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Speaker 1: I have tried to stay optimistic. Young player on a

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Speaker 1: playing in meaningless games, guys on terrible teams. But bo

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Speaker 1: Nix the majority of the season has been atrocious, and

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Speaker 1: tonight it was like, oh, same thing, start and slow,

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Speaker 1: The Broncos, for me, now officially have a in twenty

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Speaker 1: is elite. Like it doesn't get any better. My neighbor

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Speaker 1: It's incredible and that's like the Denver Broncos. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is bo Nicks would be the engine and if

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Speaker 1: NFL stars, But if you look at UCLA's last several years,

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Speaker 1: they were a defensive team when they were good. This

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Speaker 1: year has been an abomination with the Raiders. Just I

428
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Speaker 1: just don't think he's good anymore. He's living off a

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Speaker 1: reputation from a decade ago, and I think Pete still

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Speaker 1: his message and everything kind of works, but they just

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Speaker 1: don't have the talent. And I think they thought they

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Speaker 1: were better than they were, and I think Max is

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Speaker 1: their quickest path towards just kind of resetting this thing,

434
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Speaker 1: because I think they tried to plug some holes and

435
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Speaker 1: thought they could be more competitive. Hell I thought that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they were a playoff team, but I

437
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: could have been, like I could see seven and ten

438
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: or something eight to nine and just a frisky team.

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00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: They're really bad. They are not good, and they just

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00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: acknowledge it by you know, trading Jacoby, their best wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: But I just think they got they got to pull

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Speaker 1: the plug. They just do not have enough talent, and

443
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: I think big picture, you know, when spy Tech and

444
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: Brady sit down, you know it's tough. Like you hired

445
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll to try to which I thought made sense,

446
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: just to get the train going in the right direction

447
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: and just get some positive momentum for a couple of years.

448
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Speaker 1: I think you start asking yourself, like give him a

449
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: couple of years. But it was almost like you know,

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Speaker 1: putting a band aid on a bullet hole. And maybe

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00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't the right guy for the job because they

452
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Speaker 1: just weren't good enough, and especially if some of the

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Speaker 1: type guys that like if you're trading Max Crosby, like,

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Speaker 1: why's Pete gonna want to be there? And I think

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Speaker 1: people say, I want to be here because I love

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Speaker 1: coaching football. And I saw him when he got interviewed

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Speaker 1: leave it at halftime. I admire his burning passion for

458
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Speaker 1: the sport of football. He does not need to be

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Speaker 1: doing this. He has made an astronomical amount of money.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think people thought he was making like

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars like the last six or seven years,

462
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Speaker 1: Like he's made a ton and he was making millions

463
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: at usc AT two decades ago, like he's doing this

464
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Speaker 1: because football football is his addiction and he's passionate about

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Speaker 1: it and he likes it. But I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you could like get excited going to practice with this

467
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: group that has no chance. It's not all your fault.

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, you inherit a team with not that much talent.

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Speaker 1: You've had some injuries, and I do think one thing

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Speaker 1: they probably regret, and I don't know if it would

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Speaker 1: have made a huge difference, but I think if they

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Speaker 1: could do it over again, they would not have traded

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Speaker 1: for Geno and just been in the mix for Sam Donald. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously the Seattle Seahawks have a much better roster and

475
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Speaker 1: are more equipped to win with Sam Donald. But I

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Speaker 1: just think Gino, I mean, it's not played that well

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Speaker 1: at all, and now he's limping around. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna just not be very good. So my move this

479
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: offseason would be to pull the plug, throw some dynamite

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Speaker 1: on it, and let it rip. A couple other things

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into. I saw some people on

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Speaker 1: the interweb talking about people I guess are mad like GMS.

483
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of people like forty nine er

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00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: fans are mad at John Lynch, It's like, guys, their

485
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Speaker 1: entire team is hurt. You think they're gonna trade a

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Speaker 1: first round pick for Trey Hendrickson? Are you on crack cocaine?

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Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? How is this? Is

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Speaker 1: this a real conversation or this internet only? Because if

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Speaker 1: this is a real conversation, maybe I'm out of the loop.

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Speaker 1: On like the way fans think? Do people really think this?

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Speaker 1: You sing the team they're rolling out, they're gonna trade

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Speaker 1: a first round pick? Well, theach, I guess, was getting

493
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Speaker 1: some similar heat on the interweb about not trading you know,

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Speaker 1: is reported today that he didn't trade a They were

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Speaker 1: talking to the Jets about Breisee Hall, and the Jets

496
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Speaker 1: were adamant, we want a third round pick and the

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Speaker 1: highest Beach would go as the fourth rounder, and he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't budge, And so Chiefs fans like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Why aren't we living in the now? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: is this serious? Have you guys watched any ree coach?

501
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna give brist Hall? Who won to me? Talented guy?

502
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Little overrated the hype given what he's brought to the NFL. Again,

503
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Speaker 1: a little hard to judge because of the Jets. But like,

504
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Speaker 1: this isn't trading for Christian McCaffrey or b John Robinson here,

505
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Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe he will end up that way

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Speaker 1: next year when he's on a better team. But what

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Speaker 1: he's a free agent. She traded a fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: on a team that's very expensive that's gonna need picks

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Speaker 1: that I'd even argue that's like kind of bold for

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Speaker 1: a team that historically isn't exactly handing the ball off

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Speaker 1: to one individual fifteen to twenty times a game, not

512
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Speaker 1: really how he calls plays. But to me, most importantly,

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Speaker 1: why you can't give up a third round pick one?

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is gonna need a quote unquote restructure of

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Speaker 1: his contract. I promise you that one's coming. Chris Jones

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Speaker 1: makes a ton of money. Carloff just just got a

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Speaker 1: big contract. Trent McDuffie's gonna need a contract obviously, Travis

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Speaker 1: even if he retires, I bet if we look some

519
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: of that signing bonus got pro rated is gonna hit

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Speaker 1: the cap. They are going to need to be careful

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Speaker 1: about their top picks because over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: like why don't the Chiefs just get aggressive and trade

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Speaker 1: a first rounder for so and so. Well, who did

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Speaker 1: they use a first rounder on this last year? They're

525
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Speaker 1: starting left tackle. So when you have a high priced team,

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Speaker 1: the first two days of draft picks are really valuable.

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Speaker 1: So if you are going to use those, it would

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Speaker 1: be on someone that wouldn't be a rental. It would

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Speaker 1: be a guy you want to resign. Like Howie Roseman

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Speaker 1: goes in uh trades for Jalen Phillips a third round pick. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're basically giving this Jalen Phillips a two if they

532
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Speaker 1: go along in the playoffs, a three month trial run

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Speaker 1: to give you a contract extension. But even if they

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Speaker 1: let Jalen Phillips walk, let's just say it blows up

535
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Speaker 1: in their face and he's not good, It doesn't work out,

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Speaker 1: and it's underwhelming. Do you know what Howie Roseman has

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Speaker 1: in his back pocket this offseason? He can trade AJ Brown?

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Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, yeah, he lost a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: What do you think he'd get for AJ Brown this offseason?

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Speaker 1: At minimum a second and a third because he makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of money and you know, who knows, maybe

542
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Speaker 1: he can dictate where he wants to go. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you know at his length time in the

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Speaker 1: NFL if they get a one, but he would get

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Speaker 1: I would say minimum a second potentially if you told

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Speaker 1: me a second and a fourth probably, so he has

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Speaker 1: that in his back pocket, and I would say, stop

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Speaker 1: talking about trade d A. J. Brown. I watched how

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00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: he's press conference two days ago after the trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: and when he was asked about it, he didn't just

551
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Speaker 1: come out and say like, yeah, we're never thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: We would never do that. He kind of gave it,

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Speaker 1: We're just we're gonna keeping our good players. But it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like if you would ask him, hey, why didn't

555
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: he trade Jalen Carter or why did he trade Jalen Hurts,

556
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Speaker 1: he would have gone he would have lost it. He like,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys idiots? That's not the way he

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Speaker 1: took it. Problems she does. A. J. Brown's getting traded

559
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Speaker 1: this offseason. That's gonna happen, and that's how they're gonna

560
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Speaker 1: recoup picks. Well, who are the Chiefs trading? They need

561
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Speaker 1: that third round pick. So if you want to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: why weren't the Chiefs involved in trading for some defensive guys? Okay,

563
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Speaker 1: I can hear that, but drawing a hard line on

564
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Speaker 1: a price point for a running back that's a free

565
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: agent that I don't know hasn't exactly taken the league

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Speaker 1: by storm. I don't have a big deal with Let's

567
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: talk about Daniel Jones, because I actually think his agents

568
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: are about to get in the zone. If you remember,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, Daniel Jones was coming off a

570
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Speaker 1: career year where I think he accounted for like twenty touchdowns,

571
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: not exactly like he threw forty five. The Giants went

572
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Speaker 1: nine to eight, They beat Kirk Cousins in the Minnesota Vikings,

573
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Speaker 1: and it was like, we're in love with Daniel Jones again.

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Speaker 1: How about like a two years fifty million. His agents

575
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Speaker 1: laughed in their face and they proceeded to dominate the

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Speaker 1: Giants in negotiation. Joe shan't even said, He's like, this

577
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: negotiation was crazy, and they got eighty million dollars the

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Speaker 1: moment he signed that contract. A year and a half later,

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Speaker 1: he was released in the middle of the season. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't argue that he has been a big part

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Speaker 1: of resurrecting the Colts, right, they had a quarterback situation

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: that was a debacle. He immediately comes in and now

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Speaker 1: they're probably headed toward what twelve and five like, They're

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Speaker 1: not only headed for a good record, they're going to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and for the first time in Chris Ballard's tenure,

586
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: they're more than likely going to win the division. I

587
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: think his agents have to be licking their chops after

588
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: this week because that Sauce Gardner trade basically said out

589
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: a signal we are ready to win now this year,

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00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: next year, our time is now. Well, when do you

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Speaker 1: think that when you have a quarterback? Why did Jerry

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00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Jones trade for Quinn Williams. Why I see pumping people

593
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: calling he's got Dak Prescott, He's paying him sixty million dollars.

594
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: He's like, you get Quinn william We've got two ones.

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00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Next year, we'll add to our defense and we'll make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's what he's thinking. If he would have

597
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: traded for Quinn Williams with no quarterback, it would have

598
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: been the craziest trade in the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: But I said, like, I don't even think it's that nuts.

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Speaker 1: We could argue the price, but like he plans on

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: filling up that defense next year and winning ten plus

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00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: games next year with Dak Prescott. Whether it comes true

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00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: or not, but like he could make that argument it's

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Speaker 1: possible because he has a quarterback. Well, when you trade

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Speaker 1: for Sas Gardner for two first round picks, what teams

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Speaker 1: trade two first round picks? Teams that think they can win,

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00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: Teams that believe in their quarterback. And I think Daniel

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Jones now is looking at if he got eighty million

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Speaker 1: dollars at signing three years ago, depending on how I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he has some good games and they win a

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00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: playoff game, are we talking one hundred and fifty million dollars?

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Speaker 1: And this is where I think the Colts are gonna

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Speaker 1: sign one of the more controversial quarterback contracts in recent memory,

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Speaker 1: because his agents have already proved they don't take discounts.

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Speaker 1: His price point was basically Cousins three years ago. You know,

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Speaker 1: Cousins just made ninety million dollars in two years. That's

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Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones did, right, So you factor in inflation,

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Speaker 1: you factor in these new deals. I can imagine Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard will send his agent Sam Darnold's contract three years,

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00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars fifty five million, and they'll laugh,

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Speaker 1: They'll like wipe their ass with the facts or paper.

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00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: I guess no one facts anymore. But well, they used

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Speaker 1: to win the NFL contracts, and I just think that

624
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: the Colts now have backed themselves up into a corner

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00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: that this is their guy. No one franchises a quarterback

626
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: or very rarely because the price. I haven't even looked

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00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: at the number, but my guess is I don't know

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00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: minimum low forties, and all that money goes on your cap,

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Speaker 1: so you try to avoid that at all costs, and

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Speaker 1: you want to sign him to extension, and the extension

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Speaker 1: is going to be really expensive. So the Colts and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Owns, I would say, haven't officially gotten married yet.

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00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: That will come when the big contract is signed in February.

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00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: But they got engaged the moment that Sauce Gardner trade

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Speaker 1: went down. Okay, Fugazi Friday, I gotta give myself a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a round of applause. I made it

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Speaker 1: through sixty minutes of hot yoga. Now, I took a

638
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Speaker 1: different tactic. Last time I went. I went at six

639
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Speaker 1: in the morning, so I definitely didn't hydrate enough. I

640
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: didn't quite know what I was getting into, and I

641
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: quit after forty minutes today. They had a class at

642
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Speaker 1: eight thirty, and my days on Thursday because the games

643
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: at night and I don't record Bill Stucky till eleven o'clock,

644
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I got a little more time in the morning. So

645
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Speaker 1: instead of going to the six am class, I went

646
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: at eight thirty. You know, I got up like six thirty.

647
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: I slammed a big Stanley, I felt hydrated, felt healthy,

648
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: and I went in there and this class was packed today.

649
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: But the thing that because again it crossed my mind,

650
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: it probably about I made a mistake. I went to

651
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Speaker 1: the center of the class that's where the heater is,

652
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: and the heat was just coming right at me. I

653
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, this is because it crossed

654
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: my mind again, but there was probably triple the amount

655
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Speaker 1: of people. But what motivated me the whole time was

656
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: right next to me was like this sixty five year

657
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: old like laired Hamilton. This guy was just jacked, gray

658
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: hair and he was dominating. I'm like, there is no

659
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Speaker 1: way I'm like one. When I'm this guy's age, my

660
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: kid will be like twenty. I'm like, this guy's in

661
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: ten times better shape than me, and he's got me

662
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: by multiple decades. I cannot be a puss and leave

663
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Speaker 1: and I just kept looking at it him like I

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Speaker 1: can't go, and then finally you just looked up, and

665
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: I tried not to. Every time you look at the clock,

666
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: you're like, God, this clock feels like it's going backwards.

667
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: But it finally got there, and even the yoga yoga

668
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: teacher said, great job. I'm like, yeah, thank you, but god, damn,

669
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Speaker 1: that's really really hard. But I did want to end

670
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: on this fugazi is there have been a lot of

671
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: reports kind of sweat and it's hot in here is

672
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: the golfing with the college coaches, Hugh Freeze Brian Kelly

673
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: that they were like addicted to golf. And one thing

674
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: with Hugh Freeze is a report came out that in college, right,

675
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: you play on Saturday, so unlike the NFL, their work

676
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: week starts like a normal human's work week on Monday.

677
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: College football coaches and just college football operations, Sunday is

678
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: a big work day, right, because you have six days

679
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: till your next opponent. You try to grade that game.

680
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: Some teams practice or at minimum do some sort of

681
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: workout to get the lactic acid. You meet as a team,

682
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: you go over the film and then I would say

683
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: the majority of teams probably let the players go and

684
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: then they start diving into the game plan on the

685
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: next opponent. But it's a very long day, right, especially

686
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: if you have traveled, if you're on the road playing

687
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: Florida or something, you get back late, Like you're in

688
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the office relatively early in the morning and you're there

689
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: till very very late. And reports came out that Hugh

690
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: Freeze these SEC golf programs are like they travel on

691
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: private jets when they play in tournaments. If you're into that,

692
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: probably a lot of people watching this or not. If

693
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: you go to YouTube and you just go to Alabama Golf,

694
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: Auburn Golf, Georgia Golf, Vanderbilt Golf. Their facilities are at

695
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: country clubs that are really nice. Yet their facility. When

696
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I got married in Nashville, we played the Vanderbilt course

697
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Speaker 1: because my brother is a member at a club in

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Speaker 1: the Sacramento area and it's owned by the same management company,

699
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: so you can get a tea time there. So we

700
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: went and played it, and Vanderbilt it's their home course.

701
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: Their clubhouse is just for the players on a golf team.

702
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: There's less than twelve guys. Is bigger than the actual

703
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: clubhouse at the country club that has two eighteen holes.

704
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: When we were leaving Peyton, Manning was in the Vanderbilt area,

705
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I think with his young son Marshall just chipping and putting.

706
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: It's incredible. All these people in the SEC have setups

707
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: like it's the fucking PGA Tour. It doesn't get any better.

708
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: So Auburn's home course, who I actually think. I have

709
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: a good buddy that went to watch a Cal Auburn

710
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: game years ago and they played it and said, is

711
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: really nice. So all these teams have you know, the

712
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: nice country club is ran by the golf team. Well,

713
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: if Sean McVeigh or let's use Kenny Dillingham in Arizona,

714
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: if he wanted to sneak out of the office early

715
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, We're like, I'm just kind of over it.

716
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Need a break. I'm gonna go play some golf. There

717
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: are seven million golf courses here. He could play anywhere,

718
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: and honestly, he get away with no one noticing him.

719
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: When you're Brian Kelly and you're playing Baton Rouge country Club,

720
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: or you're Hugh Freeze and you're playing Auburn's country Club

721
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: it's the only nice golf course in town. And where

722
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Speaker 1: do you think the rich people that are funding your program,

723
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: that live in the general facility hangout? And a country

724
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: club is like a high school. Everyone knows each other

725
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: and everyone talks. Well, who's the most famous guy besides

726
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: like the billionaire rich guy funding the football program in

727
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: the town, it's the football coach. So if it is

728
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: true that Hugh Freeze was going and playing golf on

729
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: a weekly basis or oftentimes after losses at one thirty

730
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: in the afternoon on Sunday, that's insane. And I started thinking,

731
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: like Brian Kelly, Hugh Freeze, I do wonder if you

732
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: get to the point, especially these older guys like I

733
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: get lane he's still trying to prove himself. He wants

734
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: to win a national championship. And like he's he's kind

735
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: of you know, been drugged through the mud throughout his career,

736
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: so he's still like trying to prove it. But a

737
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: guy like Brian Kelly, now, granted he's still trying to

738
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: win a national championship, but he's been making so much

739
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: money for so long. I don't care who you are

740
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: unless you're wired like Nick Saban's a one of one.

741
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: He is not normal. And even him you saw once

742
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: he retired that video that went viral and miss Terry

743
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: bringing him the cake, dudes on the lazy boy with

744
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: with the with the with the blanket over him like

745
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: he's r buss Saban, leave me alone. I want to

746
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: watch this game. I could appreciate that. I want to

747
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: watch this game by myself in a room. Don't leave me.

748
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: I want to watch the Chiefs and the Bills. Do

749
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: not talk to me. He ain't coming back. I saw

750
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 1: the new Lsuad said, who's good friends with him, said,

751
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: we talked to Nick. He's not coming back, not that

752
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: we talked to him about the job, because he laughed

753
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: at he just was never coming back. My point is

754
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: that these guys were playing golf thinking that like, that's

755
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: not going to get back, and I kind of got

756
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: to the point where maybe they didn't care. And I

757
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: do wonder if some of these older coaches that are

758
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: taking these astronomical amounts of money, do they still have

759
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: the same fire, Do they even give a shit? Because

760
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: any human being that was trying to prove anything would

761
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: never put themselves in a position where you're playing golf

762
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: during the season after losses on a Sunday afternoon. That

763
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: is fucking insanity. But that's what these guys were doing.

764
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: And I really think it gets back to when you

765
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: start handing out this type money, if they if something's

766
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: a little off, if they don't quite have the same fire,

767
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: what do they care because what do they have to

768
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: prove to that, Like, you have to pay me to leave,

769
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: so you want to fire me, fire me, send me

770
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: those checks because I got a lot come And even

771
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze like, send me that eighteen million dollars. Brian

772
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: Kelly's like send me that fifty million. I don't care.

773
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I want. I'm actually untouchable. And it's

774
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: human nature, right. I think most people look the whole

775
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: point of like striving. Obviously you want to win championship,

776
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: but these guys want to make money like that's and

777
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys early in the career,

778
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: you didn't make that much. So I'm Matt Ruhle telling

779
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: a story. They're playing UCLA. He's like, when I coached

780
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: at UCLA in two thousand and one, I was making

781
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: no money. So you're just kind of driven to be

782
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: a headman and also comes with the head man with

783
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: a lot of cash. Well, once you've been doing it

784
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: for so long, like Brian Kelly, I do wonder if

785
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: you just lose your fastball to care and I think

786
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: we look at Nick Sabe and even Urban Meyer would

787
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: have to tap. I I just can't keep up this

788
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: competitive stamina. And you have to wonder how many guys

789
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: in college football are probably not working as hard, you know,

790
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: if they're If they were making a million dollars, maybe

791
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: they'd work a little harder, but they're making ten. I

792
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: don't I have no problem with how much money anyone's making.

793
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: But if you pay enough people ten million dollars, you're

794
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna get some people tapping out early on a Sunday afternoon,

795
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: headed to the golf course. Okay, really quick, before we

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Speaker 1: We're kind of like getting over the halfway mark, headed down,

820
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: not quite. The home stretches probably be the dog days

821
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Speaker 1: network this you know, looking at the board, Stucky not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. It's starting to get a little hard some teams.

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Speaker 1: Who's checking in, who's checking out? I think it's a

829
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,560
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830
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831
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,600
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00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: do we get but like Aaron glenns still trying to

833
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: prove himself. You know, the Cardinals situation, there's just a

834
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Speaker 1: lot the forty nine ers are a mass unit. We

835
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,399
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00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries. I don't even know where

837
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: to start, but how's your overall vibe check of the

838
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Speaker 1: season going into November.

839
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: It's been good, NFL's been good so far. Yeah, It's

840
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: just it's it's insane. This happens every year. My vibe

841
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Speaker 2: check is I'm my brain is fried, like I have

842
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: trying to keep up with all that in the NFL,

843
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: in college football, like everything that you alluded to all

844
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: of the injuries and now and then I also bet

845
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: college basketball is trying to keep up.

846
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: With didn't that just start a couple of days ago.

847
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, with all the college basketball new teams, it's insane.

848
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: I wish I could go back to like ten year

849
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: years ago. I didn't realize how good I had it

850
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: when like all these teams didn't completely turn over their

851
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: rosters every year. It was so much easier to prepare

852
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: for and stay on top of. But it's a labor

853
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: of love. I love being in like the grind of it.

854
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: You know. I kind of have like a teacher's schedule,

855
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: so like I once it hits like April May, and

856
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, the first couple months of the summer, it's

857
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: very nice. I travel, relax, read, But for eight months

858
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: out of the year, I'm just in in the hive.

859
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 2: But I absolutely love it. But I if I didn't

860
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: have those couple of months to completely check out, I

861
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: would be in an insane asylum within two years. With

862
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: all of the all of the changes in college sports

863
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: of late, which makes it so much tougher. But I

864
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: love it. I love trying to figure it out. And

865
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: the best thing about sports better that I love the most.

866
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 2: Like I used like I came from a finance background

867
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: and bet and sports all my life for twenty plus years.

868
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 2: Like finance, you'll never it's in the same vein. You'll

869
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: never fully master it, right, Like even if you're talking

870
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 2: about the stock market sports better, you will never ever

871
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: fully master it. You just try to get incrementally better.

872
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: You have to. Also, I love dealing with like the

873
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: highs and lows. But a lot of people hate that,

874
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: but I actually like doing that. You know, Oh you're cold,

875
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: you got to find a way out of it. Oh

876
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: you're a hot? How can I maintain it? Like it's

877
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: I love all of that, but yeah, it's a craft

878
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: that you just cannot master. The market's always getting tougher,

879
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: it's always going to get more efficient, and you have

880
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: to try to work your way through. And every season

881
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: is different, every week is different. So I love it,

882
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: but it's definitely a grind and a mental.

883
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: Challenge, you know. I've anyone that I think that likes

884
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: to gamble at a young age kind of gets naturally

885
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: into the stock market, right It's just a kind of

886
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: an easy transition. And obviously I bet I guess you

887
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: can consider it on the stock market, but I put

888
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot more money in the stock market. But you

889
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: can just let it sit there. And like you said,

890
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: like if I've played a huge bet, let's say, on Uber,

891
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: it would take something pretty catastrophic to just knock it off.

892
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: Where you can have a great team like the Packers

893
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden one week someone DM

894
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: me the other day they're like, why do you think

895
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: the reaction on a weekly basis in football is so

896
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: much different than these other sports. It's just like it's

897
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: just a numbers game. There's just less games. So if

898
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: you're bad, you know, you wait all week and you

899
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: kind of know what's coming, but then it comes and

900
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: you're just like and people are just mad. But when

901
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: you're good, and I use the Packers as an example,

902
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: you can stomach losing a tight game to the Lions

903
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: and everyone gets their opinions why you lose it, or

904
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles, But when everyone goes into that game as

905
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: a Packer fan against the Panthers and definitely against the Browns,

906
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: like we're winning. So when you lose, it'd be like

907
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. If Uber was just down twenty

908
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: five percent today, I'd be like, what is going on.

909
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: So when the Packers lose to the Panthers in Lambeau,

910
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: every single Packer fan and their fan base is enormous.

911
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Is just it's just at a loss. I mean, it's

912
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of stunning. And that's I think the power

913
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: of football more than like the Warriors lost last night

914
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: to the Kinks. It does not matter, you know, one

915
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: they sat there, guys, but like the individual game just

916
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: does not matter. Ye, you know in the grand scheme

917
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: of things. Now, it may if it's the difference of

918
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: a game when they you know, they're six seed instead

919
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: of the four seed obviously, but like the Indian you're

920
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: kind yeah, you're kind of faking it. Where the Packer game,

921
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 1: that Carolina loss is just enormous in the grand scheme

922
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: of things, right, It's just so people's reaction on Sunday

923
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: night or on Monday in football, I don't think you

924
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: can really overreact, and maybe you can week one, but

925
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: like where we're at now, some of these losses to

926
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: good teams have like there's a lot on the line

927
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: for Green Bay and Philadelphia on Monday night, right, That's

928
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: say same thing with Minnesota baltim Like there's just a lot,

929
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: there's these games matter a lot.

930
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, I'm not as panicked about the Packers.

931
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean you have to you also have to remember,

932
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: like it is in football, you're just gonna have weird results.

933
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Like we could go back to late in the year

934
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: when two years ago when the Chiefs before they win

935
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, the Chiefs lost to the Raiders on Christmas.

936
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: Remember that game. Last year, the Ravens lost to.

937
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: The Raids, but they had been playing bad that year,

938
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: right then they go eleven and six, they ended up

939
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: making the Super Bowl. Yeah, they years ago. Yeah, they

940
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: were not playing that well. Mahomes went through a rough stretch.

941
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but the Ravens last year.

942
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. But it just.

943
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 2: Happens, like the Packers didn't punt in the game.

944
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh, Cobble didn't complete a pass for three quarters in

945
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: that game. Like it's the Chiefs never lose a game

946
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: if your quarterback doesn't complete a pass for three quarters.

947
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like the Packer it was just kind of

948
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: a flukey game in whether Crafts got hurt. He was

949
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a big part of their game plan and

950
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: they but they didn't punt the entire game. It was

951
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: just like weird turnover I mean red zone stuff and

952
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: missed field goals that they got to figure out their

953
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: special teams. I still think that they're the At the

954
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: end of the day, I think the Packers are the

955
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 2: best team. They're the most well rounded team in the NFC.

956
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: They they do tend to get a little too conservative

957
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: when they play when they play down, because like the

958
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: Packers when they when they play up, they will be

959
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 2: super aggressive. You know, they'll hit a ton of explosive plays.

960
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: They'll throw it down field a time. Yeah, they kind

961
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: of clam up a bit when they play these inferior teams,

962
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: which I think can be a bit problematic. But I

963
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: actually like them this week against Philly, I mean just

964
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: that home under a field goal. I don't think I

965
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: think they win that game. That spread might have been

966
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: a field goal.

967
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's just start with that game. All lines

968
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: are presented by hard Rock Bet. Uh. That game will

969
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: just jump right to Monday night. It's enormous. The underrated

970
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: part about this franchise right now is Carmen Policy's son

971
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Ed Policy got the job this offseason to be their president,

972
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: which when that organization is a really big deal because

973
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: they don't have an owner. He has a lot of

974
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: juice and he said, we're not extending these guys. Now.

975
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: I think Gudakins after the Parsons deal and clearly their

976
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: roster probably safe. Right. He's and they have they're typically

977
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: they've had three GMS in what thirty years? Ron Wolf,

978
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson. Now this guy he's and he was trained

979
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: by Ted Thompson. I don't think Gudikins is going anywhere.

980
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: I would out fire Gutikins. I think Gudakins is pretty good.

981
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: But Lafleur, like when you say, you know clam up,

982
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: I think people it's not like the teams, it's him.

983
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: It starts with the head coach, who's the play caller.

984
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: And he's had some big moments when he had Rogers,

985
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: they were in the NFC Championship game multiple times. He's

986
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: clearly solid. But I think this year, once you trade

987
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: for Parsons, a ton of pressure in a weird way.

988
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: The Eagles, who are always this polarizing organization, and because

989
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: of the way Howie and the pressure is just always

990
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: pressure in every game they play, it feels like they

991
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: get to fly a little under the this game Lambeau.

992
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: Just losing this Carolina game, It's like all eyes are

993
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: on the floor, and like after d Policy said that,

994
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: can they if they don't win the division? If they

995
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: got bounced again in the first round, I don't think

996
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: he'd be a lock to just keep his job. Now.

997
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: You could also say who are they replacing him with?

998
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: Like they're not just We talked about this yesterday when

999
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: we were just meeting as a staff, like could they

1000
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: go to half Lee? It's like, you're not gonna fire

1001
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: the floor for Halflee? That seems pretty crazy, But like

1002
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: I do think there's just some growing. You feel the

1003
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: tightness in the floor last week. Well it's funny when

1004
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: he's like I don't give a shit about Halloween. You

1005
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: can't say that and then lose the Panthers, you know.

1006
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know he and I'll never forget.

1007
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: I was at the Titans practice his one year as

1008
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. He's kind of tightly wound, you know,

1009
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: he's he's he's much more like Kyle than he is

1010
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: loose like Sean or Kevin. So, but he's not like

1011
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: he not as good as Kyle. I don't think so.

1012
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be the tightly wound offensive guy. He's

1013
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: got a little Gruden to him too, like he's pretty conservative,

1014
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: he's pretty tight, but he's young. He's this good lookie guy,

1015
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: so you don't think that when you look at him,

1016
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: but when you watch his team play. But like you said,

1017
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me at all if he beats the

1018
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: Eagles by like eight points, you know, and just kind

1019
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: of they're in control of the game. I just think

1020
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: he's a fascinating case study because we're talking about all

1021
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: these shitty jobs and these guys getting fired. Jonathan Gannon

1022
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: probably fighting for his job going with Jacobe. I do

1023
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: think Laflor feels this pressure of wanting to get like

1024
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: a five year contract extension. Now it's not college football,

1025
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: they easily could bring him back on a quote unquote

1026
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: lame duck. Right, you're not recruiting. He could coach next year.

1027
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to fire him this year. But I

1028
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: do think there's like the elephant in the room. Is

1029
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: laflora factor for this team?

1030
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, He's definitely an interesting case. I'm a be

1031
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: I like him. I think he's I think it would

1032
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: be coo.

1033
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm not anti Lafloor at all.

1034
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: I think it would be crazy to move on from him.

1035
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: I also like Hathlee the hire there. I'm just not

1036
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: fully sold on the Eagles yet. Like you know, you

1037
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: go back to that Vite. The offense people will say

1038
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: has look better the past two games. That Vikings game,

1039
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: they just hit a couple of bombs on misstime, blitz

1040
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: and coverages. Other than that, they really didn't do much.

1041
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: They've still have been running the ball well. And yeah,

1042
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: they tore apart the Giants. The Giants are the worst

1043
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: run defense in the NFL and we're playing with all

1044
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: backup secondary, all backup defensive backs. Like their defenses was

1045
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: a mess for that game. So I'm still not sold

1046
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: that under this new offensive coordinator that their offense is

1047
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: fixed like they're they are top three or bottom three,

1048
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: depending on you look at it in the league in

1049
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: three and outright, they've just been historically good in the

1050
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: red zone on fourth downs. The Green Bay offense is

1051
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 2: still much more efficient. I mean, Jordan Love is still

1052
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: top two in the league, and epavor play versus man

1053
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: en verse zone hurts still in this offense still have

1054
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: struggles when they're under pressure. En Verse zone. They're going

1055
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: to see a lot of both against the Packers and

1056
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: this Eagles def it's definitely not the same caliber as

1057
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: last year. So I think the Packers are the better team.

1058
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: I know the Eagles are coming off of a bye,

1059
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: but you get them at home, I think they're more

1060
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: well rounded. I think you'll get their best effort here,

1061
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: so under a field goal, I like the mayor. But

1062
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: you're right, it's a huge game. It's a huge especially

1063
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: because it's it's it's bigger for the Packers because the Eagles.

1064
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 2: I mean, it could end up determining the one seed.

1065
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: Division is over, so the Packers like, yeah, so this

1066
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: game could end up like determining the one seed, which

1067
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: is big for both. But if the Packers lose all

1068
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like you're in You're now much more

1069
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: in that mesh of are you even going to win

1070
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: your division? And if you don't do that, you know

1071
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: you're on the road in your first playoff game in

1072
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: the NFC is deep this year, so I think it's

1073
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: definitely much more important for the Packers. But the Eagles

1074
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 2: could definitely position themselves well for the one seed because

1075
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: the other players for that are mainly coming. You know,

1076
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: you look at them. I don't think the forty nine

1077
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: ers there with the Seahawks, but I think the Cardinals

1078
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: are really feisty. Still. It's like that division, you're probably

1079
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: gonna have some more losses in that, whereas the Eagles

1080
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: their division very much easier path. So yeah, huge game

1081
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: for both. I'm really looking forward to. I think it'll

1082
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: be a really big game, playoff rematch from last year,

1083
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: and a game where green Bay was right there in

1084
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: Philly even though they were dealing with some injuries and

1085
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: their defense definitely was not as good as it is

1086
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: this year. I think you get their best st effort here.

1087
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: So I do like green Bay under a field goal.

1088
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: And the good thing for the Packers is now they

1089
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: still have to play Chicago twice, but like Chicago's good

1090
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: enough where they could they could win any divisional game.

1091
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: It's like that crazy you know, it's more variable there,

1092
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: so like all four teams can beat each other in

1093
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: a given matchup, and there's still a lot of I

1094
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: think the Packers still have to play multiple games against

1095
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: the Bears. They still have to go to Detroit, they go.

1096
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: I think they get Minnesota. They get Minnesota at home.

1097
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, yeah, and the Eagles have they

1098
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: still play the Commanders twice, who are a mass unit.

1099
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: With Daniels probably out for the year, They have the Raiders,

1100
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: they host the Bears, they get the Cowboys again.

1101
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: So these next the Eagles are getting to twelve minimum,

1102
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: it's like, can they get to fourteen? Right?

1103
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, I think they'll drop They'll probably drop a

1104
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: couple more, but it probably won't matter. I mean, if

1105
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: you get the twelve there's a good shot I think

1106
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: at the one seat that they get the one seed

1107
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: in the NFC just because the divisions are so loaded

1108
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: this year ye that it's hard to see many teams

1109
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: get into thirteen with how competitive like the one team

1110
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: that would be your candidate is probably the Eagles because

1111
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: of their division. But they they go and this this

1112
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: next two weeks will determine that they go to Green Bay,

1113
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: they host Detroit, and then later in the year they're

1114
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: at the Bills.

1115
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: So they go two and three in those games. They're

1116
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: in great shape.

1117
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

1118
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: And the thing is in the the NFC West, what

1119
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: could throw it off is that that line is you know,

1120
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I just don't think they know what to do with

1121
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers right now, but they do obviously,

1122
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: they play the Rams this week at home, and their

1123
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: first game when they beat Seattle was in Seattle, so

1124
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: they still get Seattle at home and they get some

1125
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: home games. It's not like you know, Levi stadiums exactly, Arrowhead,

1126
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: but it is a pretty big advantage to get a

1127
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: home game don't have to travel.

1128
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's a tough game, Like, let's just start.

1129
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: With that game, because I do think the forty nine ers,

1130
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean this pretty thing clearly. I mean,

1131
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: he might play one more game this season, and then

1132
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: it gets worse, like he's the mac Jones is their quarterback,

1133
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: but they've been competing in winning games with mac Jones.

1134
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 1: It's more of the other things, like they lose Brice

1135
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: Huff and immediately he was by far their best pass

1136
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: rusher once Bosa goes out. But the problem is he's

1137
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: a part time player and he had to play a

1138
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: bunch and what happens, he gets hurt on the last

1139
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 1: play of the game. So it's like they last week,

1140
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: or you know, a couple of weeks ago against Texans,

1141
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: they were rolling out me and you and the defensive

1142
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: lines is not good enough, and they're just rolling with

1143
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of random guys on defense, guy.

1144
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: Like Williams Gross Matos and those guys are on ir.

1145
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and Pearson's knees clearly messed up. He's not

1146
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: able to play. So their most explosive pass catcher beside

1147
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: Kittle is out and Kendrick Barn's been really good. But

1148
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, the Rams have a lot of momentum coming

1149
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: into this game. Now, Kyle's always played Sean McVay really well,

1150
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: but just from a strength standpoint that you're playing a

1151
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: healthy team versus team that's just on fumes. And look

1152
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: what it took for the forty nine ers to win

1153
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: that game in La a crazy fumble late in the game.

1154
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: Mac Jones played the game of his life and Stafford

1155
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: had what three hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns.

1156
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: So it's like, if you tell me that Stafford throws

1157
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: for three hundred fifty yards and three touchdowns, again, I

1158
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: do think you're gonna get to the point where it's

1159
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: just gonna be hard for the forty nine ers to win.

1160
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: Now if it's a ten point game and maybe they

1161
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: get a late touchdown, I just think that four and

1162
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: a half is kind of tasty, But that's I'm leaning

1163
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers there, you know, at home, big dog.

1164
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, this doesn't make

1165
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: or break their season. Losing this game, right splitting with

1166
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: the Rams, I think they would have taking that at

1167
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season right for sure.

1168
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tough game because I don't mind the over

1169
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: I know, and when divisional foes meet for the second time,

1170
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: those games tend to trend under a bit just because

1171
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: of familiarity historically, But I think those There's two things.

1172
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers offense is clearly in a better

1173
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: spot than it was from the first game, because Kittle

1174
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: does add so much, not only right way to catch,

1175
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: but in the running game with his blocking. It's is

1176
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: the best all around tight end in the NFL. So

1177
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: their offense is in a better spot, but the defense

1178
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: is not. And I just I don't even know if

1179
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: anybody knows how bad this forty nine Ers defense might be,

1180
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: because after all the injuries, they played Houston, who didn't

1181
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: have any receivers, and then they played the Giants, who

1182
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: also have were injury ravaged. But the Giants still put

1183
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: up twenty four, the Texans had the ball the entire game,

1184
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: Like one of the Texans ever had the ball for

1185
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: forty minutes in the game.

1186
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: So they are the best game in like two years, right.

1187
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cannot generate pressure like it's to their defense,

1188
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: and now they're going up against one of the best

1189
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: offenses in the NFL. So I think it's going to

1190
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: be very, very difficult for them to get stops. And

1191
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: the Rams play fast, They're probably gonna throw a lot

1192
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: and have a lot of success. Nikou is back he's

1193
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: huge against zone heavy defenses. But on the flip side,

1194
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: I also think the Rams have at the moment the

1195
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: most overrated defense in the league.

1196
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1197
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't think there are a bad defense by any stretch,

1198
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: but like if you look at statistically like EPA per play,

1199
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: like they're number one, Like statistically they're the number one

1200
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: defense in the league right now in a lot of metrics,

1201
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: like the Texans are the best pass defense. I think

1202
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: the Texans are the best defense overall, but by a

1203
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: lot of metrics, the Rams are up there at the

1204
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: top of the leader board. Well, that's what happens when

1205
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: you play Cooper Rush and the Ravens, Tyler Schuck and

1206
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: the Saints, the Jaguars in London like that. That's their

1207
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: last three games, so they've definitely benefited from who they played.

1208
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: And when I do think that that back end, that

1209
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: secondary is still vulnerable.

1210
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: Jones lit them up. Yeah, Kendrick Bourd.

1211
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: Through of three fifty and Kittle didn't even play in

1212
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: that game. Now the fort nine ers are playing faster

1213
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: than they usually do with Mac Jones and they're throwing more.

1214
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: Jones lit them up underneath last game, so I would

1215
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: imagine the Rams don't let that happen. So I think

1216
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: there's gonna be more opportunities for some more explosive plays

1217
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers down the field, which are

1218
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: always helpful to an over So yeah, I don't mind

1219
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. Look, I'm just.

1220
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: Who on the forty nine ers can starch the field though.

1221
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's where Pearsall would be big back.

1222
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: And you just got to hope that Jennings continues to

1223
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: like kidle down the scene. But Jennings continues to like

1224
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: just get more in tune with this offense. But it

1225
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: is a good point. I will say this has been

1226
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: a dog dominated series. This is getting to the point

1227
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: where it's like Steelers Ravens. These teams have met fourteen

1228
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: times since twenty nineteen, including the playoffs underdog thirteen and

1229
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: one against the spread. Ten of the fourteen outright have

1230
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: been won by the underdog, so this is usually a

1231
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: lot of familiarity divisional opponents like these games are usually

1232
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: tight and the dog is usually a good bet. I

1233
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: just I don't know. I fear that I don't I'm

1234
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: not even accounting for these forty nine ers defensive injuries

1235
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: enough and they're just gonna get carved because they just

1236
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: haven't seen a Culton offense like the Rams since they've

1237
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: been this decimated. So that's my main fear there. Ram's

1238
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: also dealing with like some kicker issues, so you could

1239
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: see mcvaye more aggressive here on fourth downs. They signed

1240
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: the thicker kicker Harris and Metis, but we'll see. I'm

1241
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: looking forward to that one though. But it has been

1242
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: a dog dominated series.

1243
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: And one issue is if the Niners are down, pass

1244
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: blocking is a struggle, and one thing the Rams can

1245
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: do is their defense. Wine can get that's the stress.

1246
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: It's like I can envision Mac Jones getting hit so hard.

1247
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: He's just laying there on the grounds, like, oh, this

1248
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: guy better get up, or Adrian Martinez is coming in,

1249
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: because that that basically happened in that first game. He

1250
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: just toughed it out. But as you know, he's just

1251
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: he's tough. I've come around. I have a lot of

1252
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: respect for mac Jones. There's no disputing his toughness, right,

1253
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been getting fucking pepper this season and

1254
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: keeping the forty nine ers alive.

1255
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: So now it's a good point. That could be the downfall. Like,

1256
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: if you're the Rams, that's what I would do. I

1257
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: would take away everything underneath, make the forty nine ers

1258
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 2: hit more downfield shots, more long developing routes, while letting

1259
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: your pass rush get home. Because if you're letting them

1260
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: kill you underneath, you're also newtering your pass rush, which

1261
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: is the strength of your defense. So yeah, that that

1262
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: is a very valid point. But yeah, I'm really looking

1263
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: forward to I do think both the forty nine of

1264
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: defense is a mess, and I do think the Rams

1265
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: defense is a bit overrated at the moment. But we'll

1266
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: see if the forty nine ers can take advantage.

1267
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, their downfall why they might not win the Super

1268
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: Bowl is going to be the secondary like playing Seattle,

1269
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: even Philly can hit big plays on them. Obviously Green Bay,

1270
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: it's just either're not going to be able to cover.

1271
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have liked them to just add one

1272
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: more piece, like prior to the season or at the

1273
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: track trade deadline on the back end like that, they

1274
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: are like one really good piece in the secondary way

1275
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: from I think just being the most well rounded team

1276
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: in the NSA.

1277
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a story come out, but I'd be

1278
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: shocked if they weren't also talking about the Sauce situation.

1279
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: But having been in that world, Jalen Ramsey was a

1280
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: much better player when they traded for him, and a

1281
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: much more versatile player, much more physical tackler. I mean,

1282
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: he's just a better player. I mean, if you could

1283
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: take either guy in his prime, I'm taking Jalen Ramsey

1284
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: not even hesitating. And they did that same exact trade

1285
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: for a better player. So it's like we're not going

1286
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: to get in a biding war for a guy that

1287
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: wasn't as good as we've already made this trade. So

1288
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: that's probably where like, yeah, we're just we're not gonna

1289
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: quote unquote overpaid. Even Sauce is like you know, I

1290
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: get it. They gave up a lot to get me

1291
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: say that. Today. I was like, this guy's a I

1292
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: like sauce the person, probably more than the player, and

1293
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: he's a big golf guy. Bills I typically, you know,

1294
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: if you've taught me this over the years, when everyone

1295
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: hates a team and you get these huge lines, especially

1296
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: divisional games, I just wonder Miami at this point, if

1297
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: it could just really start to unravel. And this is

1298
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: a spot like if the Bills are truly you know,

1299
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender or a team that's gonna win

1300
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: the AFC, you come in and you just put your

1301
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: foot on their throat. Now, this line's big nine and

1302
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: a half. But you watch the Bills defensive lines, like

1303
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: if they played like they do against the Chiefs against

1304
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: other random opponents, they would have way more blowouts. I mean,

1305
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: the asionally do right. You'll just look up and they'll

1306
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: be playing like the Saints of the Panthers. They forget

1307
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: him and they were up like four. Yeah, but it's

1308
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: like they'll also be in that game and it was

1309
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: like is it seventeen to seventeen right now? So it's

1310
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: like they get up for the Chiefs and they play

1311
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning football and then they play this week.

1312
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: But I would imagine this is a spot where it's like, hey, guys,

1313
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: and luckily they still got a lot to play for

1314
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: because New England is right there with them and already

1315
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: beat them. So I expect a spirited effort. And I

1316
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: just wonder when Miami does the one two three bahamas.

1317
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, I mean the GM firing a GM doesn't

1318
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: really impact the players, but the McDaniel situation. You know,

1319
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: it's like these guys listening to them, they know like

1320
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: more than likely I'm gonna be on another team next year.

1321
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: I just think this thing could get really weird, really fast.

1322
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: The to A thing is getting weirder by the week.

1323
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: If the Bills are real, they win this game by

1324
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: like twenty points, So I'm taking I'm hammering the Bills

1325
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: here minus nine and a half.

1326
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't bee. I mean, I'm principal. I can't join. Yeah,

1327
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: Like this is just Bilo sell high principles. Like the

1328
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: Dolphins got blown out on Thursday night, get extra rest.

1329
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: The Bills just had Max Effort win as an underdog

1330
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. Now they go on the road to

1331
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: a divisional opponent, who played them pretty well in the

1332
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: first meeting. Like, so it's kind of like a sleek

1333
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: you know down in Miami. That's not good. It's just

1334
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: so I could see them coming out so flat.

1335
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: It is a sleepy environment there. Yeah, and they suck

1336
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: so and.

1337
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 2: The Dolphins might be able to run the ball a

1338
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: bit like that's the that's buffaloes. But I mean, I

1339
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: can't I can't talk you out of it. I will

1340
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: say the Bills, Like, the Bills have been able to

1341
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: get pressure all year. What has held them back in

1342
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: the playoffs has always been their defense. Their offense has

1343
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: always been fine. You look back at any playoff loss,

1344
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 2: it's never on the offense. It's always been the defense

1345
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: letting them down. And a lot of that in recent

1346
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 2: seasons has been the secondary. And that was my biggest

1347
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: question for them coming into the year. I thought they

1348
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: might add peace at the trade deadline. But last week

1349
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: there was two really eye opening performances that might get

1350
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: them over the hump. Bishop Bishops play Utah kid and

1351
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: then Harriston, a Kentucky kid in my backyard, their first

1352
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: round draft pick who was hurt for most of the

1353
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: year until the past two games. He looked outstanding that

1354
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 2: his speed at corner, like especially against Worthy, really jumped

1355
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: off the page.

1356
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: How did he last the end of the first round.

1357
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: Injury, A lot of injuries. He was hurt all last year,

1358
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: hurt start this year, So that was there's a lot

1359
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: of injury. He has all the tools, the speed, he's.

1360
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: A he's a top fifteen talent.

1361
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was just a ton of injury questioned

1362
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: marks with him and again this year. I mean, he

1363
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: hasn't played until the past two games, so but if

1364
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: he can continue his play of late, that's a huge boost.

1365
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: The same with Bishop because safety is an enormous question

1366
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: for the Bills this season, so that really could unlock

1367
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: their entire defense and help them finally get over the hump.

1368
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, if the Bills are like locked in fully here,

1369
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: then if this is trouble for Miami, I just fear

1370
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: the spot and then coming out a bit flat and

1371
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,959
Speaker 2: Miami might be able to run the ball and Buffalo

1372
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: might just like go through the motions running it. So yeah,

1373
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: I can't get there, but I can't blame you.

1374
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore. At Minnesota, JJ McCarthy quieted everyone down a little bit.

1375
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: Those you know, first two touchdowns. Then the game kind

1376
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: of got weird, but he did make a game winning throw.

1377
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: The Ravens long rest you know, ten days obviously played

1378
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: last Thursday. Some momentum coming into this game Brian Flores

1379
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: was he was, as the kids would say in his

1380
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: bag in that game, obviously he was super fired up.

1381
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: I mean that was a kitchen sink game from Flores.

1382
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: I just do you trust JJ McCarthy in this spot.

1383
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: That's where I get back to.

1384
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: No, not yet. I mean last week, anybody threw one

1385
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards and the lines had a bunch

1386
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: of backup defense secondary defensive backs in there. And then

1387
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 2: I think the Vikings started like in Detroit Territory and

1388
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: four other five scoring drives. So that was all about

1389
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: the defense. And before I circle back on this game,

1390
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: the Lions are broken right now. Like I last week

1391
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: was a spot they never lose right at home off

1392
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: the by first, just at home, they first, they're not

1393
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: even covered. But to lose that game their offense since

1394
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: October first, the Lions offense twenty fourth and success rate

1395
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: seventeenth ePaper play twenty ninth in rushed success rate. By

1396
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: the way, over that stretch, the Bears are number one,

1397
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: so the Bears run game is cooking. The Lions are

1398
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: not part of that. Ben Johns's departure and like everyone

1399
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's fine, and the first half of

1400
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: the year, but like they beat the Bravens defense that

1401
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: was decimated at the time, and then like the Bucks

1402
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: and then everyone was like, oh it's fine. This offensive

1403
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: line is also not fine. They're gonna move a guard

1404
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: to sent their center to guard, now their guard to

1405
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: the Mahogani's out their backup. It's a mess in the interier.

1406
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: Both their tackles might miss this game. Their offensive line

1407
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 2: can't block. Flores took full advantage. They were blitzing up

1408
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: the middle and you have Goth with pressure.

1409
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: We can't move.

1410
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a disaster. We'll see if the

1411
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: Commanders can take advantage. I did bet the Commanders plus

1412
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 2: eight and a half. I think it's way too eye

1413
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: like it would have been three three and a half

1414
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: with Daniels. Daniels right now over Mario is not worth

1415
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: like five or six points. I mean, Mario over the

1416
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: past two seasons been statistically the same as Daniels. If

1417
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: you look at their offense, they can run the ball.

1418
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: He's just not worth six points a moment. Their offense

1419
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: hasn't been clicking the lines. Of all these offensive line injuries,

1420
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: they're still not fully healthy in the secondary ultimate by

1421
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: low spot. You could say the same about the lines.

1422
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: They are twelve to zero against the spread after the

1423
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: past twelve losses. But I took I took over a

1424
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: touchdown there. But getting back to the Ravens, I played

1425
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: them first half, first half minus two and a half.

1426
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: I have some gaudy numbers on the Ravens and Lamar

1427
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: in the first half. It is like one of the

1428
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: best sport, one of the best spots to bet in

1429
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: the NFL since Lamar has entered the league in the

1430
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: first half overall in its career, he's sixty one to

1431
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: thirty six and two against the spread sixty three percent,

1432
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: covering by about a field goal per game, which is insane.

1433
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: Average cover margin in the first half is by a

1434
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: field goal per game. How about as a favorite in

1435
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: the first half fifty three thirty and two against the

1436
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: spread sixty four percent, covering by three and a half

1437
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: points per game. How about as a road favorite twenty

1438
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: eight ten and one against the spread seventy four percent,

1439
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: covering by five points per game. Usually the Ravens are

1440
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: very well prepared early in games. Usually it's a shock

1441
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: to the system when you see Lamar in his speed

1442
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: and teams that don't see him often usually takes them

1443
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: time to adjust, and you see the Ravens jump out

1444
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: to Leeds early on. I think all of that's in play.

1445
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: The Ravens having extra time to prepare Lamar is extra

1446
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: time to heal up. I think you'll see him be

1447
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: more mobile this week. The offense is also now one

1448
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: hundred percent healthy, like not only was Lamar out, like

1449
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: you had recard, likely all the guys that enable them

1450
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: to play the packages that they need to play to

1451
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: give them the advantages that other offenses don't have. Right,

1452
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: you don't see the same looks as you do when

1453
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: you play the Ravens against other teams, and that's one

1454
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: of the reasons that have such an advantage. And it's

1455
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: so much more difficult for defenses to play them as

1456
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 2: opposed to play And you know these spread offenses, the

1457
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: eleven personnel, their offense is not fully healthy, their defense

1458
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: is also now fully healthy, and you look at their

1459
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: injury report. No One on there this week. The defensive

1460
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: line is still an issue. That's the only place to

1461
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: have injuries, but they're out for the year like Mada Bouquet.

1462
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: Huge loss that added Draymond Jones from helps a bit,

1463
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: but their run dye will still be an issue. But

1464
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: the Vikings are not an efficient rushing attack bottom ten

1465
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL, so I don't think they can fully

1466
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: take advantage. So I expect the Ravens to come out

1467
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: here jump out to a lead. They're also number one

1468
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: and explosive run rate. Vikings really struggle in that department,

1469
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: so I like the Ravens first half. They've also been

1470
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: blitzing a lot lately, blitzing more because their defensive line

1471
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: can't generate pressure. McCarthy's really struggled against the Blitz so far.

1472
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: I am very fascinated by the matchup of Lamar versus Flores.

1473
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: I think in their first meeting, which was like seventy

1474
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: eight years ago when Flores was in Miami, Lamar beat

1475
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: him fifty nine to ten. And by the way, Lamar

1476
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: is the best quarterback in the league against the Blitz

1477
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 2: right now, which is another scary thing for the Vikings.

1478
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Lamar versus the blitz. This year, he's completing

1479
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: seventy nine percent of his passes. The next best is

1480
01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: seventy two. He has seven touchdowns, one interception, and he's

1481
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: completing seventy nine percent of his passes. He has the

1482
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: second highest yards per attempt and the high and the

1483
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: fourth highest a die. So he's also throwing down the

1484
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: field completing like eighty percent of his passes. You just

1485
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: can't blitz Lamar. However, there was a game. You might

1486
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: remember this game. I think it was in like twenty

1487
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 2: twenty one where it was on a short week Thursday

1488
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,440
Speaker 2: night game in Miami. Baltimore went down there and Flores

1489
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: had Lamar lost. He had he ran the same blitz

1490
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: thirty three times in this game, the same middle fire blitz.

1491
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: It was insane and the Ravens couldn't figure out what

1492
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: to do, and Lamar was under pressure the entire game.

1493
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: So I am fascinating to see how that plays out.

1494
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: But if Flaco come into that game and get killed

1495
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: or is that a different game? I think that was

1496
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: a didn't Flack go get killed one night on a

1497
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Thursday night game?

1498
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was in a different spot, But

1499
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: I do remember that too, But this game was was

1500
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 2: was wild like Flora's had Lamar fluster. Now, I that

1501
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: was a short week going down the man any like

1502
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 2: extra time of Perrier fully healthy on offense. I like

1503
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens or I like the Ravens in the first

1504
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: half for sure.

1505
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: Uh, Jacksonville at the Texans. Obviously CJ's out Texans home dog.

1506
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to make of Davis Mills.

1507
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: Obviously they got a ton of injuries as well. Jacksonville's

1508
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers are just in shambles. They have to trade

1509
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: for Jacobe Myers. I honestly kind of like the Texans

1510
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: in this spot. I just think they're gonna get after

1511
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence.

1512
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's probably what the sides this now that

1513
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: they're a dog, I would look at Texans or nothing.

1514
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: If you're a teaser better, I don't mind like teasing

1515
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 2: the Texans now up over a touchdown with like the Jets.

1516
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: I know that's ugly, but like that total both games

1517
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: are have total like thirty eight the Jets. There's a

1518
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: ton of weather. I know Sauce is no only there,

1519
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: but it's the Browns offense, Like does that really matter.

1520
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, the one thing I worry about

1521
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: with the Texans who I mean, they should have beat

1522
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,440
Speaker 2: the Broncos last week if Stroud doesn't go down. Was unfortunate,

1523
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: but they have the best defense in the league in

1524
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: my opinion, that should win them the game here. The

1525
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: Jags offense is a mess right now, especially at receiver.

1526
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they can block Houston. One of

1527
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: my fears though, and look, Houston's their weapons are healthy

1528
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: now like you have Collins, you have Kirk. My fear

1529
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: is that they lost Titus Howard in that game last

1530
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: week to an injury. And that's the Titus Howard's on

1531
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: an elite tackle, but he's better than the backup Fisher

1532
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: is really bad. And the Jags do have pass rushers.

1533
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: But the Texans, they have made a pretty smart change

1534
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: over the past couple of weeks and it's solved some

1535
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: of their pass protection issues because the Broncos last week

1536
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: had their second lowest pressure rate of the season. The

1537
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: forty nine ers couldn't get any pressure, but that was

1538
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: a lot to do with the forty nine ers, but

1539
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: they started using a lot more six offensive lineman packages.

1540
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 2: They've been going jump to help out with protection and

1541
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: help Stroud out and it's paid dividends. But if Howard's

1542
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: out like you're, can they do that as often? And

1543
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: then when they don't, your right tackle is much weaker.

1544
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: So that is a bit of a concern. But now

1545
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 2: that this line is flipped to Houston as an underdog,

1546
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,879
Speaker 2: I think that's the play. The same with the Jets,

1547
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: like it's ugly. Who wants to bet the Jets now?

1548
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: But now that that line has flipped to the Jets,

1549
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I just don't think that Dylan

1550
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: Gabriel should be a road favorite. And the Browns defense,

1551
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: we've seen it for three years. It is not the

1552
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: same unit for whatever reason on the road. They just

1553
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: do not play up to the same level when they're

1554
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: outside of the land. And like I said, Sauce not

1555
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: going to be there. Who cares? It's I mean, Gabriel's

1556
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: success rates like thirty six percent, lowest in the league

1557
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: by a wide margin. He's that offense is not going

1558
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: to take full advantage. Quinn Williams loss will hurt as

1559
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: a run stopper, but he's a deep tackle. He's not

1560
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: worth three four points to the spread. So I like

1561
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: the Jets the dog. God forbid. If you bet that game,

1562
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: you and you have to watch it, there's gonna be

1563
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: rain and it's gonna be ugly. But yeah, I would

1564
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: look at both both the Texans and Jets' home dogs.

1565
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: Colts, what was your initial reaction when he saw the trade?

1566
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was way too expensive because I'm just

1567
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: not a believer in Daniel Jones. Now if if they

1568
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: are a believer in Daniel Jones, like then they think

1569
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: they can win a super Bowl, then that's that's how

1570
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 2: we we'll got we will grade this trade. Like remember

1571
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: that the Rams some of their moves that they made,

1572
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: and everyone was like, what are they doing? They trade

1573
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: all their draftics. Way they got a super Bowl, so

1574
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: you can't it was the right move? Was it was right? Now?

1575
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: I know, like if it's playing Monday morning quarterback, But

1576
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: that's what you're in this to do is win a super.

1577
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: Bowl, and they went to another one like they were

1578
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: winning big games.

1579
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: Yes, so I do like I think I like that

1580
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: that Ballot is now being aggressive in the secondary might

1581
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: because he's his seat was getting a little warm. It's

1582
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 2: something that he's neglected for years. But Ward getting Ward

1583
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: Gardner and you have Kenny Moore in the slot. Now

1584
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: you know that's arguably the best corner trio in the NFL.

1585
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: Your safeties are solid because you went out and you

1586
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: added safeties in the off season. You also got rid

1587
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: of your horrendous defensive coordinator. You brought in a pretty

1588
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: good one. Like now, the defense once especially once Ward

1589
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: comes back, it's the passer still isn't great, but it's

1590
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 2: championship caliber. The offense, you have the offensive line, you

1591
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: have the best running back in the NFL. You have

1592
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: great weapons, great versatile weapons everywhere. It just comes out

1593
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: of the quarterback. Now you believe in Daniel Jones and

1594
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: you will go after and you think you can win

1595
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, then I think it's the right move,

1596
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: even if I think it was too much to give up. However,

1597
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't believe in Daniel Jones, Like I don't think

1598
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones can win a Super Bowl, so therefore I

1599
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: would not have done it. Like even when Ward comes back.

1600
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 2: Your your secondary is good enough if you want to

1601
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: like make a but they must believe in Jones, because

1602
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: that's what this signals. This signals that they believe in Jones.

1603
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 2: They don't need to get another quarterback, they don't need

1604
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: draft capital, and they're going to be in on him

1605
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: for this year, next and so on. So but I

1606
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, we have a

1607
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: large sample size that says who Jones is. And I

1608
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 2: know that the situation wasn't great, but I mean, look

1609
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: at last week against the Steelers defense that couldn't stop

1610
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 2: a nosebleed all year, and they end up turning the

1611
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 2: ball over every other possession. He looks flustered, and I

1612
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 2: just can't see at the end of the day, to

1613
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: get through the AFC, you're gonna need to have an

1614
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: elite quarterback who can go toe to toe with Alan,

1615
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: with Mahomes, with potentially Lamar. I don't see it. But

1616
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: I like that they're finally being aggressive and it's exciting

1617
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: for Colts fans. In terms of this week, I do

1618
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: think the line is too hot, just like last time.

1619
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: Couldn't they just put Aren't they just gonna put sauce

1620
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: on Drake London? Probably?

1621
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so. I've played the Falcons my worst bet

1622
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: of the week. I still show value in it, but

1623
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 2: I bet it before I bet him plus six because

1624
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: I showed value, I think it should be like four

1625
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 2: four and a halfl Like I think the Colts are

1626
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: just overvalued right now, just like last week. But now

1627
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: there's a couple of things that worked against me. They

1628
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: traded for Gardner, a lot of them certainty there that

1629
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna start. And one of the reasons

1630
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: I bet the Falcons is like, well, London without war,

1631
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 2: it's gonna have a huge advantage here. But now can

1632
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: Gardner neutrals him? I mean Gardner all he does is

1633
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: line up against ones and that forces the tightest throw

1634
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: rate in the entire league. I don't know. I mean,

1635
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: in a short week with international travel, is he like

1636
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: fully up to speed, He's gonna play every snap? Are

1637
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: they gonna is he just gonna play one side of

1638
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: the field and keep it simple. Are they're gonna have

1639
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: just packages for I don't. I really don't know. But

1640
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: that's obviously a huge upgrade for who they are on

1641
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: the outside, and it takes away the potential advantage for London. Additionally,

1642
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the injury report yet today, but the

1643
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: Falcons could be without both of their guards and that

1644
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: could be devastating. They're already without their right tackle. Both

1645
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 2: their guards are excellent and their backups they have no depth,

1646
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: so they could be shorthanded along the offensive line. It's

1647
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: also not a great matchup for the Falcons because the

1648
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: Falcon should be out there on defense at least the

1649
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: Carrison should be back. Bowman should be back. Has been

1650
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: really good as a rookie, and the Falcons passed he's

1651
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: been excellent. They don't They don't allow any explosive passes,

1652
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I bet him last week

1653
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: against the Patriots. They also can get pressure that could

1654
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: end up being the difference, like if they just forced

1655
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones into being a pumpkin again. But the Falcons

1656
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: can't stop the run, and especially without Devon Diablo's on

1657
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: ir and their backup linebackers are really poor in that department.

1658
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: And Stiking came out after last week and said, look,

1659
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: I didn't give the ball to Jonathan Taylor enough last week,

1660
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: So what does that lead you to believe? Well, this

1661
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: is going to be a big Jonathan Taylor game. And

1662
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: like the Patriots can't run the ball, so that was

1663
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: good for the Falcons last week. The Colts can. So

1664
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: if the Colts then are just gashing them with Taylor,

1665
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: that means you're safety's got to start coming up, and

1666
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 2: then that means your play action and then you're gonna

1667
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: have all the throws that Jones can make and has

1668
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: made you know, you're easy throws to all of their

1669
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 2: weapons when with the defense just fully committing to Taylor,

1670
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: who they might not be able to stop. So yeah,

1671
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: with Gardner in the mix, the offensive line injuries for

1672
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: the Falcons, I do not like them as much as

1673
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: I did. My numbers still do, but match up and

1674
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,520
Speaker 2: other factors now with Gardner being added and that uncertainty

1675
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: around that probably wouldn't play it now. If it does

1676
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: get to a seven, I would still play the Falcons,

1677
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 2: but not the best matchup for them. Very inconsistent team too,

1678
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 2: Like what are you getting from the Falcons on a

1679
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: weekend week out basis? You never know.

1680
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: We talked about this last week that the Tomlin spot

1681
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: and it was kind of at a fork in the

1682
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: road for a season for his career potentially with Pittsburgh,

1683
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: and they answered the bell. But there was a moment

1684
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: in that game They're down seven to nothing and the

1685
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: Colts had had like a fourteen play drive and they'd

1686
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: only gone like forty yards, but it was like, is

1687
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: this how you're Jay is just going to go out

1688
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: just getting just slowly bludgeoned to death. And then TJ

1689
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: came through with that fumble sack and then it turned

1690
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: and then they rattled off seventeen points and then the

1691
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: floodgates opened with their pass rush. Well the Chargers, you know,

1692
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Alt is out now that offensive line man is just

1693
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: I If that Steelers defensive line plays like they just did,

1694
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't see how the Chargers can win the game. Especially,

1695
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 1: let's face it, they become pretty past happy. Greg Romans

1696
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: kind of changed his tune this year, rightfully, so he

1697
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. But

1698
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: how are they going to protect them? But I've bet

1699
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: on this before, and all of a sudden, TJ's just

1700
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. But when they play like they

1701
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 1: did last week and he starts playing well, it opens

1702
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: up for everyone else. And then you just got guys

1703
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: coming from all different angles and I can just envision

1704
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: if they have the same defensive line effort. I just

1705
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: don't see how I like the Steelers here plus three

1706
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: plus you know this home field for the Chargers, there

1707
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: are going to do it is going to be eighty percent.

1708
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: I mean I remember going to Raider games at the

1709
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: Coliseum when they would play the Steelers, and I swore

1710
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: to God it was like basically a Steelers home game.

1711
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: They have a lot of fans and they have a

1712
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: ton that live on the West Coast. This place is

1713
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna be loud. They're gonna have to go silent count

1714
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure. And to me, it just all comes down

1715
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: to do I get this similar effort from the front,

1716
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Because if I do, then it's on like Donkey Kong.

1717
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: If not, then yeah, I mean he wouldn't shock me

1718
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: at off. The Chargers win, But I'm just betting on

1719
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: this pass rush. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm taking

1720
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers here plus three.

1721
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind taking the points here. One other

1722
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: note on the Colts just there will be a game

1723
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: soon when they get fourth down out of the game.

1724
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 2: So there were Stichens very aggressive. They're fifteen of seventeen

1725
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 2: on fourth down this year. Their opponents are nine of eighteen.

1726
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: So they've been very fortunate. But they're gonna have a

1727
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: game Like last week. I think they were three or

1728
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: three or four or four. Again, They're gonna have a

1729
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 2: game where they go like, oh, three on fourth downs

1730
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: to kill three scoring drives and then get upset. So

1731
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: they have some pending fourth down variants that it's coming.

1732
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: Just start throw that out there.

1733
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: But that's a big reason too. Like when you you know,

1734
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: historically when you see didn't punt, it was always like ah,

1735
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: they probably scored forty points. Now that happens a lot.

1736
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: It's like, well, these teams are going four and fourth down. Yeah,

1737
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 1: like it. It's a little bit of a different The

1738
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: game is played a little differently than it was ten, fifteen,

1739
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, right yep.

1740
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 2: In regards to the Chargers. Yet this Vielers also, I

1741
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 2: will note I talked about this last week. I said, hey,

1742
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 2: with all these injuries, with the Shawn Elliott out, and like,

1743
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: this is the time where let's I want to see

1744
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: what they change. They should change their compets. They should

1745
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: go or too high against Daniel Jones, who's not as

1746
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: good against too high important and will make mistakes. Well

1747
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: that's what they did. They went more too high as

1748
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: much as they did all year, and they put Ramsey

1749
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: back at safety. So they made some changes that paid

1750
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: off on the back end and then their pass rushers

1751
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: came to play because that's a good Colts offensive line,

1752
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 2: and they made plays. And that's usually what happens when

1753
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers win games, and when they win as underdogs,

1754
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: it's a huge It's almost like a replay of what

1755
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: beating the tackle and then stripping the quarterback and recovering it.

1756
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times have we seen that. It's

1757
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: thirty two times over the past eight years, and it's

1758
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 2: a game changing play. So yeah, the all loss is

1759
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: just devastating. I mean, there's not many teams. There's just

1760
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 2: an epidemic in the NFL with lack of offensive line

1761
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: depth and caliber play. When you have two bookend you know,

1762
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl cal tackles, that is such an advantage over

1763
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 2: the rest of the league. Not many teams can say that,

1764
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 2: But losing both is not. I don't think any team

1765
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 2: can really overcome that. And they've also had other injuries

1766
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: in the interior and the center has been a mess.

1767
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,799
Speaker 2: But that's if you look now, it's probably not this drastic,

1768
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 2: but this is what the numbers say. If you just

1769
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 2: look at the on off splits with with all and

1770
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 2: without all, and the numbers said this, and to be

1771
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 2: honest with you. The eye test as it, I mean,

1772
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: it's crazy. There they go. They're a top five offense

1773
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 2: over the past two years with all and a bottom

1774
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 2: five offense without him. Now, I don't think he's worth

1775
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: that much, but it's it's drastic, especially when you don't

1776
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 2: have Slatter if you want to go other tackle like,

1777
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: the trickle down effect is massive, and the Steelers are

1778
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: specifically built to take full advantage.

1779
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: So everyone in the AFC has good pass us and

1780
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: specifically in their division, right, you can put guys over

1781
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: the tackle once you have a week link from Max

1782
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 1: Crosby obviously Denver and the Chiefs that it can expose

1783
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: you in the blink of an eye. And that's where

1784
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers fall, right.

1785
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one team that doesn't is the Ravens. If

1786
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: you're a Chargers fan, you wouldn't mind seeing the matchups

1787
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 2: from that aspect because they don't have they don't have

1788
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: the elite head rushers. They're like defensive line. Chargers could

1789
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 2: handle that, so that would just be a shootout with

1790
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: the Chargers. The Chargers and Ravens play in the playoffs,

1791
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: that's probably a good over anyway. I'm geting ahead of myself.

1792
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, that could just wreck the game. And this

1793
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: offense is not the same without all because they'd already

1794
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 2: don't have Slater and it's will in all likelihood cap

1795
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 2: the Chargers ceiling. Now, they went out and they traded

1796
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: for Trevor Penning. I mean, that's not going to move

1797
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 2: the needle. But there was nothing they really can do

1798
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: because tackles are defensive, they're also very rare. There's the

1799
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 2: very scarce resource, so you can't go out and like

1800
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: break the bank for a tackle at the trade deadline

1801
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: when you already have two Pro Bowls there to come

1802
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 2: back next year, so that you're just stuck and you

1803
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: got to get Penning and play them a technically even

1804
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: though he's more of a guard, and fail to tackle

1805
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. I think that's that's their solution. It's

1806
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 2: like it's like Bobby Hart and Trevor Penning. Beckton might

1807
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 2: not even play. Bozman's been one of the worst centers

1808
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 2: in the league. It's it's a mess, and it's probably

1809
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 2: gonna cap their ceiling and will probably prevent them from

1810
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: having a chance of making a run at winning Super Bowl.

1811
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 2: So I imagine that this is next year is a

1812
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 2: huge year for the Chargers and for Herbert, like you

1813
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 2: get they'll be interesting in the futures market, Like Hardball's

1814
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: continuing to kind of build that roster how he wants

1815
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: it and kind of forming it and like, now you

1816
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 2: give them one more offseason, kind of plug some of

1817
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: the holes that they have. There's still some holes on

1818
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 2: that defense that they could fix, and then you get

1819
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 2: the tackles healthy. I think maybe another intier offensive line

1820
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 2: they got to fix. The center.

1821
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Slayer's injury was really bad though, Like it was like

1822
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: a devastating knee injury. I think, yeah, that's fair and stuff.

1823
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: You just never know. That's I mean, I'm rooting for them,

1824
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: but it was like it wasn't just your typical It's

1825
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: like Brandon Ayuk. It wasn't just an Aco. It was

1826
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: all these ligaments and like Brandon I he's probably not

1827
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: even gonna play this year. It's like, it's that's true,

1828
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: that's just the one red flag. Obviously, if Alt's there,

1829
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: you can figure out another tackle. If Slater's career, let's say,

1830
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: is in question in the off season, it's easier to

1831
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: handle that than yeah right now.

1832
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 2: But now I think next season is the the more

1833
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 2: intriguing season for the Chargers now. And yeah, I don't

1834
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: mind taking the three on Sunday night because it might

1835
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 2: just be that simple that the and the Steelers have

1836
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 2: moved the ball officially with Rogers. Yeah, and they're they're

1837
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 2: unique to play against it. They're kind of like a

1838
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: This is another thing I liked about the Steelers last

1839
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 2: week is against the Colts. The Colts can't cover tight

1840
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 2: ends to say their lives, which might be an issue

1841
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: in the AFC playoffs. And another reason why I don't

1842
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: love the Falcons is because the Falcons have to just

1843
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: like one tight end. They don't. But the Steelers play

1844
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 2: very unique. They play with all these tight ends and

1845
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 2: it's not like your normal offense that you're gonna see.

1846
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they give up their third rounder for Brisol? Yeah?

1847
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 2: I could have seen. I thought the chief I really

1848
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 2: did think the Chiefs were gonna The Chiefs just refused

1849
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: to like I mean, I guess they're they like Preshot Smith.

1850
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: But well, they offered a four. They just wouldn't go

1851
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: to three.

1852
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah today, but I mean they draft they used the

1853
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 2: first on a running back recently. I guess they saw

1854
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 2: how that worked out.

1855
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's harder for them. They got

1856
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: some high priced guys. They aren't going anywhere. You know,

1857
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: you kind of need those picks.

1858
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: That's fair, Yeah, I mean because they do have to

1859
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 2: worry about continuing to build that roster up with the youth.

1860
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was surprised he didn't get moved though,

1861
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: for sure it was at the end of the day. Yeah.

1862
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 1: So if I would have told you that Indiana, what

1863
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: six months ago, was favored by fourteen and a half

1864
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: points going into this game against Penn State, what do

1865
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: you think the circumstances would have been plane.

1866
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: Crash or some nuclear bomb.

1867
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy how that played out.

1868
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took Penn State. Doesn't feel good, I'll tell

1869
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: you that, but if there is. India has kind of

1870
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 2: banged up. They have an NFL receiver sarat he's dealing

1871
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: with the hamstring injury. Their guard who's a stud, Drew Evans,

1872
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: is gonna miss their study linebacker Aidan Fisher, he's banged up.

1873
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: I think we'll go, but we'll see Penn State. I mean,

1874
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: this kid, Grunka Meyer, who hasn't looked good the backup quarterback.

1875
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 2: But have you ever seen anyone walk into a worst situation.

1876
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 2: He had a start at Iowa was a top five

1877
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 2: d and then at Ohio State, who was the best

1878
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: defense in the country on the road. That was your

1879
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 2: first two starts as a freshman. So I would imagine

1880
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 2: he looked a little better last week, Like just when

1881
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: I say thatt are like more poised and confident in

1882
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 2: the pocket, and he's going to improve with more reps.

1883
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 2: I imagine he has to look even better this week,

1884
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 2: especially at home, right, just not having to go on

1885
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: the road against top five defenses. Now, Indiana is also

1886
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: an excellent defense for probably a top five defense as well.

1887
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: I just think it's too high. I mean the market,

1888
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 2: this is what the market told us last week. Penn

1889
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 2: State got that hard. It ended up being wrong. They

1890
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: had a chance at the end of getting the back door,

1891
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 2: but they got that hard right before kick it closed.

1892
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: That line closed sixteen and a half seventeen at Ohio State.

1893
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 2: Now we're saying Indiana is a fifteen point favorite at

1894
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 2: Penn State. Now you upgrade Indiana after the last week

1895
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 2: for crushing Maryland. You downgrade Penn State for losing at

1896
01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State, but not drastically either. Way. So let's just

1897
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: rewind and say, okay, Ohio State seventeen point home favor

1898
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 2: over Penn State. Home field for both is around three

1899
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 2: and a half points, so that implies that Ohio State

1900
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 2: would have been minus ten at Penn State last week. Well,

1901
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 2: and now Indiana is minus fifteen. The look aheadline for

1902
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 2: the potential Big Ten championship of Ohio State Indiana just opened.

1903
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 2: It's Ohio State minus three and a half. It's the market.

1904
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 2: It's not the most efficient market to look at the market,

1905
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: but that's what I also have have Ohio State. I

1906
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 2: think they're like a little field goal plus better than Indiana.

1907
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 2: But now in one week we're saying Indiana based on

1908
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 2: just these two markets. I know it's not that simple,

1909
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 2: but is five points better than Ohio State based on

1910
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: those two lines. So I had to take over two touchdowns.

1911
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 2: I make it like thirteen and I'm gonna hold my nose.

1912
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: Signetti runs it up. Maybe he does it, maybe he

1913
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 2: wants to get Mendoz to the Heisman. But Penn State

1914
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: can at least run the ball a bit their past.

1915
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: He's still pretty good. They can't stop the run for

1916
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 2: whatever reasons. Maybe that just makes Indiana run it more,

1917
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: which is helpful for a bigger dog. I took the points.

1918
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,719
Speaker 2: It's scary.

1919
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Well, Ohio State, Indiana would be the only power for

1920
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:24,839
Speaker 1: conference championship assuming Ohio State, you know, finally beats Michigan,

1921
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: where two undefeated teams are playing each other, right.

1922
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, now the Michigan again, then they're out of

1923
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: They would lose all the tiebreakers like well, obviously if Michigans, So,

1924
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 2: Michigan's probably gonna went out until that game, so Michigan

1925
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 2: would go. But also if USC wins out and Michigan

1926
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: beats Ohio State, then Michigan would go. If if Iowa

1927
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 2: wins out, and because Iowa and USC play each.

1928
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 1: Other, how does Oregon not control their own destiny if

1929
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 1: they went out, They've only had the one loss, right.

1930
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 2: Uh, Oregon, I'll tell you right now, they might. Yeah,

1931
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 2: they should, assuming loses to Michigan.

1932
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: We're saying, and again, I mean, we college football, especially

1933
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: in this era, you can never assume anything. That's one

1934
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 1: thing we've learned. Because the Oregon plays Iowa and their

1935
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: six and a half point favorite on the road, which

1936
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: let's face I mean, that's gonna be that's a tough

1937
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: place to play. That's that's a pretty good game. And

1938
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: I told you this right before we press record. I

1939
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,919
Speaker 1: missed the Pac twelve. I've moved on. But like matches

1940
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: like this are cool. You know, this is Iowa playing

1941
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: games in the middle of November against random opponents in

1942
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: the Big ten sometimes can be pretty boring. This this

1943
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: gets me to watch Iowa.

1944
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played Iowa here Farrence's their France is five

1945
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 2: and one again straight up against top ten teams in November.

1946
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,600
Speaker 2: This is a November team. They usually start peaking this

1947
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 2: time of the year. I'm still just not sold on

1948
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 2: Oregon yet. I think Oregon's a year away and they're

1949
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 2: gonna be super dangerous next year. I mean, they bring

1950
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 2: everybody back. This is super young team, just full of

1951
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 2: young town. I mean, look you can look at their

1952
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: just look at their receiving core and Sadiq the tight end,

1953
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 2: and they are so young. They're so young across the board.

1954
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Next year they might be the favorite. Although Ohio State's

1955
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:13,839
Speaker 2: bringing everyone.

1956
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: Back to they know Oregon will be right there with

1957
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Ohio State in like Texas to land the sweet transfer portal.

1958
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Guys, yes, attack right, Yeah, it's scary that Ohio State.

1959
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: Also it's like bringing everyone back next year, which.

1960
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: Is well, they're just they're now a sab and retired.

1961
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: They're they're going nowhere. They're just the power I feel like, I.

1962
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Mean, it's crazy think Jeremiah Smith can't go to the

1963
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 2: NFL Draft this year. But so I did play Iowa,

1964
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm just not a believer yet when Oregon. So

1965
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 2: everyone said Oregon they're here when they won at Penn State.

1966
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 2: But we've seen that there was more to do with

1967
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Penn State. You could even argue Oregon only scoring seventeen

1968
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 2: points in regulation and almost losing that game. I mean,

1969
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 2: there's a Penn State team that's lost six in a row.

1970
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: They lost at home the Northwestern, they lost to UCLA,

1971
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 2: they got you know, just trucked by Ohio State. At

1972
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 2: this is the Penn State is not a very good

1973
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 2: football team this year. Took Oregon to overtime. What is

1974
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 2: Oregon done other than that? Like they blew out Rutgers

1975
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,520
Speaker 2: was the worst power for defense.

1976
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: But besides they were they were up seventeen to three

1977
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: late in the game.

1978
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would still they weren't like carving them up.

1979
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 2: It was very like tough.

1980
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Time it was. That place was rocking. I mean that

1981
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: was that was.

1982
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: I still get him credit for it, but it's nowhere

1983
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 2: close to what it was. De Penn State defense is

1984
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 2: it's been bad this year. It's it's pretty shocked. I

1985
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 2: mean the game was it was three three at the half.

1986
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: I think so Oregon hasn't really played anyone else. Both

1987
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 2: these teams played Indiana at home. I had the ball

1988
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 2: with a chance to win late. Oregon did not, and

1989
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: they even got to pick six in that game. I was,

1990
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 2: defense is legit. This is a top five defense. They

1991
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 2: don't give up any explosive place. That's every year under

1992
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 2: Phil Parker, they're always top two. They make you work

1993
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 2: the ball down the field. I need to see this.

1994
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 2: Oregon offense proved to me instant the league defense. So

1995
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 2: I took the points here. The I offense is improving.

1996
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 2: They still don't have real weapons on the outside, but

1997
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: they can run the ball. They have an excellent offensive line.

1998
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 2: That's Oregon's weakness on defense. They're run defense. You can

1999
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 2: push them around a bit, so I think I will

2000
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 2: be able to control the This is gonna look like

2001
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 2: this is the only way I will win. IOA can't

2002
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 2: win this game, you know, twenty seven to twenty four.

2003
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 2: But look at the conditions of this game. Can be windy, rainy, cold,

2004
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: rocking stadium. They're gonna control the ball. Gronowski they're running,

2005
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna run him a lot. They're just gonna run

2006
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: the ball, lean on their offensive line. Weather conditions favor them,

2007
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 2: slow down the Oregon in their athletes, they're gonna take

2008
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: away explosive plays. And then the biggest advantage of all

2009
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 2: and it probably if if this is close, it will

2010
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: probably decide the game. Iowa special teams. They have the

2011
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: best special teams in the country once again every year,

2012
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,759
Speaker 2: and they'll they'll they're excellent in every single phase, talking,

2013
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 2: the punting, the field goal kicking, the returning is excellent.

2014
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 2: And Oregon has some deficiencies on special teams and that's

2015
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 2: how Iowa wins these games. And they're the totals now

2016
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 2: down to forty because of the weather. So if this

2017
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: game is like thirteen ten, seventeen, thirteen in the fourth quarter,

2018
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 2: how does Io usually win these games. They'll they'll, you'll,

2019
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 2: they'll you'll want to pull your healt because it'll be

2020
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 2: at the forty eight on fourth and two, and Kirk

2021
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 2: will punt one hundred one if it's if they're down

2022
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 2: seventeen thirteen with eight to go, fourth and two. Mark

2023
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: my words at the forty eight about Oregon's forty eight.

2024
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 2: Kirk will punt, and more times than not they'll pin.

2025
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 2: It'll be pinned at the one and then they're either

2026
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 2: going to get better field position or they'll get like

2027
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 2: a punt return touchdown on the return punt or force

2028
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 2: a safety. Their field goal kicking is really good. They're

2029
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 2: that's how and all those hidden yards. So Oregon huge

2030
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 2: athletic advantage, like just talent. Uh Parker taught Phil Parker

2031
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: that depends cortnever I would talk about this. He's like,

2032
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: they're fully funded. They have much more funding than us

2033
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 2: this week, so Landing while his guy's ready to look

2034
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 2: like he's he did a bunch of cocaine before the game,

2035
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 2: will be on the sidelines going crazy. But I took

2036
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: the points. I think it'll be low scoring points at

2037
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 2: a premium special teams could be the difference. I think

2038
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,600
Speaker 2: I will be able to run the ball enough to

2039
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 2: stay in this and I think this is like a

2040
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 2: twenty to seventeen type game.

2041
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan and me Matt lafleuror just fell

2042
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: out of their chair when you said that you can

2043
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: win games because of special teams. Yes, it's amazing what

2044
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: happens when you when you focus on those units. And

2045
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: obviously Farens has learned that a long time ago from

2046
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: Belichick the way back in the day. And it's a

2047
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 1: point of difference, you know, Yeah, especially.

2048
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 2: For a team that doesn't have as much. They don't

2049
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 2: have the raw talent, so like you have to find other.

2050
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Defense, special teams. They got to dominate on that because

2051
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: they're never gonna be great on offense beside maybe a

2052
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: running back right or tight ends.

2053
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 2: And having the elite special teams plays into all that

2054
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: other stuff like elite defense, rushing attack, conservative offense like

2055
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 2: field goals, field position, all that ties into each other,

2056
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 2: and that's how they're able to kind of overperform and

2057
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 2: why they've been so good as an underdog but really

2058
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 2: fascinating game because Oregon it's like theirs. If they lose,

2059
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 2: this game resumes starts to get dicey because your best

2060
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 2: win is Penn State. All of a sudden and you

2061
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: have two losses I mean at Penn State's I'm gonna

2062
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: go to a bowl. You have two losses and you

2063
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:36,879
Speaker 2: still have Washington and USC on the schedule. So Oregon,

2064
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: I think is very high risk for missing the playoff.

2065
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Was pretty I was pretty dialed into USC Nebraska, like

2066
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: because USC goes to Oregon, right, I just once he

2067
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: broke his leg, I mean I gave that kid a

2068
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: lot of credit. I mean he was walking around on

2069
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: the sideline with a broken leg. I just assume like

2070
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 1: it was a bad like ankle roll or something. So

2071
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 1: he's but just USC was fourteen to six. Yeah, they

2072
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: probably off field goal and then they drive and score

2073
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: and then they get the two and then it's tied.

2074
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: They were in trouble.

2075
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they can't travel. I mean it's insane under Riley.

2076
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 1: Well tough in the Big Ten to travel and this

2077
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: is you know, Iowa Nebraska, Like you do have to

2078
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: have a tough, physical person. That's what were Oregons fit

2079
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 1: right in. Like we're top for physical right, so it's

2080
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: we're not. It doesn't quite look the same with USC.

2081
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 1: I can't imagine some of the former like Pete Carroll's

2082
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 1: guys watching their squad, like what is why aren't we

2083
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 1: more physical? How is this We're just a kind of

2084
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,600
Speaker 1: a running gun offense. It's just and this is the

2085
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley thing. I mean, this goes back to Oklahoma.

2086
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: I do believe philosophically, like why does Dan Lanning have

2087
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: physical teams? Well? Who the fuck did he learn under?

2088
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's like how you're taught and how you recruit.

2089
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,719
Speaker 1: Like I just think Lincoln in a perfect world would

2090
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 1: have like seven Mikhayle Lemons and a cool and obviously

2091
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 1: he would like a better quarterback and a good running back,

2092
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: but he cares about offense, like his defense. You go

2093
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma, They're off were incredible.

2094
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean it literally he has a heis and winner

2095
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 2: every year.

2096
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't that much different. I mean some of those

2097
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: Peak Baker teams, like offensively weren't that much different like

2098
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 1: man for man than like Joe Burrow's team. I mean,

2099
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: they had NFL studs at every position. You could argue

2100
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: they were obviously Burrow had better wide receivers, but they

2101
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 1: had tight ends the running backs. I mean it was

2102
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: like it was crazy. So I think the Lincoln thing,

2103
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: he is kind of what he is. I think he'd

2104
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: be much better suited for like the Big twelve, the

2105
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: way he wants to play.

2106
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that. And in regards to Oregon,

2107
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 2: I do think they're much more likely to get picked

2108
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: off at Washington in the finale than lose it home

2109
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 2: to USC. USC needs to get their backs back too, like,

2110
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 2: so they can run the ball. That's how Lincoln Riley

2111
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: offense always starts, and that's how they would have been

2112
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 2: able to run all over Nebraska if they were healthy

2113
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 2: in the backfield.

2114
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 1: But this offseason, whoever Texas Tech wants in the transfer

2115
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: portal the defensive line, USC should just offer more money

2116
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: and get those guys.

2117
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you mentioned Texas Tech because there's now

2118
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 2: there's been like some rumors out there that Riley might

2119
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 2: go to Texas Tech in the future.

2120
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: What would happened, Joey McGuire, I don't be out.

2121
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I will say for Riley he would

2122
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,719
Speaker 2: fit there. I just could have just been message board nonsense.

2123
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: I was just reading no. But is Joey McGuire is

2124
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: that like, is Joey McGuire not as good as Lincoln

2125
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 1: Riley in twenty twenty five? Because there are a big

2126
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: difference between the two. I don't know enough about Joey McGuire.

2127
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he's I think he is a better coach,

2128
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 2: like now mg McGuire's had, like I mean, he has

2129
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 2: the roster that just like can't lose this year, there's

2130
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: been some questions in Lovelock about him. Now he made

2131
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: two Outstanding Coordinator highers, so he's got good coordinators this

2132
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 2: year too.

2133
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: Was my formerly is that kind of like Hugh Freezy, right,

2134
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: like a high school guy worked his way up.

2135
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: But I will say Riley, but yeah, he would fit there.

2136
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 2: And then also in the Big twelve, you don't have

2137
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 2: to travel two time zones. Now, further you travel from

2138
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 2: Lubbock would be the Utah and then West Virginia. So

2139
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 2: you're just going from central to eastern. And obviously his

2140
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 2: teams just can't travel two time zones.

2141
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of Kansas, Kansas States, Iowa.

2142
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 2: It's a little way easier and it's more finesse. It's

2143
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 2: more of a finesse conference. Although with Texas Tech if

2144
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 2: you want to, if you haven't watched Texas Tech this year,

2145
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: I do think that they're a legit They're a legit

2146
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 2: big twelve team that can make a run.

2147
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: So you like them this weekends, bou I do.

2148
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: The number is kind of rich, but at ten or better,

2149
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 2: that's the that's the side of it. I mean this

2150
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 2: BYU team has been super fortunate. I think the difference

2151
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 2: in this game will be Texas Tech defensive line. Like

2152
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 2: the Texas Tech defensive line is like I'm taking the

2153
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech defensive line over Georgia's by far, Alabama's by

2154
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: far this year. Those teams they don't have your typical

2155
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 2: Georgia and Alabama defensive lines. Texas Tech has your typical

2156
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 2: top five team defensive line and they can dominate a game.

2157
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 2: And BYU has been very, very fortunate. I mean against

2158
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 2: Utah Utah, they out gained them one hundred and fift yards.

2159
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 2: They kept going down to the red zone and turning

2160
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 2: it over on downs. Against Arizona they were down ten

2161
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 2: late one double overtime, got unfortunate fumble against Iowa State

2162
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 2: was fired nothing turnover vanas They're about to get blown

2163
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 2: out of that game. Little smokeing meres with BA team

2164
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 2: tough place to play. Barren Morton's back at quarterback for

2165
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 2: Tech so yeah, I think Tech gets it done, but

2166
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 2: it's not a discount. The last one I'll mention quickly,

2167
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 2: Cardinals in the NFL. I do have to get a

2168
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 2: word in for the Carlos. I think they're the most

2169
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 2: underrated team in the NFL right now. I had them

2170
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,759
Speaker 2: against the Cowboys. I'm gonna keep betting them. Their defense

2171
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 2: is legit, and they went into Dallas completely shut them down.

2172
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 2: They're now healthy with Garret Williams, will Johnson at corner.

2173
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan, their first round draft pick, made his debut.

2174
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 2: He looked fantastic. They're perfectly designed to shut down the

2175
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 2: Seattle offense, which is excellent, which is arguably the best

2176
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Right now. Darnald is shredding the blitz.

2177
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 2: The Cardinals don't blitz. He's shredding off play action. They

2178
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: go heavy play action. JSN has been incredible. The Cardinals

2179
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:54,720
Speaker 2: are built to stop it. They'll go through three high

2180
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 2: safety looks. They don't allow any explosive place. Think about

2181
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: the first meeting. The Cardinals held them the twenty points.

2182
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 2: No one didn't play. Johnson didn't play, Williams did. Their

2183
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 2: whole secondary was out. They did the best job of

2184
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: any team this year on Seattle. I think they can

2185
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 2: keep that offense in check enough, and the Cardinals offense,

2186
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 2: you can't argue this is better with Persett, and Murray

2187
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 2: has been dreadful against Seattle. McDonald owns him. I mean,

2188
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 2: in three meetings he has fourteen sacks and six interceptions

2189
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 2: over the past two years, six yards per attempt. He's

2190
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: been dreadful. Persett lowest turnover worthy throw rate of any

2191
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 2: quarterback this year. He's not taking sacks, he's not taking

2192
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 2: the killer negative places, and the whole offense looks better

2193
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 2: Harrison's involved, They're using Plache Moore and like their run

2194
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 2: games even better. Even though the don't want to be backs,

2195
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: so I think the Cardinals will be fisy. This is

2196
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 2: still a team that could easily be six and two.

2197
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: They haven't lost to anybody by more than four all year.

2198
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 2: I like them six and a half. Wait to see

2199
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 2: if the seven pops, if it's a seven comes, which

2200
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 2: I think it probably will at some point. Even better,

2201
01:51:58,560 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 2: I think that game's close. I think it's a good

2202
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 2: man for the Cardinals. I think it'll be a really

2203
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 2: competitive game.

2204
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: You know, jumped off the screen that Monday night game

2205
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 1: with Josh Schweat, It's like, God, no wonder how he's

2206
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: been trying to search him for pass freshman, that guy

2207
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: will looked like TJ. Watter or something coming off the edge.

2208
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can, especially now Nolan gives them juice, like

2209
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 2: they can get pressure that off the blitz and they

2210
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 2: make teams work down the field. And you saw it

2211
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 2: in Dallas, Like that's a Dallas offense that was shredding

2212
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 2: everyone at home for years and they didn't have an

2213
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 2: offensive touchdown until the fourth quarter?

2214
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: Was it? Walter Nolan one of the guys when Jimbo Fisher,

2215
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: when Nil first started, they gave like all that money

2216
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: to a bunch of guys and he was one of

2217
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: the big money guys at A and M.

2218
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 2: And then he went to Ole Miss and dominated. I

2219
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:48,879
Speaker 2: mean he was dominated. I'm dominating every week for that defense.

2220
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 2: No one could block him. And last week he had

2221
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: what a sack, three tackles, two battered passes, two tackles

2222
01:52:55,600 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: for loss in his first start again in Dallas.

2223
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Well, a defensive line is unstoppable. If you have good

2224
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: edge pressure and then a dominant interior guy, there's no

2225
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: way to you know, a lot of teams have one

2226
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: or the other. And this is where Philly, like last year,

2227
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 1: they had both. They had good edge pressure and they

2228
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 1: had the dominant inside pass rusher. So when you are

2229
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: dropping back on third and eight, and it's like I

2230
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 1: got a defensive tackle that can smoke a guard or

2231
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 1: a center, and then I got edge guys that can

2232
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: get off the edge, and I don't have to blitz.

2233
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble, right And.

2234
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 2: That's where he that's I mean, I really think it

2235
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 2: does look like Ernest Jones is back in practice for Seattle,

2236
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 2: which is big because they don't have linebacker depth. But

2237
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: that's why Seattle is a legit I think Seattle's a

2238
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:42,600
Speaker 2: legitimate Super Bowl contender. I know you've been on board

2239
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 2: as long as.

2240
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: Any of five to five to one to win the division.

2241
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: And like they donald playing like this and like Kubiak

2242
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 2: and this offense, they they're they're unique too, Like they

2243
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 2: go heavy. They can't really run the ball efficiently, but

2244
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They use that to set up play

2245
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: action and teams are taking the bay and they're like

2246
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,719
Speaker 2: and then there it's JSN is unguardable. Now you're adding

2247
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 2: Shaheed is another deep shot he saw Horton. You know,

2248
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 2: these tight ends are all good and donald is just

2249
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 2: has full command of this offense. But it's a lot

2250
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 2: of it is easy button stuff like off the play

2251
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 2: action there are guys running wide open. But the other

2252
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: like you're marrying that with the defense, which is one

2253
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 2: of the best in the NFL at getting pressure without blitzing.

2254
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 2: And if you can do that, it gives you so

2255
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 2: much more flexibility. And like you got guys like Leonard Williams,

2256
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Iron Murphy, DeMarcus Lawrence that can get after the passer

2257
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 2: without blitzing. And then this secondary and then you're gonna

2258
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 2: have McDonald call in the defense confusing opposing quarterbacks. But

2259
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 2: they they have it all. And I do think that

2260
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 2: like if I had to take one team right now,

2261
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 2: would still be the Packers. But the gap, there's no

2262
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: truly like this team is gonna run through the NFC.

2263
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 2: And this is another reason and why every game in

2264
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 2: the NFC is so important. We talk about that Eagles

2265
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 2: Packers game. If the Packers don't win the division, depending

2266
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 2: on how things shake out, like you could be on

2267
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 2: the road against Seattle or the Rams in the first

2268
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: week in the first in wild card weekend.

2269
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 1: You're a dog Week one in the playoffs.

2270
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 2: Like that's miserable anybody if you get a one CD

2271
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 2: a buy and then a home game and in Lambeau.

2272
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: But like this is a different NFC than years past,

2273
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: like on the road at Seattle or or the Rams

2274
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 2: this year. I mean, those are two teams that could

2275
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 2: easily when the commons the NFC is it's gonna be

2276
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 2: a heavyweight fight till the end.

2277
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: Totally okay, Stucky, Let's uh, let's enjoy the week, appreciate

2278
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 1: your time and talk to you soonbody absolutely going

2279
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 2: The volume.