way, Jay and Rhode, I yes, Hey, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.280 what's the fellas. I am so glad that I got 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.920 through today because I wanted to wish you personally a 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.640 very merry Christmas, and I want to thank you for 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.480 all the love guys have shown me over the past 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.240 couple of years. Well, thank you, Jay, thank you for 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.440 calling in. We're glad you got through too, man, MS 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:50.040 pans you got big Christmas plans? Uh No, not really 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.840 eat me either, Jay. I'm just gonna sit on my 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.520 couch and play video games all day. I'm gonna order 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.960 I'm gonna order a big pizza the night before, eat 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:00.880 half of it, and save half of it for Christmas 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.200 Day because nothing's open. Yeah, you know, I accuse my 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.160 friends very carefully, and you know, you know, I have 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.440 a small family, so you know, I told my mother, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.840 you know, yeah, yeah, go go with your friends. You know, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.200 I have big plans. She doesn't listen to the show. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.039 She doesn't even know how to use Twitter, so it 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.560 doesn't matter. She won't hear this. You know. Yeah, my 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.880 everything's pool don't worry about it, you know. Yeah, you know, 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.880 keep a brave face. But you know what, guys, everything's 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.040 gonna be pooled this week. Last week, I'm gonna be honest, 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.919 I didn't even try to get through last week because 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.239 I don't know, I just had a bad feeling about 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.960 the game. I didn't have a good gut feeling, you know. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.159 But this week I have a good gut feeling We're 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.160 gonna take care of business this week. We're gonna win 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.960 the divisions because I noticed details. And at the end 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.479 of that game last week, what I noticed is when 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.560 we lost and the player started shaking hands, there was 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.720 no smiling. Everybody looked like they were ready to kill somebody. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.880 Everybody was mad. Okay, as opposed to other teams they 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:11.440 lose a game. Yeah, yeah, they're all smiling this, that 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.600 and the other. You know, you know how they do 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:19.320 up with powboys. Unless I miss something, they weren't smiling. Okay. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.120 I like that DeMarcus Lawrence's quote. They got hit in 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.320 the mouth, they're ready to hit the opponent in the mouth. Now, Well, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.000 that's what you know. That's what toughness is. Toughness is 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.480 not defined by how much of a beating you can 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.640 this show. Toughness is defined by how much of a 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.679 beating you can take and if you can bounce back 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.520 up off the mat when it happens, whether the ball 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.719 or life. Okay, we're gonna take care of business this week. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.120 I have my good gut feeling. I just know that 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.880 it's coming. And there's also a very special girl coming 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.000 to the scheme. Her name is Lowa. You know who 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.360 Loa is. We do not, of course you don't. It's 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:06.440 a rhetorical question. Lola is the law of averages? Now, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.760 unless I miss my guess, we haven't scored on defense 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:16.560 since last year at Washington. Okay, we are so overdue. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.240 How you know our defense has been strong? How we 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.120 have not gotten the ball that's been tipped and we've 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.039 run it into the end zone, or how a fumble 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.960 just hasn't come our way at the opponent's twenty and 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.280 we walk in that. You know that that will happen 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.560 this week. I mean, because dance is good for those 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.880 and the guys are all business and you know Dak, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.440 you know, we're all you know, he's a guy with 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.640 a lot of fortitude, you know. And last week the 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.599 game and just it just it's just there's no such 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.479 thing as a good loss. But it does help you 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.720 to refocus, especially if he played the game. You know, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.520 you do get a little copy because it's happened to me, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.160 you know. But everything's gonna be fine this week. Guys. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:07.880 I don't want to take up all your time. You 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.480 already did, Jay, he took up We gotta go. The 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.760 podcast is over all, right, I love you guys, brother 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.920 Christmas love you too. Man. Thanks for calling. We win 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.760 this week. I will call up next week and sing 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.680 amri the right way? All right, all right, I hold 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.120 you to it. All right, Jay, have a good one. 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.880 You worried about this game, Kirk? You know, I guess 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.360 it shouldn't be because seven and a half point spread? 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.960 Is it? Seven? I thought it was higher than that. Um. Yeah, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.760 they're big favorites. And that bothers me, does it? Because 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.800 I think it's gonna be a closer game than than 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.840 seven and a half. Yeah, that Tampa's defense is just 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.680 so bad. I guess my worry is if if we 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.160 have to outscore them, you know, if we if we 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.520 have to put up thirty points too, right, you know, 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.240 can you keep up? They get it if they get 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.720 a lead on you, you know, they they're I think 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.840 we talked yesterday about it. They put up a lot 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:06.920 of points even in losses, but they haven't the last 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.640 two games. They faced New Orleans and Baltimore. Both teams 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.840 have pretty good defenses, and they didn't do much against them. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.120 So hopefully that continues and our defense steps up and 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.239 takes care of business. Yeah, Chris and Connecticut. What's up, buddy, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.000 Hey guys, how you doing great? How are you? I'm 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.920 doing pretty well. I want to wish you guys are 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.080 very merry Christmas, Happy New Years and all that kind 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.280 of jazz. Yes, Sarah, you too. Hey. Um, I guess 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:32.839 I was first of all I wanted to say the 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.760 other day I called in and made the comment about 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.200 it's not rocket science, and I didn't want to implay 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.640 it's not a complicated game. I just meant, not rocket science. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.559 You should use zeke. That's it. No point, hey, point 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.880 was well taken. Nate talked about that for two days 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.040 after that. He was like, man, that dude just just simple, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.080 just like simplified everything. It's not that hard. So hey, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.720 give it a try, right, that's right, that's right. Hey, Hey, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.200 I guess my question I had a question for you guys. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.839 I mean, um, you know, my worst nightmare, even before 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.280 the Indidiapolis scheme, is thinking that we're gonna have to 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.760 go into New York or they're gonna have to go 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.640 into New York and win it to get in. And uh, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.880 I'm a little nervous about the defensive performance, you know, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.760 starting in the fourth quarter against Philly, it's been five 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.000 really bad quarters. Do you think there's something there or 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.280 or or was just a complete they were due to 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.880 just due to have a bad game. I personally think 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.679 they just got the crap beat out of them. They 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.439 got they got overmatched. There's it's just like boxing or UFC. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.559 Sometimes you just sometimes it's a bad matchup for your team. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.640 And I think Indie was just a terrible matchup, especially 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.920 with the injuries they have. They I think they just 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.720 got it was just a butt kicking. Yeah, I don't. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.720 I think the intensity just wasn't quite there. They were 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.120 riding that five game streak and Indie's backs against the wall. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.559 They've got to win and get in for sure, we 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.200 kind of had a game to play with. And yeah, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.240 I just don't think they matched intensity, especially, I mean 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.719 the first half was closed, but when Colts came out 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.760 and over right down the field to open the third up, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.840 it was done. Yeah. And you know, if I know 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.840 anything about who is this? Who is this? Rod Marinelli? 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.400 Who is this? This is Taylor Stern. Taylor Stern, Welcome 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.080 to the show. Welcome, How are you guys for having me? 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.480 Douglas No applause for Taylor. Wow, I was. I was 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.959 looking for the tay what drop and I couldn't find. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:25.880 But what the name Chris from Connecticut, Chris from Connecticut. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.360 I will let you know that Rod Marinelli is one 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.640 of the most intense guys on the planet Earth. You know, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.840 non bet and I know that he's probably getting the 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.840 Marinelli Madness video like you have never because they're playing 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.640 Tampa Bay this weekend. That is the team that he 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.880 won the Super Bowl. That is his squad that he 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.040 knows he has to win again. Tell everyone and Chris 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.640 what what marion Ellie Madness is For those that don't know, Yes, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:57.280 Marionelli Madness is a video feature that he shows to 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:02.079 the team, the defensive guys on Saturday nights before the game. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:10.840 It is graphic, it's insane, it's insane, wild crazy, probably 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:17.400 against Peter standards. And yeah, national geographic footage, yeah, it's right, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.800 really horrid national geographic footage with Pete with with player 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.400 human heads on animals and like things like that. Very 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.040 Grifins nickname started from that used to have people like 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.280 he would literally ask for highlights of orphans digging up ditches. Yeah, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.960 that was and it's and it's it fires the players up. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.400 They love it. It's it's awesome, and he really puts 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.280 time and energy into it. Works with one of our 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.480 video editors here to like give feedback and do different things. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.839 So it's it's pretty awesome. One time I watched it 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.040 with him too, and you'd think that normal people would 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.079 be laughing and kind of like thinking like, oh, this 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.360 is crazy. He gets so intense into it. He's like 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.520 and this is you know, I'm looking at my guy. Um. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.000 I don't want to say Antoine Wood's real nick name 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.040 on here, but yeah, yeah, he's very similar to Nick Hayden's. Yes, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.760 if you remember a few years ago. Yeah, So so 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.920 there you go, Chris, I think he's here. I'm ready. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.040 Thanks for Thanks for that. You're making me feel a 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.920 little bit better. Their Taylor, do you what do you 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.160 think is gonna happen Sunday? We're winning? Uh? You know, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.920 I'm really nervous for some reason about this game. I 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.360 don't you know, I really don't know. I can't figure 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.200 this team out for the life of me. Yeah. Well, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.160 I'm really nervous that they're gonna have to go and 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.920 Washington to New York. I do not want that to happen. Man, 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.240 that is not a good scenario. So thank you man. Yeah, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.240 us too, Thanks Chris. Alright, man, have a good holiday. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.000 Marionelli had a quote yesterday saying that how do you 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.240 fix this? You practice with the same intensity bring to 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.760 the game. I wondered if I haven't been out to practice, 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.760 but I wondered if they Well, I heard that pads. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.960 I heard last week they had like a great practice 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:59.199 week and that. But then I know, but then sometimes 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.280 like that will affect you in the game because you'll 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.480 be a little bit overconfident instead of the feeling of 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.080 like I need to really come out and bring it 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.079 my best, where you're like, god, I've been crushing it 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.360 this week. If you watch the Amazon All or Nothing 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.920 the week before the Atlanta game, the old line's just 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.760 killing it in practice. They're just slaying it. I know 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.720 we've got Tom coming on here, but yeah, sometimes that 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.920 doesn't Are you sticking around or you gotta run? I 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.960 can stick I can hang around, hang around with Tom. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.960 Let's take a quick break and when we come back. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:37.360 We've got Tom Robins. What's your title exactly? Tom, Director 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:42.080 of Football Research. We just called you sports football analytics guys. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.480 What we did Analytics Wizard, Analytics Wizard. All right, we 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.800 will be right back and we'll have Tom Robinson on 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.240 the show and hang with the boys. 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We'll just keep 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.640 it simple. Speaking of getting that bread, tom Welcome to 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:57.640 the show man, Hollo. There's our all right, all right, 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.840 So give us a little bit of background. You've been around, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.920 how you've been with the organization. So I've been with 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:07.840 the Cowboys dating back to two thousand and I think 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.760 tellousand nine. Okay, so you've been around a while. Yeah. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.800 So I came on board around the time that m 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.080 AT and T Stadium it is under construction, okay, And 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.200 initially worked with the team as a consultant and worked 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.320 on a number of projects related to the to the 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.080 opening of the stadium, and then kind of came came 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.440 on board full time about m after a year into 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.080 the stadium being open, okay, and then kind of moved 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.320 into my current role on the football side. I think 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.399 this is my fifth season. How did you go from it? 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.960 Sounded like you were Wait, let's preface the whole conversation. First. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:46.080 We we don't really know what Tom does. We know 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.800 what he does, but we don't really know how in depth. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.000 So we're going to ask him a bunch of questions 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:55.400 that we probably shouldn't ask. Yeah, we are, and he's 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.400 gonna tell us, Hey, no, I can't answer that, or 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.440 I'm not comfortable answering that, or I'm not telling you. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.879 So Tom, you just you keep us at arms linked 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.160 where you need to. Don't feel bad about telling us 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.120 you can't answer before we ask those I'll just say 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.080 my first impression of Tom where I first felt like, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.359 you know, I was like, who is this mystery man? 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.040 Is really a training camp because you know, you guys 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.639 have both been out there. You go to training he 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.919 sits at his little table and it's like it's a 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.840 special table if you would, because there's no seats or 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.000 anything around the end zones of training camp fields. And 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.520 Tom's got the setup. He's got the laptop of the 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.879 little tower. Yeah, you know that something important is Happenings 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.680 are really green today, Thank you Shannon. They really, they're 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.719 like popping out of your m Thank you Christmas. Eve. 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.840 What a nice boss he is. That's when I was like, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.960 who is Tom? You know what I'm talking about? It's 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.040 like something is happening there. Well never he looks really important. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.680 This guy matters. Yes, all right, Kurt, sorry to stop 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.320 you down. Well what was your question? I actually feel 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.479 bad too, because I've seen Tom around everywhere. I've never 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.520 actually really met him. I've heard the name, I've seen him. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.080 I never this first time I've had a chance to 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:08.800 kind of put the name with the face. Kurt, this 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:16.240 is Tom. This is Kurt. Apologize for not introducing myself. Look, 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:25.160 ye started to come down here with us again, get 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.480 your headset on there. Have you met Tom before? This 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.920 is Tom, Tom, this is me. We got one guy 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.520 in here him. So how did you get sound like 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.040 you're basically an it guy? How did you transition into 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.240 becoming sort of this football analytics really in depth kind 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.840 of stuff for the for the football department. Sure. Yeah. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.520 So my my background kind of both educationally and professionally 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.080 has always been data in analytics. And so I worked 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.760 for a number of years as a consultant um kind 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.919 of working with you know, larger companies Fortune five hundred 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:02.400 and whatnot on business intelligence, analyt kind of data warehousing. Um, 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.040 excuse me, Uh so, missus Jones not a Fortune five 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:12.439 hundred company. He's he's pretty ahead of them. I'm sorry, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.959 he's at Fortune five hundred companies, that Fortune five hundred people. Okay, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.760 oh yeah, yeah, for real, give me someone that. Yeah. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.760 And so, you know, I got an opportunity to, I guess, 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.640 work with data see a lot of different business models, 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.680 and you know, I always had been fascinated by sports 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:35.240 and analytics, and you know, passionate football fan wanted to 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.400 kind of marry the two together and coming on board 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.800 with the Cowboys. I felt like I very fortunate to 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.840 come on board at a good time because football analytics 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.479 is something that's just starting to take off, and so 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.920 it wasn't like there's this you know, big, kind of talented, 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:57.040 experienced workforce out there that has all this knowledge that 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.520 that you can draw from. So kind of jumped on 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.640 an opportun and indeed to kind of move over to football, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.560 kind of work on analytics, dive deep into the data 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.200 and kind of have been enjoying it ever since. Is 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.879 it hard to I mean football is kind of a 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.880 very old school like baseball. Is it hard to convince 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.960 people to pay attention to these new stats? Football? People 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.639 probably think math is magic black magic, yes, oh speaking 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:26.720 of me, But anyway, yeah, I think as as I've 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.960 gone through the years, it every year it becomes easier 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.439 and easier. I think, you know, are I feel very 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.919 lucky that, you know, I work for a ownership team 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.760 and a head coach that that really kind of seek 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.240 knowledge and kind of want to see what the numbers 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.040 are telling us about decisions that we're making, you know, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:51.600 be that um personnel decisions. You know, who were who 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.880 were kind of pursuing in the draft, you know kind 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.159 of what we're doing kind of you know, with game management, 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.359 what kind of what are some of the numbers that 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.880 you can tell that you're that you guys, you really 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.560 dive into UM. So I'll try to kind of stay 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.080 within the bounds of what I've what has already been 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.639 said publicly about what we're doing. But you know, one 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.760 thing that we do and a lot of other clubs 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.359 are doing, is you know, we closely monitor our player 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.919 workloads during practice, and so our goals in doing that 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.199 are what we kind of multiple goals. One is you know, 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:28.440 we want the UM you freshest, fastest, kind of most 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.719 athletic products that we can put on the field on Sundays. 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.199