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Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: This next story is difficult. We've had a personal involvement

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Speaker 1: with this story going back thirty years and it was

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Speaker 1: the murder of poly Claus, who was twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: As I explained in the last segment, Richard Allen Davis

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Speaker 1: strikes movement, and we were heavily involved in this story

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Speaker 1: in getting it passed by the legislature, which was run

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Speaker 1: by another version of these idiot progressive Democrats that we've

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Speaker 1: that has ruined so many lives in our state. But again,

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Speaker 1: the public votes these people in three strikes was passed.

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Speaker 1: It also passed as a referendum, and ever since then,

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Speaker 1: Mark Class has been fighting for victims' rights with various organizations,

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Speaker 1: and now Richard Allen Davis that that that human evil

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked.

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Speaker 1: But there's a state senter named Ben Allen from Santa Monica,

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Speaker 1: of course, who wrote a bill that removed sentencing enhancements retroactively.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, let's talk to Mark Class here and see

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Speaker 1: what this is about, because this has caught me by surprise.

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Speaker 2: Mark, how are you.

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Speaker 3: Well, John, I was caught as much surprise as you

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe thirty years later we are still dealing

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Speaker 1: this resentencing. I'm just I'm really, really sorry you have

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Speaker 3: Thank you. You're absolutely correct. This is absolutely horrendous for

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Speaker 3: this guy has had every consideration from the moment that

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Speaker 3: extremely well paid death penalty defense attorney. He was found guilty.

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Speaker 3: He has lost numerous appeals, including to the California Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: He had basically exhausted his opportunity. Yet here we are,

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Speaker 3: the kicker of this John is that there I made

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Speaker 3: and say, if this guy qualifies, how many other individuals

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Speaker 2: What ten thousand?

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Speaker 3: I got a list back of almost ten thousand names,

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Speaker 3: And that means that what's happening to me is really

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Speaker 3: again getting the very same consideration that Richard Allen Davis got. Now,

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Speaker 3: remember I've gotten no consideration at all throughout this process.

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Speaker 3: This is all about people like him. This is all

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Speaker 1: When was this bill signed, this Ben Allen bill that

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure when it was signed, but I do

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Speaker 2: Last year, so something that Gavin Knewsom likely signed.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people can comprehend how terrifying it was

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Speaker 3: John I spoke too soon, because not only is this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, supported by most of the legislature too. They didn't

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Speaker 3: Sure, I believe the worst case scenario we're ruling to

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Speaker 3: we have to remember they've already declared the death penalty moratorium.

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Speaker 3: They've torn down the death penalty mechanism in San Quentin.

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Speaker 3: They're closing down death row in San Quentin. Richard Allen Davis,

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Speaker 3: in fact, no longer lives on death row. He's been

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Speaker 1: Not. What really frightens me is, while he supposedly is

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Speaker 2: Could something like that spring him before he.

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Speaker 3: had powerful influence over the state. Because of Charles mans

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Speaker 2: States, Gerald Ford.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gerald Ford, I means absolutely. Clarence ray Allen, one

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Speaker 3: I believe San Quentin. Yet from his prison still he

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you can't stop the influence of these people, monsters.

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Speaker 2: It's why you have to dead.

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Speaker 1: It's why you have to kill them, because they're so psychotic,

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Speaker 1: They're incomprehensibly psychotic, and you have to kill them.

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Speaker 2: There's no other choice.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, we have passed several referendums the public,

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Speaker 2: Can you hang on for another segment?

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Speaker 1: Mark Sure, I got a lot lot I want to

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Speaker 1: discuss Mark Klass his daughter Polyclaus. I really can't believe

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom signed a bill which has led now to

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica. I just don't know what's wrong with people.

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Speaker 1: Why would you vote for a Ben Allen or a

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom if they give a break to Richard Allen Davis,

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Speaker 1: pillows over all the girls heads at the slumber party, kidnap,

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Speaker 1: a sentencing break and trust me, life without parole is

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with everyone?

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Speaker 1: What kind of weird mental disease, some sickness, some fever

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk more with Mark Class coming up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 2: We continue with Mark Kloss.

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Speaker 1: Mark Klass thirty years ago, nineteen ninety three, his daughter,

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Speaker 1: Took two months to find Polly and Richard Allen Davis,

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Speaker 2: Was sentenced to death.

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Speaker 1: But he's not dead because of a bill signed by

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica. He's going to get a resentencing hearing tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. This case triggered the three strikes movement back

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Speaker 1: Let's get Mark Klass back on. I can't fathom how

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Speaker 1: many discussions you've had with with legislators and activist people

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Speaker 2: What do you think is wrong with them? What is

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Speaker 1: Because everybody that I talked to in my life would

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Speaker 1: they're doing in the legislature, slowly incrementally, peace by piece.

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Speaker 1: They're going to let guys like this out soon. It's

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Speaker 3: Know, John, We were ruled by very liberal policies in

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Speaker 3: but he was diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a sexually

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Speaker 3: his whole criminal history was about sexually motivated crimes against women.

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Speaker 3: He would beat them, he would pull knives on them,

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Speaker 2: No, these are the criminals.

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Speaker 2: Mark, I've got to go. I hate to learn.

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Speaker 2: Why should they get a break in prison and not

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Speaker 1: Same thing for Ben Allen from Santa Monica. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Where'd you do that?

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Speaker 1: Why do those people deserve a break? Why did you

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Speaker 1: I think these people should be called every day on this,

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Speaker 1: Mark Klass, It is still bitterer and still deep for

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Speaker 1: him and his family. And there is no shame a

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom or a Ben Allen. They're their own version

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Speaker 1: of psychopath because they have no shame, They have no

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Speaker 1: empathy at all, no compassion at all for the victims families.

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Speaker 2: And they could pass their arrogant, silly, little progressive.

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Speaker 1: Legislative obsessions, criminal justice reform. They have all these really

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Speaker 1: impressive Criminal Justice reform.

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Speaker 2: It's garbage.

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Speaker 1: This is a psycho, But hey, keep voting for him,

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Speaker 1: you people on the West side.

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Speaker 2: Ben Allen, he's aprised. You should be very proud.

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Speaker 1: Just don't don't come call in here when your daughter

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Speaker 1: gets kidnapped and out of out of her bedroom, because

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Speaker 1: you're creating a climate where that makes it more likely

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Speaker 1: to happen. What do you think is going to happen?

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Speaker 1: You think there's gonna be less of it more coming up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 1: There's a funny video that we've just retweeted on the

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Speaker 1: John Cobalt Show account. It just happened in Sacramento. It's short,

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Speaker 1: thirty second video. Thief shows up at the at the

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Speaker 1: at a house where there's a package at the doorstep,

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Speaker 1: and the thief pulled a garbage bag like a big

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Speaker 1: thirty gallon trash bag over his head and crouched down

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Speaker 1: and shuffled up wearing the bag. Then he reaches steals

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Speaker 1: the package, it turns around and he shuffles off, still

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Speaker 1: wearing the bag over his head. So even though there's

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Speaker 1: a ring camera, you can't identify him. It's really funny.

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Speaker 1: So you can go on our Twitter account there and

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Speaker 1: watch it.

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Speaker 6: People are so unique in their ways of being crooks.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I laughed so hard when I saw that. It is funny.

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Speaker 2: That's a big person in Okay, you're rooting for a thief. No,

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Speaker 2: I was rooting thieves before.

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Speaker 6: You rooting No, No, no, this one I was. I

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Speaker 6: thought it was funny and creative, but I was pissed

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Speaker 6: because I hate those porch birrates, Like, how dare you

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Speaker 6: go to somebody's porch and steal their stuff, even if

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Speaker 6: you're wearing a big old trash bag over your head.

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Speaker 2: I got something else funny here.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Tiffany Henyard, the mayor of Dalton, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: It's a small town, twenty four thousand people. It's all

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Speaker 1: black citizens there, and she's their mayor and they are

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Speaker 1: so angry with her. She's the one who spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of money on her outfits and her hair. Remember

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Speaker 1: we talked about that. Well, now the town has caught

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Speaker 1: on to what she does. She has a suspicious charity

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Speaker 1: called the Tiffany Hanyard Carris Foundation, which is supposed to

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Speaker 1: help cancer patients and the Illinois Attorney General is investigating

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Speaker 1: because the financial reports are a little suspicious. Anyway, she

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Speaker 1: tried to keep the public out of the city meetings

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Speaker 1: by hiring a security service with new security checks, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of people got in and we're going to

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Speaker 1: play you this TV report by Fox thirty two in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Nate Rogers, and it got really heated.

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Speaker 5: This board of trustees meeting ended early tonight, was four

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Speaker 5: trustees actually walking out abruptly.

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Speaker 2: The village clerk left early as well. First, I want

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Speaker 2: to paint a picture.

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Speaker 5: Of what all we were able to experience. It was

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Speaker 5: very chaotic, and, to be quite honest with you, frankly

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Speaker 5: honest with you, it was even scary at times for

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Speaker 5: those of us that were inside of the meeting. There

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Speaker 5: were folks banging on the windows and doors of the

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Speaker 5: village hall. I'm about one hundred residents showed up at

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Speaker 5: the meeting tonight, but only forty two residents were allowed inside.

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Speaker 5: They had to walk through metal detectors.

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Speaker 2: And they were wanded down.

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Speaker 5: Before I take you inside of the meeting, I want

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Speaker 5: you to listen to what happened outside.

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Speaker 7: First, least, the majority of the people in Dalton should

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Speaker 7: be able to think like the mayor does. She's scary.

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Speaker 5: She's absolutely scary.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we get in our public building to have meetings.

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Speaker 2: Why are meetings being canceled? Why can't we have transparency?

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Speaker 5: What's going on with our tax dollars? Several residents calling

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Speaker 5: on Dalton mayor and Thornton Township Supervisor Tiffany Hinyard to resign.

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Speaker 5: She's been criticized for mismanaging village funds and dividing the

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Speaker 5: board of trustees.

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Speaker 2: The meeting comes amid a.

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Speaker 5: Sexual harassment and retaliation complaint against Hinyard. A former employee

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Speaker 5: says she was sexually assaulted during a work trip in

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Speaker 5: Las Vegas last year.

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Speaker 2: The complaint says.

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Speaker 5: The employee was disoriented and unsure how she woke up

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Speaker 5: inside a village trustees hotel room. When she spoke up

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Speaker 5: about the claims, she was retaliated against, she says, and

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Speaker 5: later fired. The FBI is now looking into village practices.

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Speaker 2: You know what happened, Vegas.

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Speaker 8: You know what happened, and you will not You should

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Speaker 8: be addressing it, saying something to the residents of Valley.

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Speaker 8: I have cancer, of course I do tyfinitely sold money

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Speaker 8: from a Cancer Foundation.

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Speaker 2: How dare you?

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Speaker 8: How dare you steal?

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Speaker 2: And I helped you with your capaign? How Daniel steal

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Speaker 2: from us? I had to buy my whigs?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to reimburse me for the whigs that

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Speaker 3: I've been spending my money on?

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Speaker 8: And they say that you're the worst mayor in America?

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 5: Now, no one is in custody and no charges have

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Speaker 5: been filed. Following that former employees complain. Also, the trustee

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Speaker 5: accused was absent from tonight's meeting. Residents said we should

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Speaker 5: Residents said that that trustees should resign as well. Residents

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Speaker 5: also wore blue ribbons in support of victims of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 5: Now back out of your life just a little bit

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Speaker 5: more on background, We've learned that this was the first

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Speaker 5: time that metal detectors were used, the acting police chiefs

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Speaker 5: saying that they received credible threats even today about this

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Speaker 5: meeting and that's why folks were taken through metal detectors

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Speaker 5: and wanded down again. Four out of their six trustees

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Speaker 5: did leave.

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Speaker 2: The meeting early.

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Speaker 5: Mayre Tiffany hinrid that criticize those board of trustees for leaving,

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Speaker 5: saying that she really wanted to accomplish some of the

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Speaker 5: business of the village and as a result she was

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Speaker 5: unable to do so.

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Speaker 1: They think she's misappropriated a lot of money wow, and

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Speaker 1: gone to Las Vegas and spent it on herself. One

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Speaker 1: woman said, so let's tell the truth, which I know

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Speaker 1: you're incapable of. She's saying this to Hainyard. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: trust this woman if she stood on a stack of

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Speaker 1: Bibles and had her tongue notorized. Not a damn thing

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Speaker 1: she says that comes out of her mouth is true.

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Speaker 2: From a cancer charity, yes.

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Speaker 1: God, she's stealing. She creates a cancer charity and then

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Speaker 1: leads money. There's a lot of this going on, and

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Speaker 1: there really is. One woman said, stop blowing smoke up

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Speaker 1: the residents behinds.

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Speaker 2: I would have paid money.

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Speaker 6: That would have been a very interesting scene.

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Speaker 2: All right, we come back.

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Speaker 1: Michael Munks is gonna come on about Karen Bass and

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Speaker 1: Katie Roslavsky suddenly discovering that huge trash dump on the

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Speaker 1: frontlawn of a house in the Fairfax District five feet deep.

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Speaker 1: The trash actually higher than that because they found a

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Speaker 1: Toyota celic underneath. And it's just one crazy guy who

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Speaker 1: has thrown his trash out there for at least ten years,

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Speaker 1: the city never did anything about it, and Karen Bass goes, oh, I.

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Speaker 2: Can't believe this. This is an outrage.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM

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Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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