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Speaker 1: your Twitter account. Speaking of social media platforms, why have

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Speaker 1: I struggle with returning your tech much less trying to

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Speaker 1: All right, So why do you tell everybody what you're

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Speaker 1: doing here this week in Indie at the two thousand

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Speaker 1: And so one of the initiatives this week with the

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Speaker 1: great question. I don't remember. I just remember my focus

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Speaker 1: those drills. All right, we gotta action pack show today

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Speaker 1: for you, Chead Penny and here at the Convention Center

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Speaker 1: of twelve fifteen. Lead Bleacher Report draft writer Matt Miller

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Speaker 1: will be on set. Then Mike west Off, former Jets

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Speaker 1: But you're betting leadoff. I'm not gonna bury the lead here.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall want to instagram UH last night and thanked

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Speaker 1: From a personal perspective, I was surprised because talking with Brandon,

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Speaker 1: if the Jets go out and get a cornerback in

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Speaker 1: free agency. Maybe because now with all these releases, I

431
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: got some capitroom, got a little bit of money now,

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Speaker 1: so you look at like guys like Sewn Gilmour's out there,

433
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Speaker 1: a j boys out there, like there's some really good

434
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Speaker 1: young corners and and you know, trying to stay young

435
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: and athletic while not breaking the bank is a great

436
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Speaker 1: team building philosophy. So that's the direction they go. Those

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Speaker 1: those are players who can you know, they're not gonna

438
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Speaker 1: get that sixteen million year that Tremaine Johnson just got,

439
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: but they're they're good players who could be impacts. What

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Speaker 1: about the safety position, because keep on hearing about two names.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I heard somebody talk about today that they

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Speaker 1: got him a top their entire draft board, and then

443
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Speaker 1: uh Mali Cooker. Jamal Adams is one of the cleanest

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Speaker 1: prospects I can remember seeing, just because he's a great

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Speaker 1: player on the field, he's a leader. Everyone loves him

446
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 1: off the field. Like we're talking about with Reuben Foster.

447
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,239
Speaker 1: You're never gonna have to worry about if the kid

448
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: wants to come practice or not because he lives and

449
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: dies with ball. So that's great. Millie Cooker kind of

450
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: a one year wonder, but my goodness, his range and

451
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Speaker 1: ability to find the ball is special. And you know

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Speaker 1: he has seven interceptions this year. He's just flies all

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Speaker 1: over the field. So it's crazy. I never thought I

454
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Speaker 1: would ever compare guys to Eric Berry or Earl Thomas,

455
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Speaker 1: but that's what they remind me of because in Jamal

456
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Speaker 1: has coverage skills. He could play free safety. You know,

457
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Speaker 1: I've seen him play corner at times. Hookers you're more

458
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Speaker 1: traditional center field, they're gonna play over the top. But

459
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Speaker 1: because of the need there, and with Calvin Pryor, I

460
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's in the long term plans or not,

461
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Speaker 1: there's definitely either guy could fit into that team right now. Now,

462
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Speaker 1: how deep do you think this first round is? Because

463
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Speaker 1: on the surface, when I'm hearing from you and a

464
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Speaker 1: lot of people, is that you guys are excited about

465
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Speaker 1: the talent. And if you're looking at the Jets, they

466
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Speaker 1: got a number of holes to fill, and Mike mcangnic

467
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Speaker 1: is gonna address plenty of them through three agency, but

468
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Speaker 1: with you not maybe being a player away that could

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Speaker 1: you move back in this draft and get a get

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Speaker 1: a few players that are gonna be pat guys right away. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you always have to be open to trading back when

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Speaker 1: you're a bad team like you, you always have to

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Speaker 1: because you you know, like you said, we don't just

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Speaker 1: need one player, you need five or six. So speaking

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Speaker 1: on how the board falls, the difference is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there are more than six elite players in

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Speaker 1: this class, but at six because we expect some quarterback score,

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Speaker 1: like you could be looking at the second or third

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Speaker 1: best player overall, like kind of like a Lynn Williams

480
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Speaker 1: situation where no one expects a guy like that to fall,

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Speaker 1: and then you're sitting there and he's on the board.

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Speaker 1: You have to take him. So but but but I

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Speaker 1: don't think Jonathan Allen's coming here. He you know, he

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Speaker 1: might with the shoulder, yet he will not be the pick.

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Speaker 1: You're right, he might be on the board, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Myles Garrett's probably not gotta follow the pick number six

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Speaker 1: this year. Unfortunately. Tell us about Corey Davis from Western Michigan.

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Speaker 1: With he being on your radar for a while, and

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Speaker 1: why could he challenged maybe Mike Williams for being the

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Speaker 1: top wide receiver slept two years ago. Corey Davis at

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Speaker 1: Western Michigan. He's he made Daniel Braverman declared for the draft,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm watching the film and like,

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Speaker 1: the other guy is the one of the ship declared

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Speaker 1: for the draft. Ley He's a special talent. I actually

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Speaker 1: met Corey the other night. He's built like Tarrell Owens,

496
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Speaker 1: like he's just jacked, and he's a great kid. His

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Speaker 1: production over four years speaks for itself, and he was

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Speaker 1: one of the best receivers in college fool the last

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Speaker 1: four years. He's explosive, he's physical. If I had to nitpick,

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Speaker 1: I would say he drops the ball a little bit,

501
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Speaker 1: but I'm not worried about that because when he catches it,

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Speaker 1: he's he's pretty good with it. So he is a

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Speaker 1: different player. I think Mike Williams is a little more physical,

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Speaker 1: more of a jump ball type. Corey Davis is more

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Speaker 1: of your traditional yards after catch guy who does have

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Speaker 1: some size as well. They both him they're both top

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Speaker 1: ten players, I think, yeah, and again, unless the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: unless there's a run early on quarterbacks. Then, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see those guys go way off the board early.

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Speaker 1: If not Gosshi team like Philadelphia fourteen or fifteen, depending

511
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Speaker 1: on this coin toss, they might just get real lucky

512
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Speaker 1: and have a receiver on the board. There will there

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Speaker 1: be a run on quarterbacks early to be there always is,

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Speaker 1: And you look at the needs of teams. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Browns need one, Niners need one, Bears need one.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville they're prime, not gonna draft one early, but they

517
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Speaker 1: also need one. Tennessee could trade out of that spot

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Speaker 1: at number five. You guys could pick one, like there are.

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Speaker 1: There's so many teams early in the draft that need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. It's and it's such a premier position. Just

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Speaker 1: in my all my time covering and studying in the draft,

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Speaker 1: it stands to reasons someone's gonna fall in love with

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Speaker 1: one of these guys. But in in your overall big boy,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch one of them. Yeah, yeah, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at um the way you have it is. Trabinsky and

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Speaker 1: Kais are very tight in the late teens maybe, and

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Speaker 1: then Deshaun Wattson, you almost have a second. It looks

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Speaker 1: like you almost got a second. I probably will have

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Speaker 1: like an early round two grade on when it's all

530
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Speaker 1: said and done, and then Pat Mahomes, I love the

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Speaker 1: developmental tools, but gosh, you're gonna be patient getting him

532
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Speaker 1: on the field just unless he's completely changed his footwork

533
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Speaker 1: in the last three months, and maybe he has, but

534
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Speaker 1: he's gonna need a lot of work. So like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're going true you know, value true traits and

536
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Speaker 1: and scouting those guys, you know, Trobinsky Kaiser are probably

537
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Speaker 1: around fifteen sixteen overall all, but because of the needs,

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Speaker 1: they might go to three just because, if you know,

539
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Speaker 1: the Niners don't have a quarterback on the roster right now,

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Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to address the position somehow. Um,

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Speaker 1: your top overall prospect is Myles Garrett. Yeah, so let's

542
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Speaker 1: talking about Garrett a little bit. But you also like

543
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Speaker 1: an edge guy from Stanford, and give me the reasons

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Speaker 1: why you like him and is he prototypical for three

545
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: inn or gonna be he'd be the three four outside rushbacker. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Myles Garrett. It just comes down to I've

547
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Speaker 1: never seen anyone like him before. Like athletically, he's you know,

548
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Speaker 1: he measured in this morning and he's got thirty five

549
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Speaker 1: in arms, and he's he's to seventy five and he's chiseled,

550
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Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna run in the four fives. And

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Speaker 1: he's been an impact player, like even if when he

552
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Speaker 1: didn't have sack production, he demanded double teams. He even

553
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Speaker 1: got triple teams at time. He's great at using that

554
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: link to keep blockers off his body. He's got a

555
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Speaker 1: good motor, he's he's just a special talent. And with

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Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, who kind of got on my rate a

557
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: little late because he was a redshirt sophomore, so I

558
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't know if he would declare or not, I think

559
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Speaker 1: he's more of a prototypical for three defensive end just

560
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't have that quick twitch that you see,

561
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: but in a short area, his quicknesses is like Aaron

562
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 1: Donald with what he can do from a power step perspective.

563
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Speaker 1: So he would be in a four three he could

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Speaker 1: play and he could play three technique. He probably play

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Speaker 1: five technique a little bit in a three four. So

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Speaker 1: he's just a special guy with quickness. He's got long

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Speaker 1: arms as well, even though he's just the hair under

568
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Speaker 1: six three. And again, you watch that UNC game the

569
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Speaker 1: Sun Bowl. He absolutely destroyed the entire offensive line. He

570
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: was like a one man wrecking crew. So he's just

571
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Speaker 1: also a great kid and a good player. The last

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Speaker 1: question for Bleacher Reports Matt Miller here, what's the deal

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Speaker 1: with the offensive tackles this year. I was talking to

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler about this yesterday that every draft that I

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Speaker 1: can remember, we've always talked about offensive tackles in the

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Speaker 1: top ten. No, now a month and a half out

577
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Speaker 1: or two months out doesn't look like anybody's gonna be

578
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Speaker 1: going early. No, yeah, it is absolutely right. You know,

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00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Garrett Bowls has had a good workout so far this morning.

580
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: That might push him to be a top fifteen pick,

581
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Speaker 1: just because historically someone always goes in the top fifteen.

582
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Speaker 1: But this is not the year to need an elite

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Speaker 1: left tackle, and which is can be unfortunate for a

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Speaker 1: team that needs some offensive linehelp. But I think some

585
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: of it is the development of these guys in college.

586
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: They're just not asked to do a lot of things

587
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: pro style. And you know, you look at the two

588
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: top tackles this year, Garret Bolls and Ryan Ramcheck. They

589
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: were both one year starters at Division one school, so

590
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: you're really buying into the athletic upside of these players

591
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: and not so much what they actually did on the field. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's Radio Row. You're a busy man, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: stopping by, and we'll let you get get you, uh

594
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Speaker 1: go into some more work you fold at NFL Draft Scott.

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Speaker 1: That's Matt Miller. We're gonna bring in Mike west Off

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Speaker 1: here momentarily. Thanks buddy, Thanks man, good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you've heard from Chad Pennington here in

598
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Speaker 1: Indy as well as Bleacher Report head NFL Draft writer

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Speaker 1: Matt Miller. We're bringing in uh coach Mike west Off

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Speaker 1: right now, who's an analyst on s n Y long terms,

601
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Speaker 1: a long time special teams coordinator for the Jets, of course, coach,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. All right, great, happy

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Speaker 1: to be here. Um, alright, so let's not bury the

604
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: lead UH Jets reportedly moving on from Brandon Marshall. Your

605
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: reaction when you find out about it interesting because I

606
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: I've always like to know exactly why and and and

607
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: I heard reported that that that that he brought it up,

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Speaker 1: that that he mentioned that he wanted to finish his

609
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Speaker 1: career with a contender or with a you know, playoff

610
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Speaker 1: bound team or whatever. He's never been a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe as a football player. And I can

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Speaker 1: understand that. Um, I'm always a little disappointed, to be honest,

613
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Speaker 1: because because I'm still a fan. You know, I'm a

614
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: Jet fan. That's I will always be. And UM, you know,

615
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I guess I want the guy that that always wants

616
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Speaker 1: to get us into those playoffs and if for summer

617
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: us and he thinks his talents are better elsewhere than

618
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: they probably are. Um, Frankly, to be honest, I was

619
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: very disappointed in his play last year, very because I

620
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: think he's a heck of a football player. I thought

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Speaker 1: two years ago, I not only liked what he did,

622
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: I like the way he handled it off the field.

623
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Speaker 1: I was very impressed. I don't think I was as

624
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: equally unimpressed last year, but I was close to it.

625
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: I was just disappointed. Um. Someone asked me a question

626
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: last year during the season. They said, Mike is does

627
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: he want to be an actor or a football player?

628
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: And I was disappointed that even someone would have to

629
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Speaker 1: ask me that question. To be honest with you, I

630
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: thought a little bit he was playing football like an actor,

631
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Speaker 1: because I just didn't see what I had seen from

632
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Speaker 1: him in the past, and that's disappointing. Um, And there

633
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: were lots of things that were disappointment. So I guessed

634
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: a long answer to your simple question, Um, under the circumstances,

635
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: it may be a very good move, because sometimes I

636
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: think there's a movement for a little bit of youth

637
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: and some exuberance and some enthusiasm, and I'm not sure

638
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: that that was completely there with him. So I actually

639
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: think it for the Jets, this is probably, in a

640
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: lot of ways, a good, solid moved. I still think

641
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Brandon and his lead player in this league acquired in

642
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: a trade in two thousand and fifteen, I think he

643
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: had one of the finest stuff offensive seasons. Absolutely absolutely

644
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: talking about fourteen hundred yards, receiving fourteen touchdowns, ten a

645
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: hundred yard games. Wow, he was amazing. I loved the

646
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: way he handled himself off the field. I loved his leadership,

647
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: the way he was such a teammate. And then and

648
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: then that seemed to wane a little bit, and and

649
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Uh, injuries are always a factor with that.

650
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: So in some ways you have to move on. There's

651
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: a business and the Jets are shown quite obviously in

652
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, last couple of weeks or so,

653
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: that they mean business, and that's what I wanted to

654
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: ask you about. Mike mccagnet has made it clear after

655
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: the season, and Whatdy Johnson did as well, said we

656
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: want to build this team to the draft. And you're

657
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: talking about guys that they've released over the past week

658
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: or ten days or so. And Brandon Marshall's gonna turn

659
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: thirty three throughover Eve, It's gonna turn thirty two in July,

660
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Nick Focus thirty two and Nick Mangle thirty three, Brenald

661
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Giagamini thirty one. So there definitely is a youth moment.

662
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: There's no doubt it really is. Um and every name

663
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: that you mentioned has been a viable contributor and done

664
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: a lot of good things on and off the field.

665
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: That the guys that you could be proud of that

666
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: they were Jets. But at the same time, there's been

667
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: some changes injuries, age, etcetera, etcetera, and you have to

668
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: move on now. Sometimes you're not quite ready to make

669
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: this drastic of a move, But so what Let's make

670
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: the move, and let's get going and get this team

671
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: back on track. I can deal easily with rebuilding quote unquote.

672
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Coaches don't do that, but I can. I can deal

673
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: with it if I see the team moving forward. I

674
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: want want to see the preparation. I want to see

675
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: the changes. With that in mind, I can deal with

676
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: whatever happens. All Right, we're here in Indy, two thousands,

677
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL combine. The quarterbacks are going to speak today,

678
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: and uh, what do you know about Patrick Mahomes from

679
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: tax at Tech? Only a little bit that I've heard um,

680
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: And I won't I won't try. I won't quote him,

681
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: but I actually am. I am good friends with with

682
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: the number of guys that that that's that that go

683
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: into this. But the guy that that um that jumps

684
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: at me. Here's what I heard. And I don't really

685
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: want to reveal my source. I don't know if that's

686
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: you don't have you don't have to do. But I

687
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: can in some ways. I've got to know John Gruden

688
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: very well. He invited me to come up to Orlando

689
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: to be to be part of his show, to just

690
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: be on the set. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

691
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: He talked to me just the other day about doing that,

692
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: and I want to do it, He recommended the young

693
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: man from Texas Tech. He kind of like that. Again,

694
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: it's only just a little bit. We haven't seen everything,

695
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: but there's some things that jumped out at him. I

696
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: don't think anyone knows and studies quarterbacks better than John Gruten.

697
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I really don't. And that name, you know, if it

698
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: popped up a little bit, So are you gonna go visit?

699
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go up there. I

700
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: live close to our Lando. It's gonna take me a

701
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: couple of hours. I'll drive over there, and uh, he said,

702
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: I you want to be I could be on the set,

703
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, sitting and watch him do it, go out

704
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: on the field with them, and just witness him be

705
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: a part of it. So I think when it's all done,

706
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: I'll have a pretty good feel for who's a good court.

707
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Do you know which quarterbacks you're actually gonna see? Are

708
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: you gonna see? I know he's gonna have the top

709
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: guys there, Um, Ob Washton, you sure? So? Yeah? Those

710
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: are the guys. Who else? I don't have the whole

711
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: and I probably won't be able to see everyone, but

712
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: I think it would be a great experience and uh,

713
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: certainly give me a pretty good idea. Who looks pretty good? Alright, Coach,

714
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: we talked about some of these moves the Jets have made,

715
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: so they're definitely under the cap here. I don't know

716
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: what the exact number it's got, just close. I'm gonna

717
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: gets mid thirties somewhere around there. So with that's just

718
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money. With that being said, free agency

719
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: around the corner. Because the combine is late this year,

720
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: free ancy starts on Thursday. It's amazing quick turnaround here.

721
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: What do you want to see from the Jets and

722
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: free agency now? As I think they've got I think

723
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: they've got the resources. I would go get a really

724
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: good cornerback. I would get a corner that that's a

725
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: young young man from Texas, from the Texans, uh, from

726
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: from the Houston team really interest me. Yeah, I'd like

727
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: to see him, uh get some money invested there and

728
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: get one there, one in the bank, and then go

729
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: from there. You know, I am not in favor of

730
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: spending a big, gigantic ton of that money to get

731
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: one of those, to get one of the free agent quarterbacks.

732
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that that's not what I what

733
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: I feel that Jets should do. Uh. If they go

734
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: that way, I'll honor and respect it, but I'm gonna

735
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: sure question it. I don't want that to happen. I'd

736
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: like to see them start at that cornerback position. I'd

737
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: also like to see them if they could find a good, solid,

738
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: and I mean a good solid starter as an offensive

739
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: lineman somewhere. This is not a great year in the

740
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: draft at the tackle position. You wish it were, it's not.

741
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm hearing just rumors of a guy that could be

742
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: the best. It was brought to me by some scout

743
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: type people. Uh, young man from from Utah, and I

744
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: heard some good things about them. So we'll see. I'll

745
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: learn more this as I go. I don't know everybody yet.

746
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to get started, beginning to get started. Um.

747
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them try to try to do

748
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: that and solidify that a little bit. So I think

749
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: they could spend a little bit of money and get

750
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: and really get a foundation and then get into the

751
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: draft and go to work. But not to me, that

752
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: cornerback is what I would start with. That would be

753
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: my goal. Yeah, and we were talking about it yesterday

754
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: when I saw you here at the hall uh during

755
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: a hallway conversation at the Convention Center. Is that just

756
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: because you get a they're back in free agency, it

757
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: doesn't preclude you from coming back in the draft. And

758
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: maybe number six you want to get cock never have

759
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: you never have enough of those guys because you're always

760
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: playing nickel and ime packages. You're always playing so many

761
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: of your sub packages and you have to have them. Um,

762
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: And this is a good corner draft. Now, I've heard

763
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: some arguments from and I try to I try to

764
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: sit with the guys that are that know a lot

765
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: more about it than me that study the draft. They

766
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: study everyone, and there's some real question marks as to

767
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: is there a corner. Lots of good ones, but is

768
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: there one worthy of the sixth pick? And right now,

769
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: people that I've talked to don't feel so they're a

770
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: little nervous. You know that the young man from Ohio

771
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: State shan that that he's got. He's not a jam guy,

772
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: doesn't do that very well, great athletic skills. He's got

773
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: a history of injury that scares me a little bit.

774
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: He's had a hamstring things already had a hamstring surgery. Yeah,

775
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't want the Milner, you know, the guy that's

776
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: got a history of injury. That scares me. I love

777
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: the young man from Florida. He's a guy that I

778
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: personally know a little bit about. Uh. But yeah, I

779
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: heard he's not quite We're ready for that pick. That's

780
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: all interesting how they graded. I'm not I don't know

781
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: enough right now because I'm not I'm not the one

782
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: that sitting down and grading all the films and putting

783
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: numbers on these guys. But that makes it interesting. But

784
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: it is a loaded group, and you're gonna get a

785
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: good football player there to get to I'm in favor now.

786
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: We were talking about the offensive line before for the Jets. Uh.

787
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: Ryan Clady is going to be a free agent. Uh.

788
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: The Jets released seven time Pro bowler and Nick Mangold

789
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: at center position. Brenda Jacka me he started thirty seven

790
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: games for this team over the past three seasons of

791
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: right tackle. Coach, you are doing radio, uh and also

792
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: s n Y. So you're watching the Jets each and

793
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: every week the year. Always. Do you like what you

794
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: saw from Wes Johnson at the center position? Think the guy.

795
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: I think he's got a heck of a chance. To

796
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: tell you the truth, I was surprised. I didn't know

797
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: him that well. I was worried about a disaster. And

798
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: I saw some teams test them where they would come

799
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: down and they would you know, double a double egal

800
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: you slide the line down and you isolate him where

801
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: they can get a one on one on him. He

802
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: handled it. He did a nice job. I was very

803
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: very impressed. Um. I thought their offensive line really showed

804
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: some very good coaching combinations. He did a heck of

805
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: a job. And Uh with some of the things that

806
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: some of the hands that he was dealt to me,

807
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: one of the ways I always judge a coach and

808
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: judge myself was Okay, what do you do with what

809
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: you have? Because you you always don't have everything? How

810
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: are you going to figure it out? And I think

811
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: he did a heck of a job with that. So

812
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: Johnson impresses me. Um. How about Brandon Chelle at the

813
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: right tackle position? He started down the stretch. He did

814
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: a better job than when I first saw him in

815
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: training camp. I thought he was very awkward. He had

816
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: a real Tennessee to lean forward, he didn't have the

817
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: good balance. He improved. He improved his technique through Now

818
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: I haven't studied him enough to really say this guy

819
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: is a bona fide guy, but he's gonna make it interesting. Yeah,

820
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: it's better than I expected. And from what I watched

821
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: in training camp, I'm thinking to myself, this is really

822
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: a raw young man that needs a lot of work.

823
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: But I saw that progression during the season. He's the

824
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: end of the year, pretty good guy. He's a maler,

825
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: he's long. Um, that's what you like. And you know,

826
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: tab Bowl said it when he met with the media

827
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: that he will be have an opportunity to start with

828
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: that right tackle spot. Left tackle, wellt's see what happens there.

829
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: I wonder it wants free agency? Uh again with lady,

830
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't hard to pick up a free agent, you know,

831
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: left tackle because nobody, you know, they're they're just not

832
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: giving him away. It's like, you know, losing an arm

833
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: or something. You know that sounds good, but forget it.

834
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to do that. So you're gonna get someone

835
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: that's got lots of gaps and holes there. You may

836
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: have to draft a position or draft someone that could

837
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: move into that position. Um. The thing that was shell

838
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: that I'll go back to for just a second. I

839
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: think he needs I'd love to see him really just

840
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: move into the weighting room. I think he needs to

841
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: be a little stronger. He's head in that direction, he's

842
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: not far from it, and he can get that take

843
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: that little bit extra step because sometimes the guys. It

844
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: really happened to the Brickishaw Ferguson. I'll never for a guy.

845
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: I can remember sitting in meetings UM with Eric and

846
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: Eric lookin and or Tony Wise, our offensive line coach,

847
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: and just abusing him as to why we drafted this guy.

848
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: I just really was really it was, it was. It

849
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: really won't any fun. You know, what are we doing

850
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: with this guy? You criticized him up and down? Why

851
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: did you know you're telling me this? We took him

852
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: in the first round, and I used to sort of

853
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: defend Tony. Uh, Eric had a thing Ereric did. Eric

854
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: didn't argue with me. He left me alone. Uh we've

855
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: got along pretty well actually, which was a good thing

856
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: for him. But anyway, because I don't I was frustrating

857
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: for me what was happening. But when Eric, when when

858
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: the Brickishaw Ferguson came out of Virginia, he looked more

859
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: like a big time basketball player than he did it

860
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: the only way like two eight six eight five. And

861
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: I said, you know a lot of times that affected

862
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: how he was playing because in order to stop the

863
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: bull rush, because he didn't have the size and girth

864
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and strength, he had the lunge and try to smack. Well,

865
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: that would lead to leaning forward and getting beaten. So

866
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't He didn't have the body to properly execute

867
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: the technique. He didn't have that. But once he grew

868
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: into it, and I never I used to go in

869
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: the weight room and I would watch and I'd be

870
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: and I said, who, Who's doing that? And the guy said,

871
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: that's bricks coming in. And I watched them step by

872
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: step by step get bigger and stronger, and all of

873
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, just the guy to play the gazillion game.

874
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: What a run with him? And uh number four overall

875
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: the brickshaw Ferguson from Virginia and number twenty nine overall

876
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: played a million games at Pro Bowl level. And that's

877
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: something that we all took for granted because you get

878
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: so used to But what what I saw with Brick

879
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: and I've seen with a lot of young guys, sometimes

880
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: they have to develop and grow into the position you're

881
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: not quite strong enough, or you might be real strong

882
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: enough and you don't have the quite the movement and

883
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: being fluid enough, and sometimes that takes time. And this

884
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: is what some of the questions are right now. At

885
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: that offensive tackle. As I was going through the draft,

886
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: I was really hoping I'd find three or four guys.

887
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I just oh, yes, yes, yes, And I don't see

888
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: that right, I'm not hearing that. So that that's that's

889
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: an interesting question because the Jets really need to bolster that.

890
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: I think they've got some They've got some building blocks,

891
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: but they have some work ahead. All right, Well, one

892
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: more question for Mike Westuff before we get in. A

893
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Bob Globber is stopping by here at the Indianapolis Convention Center,

894
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: a long time NFL writer for Newsday, of course, Uh, coach,

895
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: speaking of young players, Uh, what do you think about

896
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: the development of Leonard Williams last season and then getting

897
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: his first Pro Bowl worth and then behind him, how

898
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: about the way Darren Lee came on show development late

899
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: in the season. You talk about a guy who you'd

900
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: like to see a jump from what we saw Leonard

901
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: take that jump from year one to year two. Maybe

902
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Darren Lee can take a jump from year one to

903
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: year two. It's it's not only should it, it has

904
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: to happen. It has to happen. I was very disappointed

905
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: with the what I saw out of Darren Lee, and

906
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm just gonna go back. I would be

907
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm gonna I'm gonna put it on

908
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: the coaches. I think you have to get a guy

909
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: in a position to be able to execute what he

910
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: can do his skills. This is an extremely quick, explosive

911
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: football player and he's playing inside taking on three hundred

912
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: pound guards. He has no chance. If I run offense,

913
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna pound him, put him in. I'm

914
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball every place. I'm gonna beat him

915
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: to death. But all of a sudden, you start moving

916
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: him around and he's coming off the edge. He's involved

917
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: in blitz packages. Look Out, I could see him at

918
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: at off off of the defensive left side with Leonard

919
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Williams being a rush package. That would almost that would

920
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 1: give any offense fits for that what those two guys

921
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: could do, and we didn't see it. So I'm gonna

922
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: put the pressure on the coaches to come up. I

923
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: want to see an identity, man, I really believe it's

924
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: it's almost like I'm frustrated as a coach. Sometimes I

925
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: was like, I want to give me a board and

926
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: I'll draw you four three defense and put these guys

927
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: in it and win football games. I really firmly believe

928
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: that that's just me. Maybe that's maybe that's my arrogance, uh,

929
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: but I believe in that. I want to see our

930
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: defensive line remind me of the Sack Exchange. I want

931
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: to see the same kind of guys because I used

932
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: to go against the sack exchange. We never had a

933
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: meeting a coach shul how do how do we handle him?

934
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: How do we handle him? What do we do with Kleco?

935
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: How do we what do we do with you know,

936
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: with with Joe? How are we gonna play these guys? Uh?

937
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: You know? With with Marty? And it was tough. I

938
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: didn't see that because I saw people moving all over,

939
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: are in different spots and Leonard uh you know, and uh,

940
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: Sheldon Rich and dropping into the flat. I was frustrated

941
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: with that. I don't want to see Darren Lee inside

942
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: taking on a gigantic guard. I want to see the

943
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, you know. I want to see David Harris

944
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: playing that position, or maybe in the draft, maybe a

945
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: young man from from Alabama would be in foresting Foster

946
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: would be an interesting six pick, and that may make

947
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: you move on from David if you did. But one

948
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: thing you'd know for sure. We're younger and we're faster

949
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: because this group can run, and that's a positive thing.

950
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: I want to have something that scares the opponent. I

951
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to say I don't

952
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: want to play Jets defense mac when they drive you crazy,

953
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: that's what I want to see, and they the truth.

954
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't see it last year. I didn't

955
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: see it. Um. I think it can happen. And that's

956
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: what I'm hoping to find. That if, if, if Darren

957
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: Lee takes the kind of progression and moves like Leonard did,

958
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: look out because he will be He'll scare you to death.

959
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: And that's the hope at that nation. And that's former

960
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: Jets special teams coordinator Mike west Off breaking it down

961
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: for you. You can watch him on s n Y

962
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: because he's here in Indy. Until are you leaving today.

963
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: I'll be leaving tomorrow, but he'll have you up to

964
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: date on smy coach. So nice of you to stop by,

965
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: great great talking shop. We're gonna bring up Bob Glauber

966
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: here momentarily. You've heard from here in Indian half Miller

967
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: west Off and here comes Bob Glauber, uh of Newsday

968
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: here as we roll on at Radio Row inside the

969
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: conventions side our Bobby, How are you, Eric? I'm great?

970
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: How are you? Thanks for having me. It's great to

971
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: spend sometime with you. So what do you think about

972
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 1: the combine? I read your article today? Uh your major

973
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: takeaways from Todd Bowls is uh news briefing yesterday Todd

974
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: Bowls was on the spot. My point is that if

975
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: he had done this kind of house cleaning in year

976
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: one for a coach, totally normal, just rip off the bandage,

977
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: don't you know, and go through the pain. Early things

978
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: happen in year one, and you know, to Bowls did

979
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: a terrific job with what happened, and particularly with Gino

980
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Smith and then going right Fitzpatrick, they go to ten

981
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: and six, they almost make the playoffs. You know, you're

982
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: so okay, we'll give it another shot that was not

983
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contending team, but they kind of acted

984
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: like it was, and they they tried, and obviously it

985
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: didn't work. And now you're seeing this massive house cleaning

986
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: that you don't really see ordinarily. I mean sometimes you'll

987
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: see it again in year one. So Bowls is now

988
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: year three. He was on the hot seat last year.

989
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: It's a very tough spot. I hope they get the

990
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: quarterback position, right. I think that's going to be the

991
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: key and really everything. If they can get it here,

992
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: if they get Mike Glennon, if Gino comes back and

993
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: lights it up, if something happens where it goes better

994
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, and I think you can you

995
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: can at least be optimistic. All Right, it's official now.

996
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: The team has stated that Brandon Marshall indeed has been released.

997
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: I know, colleague of yours, Kim Martin was first of

998
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: the story. Uh, yes, News Day, So congrats to Kim

999
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: on that Brandon took the Instagram last night and had

1000
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: a nice farewell. Uh really enjoyed covering him that and

1001
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did as well as Uh. Brandon, Uh

1002
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: a tremendous guy with the media, totally understood this side

1003
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: of the business since he's been taking part in it

1004
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: over at inside NFL, and he's got a future in that,

1005
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: but I think he's got a lot of good football

1006
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: left in him. Were you surprised at all by anything

1007
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: that has transpired by these releases, including they forementioned Marshall

1008
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: last night? Yeah, I am a little bit surprised at

1009
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: how sweeping it was, because I thought there were there

1010
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: was a chance that some of these guys would take

1011
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: pay cuts or would be offered pay cuts. But I

1012
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: just think the decision was made obviously that we're going

1013
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: We're just we're just going, Okay, we are going for

1014
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: the rebuild. Now, that's a pretty bold move. It is

1015
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: a bold move, and it's Harry's risk. Isn't a boulder

1016
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: move because it is New York, because this is the

1017
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: market that you know so well. You know, you've been

1018
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: covered for decades, decades, decades about what are you saying.

1019
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying that you are experienced that trian with a

1020
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: high with a high No. No, no, the gap numbers

1021
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: very reasonable. No. But what they're what they're doing right now?

1022
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: Um you you you just said, Hey, listen, it's not easy.

1023
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: It's not easy. New York does play into it because

1024
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: with a young team, you have to believe that it's

1025
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: going to be a struggle record wise. If you're you know,

1026
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: two and six after eight games, you know you're saying, oh,

1027
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: is this gonna work? So you know, football is not

1028
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: an instantaneous type sport. You just don't catch lightning in

1029
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: a bottle. You can't. It's not free agency in baseball

1030
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: where you can get better. You get you signed guys

1031
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: and you know you plugged them in. You get two pictures,

1032
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: you get you get a first baseman who can hit

1033
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: home runs. You're going to be better the next year.

1034
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: It takes time in football, and this is going to

1035
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: take time. And that's why I think that quarterback position

1036
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: is going to be so important in setting the tone

1037
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: for all these things. All right, listen, you're not only

1038
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: alive on New York Just dot com, but you're also

1039
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: live in front of thousands on our Facebook page. How

1040
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Hello? All right, so you listen,

1041
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: you said they got to get the quarterback position figured out. Yes,

1042
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: but Bob, when you look at the free agent crowd

1043
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: and we're here in indeed, the prospects are going to

1044
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: be talking today a lot of different views on how

1045
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: good this class is. It's easier said than right, much

1046
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: easier said than done. And you know, I think this

1047
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: is a particular draft where those quarterbacks are going to

1048
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: go high. Quarterbacks always go high there. They were always

1049
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: pushed higher by need. It's just the way it is.

1050
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: You can get into a situation where you have, uh,

1051
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: the year Christian Ponder came out, there were a bunch

1052
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, a bunch of quarterbacks who went that year

1053
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: who we lost the light here, but we're still gonna

1054
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: pay Well, well, we'll go in the dark. Um. And

1055
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: you can overdraft. It's very easy to overdraft. And I

1056
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: think you will see some quarterbacks this year who will

1057
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: end up being overdrafted because they're just not projected as

1058
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: the big time guys. And Seawan Watson, I don't know.

1059
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: Is he a top ten pick in other draft years?

1060
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: Probably not. You know, if you get a Mariota in

1061
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: Winston year, he is not. But they pushed the envelope

1062
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: and they pushed them up the board. And the teams

1063
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: that are worse off usually have a big need at

1064
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: quarterback unless you can you really feel really confident about

1065
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: that and then, especially a year after spending a second

1066
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: round pick on Christian hacken Bro, who you would not

1067
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: let near the field, I think there are some legitimate

1068
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: issues going on there. I think you're going to have

1069
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: to go into the free avenue offensive coordinator John Morton,

1070
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: and you do have a new quarterbacks coach in Jeremy

1071
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Bates is second stint with the Jets. We actually talked

1072
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: to Chapennington about Bates before. So, but if you're him

1073
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: and you're coming in here and you've got a couple

1074
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: of young quarterbacks, you're excited about the challenge that. I guess, well,

1075
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: look when you have young quarterbacks, yeah, it's exciting, but

1076
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: they got to get better now. Bryce Petty took some

1077
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: steps forward, he also took some steps back. Christian Hackenburgh.

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Speaker 1: We don't, don't, we don't. We don't know what. I

1079
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Here's what we know. They

1080
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't let him near the field on five and eleven season.

1081
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him get near it to get a

1082
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: look see at this guy. That's that says something, Eric,

1083
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really ignore that. No, I'm not

1084
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: ignoring it. I'm saying there was nine offensive line and

1085
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: combinations last year for the Jets. Um, okay, but still

1086
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: you you theoretically want to get a look at your

1087
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: second round quarterback at some point in a season. That

1088
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: is done. But I will say this too, you have

1089
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: to admit this that even when they drafted him mcagnets,

1090
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: the guy said, in a perfect world, you never play

1091
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. Okay, he did say that. Well, but

1092
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, yeah, I know you process. Okay, So

1093
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: but when you look at the free agine crowd, you

1094
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: like Glennan, you would you would put him on top

1095
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: anybody out there. I wouldn't approach the market, Yes, I would.

1096
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: I I think Mike Glennon is the guy that look,

1097
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: he's not a savior, He's not a Bill Endell. Um,

1098
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to trade for Garoppolo. I

1099
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: don't know what what's gonna. I think they're gonna just

1100
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: go to the highest bidder there. They either trade to

1101
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: Chicago or Cleveland or keep him. But Garoppolo is not

1102
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: in play to me for the Jets. For the Jets, Um,

1103
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: Glennon I think is a guy that he was on

1104
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: their radar during the draft. Um, And you know there

1105
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: was some some interest there, but I think he is

1106
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: the guy that has the experience even as a backup,

1107
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: and he had a couple of starts, you know, for

1108
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: injury a couple of years ago. But I think he

1109
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: is the guy who projects as the best free agent quarterback.

1110
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: And I know other teams were interested in him and

1111
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: have been interested in him if their own quarterback situations

1112
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: didn't work out. So I like Glennan and I don't

1113
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: dismiss Gino coming back. Listen, you know, Gino has been

1114
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: through a lot, some by his own doing. But I

1115
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: just as much as you as a as a fan

1116
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: who was frustrated, would want to say, no, I've got

1117
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: to get him out of here. I think you have

1118
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: to leave open that possibility, and you have to leave

1119
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: open the possibility that the guy is gonna get better

1120
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: and improve and be functional. All right. So if I'm

1121
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: going newsday either tomorrow morning or Sunday, and I can

1122
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: definitely do that online as well. You're you're probably writing quarterbacks,

1123
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: are you? Do you know your focusing? How are you're

1124
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: gonna listen in Rubisky Watts and Kaiser Mahomes and kind

1125
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: of get a field before or what? What are we

1126
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: doing well. You don't cover, you don't write about the

1127
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: game before it's playing. I'm sure you gotta listen and

1128
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: see how they carry themselves. I think all all those

1129
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: guys are are gonna be fairly polished for this exercise

1130
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: and media relations. What it is, um, you know there's

1131
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: but again, I think you're looking at it number six

1132
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: a year after drafting a quarterback with the second second round.

1133
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Do you go into that? Do you go that high

1134
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: with one of these guys or do you kind of

1135
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: weight gamble, maybe even trade down, get some more picks

1136
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: and then take take one who was abail To tell

1137
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: you what this is, something I'm convinced of after being

1138
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: here a couple of days and being down in Mobile, Alabama,

1139
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: Alabama the Senior Bowl, is that there are a lot

1140
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: of impact players on both sides of the ball here

1141
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: early in this draft, and the draft has a lot

1142
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: of doubts, but I think if you stay at six

1143
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: and you'll take a quarterback, you're gonna be getting a

1144
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: guy who's who's gonna be a player immediately. There are

1145
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: players in this draft. The strength of this draft lines

1146
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: up with the Jets needs, and that's at quarterback and

1147
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: that's at edge rusher. So there are two needs right there. Now.

1148
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: Depends on what Mike mccagnen and Todd Bowls feel about

1149
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, you're going to have an opportunity to draft

1150
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: one of them. Maybe the best case scenarios, those quarterbacks

1151
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: get overdrafted so high they go one to maybe even

1152
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: five or three with the Bears, and it could be

1153
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: there could be this early run on the quarterbacks. It's

1154
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: almost the best case scenario. You just don't have that choice.

1155
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: But all things being equal, I think they will not

1156
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: go quarterback at six UM, but obviously keeping keeping all

1157
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: options open. Well, Bob Glauber is always keeping his options open,

1158
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: and he stopped by today. So we thank you from

1159
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: making the right decision right there. I gotta thank god.

1160
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: Chad Pennyton, Matt Miller from Bleacher Report, Mike West office here,

1161
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Glaber was here, they had an action pack show. Thanks

1162
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: everybody on the Facebook for tuning in, and uh make

1163
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: sure here to check out Bob on newsday. We will

1164
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: be back in Foremer Park tomorrow. It's been fun from

1165
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: here in India. Eric Ella, So I don't know