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Speaker 1: What is up? Fantasy fans, Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. No, I am not James

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Speaker 1: James Co is under the knife right now. I am joined,

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Speaker 1: of course, as always by Michael Fabiano, the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: and you're officially the whiz kid from Wisconsin. It's kind

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Speaker 1: friend James Co, just moments before we started this podcast tweeted,

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Speaker 1: can see what we think about where certain players should

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Speaker 1: saw hi to the guys behind the glass. By the way,

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Speaker 1: of course, Uh, Sully is back there. Uh is that

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Speaker 1: followed him in his previous incarnation, Matt Harmon, who uh

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Speaker 1: just joined our crew earlier this week, So we're glad

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Speaker 1: to have him. We're gonna sit here, are He's gonna

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Speaker 1: So we've got a full house here in the studio,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I got plenty to go on. But Sully,

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Speaker 1: a couple of big wide receiver news pieces and we'll

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Speaker 1: start down in Dallas. Des Bryant was tweeting on Monday.

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Speaker 1: His tweet as much as I love football on my

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Speaker 1: In the offseason, said that he was willing to sit

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Speaker 1: end of Wednesday, all right, Fabs, you being the resident

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Speaker 1: des Bryant goes with the second pick in the second round,

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Speaker 1: As I continue my Bust the Move series, I'm now

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Speaker 1: to have some fun on the show. We're all admitted

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Speaker 1: dorks on the show here, and well, I'm speaking for you.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the s S mento of podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, right, So you go come

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Speaker 1: from harrow Heads segue because you're seeing the suicide Squad

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Speaker 1: trailer out and then Batman and Superman is don't get

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Speaker 1: me started on that. And by the way, so I

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Speaker 1: like how they tied in Man of Steel to this,

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Speaker 1: uh Dawn of Justice movie because now they're saying that

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Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne is ticked off at Superman because in the

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Speaker 1: battle at the end with Zad when Metropolis was destroyed,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne part of the movie almost there's something I've

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Speaker 1: never done in my life. Bruce Wayne is basically, uh,

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Speaker 1: he's had his buildings damaged, are destroyed in people that

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Speaker 1: he knew were killed in this and that's why he's

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Speaker 1: pissed at Superman. Great, so he can go and die

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Speaker 1: because it shouldn't be a fight, all right, We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna like I had so many questions, but like I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna like, I'm gonna I'm gonna table those. Can

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Speaker 1: we get back to actual ranking. We're gonna get back

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Speaker 1: to it. Let's get back to the show real quickly

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Speaker 1: before we start. As I mentioned, you can find us

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Speaker 1: an NFL dot com slash draft kid. You can also

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Speaker 1: go there. You can do live raps, you can do

449
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Speaker 1: mock drafts, you can sign up all sorts of fantasy goodness,

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Speaker 1: all at your fingertips. You can do it on your desktop,

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Speaker 1: you can do it on your mobile phone. Life will

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Speaker 1: be great. Absolutely So, now the moment you've all been

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Speaker 1: waiting for, Yeah, buddy, sing it um, it is time

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Speaker 1: to do our rankings. I mentioned you can find them

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Speaker 1: online NFL dot com slash Fantasy slash Rankings. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about who we have ranked where. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the four main positions. If you want kicker rankings,

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Speaker 1: you came to the wrong place. Friend, We don't waste time.

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Speaker 1: Come on, kicks your people too, they are people too.

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Speaker 1: There's not people we're gonna talk about. So we will

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Speaker 1: start at the quarterback position with our QB rankings. Let's

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Speaker 1: just get this out of the way. We all have

463
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers number one, and Andrew luck number two, right like,

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Speaker 1: that's just the thing, that's just it. And Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: number three, right like, so we know those three are

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Speaker 1: the top three. Number four is kind of where it

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Speaker 1: gets interesting. I mean, Marcus Ben Roethlisberger, I know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've been drinking the damage at kool aid.

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Speaker 1: I apologize for some of that. You know that that

470
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Speaker 1: probably has a lot to do with it, but um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's when you look at four, five,

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Speaker 1: six with Roethlisberger, man even seven, you know, it's just

473
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Speaker 1: kind of this this jumble of quarterbacks that you can

474
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Speaker 1: pull out in just about any order and feel like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay. I'll pull back the curtain a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I hadn't made an eleventh hour switch before

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Speaker 1: this podcast. I had had Roethlisberger at four to knocked

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Speaker 1: him down just a little bit. Part of the reason

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Speaker 1: being though, and I don't know if this is in

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Speaker 1: your thought process, is those first couple of weeks sans

481
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Speaker 1: Levian Bell, They're not gonna be given it to D'Angelo

482
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Speaker 1: Williams twenty five times a game. Ben Roethlisberger is going

483
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Speaker 1: to need to be slinging it, and he's got a

484
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Speaker 1: wealth of targets in the passing game. I think those

485
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Speaker 1: could help even out Everybody always points to last year

486
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Speaker 1: he had those two games with like a million yards

487
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Speaker 1: and six touchdowns and backed back games. It was like

488
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Speaker 1: an obscene percentage of his fantasy points for the year

489
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Speaker 1: in two games. Uh, the beginning of the year without

490
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Speaker 1: Levon Bell is going to help help them even out

491
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Speaker 1: that a little bit. And I think he could have

492
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Speaker 1: some bigger weeks early on and provide some nice value

493
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Speaker 1: because you can get him late in drafts. By the way,

494
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Speaker 1: last year, after his first six touchdown game, I think

495
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Speaker 1: I went on NFL Fantasy Live and said, there's no

496
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Speaker 1: way Ben Roethlisberger throw six touchdowns this week. And it

497
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Speaker 1: was against the Ravens and he had done very little

498
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Speaker 1: against the Ravens, and he went off. I had a

499
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Speaker 1: lot both weeks. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, so I've

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Speaker 1: got been at four UM and just you know, we

501
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Speaker 1: talked about four through seven. I've got Roethlisberger four, Payton

502
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Speaker 1: at five, Breeze at six, Matt Ryan at seven. UM.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm standing by I feel I feel

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Speaker 1: good with that. The thing that worries me about Big

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Speaker 1: Ben is, like Alex said, a lot of that production

506
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Speaker 1: came into games, and even more of it. I believe

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Speaker 1: it was four or five most of his production. It

508
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Speaker 1: was about fifty percent maybe of his production came and

509
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Speaker 1: only a handful of games. And then there was other

510
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Speaker 1: games where he absolutely killed you. Now what are the advantages, Well,

511
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Speaker 1: Todd Haley clearly likes that three of the football. We

512
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Speaker 1: know that he's got Antonio Brown, the best wide receiver

513
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Speaker 1: in fantasy football, Martavis Bryant, who I absolutely love, great

514
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Speaker 1: deep threat guy who can stretch the football field. He's

515
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Speaker 1: got Levian Bell when he comes back from the suspension,

516
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Speaker 1: who caught over eighty passes last year. So there is

517
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Speaker 1: a lot to like. And now Mark Acklington is the

518
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Speaker 1: third or even fourth wide receiver, not as much press.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Sammy Coach will make much of

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Speaker 1: an impact our weapons there for sure. Now, the thing

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Speaker 1: that I worry about is is reliability when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Roethlisberger. He's never really been an elite fantasy quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's had a couple of good years, but he is

524
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Speaker 1: not unlike Troy Aikman, uh and in that very good

525
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Speaker 1: quarterback on the field that is good in fantasy, but

526
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Speaker 1: he was ahead of Drew Brees last year. This was

527
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Speaker 1: his best fantasy season, but again it came on the

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Speaker 1: heels of those two six touchdown games. Marcus is right.

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Speaker 1: If you of confidence in Roethlisberger as a QB one UH,

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Speaker 1: you can get him late. We saw that in our

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Speaker 1: mock draft. Same with Tony Romo, who I have seventh.

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Speaker 1: Same with Matt Ryan, who I have eight. UH. If

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Speaker 1: you want to play the game with Tom Brady, you

534
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Speaker 1: can draft him late, sit on him for four weeks

535
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Speaker 1: or however long he suspended if the suspension UH is changed.

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Speaker 1: Now I have Peyton at four and Breeze at five.

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Speaker 1: I've got Russell at three because I love the running

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Speaker 1: aspect of his game. I love the fact that he

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Speaker 1: now has an actual red zone target that is a

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Speaker 1: gamed Marshawn Lynch. It's now Jimmy Graham, who could catch

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Speaker 1: ten to twelve touchdowns. I just don't see his yardage

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Speaker 1: being the same. Breeze I think takes a step back,

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Speaker 1: although he'll still be excellent because they're gonna run the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit more. And Peyton Manning, I know

545
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Speaker 1: he was bad in the last four weeks, better than

546
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Speaker 1: anyone because he killed me, costing the championship against Matt

547
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Speaker 1: money Smith and a lot of you out there. But

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Speaker 1: look at his numbers in the first twelve games he

549
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Speaker 1: was he was awesome. So I don't think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see great spectacular pay Manning fifty five touchdown Peyton Manning,

551
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Speaker 1: but you're also not going to see the garbage you

552
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Speaker 1: saw from him in the last four weeks of fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Just keep in mind, though, that Gary Kubiak loves to

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Speaker 1: run the football, so this is not gonna be a

555
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Speaker 1: run and gun offense where Peyton is going to be

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Speaker 1: back in the shotgun. And it's weird to say about

557
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Speaker 1: Matt shop at some great fantasy years with Gary Kubiak

558
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Speaker 1: at the helm uh for the Houston Texans. Don't forget

559
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Speaker 1: where he was like leading the NFL and passing yardage

560
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Speaker 1: in that same run first off And I have this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my feelings on Peyton Manning are about the

562
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Speaker 1: same as my feelings on Drew Brees. That both these

563
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Speaker 1: guys will be just fine as your QB one. If

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Speaker 1: you're expecting the big video game numbers, they're just not

565
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Speaker 1: gonna happen this year. And I think with Peyton, especially

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Speaker 1: because of the fade we saw from him late in

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Speaker 1: the season last year. There I feel like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do their best to try and and save him early

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Speaker 1: in the year just so he has a little bit

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Speaker 1: more left in the arm when they get two weeks

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Speaker 1: you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and then you know, precipably

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Speaker 1: into the postseason as well. So I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll be just fine. Those guys will be just fine

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Speaker 1: as your number one quarterback. But if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for Drew Brees to go for five thousand yards

576
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: or something like that, you're gonna be disappointed. Yeah, And

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00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: every move they made in the offseason Marcus was geared

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Speaker 1: towards changing that offense and changing the team. Really, Graham

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Speaker 1: is gone, uh, and then you've got Stills gone. You

580
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Speaker 1: bring in two very good offensive lineman, Honors Pete from

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Speaker 1: the draft, and of course Max Swunger from the Seattle Seahawks.

582
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Speaker 1: Get Spiller to work in the short passing game exactly.

583
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Speaker 1: So this is a team that has changed they They've

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Speaker 1: they've obviously decided that what they've been doing the last

585
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Speaker 1: few years has not been working on offense, so they're

586
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Speaker 1: gonna change things up. Sean Payton is a guy who's

587
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Speaker 1: not gonna ever completely go away from the passing game,

588
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Speaker 1: which is why I love Brandon Cooks this season. But

589
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Speaker 1: you could see the Saints trying to run the ball

590
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Speaker 1: a little bit more with Mark Ingram, who finally finally

591
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Speaker 1: met expectations last year. And C. J. Spiller. Spiller is

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Speaker 1: interesting guys, because isn't it every single year we're all

593
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Speaker 1: about him and every single year he disappoints the year.

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Speaker 1: This is the year, this is You have to think

595
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Speaker 1: that this is it, this is okay. You play with

596
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Speaker 1: the Bills, not a great offensive team. This is it though,

597
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Speaker 1: you've got you've got the Saints, You've got Brief, You've

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Speaker 1: got Peyton. Uh, You've got an offense that will be very,

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Speaker 1: very conducive to fantasy success in terms of a guy

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Speaker 1: who can catch the ball out of the backfield, Reggie Bush,

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Speaker 1: Pierre Thomas. Uh, you've got guys who can do that.

602
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Cadet caught uh forty or fifty passes last year in

603
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Speaker 1: that offense. So Marcus is right, this this is but

604
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Speaker 1: he doesn't do it now. He ain't never never happened,

605
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Speaker 1: but staying getting back to quarterbacks real quick. But one

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Speaker 1: name that I did want to get to, uh Tom Brady,

607
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned him a little bit earlier, FABS. Obviously

608
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Speaker 1: we're waiting the year, but as we recorded this, we

609
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Speaker 1: have not yet heard anything on Tom Brady's appeal of

610
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Speaker 1: his suspension. So right now it's still sits at four

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Speaker 1: games as we're recording this podcast. By the time you

612
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Speaker 1: listen to it, maybe it's still a four. Maybe it's

613
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Speaker 1: been dropped. Who knows. But I mean, I'm looking at

614
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Speaker 1: this and I've got him at third team. Uh Fabs,

615
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Speaker 1: you've got him at ten, Alex, you have him at nine.

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Speaker 1: But it all kind of comes out to be the same.

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Speaker 1: He's a low end right now. He sits at the

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Speaker 1: low end QB one, maybe a high end QB two,

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Speaker 1: depending on on how you you know, who else you

620
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Speaker 1: draft on your roster. Um, let's just say for the

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Speaker 1: sake of argument, the suspension gets cut in half, so

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Speaker 1: he misses two games, he's back for week three. I

623
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Speaker 1: feel like he's is He's solidly back in the top

624
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Speaker 1: ten at that point, all right, for sure, Well he's

625
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Speaker 1: in my top ten right now. He's just at the

626
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Speaker 1: end of that. Yeah, he's just hanging on right now.

627
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Speaker 1: I would say he'd he'd probably move back up to six,

628
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Speaker 1: behind Drew Brees and ahead of Cam Newton. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking seven, right behind Newton, but ahead of Roethlisberger and Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: For me, Yeah, who was the name I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring up to Tannehill. We've talked about him a lot

632
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Speaker 1: of the podcast. I have him in the top ten. Marcus,

633
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Speaker 1: you have him in the top I've got him at nine.

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Speaker 1: FABS has him just outside at twelve, and he's He's

635
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Speaker 1: a guy that I might flip flop with Philip rivers

636
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Speaker 1: Um because there's a little bit of upside there. The

637
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: rivers you've kind of seen. You've seen already, so thank goodness,

638
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Roney in the middle of July, so I can still

639
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: change my mind. But these are not set in stone.

640
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: He's right on the cusp of QB low QBA. Which

641
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: is why I kind of like sliding him into the

642
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: top of the bottom half from my top ten. Is

643
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: because you know, we always talk about drafting upside at

644
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: so many other positions, and if you're there's nobody this

645
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: season probably with more upside that you said he's on

646
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: that cusp with Ryan Tannehill. Could he flop, sure, could

647
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: he slip back down to QB two, whatever, But with

648
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: the weapons that are there that offense, his maturation, his

649
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: new big deal, all the signs are pointing to a

650
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: great season for Ryan Tannehill. So he's somebody late. I

651
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: think I took him in our mock actually round twelve

652
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, I thought, I thought

653
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: you got really good value on him. He's a guy

654
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: that I I've really been pushing this year. I'm not

655
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: sure if he's gonna make my Ride or Die team

656
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: this year. You know, he's he's he's under consideration. We

657
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: are evaluating his prospects right now. But I like all

658
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the weapons they've put around him. They obviously are putting

659
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: him in a situation where it's time to sink or swim.

660
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: If you're Ryan sanne Hill and you know, of all

661
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: the things he does, the one thing I say, I like,

662
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, his ability to run

663
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: with the football, and it's not something people talk about

664
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: quite as much. And that why he compares him to

665
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson or Colin Kaepernick or even Cam Newton.

666
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: But Ryan santy Hill can get out of the pocket.

667
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: He can make some things happen that way, and that

668
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: is always it's always a great thing to have for

669
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: out of your quarterback position. Another name not to jump

670
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: the gun, but switching can get as many people in

671
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: here as possible. As we're moving through Teddy Bridgewater because Marcus,

672
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: I know you're a huge fan of Teddy and of

673
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: the three of us, have to have him ranked the

674
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: lowest by a wide margin too. Yeah, I know, and

675
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: I do. I've got him. I've got him at twenty

676
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: one right now, but I'm really feeling, like, you know,

677
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: I may move him up ahead of you guys like

678
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Dalton and Cutler. Um, it was more, it was less

679
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: about Teddy and more about I just I wonder about

680
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: the guys around him, about the weapons around him, and

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: how much that offense is going to lean on Adrian

682
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: Peterson now that he's back. Um, you know, I I

683
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: I told you I watched Cordarrel Patterson video and I

684
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: hated my life for like a half stomach ache I did.

685
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: I just felt so terrible about everything for a while,

686
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, And so I'm not big on Mike Wallace.

687
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, I just I wonder about the guys catching

688
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: the football from Teddy Bridgewater, but I like what he

689
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: offers as a quarterback. I just I'm not sure about

690
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: the guys around him. Charles Johnson is a guy who

691
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe is a deep sleeper. Mike

692
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Wallace is someone who is what he is. He can

693
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: stretch the field. Uh, he's a touchdown machine, but he

694
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: doesn't give you a ton of yardage UM. He was

695
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a top twenty wide receiver last year. From a fantasy perspective,

696
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: I think the the comeback of Kyle Rudolph is an

697
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: underrated aspect because if you look at North Turner's offenses,

698
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: the Titan is almost always utilized prominently, and Rudolph has

699
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: shown in the past that he this is a guy

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00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: who is UH a Pro Bowl m VP, who can

701
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: catch the football uh and make plays. He just has

702
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: to stay out of the trainer's room. He could be

703
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: that underrated part of that Vikings offense that we're not

704
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: talking about too much right now, that could really help

705
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: in the development of Teddy Bridgewater becoming uh a matchup

706
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: based fantasy quarterback this year and potentially even slide them

707
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: up into that low QB one range real quick. I'm

708
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: looking at a one particular name. I've got Joe Flacco

709
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: at fourteen. Uh, Fabs, you've got him an eighteen. Actually

710
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: haven't at seventeen. I guess that question of whether or

711
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: not Joe Flacco is elite in fantasy he's another Troy.

712
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Why can't we get Joe Flacco's postseason performances in the

713
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: right all right, So I gotta point one more out

714
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Speaker 1: maybe before we move positions here. Um, I guess I'm

715
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: the only one riding the Gino coaster this year, because

716
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: if you look at the rankings, Fab has FABS has

717
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: him at thirty one, You have him at twenty four.

718
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: And I maybe I was drunk when I did these.

719
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: You know that that Gino roller coaster might be the

720
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: one that gets stuck at the top and people are

721
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: stuck up there for days and uh and then Ryan

722
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick comes in. Now here's here's my defense. Oh man,

723
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I got James Coke, got code Uh my defensive Gino.

724
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean he might be a little too high. However,

725
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Chan Gailey has turned some bad quarterbacks into fantasy stars.

726
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: Are guys that are relevant. Ryan Fitzpatrick owes his house

727
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and all of his children's clothing and toys to Chan

728
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: Gailey because chan Gailey's offense helped Fitzpatrick get his monster

729
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: deal um. And now, for the first time, like forever,

730
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Gino Smith actually has weapons around him too. He's got

731
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, He's got Eric Decker, he has Devin Smith.

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00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, like, remember what he had, what he was

733
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: working with when he was a rookie. And each of

734
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: the last two years, towards the end of the year,

735
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Gino has has hit his stride in the last month.

736
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's all we're going to get.

737
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: I could rank him on the last one of the

738
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: season Decembers. You know, Gina Smith has played outrageous in December.

739
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: So why I guess I have him at eighteen is

740
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: this year. I'm hoping in his third year, he's got

741
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: a better offensive coordinator, better weapons, he finally puts the

742
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: all together and carries that into like a solid QB

743
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: two performance, like a great streaming option, maybe good playing

744
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: in daily leagues and stuff like that. Because he'll be

745
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: cheap in quick. You can get him in the last

746
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: round of drafts. A quick mention for Carson Palmer to

747
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: remember when he played last year, he was phenomenal. Uh,

748
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: he is not going to be drafted until the late rounds.

749
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: You can get him as a QB two. I think

750
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Franchise got him in around like fourteen or fifteen. Could

751
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: potentially be your QB one. Last year he averaged right

752
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: around point seven fantasy points per completion. Drew Stanton came

753
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: in in his absence average right around point six seven

754
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: fantasy points per completion, and that's pretty good for Drew Stanton.

755
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: This offense is geared towards success for the quarterback, and

756
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I love John Brown. You've got Pits Fitzgerald there, as

757
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: well as Michael Floyd in a pass catching running back

758
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: in Honore Ellington. So Palmer could be one of the

759
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: best draft bargains. Let's keep tabs on that knee. Hopefully

760
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: everything everything's been good so far. Should we should? We

761
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: jump to everybody's favorite position. Let's move on to the

762
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: running backs. Let's go running back. So this is I

763
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: think where maybe I would say the biggest question, but

764
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: I think certainly the the largest debate at this point,

765
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: because I think we're all agreed that a running back

766
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: is going to go with the number one overall pick

767
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: in pretty much every league, at least most of your

768
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: standard league. You're gonna go running back number one. But

769
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: question remains. I mean, Adrian Peterson is back, so you know,

770
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: even with a year off, everybody still is big on him, understandably.

771
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey, who had a really good year after he

772
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: had a slow start, bounced back, played really well last year.

773
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: Levian Bell, who I think would have been the consensus

774
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: number one had not been suspended because depending on the

775
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: way he played last year. So you've got three guys

776
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: who could make a claim to be the number one

777
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: overall pick. And then you've got guys like you know,

778
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Arian Foster, Jamal Charles, kind of Marshawn Lanchall hanging on

779
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: the periphery right there. Um, So let's just put it

780
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: out there right now, Phabbs, who is number one? Adrian Peterson.

781
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: He was the player I drafted number one overall on

782
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: our mock draft. Uh. Again, I know there's risk with

783
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, but I can give you risk with almost

784
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: every single number of my top ten running backs, every

785
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: single one, maybe sans Eddie Lacy, who might come with

786
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: the least amount of risk. Also not as high of

787
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: a ceiling as the other guys, but correct so for me.

788
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: I know he's thirty. I know he didn't play last year.

789
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I talked to d' angelo Williams about it, and D'Angelo

790
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: actually thinks that's a good thing. You got a year

791
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: to rest, man after uh years of punishment on your body.

792
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna be motivated. He's playing in north Turner's offense.

793
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: I've said it before and I'll say it again. North

794
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: Turner's offense not only very good for tight ends, but

795
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: especially good for running backs. Just asked Emmett Smith and Ladanian, Thomlinson,

796
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: Lamont Jordan Frank or Ricky Williams. All these guys had

797
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: great years from a fantasy perspective under north Turner. Uh,

798
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: he's got a quarterback in Teddy Bridgewater who I think

799
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: will keep defenses a little more honest than Christian Ponder.

800
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: And let's let's put it this way, guys, Peterson is

801
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: someone who we've doubted in the past, especially after he

802
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: came off of the A C L Almost. I have

803
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: faith in the man now. One quick thing here also

804
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: is that this week on NFL dot Com, I'm gonna

805
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: be people projecting the top two running backs for every

806
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: single team in the National Football League based on fantasy

807
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: points per touch based on UH two thousand fourteen numbers

808
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: based on offensive coordinator tendencies. UH. And it's gonna take

809
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: me forever. I just started it today. So the Vikings

810
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: are Adrian Peterson and so check that out. Yeah, it's

811
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: probably Adrian Peterson and a smidge of Jerick mccarri a smidge,

812
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: But Peterson's my guy. Marcus is right. Bell would have

813
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: been the number one guy and no one would have questioned.

814
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: Three games suspension put a dent in new his value. Um,

815
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: real cool on Adrian Peterson. I mean, you know, I

816
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: think we're all agreed after what he did coming back

817
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: off off knee injury and running for two thousand yards,

818
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: we are not doubting him. He is part Cyborg. I

819
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: think he's a Terminator Genesis. Actually, I think he's got

820
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: a cameo. Would you mention that you see it? Yeah,

821
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: it was about I'm seeing it tonight. I'm not thrilled

822
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: about it. So I'll let you guys know next week.

823
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: What I thought when when Yalhart shows up on Wednesday

824
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: and he's morose in the office or or hungover. You

825
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: know what the best thing about that movie is is

826
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: that they did a Arnold Schwarzenegger terminator voice over for

827
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: My Ways app. And so now everywhere I go, turn right,

828
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: turn left, right, seeing Amelia Clark our birthday for birthday

829
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: buddies me and but anyway Peterson. Um, Okay, So obviously

830
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: we know this guy is is a freak. He's thirty

831
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: years old. And you know, traditionally have talked about thirty

832
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: years being the the wall that running backs hit. But

833
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: we've seen in recent years guys like Frank Gore have

834
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: been able to succeed, you know, past the age of

835
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: thirty smart. I mean, there are guys that are that

836
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: are there? Is it that it's not the you know,

837
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: the the downfall we once believed it to me or

838
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: all of these guys who succeeded just kind of anomalies. Well,

839
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: Frank or is never gonna die. He's gonna look, he's

840
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna be the last man on earth. I'm gonna look

841
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: at Will four team be like, what are you doing

842
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: here in that passed away and it's just gonna be

843
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Frank or Um. But I think it's it's part of

844
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: the times. It's part of the training, the you know,

845
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: the health, the regiment these guys are on. And also

846
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: some of these guys, like with Peterson, he misty year

847
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: for set. He wasn't he thirty last year and he

848
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: had a great year of twenty nine. He also didn't

849
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of exactly right and have a lot

850
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: of miles. So I think that comes into it. Frank

851
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Or's isn't anomaly that guy ages a part of it.

852
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: I think it's more um the number of carries. Like

853
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Clinton portis when he got into his late twenties, you

854
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: could see him starting to break down because he had

855
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: so much work. I mean, Terrell Davis broke down before

856
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: he was thirty because of all the work that he

857
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: had in a short period of time. And then you're

858
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: seeing a guy like Peterson a lot of work on him,

859
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: but he's coming off a year where he didn't do much.

860
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: And again Marcus said he's a cyborg. So there are

861
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: certainly a lot of examples of running backs we hit thirty.

862
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: Wee can mentioned Matt Forte right now. Forte is gonna

863
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: turn thirty uh later on this year. Is he someone

864
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: to be concerned about? I don't think most people are

865
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: concerned about Forte. Although you're not getting a hundred two

866
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: catches out of him, no chance those are gonna go

867
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: potentially to Forte or Foreset, who could see fifty to

868
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: sixty catches easily. So you also have to consider the

869
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: depth at the running back position. Uh, it's not great,

870
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: it's not great. You've got a lot of question marks.

871
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Can DeMarco Murray do it again? Will Melvin Gordon shine?

872
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: Will Frank Gore continue to be this energizer bunny from

873
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective? Can't Foreset do it again? Can Carlos

874
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: Hide take over where Gore left off in San Francisco?

875
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller now has j thank you to contend with

876
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: in Miami Ce. I like that T. J. Yelden is

877
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: a question mark. Honre Ellington is a question mark. I

878
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: like Latavius Murray, but he's no guarantee to be the

879
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: guy who's the I in Dallas. Lots of question marks,

880
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: So you're going to be almost forced to put your

881
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: faith in some of these older running backs who might

882
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: have a lot of mileage on that. You mentioned Matt Forte,

883
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: and obviously he had the phenomenal year last year. Now

884
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: there's a new coaching staff in in Chicago that he's

885
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: gonna have to to deal with their. UM, I look

886
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: at him, I look at Marshawn Lynch, two guys who

887
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years have been just absolutely

888
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: hands down fantasy studs, no doubt about it. This year

889
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: they both come in and there are a lot of

890
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: people that are worried about him. I mean with Lynch,

891
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: you've got the huge workload. He he's gonna be twenty

892
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: nine or you just turned twenty nine in April. He's

893
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: got a huge workload. Matt Forte is thirty years old.

894
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: You know which one of these two do you feel

895
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: like comes with the least amount of risk. I'm gonna

896
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: go to Lynch, and uh that's because he did you

897
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: watch him run last year? I mean he ran like

898
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: a guy who was twenty four years old. He doesn't

899
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: seem to age. We haven't seen any signs of breakdown.

900
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Now we haven't seen that from Forte either. Um. But

901
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Forte is also now going to be in a different

902
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: offense with a different offensive coordinator who's not going to

903
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: utilize him as much in terms of catching the ball

904
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, and Forte didn't have a lot

905
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: of rushing yards last year either. Lynch will lose some

906
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: touchdown opportunities to Jimmy Graham in the red zone. He

907
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: had seventeen last year. He's not going to hit that

908
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: mark again. The yardage will be there, the touches will

909
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: be there, the receptions should likely be there as well.

910
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: But I just have more trust in Lynch than I

911
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: have in Forte because Lynch is in an offense that

912
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: is basically predicated on him succeeding, which is the motor

913
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: in that offense, whereas the motor in the Chicago offense

914
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: kind of remains to be seen this year. Is it

915
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna be Jay Cutler's arm? Is it gonna be Forte again?

916
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Can he beat that motor by himself like he was

917
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: for a lot of it last year. But we you know,

918
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot more question marks. I'm with you. I

919
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: think Lynch is the safer bet in the top ten

920
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: of those two. It's close, but that's just the guy

921
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: i'd want. Definitely looking at some other names that are

922
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: interesting in our rankings here again, you can find them

923
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: online NFL dot Com, Slash Fantasy Slash Rankings Jonathan Stewart.

924
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: We know, you know, Jon Stewart is leaving the Daily

925
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: Show soon, but this j Stuke keeps on rolling along.

926
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: He'll be back in Carolina for another year. I've got

927
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: him at eighteen FABS, You've got him at twenty two.

928
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Alex has him at fourteen. A fairly wide variance of

929
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: opinions on Jonathan Stewart, Alex, I will let you start.

930
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: Since you have him rank the highest, what do you see?

931
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: What do you believe in him that that has you

932
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: have him so high? Well, thankfully we all have him

933
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: roughly about in that RB two range for FABS. He's

934
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: just a touch outside. What I like about him this

935
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: year is what he put on tape last year. He

936
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: ran um some of the best running of scene in

937
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: his career. And now what always kind of dogged him

938
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: in d'angela Williams the last few years was Yes, sure, injuries,

939
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: but they were a two headed monster and you didn't

940
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: know who was gonna get the touches, who was getting

941
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: at the yards. You know who's going at the goal

942
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: line carries. Now this backfield is Jay Stews to lose.

943
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Cameron Artis pain is there and we'll probably get some

944
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: rotational work to keep Stuart fresh, but for the most part,

945
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: it's the Daily Show and that's what it's gonna be.

946
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: If I had more faith in his durability, he'd be

947
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: in my top twenty. I mean thirteen games last year,

948
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: six the year before, nine, the year before. The previous

949
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: four years he played in a minimum of fourteen every year,

950
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: so he was also not a featured guy. It was

951
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams who was the guy back then. And even

952
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: D'Angelo um and I mentioned him because you know, he's

953
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: a good dude and we talk and uh he's even said, hey,

954
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: what does Carolina doing behind j Stu? Because he has

955
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: a tendency to find time in the trainers room more

956
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: often than not. If I if I had a crystal ball,

957
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: and and boy I wish I did, and I could

958
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: look into the season and see that he was going

959
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: to play at least fourteen games, he'd probably be in

960
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: my top fifteen. Talent. Check on Jonathan Stewart's prospects. You're

961
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: doing well, this is only after market, you know the lotto.

962
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: I'd for that, you know that kind of thing, but uh, well,

963
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: I'd still be looking it up for fantasy football I think,

964
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what, it wouldn't be fun if you knew

965
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen. It was fun injury injuries are

966
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: darn near impossible to predict. And uh, I just think

967
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: it's it's tough to write him off like that, and

968
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: I will take that upside in that offense with a

969
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: healthy Cam Newton and the Twin Towers and Funches and

970
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: Benjamin on the outside and hope that Jay stew delivers.

971
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: See I come. I land kind of in between both

972
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: of you here, and I like, I love Jonathan Stewart's ability,

973
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: and I always thought that he was the best running

974
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: back they had there. And I'm always wondering why, even

975
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: when Stewart was healthy, it seemed like de Angela Williams

976
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: was getting a lot more carries than I would have anticipated.

977
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: And I just have this bad feeling that we're going

978
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: to see the same with Cameron artist pain that you know,

979
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Jay Stu sitting there, you know, having

980
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: a good season, and all of a sudden, you're gonna

981
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: see Cap jump in there and and get some touches.

982
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know. I want to be optimistic,

983
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: and that's why I kind of have him as a

984
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: low RB two sort of thing that you'll get some

985
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: opportunities there, but maybe not as many as you think

986
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: you should. Positive Waite Marcus, So you're saying you have

987
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: a bad feeling about this and Sully's not paying attention.

988
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: Perfect opportunity to use that line, the Han Solo. Where's

989
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: Han Solo when we need him? There's Han Solo? This

990
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: is this is perfect opportunity. Over We went a long

991
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: way around the block to get to that one. Yeah,

992
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: we did, anyway, or last one in our RB section

993
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: here looking at the Giants, They've got Rashad Jennings, They've

994
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: got Shane Vereen, they've got Andre Williams. That seems like

995
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: a mess that I don't really want any part of.

996
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: That's true until Jennings potentially injures himself, which has been

997
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: an issue for him in the last few years. But

998
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: he's the most talented and the most well rounded running

999
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: back in that backfield. And we saw that last year

1000
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: and the year before when he was in Oakland when

1001
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: he really looked good. But when he played, he was good,

1002
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: and he was putting up pretty good fantasy numbers. Now

1003
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: the g men bringing Vereen who's the pass catching uh.

1004
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: He reminds me of a day of megatt because megat

1005
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: was was famous Giant in the past. Then you've got

1006
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: Andre Williams, who could potentially steal some goal line works.

1007
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: So you've got three running backs who have three different

1008
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: sort of skill sets that could basically crush every one

1009
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: of that trio's fantasy appear You and I basically have

1010
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: the same rankings just flipped. I had Verene at thirty

1011
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: because I like his passick catching ability as offense. I think,

1012
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: especially if they're running a lot of hurry up, Verene

1013
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: could make hay similar to what he did in New England.

1014
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: And then I have Jennings at thirty four. You on

1015
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: the flip side of Jennings at thirty, Verene at thirty three,

1016
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Jennings four, then Verena. Admittedly, I can that Verene

1017
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: might be a little bit low, that he could probably

1018
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: stand and be moved up a little bit in my ranking.

1019
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: It's not Ben Verene to Shange, it's Shane Verne. It's

1020
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: not even brock Verene. I know, I just I guess

1021
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: I can just I'm really pessimistic about what the Giants

1022
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: are doing with their running game and with their running backs,

1023
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: So I you know, I just I'm kind of staying

1024
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: away from them right now, um speaking of committees. And

1025
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: I see you writing it down right now. I thought

1026
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: about it too, just as just as you were writing this, Alex.

1027
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only one who has any

1028
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: faith in Joke Bell this year. Like I feel like I'm, yeah,

1029
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: you are philosophic should because I believe that he still

1030
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: has something left that I believe he was the better

1031
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: of the two backs between he and Reggie Bush lash

1032
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: And I just don't know that Amir Abdullah jumps in

1033
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: right away. I think I think Abdullah is talented, I think,

1034
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: but I think he plays the Reggie Bush role this

1035
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: year that it's still is primarily Joyke bells Now, I

1036
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: don't believe Joike's statement that he's gonna run for twelve

1037
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: hundred yards. I think I think I did the math.

1038
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't mother believes that's right. Like I think I

1039
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: think you would have to get like three hundred and

1040
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: five carries to get to twelve hundred yards based on

1041
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: what the average per carry last year. So I don't

1042
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: see that happening. But I don't know. I still believe

1043
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: that JOYD. Bell is is going to be a decent

1044
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: RB two and that he's going to lead the way

1045
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: in that Lion's backfield. I've got Abdullah ranked ahead of

1046
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: him because I think Abdullah is gonna end up seeing

1047
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: more of the backfield touches as decision progresses. Will Bell

1048
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: be the guy to start the season, yes, Will he

1049
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: finished the season as the guy? I'm not so sure.

1050
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: He's coming off the Achilles the knee. He's twenty nine

1051
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: years old when the season starts. He turns twenty nine

1052
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: next month, and I know he doesn't have a lot

1053
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: of wear and tear on his body. But this is

1054
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: a guy who has not exactly been a game changer,

1055
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: exact game changing kind of running back, and I think

1056
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Abdullah is that type of runner. He's a smaller guy,

1057
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: but he can catch the ball out of the backfield.

1058
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: The Lions coaches are raving about him during O T

1059
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: a S. Let's see what happens in training. Can't remember

1060
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: Abdullah was given the opportunity to shine in O T

1061
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: S because Bell's coming off of the injuries and oh

1062
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: goodness did he Oh yeah, get that train on the tracks.

1063
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: If draft of Lions running back. In my opinion, it

1064
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: should be I'm the highest on Abdullah of Us. I

1065
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: have him at twenty four. I grabbed him in I

1066
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: think the seventh round of our mock. I was happy.

1067
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: I wanted him to everything. Everything I'm hearing everything I watched.

1068
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a character guy. He's strong for his size,

1069
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: he's faster, size, he can, He's got every move in

1070
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: the book. He can joke, he can steph arm, he

1071
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: can spin. And I think as much as I like

1072
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: joke Bell, and I love his story coming from Wayne State,

1073
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, hometown kid playing for the Lions. It's like

1074
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: Fabiana kind of said, talent wins out at the end

1075
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: of the day in this backfield. And whether or not

1076
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: Joke Bell starts in week one is that I don't

1077
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: think he'll keep that. He's still going to have value.

1078
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: I think I got him, you know, in the thirties

1079
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: or something like that. But Abdula is the Detroit running

1080
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: back I want to own. All right, let's move on

1081
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers um and I feel like, you know, we

1082
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: we talked. We actually talked a little bit about dev

1083
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: Bryant at the beginning of the show. I've got him

1084
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: at number two. Obviously that's going to change if he

1085
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: designs he's going to sit out some games. I mean,

1086
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: if we get a couple of weeks into the preseason

1087
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: and Des isn't around, that ranking falls a little bit,

1088
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: but I still feel confident with him. Is at two.

1089
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: I've got the Marrius at three sitting in fours. Calvin Johnson. Now,

1090
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Megatron is still Megatron. He's gonna be fantastic, But are

1091
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: we past the days where he is just automatically hands

1092
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: down the number one and wide receiver off the board

1093
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: in fantasy footballs? Is that done? Now? I couldn't slide

1094
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: him farther than two. I think you gotta take Brown

1095
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: first based on what he's done the last couple of

1096
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: weeks and everything we said about Roethlisberger earlier. But I mean,

1097
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: this is Megatron we're talking about, and he was injured,

1098
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: injured bad last year for a while. So I I

1099
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: looked at Dez, I looked at you know, Damarius, looked

1100
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: at Julio Beckham, and I just couldn't put anybody above

1101
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: Calvin because he's been so good for solo. I've got

1102
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: Calvin at three. I've got d Thomas ahead of him.

1103
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: I got Mega Tron ahead of Dez. And if if

1104
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers that Mega Tryna had last year.

1105
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Sure we had a couple of down weeks, but look

1106
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: at what Golden Tate did when he was gone. Golden

1107
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Tate ended up being a top twenty five Fantasy wide

1108
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: receiver last year. Uh on the strength of four or

1109
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: five weeks that Calvin missed and that he wasn't healthy.

1110
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Of others, Megatron is the man Matthew Stafford loves throw ball.

1111
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: He's got as long as Calvin and Johnson is healthy.

1112
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he is a top three fan to

1113
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: see wide receiver who I would not be shocked if

1114
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: he ends up number one at the end. Does that

1115
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: tunnel vision open up a little bit more simply because

1116
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: of what you said about Golden Tate Now that now

1117
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: that Matt Stafford knows he's got a guy that he's

1118
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: comfortable with. I mean, he never was able to gain

1119
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: that sort of comfort with you know, Nate Burlson or

1120
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: you know Ryan Broyles when he was healthy, or whoever

1121
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: else was on the field. He seems to have that

1122
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: rapport with Golden Tate. Does that change maybe his desire

1123
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: to always throw in the direction of number eighty one. Well,

1124
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: to me, he is his his first option, he always

1125
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: will be his first option. And again, you look at

1126
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: the games that Tate went off when Calvin was injured,

1127
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of those targets are gonna go to Megatron

1128
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: if he's healthy and on that football field. Yeah, no,

1129
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think if you were to

1130
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: ask Matt Stafford, he Calvin Johnson has never not been

1131
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: open in his career, Calvin probably say the same thing.

1132
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: That's probably true. Um. I feel like at this point,

1133
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: before we get into some other names, I feel like

1134
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: I have to give a public service announcement. Oh Beckham

1135
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: is not a first round wide receiver, y'all. He's just not.

1136
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: He's not. He's very good, he's outstanding, and he's a

1137
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: top ten guy, and he's a chance to be a

1138
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: top five guy. I just I want to put this

1139
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: out here because I just know he's going to be

1140
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: the most overdrafted player in fantasy football this year. And

1141
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: I know if Chris Westling, our friend from around the NFL,

1142
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: here's this, he will take Umbridge with me because he's

1143
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: already put Beckham in the Hall of fame. He's not

1144
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: a first round wide receiver. You all that. I just

1145
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: I wish we had a little star with the NBC,

1146
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, the more you know, right, I wish you

1147
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: had that right now. But you know, drop for p

1148
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: S A S. That's all. I just had to get

1149
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: that off. I will tell you this, I think at

1150
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: least a little bit of the hype has has sort

1151
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: of decreased, because at the end of last year, that

1152
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: was the question was insane. He was gonna be the

1153
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: number one first round pick. Now, I think people are

1154
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: sort of coming to their senses unless you're a guy

1155
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: who who leaned on him and and won a championship

1156
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: because of him, or maybe root for the New York Giants.

1157
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: And to me, he's a second round pick. And there's

1158
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with being a second round pick in fantasy

1159
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: when you're not a running back. That's pretty good. And

1160
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: he's the top of the second round pick. And I

1161
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: think there are a little bit of concerns here because

1162
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: he averaged seventeen Fantasy points a game last year. That's

1163
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: not gonna happen again. In Victor Cruz, everything sounds like

1164
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: he could be back, although I'm worried about him coming

1165
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: from that. Patel a tendon injury. But there's a potential

1166
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: where OH b J loses targets there. There's been a

1167
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: lot of talk about how good Ruben Randall's been. They

1168
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: added Chain Verne as a pass catching running back out

1169
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: of the backfield, so the targets might not be there,

1170
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: uh in bulk like they were last year with O

1171
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: b J. Last year when Eli Manning would throw the

1172
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: ball to O b J and double and triple coverage,

1173
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have to do that this year because

1174
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: he's got some other options there in the offense. Is

1175
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: he still a top ten wide receiver? Come on? Of

1176
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: course he is first round pick. Marcus is right, he

1177
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: is not speaking. I'm looking at this. I think this

1178
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: might be a good place to jump into. Is we're

1179
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: all chalk in just different orders for the first seven

1180
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: wide receivers in some order, it's Antonio Brown does Bryant

1181
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: to Marus Thomas, Calvin Johnson, Jody Nelson, Odell Beckham and

1182
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. After that, it's where it gets a little murky.

1183
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of the same names. We got him

1184
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: shifting around a little bit. Why don't we talk about uh,

1185
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: the these pair guys Randall Cobb and Manny Sanders, who

1186
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: are both the number two options on the team, but

1187
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: they're the two highest ranked number two wide receivers. We've

1188
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: gotten to say, where do you guys got on what

1189
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: do you like? I've got Randall Cob at number nine,

1190
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I've got Sanders a little bit lower at fourteen. Um,

1191
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I think that Sanders was

1192
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: I will say one year wonder. I think he puts

1193
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: up good numbers again this year. But I do think

1194
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: that some of those targets, especially like the short throws

1195
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: that the little wide receiver screens, I think a few

1196
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: more of those go to to Marius Thomas and go

1197
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: to an into handoffs or turn into handoffs. Correct Um,

1198
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb I love, and I think he's going to

1199
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: push Jordy Nelson uh to be the de facto number.

1200
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there are one in one a situation in

1201
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: that Green Bay offense. And I think, you know, Randall

1202
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Cobb made challenge to you know, to lead that that

1203
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: team in targets this year. I think there's two players

1204
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: that could make or break a lot of fantasy teams

1205
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be drafted so high. One of them

1206
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: is Mike Evans. Okay, I have him ranked eighth overall.

1207
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: He was the tenth best wide receiver in Fantasy football

1208
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: last year. A lot of that came on the strength

1209
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: of his twelve touchdowns, his yardage and his receptions not great.

1210
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: They weren't bad, but there's much there's there. There's there's

1211
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: a whole lot of room for improvement with those two.

1212
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets back to twelve touchdowns,

1213
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: maybe he has ten, but the receptions in the yardage

1214
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: go up. I have him as a second round pick.

1215
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: The second guy is Brandon Cooks. I got you guys know.

1216
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: I had to mention. I love Brandon Cooks. If he

1217
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: can produce what we expect him to produce, he could

1218
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: end up being in that low end wide receiver one territory,

1219
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: some somebody who can finish in the seven to ten

1220
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: range at the end of the season, and you can

1221
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: get him, probably for a third or fourth round pick.

1222
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: He's got to stay healthy, but that's everybody every I

1223
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: would absolutely take him in the third or fourth round,

1224
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: depending on Again, in our draft, we all do the

1225
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: same thing. We all know. We got to know how

1226
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: all the other people are gonna draft all wait on quarterbacks,

1227
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: which we all go running your league the league drafting,

1228
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: don't follow our Yahoo draft patterns or whatever. If your

1229
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: league goes quarterbacks first, by a quarterback early, get a

1230
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: quarterback early by the league. In our in our mock draft,

1231
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: I took Brandon Cooks in the fourth round. Right. Well,

1232
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: actually he's gonna go third or fourth round if you're

1233
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: in a ten or twelve team league. That's dependent, but

1234
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna go no later than the fourth round because

1235
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: of the quarterback he has, because of this system is

1236
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: in because of the losses the Saint suffered or they

1237
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: were self inflicted losses with Jimmy Graham and Kenny Stills

1238
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: both being traded. But the opportunities are going to be

1239
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: there for him to break out, but to peel back

1240
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: the current further. Matt Harmon and I actually roommates, and

1241
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: last night we were talking about Brandon Cooks and we

1242
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: were both a tad worried just because that third round

1243
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: or fourth round price tag is so high for Cooks

1244
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: in an offense where like we said we said earlier,

1245
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: it's going more run heavy. Spiller is gonna spiller. Let's

1246
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: not forget Reggie Bush and his rookie year had like

1247
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: ninety five catches in that offense. Spiller could very easily

1248
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: have close to a hundred catches in that Offense's going

1249
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: to eat into a lot of those. I think James

1250
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: co is like kind of you know, the ghost of Hell,

1251
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: little ghost of co is here. Um. However, somebody else

1252
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: that I took right after you took Cooks that I

1253
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: love in the fourth round is DeAndre new Hopkins. Because

1254
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: speaking of targets leaving and targets that are gonna come,

1255
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: Hopkins and over hundred targets last year and saw like

1256
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: a hundred forty walk out the door went under. Johnson left,

1257
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: And you're not gonna tell me that Cecil Shorts or

1258
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Strong are going to come in and take a

1259
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: hunter and twenty targets. No, he's no, he's not. Johnson

1260
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: used to lead the league in targets for years with

1261
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: like a d eight plus targets. So if Nuke gets that,

1262
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: even with the garbage quarterback under center, he's gonna put

1263
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: the big question mark Because Okay, Ryan Fitzpatrick is not uh,

1264
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, not not the best quarterback on the planet,

1265
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett,

1266
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a whole lot out of him. So

1267
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the one downfall with him. With Hopkins,

1268
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: I love him, I love the upside. I think he's

1269
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: had top ten wide shiver from a potential perspective, but

1270
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback position could hold him down just a little bit.

1271
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: Like Mike Evans said, the quarterback position held him down

1272
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: last year in Tampa Bay. Okay, another name, Um, and

1273
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: I saw this. You mentioned got Matt Harmon. Who for

1274
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: a guy who just got here. He's gotten his name

1275
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: on this podcast a whole lot. All right, It's kind

1276
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: of weird, but he was you know, new guys got

1277
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: to buy lunch, by the way. We told him that

1278
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: yesterday too. Um. He tweeted earlier on Tuesday about Brandon

1279
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: LaFell and the fact that Brandon Lefel was a top

1280
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: twenty five wide receiver Fantasy wise last year. And I

1281
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: mean I'm looking, I've got him ranked at twenty three. Um.

1282
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and you guys having the thirty four.

1283
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: I feel like when we talk about the Patriots, we

1284
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: talked about their past catchers, We talked about Gronk maybe Edelman,

1285
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: but there was a point last year where Tom Brady

1286
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: had eyes for Brandon Lefell, and it's are we looking

1287
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: at okay? You know I couldn't that I might possibly,

1288
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, be a little a bit punch drunk, and

1289
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: I have him at twenty three, But are we kind

1290
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: of forgetting about this guy? I think though I might

1291
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: bump him up a little more if brady suspension gets dropped.

1292
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: But when you're coming into that offense and if Jimmy

1293
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is under center for four weeks, that's why he's

1294
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: not higher. It's gonna be gunning for Edelman and Gronk

1295
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: because those are gonna be his safest options. Uh. That's

1296
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: why I feel like, you know, having him at thirty

1297
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: four is in that safe like wide receiver three ish

1298
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: range discussion where I'm happy to roster him, but I'm

1299
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: not going to reach for him by any stretch yet.

1300
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: The good thing about Lafella is that when you started

1301
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: him last year, a lot of times he didn't put

1302
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: up great numbers, but he didn't kill you. Uh. He

1303
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: had a hundred nineteen, a touchdown, seven and two touchdowns,

1304
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: four and a touchdown and fifty three and a touchdown.

1305
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: Then he had a few weeks where he had sixty

1306
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: two ninety eight, but he was your three or your flex,

1307
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: so in the standard league, he's not killing you. Then

1308
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: he had thirty eight and two touchdowns the last three games,

1309
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: sixty six, sixty four and seventy not bad numbers from

1310
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: your flex or your three. And if you're in a

1311
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: PPR league, over the last three weeks, he gave you

1312
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: seven team catches. Uh, I will move him up if

1313
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: Tom brady suspension is cutting half or uh decreased a

1314
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: little bit. But when Brady got suspended, I dropped them

1315
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: down a little bit into that three or four range.

1316
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: But Marcus is right, and these are the players that

1317
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: you have to look out for. They're not the guys

1318
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: who have the sexy names, but they're the guys who produce.

1319
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: So here's my argument for Brandon lefl I mean he

1320
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: was second on the team and in receiving touchdowns last

1321
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: year he had seven. Gronk obviously number one with with twelve,

1322
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: and you just start to wonder at some point, Look,

1323
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: Gronk is a machine. He's just a big hulk of

1324
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: a of a man who stands there in the end

1325
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: zone and gets open and catches touchdowns, but as teams

1326
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: really try to neutralize him. Even if you're Jimmy Garoppolo,

1327
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: don't you want to have another big target you can

1328
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: throw the ball up to somewhere down near the end zone,

1329
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: and Brandon Lefel I think offers that. Now. You know,

1330
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't expect double digit touchdown season out of him,

1331
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: but I would think six to eight touchdowns is another

1332
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: reasonable number. He can approach maybe a thousand yards this year,

1333
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: and I think I think that's all doable for him.

1334
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: I do sidled so that um now, but I agree

1335
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: with you. He's a player much like I would say

1336
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: someone in the neighborhood of a Marcus Colston who people

1337
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: might be overlooking a little bit. Opportunities could be there though. Okay,

1338
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: so speaking of of minter Marcus Colston, speaking of aging

1339
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: veteran wide receivers, we talked about the Gino coaster. I

1340
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: think it's only fair. We talked about Brandon Marshall then

1341
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: and what the future holds for him now that he

1342
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: is in Gotham. I loved him last year. I actually

1343
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: have him on a Dynasty League team, which looked a

1344
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: lot better when he was playing in Chicago. I wish

1345
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: I could take I wish I could take that back now.

1346
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: But I do think that that he and Gino Smith,

1347
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: in some weird way might be good for each other.

1348
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: They'll have to be good for each other on somebody

1349
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: else's roster because I'm not gonna draft him. But I mean,

1350
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: I think he's got potential as a you know, midd

1351
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: low wide receiver three for you this shop, that's kind

1352
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: of where we all have him slotted to. Yeah, I

1353
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: have I see. I look at trends man. His worst

1354
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 1: seasons in the league were the seasons where he wasn't

1355
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: with Jake Cutler, and I'll never forget at the end

1356
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: of uh last year, and then we had free agency,

1357
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: and and and then Marshall ended up with the Jets.

1358
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: There was a meme out there or or or an

1359
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: image of graveyard and all the gravestones had all of

1360
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: these Jets wide receivers who were really good at one

1361
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: point in their career went to New York and stunk,

1362
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: like Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes one good year. But

1363
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: he went to New York and he was He was

1364
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: not a good fantasy player at all. Um, you've got

1365
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: Eric Decker, who if he didn't now over two hundred

1366
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: yards in that last game, would have really had horrible

1367
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: numbers compared to what he did in Denver. Now, of

1368
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: course you have Mr Marshall going there. He's always been

1369
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: a top ten wide receiver in rankings when he's had

1370
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: Jake Cutler, even when he was in Miami he was

1371
01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. I can't trust with Jake Cutler there,

1372
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: So I mean, I just, I just I can't see him.

1373
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: I can't see him putting up these huge numbers UH

1374
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: with without Cutler and with a guy like Geno Smith

1375
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: throwing him the football. That's why I have them ranked

1376
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: at five. Will I take him as a mid three

1377
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: at some point in the middle till later rounds? I

1378
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: mean I probably would, but you can tell by the

1379
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: town of my voice. I'm not real thrilled the bottom

1380
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, And I think that's kind of how

1381
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel. I mean, I know that's

1382
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 1: how a lot of people felt when Eric Decker left

1383
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: Denver and UH and went to New York. You know.

1384
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: So I think I think Brandon Marshall probably fits into

1385
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: the same category. Does he absolutely does. There's been a lot.

1386
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: Look at the look at the numbers. There's been a

1387
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: lot of Jets wide receivers who come in. It's almost

1388
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: like Seattle. Seattle had that stretch to where you know,

1389
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: Nate Burlison, our guy here at NFL Network went there,

1390
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: didn't didn't have great numbers. T J. Houshman Zada, same

1391
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Uh, there was a bunch of those

1392
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: type of wide receivers who went to Seattle. Same thing

1393
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Now it's starting to happen with them

1394
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: where you've got big names going there and floundering in

1395
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: the statutes, no doubt. Real quick, before we wrapped this up,

1396
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: let's get over to the tight ends. There's not a lot.

1397
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: It's got a lot to talk about with the tight ends.

1398
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean obviously Graham one and to some combination of

1399
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: Olson and Kelsey in the next couple of spots there.

1400
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: The first name that I see the bringing that that

1401
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: I think is we're talking about is Julius Thomas, who

1402
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: obviously was a beast playing in Denver with that Bronco offense,

1403
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: now goes to Jacksonville, were he'll be catching passes from

1404
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: Blake Bortle that like Bordles that is certainly a a

1405
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: exactly certainly a downgrade from catching passes from Peyton Manning.

1406
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: I've got him at are Actually I know, Fabs, you've

1407
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: got him at six. Five, I have him at seven.

1408
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry seven, Um, but I've got him at five.

1409
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: I actually said you have him at five. Also, um,

1410
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. For me, he was like

1411
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: a reluctant number five to me. I don't know, Alex,

1412
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: how did you feel? I mean, you've got the same spot,

1413
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: same I had. I had been hating on him more

1414
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: in the off season, but that's kind of regressed as

1415
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's right. This guy is kind

1416
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: of a freak athlete, and Blake Bortles is gonna target him.

1417
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: There's been some good whispers out of there, and it's

1418
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: it's a crap shoot after you get out of that

1419
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: top four of tight ends. So I thought, why not,

1420
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: I'll put youth in athleticism at number five. The only

1421
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: reason why he's even in my top seven, uh is

1422
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: because the position stinks this year. It really does. It

1423
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: could improve if some of these younger guys like Austin

1424
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: Sefari and Jenkins, or or someone like a Josh Hill

1425
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: comes out and makes an impact. But Julius Thomas's strength

1426
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: from a fantasy standpoint in Denver was the fact that

1427
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: he was a red zone machine twenty four touchdowns in

1428
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: just twenty seven games. He might not score twenty four

1429
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns the rest of his career in Jacksonville because they

1430
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: don't get into the red zone. They had one of

1431
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: the worst offenses in the league last year. Yes, it

1432
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 1: should improve with Blake Bortles having a year of experience

1433
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: under his belt, with the presence of Allen Robinson, who

1434
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: will be healthy and a good sleeper. With t j

1435
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: Yelden back, the offensive line still has question marks, but

1436
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: red zone opportunities are going to be few and far

1437
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: between compared to what he saw in Denver. That's why

1438
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: he's still a tight end one. But he's not going

1439
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: to produce huge numbers. Can I see him catching sixty

1440
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: five passes like he did uh in Denver last year?

1441
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: Shut seven yards somewhere in that area shirt twelve touchdowns? No,

1442
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean six? I think is his ceiling in Jacksonville

1443
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: is to the know? Wow, this is a family podcast, fabs.

1444
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: Let's watch, Let's watch the language. I know. I'm sorry

1445
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, so, yeah, I think we're kind

1446
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: of all agreed on that. I'm looking at some other

1447
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: tight end zach Ertz, that's the guy you gotta watch

1448
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: out for, Marcus zach Ertz. Well, we've been we've been

1449
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: pumping harmon on this podcast. Why don't we throw the

1450
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: bone to the franchise who wrote a great low cost

1451
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: tight ends piece you can read on NFL dot com

1452
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 1: slash fantasy, and some of those names were Vernon Davis,

1453
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: and I like Davis. I like Vernon Davis to bounce back.

1454
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: I think my favorite of those is actually Tyler Eiffert,

1455
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: though now I like Davis. As we said, Andy Dalton's

1456
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: the drunk guy piloting the bar cycle. He's supposed to be.

1457
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the sober one. But I like

1458
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: effort he you know, I think the drafted in the

1459
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: first or second round. He got dogged by that injury.

1460
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: He lost his entire season, but he's athletic. He's gonna

1461
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: Dalton's gonna need another safety valve like that, and I

1462
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: think he could put up big numbers in that offense. Uh.

1463
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: We also asked the question earlier whether or not this

1464
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: is the year for C. J. Spiller? Is this the

1465
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: year for Ladarius Green? Silence? Is Gates suspended all year? Uh?

1466
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: Just four? Right? So yeah, I just you know again,

1467
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: it's about the trends, and the trend has been the

1468
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: guy is amazing. He's athletic, he's fast, He ran a

1469
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: better forty than Antonio Brown. I mean, he's an amazing athlete.

1470
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: And sometimes that transcends and and translates into being a

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 1: great player, and sometimes it doesn't. But the four games

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: that we will see him featured in the offense is

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: going to tell a whole heck of a lot of

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01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: what his value is going to be the rest of

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: the year. But regardless, at best in the best case scenario,

1476
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: he's sharing targets with Gates when he comes back. It's

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: not a featured role. It's not like we're talking about

1478
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, who you know is gonna see targets in Dallas,

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: even though Gavin Escobar might see a few. It's not like, y, yeah,

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: I saw our our friend Molly Carrom on ESPN. I

1481
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: shed it tire because you know, she's, uh, she's our

1482
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: pal and good luck to her now with ESPN. But

1483
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a guy who after the Chargers

1484
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 1: fourth game is guaranteed to see those targets. In fact,

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: I would think he's guaranteed to lose them when Skates

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: comes back. Yeah, I know you're right. I mean you

1487
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: you You still have Malcolm Floyd, you have Keenan Allen,

1488
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: who I think bounces back this year as well. So

1489
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: there are a lot more targets, are a lot more

1490
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: guys to take some of those targets, So you don't

1491
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: somebody want to throw it not to sleep on. I

1492
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: think I have the highest though. Is Michael Rivera, the

1493
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: tight end in Oakland who David Carstered building a report with.

1494
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: You're making a face, right, because no, it's not and

1495
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 1: it's not about you, and it's not even about Michael Rivera.

1496
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: This is about my own. This is like I'm kind

1497
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: of dealing with my own stuff right now. Is that

1498
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: I've like the last two years, I've jumped on board

1499
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: with Raiders tight end and I've been burned. I mean,

1500
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: I was driving the Brandon mind, but I was all

1501
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: about Brandon Myers and that didn't quite work out. Even

1502
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: last year, I was trying to get on board with

1503
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: Michael Rivera. I even thought about watching Glee. I didn't,

1504
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: but I thought about it. Um, I just he might

1505
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: he might be he might be right, he might I

1506
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: don't remember my sad story with Frank Gore or I

1507
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: let him stop drafting him. I just I've been I've

1508
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: been hurt too many times. I can't. I just don't

1509
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: want to be here. Rien Dudley, didn't you know I

1510
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: did not have Ricky. I didn't buy into that one.

1511
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: I've just been hurt by raiders side ends too much

1512
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: in the last couple of year. If you're gonna scoop

1513
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: up somebody late, or maybe you want to draft like

1514
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: a young guy and an Antonio gates to bank on

1515
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: his production when he comes back, Michael Rivera could be

1516
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: that guy. There was a stretch last year. I forget

1517
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: the weeks. I apologize. I should have been more prepared

1518
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: for this podcast. However, there was a stretch of like

1519
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: four or five weeks where Michael Rivera was in like

1520
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: the top two or three Fantasy tight ends and like

1521
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: PPR and targets and stuff like that, so he could

1522
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: have some sneaky, sneaky sleeper value. I know, like I

1523
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: feel like this is like every year Marcus because like

1524
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: all those years, like in high school, in college, when

1525
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: I picked Kansas to win the n C two A tournament,

1526
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: they always lose in the first round. Like I just

1527
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: probably dretch where he went seven eighty three, eight thirty

1528
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: eight and two, six sixty four and one pretty good.

1529
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: Then he went for seven nine and one. And then

1530
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: in week fifteen, how do you catch seven passes and

1531
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: finished with thirty nine yard and not have Alex Smith

1532
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: is your quarterback? That that that's hard to do seven

1533
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: for thirty nine. See. But the thing is that the

1534
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: thing is that when he was bad, he gave you

1535
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: zip so well, so did a lot of the tight ends.

1536
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: But that's what's gonna happen this year. You're unless you

1537
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: have one of the five top tight ends, maybe zach

1538
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: ertz Uh moves into that top six there, you're gonna

1539
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: be playing the matchups a lot of time with these

1540
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: tight ends. That's why you wait to draft them. Man. Really,

1541
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: I just know it's gonna happen to be like round

1542
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: twelve one of you're gonna draft him real quick. Since

1543
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: you mentioned Alex Smith again, I was digging this up

1544
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: through the podcast. He has never had a thousand yard

1545
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: receiver has thrown to It's kind of when you have

1546
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: to do all the work. Only only one year was

1547
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: there a thousand wide receiver while he was a quarterback,

1548
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: and that was the year he only played half the year,

1549
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: and it was Michael Crabtree. So another reason to hate.

1550
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: And Jerry Macklin. Sorry Macklin, you're a great player, but

1551
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna work out. Yeah, it's not me.

1552
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: Uh So that will pretty much do it for us.

1553
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 1: Want to give a shout out to James co. Hopefully

1554
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: you are recuperating well and you're back here in this chair.

1555
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: It's a little bit harder than it looks, James, so

1556
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: we will see you again. You find us online NFL

1557
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: dot com, Slash Fantasy, hit up the Draft Kit, Draft

1558
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: Live Now, Brown's Gallaher, Michael Papiano, Marcus Grant. We'll see

1559
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Speaker 1: if