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Find the one 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: nearest you by calling eight hundred next bed. Be sure 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: to tell them that Bobby Bones told you all about them, 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: all right, Welcome to episode thirty one of the Bobby Cast. 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: And then this the first one, first second one of 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: the year, right, second of year. Marion Morris is here. Hi, 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: May finally, good to have you at the house, beautiful house. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh thanks. I put you off for a while because 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: you're too good to come in for a while. I 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: felt like, I don't know about interview, Stal, but I thought, 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, I want to hold off because it was 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: right when you were blowing up and this last year, 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: and it's weird because I want to go back for 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: a second. But this last year feels like it has 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: been a tornado of just the tornado of Marion. Does 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: it feel like that to you as well? Yeah? It does. 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: And I'm still processing, even after the holidays, still processing 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: everything that had happened last year because it is too 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: many things I think to be in one window of time. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: But I yeah, my my head is still getting wrapped 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: around everything, especially towards the end of the year. I 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: feel like so much crazy stuff happened. If we were 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: sitting in these chairs a year ago today, so January 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: of and I would say, hey, what is your goal 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: this year? Like a year ago, what would you have 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: said your goal was a year ago? Well, a year ago, Um, 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I just put Church out like it had just gone 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: to radio. So that's just like a crazy concept. But 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I guess my hope a year ago was I hope 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: people like my music enough for me to put this 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: record out, because it's all really contingent on that um. 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: And luckily, you know, people really responded to my Church, 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: and I had Hero already waiting in the wings, and 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: once it started to pick up traction, Um, we got 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: an album at date and that was just an album. Yea. 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: Even to get an album for a new artist in 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: the land of EPs first where they'll put out four 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: or five songs kind of and you did that, but yeah, um, 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: but to get an album, that's a big deal because 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: that's a commitment financially from a record label. It is. 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: It's it's a very big deal. And I've had so 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: many friends in this town that have had record deals 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: where they're so good and they've made these full records, 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: but then they get shelved and they never come out 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: or see the light of day. So there's always that 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: fear that like, oh, of this doesn't get bought enough 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: or spun enough on the radio, I won't get to 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: share the larger story, the whole story with everyone. And 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm very lucky that that did not happen. 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: But um yeah, I was just I had I had 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: already basically had most of the album done before I 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: signed my label deal, so it was sitting for a 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: while and I was just like, Okay, my church is 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: going to be the first hello to the universe, I think. 74 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: And then, um was that part of the deal when 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: you signed with the label, like I'm coming and I 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: want this to be the first song because you have 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of negotiating power if you're coming with 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: music and uh success digitally like you had. Yeah, and 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to be developed or anything. A lot 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: of baby artists they have to they're signed, and they 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: don't do these deals so much anymore because it's just not, 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: um financially great for the label anymore. But um yeah, 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: if you are already developed and you have like a 84 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: concept and you're just really solid in your artist rye, 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: you don't need to be told what to do or 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: what to where, or how to speak or how to sound. 87 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Um yeah, it's a much less riskier um investment for them. 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: So my Church was going to be your first single 89 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: before you signed with anyone in your mind? Yeah, yeah, 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: Like the day I wrote it, I kind of knew 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: that was the one. So what if you would have said, Okay, 92 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: we're here and they're like, you know, we're gonna hold off, 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: We're gonna go with drunk girls, don't cry, or they did. 94 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: They actually not drunk roles. They wanted to lead with eighties. 95 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: My label was like, I think we should hold off 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: on My Church. Um, I think it was so long ago. 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: It feels like it was so long ago. But their 98 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: reason was they they felt like that was the ace 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: up their sleeve and they wanted to throw it out 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: later and just get the like the party song out 101 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: of the way. You know a lot of artists, like 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: their labels do that where they'll put the the fun, 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: good time song out and then okay, now people know 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: who you are, Now we can show them how credible 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: you are with this song. And um, I just didn't 106 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: really feel like I wanted to go that route because 107 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: it didn't make sense to me. I was like, if 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: honestly the odds are against me, I'm a new artist 109 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: and I'm a girl. So if I'm going to come 110 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: out with one and one only because this could very 111 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: easily die, Um, I'm going to do the song that 112 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: means the most to me and says all I want 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: to say if I only got one shot with a song. 114 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: So a year ago, I say, Okay, what's your goal 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: this year? Um? I think what we're here one year 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: ago right now, Mary, and what's your goal this year? 117 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: You're you're a brand new Warters, you get nothing. Song 118 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: just came out, like, what's your goal this year? I 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: think my goal was just for people to understand my 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: perspective because I don't know. I that sounds very vague, 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to, I guess, test the waters 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: and see if you know, just being an artist was 123 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: even going to be working for anyone outside of my 124 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: own head. It's like, ah, and I hate to, you know, 125 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: put so much stock into what others think, but it's 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: like that that's what you do. It's like your music, 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: but the reason you write it is so other people 128 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: can relate to it and have that experience with you 129 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: and as a human being. And so I just hoped 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: a year ago, God, I I hope someone likes this. 131 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I like it, but I hope someone else gets it too. 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: What was your perspective if you say you wanted your 133 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: perspective out there, I don't know. I mean I think 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: what I was missing from music, especially like from the 135 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: female outlook, was just um an independence. And I I'm 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: not trying to be like a dude basher by any means. 137 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: I adore love songs and I've written hundreds of them, 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: but I was just at the time of this record 139 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: being written, I wasn't really in love. I was coming 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: out of a really bad relationship, and um, I think 141 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: as a woman, I just wanted to be inspired when 142 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: I turned the radio on and here like a woman 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: singing back to me, not about a relationship for once. 144 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: You know it's and that's fine if they are, but 145 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: I feel like the diversity is sort of lacking where 146 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well we do have a little bit 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: more to talk about here. I mean, dang, like talk 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: about getting drunk or or a fight you had with 149 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: your mom or something. It's just like a real life 150 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: experience instead of always chasing the guy down. And I just, um, 151 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I I was obviously was like very bitter back then 152 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: thinking that, but I still think that today, and I'm 153 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone I really love and gets 154 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: what I'm doing and isn't threatened by a powerful women 155 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: or strength or success. I still crave that perspective from 156 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: a female, um, where it's just not about love, it 157 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: could be about anything. Um yeah, I think that's the 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: perspective I wanted to bring to the table is um, 159 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like I don't have my sight 160 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: set on marriage or like having a baby right now. 161 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: It's like I'm in my mid twenties and that's a 162 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: really special time because uh the generational pull from like, 163 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, when my mom was my age, she when 164 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: she was my age now she already had a five 165 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: year old me and I it's bizarre to think about 166 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: that now. But I just didn't. I didn't. I feel 167 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: like I'm rambling. I I just want to do all 168 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: you want of Um yeah, I just I forget where 169 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I was going. I feel like I led myself down 170 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: a rabbit trail. But um yeah, I just I feel 171 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: like that's the perspective I was craving and the perspective 172 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: I thought I was bringing at the table. You're getting 173 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: a lot of you, and you are getting it now 174 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: a lot of females, even mails that are going to 175 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: use you as something in their life to aim toward 176 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: or to have you as a peer. Who for you 177 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: are those important peers that have kind of put you 178 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: in the place where you are now. Yeah, Um, I 179 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: have so many, but to sort of like rattle off 180 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: some like current ones that I'm like very inspired by 181 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: right now. I mean Miranda Lambert. She put out a 182 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: weight of these Wings and I think it's incredible. And 183 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: I have always really, in I guess, looked up to 184 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: her in a way because you know, she's like a 185 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: fellow Texan and she's just a badass, and she is 186 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: an amazing songwriter, and I feel like she's a very 187 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: powerful woman. But she's also not afraid to be vulnerable 188 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: or sensitive, um and wrong. I really like her her 189 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: writing style. And I love Chris Stapleton, I love Thomas 190 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: rhet I just like I really and Sam Hunt. I 191 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: like people that are not afraid to be different. And 192 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: whether that's um, you know, being the bad guy in 193 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: the song, or paying tribute to traditions of the past 194 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: sounds in country, or paving the way for the new 195 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: sound because it's ever changing I'm inspired by artists that 196 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: are not copies of other people. Don you ever get 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: into a room and write with someone and you're like, 198 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm writing with this person, Like this 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: is what what planted am I on? Yeah, I've had 200 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of those experiences, just as a songwriter who 201 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: a young songwriter, because I had never really had any 202 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: radio success as a songwriter until my Church and that 203 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: was obviously my own song. But um, I got into room, 204 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: was with like some really amazing people, and um, I remember, 205 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: like the biggest artist I got to write with was 206 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Carrie Underwood and that was like two and a half 207 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: or three years ago, and I would be surprised if 208 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: she even remembers it because it was so long ago 209 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: and she was writing so much for that Storyteller album. Um, 210 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and then she ah, she invited me to come out 211 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: to her writing cabin, and I was so scared because 212 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I I had never written with an artist that gigantic before, 213 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and I was just like, I don't even know the drill, honestly, 214 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: Like I've written a ton of songs, but I don't. 215 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't, and I've listened to her music, so I 216 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: feel like I have a gist on you know, what 217 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: she what she wants to say. But I I definitely 218 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: was a sweaty palm to meeting her because that was 219 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the first time I met her was to write she's 220 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: pretty disarming though, Yeah, and I'm doing a chance to 221 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: get to create pretty well over the last if first 222 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: kind of she's intimidating because she's very cool Wyatt. Yeah, 223 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, she met does she not like me? 224 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: But then you realize she's just soft until she's not, 225 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: and then she's just awesome. Yeah, but she can be 226 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: intimidating for a second. Well, yeah, it's intimidating because I 227 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: mean she's I feel like she's always been famous and 228 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: it's like from American Idol to Jesus take the Wheel 229 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: to now there's really she's never had a down swing 230 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: in her career. Really. Um So yeah, you walk in 231 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my gosh, this is like the 232 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: carry Underwood. And I had been around so many artists 233 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: as a writer, but you still get like sort of 234 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: jarred when you see people in person. But like after 235 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: a few seconds, you know she like the ice was 236 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: broken and she had a ton of great titles and 237 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: ideas and we wrote two songs that day, and um yeah, 238 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: that was one of the first Like whoa, I'm like 239 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: in the room with this person. Were you eating off 240 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: of songwriting at that point? Like you're paying your bills 241 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: and groceries because you're writing songs. Yeah, Um that was 242 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm still in my first publishing deal. This is my 243 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: last year before that option, but um yeah, that was 244 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: like the first year I had my publishing deals, so 245 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, not banking by any means, 246 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: but definitely living off of the songwriter draw. I have 247 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: a lot of songwriters that come to the house too 248 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: and we talk and uh leey. Thomas Miller, who was 249 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: one of my dear friends, came and we talked for 250 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: an hour and a half or so. When he said 251 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: to him and Chris Stapleton every other Wednesday for three 252 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: years wrote together for three years. Every other Wednesday, they 253 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: just went and wrote and that was just their thing. 254 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: Do you have any friends partners like that that you're 255 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: right with on a regular basis that you're like, hey, 256 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: we we just have to stay and kind of get 257 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: into a groove and and stay in the groove. Or 258 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: you call and you're like, I have something. You know, 259 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: you're kind of my partner in writing. Yeah, I have 260 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: a few people like that because, um, I don't know, 261 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Nashville is so rich in that way. 262 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you can have a writing partner, but in Nashville, 263 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: it's so collaborative that you you really do right with 264 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: so many people that are your favorites. So, um, Buzzby 265 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: is a big one for me. He uh really just 266 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: pulled something out of me that I didn't even know 267 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: was there when we started writing for Hero you know, 268 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: back then, I didn't realize we were writing for my 269 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: future record. But um, yeah, he's incredible because he's just 270 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: like a freak of nature when it comes to music. 271 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: And uh he's an incredible like soulful singer and piano 272 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: player and um yeah, so he and he's just the best. 273 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I feel like he we're sort of like an old 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: married couple when we write, like it's just the two 275 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: of us and we'll like start something and we won't 276 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: talk for the next three or four hours. He'll start 277 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: working on some like beat or track and building that, 278 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: and then I'll be working on the lyric and melody 279 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: in my head, you know, with my laptop in the 280 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: corner and then like three hours later he'll turn around 281 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: from his console and be like, are you ready to 282 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: say ing? And I'd be like, I guess, I go 283 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: up to the microphone. And then you know eighties Mercedes 284 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and that's so that's a song from YouTube that where 285 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: that happened where you guys sat and it kind of 286 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: came together that way. Yeah, And doesn't he have like 287 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: a weird like back shed like Buzzby, like where you 288 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: work out of it and it's kind of his little space. Yeah, 289 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: you walk out through his backyard and it's very quaint 290 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: and it's just like a little shed. And that's where 291 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: he wrote eighties Um. And then he is based in 292 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: l A. So he has a Nashville and in l 293 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: A house. But we wrote My Church and how It's 294 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Done and once for the record out in l A. 295 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: He worked with Keith a lot too, which all my 296 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: world's collide because Keith's actually a friend of mine. And 297 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: and you went on tour with Keith and I guess 298 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I was watching your snapchat and ended up getting picked 299 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: up by the blogs. But it looked like a batmobile 300 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: that he sent you. Yeah, I don't know that it 301 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: was actually a batmobile, but just like a crazy car 302 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: as a what was that's an auto cycle? Um it, yeah, 303 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: you're telling me. I didn't know what it was either, 304 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: because I thought he was kidding. Um it's a polarist 305 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: sling shot. What are you supposed to park that? That's 306 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: like you must want a dog. Like, here's your gift. 307 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: There's a Dalmatian. You're like, well, it's really cool about 308 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: what I do with it? Yeah exactly. It was one 309 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: of those like and just insanely generous gifts where you're like, 310 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: oh crap, like I don't have a compound to put 311 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: this on im, Like I don't have, um a garage, 312 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: like I live in East Nashville, like Inglewood. So I 313 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: was trying to picture that parked in the driveway there. 314 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: But then everyone knows where you live too, becauseile exactly. Yeah, 315 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: you want to go see where man lives, just check 316 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: out the three yor old motorcycle in the driveway. Um. Yeah. 317 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: It was so funny the way he presented it too. 318 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: He like handed me this rolled up piece of paper 319 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: and a really sweet note on the last day of 320 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: the tour, which we were in Brooklyn, and he was like, 321 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: thank you, so much for being out here, and he's 322 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: just like the nicest guy. And he like had this 323 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: rolled up piece of paper and it had like a 324 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: ribbon around it, and I took the ribbon off and 325 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: like unrolled it and it's a picture of this sling 326 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: shot car thing. And UM, I was really confused because 327 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe he got me like a 328 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: ride in this thing, like I go to a yeah, 329 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: take this sling shot tour around Nashville. Um, And he's like, 330 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: have you ever been in a sling shot? I can't 331 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: do an Australian accent, but I was like what He's like, 332 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: have you ever ridden in one of these things? And 333 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: I was like no, why how would I? Why would I? UM? 334 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, you're giving this to me. 335 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I got you in brett One And 336 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: I was just in shock, like I've never gotten anything 337 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: um at that magnitude. I mean, it's just insane and 338 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: so generous. And we definitely had a ball with it 339 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: or on Christmas Day with my my family. Where is 340 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: it now? It's in Texas so Yans room. It's like 341 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: the dog, you gave it a field to run in, right, Yeah? Exactly? 342 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: Ryan and I hold it down to Texas for Christmas, 343 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: and um my dad is basically helping store it, slash 344 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: using it. Um, yeah, he was freaking out that he 345 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: gets to take care of that thing. Just a sidebar 346 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: on Keith, like, really and this is a show Bears 347 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: town as much as Los Angeles is. I mean, it 348 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: really is the show Bears town. But Keith is as 349 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: nice and as genuine, even more so than he seems 350 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: on TV or radio or anywhere else. Yeah, he is. 351 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: And he is another one of those people that's like 352 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: really jarring to meet in person because you know, I've 353 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: been listening to Keith's records, you know, since you know, 354 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Golden Road, since before that album actually like black Top 355 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. And so when he called 356 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: me about the tour and then I met him to 357 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: announce the tour with Brett, and yeah, it's just insane 358 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: how authentic he is and that famous and then the 359 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: weird famous, and then there's like that kind of famous 360 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: where you are known by most of the world. We 361 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: were in my girlfriend I went to Australia and I 362 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: was never going to tell the story, and then he 363 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of busted my balls for not telling it because 364 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: I was given. I was kind of making fun of 365 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Sydney a bit. And we were in Sydney this last 366 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: vacation and we went for Christmas and I've never been 367 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: to Australia and so we go and he was in Sydney. 368 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: He texted me, goes, hey are you here? And I 369 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, saw you come over to the house. 370 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: We're having a Christmas party. And I want to go 371 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: over to someone's house on Christmas. I'm just not someone 372 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: who goes into people's space anyway. I like to stay out. 373 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I just don't like to impose more than anything. And 374 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I really appreciate it, but I'm not. And 375 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: I know he's genuine because he's just a good dude. 376 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: The next day texted me again, he goes, hey, you 377 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: have to come over having Nicole and I having a 378 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: Christmas party. Come over to the house. And so we're 379 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: in Australia. Keith Urban has Lindsay and myself and we 380 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: go over and there's a big his dinner and it's 381 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: like Nicole's mom and his mom and family. And I'm 382 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: telling you, we could have been a cousin or something. 383 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: He just sit down with us and we just all 384 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: talked for like an hour and it was just like 385 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: the most and I'm not normal because I'm just kind 386 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: of a peculiar guy. It was just like a real 387 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: nice human thing that I don't think people I think rich, 388 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: famous people are anymore and he is I think, um 389 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: like being like a family man and just his connection 390 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: with his fans, and I don't know, I sort of 391 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: saw behind the scenes, like the way he takes care 392 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: of his crew, and he like got his production manager 393 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: with Baja is his nickname, and he's like seventy years old, 394 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: and he's loud and hilarious and always took care of us. 395 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Keith got him like the segue five years ago, and 396 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: he would always just like drive it around. And you 397 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: see like what he does for his crew that have 398 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: been with him and are loyal to him, and there's 399 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: just like this unspoken bond between everybody that that respects him, 400 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's just like it sounds like he's 401 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: the best boss to work for and it's because he 402 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: he really cares about these people. And there's a lot 403 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: of people I'd asked him, I said, hey, what's the 404 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: deal with country music in Australia. He goes it's nowhere, 405 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, So what do you mean. He goes, 406 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: it's like jazz in America. You have to go to 407 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: the AM dial and hopefully you find some. And it's like, man, 408 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: I want to I was like, well, how did you 409 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: get played? He goes, I don't. It's just I'm cool 410 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: in America to some people, so now I'm cool over here. 411 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: But he was like, yeah, I don't get played anywhere. 412 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: He said it was exciting to him because him and 413 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: Carrie saw on The Fighter had just started getting played 414 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: on like Pop and a C stations. He was like, 415 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: it's great, mit, it's you know, and so it was 416 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: cool that kind see him think something was cool again. Yeah, 417 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: that's crazy thing in your career, like that tour for 418 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: you though. With Keith though, you really didn't have anything out. 419 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: He just heard some stuff, right, Yeah. Very early on 420 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: he um pulled the trigger and he I think his 421 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: manager sent me or sent him a couple of my 422 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: songs and they were they weren't even on iTunes yet. 423 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: They were just like floating around. And Keith heard my 424 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Church in eighties and I think it was probably the 425 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: EP and he called his manager and he's like, can 426 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: we get this girl for the tour, and and he 427 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: was like, who wrote these songs and the like she did, 428 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: and so he was like, Okay, yeah, we need to 429 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: get this this girl out here. And yeah, that phone 430 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: call was crazy because I was like, Okay. I was 431 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: just like, you know, put us a single out and 432 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, hope hopefully it goes up the chart. And 433 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: then to have that insurance of being on a tour 434 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: later in the year, Um, it's just it made everything's 435 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: fall into place so well and so much easier. And 436 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: I feel like he just really he saw something in 437 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: me so early on before everyone jumped in. And I 438 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's a gigantic risk to bring 439 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: out a brand new artist who's never toured before. Um, 440 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: what a tour for your first tour, I know, yeah exactly. 441 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: I feel kind of spoiled. It's like, okay, we're just 442 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: going right up here to Keith urban Um. But I 443 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: learned so much, just like I had twenty five minutes 444 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: to really make an impact on his crowd. And I 445 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: feel like from the first show to the sixtie show, 446 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: because it was a long tour, I got so much 447 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: more comfortable on stage. I have more fun now on 448 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: stage and he kind of set the parameters for me 449 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: to achieve that, and I feel like, yeah, I just 450 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: have so much more of a blast on stage now 451 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: because I'm not afraid of it and I can walk 452 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: out in front of twenty people and not. I mean, 453 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm still nervous, but I'm not as nervous. So it 454 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: feels like the last six months, you know, you're out 455 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: and you're on TV and you're doing interviews. So that's 456 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: the part that we've known of you is the last 457 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: six months to year. But I don't have any idea 458 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: how you grew up, Like, I don't know, like you're five, 459 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: six years old, what's what's the house like? Um? You 460 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: know my parents were like working middle class. They own 461 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: a small hair salon in Arlenton, Texas. Yeah, yep. My 462 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: mom still stands behind the chair and cuts hair. Is 463 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: she extra cool now like to her clients everyone? Yeah, 464 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be okay. Um yeah, I 465 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: think like they sort of caught a second wind in life. 466 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: It was like they've supported me for so long and 467 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: then all this stuff to be happening now, Um yeah, 468 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: I mean they just couldn't be prouder and they were 469 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: at the c m As and they're going to come 470 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: to the Grammys. They're is freaking out about everything as 471 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: parents do, and but yeah, they still work and they 472 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: come out to everything that they can, and uh, yeah, 473 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: I just grew up in a home whereas like my 474 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: parents weren't they didn't. My mom liked to sing karaoke. 475 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: She would like win karaoke contests at bars. Do you 476 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: think that when your mom would win karaoke contests? I 477 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: didn't think that was cool. I kind of do now. 478 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: At the time, I was like, mom, come on, don't 479 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: sing what She would sing like four non blonde. Yes, yeah, 480 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: that was a big one. She loved Dixie Chicks and Wagon, 481 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: which like a mom singing that. It's just yeah, but 482 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: she loves it. And I think, like I would watch 483 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: her and I'd be like, Okay, if if you are 484 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: having this much fun, what am I missing out on? 485 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: And um, I think I was like eight or nine 486 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: and I like I started to sing too, and um 487 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: my dad bought me a I been as acoustic guitar 488 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: when I was twelve, And I think that's just like 489 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: where it all really cultivated. It was like, okay, I 490 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: I've always loved to write. In school, I was terrible 491 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: at math and science and that I was always really 492 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: good at English and history and creative writing, and so 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: I think it just naturally was like, oh, I'll just 494 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: put these lyrics to this, like two chords, I know, 495 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: and then it was a song and not a good one, 496 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: but it was like a start, so um. But my 497 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: parents never had like a second guess about um me 498 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: doing this. It wasn't like, well, Okay, this is like 499 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: a cute hobby for now, We'll just take you to 500 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: these operies and talent shows. But then eventually like you're 501 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: gonna able to call it right like they never said that. 502 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: They were always just like on board from the get go, 503 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: which is you know, I think what kept me going. 504 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: Mary Morris is here. Blue Apron is a sponsor. Let's 505 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: talking about them for a second. So not all ingredients 506 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: are created equal. Fresh high quality ingredients make a real difference. 507 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: So it's important to know where your food comes from. 508 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: And what I have here is Blue Apron. I get 509 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: it at my house. It's affordable for less than ten 510 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: dollars per mill. 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Like, what's what's the man More School of 530 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: learning music. Yeah, my dad bought me like a chord 531 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: book where you could like look at the pictures, and 532 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: I would. I took a couple of lessons, but I just, 533 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: um was super lazy. I didn't like I didn't like 534 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: anyone teaching me how to play guitar. I was like, 535 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: this is a feel thing. So of course I can't 536 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: read music because I didn't stick with the lessons, But 537 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: I get by enough on guitar to like to write songs. 538 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: But I'm in no way John Osborne. So but by 539 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: the way, it is such a good guitar player. Yeah 540 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: he is. And people don't know that yet, Um, that 541 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: that aren't inside, but he's the best. Yeah he is. 542 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: There's an eight minute solo at the end of their 543 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: first single that it ended up, you know, not being 544 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: on the radio for eight minutes. He plays an eight 545 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: minute guitar solo on the end of what is it? 546 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: What's the first? Long? Um, it wasn't rung, No, it was. 547 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: It was their second song, Rome was the first, the 548 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: number one long Stay a little Longer. It was eight 549 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: minutes older. Oh yeah, yeah, stay a little longer and 550 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: him and it's so good too, and I've been, you know, 551 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I have just have a few personal friends and him 552 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: and Lucy Silver's are like dear friends of mine. Lucy's 553 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: just the She's I think, my only close friend I 554 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: haven't had in here yet because of my close friends. 555 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: I was like, let's just let's just hold off a bit. 556 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: But it's such a talented and nice from that group 557 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: of folks. Yeah, like John and Lucy Lucy. I went 558 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: the other night. I said, hey, and for those who 559 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: don't Lucy she um, she's New Zealand slash British slash American. 560 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Just been awesome all the way off. Yeah, she's all over. 561 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, listen, how big were you in 562 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: the UK? And she goes, well, I sold a million 563 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: records And I was like really, she was, yeah, I 564 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: sold a million records, and you know, I didn't walk 565 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: out and I said what was the big song and 566 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: she said, well, I did Metallica. Um. It was a 567 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: huge cover of a Metallica song with a full orchestra. 568 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: And I came back and I googled it and I 569 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: was like, holy crap, it was like nothing else matters, 570 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: this full orchestral Metallica song. I couldn't believe it. It 571 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: is sort of a double life that she's like, yeah, 572 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: I yeah, I please talk to her. I feel like 573 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: I know her story, but I think you will bring 574 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: something out that I'll be like, holy f Like that 575 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: happened to Bobby, Bobby, why do you ask me this? Bobby? 576 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: All the time she's sung with like Lionel Richie, like 577 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: there's always like she's so humble it's annoying, but it's 578 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: not annoying. It's like she means it and she's so 579 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: nice that you're like, Okay, you're not bragging or humble 580 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: bragging because she was telling st but Elton John, she 581 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: was like she was playing with Daniel Bettingfield. I don't 582 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: know if you know who Daniel betting I gotta get 583 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: through this. I gotta make gottah if you're not the one. Yeah, 584 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: that one she was like, I was she was playing 585 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: keys with Daniel Bettingfield for Elton John. And it was 586 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: just like in passing conversation and I was like, John, 587 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: I guess called you to have when he so what 588 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: was that? What was that about? Um? Yeah, okay, So 589 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: this that happened a few months ago or several months ago, 590 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: and I am was randomly like at home for a 591 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: few day stretch in Nashville, and I was just doing 592 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: my laundry one day at the house and Ryan I 593 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: had no witnesses to this phone call because he was 594 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: out on the front porch talking to someone on the phone. 595 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: And so I'm just like in my house doing laundry 596 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: and I had come back to my phone that was 597 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: on silent, and I had two miss calls from like 598 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: a South London number, because you know, on an iPhone 599 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: it tells you where it's from. And I was like, 600 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: that's weird. I don't know anyone over there that would 601 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: be calling me at this time of day. And my 602 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: manager texted me like two seconds later, and I could 603 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: not believe it, but she was like, Elton John is 604 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: trying to reach you. Um, And I was like, oh 605 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: my god, I just missed two phone calls from Elton John. 606 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Like what do I do? Like do I call this 607 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: number back? I'm just like I don't even know the protocol, 608 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: Like what do you do? And she was like, hold on, 609 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: let me get in touch with his publicist or something 610 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: whatever happens, and um, he called back and it was 611 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: like an unknown number now and okay, gotcha. Is that 612 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: what that means? Okay, well, I answered because I knew 613 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: who it was, and um, He's like, hey, is this 614 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Maren And I was like, oh my god, I don't 615 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: know what Okay, yes it is, and uh He's like, 616 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: oh cool, this is Elton, like no last name is 617 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm calling and I was like, oh, hi, hello, 618 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: how are you? And he was like, oh, I'm good, 619 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: just at the studio and I don't know, I just 620 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: wanted to get in touch with you to say that 621 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I got your record. I have it on vinyl. We 622 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: were listening to it at the studio the other night 623 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: and I love I love your songs and yeah, and 624 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: so I feel like, okay, I'm living out some sort 625 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: of fever dream or something. I'm sick. I think I've 626 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: it happened. I lost my mind a point. Yeah, I'm 627 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: like on mescalin full fledged in the desert and yeah, 628 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: but it sunk in and I was like I was 629 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: trying to find a response and I was just like, wow, 630 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: thank you, that's so cool. Um, I'm obviously a huge fan. 631 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, why don't I even go through the 632 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: semantics of, you know, trying to be cool. It's like, uh, 633 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: you're Elton John, so um, that's a huge honor. And 634 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: it was so random too, because I had just been 635 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: listening to his music like a few days prior, just 636 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: randomly in my iPhone. To have him call me a 637 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: couple of days later. I was like, Okay, this guy 638 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: is across the world and he's in pop music and 639 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: he's a legend. How what I wish I had asked 640 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: him was like, how did you find my music? And 641 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll never know unless I meet him again or something 642 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: or meet him, But I I don't know how he 643 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: found my album, but he had it on vinyl, so 644 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: there had to have been like some sort of like 645 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: exchange or like someone gave it to him. I don't know. 646 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: But how do you in the call of Dulton John? 647 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: And who ends it? And do you? Is there a 648 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: point where like I don't want to talk too long 649 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: because I Dulton thinks I'm just a loser. I won't 650 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: hang up right, yeah, or I just didn't want it 651 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: to ever be awkward. I was like, this can be 652 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: the shortest phone call, that's fine, um, But I was 653 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: trying to like get outside so I could put it 654 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: on speaker. So Ryan could hear it, and of course 655 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: like Elton's like, oh cool, well, cheers love. It was 656 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: so good to talk to you. Hopefully I'll see you 657 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: in the future by and then like I opened the 658 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: door and Ryan's like everything okay, And I was like, no, 659 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: no one heard this, no one witnessed it. Um, but yeah, 660 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Elton Jon called me that was pretty freaking crazy. When 661 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: you make a record like Hero which now as you 662 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: look back at it in all its pieces, and I 663 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: enjoy a record, I enjoy an album. And when I 664 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: heard it at first, it came to me as, wow, 665 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: this is a bold record now because it's so big, 666 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: and you know how it is. Bold things become a 667 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: norm once they become huge and popularity. Did you feel like, Okay, 668 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm taking such an artistic leap with this that it's 669 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: either going to just thrive or the world's not ready 670 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: for me right now? Because he wrote was a bold 671 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: record that from the songs, the sound, the textures all 672 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: for country radio. I you know, I sort of look 673 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: at the artists that have I don't know, just just 674 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: slowly chiseled away at a path where I could come 675 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: in and do something all of my own and so 676 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: I felt like there were elements of this record that 677 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: we're reaching, like Okay, this is I. I was pretty strategic, 678 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: but still like emotional in the way that I structured 679 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: the album and which songs I picked, and you know, 680 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: it's like there is a part of your brain that's like, okay, 681 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: the set list, like the track listing, how is this 682 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: going to work? And the songs that are maybe less country, 683 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: like I have to balance it with something that is 684 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: going to be palatable. And it's it's like your first 685 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: album is it's so important because it really is the 686 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: first impression. And I just felt like, yeah, this this 687 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: album is definitely a very edgy and has you know, 688 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: the words ship all over it. I don't know if 689 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: I can cuss on this podcast, Um yeah, I mean 690 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: there's like cursing, and there's there's you know, talk of 691 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: like sex and there. I don't know, it's just like 692 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: so many elements that I you know, I sort of 693 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: laid awake at night and I was like, maybe this 694 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: is not ready, like people aren't ready for this. But 695 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: then I realized I was like I can't think that 696 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: way because I think about like Miranda, and I think 697 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: about Sam and you know, Sam Hunt has had some 698 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: major freaking radio success and he's gotten like knocked against 699 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: my people who are like leading the charge for the 700 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: whole like traditional country sound. But he proved them all 701 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: wrong because that record was massively successful and it was him, 702 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: and you know, he's it's so weird that people. I 703 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: hate to like branch off for a second, but it's 704 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: it's strange that people are constantly comparing new albums to 705 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: the past because I don't know, I just I'd never 706 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: listened to music that way, where I listened to like 707 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: a pop song, and I'm like, well, this is not 708 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: like Mambo number five. You know, back in our day, 709 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: chamba wamba sounded much better than you know, yeah, oh 710 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. It's really annoying, and I constantly fight with 711 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: people to go, well that's not country, because I've been 712 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: lucky enough to be able to talk to every one 713 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: from Merle Haggard to Garth Brooks to the guys to today, 714 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: and you know what they all say. They were all 715 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: told what they did did not fit right. Then every 716 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: freaking one of them, every one of them was told 717 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: what all these dicks on all these blogs say constantly, oh, 718 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: that's not country. No one has the authority to tell 719 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: someone what something creative is. Yeah, I mean, I think 720 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: there's historical significance in the roots of country music, but 721 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: I think the roots of it have always been the 722 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: same and continue to be the same. There rooted in 723 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: honesty and truth and saying it like it is and 724 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: real life situations and heart and lyrical value. And I think, 725 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, that's in a lot of genres, but I 726 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: feel like country music is known for that and really 727 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: created that that realm. And so whether you put a 728 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: synthesizer on a song or a beat or whatever, it's like, okay, well, 729 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: Sam Hunt is you could compare him to like Conway 730 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: Twitty and even the Johnny Cash who would talk and 731 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: play quote devil rock and roll my Grandma's marks Markansas 732 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: grandlmos of people would protest him because of the Devil's 733 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: rock and roll that he would play. Patsy Klein considered 734 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: Walking After Midnight a little old pop song, That's what 735 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: she called it. She thought that was pop back then. 736 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: So you think about today and it's like, okay, well, 737 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: there's always going to be, you know, the nights of 738 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: traditional country music values. But I think at the end 739 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: of the day. It's like people want to People respond 740 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: to music that's good and that moves them. So that's 741 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: what kept me, uh confident and Hero coming out. So 742 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: if Hero would have failed, you would have blank hmm, 743 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: I would have kept writing. Yeah, I don't think anything 744 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: would have changed. Honestly, I think it would have. I 745 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: would have been discouraged, but I think I would have 746 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: kept writing. I would have kept going because I'd be like, 747 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: I loved this record and I'm proud of it no 748 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: matter what, um, whether it wins an award or someone 749 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: says it's a disgrace to country music. Um, I loved it. 750 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: And I have seen so much more of the world now, 751 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: um since putting the album out, and I feel like 752 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 1: people are I don't know, they're they're more vocal about 753 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: their love of country or maybe if they weren't a 754 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: country fan, Hero turned them onto country. And that's like 755 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: a huge honor because ah, it is a cool sort 756 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: of like Gateway drug in a way. It's like, Okay, well, 757 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: there are so many elements of country on my album, 758 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: but you can also find R and B and classic 759 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: soul and rock and pop, so many elements, but it's 760 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: all rooted in the same thing. It's rooted in honesty 761 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: and that like country lyrics structure where everything is like 762 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: air tight and the rhymes are on top of each other. 763 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's it's been cool to see uh, 764 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: different age generations connect to that album because it really 765 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: is um an album for everyone. There's there's no song alike, 766 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'm really proud of it and 767 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: I'm glad that people are are liking it too. This 768 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: is my jam right here, but i'd be rich proud 769 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: of So this is rich. That's how you why it's 770 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: my jam, and I'll have you talking about it. I 771 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: actually the personal story. So I I I'm on the 772 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: road basically every weekend, and so um I was by 773 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: the way, I'm glad you got here when you did. 774 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: I was packing. I don't know if you an't know 775 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: about packing like me, Like I have to go through 776 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: and make sure I have every piece of clothing for 777 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: every available Like Okay, daytime, I'm wearing this. In the evening, 778 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: i'll wear this, then I'll change into this, And I 779 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: have to go through all of these little clothing changes 780 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: in my head, do this and do that every week 781 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm a terrible packer. Oh, I have a 782 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: and then I have to get Then I go to 783 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: pill everything back out and count it all back in. 784 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm so o c D about everything. Yeah, but at 785 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: least you don't have to stress out about it once 786 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: and then I get I forget some a sock or something. 787 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: But I played this, And the reason I bring it 788 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: up is so I have to stand up comedy shows 789 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: this weekend, and this is a song that I played 790 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: before I go out on stage. You do, yeah, so 791 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: I play rich. So tell me about the song. Where 792 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: were you who? Concept like, give me the whole deal here. Um, 793 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: I was here in Nashville. I was at my publisher, 794 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: Big Yellow Dog, and with Jesse Joe Dillen, Laura Belts 795 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: and Jesse. Joe had told me this title like a 796 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: week prior. We were at winners Um in Midtown and 797 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: she was she's such an amazing writer, but she brought 798 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: that title as a sad song. She was like, God, 799 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: if I just want to write it, you know there 800 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: and like, if if I had a dollar for every 801 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: time you screwed me over or broke my heart, I'd 802 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 1: be rich. And I was like, damn, like, that's really good. 803 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: But then we got into the room that day with 804 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: Laura and it was like, I don't think this is 805 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,959 Speaker 1: a sad song. I think it's like a fu song. 806 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: And so we just started with this guitar riff and 807 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: Laura was playing and um, I was trying to play, 808 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: and we just started, like I guess, adding all these 809 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: crazy examples, and then we got to the second verse 810 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: and I was just threw out jokingly. I was like, 811 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: if I had a dime every time you crossed my mind, 812 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: I'd probably be sitting on a big as pile of dimes. 813 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: And I was kidding. But then they were like, I 814 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: think we should keep that because that's just funny, and um, 815 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: so we did. It's like, whatever line, whether it's stupid 816 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: or not, if you throw it out like nothing stupid, 817 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: That's what I've sort of learn and except what I 818 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: just did, drop the mic. Um, Yeah, I feel like 819 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: you just have to like put it out there and 820 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: then you can decide if it's not going to work 821 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: or not. But I like to dare to be stupid 822 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: in the writing room. But yeah, we kept that line in, 823 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's one of my favorites. On 824 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: the album too, and Favorites live because it's just the 825 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: crossing a. Yeah, the girls, I feel like young girls 826 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: really really you have a song that's just come out 827 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: of you, like like some artists will come and go, hey, 828 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: you know what the song is. It came in fifteen minutes, 829 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: like the song was there and I couldn't believe it. 830 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: Do you have any of those? Um? Yeah, I could 831 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: use a love song with sort of like that. UM 832 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: in my church we wrote really quick too, but I 833 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: could use a love song. Um. We wrote in the morning. 834 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: It's a long story, but it was like after a 835 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: couple of drinks, were all, yeah, we're all having like 836 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: a really crap day, and Laura Belts had just gotten 837 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: a ticket Jimmy Robbins something had happened, and then I 838 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: had had a weird start to the morning. And we 839 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: get there and we're all just like really dejected, and 840 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: we're like, how how are we going to write a song? 841 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: And Laura's like, do you want to walk to Losers? 842 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: And so I was. It was eleven o'clock and I 843 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: was like maybe, and we all were on board, and 844 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: we went over and we had like one drink and 845 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: walked back and I had most of Hero already done, 846 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: and then Jimmy was like, do you have any like 847 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: what are you missing off the album, which is like 848 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: the weirdest question to get from people. It's like, I 849 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: don't know, Um, I'll know it when I hear it, 850 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: I guess. And I was like, it's weird. This whole 851 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: song like doesn't have any love songs on it. It's 852 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: like the first record I've heard in a while it doesn't. 853 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: And Jimmy's like, oh, but you could you could use 854 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: a love song though, right, and uh, Laura like jotted 855 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: down that as a title, but it was just in conversation, like, 856 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: oh but you could use a song on the on 857 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: the album, and uh so yeah. We went back and 858 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: she was like, I think we should just write a 859 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: song called I could use a love song. And we 860 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, like the sky opened up that day 861 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: and maybe it was because our filters had been drunk away, 862 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: but we just like poured through that song and had 863 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: the demo done within like an hour and a half. 864 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: Played this for you tell me talking about this song 865 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: right here? Better day man, it's hunched over in her 866 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: chair right now. Okay, this is a silver bullet for 867 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: the interview. I don't have bullets. Oh my good run 868 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: its days? Where did you find that? What about what 869 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: I had? I was, Oh my god, it's this Yeah, 870 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: no play it. I can hear that thirteen year old 871 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: pain kid? Did you write Better Days? I wrote it 872 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: with my mom? Actually really yeah, I used to right 873 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: back then. Uh oh my god, I feel like my 874 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: face so hot right now. Um, I'm trying to remember 875 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: back that far. I mean, that was like so long ago. 876 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying. Where were you playing that at bars? Yeah? 877 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: And how are you getting into bar? Because your mom 878 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: was like, hey, she's cool, she's with me, She's cool. 879 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm the karaoke champions. Um no, I mean in Texas 880 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: it's weird. I mean you might know this. Like if 881 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: you are a kid and you have your parents with you, Yeah, 882 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: you can drink and you can be in the bar. 883 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't drink, but I would definitely. I 884 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: was able to play these shows in these you know, 885 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: pretty honky tonks because my parents were there, um, and 886 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: they were my managers, so they were, um driving me 887 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: to and fro from all these gigs. But yeah, thirteen, 888 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: when that gem of a song was written I was 889 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: playing in like the White Elephant Saloon and like the 890 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: crap stage outside of Billy Bob's. I don't know, I've 891 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: I've been doing this so long. I make my sound 892 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: myself sounds so old, but I really have been hustling 893 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: in bars and honky tonks since I was twelve. Here's 894 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: a song called walk on. Okay, can we just play 895 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: all my demos instead? How old are you with this one? 896 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: To go back? But there's something there, like you know 897 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: it always I'm always like, oh, I'd like to hear 898 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 1: stuff either from when I was seventeen on the radio. Yeah, 899 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 1: but do you hear it? Like, do you hear something 900 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: there in that thirteen year old voice? At think I 901 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 1: was a little more nasally with let's just like talent wise, 902 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: like something there, something there that's inherent. Do you hear 903 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: something inherently in that? Yeah? I mean I've always I've 904 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: always loved music, and I've loved performing and writing songs. 905 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, I try to think back 906 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: to what my parents were thinking at the time, because 907 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: they're obviously biased. It's like those parents that have talented 908 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: kids quote unquote, it's like, well, you are their parents? 909 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: So how do you really know? But then I'm trying 910 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: to like look back at my parents and for them 911 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: to put aside that parental love and be like, Okay, 912 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: can she actually do this? Is she even like emotionally 913 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: emotionally capable to play these bars and ship like I 914 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: I think they do, Like Okay, you're gonna play these 915 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,720 Speaker 1: bars and they're gonna be a lot of rowdy drunk 916 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: people or is it's like man, just go and we'll watch. Yeah, 917 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean they they I never played anywhere to c 918 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,439 Speaker 1: D where it was like dangerous to be in there. 919 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: They certainly would not have um taken me to a 920 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: bar like that. But I grew up around adults and 921 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 1: like people drinking and smoking inside and you can still 922 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: do that in Texas, and like, I grew up in 923 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: that environment. So by the time I turned twenty one, 924 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: it was like not cool that you could drink um. Yeah, 925 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, they definitely the whole time saw something in me. 926 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean, you're you're talking about 927 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: like the thirteen year old self like to your friends, 928 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: because you could you were singing and playing and regardless 929 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: of where you were singing, and you were still singing 930 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: and playing. Yeah. Yeah, they were all so excited they 931 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: come to my shows, which the ones they could get into. Um, 932 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was weird. I went to like a 933 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 1: public high school and on the weekends I would go 934 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: do these shows around xas to talent shows and stuff. 935 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: At school, I never did a talent show. I was 936 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: in musical theater, so I did all the musicals and like, 937 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: which one because I'm a little theater you are, Yeah, 938 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: I degree so Danny Zooko in Greece. Wow, that's a 939 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: big one. It was awesome. I like to dance, so 940 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: we need to find that footage and it exists. I 941 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: would like that. Ny. It all back from your key 942 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: screen is your silver bullet? So what did you do 943 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: so theater wise? What was your favorite? I did? Um, 944 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: My first one was when I was a freshman, and 945 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: it was It's Susical the musical Okay, Dr Stuce, Yes, 946 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: and I played a little boy. So that was my 947 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: first one. And then um, I did Little Shop of Horror. 948 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: I did Little Shop of Horse. Who are you in it? 949 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 1: I was Seymour, I was Audrey. That's so funny, Wed 950 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: Mercy More that's so funny. Oh my god, that's I 951 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: did agree. I did a Little Shop Was Love and 952 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: my junior year and Greece my senior year. I did 953 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: Little Shot my junior year, and that was like like that. 954 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: It was so dark for high school. I'm actually really 955 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: surprised my high school allowed they got it, though I don't. 956 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: I think the movie was out and we were The 957 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: movie was before me too, like Rick Maranis and stuff. 958 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: But I think it made it so safe because he 959 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: was so safe that everyone kind of lost it. I 960 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,959 Speaker 1: look back on it now, I'm like, oh my god, 961 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: Like in the movie and the play, like I have 962 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: to be hit, not like for real, but like she's 963 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: in an abusive relationship, and there's like all these like 964 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: dark sex jokes, and I was like, if I was 965 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: a parent in the crowd, I'd be like, who okay, 966 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: this this is like way too advanced for high school kids. 967 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 1: But we didn't. You're right, we didn't get it. We 968 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: didn't get it at all. It was almost it was 969 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: the SpongeBob effective plays, like the kids don't get the 970 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: adult jokes and SpongeBob. I just thought I was freaking 971 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: talking to a plant and you know, but that that's so. 972 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 1: It was just I was magic. That's funny. Tell me 973 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: about this all that it takes at here. Yeah. No, 974 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: I was actually oh yeah, I was seventeen. This was 975 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: my UM number one in Texas. When you get a 976 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: number one in Texas, do you think, okay, well, all right, Texas, 977 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: thank you. Now it's time to go and bust out nationally, 978 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: Like do you think it was just gonna be like 979 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: pop up up um? I think okay. So I was seventeen, 980 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: and I I think at the time, I was like, no, 981 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: now I'm going to be in the big leagues of Texas. 982 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: And I didn't have any sights to go to Nashville 983 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: until I was, like, you know, in my early twenties, 984 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: but I yeah, I wanted to like tour around Texas 985 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 1: and basically head line and you know, like all the 986 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: greats down there to me, like you know, I loved 987 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: Wade Bowen and Stoney LaRue and Randy Rogers and uh 988 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: Rodney Foster and all those guys. It was like green 989 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 1: Hall of cool place for you to play. Yeah, I've 990 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: played there once and I actually requested on my headline 991 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: tour that we hit Green Hall. So I'm going to 992 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: do a Green Hall show, which I'm so excited about. 993 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the coolest venue. I feel like in Texas. 994 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: It's the oldest dance hall and it's like George Straits. 995 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the George Straight I'm here. So 996 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: you were in Austin, So do you remember? Um, he's 997 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: still around and I love him. But Bob Schneider, Oh yeah, 998 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: Bob played my show many times. Yeah, so I Um, 999 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: I saw him at Green that was like the last 1000 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: show I saw there. But I love him. Um, but 1001 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's sort of full circle to get to 1002 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: play there on my own tour. I mean, I don't 1003 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: run Bob when I was in Austin was dating Sandra Bullock. Yeah, 1004 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: because she lived in Austin too. Yeah, Boba came bind 1005 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: Players show all the time. That's crazy, but it's not 1006 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 1: crazy because we're, you know, from basically the same place. Yeah. 1007 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: I've been a fan of his for over a decade now, 1008 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: so I think he was a little before his time frankly. Yeah, 1009 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: and he's one of those where it's like he can 1010 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: do anything. He can do any genre. So I think 1011 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: it's sort of hard to to find a spot because 1012 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: he is so good at so many third album, Born 1013 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: Again somewhere. What was the goal with this record? It's funny, 1014 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: it's like born again and now there's my church. Um 1015 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: I was nineteen. I think I sound a little more 1016 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: like myself. I feel like definitely more country, weirdly like 1017 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: that Texas country too. I think there's some Texas country 1018 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: and Hero though, like I hear it, I still hear 1019 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 1: all you do, I do? I do? What's ever said 1020 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 1: that to me? I I, you know, lived in Texas 1021 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: for a long time, you know, and I do so. 1022 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: I do hear a little bit of Texas country and Hero, 1023 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: but I hear a lot of things in Hero, which 1024 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: is what's cool about the record because every song there's 1025 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of similarity, but there's a lot that's 1026 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: not as you go from track to track, if that 1027 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 1: makes sense at all. Yeah. I have some other audio 1028 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: clips here and like talking about um no more like that, 1029 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: don't worry. Speaking of Lucy Silva's villain, Yes, familiar with 1030 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: the song, how so I wrote it because we've had 1031 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: you we the Crombi down and I'll take the phone 1032 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: if you're if you if you're looking for She's so good? Yeah, 1033 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: how she told me the story aboud this music video. 1034 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: I've seen the video and the parts about what tell me, Well, 1035 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: we shot it at an actual prison, um near Huntsville. 1036 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: Are you gonna call her? I I just came to 1037 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: do like makeup touch ups. This is like a year 1038 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: and a half ago. But we shot it at a 1039 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: working prison, and yeah, it was pretty crazy too, to 1040 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: be in a prison with real into Yeah, and like 1041 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: Lucy is so beautiful and like her walking past, and 1042 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: then I idiotically wore shorts that day and all the 1043 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: guys are like, whoa, oh god, this is so so crazy. 1044 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 1: Let's see if Lucy answers. I think she's in town. 1045 00:57:54,240 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't quick gonna hit it with her. 1046 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: Let's leave a message how back to you? Oh no, 1047 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: the mailbox is full. Okay, she may call back. How 1048 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,479 Speaker 1: about the song here Greener Pastures? Yes, we know about 1049 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: this one. Ryan and I wrote this with John and 1050 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: t J D. Try and drink into the pure. Man 1051 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: had to go to that. You all four you guys 1052 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: right there, June Yan righte. That for those two, the 1053 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: four of us that just sitting around, you guys are 1054 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: just like, let's just rock something out. It was weird 1055 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: because like we've been friends with John and t J 1056 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: for years, we've never written together and they've never been 1057 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,439 Speaker 1: homes honestly, so we had it on the books to write. 1058 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: It was like a for real co write, and um, 1059 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: I was nervous because like to write with friends is 1060 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: it can go either way. It can either be amazing, 1061 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: which luckily this one turned out to be, or it 1062 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: can be like kind of a downer and it's like 1063 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: everything's cool, but yeah, let's not do this again. But 1064 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: you know we I had that title for years in 1065 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: my phone and no one would write it with me. 1066 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: And Ryan will attest to this like I I threw 1067 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: that title at him and writes for like two years 1068 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: straight and no one ever bit at it. And then 1069 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: finally I threw it out the final time at this 1070 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: brother's Osborne co write, and yeah, I was like, I've 1071 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: had this title Greener Pastors in my phone forever, and 1072 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: I like looked at Ryan and I was like, I 1073 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: feel like it could be a cool play on words 1074 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 1: about like breaking up with someone or them leaving you 1075 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: and then you just go smoke a joint or something 1076 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: like moving on to Greener Pastors and John and t 1077 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: J laughed and like loved it, and then John started 1078 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: playing that like riff and m Yeah, it was like 1079 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: a pretty easy co write, which I'm astounded at because, um, 1080 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: with friends it can be weird. But we Yeah, we 1081 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: had the best time. And then when they played us 1082 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: the recording of it and J Joyce produced it, which 1083 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: I I love. I loved J Joyce. Um, I'm a 1084 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: huge Patty Griffin fan, and he did her Flaming Red 1085 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: album which I loved. But he produced that song for 1086 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: John and t J and I just like died listening 1087 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: to it, And it was cool to hear them do 1088 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: it at the rheman at their show. It was really cool, man, 1089 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: so much so I'll ask you this. And when Ryan, 1090 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: by the way Ryan heard was then you've mentioned him 1091 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: a few times, and I'll do the same thing with 1092 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you that with Ryan, I didn't bring you up until later, 1093 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: but he just kept referencing unfl Well, if I don't 1094 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: address what you're referencing, people aren't even going to know. 1095 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 1: So Ryan heard your boyfriend right now? Yeah, And so 1096 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Ryan fan. Yeah, minus Marin, I'm a 1097 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: huge Ryan fan. Like I, I just I enjoy him. 1098 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I enjoy his music. I love where he comes from. 1099 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: He just seems like a guy that is like it 1100 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: into a happy universe, if that makes sense. Like he 1101 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: just seems like a guy that wants peace in the universe, 1102 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: and he makes me want to have peace in the 1103 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,479 Speaker 1: universe when like I'm around him. And so you guys 1104 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: write a lot together, do you guys talk about music 1105 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: a lot? I mean, is that really what the bond? Yeah, 1106 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's how we met each other was in 1107 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: a co write and um, it was like three and 1108 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 1: a half almost four years ago, and we've just been 1109 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: friends for years and we were both in other relationships 1110 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: and um, but yeah, I think that was the first. 1111 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 1: Um bond was just hey, I love writing songs with you. 1112 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: And we got our first cut together with Tim McGraw 1113 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: and then yeah, we just asked our publishers to keep 1114 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: putting us on our books and yeah, I think, well 1115 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: it was Funny Brothers Osborne. That was our second like 1116 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: actual cut together. But we've had a few placements and 1117 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: stuff on Nashville and whatnot. But at the crux of it, 1118 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, yes, I love writing songs with you. 1119 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: But after you know, we sort of started like falling 1120 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: for each other and not just like in a friendly way. 1121 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: It was like, I don't know. I used to to 1122 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: worry about oh, like I always want to be able 1123 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 1: to write songs with him, that's this relationship. But now 1124 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: it's like I don't really care. I mean, it's cool 1125 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: if we get a cool song, but it's cool to 1126 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: be in a relationship where that's not contingent on it anymore. 1127 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 1: It's like we've written plenty of great songs together and 1128 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: now it's just about our relationship and leaning on each 1129 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: other during the craziest time of our lives, like kick 1130 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: starting our artist careers. And yeah, um, he's he's just 1131 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: an incredi double person. Like I could probably talk about 1132 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,479 Speaker 1: him for the rest of this podcast, but I won't. 1133 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I'll um save you from that. Um. But yeah, he 1134 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: just he really does have a heart of gold. And 1135 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: you're right where he lives in this world where um, 1136 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: he's so thoughtful and he really he cares about the 1137 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: energy around him, and he cares about like if you're okay, 1138 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: and not like in a pressing way. He's just he's 1139 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: always aware of if people are feeling taking care of 1140 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: or not, and um, He's like that with really every 1141 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: facet of his career would sponsor Mike, We're good, alright, cool, 1142 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Uh so let's talk. Let's go to now. Um, we're 1143 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: just now. It's weird and in a great way. So 1144 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: I thought, what you said at the c M is 1145 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable and poignant and such a big stage and 1146 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: such small awesome words where you were like a year ago, 1147 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: I watched this from across the street, Mat I thought 1148 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: it was just like, I mean that the neated with me. 1149 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to be you, and that resonated 1150 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: with me. I wonder like, did you have that ready? 1151 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: Was that? Because I still remember you getting up and 1152 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: saying that and going, I mean that, that's the perfect 1153 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: thing to say right there, like everybody's inspired. I don't 1154 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: care what you're doing, music, live, digging ditches, driving truck 1155 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: like you should. That's inspiring right there. So talk about 1156 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: that moment for a second. Well, when I got up there, 1157 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: and I've been thinking about that all night, Like I 1158 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: didn't think I was going to be able to accept 1159 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: an award that night, but I was thinking just to myself, 1160 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: like in a personal way, I was like, oh my God, 1161 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even think I was going to get 1162 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: an invitation to the c m AS this year, let 1163 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: alone be nominated. And yeah, I was just thinking, like Wow. 1164 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: I sat across the street from Bridgetone a year ago 1165 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: um with friends and we got dressed up and went 1166 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: to the Palm Bar and just watched on TV and 1167 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: watched people like Chris Stapleton's life change with one performance. 1168 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, that had been kind of rattling around my 1169 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: mind all day really, but when I got up there, 1170 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I was so overcome with emotion and I like laugh 1171 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: and cry watching the footage back because I brought my 1172 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 1: purse up on stage with me, like my clutch. I 1173 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: should have just like left it, and I'm trying to 1174 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: open it because I had a note card inside with people. 1175 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Lucy's calling Hello, Lucy. Hey, I'm with Marin right now, 1176 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: and so you're you're on record, So don't say anything 1177 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: that you wouldn't want out there. Don't talk about me. 1178 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Oh you're you're in a bad place. Listen, you're cutting out? 1179 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Where are you? Okay? Okay, Okay, I'm going I don't 1180 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 1: even know she can hear me, now I can, Yeah, 1181 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: I can hear. That doesn't mean I know what you're saying, 1182 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: but I can hear you now perfectly. You don't. Yeah, 1183 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: we got you. We're talking about you, and so you 1184 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about. So it's good that 1185 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: you're kind of hopping in. Oh. How would you describe 1186 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Marin as a friend. We have so much history and 1187 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: so many stories that I have many ways, But the 1188 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to my mind is that I 1189 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: don't know. She's so she's so sweet. She has like 1190 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: a little giggle that she giggles at things and it 1191 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: just makes her horrible. Um. But I don't know as 1192 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 1: a friend, supposed to just a person in general, I'd say, um, 1193 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: she's got a lot of empathy for the people around her. Um. 1194 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I've always thought she's been there for some of the 1195 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: most important, probably the most important time in my life, 1196 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 1: which is that they got married as John's best man. Oh, 1197 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,439 Speaker 1: she said she was John's best man. That I didn't 1198 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 1: know that, and she you know, I think she's just 1199 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 1: one of these people that um. Um. I just she's 1200 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: got a mystery around her. But as a friend, she's 1201 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: never she's she always feel like she's there for me. 1202 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: I can tell her things I don't and that's you 1203 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: don't have that with everybody with friends, you're always some 1204 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: friends you have to think. I'm going to filter that 1205 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: out because I don't want to tell them that. But 1206 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel like that was Marion. So it was 1207 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: my deepest talker secrets. And now, Lucy, how am I 1208 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: is a friend? You're awful? Know you? Well, it's so 1209 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,439 Speaker 1: far You've been great. You tell the truth, which I like, well, 1210 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: thank you. Hey, Well we I feel like, Lucy, we 1211 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: do these shows and you come up with every one 1212 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: of them one because I'm just yes, it's like the 1213 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 1: fourth one that you've come up, so now we've got 1214 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: to make a point to get you, to get you 1215 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: up here. But yeah, I want to hear that. Yeah, 1216 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: were you? Were you? According? Right now, I'm actually just 1217 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: doing vocals on a song that I wrote with Ryan Beaver, 1218 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I love Ryan the best day 1219 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: listening to his voice, and I'm very excited to just 1220 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: go home and sit on my porch for the rest 1221 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 1: of the night and do nothing. I'm about to do 1222 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: that too. Well, thank you for calling me back. Lucy, 1223 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: talked to you soon. Bye. Lucy showed up at um 1224 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,799 Speaker 1: Our show a couple of nights ago with Ted dancing, 1225 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, because she writes with Ted's 1226 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: wife Mary, And so Ted Dancing shows up, and you know, 1227 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: when you get to see cool people, most of the time, 1228 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's cool. But it was Ted dancing. I 1229 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: was like, that's freaking Ted dancing. It's like Cheers, It's 1230 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 1: like Becker, and so I was like, dude, I get 1231 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: a picture. It was like sure, And then I got 1232 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 1: out on stage and everybody look his dead dancing. He 1233 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 1: was nice, oh, super nice and really good looking. Yeah 1234 01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: it is Mary. He's one of them. Really mind And 1235 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I hated to cut you off there. I don't want 1236 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 1: to put Lucy let keep ringing. Oh yeah, you have 1237 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: your you have your your clutch with you. Oh yeah. 1238 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: I just you know, you don't really have time to 1239 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: think or do much except walk forward. And so I 1240 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: brought my clutch and Jennifer Garner's trying to help me 1241 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: open it for like what seemed like an eternity, and um, 1242 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 1: I just had a note card inside and all it 1243 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,759 Speaker 1: said was like the names of people like my manager 1244 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 1: and obviously like my mom and dad, and these are 1245 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: the only people I got to Um, but I was 1246 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 1: just yeah, I had just come off this like high 1247 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 1: from performing, and that was such a gigantic performance, just 1248 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 1: so much energy on stage and so much music, and 1249 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: I was just firing on all cylinders. And then I 1250 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: got off stage with all this adrenaline and they were like, Okay, 1251 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: we need to see you really quick because they're about 1252 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: to do best New Artists. And I was like, I'm 1253 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 1: just catching my breath and then they called my name 1254 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: and was it weird to hear your name? Yeah? It was. 1255 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I felt like I was in the twilight zone for 1256 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: a second, because you have those dreams kind of since 1257 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: you were a kid. And then I heard her say 1258 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: it and yeah, I mean you see it in my face, 1259 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: just the utter shock and um I I got my 1260 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: clutch and hugged Ryan, hugged Stapleton, and walked up there, 1261 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: luckily without tripping, and I just couldn't. I mean, it 1262 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: was almost going to be one of those cries that 1263 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: you can't get words out, and I was dancing on 1264 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: that line, but I was just overcome with emotion and 1265 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,679 Speaker 1: my parents being in the audience too, and I bought 1266 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: them seats, but they were like further back, and I 1267 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 1: just I knew. I was like trying to find them 1268 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: in the crowd. I couldn't but um, and then you 1269 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: see the the time thing ticking down. It's like, okay, 1270 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 1: you have four seconds left to say thank you to 1271 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: all these people that got you there, And UM, yeah, 1272 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't fit everyone in, but I feel like I 1273 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,639 Speaker 1: got the really important people. And um, that was Ryan's 1274 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,600 Speaker 1: birthday that night, so it was just like a double celebration. 1275 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't have prepared that I was in 1276 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 1: a bar a year prior. But I was thinking about 1277 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: that all night that I was sitting in. Now that 1278 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 1: gave me chills because it wasn't just about you or 1279 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,759 Speaker 1: the industry or that moment. It was about what everyone watching. 1280 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: I could look at and go, you know, every long 1281 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 1: journey does start with a step, and here's that journey, 1282 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and here's a step, and now are you freaking are? 1283 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: And what can happen in a year? I wonder as 1284 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,919 Speaker 1: your parents are sitting in the crowd, and they've allowed 1285 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 1: and encouraged you, like and it's hard when you love 1286 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: someone a lot for that love to grow, But has 1287 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 1: the love grown as you've areciated more what they did 1288 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 1: for you? When you were younger. Oh yeah, absolutely. It's 1289 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 1: sort of that mentality when you, uh, you live with 1290 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: your parents and you're so ready to move out and 1291 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 1: like go be an adult, and then you're like a 1292 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: few years into paying all your own bills and you're like, wow, 1293 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 1: they really took care of me. And then I'm sure 1294 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,720 Speaker 1: it changes even more when you get married and have 1295 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: kids and you're like, oh my god, my parents were 1296 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: right and the same thing happened, you know, because I 1297 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: was sort of a child performer. And now I'm you know, 1298 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 1: going on twenty seven soon, and I think about my 1299 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 1: parents and the sacrifices they've made because we didn't come 1300 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: from money by any means, Like my mom grew up poor. Um, 1301 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: just like very humble beginnings. I never had any sort 1302 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: of hand out and neither did they. And they would still, 1303 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: you know, pay the band when the owner of the 1304 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: crappy club would stuff us our money, they would pay 1305 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 1: out of their own pocket. That was not deep And um, 1306 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: I I think about everything that they sacrificed their time, 1307 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and yes they had fun doing it too, but at 1308 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's like they they really 1309 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 1: did give up everything. So on a whim just a girl, 1310 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 1: an eleven year old, twelve year old that like to sing, 1311 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 1: could do it in front of a few people, and 1312 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: it's just snowballed. So yeah, I definitely think about that 1313 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: now and have so much better appreciation for all my 1314 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: parents did for me and UM. And it's not even 1315 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 1: about money, it's not about anything. It's just about giving 1316 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: your kid the tools to think something of themselves. And 1317 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm very passionate about like fine artis education because I 1318 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: didn't go to like a cool or like nice school. 1319 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: I went to public school was kind of ghetto, and 1320 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: you know, it just it didn't have a fine arts 1321 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 1: program that was anything really Like I did theater and 1322 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 1: choir and stuff, but there was just no funding to 1323 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,560 Speaker 1: do anything. But I was so lucky at home to 1324 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 1: have parents that believed in my love for music and 1325 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: UM gave me that platform to be able to do it. 1326 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of kids like they want 1327 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 1: to go to school to escape home because maybe at 1328 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: home no one does believe in them, or it's put 1329 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 1: on the other kid, or there's just no one home. 1330 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 1: And I think about, you know, when you go to school, 1331 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 1: like the people there that are supposed to be like 1332 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: enriching you creatively. Uh it just gets less and less, 1333 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel every year. So I was really lucky in 1334 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: those formidable ages to have parents that really gave a 1335 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 1: ship about me. Um. So yeah, I'm I'm excited. My 1336 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,879 Speaker 1: mom is going to be my date to the Grammys, 1337 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 1: and uh, we've been going back and forth about what 1338 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 1: we're wearing and um yeah, I mean she's earned that 1339 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: spot just as much as I. The emotion coming from 1340 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: her voice when you talk about them really, Yeah, I'm 1341 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to stay cool. I've cried enough at the c 1342 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 1: m As, so you're trying to keep it together now. 1343 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm excited for them to come out to that, 1344 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 1: because they came out to the c m As, but 1345 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,799 Speaker 1: this time it's like my mom and dad and sister Carson, 1346 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: my younger sister. She's never gotten to come to an 1347 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,560 Speaker 1: award show, so it's like their first time at that 1348 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 1: and it's freaking Grammys. So and yet for four Yeah, 1349 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I texted Kelsey Um the morning the 1350 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,719 Speaker 1: announcement came out about the nominations, and it was so early, 1351 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: and I think I may have been like the first 1352 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 1: person to tell her. I don't know. I might be 1353 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 1: taking that credit, but I texted her the second I 1354 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,719 Speaker 1: found out that we were both up for Best New Artists, 1355 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, we're going to Hollywood and yeah, 1356 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean I was just like astounded that I got 1357 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: nominated in that category. But also it's so cool to 1358 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 1: like have this full circle moment with artists like Keith 1359 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: where you took me out on tour and now we're 1360 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 1: both up for Best Album and to be in these 1361 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 1: categories with like Thomas Rhett and I don't know, it's 1362 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 1: like it's so cool to see these like buddies of mine. Um, 1363 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: like we all are coming up together, and especially artists 1364 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: like Kelsey. It's like we are in this class of 1365 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 1: new artists and it's cool to have these wins and 1366 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 1: whoever wins that night, um honestly, like it sounds cliche, 1367 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: but I do think just being nominated, I mean, think 1368 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 1: about the thousands of write in forms um entries that 1369 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: were given to these awards shows and the Grammys, and 1370 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 1: you think about they narrowed it down to five and 1371 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: that's like a huge win in itself. Vote I voted 1372 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 1: last night. I had a mail bag. Yeah, did you 1373 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,640 Speaker 1: have to overnight it. Yeah. Yeah, it was like I 1374 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 1: cut it really close, um, because I've I've been gone 1375 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: like for the last few weeks. Um. So yeah, I 1376 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: voted the day before yesterday. I'll keep all the country 1377 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 1: stuff out of it, but I voted for Adele on 1378 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 1: about every single pop he did. Yeah. I think Hello 1379 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: should have won just about every yeah, major song or 1380 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 1: pop category. Yeah. I mean that was like the biggest 1381 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 1: song of last year for sure. I mean they just 1382 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 1: engulfed all of all time and space, Yeah, YouTube, radio, everything. 1383 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:51,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a showdown, I think. I think it's 1384 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 1: going to be. I mean the thing about Beyonce's though 1385 01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 1: hers didn't crossover as much into just the regular mainstream well, 1386 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: people walking down the street, every dude who is forty 1387 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,560 Speaker 1: eight years old new Hello. Oh yeah. Yeah. In just 1388 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 1: terms of like knowing music and it being commercial, yeah 1389 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean Adele sold eight million copies. I 1390 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 1: think of school, yeah too. I mean she's doing it 1391 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 1: from a place of and she reaches I think a 1392 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,439 Speaker 1: wider age spectrum to like you go to her show 1393 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 1: and you see people like our age and then you 1394 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,679 Speaker 1: see nine year olds. They're both winners. Let's not Liveners. 1395 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 1: They're they're doing all right, Mike and the un asked 1396 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 1: and before we wrap her up, how do you get 1397 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,680 Speaker 1: the call to do SNL? What happens? Um? So the 1398 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,640 Speaker 1: way that happened was after the c M A S. 1399 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I think the talent booker for SNL he saw my 1400 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 1: performance and it was so last minute because they were 1401 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 1: trying to find the last two or three artists for 1402 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 1: their last few shows of the season, and they reached 1403 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: out to me because they had they had heard about 1404 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: me for you know, the whole year. It's like Helton 1405 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: finally he put the word in. Um. Yeah, all those 1406 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: like TV talent bookers know each other and they're all 1407 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,560 Speaker 1: like vying for the new artists or whoever. It's like 1408 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: very competitive and like crazy. But SNL is such um 1409 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:29,800 Speaker 1: an esteemed music breaking show, and they have fewer episodes 1410 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 1: than like obviously Good Morning America blah blah blah, Jimmy 1411 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Fallon um that they they're just so picky and they 1412 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: don't really have country artists on their all that often. 1413 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: I think the last country artist they had Margot Price 1414 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:48,519 Speaker 1: this year and then Stapleton and yeah, yeah, I always 1415 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,560 Speaker 1: get nervous for live stuff just because it's live and 1416 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, with SNL, it's just so legendary. Did 1417 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: it in Like I'm a huge comedy guy, so for me, 1418 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 1: but even I used of the music that's been broken 1419 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: there that you walk around looking the pictures in the 1420 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 1: walls and take it in. Yeah, I looked at the pictures, 1421 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 1: Like in my dressing room was all the musical guests 1422 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 1: that had been there, and um yeah, just walking down 1423 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: the hallway and seeing these cast pictures from every season 1424 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 1: and seeing like you know, the Will Ferrell's and then 1425 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: um seeing like I don't know, there's so many um 1426 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: down the hallway and like the first cast and like 1427 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 1: seventy five having like Dan Ackroyd and Chevy Chase. It 1428 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 1: was so cool to see the history. And then you know, 1429 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm I've just started like getting into Dirty Rock and 1430 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,440 Speaker 1: it walking the hallways of SNL and like NBC Rockefeller, 1431 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: like it's just crazy to feel like you're in that 1432 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 1: show and it's just yeah, like seeing Keenan walk by, 1433 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, Like Bobby moynahan like doing 1434 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,439 Speaker 1: the thank you at the end and like turning around 1435 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: and talking to the cast and you're like you're Bobby moynahan. 1436 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,560 Speaker 1: And then we went to the after party and it 1437 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: was already so late, like way past my bedtime, and 1438 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 1: um we went to the restaurant where it was at 1439 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: and we just like sort of formed our own party 1440 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: at the after party, like my friends and the band 1441 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 1: and stuff. And then we, uh, We're like, oh crap, 1442 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 1: it's like four in the morning. We're like we need 1443 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 1: to go, and UM, I was like, I'm gonna just 1444 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,760 Speaker 1: check to see who's left in here, and it was 1445 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Vanessa Bear, who was so cool, and then Lauren Michaels 1446 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 1: out at four and I We've been running around the 1447 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,200 Speaker 1: past two days like at s NL that and the 1448 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 1: cast is everywhere, but I never saw Lauren, but everyone 1449 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 1: else in my camp did, like they were like, oh yeah, 1450 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 1: he's just always hanging know, he's watching every skit, and um, 1451 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I haven't. I haven't gotten to meet 1452 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,560 Speaker 1: him yet. And I'm just a huge fan. He's just 1453 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 1: a legend. And so I I was like, do I 1454 01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 1: need to walk over? Like I'm gonna walk over. I'm 1455 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: just gonna do it. He's with his family, I think, 1456 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 1: and it's four am and he's still rocking at this 1457 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,800 Speaker 1: after party and it's winding down, obviously, but I go 1458 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,600 Speaker 1: over and he sees me walking towards him and he's like, 1459 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: oh hey, he's like a great job tonight, that was awesome, 1460 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. And I said, well, thank 1461 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: you for having us. I mean, this is truly like 1462 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,560 Speaker 1: we'll never forget this. This has been a dream on 1463 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 1: all of our bucket lists. And he was like, you 1464 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 1: live in Nashville, right, My daughter goes to school there. 1465 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,640 Speaker 1: And we just chatted for like a minute, and then 1466 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll leave you back to your your dinner, 1467 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,439 Speaker 1: but um, thank you for having us. And I walked 1468 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: out and I was like, I cannot believe the last 1469 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: person I saw in this place was Lorne Michaels. And 1470 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: but he's been doing the show for so long. That's 1471 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,680 Speaker 1: their schedule except for a brief period of time, the 1472 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,600 Speaker 1: whole time, like he started it and came back, then 1473 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,439 Speaker 1: when it went down, he came back, and so he's 1474 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,760 Speaker 1: used to just staying up that mare and it's good 1475 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 1: to have you. This has been fun for it's been 1476 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,560 Speaker 1: fun for me. I have a wall of people that 1477 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I really root for it, and I don't keep them 1478 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,560 Speaker 1: all up there, but I have I just noticed this 1479 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Jansen and the little big town guys and Passway and 1480 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Keith and Kelsey and on the bottom. The latest one 1481 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 1: is a hero a vinyl from you, so so cool 1482 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 1: you always got a friend. Well, I'm glad that we 1483 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 1: got to do this. I've been wanting to for a while. 1484 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 1: You get too big. I couldn't get it, couldn't get 1485 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 1: you in glow trotting all over the world. I congratulations 1486 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 1: on this so fun. Thank you Marion Morris, and buy 1487 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,680 Speaker 1: the record and if you hear this one, the next 1488 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 1: record is out. It's fantastic, because second record is amazing. 1489 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're hearing this then it trust me, 1490 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 1: it's just as good a European dance rock. She finally 1491 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: did it, fantastic redid the Dinosaurs song So episode thirty one. 1492 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: Gonna go Marion Morris and we'll see you got next time. 1493 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:00,839 Speaker 1: Thanksas