WEBVTT - Episode 31 - Maren Morris (1-12-17)

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Welcome to episode thirty one of the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this the first one, first second one of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, right, second of year. Marion Morris is here. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>May finally, good to have you at the house, beautiful house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks. I put you off for a while because

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<v Speaker 1>you're too good to come in for a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, I don't know about interview, Stal, but I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to hold off because it was

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<v Speaker 1>right when you were blowing up and this last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's weird because I want to go back for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. But this last year feels like it has

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<v Speaker 1>been a tornado of just the tornado of Marion. Does

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<v Speaker 1>it feel like that to you as well? Yeah? It does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm still processing, even after the holidays, still processing

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<v Speaker 1>everything that had happened last year because it is too

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<v Speaker 1>many things I think to be in one window of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I yeah, my my head is still getting wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>around everything, especially towards the end of the year. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like so much crazy stuff happened. If we were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in these chairs a year ago today, so January

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<v Speaker 1>of and I would say, hey, what is your goal

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<v Speaker 1>this year? Like a year ago, what would you have

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<v Speaker 1>said your goal was a year ago? Well, a year ago, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just put Church out like it had just gone

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<v Speaker 1>to radio. So that's just like a crazy concept. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my hope a year ago was I hope

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<v Speaker 1>people like my music enough for me to put this

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<v Speaker 1>record out, because it's all really contingent on that um.

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<v Speaker 1>And luckily, you know, people really responded to my Church,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had Hero already waiting in the wings, and

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<v Speaker 1>once it started to pick up traction, Um, we got

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<v Speaker 1>an album at date and that was just an album. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>Even to get an album for a new artist in

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<v Speaker 1>the land of EPs first where they'll put out four

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<v Speaker 1>or five songs kind of and you did that, but yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but to get an album, that's a big deal because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a commitment financially from a record label. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a very big deal. And I've had so

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<v Speaker 1>many friends in this town that have had record deals

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<v Speaker 1>where they're so good and they've made these full records,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they get shelved and they never come out

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<v Speaker 1>or see the light of day. So there's always that

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<v Speaker 1>fear that like, oh, of this doesn't get bought enough

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<v Speaker 1>or spun enough on the radio, I won't get to

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<v Speaker 1>share the larger story, the whole story with everyone. And

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, I'm very lucky that that did not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But um yeah, I was just I had I had

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<v Speaker 1>already basically had most of the album done before I

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<v Speaker 1>signed my label deal, so it was sitting for a

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<v Speaker 1>while and I was just like, Okay, my church is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the first hello to the universe, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, um was that part of the deal when

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<v Speaker 1>you signed with the label, like I'm coming and I

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<v Speaker 1>want this to be the first song because you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of negotiating power if you're coming with

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<v Speaker 1>music and uh success digitally like you had. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be developed or anything. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of baby artists they have to they're signed, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't do these deals so much anymore because it's just not,

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<v Speaker 1>um financially great for the label anymore. But um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are already developed and you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>concept and you're just really solid in your artist rye,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be told what to do or

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<v Speaker 1>what to where, or how to speak or how to sound.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, it's a much less riskier um investment for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So my Church was going to be your first single

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<v Speaker 1>before you signed with anyone in your mind? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the day I wrote it, I kind of knew

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<v Speaker 1>that was the one. So what if you would have said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here and they're like, you know, we're gonna hold off,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go with drunk girls, don't cry, or they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually not drunk roles. They wanted to lead with eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>My label was like, I think we should hold off

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<v Speaker 1>on My Church. Um, I think it was so long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it was so long ago. But their

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<v Speaker 1>reason was they they felt like that was the ace

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<v Speaker 1>up their sleeve and they wanted to throw it out

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<v Speaker 1>later and just get the like the party song out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. You know a lot of artists, like

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<v Speaker 1>their labels do that where they'll put the the fun,

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<v Speaker 1>good time song out and then okay, now people know

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, Now we can show them how credible

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<v Speaker 1>you are with this song. And um, I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like I wanted to go that route because

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't make sense to me. I was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>honestly the odds are against me, I'm a new artist

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a girl. So if I'm going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out with one and one only because this could very

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<v Speaker 1>easily die, Um, I'm going to do the song that

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<v Speaker 1>means the most to me and says all I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say if I only got one shot with a song.

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<v Speaker 1>So a year ago, I say, Okay, what's your goal

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<v Speaker 1>this year? Um? I think what we're here one year

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<v Speaker 1>ago right now, Mary, and what's your goal this year?

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're a brand new Warters, you get nothing. Song

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<v Speaker 1>just came out, like, what's your goal this year? I

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<v Speaker 1>think my goal was just for people to understand my

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<v Speaker 1>perspective because I don't know. I that sounds very vague,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just wanted to, I guess, test the waters

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<v Speaker 1>and see if you know, just being an artist was

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<v Speaker 1>even going to be working for anyone outside of my

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<v Speaker 1>own head. It's like, ah, and I hate to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put so much stock into what others think, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that that's what you do. It's like your music,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reason you write it is so other people

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to it and have that experience with you

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<v Speaker 1>and as a human being. And so I just hoped

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago, God, I I hope someone likes this.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, but I hope someone else gets it too.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your perspective if you say you wanted your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective out there, I don't know. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>what I was missing from music, especially like from the

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<v Speaker 1>female outlook, was just um an independence. And I I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to be like a dude basher by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>I adore love songs and I've written hundreds of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just at the time of this record

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<v Speaker 1>being written, I wasn't really in love. I was coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of a really bad relationship, and um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>as a woman, I just wanted to be inspired when

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<v Speaker 1>I turned the radio on and here like a woman

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<v Speaker 1>singing back to me, not about a relationship for once.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's and that's fine if they are, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the diversity is sort of lacking where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, well we do have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more to talk about here. I mean, dang, like talk

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<v Speaker 1>about getting drunk or or a fight you had with

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<v Speaker 1>your mom or something. It's just like a real life

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<v Speaker 1>experience instead of always chasing the guy down. And I just, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I I was obviously was like very bitter back then

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that, but I still think that today, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship with someone I really love and gets

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing and isn't threatened by a powerful women

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<v Speaker 1>or strength or success. I still crave that perspective from

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<v Speaker 1>a female, um, where it's just not about love, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be about anything. Um yeah, I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective I wanted to bring to the table is um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not like I don't have my sight

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<v Speaker 1>set on marriage or like having a baby right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm in my mid twenties and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really special time because uh the generational pull from like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when my mom was my age, she when

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<v Speaker 1>she was my age now she already had a five

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<v Speaker 1>year old me and I it's bizarre to think about

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<v Speaker 1>that now. But I just didn't. I didn't. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm rambling. I I just want to do all

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<v Speaker 1>you want of Um yeah, I just I forget where

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<v Speaker 1>I was going. I feel like I led myself down

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<v Speaker 1>a rabbit trail. But um yeah, I just I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's the perspective I was craving and the perspective

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was bringing at the table. You're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you, and you are getting it now

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of females, even mails that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>use you as something in their life to aim toward

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<v Speaker 1>or to have you as a peer. Who for you

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<v Speaker 1>are those important peers that have kind of put you

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<v Speaker 1>in the place where you are now. Yeah, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>have so many, but to sort of like rattle off

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<v Speaker 1>some like current ones that I'm like very inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean Miranda Lambert. She put out a

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<v Speaker 1>weight of these Wings and I think it's incredible. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have always really, in I guess, looked up to

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<v Speaker 1>her in a way because you know, she's like a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow Texan and she's just a badass, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing songwriter, and I feel like she's a very

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<v Speaker 1>powerful woman. But she's also not afraid to be vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>or sensitive, um and wrong. I really like her her

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<v Speaker 1>writing style. And I love Chris Stapleton, I love Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>rhet I just like I really and Sam Hunt. I

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<v Speaker 1>like people that are not afraid to be different. And

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's um, you know, being the bad guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the song, or paying tribute to traditions of the past

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<v Speaker 1>sounds in country, or paving the way for the new

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<v Speaker 1>sound because it's ever changing I'm inspired by artists that

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<v Speaker 1>are not copies of other people. Don you ever get

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<v Speaker 1>into a room and write with someone and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm writing with this person, Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is what what planted am I on? Yeah, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of those experiences, just as a songwriter who

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<v Speaker 1>a young songwriter, because I had never really had any

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<v Speaker 1>radio success as a songwriter until my Church and that

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously my own song. But um, I got into room,

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<v Speaker 1>was with like some really amazing people, and um, I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest artist I got to write with was

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie Underwood and that was like two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>or three years ago, and I would be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>she even remembers it because it was so long ago

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<v Speaker 1>and she was writing so much for that Storyteller album. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she ah, she invited me to come out

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<v Speaker 1>to her writing cabin, and I was so scared because

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<v Speaker 1>I I had never written with an artist that gigantic before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, I don't even know the drill, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've written a ton of songs, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, and I've listened to her music, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have a gist on you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>she what she wants to say. But I I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>was a sweaty palm to meeting her because that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I met her was to write she's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty disarming though, Yeah, and I'm doing a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>get to create pretty well over the last if first

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<v Speaker 1>kind of she's intimidating because she's very cool Wyatt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, she met does she not like me?

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<v Speaker 1>But then you realize she's just soft until she's not,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she's just awesome. Yeah, but she can be

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<v Speaker 1>intimidating for a second. Well, yeah, it's intimidating because I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she's I feel like she's always been famous and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like from American Idol to Jesus take the Wheel

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<v Speaker 1>to now there's really she's never had a down swing

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<v Speaker 1>in her career. Really. Um So yeah, you walk in

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh my gosh, this is like the

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<v Speaker 1>carry Underwood. And I had been around so many artists

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<v Speaker 1>as a writer, but you still get like sort of

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<v Speaker 1>jarred when you see people in person. But like after

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<v Speaker 1>a few seconds, you know she like the ice was

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<v Speaker 1>broken and she had a ton of great titles and

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and we wrote two songs that day, and um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the first Like whoa, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>in the room with this person. Were you eating off

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<v Speaker 1>of songwriting at that point? Like you're paying your bills

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<v Speaker 1>and groceries because you're writing songs. Yeah, Um that was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still in my first publishing deal. This is my

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<v Speaker 1>last year before that option, but um yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>like the first year I had my publishing deals, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, not banking by any means,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely living off of the songwriter draw. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of songwriters that come to the house too

0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and we talk and uh leey. Thomas Miller, who was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my dear friends, came and we talked for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half or so. When he said

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<v Speaker 1>to him and Chris Stapleton every other Wednesday for three

0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.240
<v Speaker 1>years wrote together for three years. Every other Wednesday, they

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<v Speaker 1>just went and wrote and that was just their thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any friends partners like that that you're

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<v Speaker 1>right with on a regular basis that you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we we just have to stay and kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>into a groove and and stay in the groove. Or

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<v Speaker 1>you call and you're like, I have something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of my partner in writing. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a few people like that because, um, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Nashville is so rich in that way.

0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can have a writing partner, but in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so collaborative that you you really do right with

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<v Speaker 1>so many people that are your favorites. So, um, Buzzby

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<v Speaker 1>is a big one for me. He uh really just

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<v Speaker 1>pulled something out of me that I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>was there when we started writing for Hero you know,

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.200
<v Speaker 1>back then, I didn't realize we were writing for my

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<v Speaker 1>future record. But um, yeah, he's incredible because he's just

0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like a freak of nature when it comes to music.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh he's an incredible like soulful singer and piano

0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:36.320
<v Speaker 1>player and um yeah, so he and he's just the best.

0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he we're sort of like an old

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<v Speaker 1>married couple when we write, like it's just the two

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<v Speaker 1>of us and we'll like start something and we won't

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<v Speaker 1>talk for the next three or four hours. He'll start

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<v Speaker 1>working on some like beat or track and building that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll be working on the lyric and melody

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, you know, with my laptop in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and then like three hours later he'll turn around

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<v Speaker 1>from his console and be like, are you ready to

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<v Speaker 1>say ing? And I'd be like, I guess, I go

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<v Speaker 1>up to the microphone. And then you know eighties Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>and that's so that's a song from YouTube that where

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<v Speaker 1>that happened where you guys sat and it kind of

0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>came together that way. Yeah, And doesn't he have like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird like back shed like Buzzby, like where you

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<v Speaker 1>work out of it and it's kind of his little space. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you walk out through his backyard and it's very quaint

0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like a little shed. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote eighties Um. And then he is based in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. So he has a Nashville and in l

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<v Speaker 1>A house. But we wrote My Church and how It's

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<v Speaker 1>Done and once for the record out in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked with Keith a lot too, which all my

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<v Speaker 1>world's collide because Keith's actually a friend of mine. And

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<v Speaker 1>and you went on tour with Keith and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching your snapchat and ended up getting picked

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<v Speaker 1>up by the blogs. But it looked like a batmobile

0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that he sent you. Yeah, I don't know that it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually a batmobile, but just like a crazy car

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<v Speaker 1>as a what was that's an auto cycle? Um it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling me. I didn't know what it was either,

0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.040
<v Speaker 1>because I thought he was kidding. Um it's a polarist

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<v Speaker 1>sling shot. What are you supposed to park that? That's

0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.240
<v Speaker 1>like you must want a dog. Like, here's your gift.

0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.560
<v Speaker 1>There's a Dalmatian. You're like, well, it's really cool about

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<v Speaker 1>what I do with it? Yeah exactly. It was one

0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of those like and just insanely generous gifts where you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh crap, like I don't have a compound to put

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<v Speaker 1>this on im, Like I don't have, um a garage,

0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like I live in East Nashville, like Inglewood. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to picture that parked in the driveway there.

0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But then everyone knows where you live too, becauseile exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go see where man lives, just check

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<v Speaker 1>out the three yor old motorcycle in the driveway. Um. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so funny the way he presented it too.

0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.880
<v Speaker 1>He like handed me this rolled up piece of paper

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<v Speaker 1>and a really sweet note on the last day of

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<v Speaker 1>the tour, which we were in Brooklyn, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, so much for being out here, and he's

0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:09.320
<v Speaker 1>just like the nicest guy. And he like had this

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 1>rolled up piece of paper and it had like a

0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.879
<v Speaker 1>ribbon around it, and I took the ribbon off and

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<v Speaker 1>like unrolled it and it's a picture of this sling

0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:20.720
<v Speaker 1>shot car thing. And UM, I was really confused because

0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, maybe he got me like a

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<v Speaker 1>ride in this thing, like I go to a yeah,

0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.639
<v Speaker 1>take this sling shot tour around Nashville. Um, And he's like,

0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.360
<v Speaker 1>have you ever been in a sling shot? I can't

0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.720
<v Speaker 1>do an Australian accent, but I was like what He's like,

0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.639
<v Speaker 1>have you ever ridden in one of these things? And

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like no, why how would I? Why would I? UM?

0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wait, you're giving this to me.

0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, I got you in brett One And

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<v Speaker 1>I was just in shock, like I've never gotten anything

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<v Speaker 1>um at that magnitude. I mean, it's just insane and

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<v Speaker 1>so generous. And we definitely had a ball with it

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<v Speaker 1>or on Christmas Day with my my family. Where is

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<v Speaker 1>it now? It's in Texas so Yans room. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the dog, you gave it a field to run in, right, Yeah? Exactly?

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Ryan and I hold it down to Texas for Christmas,

0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and um my dad is basically helping store it, slash

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>using it. Um, yeah, he was freaking out that he

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.760
<v Speaker 1>gets to take care of that thing. Just a sidebar

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<v Speaker 1>on Keith, like, really and this is a show Bears

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.720
<v Speaker 1>town as much as Los Angeles is. I mean, it

0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>really is the show Bears town. But Keith is as

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<v Speaker 1>nice and as genuine, even more so than he seems

0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.760
<v Speaker 1>on TV or radio or anywhere else. Yeah, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is another one of those people that's like

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<v Speaker 1>really jarring to meet in person because you know, I've

0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.159
<v Speaker 1>been listening to Keith's records, you know, since you know,

0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Golden Road, since before that album actually like black Top

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of stuff. And so when he called

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.439
<v Speaker 1>me about the tour and then I met him to

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 1>announce the tour with Brett, and yeah, it's just insane

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.680
<v Speaker 1>how authentic he is and that famous and then the

0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.520
<v Speaker 1>weird famous, and then there's like that kind of famous

0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>where you are known by most of the world. We

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 1>were in my girlfriend I went to Australia and I

0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:29.760
<v Speaker 1>was never going to tell the story, and then he

0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of busted my balls for not telling it because

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I was given. I was kind of making fun of

0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Sydney a bit. And we were in Sydney this last

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>vacation and we went for Christmas and I've never been

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to Australia and so we go and he was in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>He texted me, goes, hey are you here? And I

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:46.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, Hey, saw you come over to the house.

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.720
<v Speaker 1>We're having a Christmas party. And I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>over to someone's house on Christmas. I'm just not someone

0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>who goes into people's space anyway. I like to stay out.

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I just don't like to impose more than anything. And

0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I really appreciate it, but I'm not. And

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I know he's genuine because he's just a good dude.

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 1>The next day texted me again, he goes, hey, you

0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>have to come over having Nicole and I having a

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Christmas party. Come over to the house. And so we're

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 1>in Australia. Keith Urban has Lindsay and myself and we

0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>go over and there's a big his dinner and it's

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like Nicole's mom and his mom and family. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, we could have been a cousin or something.

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>He just sit down with us and we just all

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 1>talked for like an hour and it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>the most and I'm not normal because I'm just kind

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of a peculiar guy. It was just like a real

0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>nice human thing that I don't think people I think rich,

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:40.440
<v Speaker 1>famous people are anymore and he is I think, um

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like being like a family man and just his connection

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>with his fans, and I don't know, I sort of

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>saw behind the scenes, like the way he takes care

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>of his crew, and he like got his production manager

0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with Baja is his nickname, and he's like seventy years old,

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's loud and hilarious and always took care of us.

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Keith got him like the segue five years ago, and

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 1>he would always just like drive it around. And you

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>see like what he does for his crew that have

0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>been with him and are loyal to him, and there's

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:19.159
<v Speaker 1>just like this unspoken bond between everybody that that respects him,

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, it's just like it sounds like he's

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the best boss to work for and it's because he

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.000
<v Speaker 1>he really cares about these people. And there's a lot

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of people I'd asked him, I said, hey, what's the

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.160
<v Speaker 1>deal with country music in Australia. He goes it's nowhere,

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.199
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't exist, So what do you mean. He goes,

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like jazz in America. You have to go to

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the AM dial and hopefully you find some. And it's like, man,

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to I was like, well, how did you

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.080
<v Speaker 1>get played? He goes, I don't. It's just I'm cool

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in America to some people, so now I'm cool over here.

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 1>But he was like, yeah, I don't get played anywhere.

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>He said it was exciting to him because him and

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Carrie saw on The Fighter had just started getting played

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 1>on like Pop and a C stations. He was like,

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>it's great, mit, it's you know, and so it was

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 1>cool that kind see him think something was cool again. Yeah,

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy thing in your career, like that tour for

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you though. With Keith though, you really didn't have anything out.

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>He just heard some stuff, right, Yeah. Very early on

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>he um pulled the trigger and he I think his

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 1>manager sent me or sent him a couple of my

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.360
<v Speaker 1>songs and they were they weren't even on iTunes yet.

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 1>They were just like floating around. And Keith heard my

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Church in eighties and I think it was probably the

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>EP and he called his manager and he's like, can

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 1>we get this girl for the tour, and and he

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, who wrote these songs and the like she did,

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and so he was like, Okay, yeah, we need to

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>get this this girl out here. And yeah, that phone

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>call was crazy because I was like, Okay. I was

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, put us a single out and

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, hope hopefully it goes up the chart. And

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 1>then to have that insurance of being on a tour

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>later in the year, Um, it's just it made everything's

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>fall into place so well and so much easier. And

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he just really he saw something in

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>me so early on before everyone jumped in. And I

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, that's a gigantic risk to bring

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>out a brand new artist who's never toured before. Um,

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>what a tour for your first tour, I know, yeah exactly.

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel kind of spoiled. It's like, okay, we're just

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>going right up here to Keith urban Um. But I

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>learned so much, just like I had twenty five minutes

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to really make an impact on his crowd. And I

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like from the first show to the sixtie show,

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>because it was a long tour, I got so much

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable on stage. I have more fun now on

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 1>stage and he kind of set the parameters for me

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>to achieve that, and I feel like, yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>have so much more of a blast on stage now

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not afraid of it and I can walk

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<v Speaker 1>out in front of twenty people and not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still nervous, but I'm not as nervous. So it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the last six months, you know, you're out

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're on TV and you're doing interviews. So that's

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the part that we've known of you is the last

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<v Speaker 1>six months to year. But I don't have any idea

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<v Speaker 1>how you grew up, Like, I don't know, like you're five,

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>six years old, what's what's the house like? Um? You

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>know my parents were like working middle class. They own

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<v Speaker 1>a small hair salon in Arlenton, Texas. Yeah, yep. My

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>mom still stands behind the chair and cuts hair. Is

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>she extra cool now like to her clients everyone? Yeah,

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to be okay. Um yeah, I

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>think like they sort of caught a second wind in life.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It was like they've supported me for so long and

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 1>then all this stuff to be happening now, Um yeah,

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean they just couldn't be prouder and they were

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>at the c m As and they're going to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the Grammys. They're is freaking out about everything as

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>parents do, and but yeah, they still work and they

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>come out to everything that they can, and uh, yeah,

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I just grew up in a home whereas like my

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>parents weren't they didn't. My mom liked to sing karaoke.

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>She would like win karaoke contests at bars. Do you

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>think that when your mom would win karaoke contests? I

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't think that was cool. I kind of do now.

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>At the time, I was like, mom, come on, don't

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>sing what She would sing like four non blonde. Yes, yeah,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.959
<v Speaker 1>that was a big one. She loved Dixie Chicks and Wagon,

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>which like a mom singing that. It's just yeah, but

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>she loves it. And I think, like I would watch

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>her and I'd be like, Okay, if if you are

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>having this much fun, what am I missing out on?

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 1>And um, I think I was like eight or nine

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and I like I started to sing too, and um

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>my dad bought me a I been as acoustic guitar

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<v Speaker 1>when I was twelve, And I think that's just like

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>where it all really cultivated. It was like, okay, I

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I've always loved to write. In school, I was terrible

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>at math and science and that I was always really

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>good at English and history and creative writing, and so

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it just naturally was like, oh, I'll just

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>put these lyrics to this, like two chords, I know,

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and then it was a song and not a good one,

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>but it was like a start, so um. But my

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>parents never had like a second guess about um me

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>doing this. It wasn't like, well, Okay, this is like

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a cute hobby for now, We'll just take you to

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>these operies and talent shows. But then eventually like you're

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna able to call it right like they never said that.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>They were always just like on board from the get go,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, I think what kept me going.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're back here, and I guess we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about your parents and that they give you a guitar?

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you take lessons? Do you buy a chord cheat

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>from Walmart? Like, what's what's the man More School of

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>learning music. Yeah, my dad bought me like a chord

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>book where you could like look at the pictures, and

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I would. I took a couple of lessons, but I just,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>um was super lazy. I didn't like I didn't like

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone teaching me how to play guitar. I was like,

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a feel thing. So of course I can't

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>read music because I didn't stick with the lessons, But

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I get by enough on guitar to like to write songs.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>But I'm in no way John Osborne. So but by

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the way, it is such a good guitar player. Yeah

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>he is. And people don't know that yet, Um, that

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that aren't inside, but he's the best. Yeah he is.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>There's an eight minute solo at the end of their

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>first single that it ended up, you know, not being

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>on the radio for eight minutes. He plays an eight

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>minute guitar solo on the end of what is it?

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>What's the first? Long? Um, it wasn't rung, No, it was.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>It was their second song, Rome was the first, the

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>number one long Stay a little Longer. It was eight

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>minutes older. Oh yeah, yeah, stay a little longer and

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>him and it's so good too, and I've been, you know,

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I have just have a few personal friends and him

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and Lucy Silver's are like dear friends of mine. Lucy's

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>just the She's I think, my only close friend I

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't had in here yet because of my close friends.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's just let's just hold off a bit.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's such a talented and nice from that group

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>of folks. Yeah, like John and Lucy Lucy. I went

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the other night. I said, hey, and for those who

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>don't Lucy she um, she's New Zealand slash British slash American.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Just been awesome all the way off. Yeah, she's all over.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, listen, how big were you in

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the UK? And she goes, well, I sold a million

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>records And I was like really, she was, yeah, I

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>sold a million records, and you know, I didn't walk

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>out and I said what was the big song and

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>she said, well, I did Metallica. Um. It was a

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>huge cover of a Metallica song with a full orchestra.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And I came back and I googled it and I

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, holy crap, it was like nothing else matters,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>this full orchestral Metallica song. I couldn't believe it. It

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>is sort of a double life that she's like, yeah,

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I please talk to her. I feel like

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I know her story, but I think you will bring

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>something out that I'll be like, holy f Like that

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>happened to Bobby, Bobby, why do you ask me this? Bobby?

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>All the time she's sung with like Lionel Richie, like

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>there's always like she's so humble it's annoying, but it's

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>not annoying. It's like she means it and she's so

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>nice that you're like, Okay, you're not bragging or humble

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>bragging because she was telling st but Elton John, she

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>was like she was playing with Daniel Bettingfield. I don't

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>know if you know who Daniel betting I gotta get

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>through this. I gotta make gottah if you're not the one. Yeah,

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that one she was like, I was she was playing

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>keys with Daniel Bettingfield for Elton John. And it was

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>just like in passing conversation and I was like, John,

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess called you to have when he so what

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>was that? What was that about? Um? Yeah, okay, So

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>this that happened a few months ago or several months ago,

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and I am was randomly like at home for a

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>few day stretch in Nashville, and I was just doing

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>my laundry one day at the house and Ryan I

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>had no witnesses to this phone call because he was

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>out on the front porch talking to someone on the phone.

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm just like in my house doing laundry

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and I had come back to my phone that was

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>on silent, and I had two miss calls from like

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 1>a South London number, because you know, on an iPhone

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it tells you where it's from. And I was like,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that's weird. I don't know anyone over there that would

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>be calling me at this time of day. And my

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>manager texted me like two seconds later, and I could

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>not believe it, but she was like, Elton John is

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to reach you. Um, And I was like, oh

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>my god, I just missed two phone calls from Elton John.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Like what do I do? Like do I call this

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>number back? I'm just like I don't even know the protocol,

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you do? And she was like, hold on,

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>let me get in touch with his publicist or something

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever happens, and um, he called back and it was

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like an unknown number now and okay, gotcha. Is that

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>what that means? Okay, well, I answered because I knew

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>who it was, and um, He's like, hey, is this

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Maren And I was like, oh my god, I don't

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>know what Okay, yes it is, and uh He's like,

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>oh cool, this is Elton, like no last name is

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'm calling and I was like, oh, hi, hello,

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>how are you? And he was like, oh, I'm good,

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>just at the studio and I don't know, I just

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get in touch with you to say that

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I got your record. I have it on vinyl. We

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>were listening to it at the studio the other night

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and I love I love your songs and yeah, and

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so I feel like, okay, I'm living out some sort

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of fever dream or something. I'm sick. I think I've

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it happened. I lost my mind a point. Yeah, I'm

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>like on mescalin full fledged in the desert and yeah,

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>but it sunk in and I was like I was

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to find a response and I was just like, wow,

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you, that's so cool. Um, I'm obviously a huge fan.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, why don't I even go through the

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>semantics of, you know, trying to be cool. It's like, uh,

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you're Elton John, so um, that's a huge honor. And

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it was so random too, because I had just been

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>listening to his music like a few days prior, just

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>randomly in my iPhone. To have him call me a

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of days later. I was like, Okay, this guy

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>is across the world and he's in pop music and

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>he's a legend. How what I wish I had asked

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>him was like, how did you find my music? And

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll never know unless I meet him again or something

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>or meet him, But I I don't know how he

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>found my album, but he had it on vinyl, so

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>there had to have been like some sort of like

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>exchange or like someone gave it to him. I don't know.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>But how do you in the call of Dulton John?

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And who ends it? And do you? Is there a

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>point where like I don't want to talk too long

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>because I Dulton thinks I'm just a loser. I won't

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>hang up right, yeah, or I just didn't want it

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to ever be awkward. I was like, this can be

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the shortest phone call, that's fine, um, But I was

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to like get outside so I could put it

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>on speaker. So Ryan could hear it, and of course

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>like Elton's like, oh cool, well, cheers love. It was

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>so good to talk to you. Hopefully I'll see you

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>in the future by and then like I opened the

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>door and Ryan's like everything okay, And I was like, no,

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>no one heard this, no one witnessed it. Um, but yeah,

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Elton Jon called me that was pretty freaking crazy. When

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you make a record like Hero which now as you

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>look back at it in all its pieces, and I

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>enjoy a record, I enjoy an album. And when I

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 1>heard it at first, it came to me as, wow,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a bold record now because it's so big,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know how it is. Bold things become a

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>norm once they become huge and popularity. Did you feel like, Okay,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking such an artistic leap with this that it's

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>either going to just thrive or the world's not ready

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>for me right now? Because he wrote was a bold

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>record that from the songs, the sound, the textures all

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 1>for country radio. I you know, I sort of look

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>at the artists that have I don't know, just just

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>slowly chiseled away at a path where I could come

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in and do something all of my own and so

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I felt like there were elements of this record that

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>we're reaching, like Okay, this is I. I was pretty strategic,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but still like emotional in the way that I structured

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>the album and which songs I picked, and you know,

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like there is a part of your brain that's like, okay,

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the set list, like the track listing, how is this

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>going to work? And the songs that are maybe less country,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like I have to balance it with something that is

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 1>going to be palatable. And it's it's like your first

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>album is it's so important because it really is the

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>first impression. And I just felt like, yeah, this this

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>album is definitely a very edgy and has you know,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the words ship all over it. I don't know if

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I can cuss on this podcast, Um yeah, I mean

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there's like cursing, and there's there's you know, talk of

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>like sex and there. I don't know, it's just like

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>so many elements that I you know, I sort of

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>laid awake at night and I was like, maybe this

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is not ready, like people aren't ready for this. But

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>then I realized I was like I can't think that

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>way because I think about like Miranda, and I think

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>about Sam and you know, Sam Hunt has had some

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>major freaking radio success and he's gotten like knocked against

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>my people who are like leading the charge for the

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>whole like traditional country sound. But he proved them all

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>wrong because that record was massively successful and it was him,

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's it's so weird that people. I

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>hate to like branch off for a second, but it's

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it's strange that people are constantly comparing new albums to

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 1>the past because I don't know, I just I'd never

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>listened to music that way, where I listened to like

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a pop song, and I'm like, well, this is not

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like Mambo number five. You know, back in our day,

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 1>chamba wamba sounded much better than you know, yeah, oh

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly. It's really annoying, and I constantly fight with

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>people to go, well that's not country, because I've been

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to be able to talk to every one

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>from Merle Haggard to Garth Brooks to the guys to today,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know what they all say. They were all

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>told what they did did not fit right. Then every

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>freaking one of them, every one of them was told

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>what all these dicks on all these blogs say constantly, oh,

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not country. No one has the authority to tell

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>someone what something creative is. Yeah, I mean, I think

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>there's historical significance in the roots of country music, but

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the roots of it have always been the

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>same and continue to be the same. There rooted in

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>honesty and truth and saying it like it is and

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>real life situations and heart and lyrical value. And I think,

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's in a lot of genres, but I

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like country music is known for that and really

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>created that that realm. And so whether you put a

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>synthesizer on a song or a beat or whatever, it's like, okay, well,

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Sam Hunt is you could compare him to like Conway

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Twitty and even the Johnny Cash who would talk and

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>play quote devil rock and roll my Grandma's marks Markansas

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>grandlmos of people would protest him because of the Devil's

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll that he would play. Patsy Klein considered

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Walking After Midnight a little old pop song, That's what

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>she called it. She thought that was pop back then.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>So you think about today and it's like, okay, well,

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>there's always going to be, you know, the nights of

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>traditional country music values. But I think at the end

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of the day. It's like people want to People respond

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to music that's good and that moves them. So that's

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>what kept me, uh confident and Hero coming out. So

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 1>if Hero would have failed, you would have blank hmm,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I would have kept writing. Yeah, I don't think anything

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>would have changed. Honestly, I think it would have. I

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>would have been discouraged, but I think I would have

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>kept writing. I would have kept going because I'd be like,

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I loved this record and I'm proud of it no

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>matter what, um, whether it wins an award or someone

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>says it's a disgrace to country music. Um, I loved it.

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>And I have seen so much more of the world now,

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>um since putting the album out, and I feel like

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>people are I don't know, they're they're more vocal about

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>their love of country or maybe if they weren't a

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>country fan, Hero turned them onto country. And that's like

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a huge honor because ah, it is a cool sort

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of like Gateway drug in a way. It's like, Okay, well,

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>there are so many elements of country on my album,

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>but you can also find R and B and classic

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>soul and rock and pop, so many elements, but it's

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>all rooted in the same thing. It's rooted in honesty

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and that like country lyrics structure where everything is like

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>air tight and the rhymes are on top of each other.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, it's it's been cool to see uh,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>different age generations connect to that album because it really

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is um an album for everyone. There's there's no song alike,

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. I'm really proud of it and

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that people are are liking it too. This

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is my jam right here, but i'd be rich proud

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 1>of So this is rich. That's how you why it's

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>my jam, and I'll have you talking about it. I

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>actually the personal story. So I I I'm on the

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>road basically every weekend, and so um I was by

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm glad you got here when you did.

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I was packing. I don't know if you an't know

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>about packing like me, Like I have to go through

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and make sure I have every piece of clothing for

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>every available Like Okay, daytime, I'm wearing this. In the evening,

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>i'll wear this, then I'll change into this, And I

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>have to go through all of these little clothing changes

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>in my head, do this and do that every week

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm a terrible packer. Oh, I have a

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and then I have to get Then I go to

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>pill everything back out and count it all back in.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so o c D about everything. Yeah, but at

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>least you don't have to stress out about it once

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and then I get I forget some a sock or something.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But I played this, And the reason I bring it

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.919
<v Speaker 1>up is so I have to stand up comedy shows

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>this weekend, and this is a song that I played

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>before I go out on stage. You do, yeah, so

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 1>I play rich. So tell me about the song. Where

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>were you who? Concept like, give me the whole deal here. Um,

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I was here in Nashville. I was at my publisher,

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Big Yellow Dog, and with Jesse Joe Dillen, Laura Belts

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and Jesse. Joe had told me this title like a

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>week prior. We were at winners Um in Midtown and

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>she was she's such an amazing writer, but she brought

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that title as a sad song. She was like, God,

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>if I just want to write it, you know there

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>and like, if if I had a dollar for every

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 1>time you screwed me over or broke my heart, I'd

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.879
<v Speaker 1>be rich. And I was like, damn, like, that's really good.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>But then we got into the room that day with

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Laura and it was like, I don't think this is

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.959
<v Speaker 1>a sad song. I think it's like a fu song.

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And so we just started with this guitar riff and

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Laura was playing and um, I was trying to play,

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and we just started, like I guess, adding all these

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>crazy examples, and then we got to the second verse

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was just threw out jokingly. I was like,

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>if I had a dime every time you crossed my mind,

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably be sitting on a big as pile of dimes.

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was kidding. But then they were like, I

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>think we should keep that because that's just funny, and um,

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so we did. It's like, whatever line, whether it's stupid

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>or not, if you throw it out like nothing stupid,

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what I've sort of learn and except what I

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just did, drop the mic. Um, Yeah, I feel like

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you just have to like put it out there and

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>then you can decide if it's not going to work

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>or not. But I like to dare to be stupid

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>in the writing room. But yeah, we kept that line in,

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, it's one of my favorites. On

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the album too, and Favorites live because it's just the

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>crossing a. Yeah, the girls, I feel like young girls

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>really really you have a song that's just come out

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>of you, like like some artists will come and go, hey,

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what the song is. It came in fifteen minutes,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like the song was there and I couldn't believe it.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any of those? Um? Yeah, I could

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>use a love song with sort of like that. UM

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>in my church we wrote really quick too, but I

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>could use a love song. Um. We wrote in the morning.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a long story, but it was like after a

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of drinks, were all, yeah, we're all having like

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a really crap day, and Laura Belts had just gotten

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a ticket Jimmy Robbins something had happened, and then I

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>had had a weird start to the morning. And we

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>get there and we're all just like really dejected, and

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we're like, how how are we going to write a song?

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 1>And Laura's like, do you want to walk to Losers?

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And so I was. It was eleven o'clock and I

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 1>was like maybe, and we all were on board, and

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>we went over and we had like one drink and

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>walked back and I had most of Hero already done,

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and then Jimmy was like, do you have any like

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>what are you missing off the album, which is like

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the weirdest question to get from people. It's like, I

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, Um, I'll know it when I hear it,

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And I was like, it's weird. This whole

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.359
<v Speaker 1>song like doesn't have any love songs on it. It's

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like the first record I've heard in a while it doesn't.

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And Jimmy's like, oh, but you could you could use

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a love song though, right, and uh, Laura like jotted

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>down that as a title, but it was just in conversation, like,

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>oh but you could use a song on the on

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the album, and uh so yeah. We went back and

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I think we should just write a

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>song called I could use a love song. And we

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like the sky opened up that day

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and maybe it was because our filters had been drunk away,

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>but we just like poured through that song and had

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the demo done within like an hour and a half.

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Played this for you tell me talking about this song

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>right here? Better day man, it's hunched over in her

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>chair right now. Okay, this is a silver bullet for

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the interview. I don't have bullets. Oh my good run

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>its days? Where did you find that? What about what

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I had? I was, Oh my god, it's this Yeah,

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>no play it. I can hear that thirteen year old

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>pain kid? Did you write Better Days? I wrote it

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>with my mom? Actually really yeah, I used to right

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.320
<v Speaker 1>back then. Uh oh my god, I feel like my

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>face so hot right now. Um, I'm trying to remember

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>back that far. I mean, that was like so long ago.

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. Where were you playing that at bars? Yeah?

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And how are you getting into bar? Because your mom

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:39.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, she's cool, she's with me, She's cool.

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm the karaoke champions. Um no, I mean in Texas

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. I mean you might know this. Like if

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you are a kid and you have your parents with you, Yeah,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>you can drink and you can be in the bar.

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean I wouldn't drink, but I would definitely. I

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was able to play these shows in these you know,

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty honky tonks because my parents were there, um, and

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>they were my managers, so they were, um driving me

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to and fro from all these gigs. But yeah, thirteen,

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>when that gem of a song was written I was

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 1>playing in like the White Elephant Saloon and like the

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 1>crap stage outside of Billy Bob's. I don't know, I've

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this so long. I make my sound

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>myself sounds so old, but I really have been hustling

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>in bars and honky tonks since I was twelve. Here's

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>a song called walk on. Okay, can we just play

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>all my demos instead? How old are you with this one?

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 1>To go back? But there's something there, like you know

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 1>it always I'm always like, oh, I'd like to hear

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:54.479
<v Speaker 1>stuff either from when I was seventeen on the radio. Yeah,

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.280
<v Speaker 1>but do you hear it? Like, do you hear something

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>there in that thirteen year old voice? At think I

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:05.720
<v Speaker 1>was a little more nasally with let's just like talent wise,

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like something there, something there that's inherent. Do you hear

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 1>something inherently in that? Yeah? I mean I've always I've

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>always loved music, and I've loved performing and writing songs.

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, I try to think back

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to what my parents were thinking at the time, because

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>they're obviously biased. It's like those parents that have talented

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>kids quote unquote, it's like, well, you are their parents?

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>So how do you really know? But then I'm trying

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to like look back at my parents and for them

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to put aside that parental love and be like, Okay,

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>can she actually do this? Is she even like emotionally

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>emotionally capable to play these bars and ship like I

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they do, Like Okay, you're gonna play these

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.720
<v Speaker 1>bars and they're gonna be a lot of rowdy drunk

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>people or is it's like man, just go and we'll watch. Yeah,

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean they they I never played anywhere to c

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.439
<v Speaker 1>D where it was like dangerous to be in there.

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>They certainly would not have um taken me to a

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>bar like that. But I grew up around adults and

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:20.399
<v Speaker 1>like people drinking and smoking inside and you can still

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>do that in Texas, and like, I grew up in

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that environment. So by the time I turned twenty one,

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like not cool that you could drink um. Yeah,

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, they definitely the whole time saw something in me.

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I mean, you're you're talking about

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like the thirteen year old self like to your friends,

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 1>because you could you were singing and playing and regardless

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of where you were singing, and you were still singing

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and playing. Yeah. Yeah, they were all so excited they

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>come to my shows, which the ones they could get into. Um,

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it was weird. I went to like a

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>public high school and on the weekends I would go

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>do these shows around xas to talent shows and stuff.

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>At school, I never did a talent show. I was

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>in musical theater, so I did all the musicals and like,

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>which one because I'm a little theater you are, Yeah,

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I degree so Danny Zooko in Greece. Wow, that's a

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>big one. It was awesome. I like to dance, so

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 1>we need to find that footage and it exists. I

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>would like that. Ny. It all back from your key

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>screen is your silver bullet? So what did you do

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 1>so theater wise? What was your favorite? I did? Um,

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>My first one was when I was a freshman, and

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it was It's Susical the musical Okay, Dr Stuce, Yes,

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and I played a little boy. So that was my

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>first one. And then um, I did Little Shop of Horror.

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I did Little Shop of Horse. Who are you in it?

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I was Seymour, I was Audrey. That's so funny, Wed

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Mercy More that's so funny. Oh my god, that's I

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>did agree. I did a Little Shop Was Love and

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 1>my junior year and Greece my senior year. I did

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Little Shot my junior year, and that was like like that.

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>It was so dark for high school. I'm actually really

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>surprised my high school allowed they got it, though I don't.

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the movie was out and we were The

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>movie was before me too, like Rick Maranis and stuff.

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think it made it so safe because he

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>was so safe that everyone kind of lost it. I

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:24.959
<v Speaker 1>look back on it now, I'm like, oh my god,

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Like in the movie and the play, like I have

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to be hit, not like for real, but like she's

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in an abusive relationship, and there's like all these like

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 1>dark sex jokes, and I was like, if I was

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a parent in the crowd, I'd be like, who okay,

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>this this is like way too advanced for high school kids.

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But we didn't. You're right, we didn't get it. We

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't get it at all. It was almost it was

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the SpongeBob effective plays, like the kids don't get the

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>adult jokes and SpongeBob. I just thought I was freaking

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>talking to a plant and you know, but that that's so.

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 1>It was just I was magic. That's funny. Tell me

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>about this all that it takes at here. Yeah. No,

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I was actually oh yeah, I was seventeen. This was

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 1>my UM number one in Texas. When you get a

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>number one in Texas, do you think, okay, well, all right, Texas,

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Now it's time to go and bust out nationally,

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Like do you think it was just gonna be like

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 1>pop up up um? I think okay. So I was seventeen,

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and I I think at the time, I was like, no,

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to be in the big leagues of Texas.

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't have any sights to go to Nashville

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>until I was, like, you know, in my early twenties,

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but I yeah, I wanted to like tour around Texas

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and basically head line and you know, like all the

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.399
<v Speaker 1>greats down there to me, like you know, I loved

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Wade Bowen and Stoney LaRue and Randy Rogers and uh

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Rodney Foster and all those guys. It was like green

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Hall of cool place for you to play. Yeah, I've

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 1>played there once and I actually requested on my headline

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>tour that we hit Green Hall. So I'm going to

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>do a Green Hall show, which I'm so excited about.

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's the coolest venue. I feel like in Texas.

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>It's the oldest dance hall and it's like George Straits.

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's the George Straight I'm here. So

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you were in Austin, So do you remember? Um, he's

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>still around and I love him. But Bob Schneider, Oh yeah,

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Bob played my show many times. Yeah, so I Um,

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I saw him at Green that was like the last

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>show I saw there. But I love him. Um, but

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. It's sort of full circle to get to

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>play there on my own tour. I mean, I don't

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 1>run Bob when I was in Austin was dating Sandra Bullock. Yeah,

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.399
<v Speaker 1>because she lived in Austin too. Yeah, Boba came bind

0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Players show all the time. That's crazy, but it's not

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 1>crazy because we're, you know, from basically the same place. Yeah.

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been a fan of his for over a decade now,

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>so I think he was a little before his time frankly. Yeah,

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and he's one of those where it's like he can

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 1>do anything. He can do any genre. So I think

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of hard to to find a spot because

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.799
<v Speaker 1>he is so good at so many third album, Born

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Again somewhere. What was the goal with this record? It's funny,

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like born again and now there's my church. Um

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I was nineteen. I think I sound a little more

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>like myself. I feel like definitely more country, weirdly like

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that Texas country too. I think there's some Texas country

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and Hero though, like I hear it, I still hear

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 1>all you do, I do? I do? What's ever said

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that to me? I I, you know, lived in Texas

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, you know, and I do so.

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I do hear a little bit of Texas country and Hero,

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>but I hear a lot of things in Hero, which

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 1>is what's cool about the record because every song there's

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of similarity, but there's a lot that's

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>not as you go from track to track, if that

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:22.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense at all. Yeah. I have some other audio

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>clips here and like talking about um no more like that,

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 1>don't worry. Speaking of Lucy Silva's villain, Yes, familiar with

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the song, how so I wrote it because we've had

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you we the Crombi down and I'll take the phone

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you if you're looking for She's so good? Yeah,

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 1>how she told me the story aboud this music video.

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I've seen the video and the parts about what tell me, Well,

0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>we shot it at an actual prison, um near Huntsville.

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna call her? I I just came to

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>do like makeup touch ups. This is like a year

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and a half ago. But we shot it at a

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>working prison, and yeah, it was pretty crazy too, to

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>be in a prison with real into Yeah, and like

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Lucy is so beautiful and like her walking past, and

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>then I idiotically wore shorts that day and all the

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 1>guys are like, whoa, oh god, this is so so crazy.

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:53.919
<v Speaker 1>Let's see if Lucy answers. I think she's in town.

0:57:54.240 --> 0:58:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't quick gonna hit it with her.

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's leave a message how back to you? Oh no,

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the mailbox is full. Okay, she may call back. How

0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:21.479
<v Speaker 1>about the song here Greener Pastures? Yes, we know about

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 1>this one. Ryan and I wrote this with John and

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>t J D. Try and drink into the pure. Man

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>had to go to that. You all four you guys

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 1>right there, June Yan righte. That for those two, the

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 1>four of us that just sitting around, you guys are

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>just like, let's just rock something out. It was weird

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because like we've been friends with John and t J

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for years, we've never written together and they've never been

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:04.439
<v Speaker 1>homes honestly, so we had it on the books to write.

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like a for real co write, and um,

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I was nervous because like to write with friends is

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it can go either way. It can either be amazing,

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 1>which luckily this one turned out to be, or it

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.680
<v Speaker 1>can be like kind of a downer and it's like

0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:25.520
<v Speaker 1>everything's cool, but yeah, let's not do this again. But

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know we I had that title for years in

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>my phone and no one would write it with me.

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And Ryan will attest to this like I I threw

0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that title at him and writes for like two years

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>straight and no one ever bit at it. And then

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>finally I threw it out the final time at this

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 1>brother's Osborne co write, and yeah, I was like, I've

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>had this title Greener Pastors in my phone forever, and

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I like looked at Ryan and I was like, I

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like it could be a cool play on words

0:59:56.720 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>about like breaking up with someone or them leaving you

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and then you just go smoke a joint or something

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:07.600
<v Speaker 1>like moving on to Greener Pastors and John and t

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 1>J laughed and like loved it, and then John started

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 1>playing that like riff and m Yeah, it was like

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 1>a pretty easy co write, which I'm astounded at because, um,

1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 1>with friends it can be weird. But we Yeah, we

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:24.600
<v Speaker 1>had the best time. And then when they played us

1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the recording of it and J Joyce produced it, which

1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I I love. I loved J Joyce. Um, I'm a

1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>huge Patty Griffin fan, and he did her Flaming Red

1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 1>album which I loved. But he produced that song for

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 1>John and t J and I just like died listening

1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:43.600
<v Speaker 1>to it, And it was cool to hear them do

1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it at the rheman at their show. It was really cool, man,

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:52.720
<v Speaker 1>so much so I'll ask you this. And when Ryan,

1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>by the way Ryan heard was then you've mentioned him

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a few times, and I'll do the same thing with

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you that with Ryan, I didn't bring you up until later,

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>but he just kept referencing unfl Well, if I don't

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.240
<v Speaker 1>address what you're referencing, people aren't even going to know.

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So Ryan heard your boyfriend right now? Yeah, And so

1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge Ryan fan. Yeah, minus Marin, I'm a

1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:14.200
<v Speaker 1>huge Ryan fan. Like I, I just I enjoy him.

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy his music. I love where he comes from.

1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.720
<v Speaker 1>He just seems like a guy that is like it

1:01:21.480 --> 1:01:24.600
<v Speaker 1>into a happy universe, if that makes sense. Like he

1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:26.760
<v Speaker 1>just seems like a guy that wants peace in the universe,

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and he makes me want to have peace in the

1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:32.479
<v Speaker 1>universe when like I'm around him. And so you guys

1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:35.520
<v Speaker 1>write a lot together, do you guys talk about music

1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot? I mean, is that really what the bond? Yeah,

1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's how we met each other was in

1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a co write and um, it was like three and

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a half almost four years ago, and we've just been

1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>friends for years and we were both in other relationships

1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, but yeah, I think that was the first.

1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Um bond was just hey, I love writing songs with you.

1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.280
<v Speaker 1>And we got our first cut together with Tim McGraw

1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, we just asked our publishers to keep

1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 1>putting us on our books and yeah, I think, well

1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it was Funny Brothers Osborne. That was our second like

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<v Speaker 1>actual cut together. But we've had a few placements and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on Nashville and whatnot. But at the crux of it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, Okay, yes, I love writing songs with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But after you know, we sort of started like falling

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<v Speaker 1>for each other and not just like in a friendly way.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, I don't know. I used to to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about oh, like I always want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to write songs with him, that's this relationship. But now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't really care. I mean, it's cool

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<v Speaker 1>if we get a cool song, but it's cool to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship where that's not contingent on it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we've written plenty of great songs together and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's just about our relationship and leaning on each

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<v Speaker 1>other during the craziest time of our lives, like kick

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<v Speaker 1>starting our artist careers. And yeah, um, he's he's just

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<v Speaker 1>an incredi double person. Like I could probably talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him for the rest of this podcast, but I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll um save you from that. Um. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>just he really does have a heart of gold. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're right where he lives in this world where um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so thoughtful and he really he cares about the

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<v Speaker 1>energy around him, and he cares about like if you're okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and not like in a pressing way. He's just he's

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<v Speaker 1>always aware of if people are feeling taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>or not, and um, He's like that with really every

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<v Speaker 1>facet of his career would sponsor Mike, We're good, alright, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so let's talk. Let's go to now. Um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just now. It's weird and in a great way. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, what you said at the c M is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty remarkable and poignant and such a big stage and

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<v Speaker 1>such small awesome words where you were like a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this from across the street, Mat I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like, I mean that the neated with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even trying to be you, and that resonated

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I wonder like, did you have that ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that? Because I still remember you getting up and

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<v Speaker 1>saying that and going, I mean that, that's the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>thing to say right there, like everybody's inspired. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what you're doing, music, live, digging ditches, driving truck

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<v Speaker 1>like you should. That's inspiring right there. So talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that moment for a second. Well, when I got up there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been thinking about that all night, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think I was going to be able to accept

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<v Speaker 1>an award that night, but I was thinking just to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like in a personal way, I was like, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't even think I was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>an invitation to the c m AS this year, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone be nominated. And yeah, I was just thinking, like Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat across the street from Bridgetone a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>um with friends and we got dressed up and went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Palm Bar and just watched on TV and

1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:07.040
<v Speaker 1>watched people like Chris Stapleton's life change with one performance.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that had been kind of rattling around my

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<v Speaker 1>mind all day really, but when I got up there,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so overcome with emotion and I like laugh

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<v Speaker 1>and cry watching the footage back because I brought my

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<v Speaker 1>purse up on stage with me, like my clutch. I

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<v Speaker 1>should have just like left it, and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>open it because I had a note card inside with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy's calling Hello, Lucy. Hey, I'm with Marin right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're you're on record, So don't say anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't want out there. Don't talk about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're you're in a bad place. Listen, you're cutting out?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you? Okay? Okay, Okay, I'm going I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know she can hear me, now I can, Yeah,

1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I can hear. That doesn't mean I know what you're saying,

1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:11.040
<v Speaker 1>but I can hear you now perfectly. You don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got you. We're talking about you, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what we're talking about. So it's good that

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of hopping in. Oh. How would you describe

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<v Speaker 1>Marin as a friend. We have so much history and

1:06:24.520 --> 1:06:27.160
<v Speaker 1>so many stories that I have many ways, But the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that comes to my mind is that I

1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:34.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know. She's so she's so sweet. She has like

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<v Speaker 1>a little giggle that she giggles at things and it

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<v Speaker 1>just makes her horrible. Um. But I don't know as

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<v Speaker 1>a friend, supposed to just a person in general, I'd say, um,

1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:49.960
<v Speaker 1>she's got a lot of empathy for the people around her. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always thought she's been there for some of the

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<v Speaker 1>most important, probably the most important time in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that they got married as John's best man. Oh,

1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:02.439
<v Speaker 1>she said she was John's best man. That I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, and she you know, I think she's just

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<v Speaker 1>one of these people that um. Um. I just she's

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<v Speaker 1>got a mystery around her. But as a friend, she's

1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:18.400
<v Speaker 1>never she's she always feel like she's there for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell her things I don't and that's you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that with everybody with friends, you're always some

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<v Speaker 1>friends you have to think. I'm going to filter that

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<v Speaker 1>out because I don't want to tell them that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like that was Marion. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>my deepest talker secrets. And now, Lucy, how am I

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<v Speaker 1>is a friend? You're awful? Know you? Well, it's so

1:07:41.360 --> 1:07:45.439
<v Speaker 1>far You've been great. You tell the truth, which I like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Hey, Well we I feel like, Lucy, we

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<v Speaker 1>do these shows and you come up with every one

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<v Speaker 1>of them one because I'm just yes, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth one that you've come up, so now we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to make a point to get you, to get you

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<v Speaker 1>up here. But yeah, I want to hear that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>were you? Were you? According? Right now, I'm actually just

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<v Speaker 1>doing vocals on a song that I wrote with Ryan Beaver,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm like, I love Ryan the best day

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<v Speaker 1>listening to his voice, and I'm very excited to just

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<v Speaker 1>go home and sit on my porch for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the night and do nothing. I'm about to do

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Well, thank you for calling me back. Lucy,

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<v Speaker 1>talked to you soon. Bye. Lucy showed up at um

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<v Speaker 1>Our show a couple of nights ago with Ted dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, hey, because she writes with Ted's

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<v Speaker 1>wife Mary, And so Ted Dancing shows up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to see cool people, most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's cool. But it was Ted dancing. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's freaking Ted dancing. It's like Cheers, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Becker, and so I was like, dude, I get

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<v Speaker 1>a picture. It was like sure, And then I got

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<v Speaker 1>out on stage and everybody look his dead dancing. He

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<v Speaker 1>was nice, oh, super nice and really good looking. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it is Mary. He's one of them. Really mind And

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<v Speaker 1>I hated to cut you off there. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to put Lucy let keep ringing. Oh yeah, you have

1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.679
<v Speaker 1>your you have your your clutch with you. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, you don't really have time to

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<v Speaker 1>think or do much except walk forward. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>brought my clutch and Jennifer Garner's trying to help me

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<v Speaker 1>open it for like what seemed like an eternity, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a note card inside and all it

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<v Speaker 1>said was like the names of people like my manager

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously like my mom and dad, and these are

1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the only people I got to Um, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah, I had just come off this like high

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<v Speaker 1>from performing, and that was such a gigantic performance, just

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<v Speaker 1>so much energy on stage and so much music, and

1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I was just firing on all cylinders. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>got off stage with all this adrenaline and they were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to see you really quick because they're about

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<v Speaker 1>to do best New Artists. And I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just catching my breath and then they called my name

1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:02.479
<v Speaker 1>and was it weird to hear your name? Yeah? It was.

1:10:03.000 --> 1:10:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was in the twilight zone for

1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:09.559
<v Speaker 1>a second, because you have those dreams kind of since

1:10:10.000 --> 1:10:13.479
<v Speaker 1>you were a kid. And then I heard her say

1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it and yeah, I mean you see it in my face,

1:10:16.200 --> 1:10:21.080
<v Speaker 1>just the utter shock and um I I got my

1:10:21.200 --> 1:10:26.120
<v Speaker 1>clutch and hugged Ryan, hugged Stapleton, and walked up there,

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<v Speaker 1>luckily without tripping, and I just couldn't. I mean, it

1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was almost going to be one of those cries that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get words out, and I was dancing on

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<v Speaker 1>that line, but I was just overcome with emotion and

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<v Speaker 1>my parents being in the audience too, and I bought

1:10:45.760 --> 1:10:51.040
<v Speaker 1>them seats, but they were like further back, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I knew. I was like trying to find them

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<v Speaker 1>in the crowd. I couldn't but um, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>see the the time thing ticking down. It's like, okay,

1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you have four seconds left to say thank you to

1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:05.519
<v Speaker 1>all these people that got you there, And UM, yeah,

1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't fit everyone in, but I feel like I

1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:11.639
<v Speaker 1>got the really important people. And um, that was Ryan's

1:11:11.640 --> 1:11:14.600
<v Speaker 1>birthday that night, so it was just like a double celebration.

1:11:15.080 --> 1:11:18.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I didn't have prepared that I was in

1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a bar a year prior. But I was thinking about

1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that all night that I was sitting in. Now that

1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:27.680
<v Speaker 1>gave me chills because it wasn't just about you or

1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the industry or that moment. It was about what everyone watching.

1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I could look at and go, you know, every long

1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:40.960
<v Speaker 1>journey does start with a step, and here's that journey,

1:11:41.040 --> 1:11:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and here's a step, and now are you freaking are?

1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And what can happen in a year? I wonder as

1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:52.919
<v Speaker 1>your parents are sitting in the crowd, and they've allowed

1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and encouraged you, like and it's hard when you love

1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:58.160
<v Speaker 1>someone a lot for that love to grow, But has

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<v Speaker 1>the love grown as you've areciated more what they did

1:12:01.200 --> 1:12:04.680
<v Speaker 1>for you? When you were younger. Oh yeah, absolutely. It's

1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:08.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of that mentality when you, uh, you live with

1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:12.040
<v Speaker 1>your parents and you're so ready to move out and

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<v Speaker 1>like go be an adult, and then you're like a

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<v Speaker 1>few years into paying all your own bills and you're like, wow,

1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:23.639
<v Speaker 1>they really took care of me. And then I'm sure

1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it changes even more when you get married and have

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<v Speaker 1>kids and you're like, oh my god, my parents were

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<v Speaker 1>right and the same thing happened, you know, because I

1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:36.800
<v Speaker 1>was sort of a child performer. And now I'm you know,

1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:40.600
<v Speaker 1>going on twenty seven soon, and I think about my

1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:43.320
<v Speaker 1>parents and the sacrifices they've made because we didn't come

1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:46.800
<v Speaker 1>from money by any means, Like my mom grew up poor. Um,

1:12:47.720 --> 1:12:51.360
<v Speaker 1>just like very humble beginnings. I never had any sort

1:12:51.400 --> 1:12:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of hand out and neither did they. And they would still,

1:12:56.000 --> 1:13:00.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, pay the band when the owner of the

1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:03.920
<v Speaker 1>crappy club would stuff us our money, they would pay

1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:07.680
<v Speaker 1>out of their own pocket. That was not deep And um,

1:13:08.040 --> 1:13:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I I think about everything that they sacrificed their time,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes they had fun doing it too, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, it's like they they really

1:13:19.960 --> 1:13:25.400
<v Speaker 1>did give up everything. So on a whim just a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven year old, twelve year old that like to sing,

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<v Speaker 1>could do it in front of a few people, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just snowballed. So yeah, I definitely think about that

1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:37.720
<v Speaker 1>now and have so much better appreciation for all my

1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:41.519
<v Speaker 1>parents did for me and UM. And it's not even

1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:44.559
<v Speaker 1>about money, it's not about anything. It's just about giving

1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:48.400
<v Speaker 1>your kid the tools to think something of themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very passionate about like fine artis education because I

1:13:53.360 --> 1:13:55.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to like a cool or like nice school.

1:13:55.960 --> 1:13:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I went to public school was kind of ghetto, and

1:14:00.520 --> 1:14:02.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, it just it didn't have a fine arts

1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:05.880
<v Speaker 1>program that was anything really Like I did theater and

1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.479
<v Speaker 1>choir and stuff, but there was just no funding to

1:14:08.640 --> 1:14:11.560
<v Speaker 1>do anything. But I was so lucky at home to

1:14:11.640 --> 1:14:16.200
<v Speaker 1>have parents that believed in my love for music and

1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:19.479
<v Speaker 1>UM gave me that platform to be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of kids like they want

1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:25.599
<v Speaker 1>to go to school to escape home because maybe at

1:14:25.640 --> 1:14:28.200
<v Speaker 1>home no one does believe in them, or it's put

1:14:28.280 --> 1:14:30.800
<v Speaker 1>on the other kid, or there's just no one home.

1:14:31.080 --> 1:14:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think about, you know, when you go to school,

1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like the people there that are supposed to be like

1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>enriching you creatively. Uh it just gets less and less,

1:14:41.080 --> 1:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel every year. So I was really lucky in

1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:49.120
<v Speaker 1>those formidable ages to have parents that really gave a

1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:53.040
<v Speaker 1>ship about me. Um. So yeah, I'm I'm excited. My

1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:54.879
<v Speaker 1>mom is going to be my date to the Grammys,

1:14:55.800 --> 1:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, we've been going back and forth about what

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<v Speaker 1>we're wearing and um yeah, I mean she's earned that

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<v Speaker 1>spot just as much as I. The emotion coming from

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<v Speaker 1>her voice when you talk about them really, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stay cool. I've cried enough at the c

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<v Speaker 1>m As, so you're trying to keep it together now.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm excited for them to come out to that,

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<v Speaker 1>because they came out to the c m As, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time it's like my mom and dad and sister Carson,

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<v Speaker 1>my younger sister. She's never gotten to come to an

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<v Speaker 1>award show, so it's like their first time at that

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<v Speaker 1>and it's freaking Grammys. So and yet for four Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I texted Kelsey Um the morning the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement came out about the nominations, and it was so early,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I may have been like the first

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<v Speaker 1>person to tell her. I don't know. I might be

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<v Speaker 1>taking that credit, but I texted her the second I

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<v Speaker 1>found out that we were both up for Best New Artists,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, we're going to Hollywood and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was just like astounded that I got

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<v Speaker 1>nominated in that category. But also it's so cool to

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<v Speaker 1>like have this full circle moment with artists like Keith

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<v Speaker 1>where you took me out on tour and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>both up for Best Album and to be in these

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<v Speaker 1>categories with like Thomas Rhett and I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so cool to see these like buddies of mine. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like we all are coming up together, and especially artists

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<v Speaker 1>like Kelsey. It's like we are in this class of

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<v Speaker 1>new artists and it's cool to have these wins and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wins that night, um honestly, like it sounds cliche,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think just being nominated, I mean, think

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<v Speaker 1>about the thousands of write in forms um entries that

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<v Speaker 1>were given to these awards shows and the Grammys, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think about they narrowed it down to five and

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a huge win in itself. Vote I voted

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I had a mail bag. Yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to overnight it. Yeah. Yeah, it was like I

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<v Speaker 1>cut it really close, um, because I've I've been gone

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<v Speaker 1>like for the last few weeks. Um. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>voted the day before yesterday. I'll keep all the country

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out of it, but I voted for Adele on

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<v Speaker 1>about every single pop he did. Yeah. I think Hello

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<v Speaker 1>should have won just about every yeah, major song or

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<v Speaker 1>pop category. Yeah. I mean that was like the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>song of last year for sure. I mean they just

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<v Speaker 1>engulfed all of all time and space, Yeah, YouTube, radio, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a showdown, I think. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. I mean the thing about Beyonce's though

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<v Speaker 1>hers didn't crossover as much into just the regular mainstream well,

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<v Speaker 1>people walking down the street, every dude who is forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old new Hello. Oh yeah. Yeah. In just

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like knowing music and it being commercial, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean Adele sold eight million copies. I

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<v Speaker 1>think of school, yeah too. I mean she's doing it

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<v Speaker 1>from a place of and she reaches I think a

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<v Speaker 1>wider age spectrum to like you go to her show

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<v Speaker 1>and you see people like our age and then you

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<v Speaker 1>see nine year olds. They're both winners. Let's not Liveners.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're doing all right, Mike and the un asked

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<v Speaker 1>and before we wrap her up, how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>the call to do SNL? What happens? Um? So the

1:18:46.760 --> 1:18:48.640
<v Speaker 1>way that happened was after the c M A S.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the talent booker for SNL he saw my

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<v Speaker 1>performance and it was so last minute because they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find the last two or three artists for

1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>their last few shows of the season, and they reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to me because they had they had heard about

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<v Speaker 1>me for you know, the whole year. It's like Helton

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<v Speaker 1>finally he put the word in. Um. Yeah, all those

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<v Speaker 1>like TV talent bookers know each other and they're all

1:19:17.240 --> 1:19:19.560
<v Speaker 1>like vying for the new artists or whoever. It's like

1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>very competitive and like crazy. But SNL is such um

1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>an esteemed music breaking show, and they have fewer episodes

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<v Speaker 1>than like obviously Good Morning America blah blah blah, Jimmy

1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Fallon um that they they're just so picky and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have country artists on their all that often.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last country artist they had Margot Price

1:19:43.600 --> 1:19:48.519
<v Speaker 1>this year and then Stapleton and yeah, yeah, I always

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<v Speaker 1>get nervous for live stuff just because it's live and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, with SNL, it's just so legendary. Did

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<v Speaker 1>it in Like I'm a huge comedy guy, so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but even I used of the music that's been broken

1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:04.240
<v Speaker 1>there that you walk around looking the pictures in the

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<v Speaker 1>walls and take it in. Yeah, I looked at the pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>Like in my dressing room was all the musical guests

1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that had been there, and um yeah, just walking down

1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the hallway and seeing these cast pictures from every season

1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and seeing like you know, the Will Ferrell's and then

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<v Speaker 1>um seeing like I don't know, there's so many um

1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:26.479
<v Speaker 1>down the hallway and like the first cast and like

1:20:26.640 --> 1:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>seventy five having like Dan Ackroyd and Chevy Chase. It

1:20:30.400 --> 1:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>was so cool to see the history. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I've just started like getting into Dirty Rock and

1:20:38.400 --> 1:20:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it walking the hallways of SNL and like NBC Rockefeller,

1:20:42.640 --> 1:20:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's just crazy to feel like you're in that

1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:49.720
<v Speaker 1>show and it's just yeah, like seeing Keenan walk by,

1:20:50.040 --> 1:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh my god, Like Bobby moynahan like doing

1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the thank you at the end and like turning around

1:20:55.479 --> 1:20:58.599
<v Speaker 1>and talking to the cast and you're like you're Bobby moynahan.

1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And then we went to the after party and it

1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>was already so late, like way past my bedtime, and

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<v Speaker 1>um we went to the restaurant where it was at

1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and we just like sort of formed our own party

1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:14.639
<v Speaker 1>at the after party, like my friends and the band

1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And then we, uh, We're like, oh crap,

1:21:18.360 --> 1:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like four in the morning. We're like we need

1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to go, and UM, I was like, I'm gonna just

1:21:23.160 --> 1:21:25.760
<v Speaker 1>check to see who's left in here, and it was

1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Bear, who was so cool, and then Lauren Michaels

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<v Speaker 1>out at four and I We've been running around the

1:21:36.560 --> 1:21:40.200
<v Speaker 1>past two days like at s NL that and the

1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:43.400
<v Speaker 1>cast is everywhere, but I never saw Lauren, but everyone

1:21:43.479 --> 1:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>else in my camp did, like they were like, oh yeah,

1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he's just always hanging know, he's watching every skit, and um,

1:21:48.560 --> 1:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I haven't. I haven't gotten to meet

1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>him yet. And I'm just a huge fan. He's just

1:21:52.680 --> 1:21:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a legend. And so I I was like, do I

1:21:57.720 --> 1:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>need to walk over? Like I'm gonna walk over. I'm

1:21:59.840 --> 1:22:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just gonna do it. He's with his family, I think,

1:22:02.280 --> 1:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's four am and he's still rocking at this

1:22:06.080 --> 1:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>after party and it's winding down, obviously, but I go

1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>over and he sees me walking towards him and he's like,

1:22:13.680 --> 1:22:16.479
<v Speaker 1>oh hey, he's like a great job tonight, that was awesome,

1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:19.720
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being here. And I said, well, thank

1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:23.519
<v Speaker 1>you for having us. I mean, this is truly like

1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll never forget this. This has been a dream on

1:22:27.600 --> 1:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>all of our bucket lists. And he was like, you

1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>live in Nashville, right, My daughter goes to school there.

1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And we just chatted for like a minute, and then

1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'll leave you back to your your dinner,

1:22:38.280 --> 1:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>but um, thank you for having us. And I walked

1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:44.599
<v Speaker 1>out and I was like, I cannot believe the last

1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>person I saw in this place was Lorne Michaels. And

1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but he's been doing the show for so long. That's

1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>their schedule except for a brief period of time, the

1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>whole time, like he started it and came back, then

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<v Speaker 1>when it went down, he came back, and so he's

1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>used to just staying up that mare and it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to have you. This has been fun for it's been

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<v Speaker 1>fun for me. I have a wall of people that

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<v Speaker 1>I really root for it, and I don't keep them

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<v Speaker 1>all up there, but I have I just noticed this

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<v Speaker 1>Jansen and the little big town guys and Passway and

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<v Speaker 1>Keith and Kelsey and on the bottom. The latest one

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<v Speaker 1>is a hero a vinyl from you, so so cool

1:23:23.600 --> 1:23:26.479
<v Speaker 1>you always got a friend. Well, I'm glad that we

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<v Speaker 1>got to do this. I've been wanting to for a while.

1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>You get too big. I couldn't get it, couldn't get

1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you in glow trotting all over the world. I congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on this so fun. Thank you Marion Morris, and buy

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<v Speaker 1>the record and if you hear this one, the next

1:23:44.720 --> 1:23:47.120
<v Speaker 1>record is out. It's fantastic, because second record is amazing.

1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're hearing this then it trust me,

1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just as good a European dance rock. She finally

1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:58.160
<v Speaker 1>did it, fantastic redid the Dinosaurs song So episode thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna go Marion Morris and we'll see you got next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksas