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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make sense of what takes so

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Speaker 3: We knew last night after the egg ball.

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Speaker 2: That we would get some sort of or at least

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Speaker 2: we thought, some sort of decision on what everything was

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Speaker 2: gonna happen with Lane Kiffen and whether or not he

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Speaker 2: would remain at Ole Miss or whether or not he

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Speaker 2: would become the coach at LSU. And instead we've spent

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Speaker 2: all day waiting for more information.

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Speaker 3: And I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: At some point, how many hours can it take to

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Speaker 2: make a decision At some point, how many days do

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Speaker 2: you need? At some point, don't we all have to

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Speaker 2: move on? Most importantly, at some point, don't we get

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Speaker 2: to talk about anything other than Lane? And the answer

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Speaker 2: to that is not until he tells us what's going on,

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Speaker 2: which we still don't know. He's Buck rising up Jason

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Speaker 2: fitz bucking fits Fox Sports Radio, hanging out with you

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Speaker 2: on a Fox Sports Saturday, and Buck, I thought for

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Speaker 2: sure by six pm Eastern on the Saturday show, we'd

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Speaker 2: start by talking about Lane with LSU, or what it

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Speaker 3: Or what it meant for Ole Miss.

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Speaker 2: Did they manage to keep their team their coach with

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, like all of these different variables, But instead

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Speaker 2: we sit here in the worst spot we could possibly be.

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Speaker 2: We're still in no man's land. Like, dude, we have

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Speaker 2: no idea what's going to happen with a college football

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Speaker 2: at that point now where to me, it's just become

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Speaker 1: And here I thought we were going to open the

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Speaker 1: show with the egregious and terrible snub that was committed

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Speaker 1: this week. And I'm sure, of course all of you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, where Alex Earl was robbed

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Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars. She should have won the

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Speaker 1: Mirror Ball. I don't care if Steve Irwin's son is

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Speaker 1: charismatic and exciting and all of these things. It was

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Speaker 1: a snub fitsy and Braxton Barrios hasn't been to one

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Speaker 1: taping of that damn show controversy in one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest relationships going right now. I thought that's where you

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Speaker 2: This show is still I really genuinely didn't know Dancing

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Speaker 2: with the Stars was still on. This is this is

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Speaker 2: amazing like Steve Irwins, Steve Irwin's kid won.

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Speaker 3: Is that that's okay?

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Speaker 4: My sister made me watch this weather, so yeah, I

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Speaker 4: was surprised as well. My sister really was like telling

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Speaker 4: me that Alex Earl was going to win.

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Speaker 3: Is it on like regular TV? Ors Are it on

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Speaker 3: like just.

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Speaker 5: Months?

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's must watch television on a Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: Shame on you, uh for not participating in the rest

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Speaker 1: of the country's dialogue. Again, there is controversy or uh

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Speaker 1: derision being created between Texan's wide receiver slash special teamer

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Speaker 1: Braxon Barrios Alex Earl and the relationship because he has

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Speaker 1: not shown up for a single taping. Shame on him

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Speaker 1: for not taking time out of his football season schedule

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Speaker 1: to go watch his girlfriend dance with another man. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's all over the internet fits all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Much like Lane Kiffin, I'm still dumbfounded by the fact

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Speaker 2: that Dancing with the Stars is still on.

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Speaker 3: I no one idea like you've given me.

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Speaker 2: This controverts I feel Look, this is a me problem,

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Speaker 2: not a you problem, I will admit, especially this time

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Speaker 2: of the year, I just become eyes gloss over to everything.

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Speaker 3: I'll admit that book like I've missed out on this.

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Speaker 3: I expect full breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Let me know who the worst and the best were,

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Speaker 2: and is this the least deserving champion since Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 2: That's the only because I am old enough to remember

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Speaker 2: when Bobby Bones broke Dancing with the Stars because everybody

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Speaker 2: clearly knew he couldn't dance, but he still won the

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Speaker 2: thing because he was very popular. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I don't know. I feel like I've been missing.

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Speaker 2: I didn't raise as Alfonso Roberto is still the host.

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Speaker 1: Yes he is, Yes, look at this. He looks fantastic

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Speaker 1: so much like Alex Earl. And the snub is the controversy,

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Speaker 1: the drama being perpetuated on the internet for much of

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I can say the word that

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin was called on the radio? Am I allowed

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Speaker 1: to me? And that is that a you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I was wondering that myself, actually, But we will

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Speaker 4: have we will have that answer by the end of

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Speaker 6: Don't say that yet, I'll say that.

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Speaker 1: I won't. We can talk in terms of gardening tools

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Speaker 1: if we like. But I am over the entire Lane

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Speaker 1: Kiffin experience because it just it's become, it's taken on

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Speaker 1: not important thing. It's important in twenty twenty six where

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin coaches, and I understand why it's important for

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Speaker 1: LSU and Ole miss and Florida potentially who are sounds

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Speaker 1: like narrowing narrowing things down to the two Lane coach

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Speaker 1: John Summer all according to Pete Thamil's reporting today. So

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Speaker 1: maybe LSU is getting boxed out of a potential candidate.

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Speaker 1: If Lane just decided, yeah, you know, I'm good, I'll

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Speaker 1: because it is about the less important thing, which is

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss. Who the hell is going to be coaching

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Speaker 1: them through the playoff at this point in time? They

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Speaker 1: are going to make the college football playoff? Is that

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Speaker 1: what we're still waiting around trying to figure out if

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Speaker 1: the athletic director is going to allow Lane Kiffin to

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Speaker 1: both take one job in the same conference at a

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Speaker 1: rival school. I know Ole Miss and LSU aren't necessarily rivals,

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Speaker 1: my eyes glaze over equally with the Dancing with the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think where my eyes don't blossover a is

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Speaker 2: college football Playoff Committee. I would argue, as I had before,

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Speaker 2: What's alarming to me is when I hear Marty Smith,

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Speaker 2: hear Marty Smith talking about the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: right now he has spent the day he being Lane

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Speaker 2: who's even gonna be left on this staff if he

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Speaker 2: chooses to take another job, Because it's not just Lane,

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Speaker 2: it's anybody else that Lane is taking with him that

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Speaker 2: becomes part of this conversation. So I think part of

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Speaker 2: the reason it becomes baffling to me is that you

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Speaker 2: whatever game plan is being worked on, whatever their plan

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Speaker 2: the hell are you prepping for another game? Not even

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Speaker 2: just a playoff. How are you prepping for another game

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Speaker 2: right now? If you don't know who your staff is

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Speaker 1: It's I guess the It's really difficult, right because Lane

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Speaker 1: doesn't call the plays, does he?

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Speaker 3: I'd buy? I think you know what? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up. I thought he'd I don't believe

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Speaker 1: he does, at least not this year.

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Speaker 5: More.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's gonna murder me for not knowing this off

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Speaker 3: the time. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a fair question because, well, just

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Speaker 1: given the dialogue that you're having right now about how

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Speaker 1: could you possibly prepare a game plan? Of course, the

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Speaker 1: difference between Lane Kiffen calling the plays and not calling

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Speaker 1: the plays in this situation would be critical because I

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Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that question fitsy. I assume

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Speaker 1: it's the way that NFL teams, the Giants and the Titans,

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Speaker 1: two teams that have fired their coaching season and kept

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Speaker 1: the rest of the staff around. You just go about

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Speaker 1: during Old Miss games that I've seen this season, he

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Speaker 1: But I don't believe he's actively calling the place this year.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it looks like you're correct. It looks like

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Speaker 2: he would presumably be taking with him to his LSU

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Speaker 1: That's where this just gets really Yeah no, that's the

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Speaker 1: only part of this. Who else is going with him? Right?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing Buck like, I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: there's a fair and reasonable without attacking him the way

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Speaker 2: personal too, I think there's a fair and reasonable I

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Speaker 2: ask you, well, I mean, okay, look, I think there's

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Speaker 2: a fair and reasonable way to ask what's the hold.

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Speaker 3: Up on your decision?

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Speaker 2: Because at some point you can't be afraid of commitment

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Speaker 2: and be a college football coach.

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Speaker 3: You just gotta go.

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Speaker 2: You got to decide what you're gonna do, and you

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Speaker 2: got to go. And I realized that this is not

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Speaker 2: an easy decision. I'm not pretending it's an easy decision,

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Speaker 2: but at some point, you just sort of hit the

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Speaker 2: line in the sand, don't you. I mean, it isn't

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Speaker 2: there a point where Lane Kiffin has to know, like

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Speaker 2: there's no new data that's going to come to Lane.

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Speaker 2: So do I really want for my favorite college football team?

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Speaker 2: Whether I was an Ole Miss fan or an LSU fan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I saw his tweet and I believe it

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Speaker 2: was is. I didn't dig through you know how Twitter

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Speaker 2: is hard to figure out, but his tweet basically showing

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Speaker 2: the egg Bowl trophy and saying, wish that, you know,

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Speaker 2: wish I could talk to my dad here before I pray.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: I get all that, But like, if God hasn't given

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Speaker 2: you an answer yet, like what exactly? Like at some

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Speaker 2: point you can keep asking God out all day long

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Speaker 3: Somebody tweeted me a conspiracy theory. I've heard many, many.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put myself together.

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Speaker 2: He's Buck rising up Jason Fitz's bucking fits on Fox

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Speaker 3: Piag me ey the curtain. As we're coming back.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Mary mack informs us that we're nasty, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, tell them what you said. Mary.

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Speaker 1: I can't feel it.

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Speaker 3: My poems like when you.

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Speaker 2: Get that thing stuck between your back teeth, it's just

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Speaker 3: It's problem.

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Speaker 1: Wait, why why is it nasty? Mary? How do you

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Speaker 6: I was a braceist kid, so I didn't eat popcorn.

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Speaker 1: No, imagine having imagine having poverty teeth till the point

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Speaker 2: Has What What if Kayln just wants to pen Stae up.

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Speaker 2: I don't need Betty and Alabama calling for me to

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Speaker 3: That's fair. That okay, that is fair.

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Speaker 1: Also, why are you trying to breathe life into that stupidity?

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Speaker 1: Stop it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Because I like just flaming everybody up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I like just getting everybody angry. This is the one

442
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Speaker 2: part of the logistics that I think for anybody that

443
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Speaker 2: because I've seen this theory on Alabama several times, the

444
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 2: number of hoops that would have to be jumped through

445
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Speaker 2: in order for Lane to take that job is something

446
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: that would put all of these announcements on hold for days,

447
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Speaker 2: maybe a week. I mean, it would take so much

448
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: time to figure out how one coach is getting out

449
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: and then what it means for the other coach, and

450
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Speaker 2: then a renegotiation process. Like I just think the schematics

451
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: of that, Like there are no backroom deals right now

452
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 2: with Lane if in Alabama, simply because if there were,

453
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: nobody could keep a secret. Like if Thamill had a

454
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: backroom dealing, there'd be in some sort of moment here

455
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: like if Buddy Garrity, like if your Friday Night lights

456
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: backer has already paid it.

457
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Speaker 3: Somebody's leaking this somewhere, And frankly.

458
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Speaker 2: I think if Alabama just wanted to kill the deal

459
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: with LSU, the easiest way to do that would be

460
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Speaker 2: to leak anything substantial that shows that you've actually got

461
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Speaker 2: a deal working it with Lane on your on the side.

462
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Speaker 3: So when you actually stack the bricks of logic, I

463
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Speaker 3: don't think it gets there.

464
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Speaker 2: I think though, part of the reason this runs rampant

465
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Speaker 2: is a college football fans are undefeated with conspiracy theories,

466
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 2: and b nobody can really figure out why it's taking

467
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Speaker 2: forever to get an announcement, so then we start grasping

468
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Speaker 2: its straws.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the thing. The more time that passes, the

471
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Speaker 1: more that the environment can foster this kind of nonsense, right,

472
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Speaker 1: because there simply is no good reason why Lane Kiffin

473
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Speaker 1: hasn't declared one way or the other which job he

474
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Speaker 1: wants to take or stick with. There is no reason

475
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Speaker 1: that makes sense that it would drag on this long

476
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Speaker 1: that I mean, are we going on damn near a

477
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Speaker 1: month of Kiff and watch at this point in time.

478
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Speaker 1: It's outrageous, and I just I can't fathom what the

479
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Speaker 1: athletic Department must be thinking it'll miss allowing this to

480
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Speaker 1: drag out. I don't know what the hell they were

481
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Speaker 1: doing making that statement in the first place, putting some

482
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Speaker 1: level of expectation on the egg Bowl that there would

483
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Speaker 1: be a decision coming one way or the other, when

484
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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has been an I don't want to say

485
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Speaker 1: an uncontrollable variable. I think that Lane Kiffin is represented

486
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Speaker 1: by Jimmy Sexton, and Jimmy Sexton has a formula, right,

487
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Speaker 1: and so this is not something that is just It's

488
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Speaker 1: not It's not going to be without calculation or without

489
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Speaker 1: thorough thought and planning and preparation and all of these things.

490
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Speaker 1: So that's why when they put the statement out there

491
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Speaker 1: the way that they did that there would be a

492
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Speaker 1: decision announced after the Egg Bowl on lane Kiffin's future,

493
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Speaker 1: it didn't make any damn sense to me. It was

494
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Speaker 1: like Olmoss was trying to retake control of the narrative,

495
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Speaker 1: a narrative in which they have absolutely no control.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all of this is just so broken this

497
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Speaker 2: whole process. Like I said, I believe to you on Thursday,

498
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Speaker 2: my biggest hope was that we got an answer directly

499
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Speaker 2: after a Wednesday. My biggest hope was that we got

500
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Speaker 2: an answer directly after the egg Bowl so that it

501
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Speaker 2: didn't LRD over.

502
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Speaker 3: An entire Saturday. And that's exactly what it's done. Now.

503
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Speaker 3: That's far Beau.

504
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Speaker 1: It's completely taken up all the oxygen around such a

505
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 1: fun weekend of college football. Everything has been about Lane.

506
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Speaker 1: For God's sakes, Marty Smith is somewhere in America still

507
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Speaker 1: on Lane Kiffin Watch. Let that man have a break

508
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: and watch actual football.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's for everybody that wants to tell me

510
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin has changed and Lane Kiffin is different, and yeah,

511
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Speaker 2: I think you've got to bend over backwards to try

512
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: and find that in this moment, because it certainly feels

513
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: like the same ego driven I must be all of

514
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: the oxygen in the room, sort of drive for attention

515
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: and all of this. And if you want to argue

516
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: it's not him, it's his agent, I will. My counter

517
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: argument to that has always been is somebody that's been

518
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: lucky enough in my life to have agents in every step.

519
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: At some point your agent represents you like you can

520
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: sit there and blame your agent all day, but also

521
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: that's why you fire your agent. If your agent doesn't

522
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: represent you the way you want to be represented, then

523
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 2: you fire your agent. So I'm not gonna put all

524
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Speaker 2: this on Jimmy Sexton. I'm not gonna put all this

525
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: on the calendar of college football right now. What it

526
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: appears from the outside looking in, we have is a

527
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Speaker 2: grown ass man incapable of making a grown ass man decision.

528
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Speaker 2: And it's really hard, and no matter what, it's win win,

529
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Speaker 2: and no matter what it's lose lose. But at some

530
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: point there are so many people impacted. He just needs

531
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Speaker 2: to make a decision. All right, Oh good, well, look,

532
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: hold your thought. Let's get an update. Hold your thought,

533
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. We'll get an update from Martin, and

534
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: then Buck has something brilliant he will share with the world.

535
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Speaker 3: We'll do that next. But first, Mark Weiskus is caught

536
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Speaker 3: up showing on.

537
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Speaker 5: Washington. Just found the end zone.

538
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Speaker 9: Extra point pending, but they've cut the Oregon lead to six.

539
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 5: It's now nineteen to thirteen.

540
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 9: Demond Williams to Boston for a thirteen yard touchdown catch.

541
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Speaker 5: At nine minutes left in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 9: Again, extra point pending there, but that's Washington's first score

543
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Speaker 9: of the second half. With just under thirteen under twelve

544
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Speaker 9: minutes left in the fourth quarter, Lis, you just converted

545
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Speaker 9: a third down. It's now ten to ten, second and

546
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Speaker 9: five for the Tigers as quarterback Martin van buren Is

547
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Speaker 9: completes another first down for this against this Oklahoma defense,

548
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Speaker 9: John Matziir has three interceptions today. Oklahoma offense has not

549
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Speaker 9: been able to get things going.

550
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Speaker 5: Vanderbilt and Tennessee.

551
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Speaker 9: Right now, the Commodours with the lead and the ball

552
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Speaker 9: thirty one to twenty four with just under twelve minutes

553
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Speaker 9: left in the.

554
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Speaker 5: First fourth quarter.

555
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Speaker 9: Diego Polavia fourteen for twenty three, two oh seven through

556
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Speaker 9: the air and a touchdown, ADS once h sixteen carriages

557
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 9: for one to fourteen on the ground. Earlier today rivalry

558
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Speaker 9: we we saw number one Ohio State beat Michigan, Ohio

559
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 9: State remaining undefeated twenty seven to nine. Julian Saying two

560
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Speaker 9: thirty three through the air and three touchdowns. Bo Jackson

561
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Speaker 9: had one seventeen on the ground. Texas Tech demileis West

562
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Speaker 9: Virginia forty nine to nothing BYU with a forty one

563
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Speaker 9: to twenty one win over UCF eleventh ranked Cougars and

564
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Speaker 9: twelve ranked Hurricanes. Miami trying to sneak it to the

565
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Speaker 9: college football playoffs. They beat Pittsburgh thirty eight to seven

566
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Speaker 9: earlier today, cars it back with three touchdowns.

567
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Speaker 5: Fellas back to you, all right.

568
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Speaker 2: Buck you we're gonna say something here is we're breaking

569
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Speaker 2: down the why of still having Lane involved in this

570
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: conversation where I cut you off?

571
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Speaker 3: What did you have?

572
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Speaker 8: No?

573
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Speaker 1: I apologize because I know that we have the update

574
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Speaker 1: to get to, so I didn't want to run through

575
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Speaker 1: it that way. But I was just thinking, like I

576
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: watched game day to day, and I watched a lot

577
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Speaker 1: of the pre and half and studio coverage from ESPN,

578
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: and this is not it's not related to ESPN. These

579
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Speaker 1: people just happened to be on ESPN because ESPN is

580
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: broadcasting these games, and obviously the Lane Kiffin a great

581
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: deal of these games, and Lane Kiffin has obviously taken

582
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: up a lot of air and it's polarizing. It's a topic.

583
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: Obviously we've spent you know, the first day, near thirty

584
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: four minutes of the show talking about Lane Kiffin where

585
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: no decision has been made, and we've been doing this

586
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Speaker 1: for week after week after week. But I'm watching game

587
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: day to day, and I don't have a problem necessarily

588
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: with Sabin or Herb Street or Booger McFarlane defending Lane

589
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Kiffin's right essentially to coach his team through the playoff

590
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: the way that the three of them, and I'm sure

591
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: they're not the only three, but those are the three

592
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: biggest examples that I saw today. I've got no problem

593
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: with that if that's the position that they want to take.

594
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: But I I almost have to do the what aboutism

595
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: of what if it was Trinidad Chambliss, the quarterback of

596
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: ole Miss? What if he's got a fat and il

597
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: deal somewhere on the table somewhere else, but for whatever reason,

598
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: the decision has to be made that Trinidad Chambliss will

599
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: transfer or will commit to transferring before ole Miss goes

600
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: into the college football Playoff. What would be the dialogue

601
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: around a player doing this exact same thing, holding everybody

602
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: else hostage as they make their decision here, how whether

603
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: he would leave his current school and skip the Rebels

604
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: games and the upcoming college football playoff? Like whatever that

605
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: would look like, on the player's side of things, how

606
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: in the world can you justify defending Lane Kiffin when

607
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I know, damn sure to a man, all three of

608
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: those people and the rest of collective college football media

609
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: would be crushing Trinidad Chambliss because they'd throw their hands

610
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: up in the air and say, Oh, it's just another Niko,

611
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: somebody who's trying to over leverage his position. It's a

612
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: it's a greedy athlete out to get what's theirs, or

613
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: it's a greedy family of an athlete out to get

614
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 1: what's theirs. Everybody else be damned. I just don't know

615
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: how the two how we can exist in a world

616
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: where that is turned a blind eye to on Lane

617
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Speaker 1: because remember the whole Lane Kiffin is is projecting rehabilitation right,

618
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: both professionally, personally, all these different things. Hell, ESPN just

619
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Speaker 1: recently did the did you watch the thirty for thirty

620
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: on Lane? It's basically, I.

621
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: Know, I'm familiar with it. I just chose not to

622
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: watch it.

623
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a it's a disneyfied version of a redemption story.

624
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: And that's fine. Like if Lane, if Lane has truly

625
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: changed so many of those different elements that made him,

626
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, frankly a bit toxic as a person en

627
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: route to being the person that he is today. That's great,

628
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: but ESPN has also lent themselves to the narrative that

629
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin rehabilitated, great guy now all these different things,

630
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that that can't still be true,

631
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: but it's just I don't know. The conflicts are everywhere

632
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: in this discussion, and maybe maybe it's just the fact

633
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: that nobody really knows how to handle this situation. But

634
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't help but look around at the

635
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: coverage at this and just be like, something doesn't pass

636
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the sniff test on this, not just what Lane's doing,

637
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: but all the different voices behind Lane or around Lane

638
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: or projecting on behalf a Lane. I just I don't

639
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: like it.

640
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean Nick Saban sitting here saying Lane should be

641
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: allowed to coach. Nick Saban also did not allow Lane

642
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: to be his offensive coordinator when Lane took a head

643
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: coaching job, right, So the hypocrisy everywhere is just it's

644
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: gross why And I'm willing to admit that part of

645
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: what makes this difficult is that nobody knows the right

646
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: way to handle this as I'm stressed before, and we

647
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: should stress to anybody. So I've gotten a ton of

648
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: text from this from buddies that are just casual college

649
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: football fans when they say why not let him coach

650
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Part of the reason that becomes wildly

651
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: difficult is that National Signing Day transfer portal window. Those

652
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: are all things that are about to open up. They

653
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: all happen in the next two weeks, right, so, all

654
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, while Ole Miss is preparing for the

655
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: college football playoff, Lane would have to then be recruiting

656
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: kids to go play at LSU. And if LSU is

657
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: paying him ninety million dollars, they're not paying him to

658
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: build a program over the course of the next several years.

659
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: They're paying him to build a program that is competitive

660
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: next season. And in order to do that, he's going

661
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: to have to stack his roster right now.

662
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: Now. For everyone, including Nick Saban that said on.

663
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Game day, you just changed this calendar, number one, that

664
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't impact today, right, There's nothing they could do about

665
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: this now. You could try and change it in the future.

666
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: But number two, if you move the calendar back to

667
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: after the national Championship game, to make it the time

668
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: for signing and transferring. You've missed the enrollment window because

669
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: these are still teams affiliated with colleges, so they're already

670
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: into the semester. So you can't suddenly enroll somebody a

671
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: month and a half into the semester. That's why the

672
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: calendar is what it is. So there's no easy solution

673
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: to this. The system is simply broken. And now or

674
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: everybody says, yeah, yeah, you gotta let him coach out

675
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs. You got to do that. Okay, Well, he's

676
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: if he takes the LSU job. He's taking the LSU

677
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: job because he's getting, according to reports, ninety million dollars

678
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: to go do at s LSU. Right now. What he's

679
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: built in ole Miss, he's not going to have three

680
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: months or two months or however long to wait to

681
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: start this process, you know what I mean. Like, he's

682
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: got to go get to work today and every day

683
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: he's in the ole Miss facility where he's actually about

684
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: to be the head coach of LSU. Every time he's

685
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: talking to a kid in his locker, you gotta wonder,

686
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: is he talking to him about this game or is

687
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: he talking to him about next season?

688
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Is he talking to when he's like.

689
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: This, this is just this is part of what makes

690
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: this type of stuff.

691
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Come on with me, boys, We'll go win a Natty

692
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: at LSU. We've reached our ceiling here. Let's take our

693
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: talents to baton ruers that would be creating.

694
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: And that's but that's that's why this is all. There's

695
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: only one real solution. If Lane Kiffin is going to

696
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: be the coach of LSU, he needs to quit and

697
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: he needs to go become the coach of LSU. And

698
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: if he's gonna do that, there's no easy way.

699
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: To do that. There's no good way to do that. Buck.

700
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: But the way we're watching it isn't right.

701
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pretend to know the best way. But

702
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: anybody that's ever had to quit a job, anybody that's

703
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: ever had to leave something, it's a very difficult situation

704
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: to do.

705
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: But you just got to rip off.

706
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: The band aid and make the jump, and maybe everybody

707
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: around you doesn't understand it, and maybe frankly, everybody around

708
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: you doesn't like you for it. I've left successful projects

709
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: and people thought I'd lost my damn mind. And sometimes

710
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: you just have to deal with the fact that like, hey,

711
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: people are gonna see me some kind of way. I

712
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: got to do what's best for my family. Lane's got

713
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: to stand up at some point and announce what that

714
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: decision is, because this dragging everybody through the mudget isn't

715
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: fair to anybody involved in the process.

716
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's not the biggest sticking point right now.

717
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked around it to some extent, but

718
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: the idea that maybe ole Miss wants him, and again,

719
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: this is just a complete hypothe This is not obviously

720
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: reporting or any kind of information that's that's worth, you know,

721
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: thinking of other than what if, right, what if all

722
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Miss wants him to coach through the playoff, And unless

723
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: he was like, hell no, no, he's got to get

724
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: started on this job tomorrow, yesterday. No, I don't want

725
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: the coach that I'm getting ready to hire. I wonder

726
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: if that's not the biggest sticking point in these negotiations,

727
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: because I dude, like, I mean, I'll go, I just

728
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: have to imagine that Lane had I'm sorry to interrupt you, Fincy,

729
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: but I just have to imagine that Lane has that

730
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: he's not completely soulless, right, that he's got some level

731
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: meaningful level of investment in what he's been doing at

732
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: ole Miss for these past what five years, and in

733
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: this roster and the most success that they've had as

734
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: a college football program, and that at some at least

735
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: at some part of him wants to see them at

736
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: least finish the job, whatever the job looks like, whether

737
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: it be a Natty, whether it be a playoff win,

738
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: whether they get won and done whatever, versus the LSU

739
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: component of it, which is like, why do we care

740
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: about what Ole Miss wants? We want our coach and

741
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: we want him now, especially if we're going to pay

742
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: the kind of money that is being rumored to be

743
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: potentially paid to Lane Kiff and go ahead.

744
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: When I was playing for another country artist and I

745
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: got the call to see if I wanted to tour

746
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: with the band Perry, I had to leave that the

747
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: next day. I literally had to go do a VANM

748
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: Parry show the next day. But I knew it was

749
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: the gig I had to have. It was the better gig, right,

750
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: it was the better opportunity. And the funny thing is

751
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: I went to the band at the time, the management

752
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: with the band, and I was like, hey, let me

753
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: give two weeks a notice so they can audition somebody

754
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: and put somebody else in my seat. And the band

755
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: came back and they're like, no, we have to have

756
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: a fiddle player. We're going to have a new fiddle

757
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: player on Saturday. So it's either going to be you

758
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: or it's going to be somebody else. We'd love for

759
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: it to be you, your first choice, but if not, we'll

760
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: go down the roller decks like that's just the way

761
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: life works.

762
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes.

763
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: It is very possible that Lane, even if he wants

764
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 2: to give two weeks notice, for example, in this situation,

765
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 2: in the real world situation, he may want to play

766
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: out the playoffs, but LSU has every right to turn

767
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: around and say not if it makes more difficult for us.

768
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: And that's why there's no easy answer. We'll keep breaking

769
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: this down.

770
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Plus we did get some actual football on the field today.

771
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: Of note, The question is will any of it changed

772
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: the way?

773
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: There is one game that we now know is on

774
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: the calendar that is not getting enough hype. I'll tell

775
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: you what it is next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason

776
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: fitzbucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. If you're listening to

777
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio, it's fucking fits hanging out with

778
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio. I think it's important before

779
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: I make this statement book that I remind everybody that

780
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: may not have listened to us in the past. I

781
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: do not care about anybody's favorite college football team. I

782
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: don't have a favorite college football team. I don't have

783
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: a favorite college football conference. I think it's bored to

784
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: remind everybody of that, because certainly there's a long standing

785
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 2: conversation about the biases that exist at ESPN. As somebody

786
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: that was fired by ESPN, that would be me. If

787
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: there's anybody that and the cup. I hosted College Football Live,

788
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: I was part of Game Day, I was in college

789
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: football conversations every and like, if there's anybody to come

790
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: out and tell you, Wow, there's a big anti whatever bias. Boy,

791
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: I could grow my following and make a bunch of

792
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: money if I just came out everywhere and told everybody

793
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: that these things exist. They don't like all ESPN and

794
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: most people care about it is just making money, right,

795
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: So when I say this, I'm not saying it with

796
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: any concern about what biases people believe exists, because I

797
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: don't believe they exist at all. That being said, We're

798
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: about to get a big ten championship game that is

799
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: number one versus number two.

800
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: And I genuinely believe if it was.

801
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: The exact same situation and it was Georgia versus Texas

802
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: A and M, it would be the over. Like we

803
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: would have been talking about the possibility for weeks. We'd

804
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: be talking about what it means every single day. We

805
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: would be turning.

806
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: Around every day and blowing up, Oh.

807
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: My god, I can't believe one v two sec matchup. Well,

808
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: one v two is Ohio State versus Indiana.

809
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: One v.

810
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: Two is the only two teams.

811
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: This year in college football that have looked pretty untouchable

812
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: if you look at the course of the year, one v.

813
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Two is clearly the two best teams in all the land.

814
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: That's what we get for a conference championship game. And

815
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: it just I'm waiting for the sizzle. I see the stake.

816
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't hear the sizzle.

817
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: No, I would say that it's as it's as lacking

818
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: drama as any kind of situation, any kind of scenario

819
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: that you could find for this in particular, right, what

820
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: did we spend Wednesday evening talking about when we were

821
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: filling in for Mark Harmon and them. It was the

822
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: idea that Michigan and Ohio State, and could Michigan do

823
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: it for a fifth rate time, and would Ohio State

824
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: big brain their way out of a game plan that

825
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: plays to their strengths and try and play the way

826
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: that Michigan does when they've tried that before and they've

827
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: had no success doing it at least in these last

828
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: four tries. And what did Ohio State do today? They

829
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: went out there and they completely negated any conversation around

830
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: mission again in upsets and drama and problems for the

831
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: number one dog in a country, because they went out

832
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: there and they smacked him. Indiana was never going to

833
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: struggle with Purdue, but there was nothing to be There

834
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: was no There was no juice in Indiana Purdue in

835
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: rivalry week anyway. It was fifty six to three in

836
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: West Lafayette yesterday when the old oaken Bucket was won

837
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: by Indiana and Kirk Sidnetti put together a second double

838
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: digit win season and undefeated season at Indiana, something that's

839
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: never been done before. And because Signetti didn't say anything,

840
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, flashy, or didn't take a shot at Ryan

841
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Day or Ohio State or anything like that the way

842
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: that he was kind of prone to do last year.

843
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: We just kind of roll our eyes and say, okay,

844
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: one versus two in the Big Ten Championship game, let's

845
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: talk more about Lane. That's why I'm annoyed by the

846
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin thing, because I think there is good football,

847
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: actual football dialogue to be had there beyond the Tea

848
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: MZ of it. And because Ohio State Indiana has zero

849
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: TMZ element to it whatsoever. It seems that people are

850
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: just content to, you know, let let the time pass,

851
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: let the game play out. Okay, winner moves on and

852
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: loser still makes the playoff or whatever the case may be.

853
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: And all right, we had a good run. Somebody's got

854
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: to take on an l here, unless you know, God forbid.

855
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously college football in a situation like that

856
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: can't end in a tie. Oh Vanderbilt is scored again.

857
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's sure. You're right though, Like, think about this

858
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: one v.

859
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: Two Big Ten Championship game is going to be the

860
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: best win in the country for anybody whoever wins Indiana

861
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: or Ohio State.

862
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: It will be.

863
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: And if right now, your argument is well, Ohio State

864
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: hasn't played anybody, or your argument is Indiana hasn't played

865
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: anybody that gets changed with the conference championship on the

866
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: line like that level to me of the opportunity for

867
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: Indiana in this game, particularly to change the way we

868
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: feel about the entire program going into the College Football Playoff.

869
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: Stunning like that, to me is just such a big statement.

870
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: Right and again, like we sat here, I watched that Texas,

871
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Texas A and M game. I'm pretty surprised to see

872
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Texas A and M come out as flat as I

873
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: thought that they looked at times.

874
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: I we'll break it. We'll break more down next hour.

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Speaker 3: Bucket Fits Fox Sports Radio.

876
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

877
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: Rivalry Week is really so far just a bunch of

878
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: butt whoopings.

879
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: But there has been one surprise that could shake things.

880
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: Up in the College Football Playoff, and that comes in

881
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: the form of Texas, Texas A and M.

882
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: He's buck Rising.

883
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitz Bucket Fits hanging out with the Fox

884
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: Sports Radio as you just heard the update from Martin Wise,

885
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: we are getting one thorough hoopin' one thorough took behind

886
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: the shed. Made him regret even showing up in this

887
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: right now in a rivalry game, that Buck knows well

888
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: covering it in Tennessee. Vandy's absolutely just clobbering Tennessee right now,

889
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: which would excite me because I love this sort of

890
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: weird way that you know teams can get into the

891
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: college football playoff conversation. But the reality of it is, Buck,

892
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: that door was likely shut loudly closed. I mean, Vandy

893
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: needed a bunch of chaos anyway to try and get

894
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: into this thing. But part of the chaos we've the

895
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: only real chaos we've seen so far today was Texas

896
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: doing the unthinkable and taking Texas A and M to

897
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: their only.

898
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: Loss, which doesn't help Vandy it off.

899
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: So I'm watching the best version of Vandy I've ever

900
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: seen in my lifetime, realizing as this afternoon goes on

901
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: that it's very clear they won't be part of the

902
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: college football playoff conversation. But man, at least they put

903
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: a wrinkle in this whole thing.

904
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Do you disagree, well, I mean, if we're talking about

905
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: eye test stuff and listen, Tennessee is fraud. Tennessee's defense

906
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: is bad, objectively bad. They're down their top two corners

907
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: basically the entire season. Not to make excuses for them,

908
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: because This is awesome for Vanderbilt, deserved by Vanderbilt, and

909
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: for whatever you thought of the way that he looked

910
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Pavia in Tuscaloosa when he turned the ball over in

911
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: a game that was closer than the final margin would indicate,

912
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: or when he went to Austin and did not play

913
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: well but then rallied back to make it a one

914
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: score game with twenty one points in the fourth quarter,

915
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: for him to go to Knoxville, which is where this

916
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: game is being played against a ranked Tennessee team. FITZI,

917
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've been to a game at Neeland at

918
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: some point.

919
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, a few times. Yeah yeah, amazing.

920
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Neeland Stadium, I would argue is the most hostile environment

921
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: in all of sports. I would put it up there

922
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: with Death Valley at night. I would put it up

923
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: there with any venue, any sporting any program, and he

924
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: at least in the continental United States. I don't know.

925
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: I can't speak to you know, Premier League soccer and

926
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: things like that, because I know that gets rowty too.

927
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of what Tennessee is, what Niland Stadium is,

928
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: and what Vanderbilt has been, which is always little brother

929
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: in this state, the most meaningful game in the state's

930
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: history between these two pro and this game has been

931
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: played for over one hundred years. For Vanderbilt to be

932
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: up forty five twenty four at the two minute warning,

933
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: I don't think Diego Pavi is going back into the game.

934
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: I think he's done for the day. Seventeen to twenty seven,

935
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: two fifty three. He had a touchdown through the area

936
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: at a rushing touchdown as well. He's put up nineteen

937
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: attempts for one hundred and fifty nine yards on the ground.

938
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: He's averaging eight point four yards per carry two interceptions

939
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: early on, but he has battled back. Man. I don't

940
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: know if we didn't just see the Heisman Trophy winner

941
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: go out there and get the job done. I know

942
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Julian say and put it on Michigan today. I know

943
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: that Fernando Mendoza is an awesome story. But what has

944
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: happened at Vanderbilt if they are truly to consider the award,

945
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that you can make an argument that

946
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: there's a better college football player in the country than

947
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia. As he puts a bow on his regular

948
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: season here. And maybe they don't make the playoffs, fine,

949
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: but this is. This is I don't want to make

950
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: a moral victory talk, because it's not moral victory. It's

951
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: ten wins at Vanderbilt as a ranked team for a

952
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: for as long as they've been in the top twenty five,

953
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: which is something that never happens for them to be

954
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: able to play in this game. He's being congratulated by

955
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: all manner of people who just want to be there

956
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: to witness it. Associated with Vanderbilt's program. They've showed him

957
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: on the television broadcast with Tim Korb and the Vanderbilt

958
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: baseball coach who's a national championship. He's just up up

959
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: there wapping up Jordan Matthews, the longtime NFL wide receiver

960
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: slash tight end who played at Vanderbilt, Like this means

961
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: so much to that program, and they are I have

962
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: no idea where they are without him. I know it's

963
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: not here. If you are making an argument for anybody

964
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: definitively to have their Heisman Trophy moment, the resume that

965
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia has put together here, I think he should

966
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: win the award.

967
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: It's tough for me because this year we don't have

968
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: a clear favorite at the same level we so often

969
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: do and you mentioned Fernando Mendoza. It should be pointed

970
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: out that now voters cannot submit their Heisman Trophy ballot

971
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: until after conference championship games. So I think what becomes

972
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: really interesting is that Fernando Mendoza, to me, who is

973
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: currently the shortest odds in most sportsbooks to win the award,

974
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: is one or two things happens.

975
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: Right, he goes.

976
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 2: In to a Big Ten championship game against Ohio State

977
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: and plays lights out and all of a sudden he

978
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: cements his victory. Or he goes in and I could

979
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: easily see this happening as well, he throws three picks

980
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden if he throws, if he

981
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: has a particularly bad game and Ohio State turns around

982
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: and beats Indiana, then you have to wonder what it

983
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: means for everybody else. But then the other part of

984
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: it is like that I think becomes a little complicated

985
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: when nobody has necessarily separated themselves to the same level.

986
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: Is that jeremih Love, the running back for Notre Dame,

987
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: has been absolutely electric. What do I do though, And

988
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: just being genuine here, I hate comparing previous seasons to

989
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: this season. Very different situations. Jeremiah Love, while absolutely wildly

990
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: incredible this year, and I just think one of the

991
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: most impressive players we've seen throughout the course of the

992
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: college football season. That's not a hot take, right, but

993
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love did not put up nearly the numbers that

994
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: we saw Ashton Genty put up last year. Right, So, like,

995
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is the best running back in college football

996
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: this year, it's not even close. And he's been incredible

997
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: this year, but Ashton Genty had another worldly year last

998
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: year and he didn't win the awards. So like, sometimes

999
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: I think these comparisons get really tough. They must get

1000
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: tough for voters to try and figure it out, because

1001
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: like in this year's college football environment, there just haven't

1002
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: been that many Heisman moments.

1003
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: Maybe you're right, maybe this is the closest thing we've

1004
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: had to a.

1005
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: True Heisman moment because Ohio State just hasn't played anybody. Like,

1006
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: what's the main moment from Ohio State that everybody says, Aha,

1007
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: Like if you believe that that was Ohio State or

1008
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: if you believe that it's Alabama, Well, Alabama's gonna have

1009
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 2: to have that moment tonight.

1010
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: And you're right, Diego pave is having that moment right now.

1011
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it's an accident.

1012
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: By the way, up forty five to twenty four, with

1013
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: the minute thirty to go, they're still Paden stats like

1014
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: Diego just ran the football after throwing the football. They're running,

1015
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: they're trying to get down the field. I think they

1016
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: want to make sure the number is as huge as

1017
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: possible for Heisman voters and for the College Football Playoff Committee.

1018
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: No, I think you're absolutely spot on. I'm frankly, I

1019
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't be surprised to see him go back

1020
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: in there. I thought that his day might be done.

1021
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: But they are going to commit to this. And also,

1022
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee has had its foot on Vanderbilt's neck

1023
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: for basically their entire existence. I mean, I'm sure you

1024
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: could go back and find more competitive games in the

1025
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties or nineteen forties when Vanderbilt was playing reasonably

1026
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: high level football, when last Vanderbilt was playing reasonably high

1027
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: level football. So I'm sure there's an element of let's

1028
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: just put it on Tennessee too, Otherwise they would Otherwise

1029
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: they would be kneeling this thing out. Even though all

1030
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: both programs have or both teams have all three time

1031
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: timeouts left. Nobody's taking one at this point in time.

1032
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: They're just continuing to run plays for Vanderbilt in a

1033
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: third and two situation.

1034
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: Now, did you see the rushing yards here in the

1035
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: second half, Tennessee has negative six rushing yards.

1036
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt has one hundred and seventy three.

1037
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1038
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Those are the moments that I think become really important

1039
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: when you start talking about the College FOOTBA Playoff Committee.

1040
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: Because I've told you this before, I'll say this one

1041
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: blue in the face. They want teams that can control

1042
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Most committee members I've ever talked

1043
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: to when I've been on the mock committee, all of

1044
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: these things, those committee members seem to consistently stress the

1045
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: same thing. They want teams that can dominate line of scrimmage.

1046
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: That's how they consider a team to be great. That

1047
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: we've gone final now forty five to twenty four. With

1048
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: that win, I think the rushing yardage is going to

1049
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: be a real part of this because as we came

1050
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: into this segment and I said, remember, Texas got the

1051
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: most impressive win of the day. So if you're vanding

1052
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: now you need a chaos in front of you. You're

1053
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: probably not getting chaos in front of you. There's no

1054
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: way you're making to the College FOOTBA Playoff, but you're

1055
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: certainly trying to make sure that you end up being

1056
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: on everybody's mind for the most impressive win of the day.

1057
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: I think they may have, especially when you talk about

1058
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage stuff. It's a shame this Vandy team.

1059
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: I think you know this is just the way it's

1060
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: going to go. There's going to be a team every

1061
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: year that finishes with a couple of losses that we think, damn,

1062
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: they really deserve to be in the College Football player

1063
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: If you can't tell me Vandy isn't better than whoever

1064
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: the ACC champion is, whoever the Group of Five champion is.

1065
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of a joke this year, the way the

1066
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: system is built for fairness for everybody, that we just

1067
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: don't take the best twelve teams.

1068
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: Oklahoma, by the way, just squeaking one out. Speaking of

1069
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: things that Vanderbilt could use to happen seventeen to thirteen

1070
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: at home over LSU. You want to talk about style points,

1071
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I know they're not going to They're the number eight

1072
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: team in the country fits. They're not going to drop

1073
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: out the way that they've kept winning games, but for

1074
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: the way that they've looked now they can beat teams

1075
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: in those kind of games, and maybe that is to

1076
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: its own credit or to their credit, that should be

1077
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: considered a different kind of style. Points that teams can

1078
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: make it dirty and ugly, or they can play dirty

1079
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: and ugly games and still find ways to eke out victories.

1080
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: But if you want the best entertainment value, and I

1081
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: understand that it's not about entertainment value, it's about the

1082
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: resumes that they've built and the things that they've done,

1083
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: and the places that they've succeeded and where they've fallen short,

1084
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: and how that measures up with the rest of the competition.

1085
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: I know that entertainment should not really have a place

1086
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: in this discussion, but I want Vandy in the college

1087
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: football Playoff over a bunch of teams that are probably

1088
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: going to make it. I'd rather see Vanderbilt at this

1089
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: point than Alabama, who is getting ready to kick off

1090
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: here in about what a little more than fifteen minutes

1091
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: from now. I'd rather see Vanderbilt in than Oklahoma. I'd

1092
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: rather see Vanderbilt in than Oregon. I could go down

1093
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: the list if just in terms of teams that are

1094
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: going to put on a show and actually give you

1095
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: the best version of the college football playoff. Vanderbilt absolutely

1096
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: belongs in that discussion. They're showing the picture of him

1097
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: doing the shot of him doing the Heisman Trophy after

1098
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: he ran his touchdown in earlier Pavia the Heisman Trophy celebration.

1099
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: I just don't know what the argument is like Notre Dame,

1100
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: for example, Okay, Notre Dame's resume versus Vanderbilt's resume. Can

1101
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: you make an argument that Vanderbilt should be ranked higher

1102
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: than Notre Dame. I think it's quite easy to do,

1103
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: so that's not gonna happen. But they're being dinged here

1104
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: for the brand on their helmet as opposed to who

1105
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: they are as a team and what's gotten them there,

1106
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: and that's gonna make a lot of people insane. I

1107
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: know there's not a lot of Vanderbilt fans across the country.

1108
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: They're creating more by having success and having a player,

1109
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: as you know, just brilliant as Pavia is. So I'm

1110
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: sure the Vanderbilt fan base is growing with each passing week.

1111
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: But man, I just I don't know how you can

1112
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: keep them out. I do know how they are going

1113
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: to be kept out, but I don't think in good

1114
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: conscious that you can keep them out well.

1115
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: And so much is going to depend on what happens

1116
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: as of now because BYU. Because of the outcomes over

1117
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: the course of the day, we now know that the

1118
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: Big twelve Championship game next weekend will be Textas Tech

1119
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: versus PYU. If Texas Tech wins that game, then that

1120
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: will essentially knock BYU.

1121
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: Out of most of this conversation.

1122
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: Currently they're eleventh ranked, but they would be there's a

1123
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: bid thief that would take that from. Where it gets

1124
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: complicated is if BYU wins, then they have to get

1125
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: a bid.

1126
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: So there's the chance that the tenth, eleventh.

1127
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: And twelfth ranked teams by the committee could all miss

1128
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: the college Football playoff. And you mentioned Notre Dame, who

1129
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: sits currently at nine. Well, Miami beat the snot out

1130
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: of pit. That was the last time they'll be on

1131
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: the field. Miami has a head to win win over

1132
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. So there's gonna be controversy through all of

1133
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: this no matter what happens over the course of the weekend. Unfortunately,

1134
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: for the huge win that Vandy just had today, there's

1135
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: just no runway. I think that gets them no matter

1136
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: what happens, Even if Oklahoma loses today, even if Alabama

1137
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: loses today, there's too much still ahead of Vanderbilt. So

1138
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: I think their season has basically come to an end,

1139
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: and now they'll have to feel motivated playing in a

1140
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: bowl game that's far beneath what they had hoped to

1141
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: considering where the season was just about a month ago.

1142
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll keep breaking down any of the outcomes

1143
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: we get. We'll talk a little bit Alabama too, and

1144
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: what's actually on the line with the Iron Bowl. But

1145
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: coming up next, we got football on Thursday, and as

1146
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: a result of all the NFL games, it might be

1147
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: time to call some of these turkeys cooked in the NFL.

1148
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: We'll tell you which teams were giving up on next.

1149
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: Buck Rising Jason Fitz Fox Sports Radio can't wait to

1150
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: get his take on parades. He's Buck Rising Bucket fits

1151
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. I saw people on Instagram reels

1152
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 2: that kept coming up that were down at the Macy's

1153
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: Day Parade that were stunned to find out that there

1154
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: aren't commentators that you can hear when you're standing in

1155
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: the street, to which I was reminded of just how

1156
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: stupid most of the world is, Like what did you

1157
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: think that, Like the City of New York just put

1158
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: speakers everywhere to blast the commentary of the announcers along, Like, No,

1159
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: you're standing there watching a random Spider Man balloon go by,

1160
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: and you're just lucky to get to damn do it.

1161
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, but all I can think now

1162
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: is Buck Rising, show.

1163
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: It up early, because you know you got to get

1164
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: that early seat to get to the Macy's Day Parade's

1165
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: a Buck's there at like.

1166
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 3: Six point thirty in the morning, bundled up.

1167
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: He's cold, he's angry, he's hungry, and then he finds

1168
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: out that it's total silence for two hours while balloons

1169
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: go by.

1170
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about that.

1171
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: So you think I'm stupid that I would not assume

1172
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: that there was no you know, provided commentary in the

1173
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: middle of the Macy's Day parade. Also, it's like when

1174
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: you go to a museum, right and they offer you

1175
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: those little devices that you can you can take the

1176
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: guided tour. Maybe I don't know, maybe the people that

1177
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: are attending the Macy's Day parade assume that such things

1178
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: would be provided to them. Are like sports fans who

1179
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: are still wearing their little AMFM radios at games right

1180
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: to hear their local play by play commentator. I run

1181
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: into that at Titans games all the time. For the

1182
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: people that are still dumb enough to be attending Titans

1183
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: games at one and ten at this point in time,

1184
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not a parade person. What's the last

1185
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: parade you've been to?

1186
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: Championship parade for the Vegas gold Knights. It was the

1187
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: last last parade? I would you bet? I will say this.

1188
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: I kind of like this. You've stumbled on a a

1189
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: beautiful idea.

1190
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: Maybe we take people that just aren't that famous anymore

1191
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: and we relegate them to side street commentary in New York.

1192
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: So like Kathylee Gifford doesn't get on the actual broadcast anymore,

1193
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: she's just sitting on like the corner of whatever, Like

1194
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: forty second, she's just sitting over there doing her own like.

1195
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: Got a little little lamp out, like her little one setup.

1196
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: Just that block.

1197
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 5: Here's it.

1198
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: So every block you get a different Oh man, that's

1199
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: the local weather guy from Austin that everybody likes, you know,

1200
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: like there we go, like, let we let c lists,

1201
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: celebrities come in and commentate different streets along the parade route.

1202
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: That's say this is fancy and no. By the way, Buck,

1203
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: to be clear, I don't think you're stupid. I think

1204
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: you would just presume that somebody would have told you,

1205
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: like you would show up and be like, wait, y'all

1206
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: didn't tell me that there's no sound at this Like

1207
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: I think that you're just enough of a vacation princess

1208
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't have put the thought into it one

1209
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: way or the other, and then you'd be surprised if

1210
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: somebody else didn't explain it to you.

1211
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Correct. That's why I don't. I don't do I don't

1212
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: do vacations without having somebody, you know, write the itinerary

1213
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: for me and tell me you're supposed to be here

1214
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: on this day and there on that day and those

1215
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: kind of things. Yes, I like that vacationing for dummies.

1216
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: Now look, I'm in for all of that. Like that.

1217
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Thank God for AI. All right, So you and I

1218
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: we talked on Wednesday. On Wednesday night, we were hanging

1219
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: out on Fox Sports Radio from ten pm to two am,

1220
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: we let them the midnight bells hit, and we talked

1221
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: a bunch of Thanksgiving food, right, But also also we

1222
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: talked about the games coming on Thursday and the consequence

1223
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: of the actions.

1224
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: Right.

1225
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: So we now have in a world where three teams

1226
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 2: that everybody wanted to buy into as absolute Super Bowl contenders,

1227
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: all three the holy Trinity of losses, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the.

1228
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 3: Lions, all three lose on Thanksgiving Day.

1229
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: So I know you were Titans practice and then you

1230
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 2: were stuff in your face with all sorts of Thanksgiving food.

1231
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: But along that route, which of those three teams did

1232
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: you suddenly throw your hands up the most to and

1233
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: say I'm out on this team.

1234
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: It's gotta be the Ravens, right, I mean six and six. Now,

1235
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Lamar looks just out of it. I don't Lamar Jackson

1236
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: is not stinky, all right. That's it's so distrusting.

1237
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: He just looks sticky. He just looks stinky.

1238
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: He is he is displaying the behavior of a stinky quarterback, right.

1239
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: He's the behavior of a stinky quarterback.

1240
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Is. I just don't know how they fix it. The

1241
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: offense just looks out of place and yeah, I mean,

1242
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: how many fumbles did they end up with? Five? I

1243
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: think if I mean, if you're Dereck Henry, you're losing

1244
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: your damn mind at a certain point because the ball

1245
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: security in that game. And Derek's had some fumbles this

1246
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: season too. Let's let's make no mistake about it. But

1247
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: I just the Chiefs still have enough. I think it

1248
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: was a close loss against the Cowboys, and the Cowboys,

1249
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 1: to their credit, like I don't think the Chiefs lost

1250
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: that game. I think the Cowboys went out there and

1251
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: won it. Now, you can't go two full quarters if

1252
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: you're Kansas City without scoring, which is what they did.

1253
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: They had fourteen points in the first quarter, they had

1254
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: fourteen points in the second and the fourth quarter, to

1255
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: at least make it appear closer than it actually was

1256
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: and to make Dallas sweat it out a little bit, right,

1257
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: But they got the job done. For Detroit and the Packers,

1258
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: this was as commanding a performance as I think Green

1259
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: Bays had on offense all year long. And Detroit is

1260
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not a bad football team, right. They're

1261
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: seven and five, though, and they're fraught in a division

1262
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: where the Chicago Bears. I didn't even think maybe you're

1263
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: just keeping it to the Thanksgiving Day games, because if

1264
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: you were talking about a holy trinity of losses, I

1265
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: would not have put the Lions in there. Ought to

1266
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: put the Eagles in there twenty four to fifteen against

1267
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears at home, no less, coming off that

1268
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys implosion of a loss for Philadelphia. I'm sure the

1269
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: again the sports talk radio in Philly this week is

1270
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: to just be toxic acid, bath level stuff. Baltimore is

1271
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: the team that I would be most worried about, though,

1272
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: because if Lamar can't get the requisite help that he's

1273
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: not getting, and also he's going to play as not

1274
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: the best version of himself, then they have no chance.

1275
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: They can't they can't survive in these games. And that's

1276
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: not a glowing endorsement of Pittsburgh either, right. They could

1277
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: end up nine and eight or eight and nine and

1278
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: potentially win this division, for as messy as it figures

1279
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: to get down the stretch, we'll see if Joe Burrow

1280
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: can't make life a little harder for them, because again

1281
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Bengals have to play a second

1282
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: time in these next what six games I guess for

1283
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: them five games that there is remaining, But Baltimore is

1284
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: the one that would stress me out the most if

1285
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: I was a fan of that team.

1286
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think in part because of who they lost to.

1287
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: Like, you make a really good point that Philadelphia, this

1288
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: guy is falling for the Eagles. Now, it's okay to

1289
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: admit right now, even defending Super Bowl champions. I'm the

1290
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: one that I feel like every week comes out says

1291
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: they'll get.

1292
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: It right, it's gonna be fine.

1293
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Then I just watched the Bears go out and control

1294
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: the line of scrimpers.

1295
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: They ran the football over him.

1296
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: It was just it was it was weird to me

1297
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: book to watch a team physically dominate the Philadelphia Eagles,

1298
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Speaker 2: and that's what the Bears did. So that's concerning and

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Speaker 2: certainly to your point, the Lions offense just doesn't have

1300
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: the rhythm it usually has and green Bay looked really good,

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Speaker 2: but that's losing to Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fault for lovers to Green Bay.

1303
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Cowboys might be a hell

1304
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: of a lot better than anyone thought the Cowboys were

1305
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: gonna be. And the Chiefs continue to have their issues

1306
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: trying to find any balance. YadA YadA, YadA, all these things,

1307
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: like I can. I can compartmentalize each of those losses

1308
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: to find the why you lose to the Bengals. And

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01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: it's not just that you lost to the Bengals. I'll

1310
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: even give you gave up thirty two points to Joe Burrow.

1311
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: I'll even give you that man, Joe Burrow stuff to stop. Okay, great,

1312
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: we could go down that path. How do you only

1313
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: score fourteen points on that defense?

1314
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: Like?

1315
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: That's the problem with the Ravens is that the offense

1316
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: is broken if you watch it, the eye test is broken.

1317
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: And I know Orlowski has done some really nice breakdowns

1318
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: on some of what is clear medically that it just

1319
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: like Lamar is not himself right now, and obviously anything

1320
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: less than one hundred percent of Lamar and the Ravens

1321
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: feel broken, but they don't have any of that factor

1322
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: that scares anybody right now. For them to look so

1323
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: inferior to the Bengals all around, I think is the

1324
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: most shocking part of it.

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01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: Now. The other part of this is Cincinnati's defense is

1326
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: allowed to play better. Right. This is kind of that

1327
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: Auburn Vandy conversation. We were having a couple of weeks ago

1328
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: where you were on Vandy's ass about sweating it out

1329
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: in overtime against an Auburn team that we had fired

1330
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: their coach. No, I mean, I listen. You're entitled to

1331
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: point out when a winning team is keeping it close

1332
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: with the losing team, as Auburn was. And I think

1333
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: it's also fair to say that Cincinnati's defense is playing

1334
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: better football in these last couple weeks. Now, that doesn't

1335
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: forgive them for the first two months of their season, right,

1336
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: they have been one of the worst defenses in football,

1337
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: and in fact, so much so that Mike Turico and

1338
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth on the call of that game, did

1339
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: a whole bit, a whole produced bit with graphics and

1340
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: everything about the Bengals defense being burnt to a crisp Right,

1341
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: they had fire extinguishers, and then all of a sudden,

1342
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: they're forcing three and outs on Lamar Jackson and the

1343
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: Ravens defense. So how to find kind of the balance

1344
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: between All, Right, the Ravens had a bad day, but

1345
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: also the Bengals defense had a good day, and which

1346
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: one is more at fault there?

1347
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: So what I this is in order to not be

1348
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: a prisoner of the moment. This is my new thought process,

1349
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: my new thought exercise. Right, instead of looking at teams

1350
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: in one week chunks, I try to look at teams

1351
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: in three to four week chunks. Right to your point,

1352
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: defenses can get better, offenses can get better, teams can

1353
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: change if I look at a three or four week chunk.

1354
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: This for this Bengals defense, Yes, they just won a

1355
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: really impressive game. Look at the month before that. They

1356
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: gave up twenty six points to the Patriots. That's not bad,

1357
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: They're very good. They gave up thirty four to the Steelers,

1358
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: who suck. They gave up forty seven points to the

1359
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: Bears in the game they absolutely, inexclusively lost, and they

1360
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: gave up thirty nine points to the Jets. So if

1361
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking over a month, yes, the Bengals had a

1362
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: really good day. But if I have to make right now,

1363
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: if I have to bank everything I own on whether

1364
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: that's a statement about the Ravens or the Bengals, if

1365
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: I look at a month entirely, I think it's a

1366
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: statement on just how meh the Bengals are, which means

1367
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens are even more meh offensive.

1368
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 3: It's broken, It's just broken.

1369
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in this in this recency biases, uh is okay?

1370
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to this specific fact, what

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: let me let me pull up the game book just

1372
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: so I'm citing specific things here and not just free

1373
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: ball if not free balling, but freestyling, I suppose is

1374
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: the term that I should use. Yeah, So five fumbles

1375
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: by Baltimore in this game, okay? Uh, okay, five fumbles

1376
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: is an out or excuse me, four fumbles and all

1377
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: four of them lost, Now, so that can be good

1378
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: defense by Cincinnati that prevents Baltimore from cashing in opportunities

1379
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: on offense? Does that mean that Baltimore's offense, because they

1380
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: fumbled four times and lost all four, is inherently broken?

1381
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: I think there's evidence to say that there's something not

1382
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: right with the Ravens offense. But can we say, in

1383
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: a one game sample size where recency bias must take precedent,

1384
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: that if they don't fumble four times and lose all

1385
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: of them, or even if they fumble half that much,

1386
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: or even if they recover half of those that we're

1387
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: talking about at least a substantially different outcome. Sure, but

1388
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: we can't because in that one game they fumbled four

1389
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: times and lost all four and it turned into a

1390
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: blowout in ways that it had no business being a blowout, right,

1391
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: So I think there has to be Yeah, I understand

1392
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: what you're saying about the context and not being prisoner

1393
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: of the moment, But I think it's okay to be

1394
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: prisoner of the moment when you say, yeah, why didn't

1395
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: the offense work? Well, they fumbled four times and they

1396
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: lost all four. There was no way they were going

1397
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: to win that game.

1398
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong about that, Martin.

1399
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: Get us caught up on the scores, and then I'm

1400
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: gonna get your thoughts on the other side of these

1401
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: losses from the NFL coming out next.

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: That was my cute at Barton.

1403
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 9: But I don't oh, right, Virginia and Virginia Tech right

1404
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 9: out playing there, we'll do it live. Eighteenth thrank Virginia

1405
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 9: with a seven ohing lead over the Hokies five minutes

1406
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 9: left in the first quarter. There a bunch of games

1407
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 9: just went final in the top twenty five, number one

1408
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 9: Ohio State with a twenty seven to nine win over Michigan.

1409
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 9: That made me sick to my stomach, as you can

1410
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 9: hear Julian saying. With nineteen for twenty six, two thirty

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 9: three through the air and three touchdowns. Bo Jackson not

1412
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 9: that Bo Jackson, but he did look like him today,

1413
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 9: twenty two carries and seven hundred seventeen yards on the ground.

1414
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 9: Fifth rank Texas Tech with a forty nine to nothing

1415
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 9: win over at West Virginia. Six drank Oregon beat Washington

1416
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 9: twenty six to fourteen. Dante Moore twenty nine, I'm Sorry

1417
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 9: twenty for twenty nine, two eighty six and a touchdown.

1418
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 9: Oklahoma survives against LSU seventeen to thirteen, take meeting a

1419
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 9: last second, hard sorry, fourth quarter touchdown from John Mattier

1420
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 9: in that Oklahoma offense had three turnovers today for the

1421
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 9: eighth ranked Sooners, LSU finishes seven and five with an

1422
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 9: interim head coach I love A thranks BYU with a

1423
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 9: forty one to twenty one win over UCF. Twelfth ranked

1424
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 9: Miami beat Pittsburgh thirty eight to seven. Miami trying to

1425
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 9: get a late push to get into that college football playoff.

1426
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 9: Fourteenth ranked Vanderbilt, but they just finishes ten and two,

1427
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 9: six and two.

1428
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 5: In conference play at Diego Pavia. He was everywhere he passed,

1429
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 5: he ran.

1430
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: Let's see.

1431
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: Twenty carries one hundred and sixty five yards and a touchdown.

1432
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 9: You pair that with eighteen for twenty eight two sixty

1433
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 9: eight through the air and a touchdown as well. It

1434
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 9: did turn the ball over twice, but pave leads Vanderbilt

1435
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 9: to a to a forty five to twenty four win

1436
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 9: over nineteenth ranked Tennessee Fellas.

1437
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,080
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1448
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Speaker 3: Buck What, let me.

1449
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: Take the other side of this, because we just talked

1450
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: about the fact that the Ravens are clearly the biggest

1451
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: of all the teams that have lost so far this

1452
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: week in the NFL, the team that you're most willing

1453
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: to throw your hands up and say there's a problem.

1454
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: What about the opposite, Who are you least willing to like?

1455
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: Who are you looking at this loss and saying it's

1456
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: not the end of the world. Because these were substantial

1457
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: brands that lost football games. When you talk about the

1458
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: Ravens losing, when you talk about the Chiefs losing, like

1459
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: when you talk about the Eagles losing, when you look

1460
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: across the board, is there a team that you're like

1461
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: and no big deal? I'm still in on even though

1462
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: they lost.

1463
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: Man, the Eagles offense looks so bad on Friday.

1464
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 3: That's Eagles look bad. The Chiefs.

1465
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: The Chiefs look kind of broken. Yeah, the Lions look

1466
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: kind of broken. I mean, are do any of them

1467
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: stand a chants?

1468
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: I I mean, do they stand a chance? Yeah? I

1469
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: would give.

1470
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 3: Philadelphia it's a chance, you know, like I can no,

1471
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: but but.

1472
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: Like sure, I think we listen. Here's the biggest concern

1473
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: to me about Philadelphia is they're the defending champions and

1474
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: they have just had to play that much more football

1475
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: than everybody but Kansas City, and that has a wear

1476
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: on you. I know, it's super uh, you know, uninspiring

1477
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: or non analytical, but yes, when you play that much

1478
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: further than everybody else in a football season that's already

1479
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: long and already grueling and takes a toll physically, mentally,

1480
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: emotionally and all these different things, then yeah, you're in

1481
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: a situation where the grind of that will wear you

1482
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: down and cause some of these flaws to pop up.

1483
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 1: Now they've they've handled it way better than most defending

1484
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: champions do that are not named the Kansas City chief Thiefs. Right,

1485
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: So if you like, so, what is the parameters of this?

1486
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: What are the parameters of this to you? Are we

1487
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: talking about can they make the playoffs and win a game?

1488
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: I think that Philadelphia, out of any of these four

1489
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: that we're talking about, Lions, Chiefs, Ravens, or Eagles, I

1490
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: think that I would take Philadelphia in that department more

1491
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: than the other three.

1492
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: I think I agree with that.

1493
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna admit that there's a problem with each

1494
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 2: of these teams for me to give up on them. Like,

1495
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: the Lions are so explosive, and when it looks good,

1496
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 2: it looks so good. And that's what I think every

1497
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: week when I come in and say, no, this is

1498
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: the week the Lion's going to be right and then

1499
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't look right, you know, And it's not any

1500
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: one thing. It's a confluence of different things. But also, man,

1501
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 2: if I just need one play, Jamior Gibbs might be

1502
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: the one guy that I want the ball in his

1503
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: hands in the entire NFL. The Chiefs, Like, I know

1504
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: it's time to give up on the Chiefs as a

1505
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: real Super Bowl contender this year.

1506
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: I know that in my mind, But my mind said,

1507
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: I mean, no, no, But like the rest, I can't do that.

1508
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: Do you really, like right now, if I think that

1509
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Kansas City at the Patriots in the

1510
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: first round of the playoffs, am I really gonna bet

1511
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: against Mahomes in a playoff game?

1512
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: Like? I just can't bring myself to do it. So

1513
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 3: and the Eagles the same way.

1514
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: Like we talked about the Eagles last year like they

1515
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: were broken, then they got in the playoffs and they

1516
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: weren't broken.

1517
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: So there's just a part of me that looks at

1518
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 3: all of this.

1519
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: And I know we talked the other night about a

1520
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: changing of the guard in the AFC. Right now, I

1521
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: just hesitate to give up on these brands because of

1522
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: what we've seen in the past, but at the same time,

1523
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: based on what we've seen right now, none of them

1524
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: deserve to be in the conversation as elite football teams.

1525
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just a it's it's a matter

1526
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: of like, who is elite this year? You're not.

1527
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: The Rams are elite. The Rams are a great football team.

1528
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks are on the edge of elite.

1529
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: Like the turnovers sometimes scare me a little bit, but

1530
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks are on the edge.

1531
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: It's okay if there's just one elite team, and if

1532
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: that just happens to be the Los Angeles Rams, and

1533
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm not gonna do more heavy lifting for

1534
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks or the Broncos, or the Patriots or or

1535
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: any of these other teams than need be or the

1536
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: Bears right like that. These are all flawed teams that

1537
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: have had success in one score games and by the way,

1538
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: deserve to be where they are at. But I'm not

1539
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: going to go out of my way to make the

1540
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: conversation more than there is one elite team in the NFL,

1541
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: and it's being quarterbacked by a thirty seven year old

1542
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champion. Or a Super Bowl champion, not

1543
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: a defending Super Bowl champion. But you understand my point,

1544
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: who's playing the best football of his career, and the

1545
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: defense is also awesome. Beyond that, It's not like FITZI

1546
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: if you're talking about belief in brands or any of this.

1547
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: It's not as much about the brands right as it

1548
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,520
Speaker 1: is about the people quarterbacking the brands. Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes,

1549
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and Jay Lee. Two of those have won championships.

1550
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: The other one in Lamar Jackson, is a two time MVP,

1551
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: And while golf may not be any of those things,

1552
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: he has played in a Super Bowl and he has

1553
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: shown that at this phase of his career he's more

1554
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: than just a product of a certain system. He can

1555
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: win and the system helps him. But he is an

1556
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: above average quarterback by any standard of your definition at

1557
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: this point. So I think it's fine to have a

1558
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: belief in that that they can do enough when the

1559
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: moment calls for it, that they will find ways to win.

1560
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: But what we're seeing right now is that they have problems.

1561
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: For the Chiefs, it's a fact. It's the fact that

1562
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: they are not super great on defense this year. For Baltimore,

1563
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,919
Speaker 1: their offense is disjointed. And for Detroit they've got interior

1564
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: offensive line problems, to the point where they were trying

1565
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: to bring Frank rag Now out of retirement, and all

1566
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden he fails a physical because he's got

1567
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 1: a Grade three hamstring injury, which sounds awful, awful, awful.

1568
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how the hell he could get in

1569
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: there without with with still dealing with what I assume

1570
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: is caused in part his retirement. Uh, and expect this

1571
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: guy to he wasn't gonna play on Thursday regardless, but

1572
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: still that this was going to be something that shifted.

1573
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 1: Although the argument could be made that when the Lions

1574
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: have had problems, it's because their interior offensive line has

1575
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: not been good enough this year, and so that in

1576
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: your head you could make a simple solve, there's no

1577
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: simple solves for these For these three or four teams

1578
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: right now, they they are who they are. The Eagles

1579
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: are the are good enough at surviving their flaws better

1580
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: than the other three right now, which is why you

1581
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: would put your most the most amount of faith in them.

1582
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about the Chiefs, yet half the

1583
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 1: time their issues have caused them to lose half the

1584
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: time they've been able to survive it. That's the same

1585
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: argument that could be made of the Ravens. These are

1586
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: five hundred teams. They should be treated as such.

1587
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: Now we're still figuring out how to survive with no

1588
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: Lan Kiffin updates. As we sit right now, we still

1589
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: don't know where Kiffin is going to coach. That's the

1590
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: America we're in in the meantime, Would you rather hear

1591
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: about anything other than Leane Kiffin? The answer to that

1592
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: is yes, which means coming up next, we'll do the

1593
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: single greatest game show in the history of sports Stark Radio.

1594
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: Nobody can touch it. Would you rather Bucking Fits on

1595
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio? Whoo, he's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzit's

1596
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. Appreciates you guys hanging

1597
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: out with us all night as you do every Saturday.

1598
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 3: We hope means a lot that you guys choose to

1599
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time with us.

1600
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: Hope everybody had a wonderful, spectacular and incredible Thanksgiving holiday.

1601
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: As we wrap up our second hour, still no idea

1602
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: what Lane Kiffin's gonna be doing. I'm sure that uh

1603
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: mart Weiss and Mancy Belanios. We get caught up on

1604
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: that next but in the meantime, Buck, are you ready

1605
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,440
Speaker 2: for it? It's time for the single greatest.

1606
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: Game show in the history of sports Stark Radio. Are

1607
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 3: you ready for this?

1608
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: Buck? Yeah, I'm ready to have to jump your cadence

1609
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 1: so we can try and time it out correctly.

1610
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:56,839
Speaker 2: All right, are you ready for would you rather?

1611
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

1612
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: We nailed that. That was good, and tell me we

1613
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: want we we nailed that, right?

1614
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: That was?

1615
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 6: What do you think Mary? I thought it was. I

1616
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 6: thought Buck was actually a little early.

1617
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: Because I have to go a full second.

1618
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 4: I know you got I like the I like the

1619
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 4: reference you gotta jump jump his cadence.

1620
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 6: That was I like that reference. But yeah, you did

1621
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 6: jump in a little too much. I think they're.

1622
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: Feedback since I made fun of Bryce's his poverty teeth.

1623
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 6: So I'm just so mentally checked out. Yea, I need

1624
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 6: a spot day.

1625
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh Man, holidays exactly in one ear out the other.

1626
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 5: I need a spot day.

1627
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1628
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm in for that.

1629
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: I could use a good many, pet I've never had

1630
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: a many, but I love me and then I like

1631
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: petticures are my my favorite.

1632
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: I love getting pedicures.

1633
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: Maybe next time I'm in Los Angeles, team pedicures.

1634
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 3: Honestly I'm in.

1635
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm in on the Like, why next, Like, let's just

1636
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: schedule a special trip team outing.

1637
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 3: Ian you can come to although like, don't come in

1638
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 3: for feet aren't ready for it?

1639
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: Like you might want to get a prep like I

1640
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: don't like some guys don't take good care of them

1641
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: toes and they get nasty. So Ian like, you know,

1642
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: you gotta do a little advance work if we do

1643
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: a team petty outing. Unless you're already a petty fanatic.

1644
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never had a petty in my life, so

1645
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 4: I may need the prep in to.

1646
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: Change your life. It will change your life.

1647
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: Get about the pedicure. For me, it's about the calf

1648
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: massage they give you whilst getting the pedicure. That's, oh

1649
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: my gotcha.

1650
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: And like the paraffin wax like when they put your

1651
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: feet in the little wax things, Oh my god.

1652
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna have no time for would you rather now

1653
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: let's play?

1654
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, it's been the way Okay, this

1655
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: could be a controversial one here, So.

1656
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: Would you rather heard that one?

1657
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 4: Would you rather every time you burp, a slur comes out,

1658
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 4: or every time you sneeze, you punch the closest person.

1659
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,879
Speaker 1: This might be my favorite. Would you rather? Also? Nobody

1660
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: could pick the burp one?

1661
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: Right?

1662
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 1: What happens if you pick the getting canceled?

1663
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 6: Can we pre cancel you? Pens you?

1664
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean if you if you willingly admit or willingly

1665
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: decide that you will take the thing that causes you

1666
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: to randomly utter slurs. I feel like that's a red flag,

1667
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: my friend.

1668
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh that is I am taking that one in a heartbeat,

1669
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: just because of just how uncomfortable it will make the

1670
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: entire I'm imagining walking through the mall for Black Sunday,

1671
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: Black Friday shopping and all of a sudden boom, like

1672
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 2: it just starts coming out while you're in the store.

1673
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: All the whole room is so uncomfortable with it.

1674
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 6: And don't get acid reflux around.

1675
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is a this is electric what puck,

1676
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: You're gonna start punching people that are close to you?

1677
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 3: What if your mom's standing next to you? Buck? What

1678
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 3: if your mom is the person clothes like you just

1679
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 3: gonna punch your mom?

1680
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: White privilege, Now, that is the most honest thing that's

1681
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: been said on this.

1682
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 3: Radio show for two hours. You are one thousand percent right?

1683
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: Oh correct, never wanted a no comment? Or would you rather?

1684
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 3: That was the best question we've ever had on that shot?

1685
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: All right?

1686
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 4: Would you rather make one hundred dollars every time you

1687
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 4: make someone laugh? Or make one thousand dollars every time

1688
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 4: you make someone cry?

1689
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh, money in the bank, Give me a k give

1690
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: me a grand to make somebody cry. I'm already doing

1691
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: it on a regular basis. I answer, Oh, it's I mean,

1692
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: tears sustain me also financially baking.

1693
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dad, Because you could walk into one

1694
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: room full of people and like it would take all

1695
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: at tent. Like all you got to do is go

1696
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 2: to a like anywhere near a department store where people

1697
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: are trying on clothes and just start offering opinions.

1698
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 3: You'll be rich.

1699
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 6: I feel like the dressing room just like yeah.

1700
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's that's not going to fetch Those are cute, aspirational.

1701
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just gonna get a market board where

1702
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: I can write different variations of the word fat on

1703
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: it and then just watch what happens when I get rich.

1704
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: Hell, I almost did it tonight. Telling Mary she had

1705
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: poverty teeth.

1706
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we're going to hell.

1707
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,839
Speaker 6: Can you jump through this this board? Please?

1708
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: They're a long way away.

1709
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: Girl.

1710
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, you gotta he got a quick one. You got,

1711
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: you got thirty seconds? Go ahead, what you got? He

1712
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: still swung the wheel. We still have to Okay, we

1713
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: don't have to know. We have to to know exactly

1714
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: what question that?

1715
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 5: All right?

1716
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 4: Would you rather have to slap a baby once a

1717
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 4: year but no one has to know that you're doing it?

1718
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 4: Let me include that. Or you have to only eat

1719
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 4: plant based protein for the rest of your life. You

1720
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 4: have ten seconds slap a baby. Sounds like a good

1721
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 4: time to me.

1722
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 3: Keep listening to fu