WEBVTT - #468 - Hi-Tone 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.280 Yo, what's up? This is High Tone and I'm right 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.520 here with Bootleg keV. Make sure to check out that 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:05.279 new episode. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:11.200 Ooh all right man, Yo, Bootleg cap podcast. We got 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:12.720 a specially look, I got your No Lame shit in 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:17.240 here by the way, damn Bootleg Cat Podcast special guests. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:18.800 My guy high Tone is here. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:19.919 Boom, what's up? 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.439 What's up? I just was on your podcast, the No 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:23.200 Lames podcast? 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.799 You were How are you been doing that since January? So? 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.520 But it was already a podcast before you were official. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.840 Yeah. Yeah, And I got new year, new new things. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.680 They wanted to kind of like just bring in like 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.440 some new talent, new hosts. And I've known Rocky since 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.000 for fifteen years now, so he's always told me, Bro, 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.440 try a podcast. Try And I'm like, Dog, I just 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.520 got so much on my plate that I didn't feel 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.519 like I could do it alone, right, you know, So 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.559 just jumping on board with two homies, I felt more comfortable. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:58.320 It's been cool learning experience, Like I come into any situation, 0:00:58.400 --> 0:00:59.959 I don't really know too much about it, and I'm 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.120 just soaked the game up? Dog in is it? 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.080 Uh? Once a week Thursdays. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.679 Every Thursday, live on our YouTube channel, And Yeah, I 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.360 think the hardest part, BRO has just been juggling everything 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.920 dog because I you know, with the tatting and the 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.080 music and you know the things that I do, like 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.720 setting another couple hours aside Bro to do that at night. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.720 It's it's that's been the difficult thing for me. Uh. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.680 Obviously you've always tattooed. Would you say because we kind 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:33.959 of talked about this a little bit, you kind of 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.119 like I did. I don't. I'm gonna say you took 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:36.360 all the way to step back from music, but I 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.240 feel like you're a lot more active like ten years 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.480 ago maybe right, Yeah, I mean, I mean you just 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.640 put an EP out with Steels. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.880 I've always I mean I've been consistent, like yearly putting 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.000 music out. But yeah, I mean there was a there 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.320 was moments in my career where I would drop three 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:52.200 four albums a year. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:53.720 No, I'm saying there was like a point in time 0:01:53.720 --> 0:02:00.400 where you were super super pressing the gas. Would you said, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.480 what would is there something because I feel like you 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.840 got the itch again to like really go go in 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.640 like that because I just saw you were shooting content 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.120 with Gee Perico and yeah, would you say that, like, 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.720 what would would be the biggest uh inspiration, that kind 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.920 of because you say, we're going to talk about it 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:17.320 on the air. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.680 Yeah, So I mean we you know, we were on 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.120 the podcast and you were like, you're not like, you know, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.880 you didn't say it consistent. You're like, you're like, you know, you're. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.919 Not consistent most other artists. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.280 Here's the thing. I have twenty albums out on Spotify. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.040 There's not too many artists that is even doing music 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.000 right now, Bro, that is in that category of consistency 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.360 and dropping music. You can't sustain that and withhold that 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.400 pressure for twenty years, dog for fifteen years. I mean 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.560 it's unheard of too, you know, drop that much music. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.120 So when my foot was on the gas, Bro and 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.840 I was dropping three four albums a year, it was 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.800 just a stage in my life, Bro, where I felt 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:03.360 like music was the only thing on my mind and 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.080 that I could make money off of. And as I 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.440 got older, BRO, and realized the music game is pretty 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.480 much trash when it comes financially. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.840 Yeah, you're really not gonna make any music. The catalog's 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.960 cool because you know, it accumulates and then you get 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.680 that nice monthly residual, but like in terms of like, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.440 what streams actually pay you. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.680 You're not gonna You're not buying a crib, You're not 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.720 not for sure. So as I got older, Bro, I 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.079 was like, man, like, I need to have my hands 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:35.280 in different baskets to accumulate one big part of the month. Dog. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.960 So that's why most people should like, I think every artist, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.120 no matter how big or small they are, should have that. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.640 One thousand percent dog. And that's what I'm getting to like. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.120 It may seem like I'm not as active musically, but 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.920 I just figured out how to do multiple things at 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.760 the same time. And when you do that, one thing's 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.880 gonna slack a little bit, whether that's tatting music. So 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.360 I'm making music money tattoo money. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.920 But you also, like were slacking on the tattoo and 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:02.720 when you were full. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.280 Of You're never ever gonna be one hundred percent into 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.520 one thing unless that's all you do. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.640 Bro, And then like the tattoo game for you is 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.200 very very uh, it's lucrative. It's lucrative. Yeah, right, I 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.480 mean you're great at tatts, dude, Like thank you, Bro, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.719 And like most people will be like, yeah, tattoo and 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.120 I'd be like, do you But. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.520 I mean I was. I came from some of the greats, Bro. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.719 I was able to be molded and and really learn 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.240 how to tattoo from the greatest out there. Bro. And 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:33.839 I mean I don't take that for granted. And it 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.640 was just another hustle dog to help me create music independently. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:37.880 Bro. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.960 I took that tat money and put it into rat money. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.839 Right were you did you have to go through like 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.280 that whole Like what did they call it when you're 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:47.880 coming up as a tattooer. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:48.760 Oh, you're the bitch of the shop. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:49.760 What did they call it? Though? 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.520 Apprenticeship? 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.919 Yeah, apprenticeship, So you had to do all that, Yeah, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.120 tattoo oranges and shit. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.320 I mean back then, dog, it wasn't even about the tatting. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.480 They wanted. They wanted to run you through the mud 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.400 and see if you it even surviving the game. Like 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.560 you're cleaning up piss and throw up from fools drinking, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.800 you're dealing with the drunks that come. You're not learning 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.240 how to tat right away. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.719 Right, They just got to see how serious you are 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.279 about wanting to be around it. There it is, Oh 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.360 and then maybe we'll teach you some share it is right. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:15.919 There, So I went through the gut or Dog. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.760 Are you would you say your specialties like black and white. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.920 Black and gray, realistic? Yeah, you know, it's a It's 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.159 a big form of art now, Bro, you could see 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.080 everyone doing it. Dog. But you know, from learning back 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.200 then to learning now nowadays, dog kids got Internet, kids 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.000 got Instagram, kids got TikTok Bro. You can sit there 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.599 by your ship and be in your kitchen and learn 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:37.800 how to tat in a couple of months. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.800 Dog, guys, people pull up because they found you on 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.600 TikTok it. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.240 It's so different, Bro. Back then there was tattoo conventions. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:51.200 For sure, they're coming back. They're coming back because my 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:52.479 boy just performed a one. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.080 Yeah, they and they are coming back. But it kind 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.280 of was a dying kind of an event, you know, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.440 for the last like eight years. Bro. You know, Instagram 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.080 came over and was like, Bro, that's your portfolio now. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.400 Before Dog, when I was dropping my original first mixtapes, 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.480 me and Nipsey would be doing the same thing. Dog. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.479 We'd hit a tattoo convention. He'd have homies put mixtapes 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.360 in his backpack. I'd have homies put mixtapes in my backpack. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.600 And we were like the only rappers in that scene. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:20.920 Dog. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.240 Actually every boot you would see, you would see a 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.359 nit hustle and a high toned mixtape on every single 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.040 tattoo booth out there, like it was the start. It 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.160 was groundwork. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.680 Yeah. No, I mean it's crazy too, because like that 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.680 world is like super it's like a niche world. But dude, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.919 there's money in that shit. Like I've had homies who've 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.320 like made good money just you know, once or twice 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.000 a year. They're going to do their tour, but they're 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.080 also going to do some tattoo convention and some random 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:53.560 city and pick up a bag. What are your thoughts 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.080 of just like when you first got in to now 0:06:56.240 --> 0:07:00.320 because I feel like you with the people you would 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.680 work with, some of the artists that you would be around, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.840 and shots of Steels too, who's been killing it as 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.320 a producer. I mean that's how I found him through you. Yeah, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.280 but I always felt like you were a dope rapper 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.440 who just happened to be Latino. And it feels like 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.680 nowadays like that is a positive when it comes to 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.640 like how the music business perceives artists, because it feels 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.080 like being a Mexican artist is hot right now, quote unquote, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.040 the scene is growing a ton. What is your perspective 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.680 on what it was like getting into the game when 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.440 you did to just kind of seeing where we are 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:35.520 now in twenty twenty. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.840 Four, it didn't exist really bro like it there. You know, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.200 you had your your groups or you know, your your 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.400 your groups that were like Latino based or you know 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.160 your Cypress heels, your lighter shade of browns, your things 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:48.600 like that. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.560 But when there was the other end, it was like, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.120 you know, like record well. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.440 Then you got you know, your little robs, your capone 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.280 these things like that. Yes, the industry didn't know how 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:03.240 to break a non Chicano rapper that wasn't from a hood, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.640 wasn't rapping gang ship like, there was no real market 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:07.680 for that dog, I. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.920 Mean is cap G. Atlanta Records had no idea what 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:11.440 to do a cab G. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.480 He was. He was the first of its kind, bro 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.680 and you know he even had he had people like 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.680 FORU like co signing and had a lot of ouzzy 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.160 and bro like he was crossing that bridge. Even though 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.880 Atlanta is a little different, you know, or a lot 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:29.880 different than Southern Cali or La Bro like, different politics, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.679 different situations, but the industry did not know what to 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.679 do with it, Bro, and it was it was an 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.760 uphill battle for me, Dog, Like I I fought that 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.840 every single day of my life. Dog. I mean, I've 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.160 had meetings with no Id, Bro. I had people that 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.319 were really, really, really really fans of what I was doing. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:54.320 And even then, Bro, being that much of an influential producer, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.960 you know, someone like no Id, Like, there was not 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:00.400 there was no gang plan. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:01.640 For it, Bro, we don't know what to do. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.679 We just we just don't, like, we don't know, you know. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.880 And then it gradually. I think it just social media, Bro, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.760 And just like there's a ton of Mexicans out here, Dog, 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.080 and talented ones. So I think it was just about 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.680 the world being able to see there was not just 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.600 a certain type of Mexican that the movies portray. Every 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.600 character in the movie is gonna be a similar character. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.080 Like we had that stampoint. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.400 What's the name of the actor, what's the name of 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.439 that actor who plays? Oh, he plays in every type 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.840 cast to do the ball, Dude, is it fast and 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.800 Furious and Hector Hector? 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.160 Yeah, it's it's He's Hector and every Yeah. So that 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.920 was that thing that we it was like we had 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.760 a hole that was created for us to try to 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.400 dig out of. And I think it's kind of here now. Brolight. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.800 Also, like when we're talking about like the fastest growing 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.480 population in the country, if we're talking about like you know, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:03.000 I think to like the younger generation of Chicanos or 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:07.920 Mexican population, they also like they grew up like like 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.800 now they're growing up listening to everybody, right, and so 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.680 I think they're like I feel like back in the day, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.800 like you know, there wasn't for whatever reason, it was 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:24.880 just hard to have certain artists get embraced by that community. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.079 I don't know what it was. I don't know if 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.440 it was like I just feel like nowadays, like people 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.640 are showing up, showing out like there's like fool, there's 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.880 like a full there's a wave dog, it's a wave, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.760 and it's like an infrastructure where you have like blogs 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:42.280 that are big, you have food community, you got food's 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:47.000 gone wild and and you know even on the corrido, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.800 shit like that shit taken off. And I think for 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:55.200 the top five streaming Latin artists are bad bunnies one 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:56.559 of them. The other four Mexican artists. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.800 Yeah, Basol probably. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:05.040 Pesol Pluma for the junior h and I forget the 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.640 other one. But it just shows you, like yo, it 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.479 almost like on a grand scale, world scale, like Reggaetone 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:18.079 was the most consumed Spanish music even in Mexico at times. Right, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.560 So it's like now it's like, okay, well you know, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:25.560 now you got these groups that are doing traditional corrido shit, 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.280 but they look like rappers. Yeah, so the young kids 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.160 are embracing that shit. They're like, this is dope. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.520 If you can make people want to look like you, bro, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.840 you're already on the right path for sure. You know 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.080 the images everything, bro, Like it used to be traditional, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.000 the boots and the button ups, and it was like 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.079 some different type. Now, Bro, you wouldn't know if he's 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.440 a rapper for sure or or for sure you know, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.240 in that genre of music, like right for you. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.520 Being like where you're from, Like obviously Roddy Rax has 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.920 been doing this thing just the whole SGV is. I 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.960 feel like having a moment, you know, Lefty yourself, we 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.560 just had we just had Roddy racks up here not 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.520 long ago. You have it, you guys put a dope 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.800 record out too or no, no, no, I've heard it. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.320 You said to me, Oh, wait a minute, are you 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.079 texting it? Yeah, but I don't know if I was 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:16.760 supposed to say that. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.440 But you no, you're good. Yeah, that's coming out in 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.439 the next three four weeks. I got five albums done. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.600 I worked all last year for this year. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.240 So when you are you working with Steel? I mean, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.280 obviously you just dropped the epeople Steels, but are you 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.120 kind of keeping it like the same team is that 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.319 we've kind of known you to be with everyone knows. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.720 Yeah, when it comes up producing typically it Steals is 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.880 producing ninety nine percent of my shit just because it's 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.400 you know, other's dog like we don't we don't got 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.240 to go in there. And what do you no, Bro? 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.120 This how I'm feeling boom This how it's gonna feel like, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.439 you know, it's plug and play with us? 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.400 Is everything gonna be solo stuff or is it any 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:57.240 other collab stuff? 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:02.200 Because nah, yeah, I got a couple. You know, I'm 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.400 down to, you know, continue like collaborating with like collab 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:10.080 project like drop the Calabby p Steals in Young Alb. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.319 But there's not really no other like with another artist, bro. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.920 Just you know, and you were just with ge Perico. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.400 Was it in Palm Springs? 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:23.559 Yeah, Bro, we got this crazy airbnb fucking mean Steals 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.240 LB just you know, it was for Stell's birthday and 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.120 it was dope because we got to hang out, Bro 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.040 outside of the industry. Dog, you get to really get to. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.040 Just talk, bro, Like we're not here for anything except 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:35.560 just to kick it. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.560 Just hang out, bro, and you get to really like 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.679 know what people are on. Dog, Like some of us 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.800 have the same issues, complaints, same problems, same you know, 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.400 you just don't get that when you're in the studio 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.920 trying to cut records, you know, And I mean I 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.760 think that should be a little bit more done more 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.240 often with artists. Bro, everything just seems to be work. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.319 You know what, though, I think it takes a guy 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.560 like Steals to bring people together. Yeah. Hey he's a 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.319 producer for a lot of people. Hey, I'm doing a 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.480 birthday ship. I'm gonna bring Yeah, he brought Yellow, you 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:07.920 know what I mean. It's like, you know, you kind 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.720 of need a catalyst to sometimes rappers aren't going to 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.200 just hang out on their own for the most part. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:16.520 It's Yeah, it's just weird, Bro. It's because it's always 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.840 like some weird a competition competition thing. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:24.000 It's like, dude, it's not that serious. Like, bro, people 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.480 like steals are needed. Yeah, one thousand, So you have 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.520 five albums done, done, and so what's the plan. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.080 Here's the thing, Bro, Now in my career, I get 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:35.800 to do whatever the fuck I want. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.800 Are you going straight? Distro Kid too. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.800 I'm still an Empire Okay, I got a distro with them. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.080 I'm not in recoop, don't owe them no money. So 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.600 it's pretty much just like a distro. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.520 You're like one of the og Empire guys too. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.400 Yeah, I would assume. I mean I brought that Tory 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:50.760 Lanes record to them when they. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.040 Were was the twenty fourteen Yeah. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.920 Twenty fourteen to fifteen. But uh yeah, I'm just with 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.000 them because we've We've done a lot of business, broke 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.800 a lot of bread and souper. We're cutting dry, dog, Like, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.400 when I want to drop something, you drop it, and 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.120 if it does numbers and I need support, I can 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:08.600 always ask them for support. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:08.840 Dog. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.440 That's what I've what I've earned with them. 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:12.600 Though. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.440 You know when you go to dishtro Kid, when you 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.320 go to Gentry over there, which doesn't gentry is Yeah, 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.400 you know, manage me for for some time and still 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.280 manages still, so everything's still there. The thing is is, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.080 I don't have the pressure no more. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.480 Dog Like like, I'm doing this because I want to 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:28.800 do it. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.080 Because I love it, And when I don't do it, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.840 there's an empty piece in me that's missing, dog and 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.600 that will affect my you know, being a brother, being 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.200 a husband, being a you know, a friend, Like I 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.120 something in me when it's when I'm not doing music, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.840 I'm just not a happy person. And it doesn't need 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.960 to be I need to be the biggest artist in 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.040 the world anymore. Dog Like. I'm doing it for the 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.440 reasons because I because I just want to now, bro, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:54.240 and enjoy it. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.400 Explain to me your fitness journey, because you've gotten like 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.600 fucking you know, you're in good shape now. Yeah, Like 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.640 I feel like you were never like a fat guy, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.040 you know, but I was. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.560 It's crazy because you don't think you're sloppy until you 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.520 have something to compare yourself with. You get me, a 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.520 this car looks clean, but then when you wash the 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.080 car next to it, it looks dirty. So it's all 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.920 I did, Bro, I was sitting here like, man, I'm 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.080 getting I'm getting older, Bro, I have the things that 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.920 you know, a lot of people wishing dream for a 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.400 dog Like I want to be healthy too, Bro, you 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.400 know what I'm saying. And my boy Triple Og was 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.680 just like, dog like you got everything, Dog, Like, you 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.720 just need to get yourself right, take some time for you. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.760 Tone like everything is always about business or this, or 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.040 take care of yourself because that's your vessel. Dog, And 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.600 I think that's what everyone misses here. Bro is like, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.560 no matter, Dog, if you get a Lamborghini tomorrow, do 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.400 you gotta service it, Bro, the oil, the tires, things 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.480 gotta change, bro, or else it's going to fall the shit. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.520 It doesn't matter how expensive it is or what you got, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.160 It will fall apart if you don't take care of it. Yeah, 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.760 you know. So when you put that in my brain, Dog, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.920 I was like, Ahi, Bro, I'm gonna try this. Dog. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.439 I've tried everything else in my life. Like, let me 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:11.119 try to like get like in shape, right, because I 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:12.720 was always one of them fools Like, hey, Bro, I 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.479 don't really do this to get in shape, dog, I 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.200 just want to feel good. Like, but when you start 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.080 to see the change, your whole entire life changes, Dog, 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.560 like your confidence everything around you starts to get better. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.639 Yeah, I feel like people will attempt to get into shape, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.720 and it's usually the people who see the results who 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.720 stick with it, or at least they they started long 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.080 enough to see the results. Because once you start seeing results, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.720 it becomes like I would maybe a little add and 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.399 so it's like, but most people don't make it to 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.760 that point exactly. They're not disciplined enough to realize, like 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.760 Rome wasn't built in one day. And you know, I 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.920 think with fitness and even a diet dude to me, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:51.840 because the hardest thing. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.240 Is d eating right. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.639 And so it's like, if you could just stick with 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.080 a diet for like ninety days a month. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.040 If you just do it, see thirty dog, You're going 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:03.879 to see it. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:04.960 Yeah, for sure, you know. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.840 And that's like that's anything thing. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.520 This Like I've lost thirty pounds since probably May Wow, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.679 just doing keto and I work out every day and 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.800 like I'm like getting like defining and getting a little 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.760 you know, I'm like fucking working out every day. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.119 But you begin to enjoy it. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.160 But it's funny too because then I also like psych 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.320 myself out because I see the results and I'm like, damn, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.760 I'm kind of getting like defined and like, but I 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.000 also I'm like, fuck, I still got a little bit 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.440 of that belly still hanging dog, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.640 Like last night, I was in my garage, like because 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.560 I have a full little gym at the crib has 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.919 in my garage, like lifting wights in the mirror, and 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.760 I bent over to pick up a weight and I 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.120 looked over, I saw my belly and I. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.360 Was like, fuck the hardest. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.439 I I got more shit, I got more work to do, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.800 you know. And then I was like damn, like because 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:53.720 I don't eat sugar anymore or carbs, and I was 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.639 but I do drink a ton of energy drinks and 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:04.280 I drink but I have like at least at least 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.399 five diet cokes a week. Okay, but I feel like 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.400 but I feel like when I'm looking at my belly, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:10.960 I'm like, man, maybe I just need to go straight 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.560 water dog for like six months, Like I gotta stop 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.200 fucking with these energy drinks and maybe I just need 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.600 to just do water. I'm like, that belly shit bothers 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.360 me because I'm like, damn, I've been doing so yeah, 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.800 And I'm like you know, I'm getting a lot stronger, 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.480 like you know, but but but it's always there's always 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:26.800 work to be done. So what did you do? And 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.720 obviously you change your diet? Right, But then the triple 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.639 og guy who I got to meet, he's got a 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:36.159 big fitness page. He's like in the backyard doing burpes, like, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.800 don't be a fucking pussy yelling at you. And so 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.120 what was like your regiment that you started to do that? 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.040 Like, it's it's not even the workout, dog, it's back 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.280 to the diet food. It's that if you can cut 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.119 out you're already cutting the sugar out, the carbs out, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.840 it's the it's the fats with it too, in the 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.439 amount of protein that you're getting. It's a science. Dog Like, 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.160 once he broke it down to me, everyone always goes, dog, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:03.879 I don't want to go on a diet because I 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.520 don't want to lose my strength. Well, bro, the minute 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.440 you go on a diet and lose your body fat 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.400 is then when you could start becoming to look really union, 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.560 you know. So it was just about cutting out my fat, 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.879 dog Like, I went from probably twenty four percent body 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.200 fat to five point four percent. 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.920 And that was you like you were still being able 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.560 to eat carbs though, like brown rice, so. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.000 Very little, very little, you're talking about it maybe a 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:29.400 cup of. 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:34.160 Day, right, But and so from there you would high protein. 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:39.040 High protein, low calorie, low carb, low fat, done bro, 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.520 no sugar. It's that simple, bro. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.240 And then what about what about your like how many days. 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.400 I'm working six five, six days a week and it's 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.679 really just high intensity, low weight, high rep bro, Like 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.200 none of this. I'm the strongest in the gym, bolt, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.119 none of that, Bro. Just your heart needs to keep You. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.280 Got to keep your heart ring for sure, Like I 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.200 always will do like if I'm working out I'll do 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.800 jump rope in between each set because I'm in my garage. 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:03.520 I don't give a fuck. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:04.880 Yeah it doesn't. You're not in the gym. 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:06.320 Yeah, I'm not in the gym, like, hold on god. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.159 So like in my garage, I'm just killing you know 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:08.520 what I mean? 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:08.880 Yeah? 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.719 So you and I see you do burpies and all that. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.919 Yeah, so it's like if you're doing curls, bro, do 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.000 your curls and that thirty second break, dog, do burpies, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.800 do pushups, do sit ups, do jump. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.520 Keep your heart and then really, if you do that. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.560 You really need to do thirty minutes, and you can 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.040 do that cardio, because that's cardio. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.080 If you can do that thirty minutes straight and keep 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.880 your fucking heart rate that high for thirty minutes, Bro, 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.560 there's no excuse. You got the time you're yeah, yeah, no, 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.960 it's crazy. So when are you going to start? Obviously 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:35.360 said in a few weeks you're gonna drop the record 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:36.680 at Rowdy're like, what are you going to start rolling 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:37.560 out some of the new stuff? 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.400 I just rolled out the last project without being stills. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.960 I'm going to wait about three four weeks, dog drop 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:48.200 the Rowdy single, drop this project off of the Rowdy single, 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.040 and then boom. 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.679 Now that Rowdy's dope. Dude. 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.080 Oh yeah, he's very very talented. Yeah, man, bro, and 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.679 not only just the rapping bro, he's a very smart, humble, 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.399 and intelligent person. When we got him on our podcast, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.440 you can just tell. 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.280 Bro no, when we when we had him on the show, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:08.679 I don't know what to think of the guy. You know, 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:10.720 I just liked him as I heard the record he 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.560 had with Dres and the record he had with Sugar Free, 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.120 and I was like, I like the way this dude 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.280 raps like he's fire. But then talking to him, I 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.200 was like, Oh, this dude's like like you said, he's 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.840 like a he's got a really great career ahead of him. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.600 He does Bro, and good people around him, Bro, for sure. 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.080 You know he's got old trow Bro, he's got his 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.000 you know, his team. You know, Triple Og is from 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.960 that same cloth, in same hood. Like, there's a lot 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.240 of good people that you could look up to. Bro. 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.840 That's the difference. That's how people are gonna excel and 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.760 go to the next level. Who's around you, who's helping 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.960 you navigate through this? Fuck the bullshit? Bro? 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.440 Would you say that because you're kind of an og? Now? Yeah? 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.280 I feel like it's like you and yb out there 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.480 are like the ogs of the of the SGUV. Yeah 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:55.320 do you feel that? 0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:00.000 I mean I do because of how I move around 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:00.720 my city. 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:01.000 Dog. 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:05.720 It's it's not about age, bro, because I know forty 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.920 five year olds that look twenty five, you know, yeah sure, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.639 And I know twenty five that look forty five for sure. Like, 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.160 it's not about it's about how you move and what 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.920 have you been putting out? Dog, I got multiple businesses 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.040 in the city. I've employed kids that were going to college. 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.480 I've done it all there though, So when you think 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.840 of high tone, you think about OG because of what 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.680 I've done in the city, right, you know, And that's 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.919 what I consider an OG to me. Like, for sure, 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:35.480 someone that's just paved the way. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.720 Bro, I'm thirty seven, and there are people who I'm 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.480 their OG, but they're like ten years older. 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.920 Because they're learning something from you. You brought something else, sure, 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.920 you know, So whoever's listening dog OG and age dog, 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.080 It's about the wisdom you have, who you surrounded yourself with, 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.640 and what accolades you have that that keep your name 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.360 and last name strong. Dog. It ain't how dope you 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.600 wrap it ain't, bro, it's what does that last name hold? 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.880 Right when you're gone, Bro, what are they gonna say 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:06.520 about you? 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.960 Right? You know? Yo, you were one of the earlier artists. 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.040 I remember being pretty vulnerable on records when it came 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:19.240 to like your addiction with pills. Yeah, depression, depression and 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:20.400 mental health and all that. 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:21.520 No one was doing that. 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.600 Nobody was doing that. And like fast forward to twenty 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.800 twenty four and like the issues that you were dealing 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.919 with have become obviously a fucking nationwide worldwide pandemic, right Like, 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.320 this is like kind of like the fuck covid, Like 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.320 that's the real pandemic of our time is fucking opiates, 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:42.199 you know, And so I wonder just for you, like 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.199 is it is it? I mean, obviously you stopped doing 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.520 drugs at the right time because fetanohl. Oh yeah, fetanyl 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:49.359 hadn't hit yet. 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:54.200 I probably Yeah. The amount of drugs, bro, that I've 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.679 done in my life. Bro, Like if the fentanyl you know, 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.919 epidemic was was then, Bro, it would be a fifty 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:01.720 Like it's. 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.520 To Yeah, It's like we're playing roulette with your life. 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.000 Every time and even still to this day, bro, Like 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.840 that ain't nobody perfect. Dog, there's times where you know, 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.960 you fall back into some of the things you said 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.080 you were never gonna do, dog in just it's just 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.360 Russian roulette right now, Dog, for sure. 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.600 I was gonna say for you though, like do you 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:24.399 feel like your you know, like you said you were 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.080 kind of one of the first artists that I remember 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.040 kind of talking about that outwardly. Is any of the 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:30.520 new music kind of touched on any of that? And 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.080 I'm sure you've dealt with people close to you maybe 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.160 losing their life or being wrapped up in what's going 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:37.720 on right now. 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:41.000 Yeah, I mean I have a sister that's you know, 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.680 in and out of addiction, you know, rehabs, things like that. 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.520 I mean, I've had family members, I've had homies at. 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.440 Od like I feel like everyone has now. 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.679 It's it's very more common than it was back in 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.680 the day. Dog. You know, it just is. Bro. I 0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:01.320 don't know what that why that is, but you know 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.880 it's just. I mean, I touch on it all the time, Bro, 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.000 I even touch on it when I say, man, I'm 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.280 doing this and I know I'm not supposed to. Dog Like. 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.520 That's how real and honest I am with my music, 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:19.919 Like Homie like, I still fuck up right, I still 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.399 do things that I shouldn't be doing, dog Like. I 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.440 still fall back into my old ways, Bro, But that's life. 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:27.399 Dog for sure. 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.160 That was perfect. I ain't nobody perfect, dog, And I 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.840 hate to, like, you know, say, hey, Bro, I did 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:37.160 that in twenty sixteen and I stopped and I never 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.200 did it again. Bro, that's just not gonna be it. 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:39.760 Right. 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.320 It's something in me, Bro, like you know pop soules 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.600 an alcoholic bro Like, it's sometimes just in you, bro, 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.040 And thank god, I'm not the type of person that 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.560 gets easily addicted to things. And I know that when 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.639 something gets a hold of me. Dog, it could be 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.560 as simple as this, And I do this every month, Dog, 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.320 something that I feel that is taking control of me. 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.359 I nip it in the butt and say, you're not 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.600 doing that for a whole month. So it could be 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.760 a fun it could be poorn. Dog, I can be 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:11.640 like a dog. 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.440 Like I watch a lot of porn. 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:18.120 I'm watching too much, like what something's not right too much? 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.800 And people don't, I mean, people don't admit that's a 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.240 thing that can you. I mean it can affect your 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.439 relationship one percent. So then I'll sit here and go, Okay, 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.600 I'm doing this a little too much. Dog, tone you're not, don't. 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.360 You're not even allowed to do that for thirty days. 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.600 Yeah, And when you start like building your life around 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.080 that way, like it could be a coffee don't control 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.000 me either, dog, I'm not going to have an energy 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.639 drink for five days. 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:41.880 Dog. 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.719 Like you challenge your mind every week, Dog with something 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.280 that you think is controlling you. And if you can 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:52.120 like master that, your life will be a lot easier. Bro, 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.760 because there's nothing that's going to control you, not real 0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.280 you're like training your own problems. 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.639 Like and it's almost also even if you feel like 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.280 you're going down a certain path like mentally like figure 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.920 out like try to be self aware enough to know. 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.600 Well, that's the start of everything. Dog, if you actually 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.399 sit here and go, I have a problem, that's the 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.840 number one start to everything. It's being honest with yourself. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.520 Holding yourself accountable. There you go, yeah, because you go. 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.080 As you know, most people who are bad with drugs, 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.919 family members get frustrated because you're telling them, But it 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.080 doesn't matter if they are not acknowledging it themselves, you 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:33.480 know what I mean, Like you're just talking to a 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:34.800 fucking brick wall. At that point, you. 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.560 Know they will never get help, bro unless they want it. 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.920 How was getting married and how is being married change 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:42.400 your life? 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.040 I mean I've been with her what eighteen nineteen years? 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:46.840 We were together? 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:48.640 Yeah, but when you put a ring on that thing, 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.680 it changes things because they what you guys get Because look, man, 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.920 I've been in relationships, a specific relationship where we were 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.200 married for a very long time and then motherfuckers will 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.560 fight and then well once you fight, you could leave, 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.120 you know, go fuck off. Now once you're married, it's like, 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.000 well we can't go nowhere. 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.320 Well yeah, and you're not really gonna go and say, 0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.760 you know, but it I think it just holds your 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.560 you know, you'd be way more responsible, bro, like you 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.440 think about Hey, bro, this isn't just my chick, this 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.640 ain't my lady. It's my wife. 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:20.920 Dog. 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.520 So with that word husband and wife come with a 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.800 lot more responsibility. Doesn't mean it's going to be pretty 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.080 and easy, dogs, you know. 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.640 Never it is. But everyone you know, marriage is one 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.200 of the hardest things in the world. 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.760 I think it. You're absolutely right, dog. 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.000 And people don't understand it. And and the thing is 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.000 is it's supposed to be hard. Hey, you're making it 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.000 as a musician. Was hard. Anything that's worth it, it's hard. 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:47.960 It's not supposed to be easy, dog Like at the 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.640 end of the day, like it is what it is like. 0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.680 But I trip out on that, like you just said, Like, 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.720 the fools that I look up to and the fools 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.800 that I get a lot of my wisdom from are 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.040 homies that are married, dog, that have been with their 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.920 ladies fifteen years man, Right, why do you look up 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:11.080 to older people that because they know what you're about 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.360 to enter and what you're gonna go through. They've already 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.800 been there and did that. Sure, And it's most of 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.800 the time it's a married couple because they've learned so 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.440 much during that time. Bro. And it took a lot 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:27.400 of fight to stay together. Bro Right, because this world nowadays, Dog, 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.720 I see a girl on Instagram, she's at dinner on 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.920 a trip. Three days later, you know that the pictures 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.080 are deleted. She's on a new trip. Oh, Like you're 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.840 talking recycling all day long. This is just the new generation. Bro. 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.080 Oh, Yeah, it'd be tough, dude. If I wasn't with 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.800 my wife right now, I don't even know the amount 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.480 of like just fuck shit I would be participating in. 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.240 It would be it would be maybe terrible, honestly, you know, 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.640 And like that kind of shit feels like it's like 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.720 low hanging fruit shit, Like it's cool, but it's like 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.120 I can only image imagine what the shallow brained women 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.920 that our generation is producing. And I do mean that 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:06.880 with all due respect. Not all women are shallow brained, 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.240 but not all A lot a lot that the algorithm 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.680 feeds you. Yeah, you're like, there's no way every bitch 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:14.400 has a BBL. 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.040 But but that's what in your clone. 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.360 You're like, Jesus damn, why do these girls get money 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.240 to go on all these tricks? Oh, they're all just glorified. 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.200 Prostitutes, bro, glorified. Bro. 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.000 It's like you're you're a prostitute. You just don't want 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:28.960 to say it, and that's fine. 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.440 Yeah, it's just it's it's not in your bio yet. 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.600 Yeah, but like you're a prostitute and it's okay, But 0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:35.440 that's what you're doing. 0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.960 Bro. It's just it's the music. Bro, It's the way 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.200 the world is working right now. It's unbelievable. Dog, Yeah, 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.280 it's unbelievable. Bro. It's it starts from the music the movies, 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.440 like and you can't get away from a dog because 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.160 we knew what we were watching as kids. But you 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.480 realize why things are going the way they are. 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.600 You know what, when we were younger, it was a 0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:00.680 lot easier to turn it off, right, Bro. You didn't 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.000 have a cell phone like this, That's what I mean. 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.080 Now it's you can't turn it off. Like I just 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:05.600 saw you posted that you turned your phone off. 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.560 Yesterday For the first time in my whole life, like 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:08.200 that for real? 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.960 How was that? It was for twenty four hours. 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.880 I literally text Stills on the way I say, hey, homie, 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.560 have you ever tried that? He's like nah, But I 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.040 was disgusted with my phone last night too. I'm like, Bro. 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.880 For some reason, when I opened up the Gramm in 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.480 the morning, and I don't know if it was because 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.560 I had drank the night before or I was a 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.040 little hung it was disgusting to me, doog And it 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.760 was like the weirdest thing that every five minutes in 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.320 the movie, I would go and look at nothing. But 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.520 I'm so trained to just go like. 0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.440 This tells me I do that shit all the time. 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.120 And it was like, bro, shut it off. I put 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.960 it under the pillow, Bro, And I'd like, and if. 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.960 You really just just look at your screen time every 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:53.240 day like that shit will really make you be like fuck, 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.440 Like I spend more time looking at this than I 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:57.920 do anything else in my life. Life. 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.760 That's sad, bro, But it's it's just how could you 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.080 get away from it? Exactly? 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.000 Yeah, it's it's crazy, but but it is an addiction. 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.440 The algorithm, the swiping, Like what on board? I'm just 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.760 gonna open Instagram because that's what I do like this, Yeah, 0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.000 or Twitter, whatever. 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.360 Whatever it is, it's called Twitter. Yeah, you can barely 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.760 go on that anymore. 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.080 Twitter's a wild place. I had to unfollow all the 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.440 porn stars because my Twitter, I could never open it 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:25.960 in front of my. 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.960 No, it's your suggested feet is straight porn. 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:31.880 What mine isn't anymore? 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:33.120 Mine still is. 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.880 But dude, dude, I used to get to the point 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.840 where I would open my Twitter like I'd opened up 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.040 my laptop and I open Twitter, and I was like, 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.640 I can't. I can't open Twitter in front of my 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.240 wife because she's gonna judge me, because it's just bitch 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:47.880 is getting fucked all over my feet. 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.040 Bro, this happened to me last night. You know, I'm 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:55.360 trip the fuck out. So we got lit. She left 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:59.000 her phone in the car and went upstairs and fell asleep, right, 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.080 and we had an early day movies or started drinking whatever. 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.920 We're home early eight o'clock. She had woken up about 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.959 midnight and she was fumbling around for her phone. Right, 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.520 I'm knocked the fuck out. She gets my phone to 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.640 call her phone, opens it up, and I had just 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.600 so happened to have Twitter on when she had knocked out, 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.720 so it's a wide open dog. So she was like, babe, 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.400 wake up, I need to find my phone whatever. And 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.600 then she found her phone, and right when she settled 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.920 back down, she goes, and why do you have all 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.240 kind of porn on Twitter? I knew you were a creep. 0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.000 Bro. I remember one time I was out of town. 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.960 I was in Miami, and you know, my wife is 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:42.320 she doesn't go through my phone, and but but she 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:47.880 she went on my I don't know, she was tripping 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.359 at the time. It was one of them time. 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:50.760 Yeah, it just happened. 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.400 Yeah, And so from wherever we were, she went on 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.600 my Twitter and looked at who I was following. Yeah, 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.040 it was my Twitter, and she saw I was following 0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.799 like hun of porn stars and she was like, yoh, 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.120 what the fuck is wrong with you? Like who are you? 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.279 And I was like, yo, you gotta understand, like I've 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:09.960 probably been following most of those the cows for like 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.560 ten years, and like you know, when you get a Twitter, 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.239 you just follow all the porn bitches like trying to 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.120 go through a cleanse all of my. 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.680 pH and got it. I gotta do that, bro. 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.120 No Twitter is fucking wild. 0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.319 Bro, I gotta do that, bro, because and then the. 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.120 Other thing is like getting in the habit of like 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.560 when you're on Instagram, Like, dude, Instagram starting to feed 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.360 you wild shit even if you're not following them, Like dude, 0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.120 you've seen like they're pushing porn pages on you on 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.520 ig like bitches with their camelton. I'm like, yes, I'm 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:37.960 blocking that. 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.760 Now there's nipples now, it's crazy. 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.600 It's crazy, and I'm like, yo, I don't even follow those. 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.360 Like if you look at my explore, it used to 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:50.759 be just women women right now it's it's it's it's 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:59.320 literally cars, podcasts, uh, wrestling, no bitches, Like there's no bitches, 0:35:59.360 --> 0:35:59.960 but it used to be. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:06.000 So you can actually like like cleanse your algorithm. 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:06.719 I've done it. 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:12.640 Yeah, So that means deleting, unfollowing, unfollowing the things you 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:13.399 really want to see. 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.600 You just got to stop following these bitches. Dog, It's tough, 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.479 but like, you got to stop following these bitches, man. 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.839 Like at the end of the day, you don't want 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:27.440 to double tap. You want to double tap, but you can't, man. 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.600 I'm legendary for double tap. 0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:33.480 I bet, but you can't because because then this is 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.759 what the algorithm feature. Bro, I'm telling you my for 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:41.319 you was only whores for like a decade and now 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.520 it's just you know whatever. 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.959 Bro, You're on a good path right now, bro, dog. 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.759 Yeah. So it's like so it's like now it's like 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.839 my Twitter's like that too. So my Twitter's like new 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:54.520 ship sports news, you know, fucking the far left and 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.640 the far right at this point, Like fuck, when I'm 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.959 on Twitter, I'm like, Jesus, I just feel like I'm while, yes, 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.280 but but I don't see porn really on Twitter anymore. 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.200 Yeah, I got it. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:11.640 little thing is a cleansing you. I'll start on my Twitter, 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:12.360 Yeah you got. 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.240 I mean yeah, that's the place to start. Twitter's fucked 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:14.640 for sure. 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:15.560 I don't start. 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.400 So for people who like, like, do you have a 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.000 tattoo shop or do you tattoo at the like appointment only? 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:22.440 Like what do you do? 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.359 It's a it's appointment only, bro. We have our our 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.279 shoe store and clothing store in the front, and then 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.279 we have two private studios in the back. I've been 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.279 with my boy King Lazy for damn near a decade now. 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.920 We've been working together he has his own room. I 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.759 have mine. He could watch what he wants. I could 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.600 listen to what I want. Our clients are separate, what. 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:48.080 Kind of like a consignment sneaker shop or kind of everything. 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:52.239 Yeah, we do all the like consignment, bisle trade. You know. 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.800 It used to just be all TFC for about seven years. 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.920 Dog was just my brand in there. After COVID, I 0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.040 went to online own made it a lot easier for 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:02.799 me Dog you know. 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.240 Yeah, I noticed there's a guy from Glendale named Armeene. 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.799 He's an Armenian rapper and he has he had a 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.960 store in the line, but he was like after COVID, 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:12.960 he was like, we still have our stuff here, but 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.120 like we want to start selling sneakers. We got to 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.359 expand the business a little bit, you know, because there's 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.400 only so much you could do with your fans facts, 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:20.640 you know. 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.600 And luckily bro I was able to create some that 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.359 that didn't really like. Yeah, people know my brand from 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.360 my music a lot of it. But then there's people 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.319 that just know your brand, don't even like rap that 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.279 have the pyramid tattern on it right because of what 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:38.280 it stands for. Like, I was able to to create 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.440 something that's bigger than rap, bigger than high tone, bigger 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.640 than the SGV, bigger than It's a state of mind? 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.520 Bro, what you working with Tori? What was that like 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.440 and that what are your I mean, I still don't 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.399 think we know exactly what happened that night with him, 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.319 But you know, I had a good relationship with Tory 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.080 still do. I talked to him while he was in jail. 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.799 I don't know, maybe months ago. Uh. I know him 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.400 to be a good guy. Yeah, but you were working 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.920 with him pretty I mean, I mean he's he's in 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.759 for people wh don't know. He's a fucking quadruple G. 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.799 But that was around the time it started to kind 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.200 of turn for him commercially. Yeah, he did that record 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.200 on that on that Ygy. 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:22.600 Album, And I mean we caught him just at the 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.239 perfect time, bro. You know, like even when we were 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.440 going to radio because that I went to radio with 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:33.320 that record, bro, and it wasn't like having a crazy 0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.759 big like people weren't like, oh we're playing this record 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.880 because you got to like fairly nude. Bro. It was 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.320 like it was almost like two new artists on the 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:42.839 same record, right, you. 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.239 Know, are you on the road with Brian Sampson at all. Yeah, 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.600 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:50.879 I went in and out of fucking dog his damn bro. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.719 What was it like being on the road with that 0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:53.839 fat Filipino. Fuck? 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.239 Yeah, there's there's there was, there was some you know, 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:00.440 there was some good times. 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:02.399 Brian manages my radio show. 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.360 I don't fucking I have a bad taste when it 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:09.040 comes to radio. Dog. It's I've lost a ship ton 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:10.919 of money dependent money dog life. 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.880 You're talking radio because you think. 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.560 Hundred thousand, you know, six figure cash, bro, that I've 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:18.759 with my own money. 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.200 About radio, right, is a couple of things. One, if 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.640 you're independent, don't worry about it, don't even try it. 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:31.759 It's expensive. Two, it is the final step of your career. No, 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.160 it's a final step of like let's say you got 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.360 a record and it starts to go crazy on TikTok 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.400 and final stream. The last thing you worry about in 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.200 that equation is radio. It's the very last thing. It 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:47.799 is a very competitive business. You are competing in every 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.120 whatever market station it is. You're competing for a spot 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.560 on that playlist with whoever is hot at the time, 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.520 and it's it's just it is. It is an important 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.960 step in the process. If you want to be a superstar, 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:03.839 if you want a number one on Billboard, you gotta 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.400 have radio play. But it is not necessary. And if 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.480 you're an independent artist, if someone tries to crack you 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.719 upside the head for thirty grand to work a record 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.719 of radio, take that thirty thousand dollars and shoot fucking 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:16.120 twenty music video. 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.600 Yes, hey, man, bro do literally anything. 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:19.960 Huh. 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:24.560 I've ran. I mean, I'm glad dog that I've had 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.520 the opportunity to like understand it, because most don't even 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.760 understand broke. A regular consumer listener, they have no idea 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.680 what radio is. Most artists, bro don't really know how 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:38.400 radio works. 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.799 And most artists think that like if someone plays you 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.280 one time on like a Sunday night at like PM, 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.160 it's not going to change their career. And it's like, dude, 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.359 like that's not how the shit works anymore. Now, maybe 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.440 you know, fifteen years ago, ten years ago, radio had 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.839 a lot more I would say fifteen years ago, radio 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.840 had a lot more ability to break an artist. But 0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.520 now we're the last step in that development. Yeah, you know. 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.680 I like how you said that last step though, because 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.440 I think people need to hear that artists need to 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:09.160 hear that like the last step to worry about because fans, bro, 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.960 like the first thing they do is go, man, bro, like, 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.880 your music is so much better than what's on the red. 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.360 Like you don't realize, dog, it's not what you think 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:19.000 it's not. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.080 And you'll know if it's time to go to the 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:26.879 radio it because if your shit is that hot organically, 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:31.960 you'll probably start getting some love locally, actually if it. 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.120 And and that's because you're going to force that. And 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:35.560 then and then you're like, okay, well maybe we need 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:40.319 to explore this. But even then your ROI as an 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:45.640 independent artist on a radio promotional run, it's just not there, dude. 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.920 Look at the end of the day, a million streams 0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:53.799 is thirty eight hundred dollars and some change, man. And 0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.359 and you know, if you're not using your music as 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.360 the vessel to monetize everything else outside of what is 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:03.400 uploaded to disjoc kid or em buyer whatever, then you're fucked. 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.200 Because it can't just be the or unless you're a 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.840 high catalog artist, you know, but it can't just be 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.000 I put an album out and then I'm hoping that 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.280 lightning strikes and it goes crazy. 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.440 No. I mean, if there's any advice BRO to people 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:21.800 out there that are, you know, just starting out music 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.560 even been in the game for a few years, still 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:27.200 trying to learn the business. Like you're building a brand, Bro. 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:28.640 If you can't build. 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.440 It and then you can monetize the brand, If. 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:34.080 You can build a brand and businesses around your name, 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.680 then it Then the music is the It's the driving 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.000 vessel because when you're hot and when you're. 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.120 Doing you know, it's like it's the vehicle. 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.800 But you gotta your hands, gotta be indifferent. 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.480 You gotta start businesses, you gotta go on do shows, 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.520 you gotta there's just it's got to be the vessel 0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.399 to everything else exactly. And like you know, you might 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.759 win the lottery and catch a real hit and then 0:43:59.040 --> 0:43:59.720 it's that's. 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:01.480 Good too, that's amazing. 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.719 So your EP with LB and Steals is out, and 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.680 then you have you say, the new record with Rody 0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.000 Racks coming out two or three weeks. 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.279 Yeah, you got to we're just trying to shoot the 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.360 video for that first, because I've always I've done that, 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.560 bro multiple times. Or you drop the record, Oh, we're 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.359 gonna do the video and then the video don't happen 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:20.919 for three four months and now it's over. 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:21.440 Then it's over. 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.000 Yeah, you gotta have the assets in your hand nowadays, dog, 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:29.320 because the attention span is so so just quick. 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:31.760 And then the album's coming soon after. 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.360 Yeah, I'm just doing once you hear the first single 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.840 to whatever project, the project will drop in four weeks 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:37.160 after that. 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.239 And then the podcast is on. 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.760 Thursdays, No Lames podcast, g Money Rocky. 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:44.800 That g Money guy's hilarious. 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.640 He's a food that he's got a stand up coming up. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.320 He's gonna open up for George Perez. We're also locking 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.160 in the date for another sold out Laugh Factory show. 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.040 Yeah, you did that as a podcast. 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.879 Yeah, we did three back to three shows, sold out. 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.319 Kind of did something that no one's done. Bro Cup 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.840 comedy podcast and music, and I always performed the set off. 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.400 I think it's cool too, because you guys really have 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:14.000 your You guys really have your fucking area on lock bro, 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.560 like your community supports the fuck out of y'all for real. 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:20.279 Over there, I'm actually opening up a new business with 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:24.680 my wife on the same street of Lap Factory in 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:30.000 downtown Covina called the South Caro Lounge and it's it's 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.240 a med spall. We're gonna be doing medical weight loss, 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.520 We're gonna be doing ivy drips, We're gonna be doing 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.200 body contouring, lashing. I mean, we're doing it all there. 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:39.399 Bro. 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:41.680 I've been working on it for the last six months. 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:45.120 Construction got done this week and we're gonna start cosmetic 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.759 next week and we should be open like second week 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:48.360 of September. 0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.560 Bro, congrats, dude, that's what you gotta do. Hey, By 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.680 the way, that street was kind of lit. I went 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.040 there to see concrete the night after I think we 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.800 did the pod of Oh yeah, but yeah. I didn't 0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.880 realize like it was such a big biker area. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:01.759 They put a lot of money into it. 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.600 No, because like you go to the bars and there's 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.560 like signs that say, you know, bikers. 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.480 Oh no colors, and I was like, oh ship. 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.520 I didn't realize it was so lit over here with 0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:11.400 the biker culture. 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:15.759 It's it's pretty lital Covena is lit because it's the 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:20.800 only city in the SGV that really has no solidified hood, 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:26.160 So Covina has no hood. That's where people West Covina 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:34.440 does went the Bassett because everyone goes and then the 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:40.759 problems because there's no one that's like a it's kind 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:41.160 of open. 0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:41.560 Ah. 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.640 So growing up in that area, I've always navigated through 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.239 those situations, dog, you know, like I tattooing, No people 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.799 from every hood in the SGV, like Covina. It's just 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.880 been my my city, dog, and I've been able to 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.840 just navigate and you know, play both sides. 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.080 And you're from Covina as like that's your city, that's 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.239 Kobina born and raised. That's amazing, man. Well look, new 0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:04.920 music on the. 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.160 Way, Yeah, new music on the way. If you need 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.719 a tattoo, tattoo, you know, I might need to get 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:10.279 tatted from you. 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.040 Man. All my tattoos are under my shirt. I need 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:14.520 to get my back finished the real way. 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.799 That's to hurt though. Yeah, but yeah, tats music, you know, 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.520 new businesses. We're just trying to elevate, bro, That's all 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.759 I'm trying to do, man, Stay healthy, elevate, live a 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.200 good life, pay some bills, have a little fun, bro, 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.960 And that's well you're doing a good job buddy. Thank you, Bro. 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:29.920 I appreciate you pulling up man. I look forward to 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.880 the new music and I look forward to the five 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:33.040 albums coming. 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.160 Who ones already, so we got four four. 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:35.840 Four more left. 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:36.160 There. 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.640 It is my guy, high Toned boule Cab podcast boom