WEBVTT - WORLD’S TOP OBGYN Dr. Aliabadi: The #1 Hormone Problem Affecting Millions of Women (And The 4 Changes That Can Reverse It)

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<v Speaker 1>I want to scream in this mic and say, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell women what they deserve to know. If you

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<v Speaker 1>take PCOS, seventy five percent of these women are not diagnosed.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take endometriosis, over ninety percent of these women

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<v Speaker 1>are not diagnosed. Wow, endometriosis with PCOS, they're the leading

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<v Speaker 1>cause of infertility on this planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everyone, welcome back to on Purpose, the place you

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<v Speaker 2>come to become happier, healthier, and more healed. Today's guest

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<v Speaker 2>is someone that I'm extremely excited to talk to because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a subject matter that so many of you have

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<v Speaker 2>been asking me about. If you have questions about PCOS,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode is for you. If you have any questions

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<v Speaker 2>about endometriosis, this episode is for you. And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>someone out there who has friends or family that are

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<v Speaker 2>struggling with fertility, this episode is for you. I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to the one and only Dr A, who is an

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<v Speaker 2>authority in the space, someone who has helped so many

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<v Speaker 2>people go through their fertility journey. Please, welcome to on Purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor A. Doctor. It's great to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay. I'm so excited. I'm so excited for you to

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<v Speaker 1>give me this mic and I'll tell you why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to be here. You know, I've always listened

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and you speak so amazingly to these women,

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<v Speaker 1>to your listeners, basically talking to them about calmness and

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<v Speaker 1>how to get to that calm, about mental health, about meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing I want the world to know is

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<v Speaker 1>that there are millions of women out there that cannot

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<v Speaker 1>get to this calm space. Not because they're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>hard enough, not because they're spiritually weak. They can't get

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<v Speaker 1>there because they have an underlying condition like PCOS and

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<v Speaker 1>endometriosis that affects their hormones, their inflammatory pathway, and their

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system. And that's why they can't find that calm.

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<v Speaker 1>I sit with women all day long. These are women

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<v Speaker 1>who've struggled for years with endemytriosis and PCOS, debilitating pain

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<v Speaker 1>that they can't even you know, stand up straight, and

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<v Speaker 1>just because no one ever believed them, no one, and

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<v Speaker 1>they dismiss their symptoms. You know, you have these thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year olds who are literally on the bathroom floor with

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<v Speaker 1>every period, thinking this is normal life and that's life

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<v Speaker 1>for them and they can't really complain about it. Or

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<v Speaker 1>they have women who are ashamed of their body, and

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the doctor and all they hear is

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<v Speaker 1>will just eat less, exercise more, but no one really

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<v Speaker 1>addresses the underlying condition. And I've done this for decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and I reached a point in my life that I

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<v Speaker 1>said enough, enough is enough enough dismissing women enough, normalizing

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<v Speaker 1>their pain, normalizing their symptoms, and telling them it's they're

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<v Speaker 1>in their head, they're crazy, they're anxious. It's none of that, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time to really start listening to these women

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<v Speaker 1>and dealing with these underlying conditions. And that's why. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>millions of women are affected by PCOSN and the metriosis,

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<v Speaker 1>and majority of them are never diagnosed. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to be here to take at least

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<v Speaker 1>this hour to bring some awareness to these two conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dive in, because, like I said, my audience really

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<v Speaker 2>wants the answer to these questions. I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>shed light on this topic. I really want people to

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<v Speaker 2>feel seen, heard and understood as they're navigating this. But

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<v Speaker 2>you've actually said that we're in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 2>fertility crisis. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you know, let's say you take one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>couples and you have them go try to get pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell them have sex three to four times a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back in a year. Fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>them on average get pregnant in the first six months,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of them are pregnant within a year, and

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent don't get pregnant. Well, in that ten percent category,

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<v Speaker 1>if you take male fertility out, majority of those patients

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<v Speaker 1>have PCOS and endometriosis. The problem is if you take PCOS,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent of these women are not diagnosed. If

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<v Speaker 1>you take endometriosis, I think over ninety percent of these

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<v Speaker 1>women are not diagnosed, so they fall under this unexplained

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<v Speaker 1>infertility because doctors are not diagnosing these underlying conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>What is PCOS? Define it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So PCOS is a chronic hormonal, metabolic, inflammatory, and neurological

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<v Speaker 1>condition that affects fifteen percent of women in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to countries like India, that number can

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<v Speaker 1>go north of twenty percent. The problem with it is

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<v Speaker 1>that seventy five percent of these women are never diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>and they go through life not getting a diagnosis. In

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<v Speaker 1>order to diagnose PCOS, it's very simple. You neque to

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<v Speaker 1>meet two out of the three. Criteria. Number one is

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<v Speaker 1>basically ovarian or ovulation dysfunction. These are women who have

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<v Speaker 1>irregular periods. They get their periods not every twenty eight days,

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<v Speaker 1>they get it like every thirty five days, thirty seven days,

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<v Speaker 1>or they get less than eight periods per year. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's criteria number one. Criteria number two is PCOS looking

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<v Speaker 1>over is on ultrasound, So PCOS is not Polycystic ovary

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome is not cyst To this day, doctors say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have assist on your ovary, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have PCOS. Polycystic ovary syndrome is a group of follericles.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a specific finding on ultrasound. These are ovaries that

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<v Speaker 1>are enlarged with at least twenty Foller coles and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a specific finding on ultrasound. Again, a lot of doctors

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to look for. So that's the second criteria.

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<v Speaker 1>And recently for this criteria they added high account or

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<v Speaker 1>high AMH to this criteria. Be for women who can

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<v Speaker 1>have access to ultrasound or they don't you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>their doctor's this ovarian morphology on ultrasound, so elevated account

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<v Speaker 1>also counts as this second criteria, and the third criteria

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<v Speaker 1>is elevated testosterone or androgen symptoms. What are these symptoms?

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<v Speaker 1>Facial hair, body hair, facial acne, body acne, oily skin,

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<v Speaker 1>male pattern, hair thinning, or hair loss. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have all of these symptoms, you have to have one.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the third criteria, and you need to

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<v Speaker 1>meet two out of these three criteria. PCOS patients, for

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<v Speaker 1>reasons I'm going to go into details, struggle with anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and depression. They have mood disorder, they're moody people. They

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<v Speaker 1>have really bad PMS. They usually have someone in their

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<v Speaker 1>family who's PCOS diabetic, overweight, insulin resistant. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them have an eating disorder or disordered eating, and they

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<v Speaker 1>end up in these eating disorder centers because their PCOS

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<v Speaker 1>is not being diagnosed. It's the leading cause, with endometriosis,

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<v Speaker 1>leading cause of infertility on this planet. Seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of these patients gain weight even though they're eating exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you and I are eating, exercising exactly the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but they cannot lose a pound. Twenty five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>them are lean, lean PCOS patients. Even these lean PCOS

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<v Speaker 1>patients have eating disorders. So imagine, take this young girl

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<v Speaker 1>who's gaining weight, is in high school, let's say, gaining weight, acne,

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<v Speaker 1>facial hair, can't lose her weight, She's moody, she's anxious,

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<v Speaker 1>she has really bad PMS, and she goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor and the doctor says, there's nothing wrong with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably eating too much.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait, you would know as early as then.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, teenagers, that's you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>always say. If you want, if you go knock on

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<v Speaker 1>the doors of these eating disorder centers, your PCOS patients

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<v Speaker 1>are sitting behind those doors.

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<v Speaker 2>So why is it not getting correctly diagnosed? If it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a big issue, it's affecting so many people, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many symptoms through which you can measure it,

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<v Speaker 2>why is it not diagnosed?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's multiple reasons. Number one, doctors don't

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<v Speaker 1>consider you know, they don't know enough about PCOS and

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<v Speaker 1>PCOS presents in different morphologies. Once we talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you understand why you don't have to have irregular period

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<v Speaker 1>to have PCOS. Some there's a morphology of PCOS patients

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<v Speaker 1>who don't have any elevated testosterone symptoms. They just have

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<v Speaker 1>the irregular period and the PCOS. So remember I said

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<v Speaker 1>two out of the three criteria. You have different combination

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<v Speaker 1>of these symptoms and different presentations of these patients. Some

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<v Speaker 1>are leans, some are overweight, some have irregular periods, some

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<v Speaker 1>have acnes, some have hair loss, some have facial hair

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<v Speaker 1>and body hair. They present differently, so it's very confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to doctors. That's why I'm here to tell you you

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<v Speaker 1>only need to meet two out of the three criteria.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you meet those criteria, then you look for

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<v Speaker 1>the anxiety and the depression and the eating disorder, and

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<v Speaker 1>the weight issues and the insulin resistance and the fertility issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and you put this picture together and you can your

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<v Speaker 1>PCOS patients. I always say, you don't need a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>to really diagnose you. If you listen to this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>from home, you can self diagnose. I'm giving you the

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<v Speaker 1>tools to diagnose yourself. But because PCOS has these underlying

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<v Speaker 1>pillars that affect their entire, their whole body. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just a fertility issue, it's not just the period issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a total body issue. It affects your mental health,

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<v Speaker 1>it affects your reproductive health. It affects you metabolically, it

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<v Speaker 1>affects your hormones. And until you address every single underlying

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<v Speaker 1>pillar of the driver of these symptoms, you can make

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<v Speaker 1>these patients feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>So if a woman is listening to this right now

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<v Speaker 2>and feel she has PCOS, what's the next thing she

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<v Speaker 2>should do?

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<v Speaker 1>Very good question. So the domino, imagine, the first domino

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<v Speaker 1>of this PCOS storm is insulin resistance. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand insulin resistance. What is it? Sulin resistance. When we

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<v Speaker 1>eat carbohydrates, bread, pati, pizza, chocolate, ice cream, our body

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<v Speaker 1>breaks it down into glucose. Glucose stimulates our pancreas to

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<v Speaker 1>release a hormone called insulin. The job of insulin is

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<v Speaker 1>it goes at a cellular level, opens up the receptors

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<v Speaker 1>on our cells. The receptors grab the sugar and put

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<v Speaker 1>it inside the cell where it turns into energy. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what's supposed to happen. But PCOS patients genetically have

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<v Speaker 1>insulin resistance, So when they eat carbohydrates and their body

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<v Speaker 1>releases insulin, their cells are insulin resistant. So these channels

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<v Speaker 1>don't open for the sugar to go into the cell

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<v Speaker 1>and turn into energy. So the sugar bounces in the

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<v Speaker 1>blood and pushes the insulin to go up. Insulin is

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<v Speaker 1>a fat storage hormone. It's an inflammatory hormone. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want your insulin to go up. So what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>this insulin goes up? Few things happen. Number One, insulin

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<v Speaker 1>tells your liver the cells are not taking up this

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<v Speaker 1>sugar to turn it into energy. Take this sugar and

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<v Speaker 1>store it as fat. The problem is the fat that

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<v Speaker 1>gets stored with insulin resistance is not the good old

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<v Speaker 1>fat under our skin. It's the visceral fat around our

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<v Speaker 1>organs liver and our inner abdominal organs. That's highly, highly inflammatory,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into it later. So one, the high

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<v Speaker 1>insulin tells your body, take this sugar and store it

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<v Speaker 1>into this inflammatory fat. One two, high insulin stimulates their

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<v Speaker 1>ovaries to secrete androgens. So, and this is the first domino.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because when the ovary starts secreting androgens, our menstrual

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<v Speaker 1>cycle completely goes out of whack. I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to tell you what a normal menstrual cycle

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<v Speaker 1>look like and what it looks like for these poor

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<v Speaker 1>PCOS patients. So, in a normal menstrual cycle, our brain,

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<v Speaker 1>our hypothalamus releases GnRH, which is a hormone that affects

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<v Speaker 1>the pituitary gland, an other gland in our brain that

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<v Speaker 1>releases two hormones FSH and LH. When this GnRH is

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<v Speaker 1>being released slowly, the pituitary gland releases a hormone called FSH.

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<v Speaker 1>FSH effect stimulates our ovaries, the follicles in the ovaries

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<v Speaker 1>to start growing for that cycle, and these follicles, as

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<v Speaker 1>they grow, they start releasing estrogen. The estrogen they release,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets the lining of the uterus ready for pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the job of the ovaries helping us get

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant every month. So these ovaries basically release these follicles

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<v Speaker 1>release these estrogens, and the estrogen stimulates the lining of

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<v Speaker 1>the uterus. While these estrogen is being released, it has

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<v Speaker 1>a negative feedback on our brain. When the estrogen levels

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<v Speaker 1>hit a very high level, it actually stimulates this GnRH

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<v Speaker 1>secretions from the hypothalamus to go faster. And when the

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<v Speaker 1>GnRH starts firing faster, the FSH slows down and the

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<v Speaker 1>LH surge comes. And LH is a hormone that is

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<v Speaker 1>a lutinizing hormone and it causes the ovulation, so it

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<v Speaker 1>pushes one follicle out, and that's when the egg gets released.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we're trying for pregnancy, the sperm comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>the embryo forms, and now the lining of the uterus

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<v Speaker 1>is nice and juicy, and the embryo implants and the

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<v Speaker 1>pregnancy happens. What happens with PCOS patients, remember the insulin resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>That first domino starts stimulating the THIKA cells in the

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<v Speaker 1>ovary to release androgens. When you start having androgens in

0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the ovary, it freezes these follicles and doesn't let them

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<v Speaker 1>grow normally, so then the estrogen starts becoming erratic and

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<v Speaker 1>you have and when your androgen levels go up, the

0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:53.199
<v Speaker 1>androgens stimulate the GnRH to go faster, and then the

0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:58.880
<v Speaker 1>LH starts going faster, and the LH constantly stimulates these

0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:03.240
<v Speaker 1>ovarian tissues, the THEKA cells to release more androgens. So

0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.959
<v Speaker 1>you start in PCOS patients, you start getting this environment

0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of high androgens and these irregular estrogen secretions that not

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<v Speaker 1>only block ovulation, block implantation, affects our causes irregular periods,

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<v Speaker 1>but it starts affecting our brain because the androgens affect

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<v Speaker 1>our mental health, and we can go over that later.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is what happens, and this is why seventy

0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to eighty percent of PCOS patients don't ovulate. Of the

0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty percent of them who ovulate, they ovulate sometimes

0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.120
<v Speaker 1>even the ones who have regular periods. They're regular periods.

0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not because necessarily they're ovulating. It's because they're getting

0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.480
<v Speaker 1>withdrawals from this estrogen. It gets very complicated. But the

0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:59.200
<v Speaker 1>human the women's hormonal system is so beautiful when you

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<v Speaker 1>really understand and it. It becomes very complicated with these

0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:09.160
<v Speaker 1>PCOS patients, and that is why it becomes a vicious cycle. Right, So,

0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the insulin resistance starts reproducing androgens in the ovary. The

0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.200
<v Speaker 1>androgens affect the brain to release more LH. The LAH

0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.760
<v Speaker 1>affects the ovaries to secrete more androgens out and this

0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:25.920
<v Speaker 1>becomes a vicious cycle that doesn't stop. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>first underlying condition is this insulin resistance. The second underlying

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<v Speaker 1>pillar is this androgen being it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything women can do about that insulin resistance?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they do. Let's focus on that one and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll move to the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So for this pillar of insulin resistance, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make patients insulin sensitive, right, So there are many

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<v Speaker 1>supplements that can make patients insulin sensitive. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know I have an OV

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<v Speaker 1>platform and I have a supplement. PCOS is actually one

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<v Speaker 1>of those conditions that supplements actually play a huge role

0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in it. Why because by making a you want to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce for this insulin resistance pillar A, you want to

0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 1>reduce the glucose in the blood. Right, So you tell

0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the patients decrease your carbohydrates. If you're eating carbohydrates, go

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<v Speaker 1>for a walk ten minutes twenty minutes after each meal.

0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:28.000
<v Speaker 1>When we walk, we actually wake up these insulin receptors

0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and they start grabbing sugar out of the blood. So

0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.360
<v Speaker 1>we lower the sugar so low carbsize.

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<v Speaker 2>By having a ten minute walk after each after.

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<v Speaker 1>Each meal, so eat less carbohydrate, walk ten twenty minutes

0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.600
<v Speaker 1>after each meal. Exercise makes a huge difference, obviously, in

0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.640
<v Speaker 1>addition to the walking after each meal. Then we go

0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to supplements. There are supplements like my OV supplement. These

0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.200
<v Speaker 1>supplements work at a cellular level to open up these

0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.160
<v Speaker 1>channels and pull the sugar in my ov supplement also

0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.400
<v Speaker 1>has one wild mulberry leaf in it, and what that

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.000
<v Speaker 1>does if you take it before your heaviest meal, If

0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you take the supplement before your heaviest meal, it actually

0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.120
<v Speaker 1>blocks the absorption of carbohydrate in that meal by forty percent.

0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.480
<v Speaker 1>So now you're decreasing the load of sugar you're also

0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and whatever gets absorbed, you're pushing it. You're opening these

0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.480
<v Speaker 1>channels and pushing it into this cell, so you're clearing

0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that sugar out of the blood. By doing that. What happens,

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.080
<v Speaker 1>your insulin goes down. When insulin goes down, your fat

0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:35.440
<v Speaker 1>storage goes down, your weight management becomes easier. When insulin

0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.000
<v Speaker 1>goes down, your ovaries are not secreting as much androgens.

0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Your androgens go down, androgens go down. What happens your

0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 1>ovulation becomes more regular, the inflammation goes down. So that's

0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.600
<v Speaker 1>how the supplements work. And the ov has a lot

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:55.159
<v Speaker 1>of anti inflammatory supplements. But there's prescription medication met forman.

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<v Speaker 1>What does metforman do. Metforman makes us insulin sensitive. Anything

0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that makes you insulin sensitive again lowers that insulin.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any side effects to either of this?

0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So the supplements don't have any side effects. Met Foreman

0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.760
<v Speaker 1>does have side effects, but patients get used to it.

0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>The most common side effect with met Foreman is nausea

0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:20.639
<v Speaker 1>or diarrhea, but most patients do really, really well. The

0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.640
<v Speaker 1>next thing patients can do are glp ones. I'm sure

0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you've heard of the ozempics and the wagovis and the urzeppetites.

0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.520
<v Speaker 1>So in twenty fourteen I started treating my PCOS patients

0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.080
<v Speaker 1>with GLP one, so almost twelve years ago, so none

0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.760
<v Speaker 1>of these medications are new. But back then I had

0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:42.520
<v Speaker 1>trulicity glp ones. Why do PCOS patients love GLP ones?

0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I started treating them, and one thing I realize is

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<v Speaker 1>not only they're losing a lot of weight, but glp

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:53.520
<v Speaker 1>ones regulates their insulin and makes them insulin sensitive. By

0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.840
<v Speaker 1>doing that, they that's why patients say, oh when I

0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.000
<v Speaker 1>take I don't know met foreman, or when I take oh,

0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:04.479
<v Speaker 1>or when I take. When I use these glp ones,

0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I get brain clarity, I get pregnant. My periods are

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 1>becoming more regular because at its core, you're fixing this

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>insulin resistance. So for this pillar, this underlying condition, I

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.560
<v Speaker 1>say low carbohydrate diet, walk ten to fifteen minutes after

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.480
<v Speaker 1>each meal, exercise cardio at least four times a week.

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I recommend the OV supplement. It works amazingly well. Take

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<v Speaker 1>ask your doctor for a met form in prescription. The

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.560
<v Speaker 1>minimum dose of met forman to affect insulin resistance is

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.480
<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred, so you want to start with seven hundred

0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.359
<v Speaker 1>and fifty at night. If you have no nausea or

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.680
<v Speaker 1>no diarrhea, you want to increase it to twice a day.

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Then if you have weight issues, if you have a

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 1>hard time losing weight, if your BMI is in the

0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:56.240
<v Speaker 1>obese category, or if you're overweight with high blood pressure

0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>or high cholesterol, then I recommend the GLP ones. You

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.400
<v Speaker 1>can do the ozempeg, wagov. They all work really really well.

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about the nutritional impact of being on

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.679
<v Speaker 2>gop one because the friends that I know that have

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 2>been taking it, they're not getting nutrients because they're not

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 2>eating as much anymore. And that obviously sounds like it

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>has terrible effects on the body. I not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to actually.

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Eat, you know, and I.

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Can use weight, but you're not eating.

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, But remember we're talking. I'm talking right now about

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.439
<v Speaker 1>my PCOS patients. I'm not talking about that, you know,

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.360
<v Speaker 1>perimenopausal woman or someone out there who wants to lose

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>ten pounds five pounds. Patients who are already underweight and

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.239
<v Speaker 1>they want to lose ten more pounds and you know

0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>they're not eating. This is four PCs, this is this

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.920
<v Speaker 1>is for pcos. I mean twenty fourteen I started using

0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:08.360
<v Speaker 1>these medications. It's a game long someone to conceive, So

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>it depends, it depends. So for someone who wants to

0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.920
<v Speaker 1>lose one hundred pounds, you know, they might have to

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>stay on it for two two and a half years.

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>And the reality of it is, you know, insulin resistance

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>metabolic health is not a one size fits all. Someone

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.640
<v Speaker 1>who loses one hundred hundred and fifty pounds with glp

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 1>ones is probably never going to get off of these mets,

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. But their patients, my PCOS patients who want

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.200
<v Speaker 1>who I don't know. They lose thirty pounds, forty pounds,

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:44.399
<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds on these glp ones. But what I do.

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I keep them on ov and met foreman after they

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>lose their weight. So if someone has insulin resistance, you

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.199
<v Speaker 1>give them glp ones and you stop it. What's going

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to happen? They shoot back up. Right, take a pcos patience.

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Her insulin resistance is not going away. You give her

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 1>GLP one, You address her insulin sensitivity, you regulate her insulin.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 1>She loses fifty pounds. You stop it. The patient comes

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>back three months later, she's like, doctor, I gain all

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of my weight back. Why because you did not address

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the underlying condition. So what I do with my patients

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>if you're starting on glp ones in about three four months,

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 1>when they get used to the GFP one, that's when

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I introduce the MET format. And right when I start

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>them on the GLP ones, I have them take the

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 1>OV supplement. So when I'm ready to stop the golp ones,

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they're already on the OV supplement, They're already on the

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 1>MET format. I'm addressing their inflammation, I'm addressing their insulin resistance.

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm decreasing the load of carbohydrate that's being absorbed in

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>their diet. And then I wean them off of the

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:56.360
<v Speaker 1>GLP one. You have to address the underlying disorder. If

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what's the second pillar?

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 1>So the second pill is the hormone pillar that I

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>was explaining. When the when the insulin resistant stimulates your

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>ovaries to secrete androgen. The androgen actually affects your GnRH secretion.

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>It makes it very rapid. And this rapid secretion of

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>GnRH causes a shift in the LH FSH, So the

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>FSH kind of stays down and the LH chronically stays up.

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>So instead of only going up mid cycle causing ovulation

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>all month, this LAH is firing. What does LH do

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It stimulates your ovaries to release androgens. So then it

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>becomes a vicious cycle. You have these androgens that block ovulation,

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and you have these androgens that are free floating in

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the system causing facial hair, body hair, irregular period acne

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>oily skin. And on top of that, these androgens are

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>affecting your brain, which we'll talk later. So this is

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the second pillar. And for this pillar, not only you

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>want to deal with the insulin resistance. This is when

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we give patients birth control pills, right, and birth control

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>pills help help regulate this vicious cycle. The third pillar,

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>which is extremely important and nobody talks about, is chronic inflammation.

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>These poor PCOS patients have chronic inflammation in their body.

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>This chronic inflammation, remember I told you with the insulin resistance.

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>The liver takes this sugar and turn it turns it

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>into a visceral fat. Visceral fat is highly inflammatory. Insulin

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 1>resistant increases this inflammation. PCOS patients are stressed out, they

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>have high cortisol. Cortisol increases inflammation. These follicles that I

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you freezing the ovaries and they're not ovulating, are

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>highly inflammatory. These PCOS patients have sleep disturbances. Sleep disturbance

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>causes increase in the inflammatory markers in our body. These

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>PCOS patients have got this BioC This increases this inflammation.

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>So they have so many reasons for this inflammation to

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>go up. As this inflammation goes up, it makes their

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>insulin resistance worse. Inflammation stimulates more androgen secretions from the ovaries,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>and inflammation again affects their mental health. So this again,

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this third pillar adds to the first two pillars, just

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>pushing androgens out and increasing the inflammatory.

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 2>What do you suggest for that third pillar?

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>The third pillar, you have to address insulin resistance, which

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>is the key form antioxidants. Anti inflammatory diet is very

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>very important. So there are lifestyle changing, lifestyle changes, exercise,

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, dealing with that visceral fat, blocking that visceral

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>fat lowering, your stress, exercising, sleeping, anti inflammatory diet, that lifestyle,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, not always. I read this somewhere that you

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>know your genetics load the gun, but your lifestyle pulls

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 1>the trigger. And that's exactly what happens with PCOS. If

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not sleeping, if you're stressed, if you have a

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:16.120
<v Speaker 1>poor diet, if you're not exercising, you're pulling that trigger

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and making all these symptoms so much worse. The last pillar,

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>which is your pillar, is the pillar is the neurologic

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>pillar of PCOS, which is huge. So with the first pillar,

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>with the second pillar, and with the third pillar, what

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>do we have unstable estrogen levels that fluctuate. We have

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>high androgens pumping in their blood every single day, and

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 1>we have high high inflammatory markers in a woman with

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a normal menstrual cycle, when the estrogen is normal, when

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the cortisol is leveled, when there's no insulin resistance, when

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the inflammation is down estrogen normal estrogen levels actually are

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>calming on the brain. Normal estrogen levels stimulate serotonin in

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>our brain, lower anxiety and depression. They regulate our dopaminy

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>in the brain, so we're more motivated. Basically, amygdala, which

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is the part of our brain where all the emotions

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>are stored. It's regulated and it calms our amygdala down. Estrogen,

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>so estrogen has a calming effect. Progesterone has the same

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 1>calming effect. It binds GABA receptors in the brain and

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 1>it calms it down. What happens with pcos there is

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 1>unstable estrogen, there's lack of progesterone, and the androgens are

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>going crazy. So if you think of our limbic system,

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure you talk about all the time, our

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>limbic system is our amygdala, are a hippocampus, and our hypothalamus.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>This is the emotional headquarter of our brain. So all

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the emotions are in these three areas of our brain.

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Estrogen and progesterone calms it down. But when estrogen is unstable,

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>when progesterone is low, and when androgens are going crazy,

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>serotonin levels go down. As serotonin levels go down, we

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>become anxious, depressed, irritable. The dopamine goes crazy, our motivation

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>goes down. We feel tired, fatigued, unmotivated. The amygdalah goes crazy,

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and becomes hyperactive. That's our fear center. We get anxious,

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>we get scared, we can't control our emotions. And as

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the inflammation goes up in our brain, what happens. We

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>start having brain fog. We feel like our brain is

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>not functioning, we feel like we're not sharp. So take

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a pcos patients all day long with unstable estrogen progesterone

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that's low, you have this androgens pumping up and this

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>inflammatory markers high up in their brain, making them feel

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>ankus and sad and depressed and irritable and brain fog

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of it. And what happens People tell them,

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a personality disorder. You're crazy. Go see a psychiatrist,

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. And on top of all this, with the inflammation,

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>with all these hormones changing in the brain, with insulin resistance,

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>they get food cravings, They binge eat. That's why they

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>have eating disorders. So I'm here to say that if

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting at home, if you have irregular peers, if

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>you're gaining weight, if you feel inflamed, if you have acne,

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>hair loss, facial hair, body hair, if you're anxious, if

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you're depressed, if you're not motivated, all of these could

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>be PCOS. It is probably PCOS. And until you deal

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>with these four pillars and address each one of them,

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't feel normal. So throwing a birth control pillar

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>at these patients that's why they don't feel better. And

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, to this day, I listen to podcasts when

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>even gynecologists, very well known gynecologists, show up, and when

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they're asked what is the treatment for PCOS? They say

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>birth control pill?

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>That's why I would they suggest that that is? What

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>would that do?

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>What's the hope to regulate the periods and help stimulate

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the sex hormone binding globulin that's low in the blood

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that causes elevations in the andandrogens. It works with their symptoms,

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It regulates their periods, their acne clears up, their facial hair,

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>body hair, hair loss gets better. But you're not addressing

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>their inflammation, you're not addressing the core insulin resistance, and

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you're not addressing this neurological effect that PCOS has these

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>poor patients. I mean my heart aches. That's why I

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>take time out of my office to come and sit

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>with you here on a busy day, because I want

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to scream. I want to scream in this mic and say, doctors,

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>healthcare providers, listen to your patients. But unfortunately, our healthcare

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>system is not built to listen to women. People still say.

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Doctors are still telling these patients, you don't have a

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>high testosterone in the blood, so you don't have PCOS.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>That's not true. You don't have irregular periods, you don't

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>have PCOS, that's not true. You don't have cysts on

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>your ovaries, so you don't have PCOS. But I want

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I come today to tell you, especially for women listening

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to your podcast with anxiety, with depression, with eating disorders,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>with a lack of motivation, with a hard time getting

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>themselves to this beautiful calm, that you can get yourself too.

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's because their body is on fire, their

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>brain is on fire, their hormones are raging, their androgens

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>are out of control, and their inflammation and inflammatory mark

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>are off the chart, and someone needs to go to

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>their rescue. Someone needs to start listening to that.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so hard to hear that so many people

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>have sadly been given the wrong advice and people are

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>struggling and suffering, and is there a checkup that you

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>can do to get diagnosed or is it just diagnosed

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.959
<v Speaker 2>based on symptoms? Like is there an actual way of

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>knowing and checking?

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for this question. So I because of years

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of doing this, I actually created a free calculator free

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>It's on ovovii dot com Go answer. I ask questions

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that I ask my patients in my office, and with

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a very smart scientist, I figured out an algorithm. Obviously

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I cannot diagnose online, but I can tell patients with

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>very high accuracy if they have the likelihood of having PCOS,

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and this calculator does that for them. So if they

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>go on ovii dot com answer these questions for free,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I can tell them whether or not they have pcos.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And if they have PCOS, I want them to listen

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to this podcast to you know, I created CMD just

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to give women this information because until you make them

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>become their own health advocate, they will get dismissed in

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the healthcare system. So by listening to these podcasts, they

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>become their own health advocate so they can fight further symptoms.

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>For when they go to that obgy and visit, they

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>are ready. They've taken they've listened to this podcast, they

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>already know they probably have pcos, they go take the

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>OV tests. They know, you know, based on the OV

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>tests whether or not they have the likelihood of having pcos.

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>And if they listen to my podcast, I literally give

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>them the bullet points. They can print it out, take

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it to the doctor, and become their own health advocate. Honestly,

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>until we have a bet our healthcare system and we

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>educate our doctors not to dismiss women, this is what

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>we have for now, making women become their own health advocate.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That's a real masterclass on pcos that I think

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 2>is going to help so many people figure it out quickly.

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>And I like those steps of being able to understand

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it whether you have it yourself, being able to do

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 2>the test, and then going to your doctor and being

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>able to list all the symptoms and have an educated

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>conversation seems like an important step absolutely.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, to this day, I get patients they're like,

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I listened to your podcast. I went to

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>my doctor and I said, I have insulin resistance. You

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>need to give me met forman And the doctor says, well,

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not diabetic. Met formulis for diabetes. Do you know

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying? But that's why these podcasts are so important.

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm trying to tell to your listener is,

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to this podcast. You don't need a doctor to

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>diagnose you. If you meet two of the three criteria

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that I listed at the beginning, you know you have PCOS. Right,

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>learn about it. Learn about all these pillars that I'm

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>telling you. I'm literally giving you the tools of what

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you can do at home with diet, with exercise, supplements,

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>with lifestyle changes to you know, help yourself, and then

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you can address all these things. You know, sometimes I

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>start my patients on the supplement and they come back

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, doctor, this month, my PMS symptoms were better,

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>but they can't figure out why. Why. Because when you

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>address that metabolic health issue at its core, the puzzle

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>falls into place, The inflammation falls into place, the brain

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>health falls into place, the periods, the hormones, everything starts working.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about endometriosis. My first question was around do

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>periods have to be painful? Should they be painful?

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 1>No? So painful periods are not normal? So what does

0:35:55.960 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that mean? It's okay to have cramps? You know, we

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>all have cramps. You take a couple of advils, it

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>gets better. It doesn't disrupt your life. You don't end

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>up in the emergency room. You're not in the urgent care.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>You're not calling your mom to pick you up from school.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>You're not on the bathroom floor vomiting from pain. That's normal.

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But if it starts disrupting your life, then it's not normal.

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>If I could print a T shirt that said painful

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>periods are not normal, I would do it because to

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>this day, unfortunately in our healthcare system, women are told

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that painful periods normal, that it's in their head, that

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>they're being dramatic. None of it is true. So if

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>moms are listening, if women who are listening are experiencing

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>severely painful period that disrupts their life. If they cannot

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>have sex, and when they have sex with deep penetration,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they're having pain. If they have recurrent bladder symptoms, they

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor, their urine culture is negative, but

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:05.399
<v Speaker 1>they keep having bladder symptoms. Burning with your nation. If

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 1>they have painful bowel movements, if they have chronic pelvic pain,

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>if they have chronic bloating and they chronically feel inflame,

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that's enemy triosis until proven otherwise, endometriosis with PCOS together,

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>they're the leading cause of infertility on this planet. Can

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you imagine, and majority of these women are not being diagnosed.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>So you find endometriosis for me.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>So endometriosis is a chronic inflammatory and neural immune condition

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that affects ten to twenty percent of women on the planet.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Close your eyes and think of these women, right, so

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>you know someone is the point, absolutely single one of us.

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Have someone right with enemytriosis. And basically endometriosis is when

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>tissues similar to the lightning of the uterus is outside

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.720
<v Speaker 1>of the uterus, around the tubes, ovaries, on the bladder,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>on the bough, on our diaphragm, and in a very

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in rare cases you can find it in the lungs,

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>in the brain. And what happens if you think of

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the menstrual cycle. Every month, our ovaries are trying to

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>get us pregnant, so they secrete estrogen to get the

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>lining of the uterus ready for pregnancy. And when we

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>don't get pregnant at the end of the month, the

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>lining comes out well. Once a month. When these ovaries

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 1>are secreting estrogen, these endometriosis implants also get stimulated, and

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>as they get stimulated, when we don't get pregnant and

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the lining breaks down, these guys also break down, but

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they break down and bleed outside of the uterus. Blood

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is an irritant and it causes inflammation, bloating, pain, scar

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>tissue adhesions. What's interesting about enemytriosis is there are so

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>many theories of why so many women have it right,

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and one of the main theories is that when when

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 1>we get our menstrual cycle, as we're bleeding, the blood

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's shedding, the lining that's breaking, some of those cells

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>come from the endometrial cavity into the tubes, out the

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>tubes and they implant into the pelvis. In a normal

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>immune system, our immune system attacks those cells and clear

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>it out. Patients with endometriosis, their immune system is not

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>functioning well, so when these cells retrograde, flow from the

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>uterine cavity out inside the tube and implant into the pelvis,

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>their immune system, instead of getting rid of these cells,

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>actually help these cells stick to the walls of the pelvis,

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 1>and once they stick there and there's inflammation around them,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it's literally like a horror movie. They start grabbing onto

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 1>vessels and they grow nerve fibers, and these nerve fibers

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 1>start causing these pain and depending on where this nerve

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>fiber is, it can cause different kind of pains. It

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>can cause bladder pain, bow movement pain, sciatic pain, back pain,

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>leg pain, pelvic pain. So but the worst part of

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>this Eventually, as these nerve fibers start firing and firing

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and firing, our central nervous system becomes sensitized. So what

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>happens is their brain starts basically cranking up the volume

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>on these pain fibers, so they start experiencing more and

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>more and more severe pain. So that's why it's not

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>only you know, a pelvic pain issue, a fertility issue,

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a pain issue, but it's a central nervous system issue.

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>And chronically, because it takes doctors nine to eleven years

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to diagnose these women, and because majority of these women

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>men go undiagnosed, this chronic pain, this chronic inflammation that

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>comes from these inflammatory tissue in the pelvis, starts affecting

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>their central nervous system. They start becoming anxious, brain fog depression,

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>their amygdala, their limbic system is literally on fire twenty

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>four to seven to a point that they become so

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>fearful and so anxious of these periods, and because doctors

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>are not addressing it, what do they do. They start

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>taking pain pills, They become addicted to these narcotics. They

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>start second guessing themselves because they keep going to the

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.720
<v Speaker 1>doctor saying, I have painful periods, I don't feel well,

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and the doctor says, there's nothing wrong with you, that

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it's in your head, that you're anxious, that you're crazy,

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that you probably need to see a psychist. Do you

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>understand what I'm telling you?

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's shocking and traumatic.

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why they have PTSD. That's why they end up

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>in therapy. That's why they end up getting ketymine treatment.

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>That's why they end up using MDMA psilocybin, because doctors

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:25.919
<v Speaker 1>are not addressing this and they literally feel crazy. Can

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I tell you on Fridays I operate, majority of the

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>patients I operate on are enemytriosis. I mean, I have

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>endo endo endo. It's a lineup of enemeytriosis patients. Will

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you believe me if I told you that every single

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>patient when I diagnose them in my clinic with endometriosis,

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 1>or when I wake them up from surgery and I

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>tell them the stage of their endometriosis. The first thing

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>they do, they cry and they say, I feel validated.

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>The problem with enemy triosis is the same doctors who

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>are dismissing these patients are telling these patients that the

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>only way to diagnose enemy triosis is surgery. That's an

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>old school way of thinking about enemytriosis. I'm here to

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>let your listeners know that endometriosis is a clinical diagnosis,

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.959
<v Speaker 1>and yes, the patient can self diagnose at home. If

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you have debilitating pain with your periods, that's disrupting your life.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>You're missing school, you're not going to work, you're changing

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>your social calendar. You plan your trips around your periods,

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that's endometriosis until proven otherwise. If you have painful uh

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>sex with deep penetration, if you can't have sex, that's

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>endometriosis until proven otherwise. If you have chronic inflammation, BOUD

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>movement with pain, your bladder pain, these are all telltale

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>signs of endemetriosis. And all we need to do is

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>our healthcare providers to start listening to these patients. You

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>need to listen for five minutes to diagnose endometriosis with

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>over ninety percent accuracy. Surgery is not to diagnose. Surgery

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is to treat only if hormonal suppression fails. Why endometriosis implants?

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>These tissues in the pelvis are highly inflammatory, and what

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they do. They're estrogen dependent, but they don't depend on

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the estrogen from the ovary. That inflammation actually stimulates this

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>enzyme aromatase in the tissue that starts producing estrogen. So

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they become self sufficient. They make their own estrogen, They

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.760
<v Speaker 1>cause their own inflammation, They have their own blood vessel,

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and they have their own nerve fibers that's constantly firing

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and until this central nervous system becomes sensitized. So what

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 1>happens to these implants. They love estrogen, so you don't

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>want to give it estrogen, and they become very progesterone resistant.

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So one of the ways to treat them hormonally is

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to either give them progesterone or take the estrogen away.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>How do you give these implants progesterone? Progesterone birth control pails,

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>progesterone IUDs, Kylina morena like letta, they're different forms of

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>progesterone IUDs work amazingly well for these patients. However, sometimes

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>patients with the progesterone IUDs are still having pain. Why

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>because these implants are progesterone resistant. So if you start

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>with a progesterone birth control progesterone IUD and you're still

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>having pain, you can actually take medications that are GnRH

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>agonists or antagonists. These are medications like or Lyssa my

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>femor that. What they do they actually take that estrogen away,

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and by taking that estrogen away, they calm down these

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 1>endometriosis implants. The problem with this group of medications are

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>because they take the estrogen away, they can cause hot flashes,

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>night sweats, mood changes, and these patients are already anxious

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and depressed, so sometimes they don't tolerate it well. But

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>if all fails, then you do laparoscopic surgery to resect endometriosis.

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem with laparoscopic surgery. I honestly can

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 1>sit here and tell you that less than one percent

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of GYNs can operate on endometriosis with advanced disease.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>And what comes as an advanced disease how long.

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>In deep infiltrated implants in vowel in bladder. You know,

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>endometriosis causes a lot of adhesions, so you have to

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to know to operate on that.

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.240
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying there's no cure, it's more hormonal balance.

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Hormonal balance and surgery makes a huge difference. It's still

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>gold standard to treat these patients, but because these patients

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>don't have access to surgeons who are familiar with endometriosis surgery,

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it's always best to start with hormonal suppression first. And

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>if they need surgery and they still having painful sex,

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and they still have experiencing pain with their periods, then

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I would recommend searching for an endometriosis surgeon.

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>How long does the hormonal suppression take like that at

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>least four months?

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 1>At least four months, Because your body is not a

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>light switch, you can't say on off, on off.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen success with people coming to you and

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>taking your advice? Are you seeing people cure and recover

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 2>and feel completely different or is it more that you're

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that people are just managing there's no cure.

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>But in my practice, it's extremely rare for me to

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>have a patient with chronic pain. I fix everyone. I

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>always start with hormonal suppression if that fails, or if

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>they're actively trying for pregnancy and they can't get pregnant,

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>then I do laparoscopic surgery. Here the points with laparoscopic

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 1>surgery A you need a laparoscopic surgeon who's done endometriosis surgery. B.

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, if you give hundred gynecologists hundred laparoscopes

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and say go operate, half of them will wake the

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>patient up and say, you didn't have nymetriosis.

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Wow, how's that PoCA?

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I know. I swear to God, I want to cry

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>when I talk about these things because I see these

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>patients in my office. Why Because endometriosis implants can be

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>glandular where they're purple. You know, there are these purple

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>spots in the pelvis. You have to look for them

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to find them. You can't quickly scan the pelvis and

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>say it's not there. Sometimes it takes me ten minutes

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to find them. They're tiny, but they're very inflammatory and painful,

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 1>so you have to be patient. You have to know

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:15.240
<v Speaker 1>what they look like. But there's a type of endometriosis

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that stromo endometriosis from the stroma of the connective tissue

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>around the gland. These when you look for them, don't

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>have that typical purple spot. They're just these fine white lines.

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, these stromo endometriosis implants are more inflammatory

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and more painful and have more debilitating pain. But ninety

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>percent of the time they get mis during laparoscope. So

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>these are patients that already people are telling them they're crazy.

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It's that painful periods are normal, that it's in their head.

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 1>They on average see ten doctors. Average age of diagnosis

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>is thirty two nine to eleven years. They wait to

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>finally for someone to say you might have endometriosis, and

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>then they take them to surgery, wake them up and

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>say you didn't have it.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Talk about gas lighting, it's crazy. Put yourself in that

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>girl's shoes. And to make the matters worse. In my opinion,

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>more than fifty percent of PCOS patients have endometriosis.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 2>So what's the cost of ignoring this? Like if someone's

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>listening right now and they've been kind of feeling all

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 2>this but you kind of just let it go, what's

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the cost every year of not diagnosing.

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>The most devastating part for endometriosis is fertility because endometriosis

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:41.240
<v Speaker 1>is a highly inflammatory condition and it destroys the account

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in quality. I set it on Huberman podcast that I

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>have a fourteen year old with an account of a

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>forty year old, and yes, I do check account in

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year old with debilitating pain. It's whenever. I'm

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not saying every single girl on this planet at fourteen

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>needs to know her account. But I think until doctors

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>start diagnosing endometriosis, we need to have a baseline account

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>at eighteen. I absolutely fight for that every single day.

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I every single day in my practice, I see someone

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in her twenties or thirties ready for pregnancy with an

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>account of zero because of years of pain, dismissed by

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the healthcare system. So no, I would so to answer

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>your question, fertility is the biggest price they pay. So

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>if you have painful, debilitating periods, absolutely check your account.

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a simple black test. It's called AMH. AMH tells

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>us about the ovarian reserve. A low AMH doesn't mean

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.959
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have a baby. A LOWIMH means

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 1>your reserve is down. Be careful. So if you can

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>afford eg freezing freeze early. That's why you know, I

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>wish egg freezing was free. I wish you know it

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't this expensive. I always say, when you're young and

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>your eggs are healthy and you want to freeze them,

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the money. When you're old and your

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 1>account is down and the qualities down, that's when you

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have money to freeze eggs. To the endometriosis patients, I say,

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 1>check your account absolutely, if your account is low and

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you can afford it, freeze eggs. If your account is low,

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>immediately do hormonal suppression and decrease the inflammation in the pelvis.

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>If you can find an endometriosis surgeon with debilitating pain,

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>excite those endometriosis implants. By doing that, you bring down

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the inflammation in the pelvis, specially patients with endometriomas. These

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.280
<v Speaker 1>are chocolate saysts in the ovary. Those are the ones

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>at most at the highest risk of losing other agccount

0:52:55.040 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and quality. So that's the biggest price they pay. Painful sex.

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 1>There's so many women who can have sex. Imagine these

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:07.879
<v Speaker 1>are young girls who either don't get married because they

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:11.399
<v Speaker 1>can't have a relationship because they can't have sex. So

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that's debilitating chronic pain causes severe anxiety and depression and

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:25.120
<v Speaker 1>lack of motivation. A lot of them unfortunately become addicted

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to these pain meds, so these are long term side

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>effects of it. So it affects their mental health, their

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:39.439
<v Speaker 1>nervous system, their inflammation in the body, their fertility. It's

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>just devastating. There's no words for it. I mean I

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>can sit here, you guys, and I mean I can

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>talk for another ten hours. I'm touching the tip of

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the iceberg. I'm traumatized from years of seeing these patients.

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, they come to my office, they cry.

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I cry them because I can't take it anymore.

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you're able today as we're talking to

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>give people the help that they need I've got. I

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you about how there's a lot of

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.719
<v Speaker 2>mixed information about birth control pills and then when you're

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 2>off them, whether they block you from conceiving. What's your

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 2>take on that.

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 1>So, first of all, see I got emotional talking about

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 1>these girls. It's my trauma. Literally, their trauma is my trauma. Anyways,

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I love birth control. So birth control pills for endemetriosis

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 1>patients is the difference of having children and no children

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>for some patients. Why so, because birth control pills, especially

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're on progesterone only birth control pills, what they

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>do they suppress these implants. Remember I talked about inflammation

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>destroying the egg, destroying the egg quality. So by putting

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>these patients on these progesterone birth control pills, what you're doing,

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing down the inflammation. You're hopefully suppressing these inflat

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:04.919
<v Speaker 1>aim endometriosis tissues outside of the uterus, and by doing that,

0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you're preserving some of their ovarian reserve. So that's number one.

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Number two. When you give these patients birth control pills

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and you can or progester on IUDs, what you're doing,

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you're helping their pain so they can start having sex,

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>they can start having relationships. So the answer to the

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 1>question of birth control pill is absolutely wrong. You know,

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of moms or grandmas who tell patients,

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:34.359
<v Speaker 1>don't take birth control pills, you're going to be infertile. No,

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be infertile if you're not taking birth

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>control pills. You want to be suppressed on these birth

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>control pills until you're ready to have children.

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 2>But then why do people struggle?

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Then?

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>When they do that.

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>So one thing to remember is there are many women

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.959
<v Speaker 1>who stay on birth control pills past seven years. There's

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a small percentage of women when they take birth control

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 1>pills that chronically suppresses their ovulations. When they stop it,

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>their ovarian reserve never recovers. So for that reason, it's

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:11.839
<v Speaker 1>important to you know, I always say, after seven years

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of suppression, make sure you're checking your account, make sure

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>you're checking that ovarian reserve, and if it's you know,

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>suppressed and you've been on birth control for so many years,

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>stop the birth control pill. Maybe go to a progesterone

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>IUDA at that point. I've seen this numerous times when

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 1>patients come and they're like, my ovarian reserve is really low.

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been on birth control pills, yes, And when you

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.880
<v Speaker 1>stop their birth control pills, their ovarian reserve recovers. So

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm such a big advocate of checking doing

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a pelvic ultrasound, which should be mandatory for every single

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>girl who's sexually active and goes for a well woman exam,

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>check a PUBLC ultrasound, check the foticular account, check their

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>ovarian reserve. If you can't just do a simple AMH

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>blood just to see what that reserve is, specially for

0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>endometriosis patients.

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 2>If someone can't afford to freeze their eggs right now, yes,

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:09.760
<v Speaker 2>what are there other options?

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Suppress? Suppress, suppress suppress, Put a progesteron our udea, take

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a progesterone birth control pill, take my femburi or alyssa,

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 1>go have laparoscopic surgery. But here's the problem with laparoscopic surgery.

0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you know how a patient once in my office

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 1>who came in, She's like, I'm here for my twelfth

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 1>laparoscopic surgery. Every year she checks herself in for a

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>laparoscopic surgery. That's madness.

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 2>You do not scar.

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>That's so scary and you do not need that. The

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>reason these patients keep having surgeries is because no one's

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>suppressing them. Imagine someone has colon cancer and you go

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in and you resect their colon cancer. Do you ever

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 1>tell them, Okay, sir, go home, I'll see you in

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 1>six months. No, they're gonna come back in six months

0:57:58.160 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 1>with cancer everywhere.

0:57:59.480 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 1>You give them chemo and demetriosis is not cancer. But

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what you need to do for these patients

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>when you do laparoscopic surgery, and first you want to

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 1>resect all the implants. Once you do that, you want

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to suppress immediately. In my case, almost every single patient

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I take to surgery, unless they're actively trying for pregnancy,

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I put a progester on IUD at the same time

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 1>because I want to freeze the pelvis the way I'm

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.320
<v Speaker 1>leaving it. And as soon as they start having pain again,

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 1>then in addition to surgery and the IUD, if they

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>have more pain after surgery, if they have advanced stage,

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I put them on these GnRH antagonists like or Alyssa

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and my fambri to just completely kill it. That's why

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 1>my patients it's very rare for me to operate for

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the second time on my patients unless they have advanced disease.

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 2>How much is all of this affecting other functions in

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the body, whether it's the microbiome in the god, whether

0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 2>it's oh.

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for asking that. In my opinion, ninety percent

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of endometriosis patients suffer from leaky gut. They have CIBO

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent. What's leaky gut? Basically, you know, they get

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 1>disruption in the lining of their gut, so harmful substances

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>start getting absorbed. As harmful substances get absorbed, what goes

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 1>up inflammation. When inflammation goes up, it becomes a vicious cycle. Right.

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They get brain fogged, they get bloated, they get tired,

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 1>they get insulin resistant if they have PCOS, and they

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>just feel terrible. And on top of that, they start

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:45.520
<v Speaker 1>gaining weight. So but I always say, and these are

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>patients who end up having colonoscopies, having endoscopies, have seeing

0:59:49.800 --> 0:59:53.840
<v Speaker 1>GI doctors, bouncing from doctor to doctor, and no one

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>stops to tell them, are your periods painful? And why

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>unless you treat eat the underlying condition, which is endometriosis,

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you cannot get rid of their the he goat. They

1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:10.720
<v Speaker 1>keep having these symptoms of bloating and fatigue and inflammation.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I do in my practice is, once I

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<v Speaker 1>operate on them and I suppress them with IUT, I

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<v Speaker 1>have them monitored their symptoms of bloating. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>come back in a month, in two months and they say, doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, my pain is so much better, which

1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is usually the case, but I'm still bloated when I eat,

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 1>then I treat their sebo. Do you understand, and that's

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:40.439
<v Speaker 1>how it works now. Patients with advanced disease, patients who

1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>go through years of pain and central sensitization of their

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:50.880
<v Speaker 1>nervous system being ignored. Sometimes when you operate, when you

1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:55.240
<v Speaker 1>suppress and you treat their sebow, they still have pain,

1:00:55.400 --> 1:01:00.920
<v Speaker 1>they're still anxious, they're still depressed because they're brain is

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:06.320
<v Speaker 1>rewired after all these years of pain. For those patients,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing you can do is use neural modulators like

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<v Speaker 1>medications like Effects or Symbalta, Gabba penton Lyrica, because once

1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you address their pathology, it takes sometimes time to rewire

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<v Speaker 1>that brain and calm their nervous system down. And you

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<v Speaker 1>tell them to listen to your calm by the way,

1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I listen to it every night. But do you understand, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that's helpful. Yeah, I'm glad I asked that

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm always yeah, I'm always intrigued as to the

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<v Speaker 2>side effects. And when you're trying to it fills up

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<v Speaker 2>with the body. Sometimes, especially with traditional medicine, you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to solve one thing and you negatively kick off something else,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's all these things happening back and forth that

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<v Speaker 2>people don't usually think about because doctors are just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to solve one thing. And we'll talk about IVF in

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<v Speaker 2>a second. But I know a friend who is going

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<v Speaker 2>through IDF, but then something that we taking to make

1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:04.120
<v Speaker 2>that more successful triggered their autoimmune and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>now you're dealing with that, and then that's effect to

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I'm always just in treatis to the correlation.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about that. That's so important. First of all, Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, every doctor is treating what they know

1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:20.120
<v Speaker 1>they're treating, right, a GI doctor is only treating the cebo.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, every GI doctor needs to know about

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<v Speaker 1>nimytriosis because enemeytriosis is causing this leaky guy. So if

1:02:27.760 --> 1:02:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you're missing animeytriosis, you can never treat your cebol patient

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<v Speaker 1>number one. So we have to start treating patients holistically.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a gynecologist. I check everything metabolically. Let's say, in

1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:43.920
<v Speaker 1>my PCOS patients, I check their A PO E, I

1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>checked their APO B, I checked their lipoprotein little A.

1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I checked their hemoglobin A one CEE. I check for

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<v Speaker 1>pre diabetes. And I'm a gynecologist. I screen for anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>I screen for depression, I check for fertility. I do

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<v Speaker 1>my part, and I do everybody else's part too, because

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<v Speaker 1>because doctors are not having this holistic approach to patient.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's extremely, extremely important. And the second thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about. You're absolutely right. Let's take endometriosis.

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<v Speaker 1>In endometriosis, your own immune system is attacking your own tissue, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a form of autoimmune. When you have

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<v Speaker 1>one autoimmune condition, you have a thirty percent chance of

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<v Speaker 1>having another autoimmune condition. So in my practice, if I

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<v Speaker 1>see someone with endometriosis, I immediately think to myself, am

1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I missing lupus? Am I missing antiphospholipid syndrome, am I

1:03:41.080 --> 1:03:45.160
<v Speaker 1>missing chogrins in them? Am I missing psoriasis? And I

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<v Speaker 1>start asking questions and believe it or not, when they

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<v Speaker 1>start trying for pregnancy, if they have any other symptoms,

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<v Speaker 1>if they complain of a little bit of a draining pain,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a mailer lash, any symptom of

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of autoimmune disorder, I do a full autoimmune

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<v Speaker 1>lab on them. So this friend of yours who's in

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<v Speaker 1>IVF right, I'm assuming this because I see this every

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<v Speaker 1>single day, and I've done it for decades. She might

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<v Speaker 1>have an endometriosis that was undiagnosed, right, So what happens

1:04:22.000 --> 1:04:25.800
<v Speaker 1>during IVF treatment they blast her with estrogen. When they

1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:29.480
<v Speaker 1>blast her with estrogen, they stimulate her endometriosis. So the

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<v Speaker 1>pain sometimes gets really hard for these patients during IVF.

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<v Speaker 1>But because they have other they're at risk of having

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<v Speaker 1>other autoimmune disorders. The IVF did not cause the autoimmune

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<v Speaker 1>The IVF pushed it out, just like pregnancy pushes it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we know that endometriosis is in autoimmune condition,

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<v Speaker 1>a diagnose it correctly, don't dismiss these patients. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you diagnose it, look for other autoimmune disorders. You will

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<v Speaker 1>not be surprised with patients like got it here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's the point, right, Look, I appreciate that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you said that, Hey, we're going to look at everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and that makes sense because the body's so connected. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes no sense to be like, we're going to treat

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<v Speaker 2>this in a silo and hope it doesn't affect anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>when of course it's going to affect your entire body

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, and I feel like a lot of patients

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<v Speaker 2>just get thrown around different departments going, oh, well, now

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to sort that out, and now

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to sort that out, and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't add up for them, like it's a painful process

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<v Speaker 2>to go through bingo. Yeah, it's terrible. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it happen with so many friends where they're constantly running

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<v Speaker 2>around trying to solve another problem now that was triggered

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<v Speaker 2>by something else they were trying to solve. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you if a woman in a mid to

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<v Speaker 2>late there is wants to conceive, what should she be

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<v Speaker 2>doing and thinking about if she hadn't frozen her eggs previously.

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<v Speaker 1>You come to my office, you're thirty five, You show

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<v Speaker 1>up to my office for a while, woman exam, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this question. Number one, take a good history. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to rule that enemeytriosis because no one's diagnosed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to rule at pcos. These are the top

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<v Speaker 1>leading causes of infertility. They need to be ruled out.

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<v Speaker 1>On that visit Three, I do a pelvic ultrasound. I

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<v Speaker 1>look at her anatomy, I look at her ovaries. I

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<v Speaker 1>look for pcos looking ovaries on ultrasound, I look to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure she doesn't have chocolate cysts. I look to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure she doesn't have any abnormalcis on the ovary.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I go to the uterus. I make sure she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any fibroids, because fibroids, when they come closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the lining of the uterus, they can cause heavy periods,

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<v Speaker 1>painful periods, or they can cause fertility issues and miscarriages.

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<v Speaker 1>I look for polyps in the lining of the uterus.

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<v Speaker 1>PCOS patients specially because of that hormonal changes. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of polyps in the lining of their uterus,

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<v Speaker 1>so that can block them from getting pregnant, so I

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<v Speaker 1>look for that. I do a three D image of

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<v Speaker 1>their uterus on my pelvic ultrasound to make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a septum. You'll be surprised of how many

1:06:55.720 --> 1:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>patients go through fertility clinics. Do idf embryo, gets transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>or they don't get pregnant. They end up in my

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<v Speaker 1>clinic and I'm like, you have a large septum. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are all the things that I do. Then after

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done taking a good history doing a pelvic ultrasound,

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<v Speaker 1>I send them to my lap. I check all their hormones,

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<v Speaker 1>I check their thyroid hormones. I check for thyroid antibodies.

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<v Speaker 1>I check for prolactin. These are hormones that can affect ovulation.

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<v Speaker 1>I check their testosterone levels. If I'm suspecting PCOS in them,

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<v Speaker 1>I check DHAS, which can go up. It's we call

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<v Speaker 1>it adrenal pcos. And everyone's stressed out in LA where

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<v Speaker 1>I live. So adrenal PCOS is a real condition where

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<v Speaker 1>they start secreting androgens and they have symptoms very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to PCOS. So I screen for DHAS in their blood,

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<v Speaker 1>and I check testosterone free and total, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>a full SDD panel. But the most important thing I

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<v Speaker 1>do in a thirty five year old, I also check

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<v Speaker 1>her account, so that account is very important for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I do all of this, then I tell her

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<v Speaker 1>to go get pregnant. How how did they try for pregnancy? Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend having them start prenatal vitamins usually three months prior.

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<v Speaker 1>If they have a progesterone IUD because there have been

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<v Speaker 1>my patient, I pull that IUD. If they have PCOS,

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<v Speaker 1>I treat them with every single thing we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>before they start trying. Because met Foreman the ov supplement.

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<v Speaker 1>These things stimulate ovulation. Help with the ovulation and lowers

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<v Speaker 1>their inflammation. I encourage a healthy diet, a good exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>stopping smoking, stopping alcohol, and then I tell them to

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<v Speaker 1>go try to have sex three to four times. For

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<v Speaker 1>patients younger than thirty five, I usually give them a

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<v Speaker 1>year to try. For patients who are older thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>and older, I tell them go try for six months

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<v Speaker 1>and come back. I screen for their partner's health. I

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<v Speaker 1>ask the age, I ask if they use any drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>if they smoke weed, if they've had any fertility issues,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's any concern. I sometimes get a semen analysis

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't want my patients to try at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five for six months and then find out that the

1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:21.240
<v Speaker 1>semen is not bad and thirty percent of fertility issues

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<v Speaker 1>are male related, and then you know, I have them

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<v Speaker 1>try for pregnancy. One thing I don't have them do

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<v Speaker 1>is check their ovulation, check their temperature, get an ov

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<v Speaker 1>you kit, because the more you think about it and

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<v Speaker 1>the more you stress, the more cortisol you release and

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<v Speaker 1>your hormones go off balance. So I tell them go

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<v Speaker 1>try for six months, go try for a year, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not pregnant, come back. But one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I do in my office, I've already done ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the screening for that patient. So it's rare for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have a patient show up to my office

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<v Speaker 1>under my care that she's tried for a year and

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<v Speaker 1>she's not getting pregnant. If they're under my care, I've

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<v Speaker 1>already ruled out everything. And if they've had pcos, I've

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<v Speaker 1>addressed it. If they've had any meteorosism, I've addressed it.

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<v Speaker 1>If they've had autoimmune I've already addressed it. If they've

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<v Speaker 1>had a septum, I've resected it. If they've had polyps,

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<v Speaker 1>I've dealt with it. Do you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>So when I let them go, I maximize that time

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<v Speaker 1>this is not being done. One thing I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do for women in the healthcare system, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make pelvic ultrasounds mandatory at a well woman exam. Just

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<v Speaker 1>by doing a bimanual exam, you can't screen for these things.

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<v Speaker 1>If you come to my office and you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do a pelvic ultrasound, then I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you to leave, probably because it's just like taking someone's

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<v Speaker 1>glasses away and telling them to read. I see so

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<v Speaker 1>much with my ultrasound. I can't even imagine women going

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<v Speaker 1>once a year to their doctor and not having an

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<v Speaker 1>ultras out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for a long time at least these things

1:11:18.840 --> 1:11:21.559
<v Speaker 2>weren't talked about, and so people thought having kids was

1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:24.080
<v Speaker 2>just like you turn up, you have kids, and things

1:11:24.120 --> 1:11:26.160
<v Speaker 2>work out that way. And I think everyone realizes all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, like I was saying, you start talking

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<v Speaker 2>to all your friends and like, hey, I had a miscarriage. Hey, hey,

1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:34.519
<v Speaker 2>we've been trying for six months, nothing's happened. Now we're

1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:36.160
<v Speaker 2>going to go get checked. Hey, you know. And so

1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:39.400
<v Speaker 2>it's fascinating that this wasn't talked about for so long

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<v Speaker 2>that now when people are finally coming to the point

1:11:42.120 --> 1:11:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of wanting to conceive, wherever they are in their life,

1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:46.599
<v Speaker 2>they think that there's something wrong with them, or they

1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:49.760
<v Speaker 2>think there's something that's not working out, or now they're

1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:53.120
<v Speaker 2>figuring out a health issue because of the reactive approach

1:11:53.200 --> 1:11:55.720
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to, Hey, having a kid's not easy no

1:11:55.720 --> 1:11:57.200
<v Speaker 2>matter what age you are, because there could be a

1:11:57.240 --> 1:12:00.640
<v Speaker 2>million different things going on, as we've discussed today, and

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<v Speaker 2>so whether you're in your twenties and you don't want

1:12:02.800 --> 1:12:04.479
<v Speaker 2>to have a kid, told you with that is, there's

1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:06.439
<v Speaker 2>still things you can do. There's still steps you can

1:12:06.439 --> 1:12:08.880
<v Speaker 2>take now that are probably going to help you, even

1:12:08.920 --> 1:12:09.960
<v Speaker 2>if it's that far away.

1:12:10.120 --> 1:12:12.920
<v Speaker 1>If you've tried for a year and you've had sex

1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:17.439
<v Speaker 1>three to four times every week and you haven't gotten

1:12:17.439 --> 1:12:20.200
<v Speaker 1>pregnant at the end of the year, here's what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. Number one bucket is the female factor. Right,

1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it's the woman. Check your hormones. I listed those hormones,

1:12:29.439 --> 1:12:34.160
<v Speaker 1>thyroid panel, prolactin, testosterone, free testosterone, dhgas. Make sure those

1:12:34.200 --> 1:12:37.400
<v Speaker 1>are normal. Do an SCD check, check for gonarrhea, chlamydia,

1:12:38.160 --> 1:12:43.599
<v Speaker 1>check your AMH anti malarian hormone. Is egg count Basically

1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:47.679
<v Speaker 1>it tells us what that ovarian reserve is for the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number one, So that's female factor. Second, you want

1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to make sure the agcount is good and the hormones

1:12:54.280 --> 1:12:57.639
<v Speaker 1>are good. Second bucket is the male factor. Make sure

1:12:57.760 --> 1:13:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the semen analysis is normal. If your partner go to

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<v Speaker 1>any fertility clinic, do a sman analysis. It takes two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to do that. Number three I call it the

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<v Speaker 1>anatomy bucket. Right, get a pelvic ultrasound because doctors are

1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:16.320
<v Speaker 1>not doing it. Make sure you don't have fibroids. Make

1:13:16.360 --> 1:13:18.960
<v Speaker 1>sure in the lining of the cavity you don't have

1:13:19.000 --> 1:13:22.759
<v Speaker 1>any polyps. Make sure you don't have any septum. Ask

1:13:22.880 --> 1:13:28.320
<v Speaker 1>your doctor for an HSG. Histrosapingogram is a very simple

1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:32.120
<v Speaker 1>procedure done by radiologists. They basically inject die into the

1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:36.160
<v Speaker 1>uterus and they flush the tubes. Not only it flushes

1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the tubes and helps you get pregnant, it tells us

1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.200
<v Speaker 1>whether or not there's any blockage of the tubes. A

1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:44.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of patients with endometriosis with scar tissue can have

1:13:44.160 --> 1:13:47.080
<v Speaker 1>block tubes and that's why they're not getting pregnant. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the third bucket. My fourth bucket is the bucket

1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of endometriosis. Have you had painful periods? Do you have

1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:58.360
<v Speaker 1>painful sex? Do you get really bloated? Have you had

1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:02.760
<v Speaker 1>recurrent bladder infections? With negative culture? Is bound movements painful?

1:14:03.240 --> 1:14:08.200
<v Speaker 1>If you think you have endometriosis. Endometriosis can cause infertility

1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:13.280
<v Speaker 1>in several ways. A that inflammatory environment that we talked

1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:16.760
<v Speaker 1>about destroys the egg, doesn't let the egg go to

1:14:16.840 --> 1:14:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the tube. The tubes are scarred. Even when you make

1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:23.440
<v Speaker 1>an embryo and the embryo wants to implant into the uterus.

1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:26.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of these patients have adenomiosis, which we didn't

1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:30.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about. It's a sister diagnosis to endometriosis. A lot

1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of times they go hand in hand when the walls

1:14:33.000 --> 1:14:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of the uterus are so glandular, and when you have that,

1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>your risk of miscarriage goes up. So this bucket is

1:14:40.960 --> 1:14:44.760
<v Speaker 1>an extremely important bucket. And if you think you have

1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:48.000
<v Speaker 1>endometriosis and your doctor is telling you you don't have it,

1:14:48.439 --> 1:14:52.320
<v Speaker 1>go find another doctor, Go find an endometriosis specialist. You

1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:55.840
<v Speaker 1>have to be your own health advocate in this specific

1:14:56.040 --> 1:15:00.920
<v Speaker 1>bucket because it will get dismissed. Okay. And the next

1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:04.360
<v Speaker 1>bucket is the bucket of PCOS, which we spend all

1:15:04.400 --> 1:15:07.919
<v Speaker 1>this time. If you have irregular period, if you have acne,

1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:11.160
<v Speaker 1>hair lost, facial hair, body hair, if you have gain,

1:15:11.280 --> 1:15:13.519
<v Speaker 1>if you gain weight and you can't lose it, if

1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you've struggled with weight most of your life, if you're anxious, depressed,

1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:20.840
<v Speaker 1>history of eating disorder, these are all telltale signs of

1:15:20.840 --> 1:15:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a PCOS issue. And PCOS patients when they want to

1:15:24.479 --> 1:15:28.320
<v Speaker 1>get pregnant, I would have a million percent I swear

1:15:28.360 --> 1:15:31.439
<v Speaker 1>not because it's my supplement because it works. Take the

1:15:31.520 --> 1:15:35.600
<v Speaker 1>ov supplement. Ask your doctor for met Foreman. Believe it

1:15:35.720 --> 1:15:39.600
<v Speaker 1>or not. Women in this bucket who are lean and

1:15:39.680 --> 1:15:41.599
<v Speaker 1>they go to the doctor and the doctor says, well,

1:15:41.600 --> 1:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>your hemoglobin A one c is normal. You don't have

1:15:43.840 --> 1:15:49.439
<v Speaker 1>insulin resistance. That lean woman also has insulin resistance at

1:15:49.479 --> 1:15:52.479
<v Speaker 1>his tissue level. You can't see it in the blood,

1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.040
<v Speaker 1>but she has it at her tissue level. And putting

1:15:55.040 --> 1:15:58.280
<v Speaker 1>them on the supplement and giving them met Foreman will

1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:02.320
<v Speaker 1>help them ovulate and get pregnant. That's how you pull

1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:05.040
<v Speaker 1>these patients out of the hands of the fertility doctors.

1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:09.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's my what are we fifth bucket? And my

1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:15.080
<v Speaker 1>sixth bucket is my autoimmune bucket. This bucket is always

1:16:15.120 --> 1:16:18.200
<v Speaker 1>also dismissed in woman, this is your friend with the

1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:22.280
<v Speaker 1>autoimmune condition. These are patients that when you have an

1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:25.840
<v Speaker 1>autoimmune Let's say, if you have psoriasis, Yeah, sooriasis doesn't

1:16:25.840 --> 1:16:29.280
<v Speaker 1>affect your fertility. But if you have psoriasis, you might

1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:34.000
<v Speaker 1>have another autoimmune condition that does affect your fertility. Why

1:16:34.040 --> 1:16:38.360
<v Speaker 1>am I saying this. Let's take ANTIFOSPHILIPD syndrome. These are

1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:43.120
<v Speaker 1>patients who might not have any symptoms right, but in

1:16:43.200 --> 1:16:47.720
<v Speaker 1>their labs their antifossilipid syndrome is positive. These patients make

1:16:47.760 --> 1:16:52.160
<v Speaker 1>clot easily in pregnancy. Pregnancy is a hypercoagulable state, and

1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:55.920
<v Speaker 1>patients in this bucket when they get pregnant, they make

1:16:56.000 --> 1:17:00.639
<v Speaker 1>blood clots in their placenta. They get recurrent miscarriages. Sometimes

1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I have my medical assistant present a patient to me.

1:17:03.520 --> 1:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>We have a new patient. She's had five miscarriages, she's

1:17:07.800 --> 1:17:11.920
<v Speaker 1>seen all these doctors. She's pregnant right now, she's five weeks.

1:17:12.240 --> 1:17:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Even before going in, I'm like, give her blood thinners.

1:17:16.000 --> 1:17:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't even need to see the patient. I can

1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:20.599
<v Speaker 1>tell you she needs butt thinners because she's in this

1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:28.200
<v Speaker 1>dismissed sixth bucket. For me, in my practice, it's extremely rare,

1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:33.680
<v Speaker 1>extremely rare that I find someone unexplained infertility. Do you

1:17:33.760 --> 1:17:36.599
<v Speaker 1>know that if you look at the literature, they say

1:17:36.680 --> 1:17:41.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of infertility is female related, thirty percent is

1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:47.479
<v Speaker 1>male related, and thirty percent is unexplained or mixed. Like

1:17:47.560 --> 1:17:52.240
<v Speaker 1>no one knows really, I know, really know why because

1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:56.920
<v Speaker 1>those are my poor endometriosis and PCOS women, the auto

1:17:57.000 --> 1:18:01.280
<v Speaker 1>immune woman that no one is addressing, them. I always say,

1:18:01.280 --> 1:18:05.800
<v Speaker 1>if you send every twenty year old to my office once, Actually,

1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:07.320
<v Speaker 1>if I could take him, I would probably take him

1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:10.799
<v Speaker 1>at eighteen, every eighteen year old to my office once.

1:18:11.720 --> 1:18:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I would shut down a lot of these fertility centers

1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.800
<v Speaker 1>because I would not dismiss a woman with a demetriosis.

1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I would not dismiss a woman with PCOS. Now that

1:18:22.760 --> 1:18:27.559
<v Speaker 1>you learned all this, I want you to imagine this patient,

1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen thousands of them. Imagine a thirty four

1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:38.479
<v Speaker 1>year old girl who's had irregular period, who's overweight since

1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:40.959
<v Speaker 1>she was in high school. She had an eating disorder

1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:44.639
<v Speaker 1>because her sister was very thin, her mom was very thin,

1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:48.240
<v Speaker 1>and at a very young age, her mom kept telling her, honey,

1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:51.320
<v Speaker 1>why are you You probably eating unhealthy, that's why you're overweight,

1:18:51.439 --> 1:18:55.800
<v Speaker 1>eat less. She gets anxiety, she gets depression. By the

1:18:55.840 --> 1:19:00.000
<v Speaker 1>time she's sixteen, she has an eating disorder. She has acne.

1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Her mom takes her to the dermatologist. They start her

1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:09.160
<v Speaker 1>on acutane. She is very depressed. She goes to a psychiatrist.

1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:13.680
<v Speaker 1>They put her on an antidepressant. She bounces from psychiatry

1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:17.400
<v Speaker 1>office to psychiatry office. She's doubled over in pain. When

1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:20.200
<v Speaker 1>she's at school, the nurse calls for her mom to

1:19:20.240 --> 1:19:26.799
<v Speaker 1>come and pick her up. She goes to ten twenty

1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:33.439
<v Speaker 1>fifty doctors from state to state, country to country, and

1:19:33.520 --> 1:19:38.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone tells her that she needs to eat less, exercise more,

1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that she's stressed out, that she was born anxious and depressed,

1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that her medications need to be changed. And by the

1:19:46.920 --> 1:19:49.840
<v Speaker 1>time she gets to me, she's thirty four years old.

1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I do her amah and she has no eggs left.

1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:01.880
<v Speaker 1>This is my broken heart. This is my trauma. This

1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>is every single patient I see in my office. Do

1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you understand? And I don't take insurance. My office is expensive,

1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:16.400
<v Speaker 1>not because I want to torture patients, because I just

1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:20.880
<v Speaker 1>can't see patients anymore. I've done this thirty years and

1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm at Their trauma is my trauma. And that's why

1:20:24.720 --> 1:20:29.519
<v Speaker 1>I started my podcast, my CMD podcast. I literally take

1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:33.200
<v Speaker 1>these we don't talk about men. Men are not allowed.

1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:37.599
<v Speaker 1>It's a safe place for women. And I literally take

1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:45.479
<v Speaker 1>every single condition ENDO, pcos, fibroids, SDDS, one by one.

1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I teach them. I empower them to become their own

1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>health advocate. So if you're twenty five and you go

1:20:53.920 --> 1:20:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to an office and you're being dismissed. Those that needs

1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:02.479
<v Speaker 1>to stop. I'm here today because I want to change

1:21:02.479 --> 1:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>this healthcare system. I swear to God. I feel like

1:21:06.120 --> 1:21:09.599
<v Speaker 1>this is my calling. I feel like I was placed

1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:13.240
<v Speaker 1>on this planet to change this. I feel like I

1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:17.400
<v Speaker 1>got breast cancer because I was You know, do you

1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:19.400
<v Speaker 1>know how many people called me crazy with my breast

1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:24.479
<v Speaker 1>cancer journey? And if as a women's health advocate people

1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:27.120
<v Speaker 1>call me crazy? Do you think women have a chance

1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in this healthcare system?

1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>That's so painful? It's so painful, and try.

1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:34.719
<v Speaker 1>To get it so painful. You don't understand the depth

1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of this pain that these women go through. You don't

1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:45.840
<v Speaker 1>understand it. The gas lighting is toxic. I want to scream.

1:21:46.280 --> 1:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>That's why I say I want the President of the

1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:52.439
<v Speaker 1>United States to give me the mic. People grab that

1:21:52.560 --> 1:21:57.120
<v Speaker 1>mic for nonsense. Give me that mic for twenty minutes only.

1:21:58.080 --> 1:22:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell women what they deserve to know. You

1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:05.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be thirty five years old to find

1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>out you don't have any eggs left. You don't have

1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:11.240
<v Speaker 1>to be thirty five to learn that you have giant fibroids,

1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that you have endometriosis, that you have pcos that you

1:22:14.760 --> 1:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have an audioimmune condition, that your lifetime risk of breast

1:22:17.960 --> 1:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>cancer is high and no one diagnosed it, and now

1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you have stage four breast cancer. Enough, enough is enough.

1:22:24.880 --> 1:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>That's it. I can talk for another ten hours.

1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Ray. I want to thank you for showing up

1:22:31.680 --> 1:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>and to have such a clear, conscious, powerful message delivered

1:22:36.280 --> 1:22:39.360
<v Speaker 2>that emphatically by you to everyone who's listening right now.

1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who's listening or watching right now, please go and

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1:22:49.320 --> 1:22:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the extra ten hours of conversations around any of these

1:22:52.320 --> 1:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>areas you're struggling with, and of course, past this episode

1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:56.559
<v Speaker 2>onto a friend. I think there's going to be someone

1:22:56.560 --> 1:22:59.479
<v Speaker 2>in your life who you know is struggling silently, who

1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:01.519
<v Speaker 2>you know so offering in the background, who you know

1:23:01.720 --> 1:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>is not aware of what they're going through. I hope

1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you'll share this episode with them as a way of

1:23:07.560 --> 1:23:12.360
<v Speaker 2>sparking a conversation and starting their journey and empowering yourself

1:23:12.400 --> 1:23:15.519
<v Speaker 2>through your health journey. Doctor thank you for enlightening us,

1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>inspiring us, and giving us such a no so sweet,

1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:21.920
<v Speaker 2>powerful message. Truly I learned so much today, more than

1:23:21.920 --> 1:23:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I ever have truly on this subject. And even more

1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>than that, I appreciate your directness, just your conviction in

1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:32.960
<v Speaker 2>how important this is, because you're absolutely right. I mean,

1:23:33.240 --> 1:23:35.639
<v Speaker 2>women's health has been ignored for a long time. It's

1:23:35.680 --> 1:23:38.200
<v Speaker 2>been deprioritized for a long time. It is at the

1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:41.080
<v Speaker 2>core of how we exist as humans. So for us

1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to not understand it is there is no excuse for it,

1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:46.519
<v Speaker 2>just no excuse. And I'm just really thankful that you

1:23:46.600 --> 1:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>came on today and shed so much light on it.

1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:49.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm very great for.

1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Your sweet for giving me this mic.

1:23:51.840 --> 1:23:54.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it. Well, hopefully you get the the

1:23:54.960 --> 1:23:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the President's mic too, that's that definitely. But thank you

1:23:58.040 --> 1:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>for your time and energy.

1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me.

1:24:01.080 --> 1:24:03.880
<v Speaker 2>If you enjoyed this podcast, you're going to love my

1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>conversation with Michelle Obama where she opens up on how

1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>to stay with your partner when they're changing. If you're

1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>going through something right now with your partner, this is

1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the episode for you.

1:24:15.320 --> 1:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>The world won't always like you, but you can't count

1:24:19.360 --> 1:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>on the world to like you.