WEBVTT - Can We Forgive Millionaire US Open Hat Snatcher?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is September the second, and the

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<v Speaker 1>hat snatcher has apologized. Is that enough? Apparently to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, that's not enough and think he should

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<v Speaker 1>suffer much much more. And with that, welcome to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Amy and TJ Romes. This story really really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really took off because it looks bad. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>really bad. There's a tennis superstar handing a hat to

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, a fan, a little fan, and a grown

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<v Speaker 1>man snatches it. It looked awful.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is this was caught on a live broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was nothing that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither one of them knew they were on camera, so

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<v Speaker 2>what happened was real. It happened in real time, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can slow it down and watch it happen. The

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<v Speaker 2>tennis star Camille Maijak was getting inundated with fans. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was very excited, and so he was handing a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff out. But you can clearly see he is

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<v Speaker 2>handing the hat off his head to this seeming like

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<v Speaker 2>nine ten year old kid and you can just see

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<v Speaker 2>him excitedly reaching for it as a grown ass man

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<v Speaker 2>literally comes in from the side, swoops in and just

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<v Speaker 2>takes the hat, and then you can see the kid

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<v Speaker 2>whose jaw literally drops and says, wait, I forget yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I have his actual quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you what this kid actually say to

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<v Speaker 1>the man who just took and the man he turns

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<v Speaker 1>out it's forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty two years two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>We see the kid turns to the grown man and

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<v Speaker 1>almost exclaim like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the kid says, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what that brock was a little boy's name,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what he said, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>So you imagine this happened. This is live again, no editing.

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<v Speaker 1>So this happened last Thursday at the US Open. We

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<v Speaker 1>know it's hot right now and going on, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big, big, big part of the US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the thing I say, Robes, I love

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<v Speaker 1>most about the US Open that first week is you

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<v Speaker 1>have so much access to the side court. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get up close and personal with a lot of the athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>But you see them have these gaggles almost with these

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<v Speaker 1>kids that they hold who have these big tennis balls

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<v Speaker 1>or a hat or something, trying to get an autograph.

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<v Speaker 1>And these tennis stars take the time to do it Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been to the US Open and seen Serena

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<v Speaker 1>Williams signing stuff, walking right by her as she's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited as anything. You know what I did. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for the kids. It's for no matter how excited

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<v Speaker 1>you are, So start with that with this guy. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is he even competing with a child or an audience?

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<v Speaker 3>It looks terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when we find out who this guy is,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course, what happens is this video goes up,

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<v Speaker 2>people take note of it. They start slowing it down

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<v Speaker 2>frame by frame. They find out who this guy is,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out his name is Peter Shazak.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Polish millionaire CEO. He owns a paving company, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was excited that a fellow Polish tennis star had won.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was swept up in the excitement. His family

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<v Speaker 2>was with him, his wife was with him, and he

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<v Speaker 2>says his two sons were with him as well. But God,

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<v Speaker 2>even as a father, I feel like that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>even worse.

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<v Speaker 3>It's maybe if he was a single guy, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a father and he still stole from someone else's child.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where I will step in as and I

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<v Speaker 1>think some parents and you will too, the things we

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<v Speaker 1>have done and try to go get for our.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids at the expense of someone else's child.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not saying that, but to see him in there

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<v Speaker 1>clamoring for something for his kid, maybe I could buy

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<v Speaker 1>that part of it. And again, folks, we are not

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<v Speaker 1>at any way editorializing this video. It is unmistakable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you haven't seen it, please go watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so it's this is not an interpretation of the video.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened happened. Again, he's there, and so we have

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<v Speaker 1>the answer for why he's there. The video now goes

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere and again rose after he snatches the hat, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even think he acknowledges the boy next to him. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he turns and hands the hat to I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>his wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he stuffed it in a back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the woman was holding the bag.

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<v Speaker 3>He put it in a bag, immediately goes in.

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<v Speaker 2>The kid is on the video literally looking at him

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<v Speaker 2>like what have you done?

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<v Speaker 3>Like why can't I get my hat back?

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<v Speaker 2>And the man completely ignores the kid And maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see him. I have a hard time believing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But fine, he doesn't even acknowledge the kid to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where it's almost apparent he knows the kid is upset,

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't want to turn around and look at

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<v Speaker 2>the kid. He doesn't want to acknowledge the pain he's

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<v Speaker 2>just caused, so he keeps his back turned to the

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<v Speaker 2>kid the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the kid is a door. And what makes it worse,

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<v Speaker 1>the kid is adorable, like he is the perfect tennis fan.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like ten years old. They forgot name. His name

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<v Speaker 1>was Brock, that's perfect. But he had this long, shaggy

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blonde hair, right, yes, he was just perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>like how are you up? But he reacted the way

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<v Speaker 1>all of us did, like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>So genuinely it was and he was like did that

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<v Speaker 2>just actually happens?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought?

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<v Speaker 2>And you could see that was the energy and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that kid was putting out was like what the hell?

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<v Speaker 3>How did this man just do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So to all of this, so this is the drama,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the situation, this is the video that so

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<v Speaker 1>many have seen and robes it actually got worse. So

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<v Speaker 1>he goes viral with the video, people figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>he is, and then he goes even more viral after

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<v Speaker 1>he I said that in air quotes puts out a

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<v Speaker 1>statement in response to how viral he has gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I actually want to be fully transparent here

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<v Speaker 2>because when we get ready in the morning for morning run,

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<v Speaker 2>we each take different stories. This was my story, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching Obviously I watched the video, but then

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching news reports, and that's where I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that this CEO, millionaire Peter Shazaik, put out a statement

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<v Speaker 2>and the news anchors were just aghast. They were editorializing

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that most news anchors don't, but just saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a hard time reading this, but guys, take

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<v Speaker 2>a listen to what this man put out in a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was everywhere and everyone was reacting to this

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<v Speaker 2>statement that was allegedly written by the man who stole

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<v Speaker 2>the hat. It reads, yes I took it, Yes I

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<v Speaker 2>did it quickly. But as I've always said, life is

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<v Speaker 2>first come, first served. I understand that some people might

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<v Speaker 2>not like it, but please, let's not make a global

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<v Speaker 2>scandal out of the hat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a hat. If you were faster, you would

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<v Speaker 3>have it, which is just the most awful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it goes on to basically say, if you

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<v Speaker 2>keep complaining about me and my company, because he's recognizing,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least acknowledging in this statement that people have

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<v Speaker 2>now found out who he works for, that he's a

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<v Speaker 2>CEO of this company. Basically, I will pursue legal action

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<v Speaker 2>against you if you continue to say terrible things about me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the news anchor was saying, hey, and this

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<v Speaker 2>was all in Polish. It's been translated. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>best translation. But my goodness, how could somebody say this

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<v Speaker 2>after they've done what they've not? People were just outraged.

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<v Speaker 2>So then that created a whole other heap of hate.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had put this in Morning Run and you're like, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look like he actually said the statement. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what, So it goes to show and I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to point this out. It's always whatever is reported,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the salacious, horrific thing that he was reported

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<v Speaker 2>to have said. That's everywhere everywhere. I did not see

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere that had taken it down or had said we

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<v Speaker 2>put this up an error. It turns out he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>make this statement. We actually don't know where this statement came,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that, And I actually had to do a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive to find anyone who even briefly acknowledged that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a false statement potentially put out, or that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't know where this statement.

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<v Speaker 3>The retraction is never there. The amount of press you

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<v Speaker 3>get for the wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Information is ginormous, and then there's almost no attention given

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<v Speaker 2>at all to the false nature of that statement. So

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out he didn't actually put that out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you read it, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as you read it, and that this has

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<v Speaker 1>happened a couple of times. It's something recently. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the incident, but something like this happened where somebody reacted.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a statement that went around that was just

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<v Speaker 1>it was fake. It's fault. But it gets going, and

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<v Speaker 1>so so much negativity, so much hate has gone this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's way, and so much of it that we have

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<v Speaker 1>read is specifically based on comments they think he made

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<v Speaker 1>that he actually didn't make. And just it has to

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<v Speaker 1>please everybody. Take a beat. Please before you condemn somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell someone that they need to lose their job, lose

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<v Speaker 1>their way of life, their company needs to fold. He

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<v Speaker 1>made a mistake. We're not defending that, but Robes, this

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<v Speaker 1>is another prime example of how dangerous this is. And

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<v Speaker 1>you damn right, this is very personal to us because

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<v Speaker 1>a lie was told, it got going and there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>you can do to stop it, and it cost us

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<v Speaker 1>careers that we had. Don't know what it might end

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<v Speaker 1>up costing this guy, but we have seen all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of hate going his way, and they specifically say it's

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<v Speaker 1>based on what he said in that statement, that statement

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<v Speaker 1>that he actually didn't say, what the what are we

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>It's gutting because you can, you can obviously still feel

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<v Speaker 2>upset by what you saw by this man's actions, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>say what he did was wrong. And I believe to

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<v Speaker 2>think that this false statement that was said as if

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<v Speaker 2>he said it, and then the other layer, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>other round of hate that came his way because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine, once someone says you said something, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you said it or not. And to your point, TJ,

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<v Speaker 2>it is personal. Once people say a picture represents something

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<v Speaker 2>that it doesn't, you can't untell that story. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>so difficult when every day people will bring back up

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<v Speaker 2>something that actually was never true and you can never

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<v Speaker 2>fully combat it. So yes, on that level, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>for him because yes, he did something wrong, Yes he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to apologize, which we'll get into, and he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, are those people still humans who have an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to do better, be better, grow from this, and actually,

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<v Speaker 2>can we give people second chances? Can we give people

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<v Speaker 2>a beat to recognize where they made a mistake and

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<v Speaker 2>then do better. I just it's disheartening to me how

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<v Speaker 2>much we just always want a good guy and a

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy. We can't ever accept the fact that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>someone is made a bad choice but isn't a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't ever give people that I guess, that that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like just that grace.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no other word for it other than grace.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the thing always we judge other people by their

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<v Speaker 1>worst actions, and we judge ourselves by our best intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the way we can keep that balance. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I've learned this through therapists and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>people who have we've talked to over the years about projecting, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are we attacking this guy for a mistake? We like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can put we can heap everything on him because

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<v Speaker 1>we see what he screwed up, we see the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>he made, Well, how bad of a mistake have you

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<v Speaker 1>made this week last week in your family that we

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<v Speaker 1>all don't know about. He made an awful mistake. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not rose and I are not defending at all

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<v Speaker 1>what this dude did, but I'm also not defending the

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<v Speaker 1>response to it either. So this man, yes, he did

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<v Speaker 1>put out a statement, kind of a linky statement as

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and we'll let you hear word for word

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<v Speaker 1>what he said and how he apologized unequivocally for what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But also we want to continue to ask that question,

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<v Speaker 1>what punishment does this man deserve and what right do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to decide it.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ, where

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about the hat grab that went round

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<v Speaker 2>the world from Peter Shazik taking that hat that was

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<v Speaker 2>intended clearly for a ten year old boy next to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He has actually dealt with not only the backlash from

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<v Speaker 2>that action that he certainly needs to and has taken

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility for, but he is dealing with backlash for a

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<v Speaker 2>statement he never even made, where someone jumped in in

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<v Speaker 2>Polish to make it seem more legit, saying something outrageous

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<v Speaker 2>that he never actually said. So, if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 2>hearing what SHA's Eric actually said, what his true statement was,

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<v Speaker 2>We actually have it here for you, and this is legit.

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<v Speaker 2>This came from him directly, not from someone posing as him.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll piece this together because it's kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of long here. But he starts by saying, due to

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<v Speaker 1>the situation that occurred during Camille Myijack's eijacks match at

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open, I would like to sincerely apologize to

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<v Speaker 1>the injured boy, his family, all the fans, and the

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<v Speaker 1>player himself. I made a great mistake. In the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of emotion amidst the crowd celebration after his victory, I

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<v Speaker 1>was convinced the tennis player was offering his cap to

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<v Speaker 1>me for my sons, who had asked for an autograph earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>A mistaken belief made me instinctively reach out. Today, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I did something that looked like deliberately taking a

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<v Speaker 1>souvenir from a child. It wasn't my intention, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change the fact that I hurt the boy and

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed the fans. You buy that so far, so good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that was a really good apology. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a really good apology. I have to say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's embarrassing, it's humiliating to admit that you let

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<v Speaker 2>your own excitement and maybe it was for what you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted for your children to overtake logic, overtake just having

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of situational awareness. How many times do we

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<v Speaker 2>encounter and do I find myself all of us do

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<v Speaker 2>find ourselves not being situationally aware. We know what we want,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what we need, we know what maybe our

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<v Speaker 2>children want, and we're not thinking about other people's kids.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not thinking about the people around us. And all

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<v Speaker 2>of us have done that to some degree in a

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<v Speaker 2>crowd at some.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, and sometimes it just comes off as inconsiderate. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you step off in front of somebody when you getting

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<v Speaker 1>off an elevator, maybe you don't give a little gear.

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<v Speaker 2>Crowded streets, small whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Little things happen, and we are all unaware, and we

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<v Speaker 1>all make mistakes. He made it in front of cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>and we made it to the worst possible victim, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still a mistake, yes, And be.

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<v Speaker 2>That I do think that people, we all make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that so far, I really appreciate this

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<v Speaker 2>apology because unfortunately the statement that was attributed to him

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<v Speaker 2>earlier was so egregious. I just worry that that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only one people who are going to read. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>only one people are gonna see. People aren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>actually hear what he really did have to say, because sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>when you do take a beat and you don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>immediately respond, turns out people will respond for you and

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<v Speaker 2>you can't undo it. That's what's so scary about the

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<v Speaker 2>world we live in now.

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<v Speaker 1>But why can't we all we just assume, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what robes this is. Probably I should give

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<v Speaker 1>people a break. Why wouldn't they just believe what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, believe what they see. There's a statement just

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<v Speaker 1>running around, Babe.

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<v Speaker 3>I believed it, just babe.

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<v Speaker 2>I not only did I see it, but then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, let me go actually investigate. And I started

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<v Speaker 2>pulling up news reports and they were all repeating this

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<v Speaker 2>false statement.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, I fell for it. I fell for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So his statement, his actual statement goes on to say

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<v Speaker 2>the cap was given to the boy and an apology

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<v Speaker 2>to the family, meaning he returned the cap. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>I have at least partially repaired the harm. I also

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<v Speaker 2>want to make it clear, neither I, my wife, nor

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<v Speaker 2>my sons commented on this situation in any way social

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<v Speaker 2>media and on any other portal. We did not use

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<v Speaker 2>the services of any law.

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<v Speaker 3>Firm in this regard.

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<v Speaker 2>All alleged statements appearing online are not our own.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, would that trigger anyone to take something down? Know?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to read that? Who's going to see this one?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>This is because it's not sexy. Right Still, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a cool headline, it's not fun and funny. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't attack a guy for this. What do you attack

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<v Speaker 1>him for? Yes, he messed up? Please, I hope no one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've said it right.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not defending what he absolutely made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a mistake. But that's where we're we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We end up right having an indictment of the person's

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<v Speaker 1>character based on the moment that they have. So you

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<v Speaker 1>make a mistake, that means you are evil?

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<v Speaker 3>You are your mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't know, none of us.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us want to be our worst mistake, and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to be remembered from worse mistake, and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to never be able to move past

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<v Speaker 2>our worst mistake. So if you don't want that for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>My hope is that we can all extend that to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes on to say, my wife and I have

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<v Speaker 2>been involved in helping children and young athletes for years,

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<v Speaker 2>but this situation has shown me that one moment of

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<v Speaker 2>inattention can destroy years of work and support. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a painful, but a lesson in humility. It is painful,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lesson in humility is needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore, I will be even more actively involved in initiatives

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<v Speaker 2>supporting children and young people, and in actions against violence

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<v Speaker 2>and hate. I believe that only through actions can I

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild the lost trust. Once again, I apologize to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>I have disappointed. Please understand. Out of concern for my family,

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<v Speaker 2>I have decided to disable commenting on this post.

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<v Speaker 3>That was actually really smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours, sincerely, Peter Shazik.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's an apology, well done.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, is it not? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean he's taken full responsibility for it. But this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, this should be This should be a

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<v Speaker 1>template for apologies. One moment of inattention can destroy years

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<v Speaker 1>of work and support one moment. And he's right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that sucks. But how many CEOs, how many things have

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<v Speaker 1>we seen where companies are hurting? I guess Tesla is

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile situation for all kinds of reasons, but

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<v Speaker 1>just any moment that the ceo appears to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong, the whole company can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Walter no, And speaking of his company on Google,

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<v Speaker 2>the company has received so they've found out the company

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<v Speaker 2>he is ceo of the company now has plummeted to

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<v Speaker 2>just one point two stars. So you know you can

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<v Speaker 2>you can rate a company. It's a sick stars to

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<v Speaker 2>one star on Google review. His company is now at

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<v Speaker 2>one point two stars. One of the reviews. I'll read

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<v Speaker 2>it for you just to give you an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>what people are leaving in the review column. The ceo

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<v Speaker 2>of this company doesn't have any morals, stealing from children

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<v Speaker 2>and then defending himself in public. Don't ever do business

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<v Speaker 2>with this company.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on a falsehood. She is telling the world, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do business here this guy. She's trying to shut him down.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to just please caution, I just caution, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I caution you. Even if you hate what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>which I hate what he did, he apologized for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and why do we start with he must be evil

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<v Speaker 1>for why don't we start with, Okay, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>good guy who made a mistake versus he's a terrible guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just confirmed it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have moments of bad judgment, yes, And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're honest with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yourself, you know you have.

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<v Speaker 2>And there have been so many of those moments where

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<v Speaker 2>you are thanking God that no one else saw, that

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<v Speaker 2>no one else knew, that no one else was rolling

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<v Speaker 2>on you, that no one else was recording you.

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<v Speaker 3>With what you did or said or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've all been there, not to that extent. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that that is what we like. I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, and we all feel better about ourselves thinking

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<v Speaker 2>I would never do that. And see, that's what this

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<v Speaker 2>all comes down to. We watched that video and we

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<v Speaker 2>say I would never do that. He must be an asshole,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we feel better about ourselves. It really does

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<v Speaker 2>come back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, this is not something we have come up

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<v Speaker 1>with our own. These are things we have learned through lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>We have been taught through life, through experience, and through

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<v Speaker 1>yes therapy, And you know what we have throughout our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogues have access to a bunch of thought leaders and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who are trying to help people

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<v Speaker 1>get through these moments, and that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>they absolutely do talk to us about a lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're all working on it. We're trying to do better.

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<v Speaker 1>But I this is not an episode to defend now

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<v Speaker 1>the actions of Peter Shaseric, but this is one to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we are not defending as well the actions

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<v Speaker 1>of so many people and how they've reacted to something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think it's just another lesson in how

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<v Speaker 2>we view how we receive news, whether it's through TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>or accredited news stations who get it wrong sometimes who

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<v Speaker 2>fall for things. I fell for it this morning as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But just to view what you read, to view what

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<v Speaker 2>you hear with a little touch of skepticism, just keep

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<v Speaker 2>a space open for the fact that you might not

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<v Speaker 2>have all the facts, and then just allow yourself that

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<v Speaker 2>space for consideration. And I think that's just a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of how hopefully we can all do better in

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<v Speaker 2>getting information and then processing that information. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a tough thing to watch. I feel like there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many lessons in it. And look, I hope that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The little boy was great. He got celebrated by his

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<v Speaker 2>tennis star. He got a new hat, he got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of extra merch, he got a big photo op.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually created a really special moment, like this terrible

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<v Speaker 2>thing that happened actually created a really special moment for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all online as well. So look, it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feels like there was a happy ending, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>and if everyone can grow and learn from it, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>A bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that kid is having a good time at school.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Yeah, he's a hero of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>He's having a good time. All right. Well, we always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate Ja haying with us for my dear partner, Aby

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<v Speaker 1>Robot on t J. Holmes. We'll see y'allso