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Speaker 1: like not even a minute. I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just a.
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Speaker 2: It's like I was going to segue into talking about
Speaker 2: all the different measures we used to take to not
Speaker 2: get sick on Scandal. Both my kids last night got
Speaker 2: positive blue tests. You can keep that in the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Any of these shows that do you know, eighteen to
Speaker 2: twenty two episodes, nine day episodes, you're shooting at the
Speaker 2: least fourteen hours a day, like we barely ever did
Speaker 2: twelve hour days. I feel like, oh yeah, there is
Speaker 2: no option of getting sick.
Speaker 1: You can't get sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have full faith that Mary Howard,
Speaker 2: our line producer, could have made the show go post
Speaker 2: COVID world. But like you know, we used to show
Speaker 2: up sick to work.
Speaker 1: The tardless yees like oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean Carrie could not fall down and she had
Speaker 2: two little ones in the later seasons of Scandal, who like,
Speaker 2: as soon as your kids start going to nursery school,
Speaker 2: you're fucked. Like it's just like every other day is diarrhea, vomiting,
Speaker 2: l it's like whatever. And I remember her getting like
Speaker 2: either the flu or close to the flu, like a
Speaker 2: million times over, and I just was running around set
Speaker 2: passing out. Yeah, every homeopathic.
Speaker 1: Potions and shit they used to. Once they sent a
Speaker 1: doctor to my house to do like a house call
Speaker 1: because I had like a fever and I was in
Speaker 1: the middle of shooting oh yeah, and she gave me
Speaker 1: like that Z pack and some like shots or some shit,
Speaker 1: because like you said, we just couldn't get sick that
Speaker 1: you know, not showing up wasn't an option. We couldn't
Speaker 1: be like can't come in today, like I'm you.
Speaker 2: Know those Scandal days where like your wellness and well
Speaker 2: being was everybody else's responsibility to so you could just
Speaker 2: like text Harry Howard to be like I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to send a doctor to my house to
Speaker 2: get busy pack. It's like now that we're regular mortals
Speaker 2: walking around the planet, we have to figure out how
Speaker 2: to get our own damn prescriptions. Yes, So when you
Speaker 2: hear me and g in this episode just clearing our
Speaker 2: throats a lot and sucking on our own snot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: This is one of the most chock full episodes I
Speaker 2: think we have ever done to date.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but it's such a fun episode. Like I
Speaker 1: remember having so much fun shooting this particular episode.
Speaker 2: This episode two oh three is what we're talking about today, people.
Speaker 2: It is called Hunting Season. It aired on October eighteenth,
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. It was written by Matt Byrne, again
Speaker 2: one of the go to Scala writers who also wrote
Speaker 2: Uninventing Anna. It was directed by Ron Underwood.
Speaker 1: Do you remember run Underway?
Speaker 2: Yes, he did a great job, he really did.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Katie At one point, I think when
Speaker 1: we wrapped her in the of shooting, Columbus picked him
Speaker 1: up and, like you, shuffled him around because he's a
Speaker 1: little guy. I love little guy. I'm a little guy too.
Speaker 1: But I remember Columbus just grabbing him and lifting him
Speaker 1: up in the air and Ron was like, boy, what's happening.
Speaker 1: He was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I feel like Ron was like five six, Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: he's adorable. He's like adorable looking, so he gives off
Speaker 2: the vibe of like someone you just sort of want
Speaker 2: to pick up and harry around in your pocket.
Speaker 1: And Ron also directed Tremors, which is a really old
Speaker 1: school famous horror film.
Speaker 2: You know, me and my horror Yo, Guillermo. We got
Speaker 2: to start a drinking game that involves the scandal Rewatch
Speaker 2: podcast and like horror backstory. Yes, okay. Guest stars on
Speaker 2: this episode are incredible. We've got Norm Lewis's Senator Edison Davis,
Speaker 2: Greg Henry's Hollis Doyle, Brenda Song as Alyssa, Brian Letcher
Speaker 2: as Tom Tony Westmorland is how Wendy Davis is? Can really?
Speaker 2: Mitchell Stephen W. Bailey is Noah Elliott, Patrick Fischler is
Speaker 2: already Hornbacher Hello, and Anne Cusack Holy shit do they
Speaker 2: look alike?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The q Sack as one of the three. I think
Speaker 2: there's three of them. We're going to get into that
Speaker 2: leader as NSA director Corinne Stark, Yes, okay, okay, I'll
Speaker 2: start synopy sis. Tensions are running high Olivia Popen associates
Speaker 2: due to questions about Quinn's background, and when an NSA
Speaker 2: analyst already Hornbacker drops the bombshell, claiming that the government
Speaker 2: is using a new technology called thorn Gate to spy
Speaker 2: on its citizens. Olivia's caught off guard with how far
Speaker 2: up this scandal goes and distracted by her problems with
Speaker 2: Fitz at the White House, Cyrus has to try and
Speaker 2: keep Fits calm and collected. When Olivia's former flamed Senator
Speaker 2: Edison Davis shows up. Melly is happy that things are
Speaker 2: going good with her and Fits now until she learns
Speaker 2: that he had Olivia brought to him, so she threatens Fits. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: David Rosen, with the help of his former assistant, dig
Speaker 2: deeper into his conspiracy theory about how he lost his
Speaker 2: case against Quinn and what Olivia's involvement might be.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what's up. That was good, Wayne O, Megusta, Muccoesposo.
Speaker 2: Me, boyfriend.
Speaker 1: What you don't mean again, slut?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you that from now on. I should
Speaker 2: know what is wrong with me? Okay yo, let's get
Speaker 2: into this episode. So much happens. God, it's solid, It's
Speaker 2: just so solid. And we've got the introduction of the
Speaker 2: one and only Norm Lewis Yes as Senator Edison Davis.
Speaker 2: Like you are your you have your horror stuff, and
Speaker 2: every single guest star and director that come on that
Speaker 2: that was a horror person. But when Norm Lewis, King
Speaker 2: of Musical Theaters on is Olivia Pope's ex boyfriend, I
Speaker 2: shit myself. Then I called Adam, who was also my husband,
Speaker 2: a big musical theater nerd. I have watched norm Lewis.
Speaker 2: I mean Norm Lewis was the first black Phantom of
Speaker 2: the opera. He was in the twenty fifth anniversary concert
Speaker 2: of les Mis. Yeah, you're welcome, everybody I saw in
Speaker 2: Porgy in Best shondaland Family. Audra McDonald, yea, he is incredible.
Speaker 1: He was a Miss Site Gone, he was in Miss
Speaker 1: Chicago dream Girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys.
Speaker 2: This guy is a musical theater icon. His voice is
Speaker 2: that of a gift from Angels.
Speaker 1: I think he even sang to us, Katie. I remember
Speaker 1: being on set and he sang to us, do you
Speaker 1: remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What did he say?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I just remember it sort of happening.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember who was there.
Speaker 2: Let them hear you. I think he said. Did he
Speaker 2: sing God on High? Did he sing a song from Oh?
Speaker 2: I do remember every Wow? Thank God, you have a
Speaker 2: good memory, Giarma, because I do remember the entire cast
Speaker 2: and crew all coming into Olivia Popan associates around the
Speaker 2: conference table because Norm was like, yeah, sing you guys
Speaker 2: a little something. Oh he's so good. And I feel
Speaker 2: like in the beginning this top part of Scandal where
Speaker 2: the episode opens and he's like, on our fake news channel,
Speaker 2: which is called b NC. Yeah, yea are fake news
Speaker 2: network station on Scandal was called BNC, and Edison is
Speaker 2: on and he's talking about how the president's fucking up
Speaker 2: and he's doing a bad job, and this is all
Speaker 2: the things Edison things he should do because he's a
Speaker 2: powerful senator. Olivia calls him and is like, dude, you're
Speaker 2: wearing pin stripes. No one can even hear what you're
Speaker 2: saying when your shirt is doing a weird jumpy thing on.
Speaker 1: The camera is moving back and forth.
Speaker 2: It is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I watch I Love Lucy and back in
Speaker 1: the day they used to wear pinstripes. I remember those
Speaker 1: episodes and being so annoyed because I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: their clothing is moving, it's so distracting.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So it's funny that you know that he wore that
Speaker 1: like in modern times now.
Speaker 2: And then we kind of learned that they've like we're like, wait,
Speaker 2: what is this relationship? Who is this new guy? There's
Speaker 2: obviously history there there. Yeah, so we get the case
Speaker 2: of the week, which is this ringer of an actor
Speaker 2: playing already horn or Bucker by Patrick Fischler, And holy shit,
Speaker 2: is this one hell of a guest star and one
Speaker 2: hell of a performance. And if someone's gonna get an
Speaker 2: Emmy for a guest star performance, the fact that this
Speaker 2: dude was not nominated as a cruy Yo.
Speaker 1: Talk about fitting in right away, this little fucker. I
Speaker 1: remember walking in seeing him standing on that on our
Speaker 1: conference table at OPA and just being like, this dude
Speaker 1: is so freaking good. He just fit right in and
Speaker 1: had that scandal past down.
Speaker 2: He was just his steaks were so stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, I wrote it in my notes when I was
Speaker 2: rewatching this episode. So like, you know, we're all back
Speaker 2: at OPA. Quinn's out of living at Olivia's apartment, she's
Speaker 2: out of jail. Everyone's being a bitch to her, mostly
Speaker 2: fucking abby. Like Dwayne walks in. She's back with like,
Speaker 2: hey guys, I'm back at work, Like will you take
Speaker 2: me back? I totally let go with the Lindsay Dwyer identity,
Speaker 2: and I am Quinn Perkins and here's your coffee. And
Speaker 2: Harrison is like, hey, welcome back and gives me like
Speaker 2: a lovely Harrison kiss on the cheek, and Abby's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: welcome back, Lindsey, such a bitch. And then we walk
Speaker 2: into the office and at heart, Alarty, like you said,
Speaker 2: is standing on the table. Was that his choice or
Speaker 2: was that written in the script?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Whatever it was, it was brilliant, just
Speaker 1: that image of him just standing on the table, fidgeting
Speaker 1: with the like fixture above, you know, because he's freaking
Speaker 1: out about shit being bugged. Yeah. I don't remember whose
Speaker 1: idea that was so good though, so good. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was Ron's idea.
Speaker 2: Ron Underwood was little baby Bubby Ron.
Speaker 1: He said, get up on that table.
Speaker 2: But I love his performance. We all walk in and
Speaker 2: he starts talking about this thing called Thorngate, which is
Speaker 2: some insane intelligence shit. How would you even describe this
Speaker 2: shack or gearmo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're spying on citizens. It's not even like
Speaker 1: you know, like world leaders or potential like terrorists or
Speaker 1: people that you feel like the government would be spying
Speaker 1: on just to you know, watch their backs. Iorngate. They're
Speaker 1: literally spying on just your common man or woman. They're
Speaker 1: spying on them. And this this dude, Yeah, he brings
Speaker 1: in this external drive right and plugs it in, and
Speaker 1: then we see I think the first person that we
Speaker 1: see Thorngate like alive and working was with uh with Cyrus. Right.
Speaker 1: We see Cyrus in the White House. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: chatting about the President. He's talking to Hollis Doyle.
Speaker 2: I think this is when we first learned that Cyrus's
Speaker 2: middle name is Cyrus Rutherford Bean. Because it's up on
Speaker 2: your computer, and this is a fun fact, like you
Speaker 2: know already's like okay, pick anybody, pick anybody. I swear it,
Speaker 2: like right now, like thorn Gate is alive and well,
Speaker 2: right now, say anybody's name. We can fucking queue into
Speaker 2: them right now and see where they're at. And she's like, fine,
Speaker 2: Cyrus Rutherford Bean, Oh my god, Rutherford. I don't. I
Speaker 2: did not do a deep dive on where that could
Speaker 2: possibly come from.
Speaker 1: But I did not either, Okay I did not.
Speaker 2: Either, maybe someday, but throwing it to Cyrus Rutherford Bean
Speaker 2: as we bring as Opa breaks to the case to
Speaker 2: figure out about thorn Gate and what we do about it.
Speaker 2: This song on the background is at the car wash
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, hush yeah, which I know for a fucking
Speaker 2: fact that that is Jeff Perry's favorite song of all time.
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me. Oh my god. Just the
Speaker 1: fact that that's Jeff Perry's favorite song has made my
Speaker 1: freaking day, My rainy, rainy, gloomy day is brightened it up?
Speaker 2: What to be that once and he was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was while watching this episode and
Speaker 2: like writing down scandal tweets, but in my memory, hard
Speaker 2: Wash is Jeff Perry's favorite song of all fucking time.
Speaker 2: Oh my picture him driving around.
Speaker 1: Doing the shuffle down to that song. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: That's It's a great background song for all of us.
Speaker 2: And we're doing all our due diligence to figure out
Speaker 2: about thorn Gate and who knows about it and all
Speaker 2: this crap, and Olivia screams at all of us to
Speaker 2: get already out.
Speaker 1: And the reason why Olivia freaks out and orders us
Speaker 1: all to get alarty to a safe place is because
Speaker 1: she has a meeting with Karinda and a say director,
Speaker 1: and Karin doesn't blink an eye when Olivia brings up Thorngate,
Speaker 1: and that sort of puts up a red flag for
Speaker 1: for Olivia, and she's like, oh shit, something's up. This
Speaker 1: woman is trying to cover something up, and can we
Speaker 1: just talk really quickly. The woman that plays.
Speaker 2: Director Krin Anne freaking Csack. Anne Csack, who is I
Speaker 2: don't know what sibling line she's in with?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: John and Joan and Joan they're another one, let me go.
Speaker 1: I know there might be they might not be an
Speaker 1: actor though.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's Joan Cusack obviously, so fucking famous, so amazing.
Speaker 2: There's John Cusack. Oh so they both get names that
Speaker 2: start with Jay, and poor ass. Anne gets just like,
Speaker 2: what the hell? There only Anne and Joan and John
Speaker 2: and John?
Speaker 1: I love it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they're from Evanston, Illinois.
Speaker 1: Really quickly and Cusack so wonderful in this role. But
Speaker 1: also she's been in movies like Stigmata, which is another
Speaker 1: amazing horror film with Patricia Arquette. She was in The
Speaker 1: Bird Cage. But the one film that she's in which
Speaker 1: she is just heartbreaking and stellar in it is a
Speaker 1: league of their own. She's in a League of their own.
Speaker 1: She plays Shirley Baker, the one baseball player, the left
Speaker 1: fielder who in the beginning of the film when they
Speaker 1: put up, you know, the lists of the women that
Speaker 1: made it on the team, and she makes it, but
Speaker 1: she can't read, so she can't find her name. And
Speaker 1: it's the most heart wrenching scene in that movie. It's
Speaker 1: so beautiful and she's so lovely in that scene and
Speaker 1: so emotional, and Gina Davis.
Speaker 2: Davis takes Anne Cusack to the side and is like, honey,
Speaker 2: can you like not read it? Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: And then she goes to, let's go find your name together.
Speaker 2: They take her little finger and they like scroll it
Speaker 2: down the list that's been put up on the wall.
Speaker 1: And then she tells hers you made it, you made it. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: so good. Yes, me too, me too. Shout out to Cusack,
Speaker 1: We love.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Cusack, We love. Fucking superstar Okay. Brenda
Speaker 2: Song is another guest star who's incredible. She plays Alyssa,
Speaker 2: David Rosen's assistant. But she comes in to David's apartment
Speaker 2: and sort of sees that he's in his underwear, which
Speaker 2: I seen Josh Bleine in his underwear is like hilarious.
Speaker 1: I wish they were like tidy whities, though, you know,
Speaker 1: they were like boxers, so it looks like shorts. I
Speaker 1: kind of wish they were like tidy whities, because that'd
Speaker 1: be fine.
Speaker 2: It would have been so funny.
Speaker 1: With like a little sting on the front and the back.
Speaker 2: And like like cartoons, like tweety birds or something.
Speaker 1: Stupid like under rus remember Underroos.
Speaker 2: Yes, like under Ruths. But she comes in and she
Speaker 2: sees that David Rose is in his entire like beautiful
Speaker 2: mind ass wall of crazy, and the two of them
Speaker 2: spend the whole episode sort of really getting to the
Speaker 2: bottom of how Quinn Perkins got off so easily from
Speaker 2: the case that like ruined his entire life.
Speaker 1: She's a black belt in taekwondo. Who knew? Can you
Speaker 1: believe that? Yeah? And then of course she was like
Speaker 1: most people know her because she was in the Sweet
Speaker 1: Life of Zach and Cody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember sitting next to her in the
Speaker 2: hair and makeup trailer when she would come to work.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of actors, when they start off
Speaker 2: as like kid actors on the Disney Show, they're all
Speaker 2: sort of like panicked about you know, how am I
Speaker 2: gonna transition out of this? I'm a real actor, like
Speaker 2: I want to work in other ways. And then some
Speaker 2: even like kind of can rebel and be like, look,
Speaker 2: how not Disney I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Brenda has a shit load of tattoos. I'm talking
Speaker 2: like in between everything, oh yeah, in between every single
Speaker 2: finger she has a tattoo, Like in between each finger
Speaker 2: on her fingers. She has tattoos. And I remember sitting
Speaker 2: next to her in the Hair and Nagle trailer and
Speaker 2: she had to get.
Speaker 1: Them all covered covered up like.
Speaker 2: Every day because they're on her hands. Like it's something
Speaker 2: if you have a lot of tattoos on your body
Speaker 2: but you wear clothes on the show like whatever. But
Speaker 2: they were on her actual fucking hands. And I remember
Speaker 2: her saying something to the extent of like, you know,
Speaker 2: I was on a Disney show. And then I like
Speaker 2: did my phase of like I'm not a goodie two shoe,
Speaker 2: like I'm not a Disney kid.
Speaker 1: I'm not that she got tatted up. She was like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get tatted up.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. So Brenda's song and mccullay culkin are getting
Speaker 2: married after four years of dating. No, so she's getting
Speaker 2: married to mccullay culkin.
Speaker 1: Well, how like now as we speak, like this is
Speaker 1: present day, they're about to get married.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I really like that?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: Oh. On January twenty sixth, people reported that mccullay Culkin
Speaker 2: and Brenda's Song are engaged the adorable couple who welcome
Speaker 2: their first child No back in April twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Ye have most of their relationship pretty private since they
Speaker 2: started dating in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a really good Like, Oh, they kept their
Speaker 1: shit incognito. Yup, like nobody knew. I didn't know about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are two and those are some child stars. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Brenda, you were the best on our freaking show.
Speaker 1: Brenda's one of the guest stars that did come back
Speaker 1: a few times on our show, right yep?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so good, Go get a snack and we'll
Speaker 2: be right back. Okay, what is your next sections of
Speaker 2: this episode? G that you were like, this is the shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I wanted to talk really quickly about the
Speaker 1: safe house where we shot the fate. In the safe
Speaker 1: house where we take Auradie Hornbocker, it's like hucks, like
Speaker 1: the first time we see like Hucks, like you know,
Speaker 1: super like private, out of the way like safe house
Speaker 1: where we take our clients sometimes, and it was so
Speaker 1: much fun shooting there. It was always so much fun
Speaker 1: going and shooting on location because it felt like we
Speaker 1: just all had so much fun. We were like little
Speaker 1: kids when we got to leave the opia set right.
Speaker 2: That safe house was not on a stage.
Speaker 1: No, it might have been on it might have been
Speaker 1: on a stage, but it wasn't at Sunset Gower, So
Speaker 1: it was somewhere else is my mind. That's what I remember.
Speaker 2: But god, I do remember shooting it and it was
Speaker 2: so cool, like so basically this is an underground, sub
Speaker 2: level fucking thing that Olivia Popen Associates owns that you
Speaker 2: sort of it's Hucks Place or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's Hucks Place. I think it's
Speaker 1: I feel like Hucks had this spot for a minute,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But he was homeless for
Speaker 1: a while, so possibly, oh Pa Olivia paid for it
Speaker 1: and you know, to create it and to have it.
Speaker 2: But I do remember it being so cool and like
Speaker 2: they would always like add smoke to it, maybe like
Speaker 2: just so that the lighting always looked like kind of
Speaker 2: eerie and sort of like underground and like it's not
Speaker 2: so clear and it's really dark and dingy. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it was very cool. It was very very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was super fun shooting down there.
Speaker 2: So Alreaty is at the safe house, Quinn and Hawk
Speaker 2: are there watching him. Hawk is under like mad stress
Speaker 2: to like break into thorn Gate and like copy it
Speaker 2: or some shit. I don't know what hacking crap you're doing.
Speaker 2: You're doing something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well they when they first pop in
Speaker 1: that external drive that already brings to OPA, it sort
Speaker 1: of fizzles out and a firewall goes up, and now
Speaker 1: Huck has to break into that firewall so we have
Speaker 1: evidence to be able then to go to the authorities
Speaker 1: and be like, look this thorn Gate is happening and
Speaker 1: it's fucked up. Here's the evidence. So that's what Hawk
Speaker 1: is trying to do, and you know, yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: he's super stressed because it's you know, it's extremely difficult.
Speaker 2: Look at you, firewall with that fucking terminology.
Speaker 1: Big words, fire firewall.
Speaker 2: I'm so into it. I haven't said firewall since we
Speaker 2: shot Scandal. That's her damn sure. And my favorite scene
Speaker 2: of this episode, it skipping a little ahead is Fits
Speaker 2: is so pissed because they've gotten picks. He's gotten picks
Speaker 2: that Edison and Olivia are talking again. He is not
Speaker 2: happy about it, and so he summons Olivia. At five
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. The Secret Service shows up and
Speaker 2: they say, get in the fucking car and they take
Speaker 2: him her all the way out to the woods somewhere
Speaker 2: where Fitz is hunting. The scene, you know, which is
Speaker 2: for the title the episode Hunting Season is the Hottest, best, angriest,
Speaker 2: most amazing, where like Fits like puts her on a
Speaker 2: rock and takes off her high heels, puts her in boots,
Speaker 2: is like lacing him up all aggressively, and they're looking
Speaker 2: at each other with like longing and sadness and anger,
Speaker 2: and it's so complicated, and the two of them are
Speaker 2: so good. And he's got a gun and she's like,
Speaker 2: give me a gun, and he's like, no, I have
Speaker 2: a gun. And they're marching through the woods and she's
Speaker 2: following him and they're yelling at each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just so cood. It's so good. And
Speaker 1: before she gets out of the car, she's sitting in
Speaker 1: the car like I'm not getting out. Who do you
Speaker 1: think you are summoning me to wherever you are? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he says get out of the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Eddie's like, yeah, so loud, Oh my god. But it
Speaker 1: was so sexy, like you said, it was so hot.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason, like I was thinking about it,
Speaker 1: I was like, Olivia wouldn't put up with that shit.
Speaker 1: But I think the reason she finds it so hot
Speaker 1: is she's like, oh, look at fits being all tough
Speaker 1: and shit. She's like, I will fuck you up, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You go ahead and be dominant all you want, and
Speaker 1: it's hot and I'm gonna kiss you later and make out.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm gonna fuck you up
Speaker 1: if you go if you overstep, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I feel that vibe from her, like
Speaker 1: she's the ball. She's like okay, she like go ahead
Speaker 1: and yell at me.
Speaker 2: She's also like, fuck, I have to like figure out
Speaker 2: this thorn Gate ship.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, there's so many.
Speaker 2: Moving don't And he's like, don't you dare fucking look
Speaker 2: into fucking thorn Gate, Like you are fucking with national
Speaker 2: fucking security and you're being a trader to your country
Speaker 2: and she's like, you're fucking spying on people and you're
Speaker 2: a dick. And he's like, and you're going to your
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend and she's like, you know about my fuck
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend. And then without waiting too long, praise be
Speaker 2: they're making up against a fucking tree.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, on the Quickness, they're just making
Speaker 1: out on the track and like.
Speaker 2: Tom and Hall and the Secret Service just like turn
Speaker 2: their back. Yes, it's so awkward and uncomfortable and hot
Speaker 2: and wonder.
Speaker 1: It made me think, like you imagine all the shit
Speaker 1: that goes down like with presidents, right, like the shit
Speaker 1: like there's there's got to be moments where presidents are like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, this is what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: Like that scene when Fits wants to leave the White House.
Speaker 1: I forget what episode it was in, and he's just like,
Speaker 1: I need to get out and do what I want
Speaker 1: to do, just for you know, an hour or two.
Speaker 1: But it makes you think, Matt, all the shit that
Speaker 1: those Secret Service guys must see and women right.
Speaker 2: Yep, oh, I just wrote crazy Walk and Talk in
Speaker 2: the damn Woods.
Speaker 1: But and also this is where Olivia reveals to Fits
Speaker 1: that they know about the late night phone calls to
Speaker 1: the White House, right, and that's sort of what stops
Speaker 1: him to and he's like, wait a minute, like I
Speaker 1: knew about Thorngate, but I didn't know these motherfuckers were
Speaker 1: spying on me too, you know what I mean. Which
Speaker 1: we later find out that it's Cyrus right who sort
Speaker 1: of is using that shit and.
Speaker 2: The fucking Rutherford. Yeah, so he stops when he finds out, like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, they know about my personal shit boyfriend with
Speaker 2: all the details from Fits. Fits is so jealous, so
Speaker 2: so so so so jealous. That's what this is about,
Speaker 2: I think. And they make out against a tree and
Speaker 2: they're going so hard, and the Secret Service turn their
Speaker 2: back and Olivia says, I am not yours. I don't
Speaker 2: show what places because you want me, I am not yours.
Speaker 2: This is over?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good? How many times has it been over? Olivia? Goddamn?
Speaker 2: Oh well, this is just the beginning of this. This
Speaker 2: is just about podcast and be about to be Fits
Speaker 2: and Liver on. They're off, They're on, they're off, they're on,
Speaker 2: They're off.
Speaker 1: Another one of the scenes that happens a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier before this, this hunting scene, with Fits and Olivia.
Speaker 1: Is a scene with Abby and Harrison when they're going
Speaker 1: to check in on Monica, who was the supposing the
Speaker 1: other woman who knows that Aready knows about thorn Gate
Speaker 1: and took Thorngate. They're back and forth is just so good.
Speaker 1: I wrote down it's so classic buddy cop vibes. I
Speaker 1: love them together. Yeah, yeah, I wrote it's so satisfying
Speaker 1: to the ear into the eyes. It's also very when
Speaker 1: Harry met Sally. It's just that back and forth. They
Speaker 1: just mesh and meld so well together, those two characters.
Speaker 1: And of course Darby and Columbus like had the best chemistry.
Speaker 2: Ah, where is that spin off?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I want that procedural. I want that in Abby Harrison
Speaker 2: spin off Good Cop, Bad Cop. Love watching them handlecases.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, And so we find her dead. We
Speaker 1: find Monica dead. She's dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he dead? Good she did. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the fucking body count is by episode two oh
Speaker 2: three that we're at it scandal like, how many people
Speaker 2: have done it?
Speaker 1: That would be kind of a cool, like little side
Speaker 1: thing that we figure out is the body count.
Speaker 2: But I also gotta say I love the scene Fitz
Speaker 2: comes back from the hunting scene with live and he's
Speaker 2: a duck to Melly, and this whole episode he has
Speaker 2: been like nice to Melly and they've sort of been
Speaker 2: reconnecting over like designing the nursery because the baby's coming,
Speaker 2: and Melly is folding baby clothes that have been gifted
Speaker 2: to them from Queen Elizabeth, which, like Queen Elizabeth was
Speaker 2: alive at the time, Like.
Speaker 1: Right, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: To me, it's just so weird.
Speaker 1: I know. And fits is like, you know, you could
Speaker 1: get somebody to fold those clothes, and that's when she's like, no,
Speaker 1: these were gifted by the Queen. I'll fold these baby clothes.
Speaker 1: It also made me think like, oh, god, kids, I
Speaker 1: don't know how y'all do it. I was like I've
Speaker 1: said this before and I'll say it again. Listen. I
Speaker 1: got four goldfish and sometimes I'm like, I gotta feed
Speaker 1: them today again, like I'm stressed. I'm like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: fucking fish. I gotta clean this tank. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: having like live human beings running around. You got to
Speaker 1: keep them alive.
Speaker 2: Have you had a goldfish die yet?
Speaker 1: Oh? All the time. Yeah, But these have lasted. These
Speaker 1: have lasted over over a year. They're goldfish. I sometimes
Speaker 1: I've buried a couple in my backyard, but usually just
Speaker 1: flush flush.
Speaker 2: But yes, Bellamy is folding baby clothes from Queen Elizabeth
Speaker 2: and they're in a great place. Her in fits and
Speaker 2: then he goes to this hunting thing and when he
Speaker 2: comes back, he a dick. And Melly goes right up
Speaker 2: to Hal and Tom the Secret Service. She's like, what
Speaker 2: the hell happened while they were hunting?
Speaker 1: And they are quiet, and this scene, that scene is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes in this episode too.
Speaker 2: To me too.
Speaker 1: Well. She's trying to get out of them. Why She's like,
Speaker 1: why is my husband being a dick? Yes?
Speaker 2: And she's like, what tell me? Blink just blink a
Speaker 2: few times. I'm going to list a bunch of names,
Speaker 2: and you can tell me who he saw out there
Speaker 2: and why it was affected him. And she names all
Speaker 2: these people like Cyrus, his mother, all these people, and
Speaker 2: then she goes to Olivia Pope.
Speaker 1: And and Hal is like.
Speaker 2: Hal winks and old face changes and the only way
Speaker 2: that Belle and Young can do. And she's like thank you, Joan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, it's such a great, fun, fun scene. And
Speaker 1: the way Mellie says, floody r eyelashes for a girl, just.
Speaker 2: So good eyelashes. Girl. There are some moments where Bellamy's
Speaker 2: a Southern bell. I don't know very many Southern women,
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 1: I don't either know. And Bellamy, like you said, she
Speaker 1: was like the first like southern bell if you will,
Speaker 1: that I've met. But to that that level of the
Speaker 1: most loving, kind lovely person like that you can meet.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, And they write to.
Speaker 1: That, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: And then I wrote down Olivia Show's network had Thorngate
Speaker 2: his wife at home. Oh oh oh right. So then
Speaker 2: she calls in all the these big dogs and to prove,
Speaker 2: like Thorngate is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Isn't it the network people, doesn't she call? Is it
Speaker 1: the network people?
Speaker 2: It is? Yes, yes, yes, yes, because they're like.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna show this ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's the people. We're gonna tell the American people,
Speaker 2: essentially on primetime news, yes, that this ship is going down.
Speaker 1: And then so Olivia tells Huck Show the footage, and
Speaker 1: it's footage like you were saying, of this, this head
Speaker 1: of the network's wife with their baby and talking to
Speaker 1: her friend and he's like, oh my god, that's like
Speaker 1: my bedroom and my wife. You know, this is a real.
Speaker 2: Thing about him.
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, he could, he could maybe go
Speaker 1: to the gym once in a while. He's like, shut
Speaker 1: it down, turn it off. I get it.
Speaker 2: In my head. She's like, my husband's dick is flaccid,
Speaker 2: like no viagraa's working. I'm so not satisfied in the bedroom.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was that it's something in that ere not something.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I know it's real.
Speaker 2: And then I just wrote we find out that wait,
Speaker 2: I have to pee. I'm gonna pee my pants. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll be right back after I go peepee, and we're
Speaker 2: back from that quick pee pee break. So now, so
Speaker 2: now what happens? Okay, already, Oh we find out that
Speaker 2: already killed Monica. Oh, this is when this whole fucking
Speaker 2: we find out that shit goes down has been had.
Speaker 1: Yes, he sure has all by grilled cheese, the demise.
Speaker 1: It was the grilled cheese though grilled cheese demise.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, so what happens You're like making lunch or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Artie's making grilled cheese, and Hawk is sort
Speaker 1: of you know, he's he's hacked into the firewall, and
Speaker 1: he's he's happy that he was able to do any
Speaker 1: didn't take twenty two days, as he stated earlier in
Speaker 1: the episode. And then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: a smoke alarm starts going off, and Huck gets up
Speaker 1: from away his from his computer and goes to open
Speaker 1: the window. And then we see that Already goes to
Speaker 1: Huck's computer and pulls out the external drive and puts
Speaker 1: it in his pocket and leaves, and Huck was hoodly
Speaker 1: winked Hoodley win Wells. Hut thinks at first that Already's
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom, so Already goes to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: closes the door, and then he gets a call from
Speaker 1: Olivia and Olivia's like, where's already he And Huck is like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's in the bathroom again, and Olivia's like, break down
Speaker 1: the door, break down the door. Yeah, yo, can I
Speaker 1: just say really fast? I low key like thought I
Speaker 1: had dislocated my shoulder in this scene because I had
Speaker 1: to keep banging into that door. I'm not even kidding,
Speaker 1: and my shit was like look, and you know, I
Speaker 1: was trying to keep it together because I was like
Speaker 1: I can't stop like shooting and be like you, guys,
Speaker 1: I think I dislocated my shoulder. It was so freaking bad.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Guermo, you poor fucking actors are so
Speaker 2: fucking stupid. Like, of course, like the first couple takes,
Speaker 2: you're like so like you're so into it and you're
Speaker 2: you're like acting the shit out of the scene, so
Speaker 2: like you're gonna like I'm gonna fucking break down the door,
Speaker 2: and like Olivia's yelling at you and ye no.
Speaker 1: But bus how it was for me, it was like
Speaker 1: the second take, I was like, oh, there it goes
Speaker 1: my shoulder. Oh my god. And Ron was like one
Speaker 1: more time anyway. I was fine, it wasn't dislocated, but it.
Speaker 2: Felt like stil you really committed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now Artie's on the lamb. Artie's gone, right.
Speaker 2: Artie's gone. He's got all the information. He's literally the
Speaker 2: most powerful person in the universe. He can spy on
Speaker 2: anybody at any time. And all I wrote after that
Speaker 2: is Abby says her, how did this happen? Abby's talking
Speaker 2: to Olivia like, no, you've made two mistakes. This mistake
Speaker 2: on already fucking Hornbocker, who just fucking hoodly winked us
Speaker 2: and Lindsey fucking Dwyer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ship, yeah, I know, get over it a get
Speaker 1: over can we can we talk about Have we talked
Speaker 1: about this scene yet, that scene where where Mellie says
Speaker 1: that memorable line get over her fit?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's kind of We're getting to that the next one.
Speaker 2: But wait, wait, wait, wait really quick. Right before that,
Speaker 2: they come to get us at Olivia popan Associates, and
Speaker 2: all I wrote down was that we are standing in
Speaker 2: key formation people like they open up the doors to
Speaker 2: get us, and like it's the office. We're essentially making
Speaker 2: like a diamond. Yes, And I don't remember if it
Speaker 2: was this episode or another episode, but whenever we were
Speaker 2: like standing in that formation and had to stand in
Speaker 2: it forever because shooting takes so long, I feel like
Speaker 2: we were trying to make like dance routines happen, because
Speaker 2: it felt like we were in a music video formation.
Speaker 1: I think that's in the blooper reel too, where we're
Speaker 1: in that formation and we're all like busting out dancing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have.
Speaker 2: To post that when the episode comes out and watch
Speaker 2: it because whenever I see Olivia Popanasosi's in a shot
Speaker 2: where we're in like standing formation I heard. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: always were like and this is when we do Rhythm Nation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then we get into we switch back over to
Speaker 2: the White House and Mellie has the best fucking scene ever.
Speaker 2: She's been stewing and brewing because Fitz has been a
Speaker 2: dick since he got back from hunting season with Olivia,
Speaker 2: and she says get over.
Speaker 1: And Fitz says something.
Speaker 2: Like, well, I don't know what get over her, guero.
Speaker 2: I am so fucking impressed by your impression of that,
Speaker 2: Like I just did it once and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to talk for a week.
Speaker 2: And then she says, you see her again, I'll blow
Speaker 2: you away, and I'm an excellent shot.
Speaker 1: Oh the way she delivers that line too, she does
Speaker 1: it with like sort of with a relish, right and
Speaker 1: sort of with a smile and a smirk. I'll blow
Speaker 1: like sea, I'm an excellent.
Speaker 2: So good, she's so like, you know, obviously, the whole
Speaker 2: episode is about hunting and all these metaphors for hunting
Speaker 2: season and shooting, and we get to Huck finds Arty
Speaker 2: and rot Row got his toolbox or however you say
Speaker 2: toolbox and.
Speaker 1: Es Yeah, very good, but it's one of the one
Speaker 1: of the one of the first times on the show,
Speaker 1: right that we see the toolbox. We see it in
Speaker 1: season one, but I think this is this might be
Speaker 1: the second time where we see that infamous red toolbox.
Speaker 2: And then the bitch baby starts to run away and
Speaker 2: g is like, I'm gonna dart your ass.
Speaker 1: I'm a doctor ass with his fucking sleepy dart. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but first we find we we realize that Huck
Speaker 1: has tracked Artie because Artie stole one of Huck's watches,
Speaker 1: which a little side note, a little fun fun fact,
Speaker 1: Huck would keep the watches of the people that he
Speaker 1: would torture and murder, so he has like boxes full
Speaker 1: of these watches. I don't know if you remember that case.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 1: Arty Farty is still one of Huck's watches, which have radium,
Speaker 1: which is really easy to track. And that's how Huck
Speaker 1: found AREDI.
Speaker 2: Far party, you fucking moron.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait where I did it say in the script that
Speaker 2: Huck takes the watches of his No.
Speaker 1: That's from seven fifty two. We don't find that out
Speaker 1: seven fifty Yeah, but but the writers and the you know,
Speaker 1: they already knew about that. I'm assuming because in this
Speaker 1: in this episode, he has that box full of watches
Speaker 1: that already pulls out, and Huck is like, don't fuck
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: That it, Yeah, I love it. Then we get we
Speaker 2: cut to the bar and we've got the line that
Speaker 2: the best We're standing at the bar me Darby in
Speaker 2: the middle, Harrison on the end, and Quinn is like, god,
Speaker 2: man already fucking had us. Man, he fucking it was
Speaker 2: perfect and we he fucked us, like, holy shit, that
Speaker 2: was unbelievable how he did it. And then Addy says, yeah,
Speaker 2: it takes one to know one. And I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, screw you, fucking screw you, screw your fucking
Speaker 2: mother's mother, screw your father and everybody. Screw yourself. Straight
Speaker 2: to hell.
Speaker 1: Hell want yourself there again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to hell and screw yourself because I'm fucking
Speaker 2: done with this. I am not Lindsay, I am Quinn,
Speaker 2: and I am here to stay. And then Harrison so
Speaker 2: beautifully says, I'm Quinn bitch, which is so good tag
Speaker 2: on Twitter. That's my experience, like any single time for
Speaker 2: the next seven seasons, eight years of my life, anytime
Speaker 2: Quinn fucking kicked ass. It was a hashtag I'm Quinn
Speaker 2: grateful to Maddy Burne and the Scandal riders for that
Speaker 2: gift because it was the best well and it was also.
Speaker 1: A little you know, a little nod, a little salute
Speaker 1: to Britney Spears because in Britain Spears says, I'm Britney bitch.
Speaker 2: I'm Quinn bitch. Happens it's the best. And Edison says
Speaker 2: he's his client now because they've kicked him off the
Speaker 2: intelligence team. Huck says that he didn't hurt Artie and
Speaker 2: that he's handling much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, I didn't hurt him too much, so
Speaker 1: you know, he did some a little bit of damage,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and Olivia is a little bit concerned that
Speaker 1: she sort of opened this door, this torturing door, but
Speaker 1: Hock is like, no, no, I'm good, I got this.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: And the episode fucking ends with Rosen and Abby going
Speaker 2: to bone Town.
Speaker 1: Going to bone Town, everybody, and that's where Abby and
Speaker 1: Rosen went.
Speaker 2: They're going to bone Town, and it seems like it's
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the like the Gladiators lost their
Speaker 1: shit in this in this scene, right, at the end
Speaker 1: of this episode, because it was like, what, I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone expected that. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: For these Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: When we read it at the table read we were
Speaker 2: like what, yeah, it was a total total left field
Speaker 2: shocker shock shock shock.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's the beginning of their amazing, interesting relationship, exciting relationship.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. Tweetwee twet twet twetwee
Speaker 2: tweetwee tweets at the time.
Speaker 1: All right, yoll, let's get into our favorite.
Speaker 2: The tweets of the time are getting good.
Speaker 1: Guys, they are getting good. They're getting better. I'm really
Speaker 1: happy with these. There's a couple that I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is so good. Katie tweeted, my besties are coming over
Speaker 1: for popcorn and wine with their Grays ABC and Scandal ABC.
Speaker 1: How will you be watching?
Speaker 2: Oh god, somebody beat me up. Gross. That's such a
Speaker 2: goodie too. Shoe tweet like, I was like, ew, that's
Speaker 2: so gross. It's like, okay, everybody, my besties are coming over. God, gross.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: At Jess Florence writes, it's been weird, like seeing a
Speaker 2: grandma and bikini or a Democrat with a Bible hashtag
Speaker 2: scandal hashtag hileius and then at Sharif Jackson wrote, longest
Speaker 2: shoelacing scene ever hashtag scandal. I bet that's true. I
Speaker 2: think if we went in the Guinness Book of World
Speaker 2: Records for any scene on television that had shoelacing going on,
Speaker 2: that that was probably the longest one.
Speaker 1: But also so like sexual, so sexy, and it was
Speaker 1: merely the act of you know, tying her shoelaces, but
Speaker 1: it was still filled with so much sexual tension.
Speaker 2: Listen to this one. Why are they so surprised they
Speaker 2: know about the Olivia prezy horny night calls? Hashtag scandal.
Speaker 2: Olivia and President both scream at each other and are unstable.
Speaker 2: Just get a room again hashtag scandal.
Speaker 1: Peachy j said, but how does the president kiss Olivia
Speaker 1: Pope in front of his secret service hashtaig scandal? How
Speaker 1: else is he going to do it? His secret service
Speaker 1: is around him? Twenty four seven my gig, because he
Speaker 1: he just wants that.
Speaker 2: He just wants that them beautiful Olivia Pope lips on
Speaker 2: his lips and he doesn't care who wants to watch it,
Speaker 2: Like he is like clown. Yeah, he's down to Clown.
Speaker 2: Episode two oh four is next week. Episode two O
Speaker 2: four is titled belt Way Unbuckle.
Speaker 1: Oh, I remember.
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Speaker 2: How do we wrap out?
Speaker 1: Oh?
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