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Speaker 1: Radio. Radio Radio's a Myth and Bullshit a radio phonic

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Speaker 1: novella Radio hosted by Malama Loka Morres. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Local Radio. Welcome back to Brown Girl. Our this is

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Speaker 1: THEOS and this is my last look at a radio

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Speaker 1: is a podcast archiving the brilliance and legacies of women

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Speaker 1: and fems of color, and this is welcome. I cannot

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Speaker 1: every time we record. I'm honestly just beside myself with

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Speaker 1: with how many we've done at this point. Listen for

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Speaker 1: the last year I wrote personally as a goal that

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Speaker 1: Local thought I would have ten episodes, and look at it.

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Speaker 1: We are double look at us now. I am very

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be here today, so am I. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, Like I was just thinking that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've started other projects in the past, Like I think

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Speaker 1: all of us have lots of ideas we want to

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Speaker 1: do different projects. We might get something started, but for

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Speaker 1: me to actually like commit to something like this that

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Speaker 1: is like independent. We're not really getting paid for it.

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Speaker 1: It's not mandatory, it's not school, it's not work. But

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Speaker 1: we have like stuck it out and we're doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with us. Yeah, you know, I really

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Speaker 1: think it when you have a partner to hold the

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Speaker 1: both of you accountable. Oh yeah, and be like, bitch,

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Speaker 1: you said you were going to do this exactly, so

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Speaker 1: let's get it date, let's get it done. And then also,

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Speaker 1: of course our local their support. Honestly, like, the amount

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Speaker 1: of love that we get from our listeners is a

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Speaker 1: huge motivating factor. I completely agree that the ms, the

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Speaker 1: common the replies to our story is everything everything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys ride for us, You ride for us so much.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we have so many updates, so let's get started.

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Speaker 1: So we want to congratulate our dear friend for her

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Speaker 1: book release, as they all remember for Cano, so we

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Speaker 1: did an interview with her. So since then she had

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Speaker 1: her book release party for yes, and oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the book release, like, Yessica blew that ship out of

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Speaker 1: the water, Like, I don't know the last time a

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Speaker 1: book of poetry had a book release that was so

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Speaker 1: fucking lit and turned up and it was a it

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Speaker 1: was a poetry party, Yessica, I like dubbed her officially

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Speaker 1: the high Priestess of poetry, Like she really summoned all

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Speaker 1: these badass bitches to come out to her event. She

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Speaker 1: had all these amazing poets, like legendary poems. It was

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Speaker 1: for me. People got to a full house, full house,

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Speaker 1: people got turned away, like you said, and it was

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Speaker 1: so fun and we laughed, we cried, we were just moved.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. Like Cardian b was playing. It was

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Speaker 1: everything that you could hope for. I was really happy

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Speaker 1: for her, me too, and her beautiful Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm a listener, A follower had made for her right.

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Speaker 1: So it was just such a beautiful night of love

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Speaker 1: and good energy and feelings and fierceness. At the same time.

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Speaker 1: We felt lots of feelings. We were feeling the field.

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Speaker 1: Mama was there looking like a beautiful lemon. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I loved my fashion Nova outfit.

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Speaker 1: When I saw it, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Jackie from that seventy show is a millennial chicano An.

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Speaker 1: I fucking love it. I'm so into it because I

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Speaker 1: I'm really into it. I love it. Mama rocks the

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Speaker 1: looking like a beautiful lemon um and then you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in addition, she's also having a second book

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Speaker 1: release because she's extra, we are extra and we're hosting it.

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Speaker 1: like even we didn't ask for it, it just happened,

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Speaker 1: And Gothic on Cheeseman. There were several that they were

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Speaker 1: like Latino X like fem podcast. Yeah, it's like twelve

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Speaker 1: out to Zuli ros Yes, Rose, I can never say anything.

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Speaker 1: Also known as the Crunchhaw Proletarium. Yes, um, she actually

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Speaker 1: love Zuli. She's so amazing. She's a Libra. She did

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Speaker 1: there's like personal stories, right being from l A for example,

426
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: So like in my family, like my grandmother when she

427
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: came to the United States, she was sixteen, and almost

428
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: right away she was working. She was working, like raising

429
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: kids and working as a nanny, as a domestic worker

430
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: on the West Side in homes in Beverly Hills. She

431
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: was working for the families of actors and actresses, which

432
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: that's not uncommon. A lot of Latinos are working for

433
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: people in media, people in the industry. It's like almost

434
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: all of us probably know somebody who works like for

435
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: a family. It's like Latinos are not in the media,

436
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: but they're in the background. Yes, they're they're raising these

437
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: families while these white people get to going building empire.

438
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: But they're the ones raising the families. So they're very

439
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: much moving the pieces in the family life. Oh yeah,

440
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And like that's why, like Donald Trump talking

441
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: about how his kids are such a good reflection of him,

442
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: because he did such a great job raising them. He

443
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: didn't raise those kids, and neither did their mothers. Those

444
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: kids were most likely raised by by women of color,

445
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: immigrant women of color. And so my grandmother and working

446
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: in these homes you know that were like Hollywood homes,

447
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: she you know, and like grandmothers have this way of

448
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: kind of like telling stories of intense trauma, but just

449
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: kind of like mumbled under their breath, just as an aside,

450
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, they're not by the way, by the way.

451
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: And then this happened to me. I'm like, what the fuck?

452
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: But throughout my life, my grandmother has sprinkled in just

453
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: like little tidbits here and there of this boss, this employer,

454
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: this man who works in Hollywood, touching her inappropriately and

455
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: her having to swat his hand off of her, and

456
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: finally she elbows him in the crotch because he won't

457
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: stop massaging her shoulders, or another their employer getting really

458
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: jealous that she was going to go out to dinner

459
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: with somebody and he hosed her down in the front

460
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: yard and just like all these are like, I think

461
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: that she had got hit a couple of different times. Um.

462
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: I have a family friend that I grew up with.

463
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: This girl and her mother is from Mexico City and

464
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: her mother was employed by the Hilton Harrison Nikki's family

465
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: and her situation. The cheeseman is that the mean one

466
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: was Mrs Hilton because homegirl, my friend's mom was like

467
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: young early twenties, is beautiful Mexicana, brown skin, curly hair,

468
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman, and she was she this lady did

469
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: not like her and was not very nice to her.

470
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: So we have Hella like, if you want to know

471
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: about Hollywood families, I suggest find out who works for them,

472
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: because we're going to have the tea. Well, this is

473
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: also a good a good transition into a topic that

474
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about, Mama, and I was about the

475
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: show Devious Maids, And you'll remember when this came out.

476
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: Even is like one of the creators, producers, whatever and um,

477
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: there was a lot of controversy because folks were upset

478
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: that there was going to be a show created about mates,

479
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: like right, so another trope, right, another stereotype that were

480
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: more blah blah blah all this stuff. And there's so

481
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: many nuances in a lot of different ways that you

482
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: can look at this, but we're not going to talk

483
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: about that right now. What we're going to talk about

484
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: how in the show, Like if you've seen, I've watched

485
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: a few seasons. I like to be critical and see

486
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: what's out there. So I've watched a few of the

487
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: seasons and I think that whatever opinion you may have,

488
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: it does show the sexual violence, the harassments that the

489
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: white men that are the rich ones that are powerful,

490
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: that have these mansions in Beverly Hills, and their wives

491
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: also mistreating the quote made the sexy latinas in the

492
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: sexy made outfits, uniforms, whatever, and like this type of

493
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: voyeurism of like the the men watching while they're like

494
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: dusting and cleaning or even like filming them and they

495
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: don't know, right, So these different things are portrayed and

496
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: listening to you talk about your grandma Natcha and the

497
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: other women that you've heard experience the other women that

498
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: women that have experienced it. I was also thinking about

499
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the show and how it does bring that to light

500
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: in some way, you know, and of course not in

501
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the same way. It's like, definitely it's sucking TV exactly,

502
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, so it's definitely trivialized in a way

503
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: or maybe downplayed, but it is there, right so, and

504
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I think that that's one way that we can even

505
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: see the show and like that it kind of it

506
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: gave power to that in a way, power that narrative exactly,

507
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: or it kind of gave light to that narrative exactly.

508
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: Because I think, right this, and we were talking about this,

509
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: why is there such this cultural Why culturally do we

510
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: have the existence of like the idea of like the

511
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: sexy made costume, the sexy French maid, right when we

512
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: know that, like when we're talking about domestic help of

513
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: a large percentage of those women are going to be

514
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: like older women, you know, undocumented women like senoras, a

515
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: lot of times, women of color who have families, and

516
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: that's like really difficult physical labor. There's really nothing sexy

517
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: about it. But where has that sexualization come from? Right?

518
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: We know that, like there's a lot of moheads who

519
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: work as janitors who have organized against the prevalence of

520
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: rape of janitors on the night shift. Right, there is

521
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: a historical linkage between women working, women cleaning, women working

522
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: in homes and being sexually assaulted. Right, So we see

523
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: this cultural phenomenon of sexualizing the maid. Well, that's coming

524
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: from a history of violence, sexual violence towards the main

525
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: and like colonial violence as well, if we're talking about

526
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: US slavery as well. Absolutely that sexual assaul sexual assault

527
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: was a mechanism, a driving mechanism of enslavement, you know,

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00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm positive that they're probably is also

529
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: a history of if we talk about like Spanish Portuguese

530
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: colonization of native people and forcing Native peoples into these

531
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: roles and the sexual violence perpetrated against Native peoples who

532
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: are now working in homes of Spaniards, of colonizers of Europeans.

533
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: It makes me think of this one scene in Caramelo

534
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: Um by Santras, which is kind of a subtle scene,

535
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: but this conversation just kind of like brings me to it.

536
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: And you know, there's this discussion of you know, Celia,

537
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: her grandmother in Mexico City, right when she was a

538
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: young girl, she was a teenager, and she was kind

539
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: of hired out to this wealthy Mexican or this middle

540
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: class Mexican family who lived in Mexico City. And so

541
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: the young woman kind of lives like in the servants quarters,

542
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: like in the pantry, and the young man of the family, um,

543
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, who's very attractive. He starts sneaking into her

544
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: room at night and he starts sleeping with her, right,

545
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: and so it's supposed to be a love story, right

546
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: about how she, this poor girl you know from the Gumbo,

547
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: ends up marrying this this young man who's well er

548
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: off because she started working for his family. And there's

549
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: a line in there about how his parents, you know,

550
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: they kind of knew what was going on, or they

551
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: would kind of catch him seeking into her room, but

552
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: they wouldn't say anything to him. And there's a line

553
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: in Catemello that says, you know, it's kind of just

554
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: assumed that he has a right to the to the

555
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: girl who works in the house, right, And that's that

556
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: dynamic again that the woman working in the home as

557
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: a servant, as a domestic worker, that her body is

558
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: also like up for consumption, you know, right, the men

559
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: have access to it exactly, a right to her, right,

560
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: And you know, we can see this, like there's this

561
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: like fascination, this fetization of like sexual assault in the media,

562
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: like in in film and TV shows, Like there's so

563
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: like as as you're speaking and as you're you're talking

564
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: about Garmelo, thinking of all these scenes of like this

565
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: actually happening right of them, this man in the house

566
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: sexually assaulting a domestic worker. Right, we've seen this in

567
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: TV shows, We've seen this in movies. Well, where does

568
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: that come from? Exactly exactly there's that historical route and

569
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: it's also just so wild because you can think about

570
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the fact that we've talked about this before on the podcast,

571
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: is that the most dangerous place for you as a

572
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: woman is probably you know, in your own home, because

573
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the person most likely to hurt you, to harm you,

574
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: to abuse you is someone that you know. It's a

575
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: family member, it's a friend, it's someone you're in a

576
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: relationship with. So home itself can be a very dangerous place.

577
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: But but but work can also be a dangerous place,

578
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 1: right because women get harassed and assaulted at work all

579
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: the time. So now with like at home care attendants, nanny's, maidsgivers.

580
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: Not only is your home potentially dangerous, you don't know

581
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: what you're dealing with. At home work is also dangerous,

582
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: but you literally work in someone else's home, right, you know,

583
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: and the levels right. And then if you also live

584
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: for you work, right, there are many housekeepers nannies that

585
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: live on site. So then what you don't do you

586
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: have a safe home? No where is your safe space,

587
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: your safe place as a woman of color, as a

588
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: low income woman of color, quite possibly undocumented, you know.

589
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of very wealthy people have like

590
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: still like servants quarters essentially, and their people live on

591
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: the property and they're there constantly, so that means that

592
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: they have access to them, you know. So yeah, there's

593
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: just so much like that goes into it. Um And

594
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I really wonder if we will ever hear about those

595
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: stories and those women, because I guarantee they're there. I

596
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: know that they're to be They've always been there. Yes,

597
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: And we know the women of color face sexual violence

598
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: at a higher rate than white women, Do we know

599
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: that statistically statistically? Yes? Absolutely, a especially Native women and

600
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Black women, very very high rates of sexual violence. UM.

601
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: And less access to help and to resources, which is

602
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: just that double bind, you know. Yeah, and like on

603
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: a different note, but of course still related to this

604
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: whole you know hashtag me too. Like I just want

605
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: to say, like, for any survivor that felt like they

606
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: didn't want to share their story, that's completely okay. Nobody

607
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: is entitled to that. I know me on a personal level, like,

608
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: I really wanted to engage in the me too hashtag,

609
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: but anytime I went to write something, I couldn't, Like

610
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: nothing could would come out of me, and I felt

611
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: like I can't do this. This is just too much,

612
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, if you were feeling that way,

613
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: that's completely valid, and I hope you took care of yourself. Yeah.

614
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of social pressure to

615
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: publicly respond to every single new wave, every new crash

616
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: of news, every new crisis. Listen, Tomorrow, there will be

617
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: another crisis, there will be another call to action. Every day,

618
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: there's going to be something different. It is literally a

619
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: never ending loop of ridiculousness. And I know that I

620
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: cannot respond to everything. I can't, it's impossible. I can't,

621
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: And so like, don't also, don't feel guilty or don't

622
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: feel that pressure that I have to perform a response

623
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: right now. Absolutely, yeah, And I think at some point

624
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: you could people kind of also expect you to write

625
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: something or to publicly say something, yeah, to have a take.

626
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: I know, even my mom asked me if I like

627
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: shared a me too story and I was like, no, right,

628
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I know I don't want to write. I don't want

629
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: to because then I'm like, okay, well which one? Yeah. No.

630
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: I also just I am so hesitant to put out

631
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: that type of information about myself on the internet on

632
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: a hashtag, which is each easily searchable. It's based because

633
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: hashtags are really great for, you know, connecting people and

634
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: ideas and connecting a conversation and getting a movement started.

635
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: But a hashtag is also sort of like a database

636
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: where you click on it and you see everybody who

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Speaker 1: has contributed. And do I necessarily want because we know

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Speaker 1: know about the four Chan and the Reddit. We know

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Speaker 1: knowing those people are out there and they're active, do

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Speaker 1: I necessarily want to put myself out there like that. No?

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, and you know what I think ultimately,

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Speaker 1: Like it's up to you. I know there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks that really connected and really felt empowered

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Speaker 1: through the hashtag. And if that's how it was for you,

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Speaker 1: more powered to you. If that's what you feel like

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Speaker 1: you needed to to heal or yeah, continue to heal

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Speaker 1: in your healing process, like that's amazing. Good for you.

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Speaker 1: To each their own at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: Like for survivors, it really is to each their own

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Speaker 1: what works for you. Yeah, alright, alright, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much again for listening. Locomotive. Yes, thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: We have some closing out business housekeeping that we need

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Speaker 1: to have some housekeeping UM. So as always social media,

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Speaker 1: follow us on I G. Twitter, Facebook, we're local radio

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Speaker 1: y'all to listen to is audio Boom. Audio Boom is

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Speaker 1: super great. It's free listening. UM. You can there's an

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Speaker 1: whatever you like more. Um, we'll be on both audio

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Speaker 1: stream us on multiple platforms at this time if you

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Speaker 1: where can they find us on Patreon. For our patreon,

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Speaker 1: we are just patreon dot com slash Local Underscore Radio.

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Speaker 1: So if you're interested in more content from us, because

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Speaker 1: not be at all on the regular twice monthly plos. Right,

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Speaker 1: So this is like it's almost like a whole different podcast.

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Speaker 1: When we think about how much we're gonna be putting

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Speaker 1: So we're super excited. We hope you'll like it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then finally, Um, we have a busy month ahead

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Speaker 1: of us, but we're super super excited it to be

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Speaker 1: participating in the first ever podcast Stero Fest, a Latin

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Speaker 1: X digital media experience. We're super excited. Yeah, and podcast

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Speaker 1: podcast Studio fest UM. It was actually created for the

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Speaker 1: purpose of amplifying Latin X voices of the podcast world

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Speaker 1: and as a space for the community to discuss the

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Speaker 1: visibility and invisibility of Latin X digital content creators. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, registration is now open. It's free. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be um Sunday November nine Atlas in downtown

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Speaker 1: the public. And you know, this is latin X digital

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Speaker 1: media experience. It's presented by mao UM And if you

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Speaker 1: want more information about boat Fest UM and Mala Domingo,

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Speaker 1: you can follow them on Instagram at podcasto Fest and

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Speaker 1: at Mala. Yeah, we're super excited. Sunday, November nineteen, we

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Speaker 1: will be there. We will have Merchant Die, We'll have

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Speaker 1: merch will be table label take pictures with that we

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Speaker 1: might be speaking on a panel. Yeah tbd, but just

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Speaker 1: come out, come out anyway. With November nineteen UM Downtown

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Speaker 1: l A, Come meet us. We end up meeting our

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Speaker 1: our listeners out in public, like we're out and about randomly, randomly.

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Speaker 1: It's always very very cute. It's so cute. So this

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Speaker 1: is like, if you're really into podcasts, I think this

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Speaker 1: is your events. This is your event because especially if

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Speaker 1: you follow the Latin Next podcast, because they will basically

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Speaker 1: all be there like everybody basically and well are flying

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Speaker 1: in one central location. Are people are flying in? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So come through, come through, come through, come through. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again for tuning in Locomotives. As always, we're

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Speaker 1: super grateful to be here and that you're listening. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for the love. This has been another of look

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Speaker 1: our Radio Are Radio Phonic novella, another installment of Brown

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