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Speaker 2: Hey, Hurdler's Emily Abadi here bringing you episode one thirty

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Speaker 2: one of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I sit

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Speaker 2: down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from their

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Speaker 3: My mission is simple to.

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Speaker 2: Inspire you to be your best self, move with intention,

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Speaker 2: and have some fun along the way. For today's episode

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Speaker 2: one thirty one, I am chatting with Emily Enfeld. She

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Speaker 3: Such a good human.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of housekeeping before we get into the

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Speaker 3: This is the last week of season three.

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Speaker 2: Next week the show will be off for a little

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Speaker 2: bit of regrouping before coming in hot with season four.

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Speaker 2: When I reflect on the past few months to twelve

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Speaker 2: Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Now, let me

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Speaker 2: tell you a little bit about Emily. She's a professional

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Speaker 2: em is it time for us to hurdle?

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Speaker 3: And well, here we are. And if there's one thing.

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, Okay, they're real people, like they're they're

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00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: not robots, They're like really funny, and I just automatically

443
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: was like, they're awesome. I want to be part of

444
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: this team, want to be running with them, and want

445
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: to learn from the best, because that's what I'm like,

446
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: if I want to be my best, I should surround

447
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: myself with.

448
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: People who are way way, way, way way better than me.

449
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: That'll help push me to kind of get get the

450
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Speaker 4: most out of myself.

451
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you hear that often as well when

452
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: it comes to just like normal everyday jobs and hiring

453
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: like good individuals, good managers hire people that are better

454
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: than them, or hire people that they can learn from,

455
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: not just that can be like submissive below them.

456
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh totally, But I think it's smart. I think

457
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 4: that makes sense.

458
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: It's like you want to, yeah, surround yourself with people

459
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: who will challenge you and get you to push yourself

460
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: to get the most out of yourself.

461
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: Where are we in time right now?

462
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: When I join the team. Yes, yes, so that way

463
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: is the fall of twenty twelve. So yeah, eight years ago. Yeah,

464
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: so that's so. I moved out here eight years ago

465
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: in October and was at that time it was just

466
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: Selene and Kira, and Kara was there for a year

467
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: and then left, and then it was just Selene and

468
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: I were the only two females with like a group

469
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: of like fifteen men I think.

470
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Speaker 4: So it was like us with all these guys for

471
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: three years.

472
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: And then we added three more women in like one

473
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Speaker 1: fell swoop, which was really nice. But before we added

474
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Speaker 1: those women, it was just Selene and I, who were

475
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: different events. She was definitely more marathon focused. I was

476
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: coming from a fifteen background, like trying to move to

477
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: the five k, but very very different. And she, I mean,

478
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: she's nine years older than me, so at that time

479
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: she was just so much more developed. So it was

480
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of sinker swim for me. I was

481
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: getting just kind of thrown in to her training and

482
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: doing what I could, and I ended up having two

483
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: years in a row getting two huge injuries, getting a

484
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: sacral stress fracture on my left side, and then exactly

485
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: a year later getting a sacral stress fracture on my

486
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: right side. So from someone who never had any injuries,

487
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: getting those two ones.

488
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: Are pretty bad.

489
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: It's i mean, back fractures are never good, and you're

490
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: kind of stuck without being able to do much just

491
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: because any kind of movement or turning up your hips

492
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: or anything can aggravate it and irritate it. So that

493
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: was from coming from like great college experience, no injuries,

494
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: feeling super super thrilled to join this group, to be

495
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: pushing myself to then kind of sinking or swimming and

496
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: practice having some really really good workouts and some good

497
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: road races and that kind of stuff, kind of showing

498
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: me I could be a really good distance runner and

499
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: that I probably would be longer than I would have

500
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: thought previously. I still thought I was more of a

501
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred runner, but then getting those two injuries was

502
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of a rude awakening and had two years of

503
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: i mean kind of half running and really just taking

504
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: time off and recovering from those injuries.

505
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the pressure that came hand in

506
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: hand with trying to keep up at that time before

507
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: even the injuries set in.

508
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So for me, I felt like I wanted

509
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: to prove myself, like to prove that I deserve to

510
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: be on this team, that I deserve to be training

511
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: with these two incredible women and to be training with Shalaine,

512
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: And I felt like I had a lot of potential,

513
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: but I think I still I probably still didn't fully

514
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: believe it, and I felt almost like how did I

515
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: get thrown into this group? Like I'm just so far behind?

516
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: And I think the pressure that of trying to prove that,

517
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: like I deserve to be there, that I deserve to be.

518
00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: In this group.

519
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: And at that time, there weren't I feel like people

520
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: weren't being signed for like huge contracts or that sort

521
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: of thing.

522
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: So I still feel like it wasn't a given that

523
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: if you.

524
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Were really really good in college that you would be

525
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: signed to be professional.

526
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: So for me, I was just really happy to be

527
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: signed for anything.

528
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Like I thought, it was still insane that I'm like

529
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm getting paid to run, like even though I wasn't

530
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: getting paid very much. Just knowing that, like I'm doing

531
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: this for my job and I'm like getting paid enough

532
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: that like I don't have to do anything else was

533
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: kind of bizarre to me, and it made me feel

534
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: like I really need to show that I deserve this

535
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: and that I can make an Olympic team, that I

536
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: can be on that kind of world world beater level.

537
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: And after having my first injury, it was super, super

538
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: gutting and it made me feel like, Okay, my first

539
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: year out of college was kind of a wash. I

540
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: made a world cross team, but I didn't do any

541
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: track and I'm a track athlete, so I just I

542
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: missed all of that. I did some road racing and

543
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: then got my first bad injury. So for me, I

544
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: just felt like, what's wrong with me? I really want

545
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: to be I want to be good. I want to

546
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: be a world beater. I want to be making these

547
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: world and Olympic teams. But it was tough for me

548
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: to kind of feel like how can I press without

549
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: press like pushing over the line and breaking. So I

550
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: felt that pressure of can I work out with this

551
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: intensity and train at this level without getting injured and

552
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: kind of show that I deserve to be here, And

553
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: that was a struggle for me. When I had two

554
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: years and two bad injuries in a row that were

555
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: kind of telling me like, maybe your body can't handle this,

556
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: maybe you're not meant to do this.

557
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: Maybe you can do this at.

558
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: A good level, but not at a great level. And

559
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: for me, I was like, I wanted, if I want

560
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: to do this, I want to be great. I want

561
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: to be giving it all I have, want to be

562
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: competing with the best in the world. And I think

563
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: that was hard for me because it made me feel like,

564
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't for me, and maybe I can't I

565
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: can't compete at that level.

566
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: How do you combat that negative self talk?

567
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: Were you at the time working with any sort of

568
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: sports psychologist or seeking any sort of like help on

569
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: the mental side of things.

570
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough because I don't know.

571
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: I feel like previously I had never questioned myself to

572
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: that extent, And I think it's easy. I don't want

573
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: to say like when I'm young and naive, but kind

574
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: of when I'm like just excited to be like I

575
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: was getting better and better and better. I never had

576
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: any huge roadblocks in my high school or college career.

577
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: I was super lucky with that.

578
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: So having kind of those dark thoughts and frustrating feelings

579
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: and lots of moments of doubt made me seek out

580
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: a sports psychologist, and then that was just working with

581
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist here and was struggling with anxiety and like

582
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of depression, and having people to talk

583
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: to help me sow so much. And I think the

584
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: biggest thing I learned about that is just that, like,

585
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I love this for so many reasons, but I'm intrinsically motivated,

586
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: and that I have to kind of remove all of

587
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: the thoughts of like other people think I don't deserve this,

588
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: or that I have to prove myself to them and whatnot.

589
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm like these people put enough faith in me and

590
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: they thought I deserve to be here, that like, I

591
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: can't kind of ruin this for myself by telling myself

592
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: that I don't deserve to be here. Like, everyone gets injured.

593
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: It's part of the sport, and it's it's unfortunate, But

594
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: when you're pushing yourself to that extreme, like we're all

595
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: kind of writing a line and knowing that like it

596
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: doesn't make me fragile or broken, or that I don't

597
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: deserve it or that I can't handle it. It's just

598
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: that I have to kind of reevaluate what I'm doing

599
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: and know that I'm a different athlete and a different

600
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: p than anyone else. So I have to know why

601
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: my body is reacting in this way and kind of

602
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: looking in health wise towards that, but then as well

603
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: just looking at the mental side and saying like, just

604
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: because I have this injury or I have this amount

605
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: of time off, it doesn't mean I don't deserve this.

606
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: So kind of using.

607
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Both of those pieces to help me figure out like

608
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: why I got these two stress fractures, and then as

609
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: well to be like, just because I got these two

610
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: stress fractures doesn't mean that I don't deserve to be

611
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: here and doesn't mean that I can't be great. So

612
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: definitely having people to talk to was super super beneficial

613
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: for me. And then I think it's always easier when

614
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: then you get healthy. And I was able to get

615
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: healthy and kind of figure out my body and was

616
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: running really, really well. I think again helped my confidence

617
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: and helped me to know that I deserve to be there,

618
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: and I ended up kind of switching from a fifteen

619
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: to five k to running my first ten k in

620
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and I made my first outdoor Track and

621
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: Field World team and then I ended up meddling. So

622
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: it was I think super validating for me to know

623
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: that after I felt so low and like I didn't

624
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: deserve to be there, and like I had.

625
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: Two years that were really really rough out of college.

626
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I was able to kind of take a step back

627
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I still want to do this.

628
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm still going to give it everything I have. But

629
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: maybe for me, I can't run as many miles and

630
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm just going to try to run less miles. I'm

631
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: going to try to do the hard workouts, and then

632
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to work on the mental side and my

633
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: own self belief. And that having those two pieces together,

634
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: I think was what enabled me to go into a

635
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: completely new event and have confidence in myself and to

636
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: just go in there and compete. And I think just

637
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: competing and believing is what led me to be able

638
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: to meddle in that World Championship.

639
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: I also think, I mean, when it comes to this

640
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: recovery process, it's of course the mental side is really huge,

641
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: but also of such big importance is making sure that

642
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: you're fueling your body appropriately to heal all of these

643
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: bone injuries. You know on the show before, I've had

644
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: both Mary Kane and I've had Molly's sidel and they

645
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: both extensively, extensively dealt with injuries and coming back from that.

646
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: Speaking with nutritionis and such were huge for them. So

647
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: did you work with anyone on the eating side as well.

648
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, so that's something that I my first year

649
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: out of college, I think I just totally shifted. I

650
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: was just talking to this or talking to Yu Show

651
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: about this. But I feel like it's funny because in

652
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: college I and I definitely wouldn't recommend this, but I

653
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: feel like I definitely probably drink more beers.

654
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: And that kind of stuff.

655
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: So I like I cut out, I mean pretty much

656
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: a lot of alcohol when I became a professional, because

657
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm a professional runner now, Like I don't

658
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: need to be drinking all these like drinking beers. I

659
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: don't need to be like going out late, and like

660
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't need to be eating bad food.

661
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 4: So for me, I kind of cut out.

662
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Out a lot of stuff without supplementing, probably more of

663
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Speaker 1: like than nutrient dense food because I was like, well,

664
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: I like eat pretty balance, but like I do indulge

665
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: more and like fun fetty cake and like stuff that

666
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be eating. So I kind of took a

667
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 1: one avy of being like I'm going to cut all

668
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: this stuff out, but I didn't supplement it with anything.

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00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: So I just was not fueling properly. I wasn't taking

670
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: in enough calories, I think, especially for the intensity I

671
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Speaker 1: was doing. And I thought I was being like healthy

672
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: and I was being smart and I was like looking

673
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: at like what I should be eating, but I wasn't

674
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: eating enough of that. And I also think that there's

675
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: some like you should never be fully cutting things out.

676
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: I like, now that I'm older, I'm like, I think

677
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: that's like unless you have like an intolerance or an allergy,

678
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I think there's like no need to just completely like

679
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: cut out something from your diet. And for me, I

680
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: was like, I shouldn't eat anything that's like quote unquote bad,

681
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: like whether it be chips or ice cream or like

682
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: any yeah, anything that's like junk food. But I'm like,

683
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: when I'm running a lot and like really intensely training,

684
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: it's okay to have some of that stuff, and especially

685
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: if you're not like I felt like, I just I

686
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: wasn't supplementing it with more more calories and good nutrient

687
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: like nutrient dense food.

688
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: So I did lose like quite a bit of weight.

689
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I like I'm five four and I'm probably like somewhere

690
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: around the like one one ten, like I'm one ten

691
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: to one twenty. I don't know what I am, but

692
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. But I got down to I think

693
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: under one hundred pounds, which was just like way too little.

694
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: And I never I never weighed myself until I got

695
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: to a point where I just was not I was

696
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: breaking down, like my body was broken down.

697
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: I was not able to work out.

698
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I was really struggling like I would just bonk, And

699
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: it was because I wasn't fueling properly.

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Speaker 2: At the time, did you feel like slimming down was

722
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: kind of part of your strategy to an effect?

723
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 4: I so that's what's.

724
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: Hard is that I honestly like, don't think I was

725
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: super super aware of that.

726
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: I did.

727
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: I know that I looked around, and it's hard because

728
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: in college I rarely go on let's run or any

729
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: of those things. But I've always been someone who people

730
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: look at and they're like, oh, she's like a like

731
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: an average size, Like we have a regular girl running,

732
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: like she looks normal, Like she doesn't look and it's

733
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: like weird because I was like, I feel like that's

734
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to compliment me, but it's like

735
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: a weird thing to be like, you look average, you

736
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: don't look thin like all those other runners, And I'm like,

737
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: that's a weird thing to say. But I like never

738
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: I felt I thought I hadn't let it get into

739
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: my head. But then I think when I became a professional,

740
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: and I was looking around and looking at all these

741
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: women who were super super cut, and I felt like

742
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: I was someone who like, yes, I'm I run a lot,

743
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: I work out a lot, I'm like thin, but I'm

744
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: not like ripped. I was like, is there something wrong

745
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: with me? And I think that probably led into some

746
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: like subconscious and unconscious, like looking at like, oh, I

747
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: can't have ice cream because like I don't have a

748
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: six pack, so like I need like I want to

749
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: look like an elite athlete when like in reality, most

750
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: of those women, like everyone's different, and.

751
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: But people who look the way they do like they've

752
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: been training for years and years and years.

753
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: It's not like they overnight have a six pack or whatever.

754
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 4: But it's also like everyone's different.

755
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: Like I just know myself and my body, and even

756
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: when I am really really fitting in the shape of

757
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: my life, I'm not like super super cut.

758
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: So I didn't get injured.

759
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: I feel like initially after that, which I almost think

760
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: is kind of a telltale sign of your body. I

761
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: think it's good when that happens, because it's your body

762
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, you're underfueling, like you need to take

763
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: care of yourself. But I didn't get my stress fracture

764
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: until like six months after. I realized I had kind

765
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: of lost probably like fifteen pounds over like a seven

766
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: month period, which is significant especially with someone I was

767
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: already pretty thin, and I think I just had a

768
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: delayed effect of probably not fueling properly in that chunk,

769
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: as well as super super low vitamin D. After my

770
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: first stress fracture, I went and got all my blood

771
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: panels tested because at that point I had gained back weight,

772
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: I had gained back muscle, and I was thankful, being

773
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: like oh man, like I was riding a fine line.

774
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 4: But I didn't get injured, like I was super lucky.

775
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: I just was really fatigued and kind of bonked and

776
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: ended up not running track just to kind of make

777
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: sure I could weight and get back into feeling strong

778
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: and healthy again. But then after six months later, I

779
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: think I just had delayed effect of probably improper fueling

780
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: for seven or eight months, and then on top of that,

781
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: I was taking no supplements. I was living in Portland, Oregon,

782
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: and I just had no vitamin D and I think

783
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: that contributed to.

784
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: My first stress fracture, and then my second one.

785
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: I think was just compensation probably from my first one.

786
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: And then I think putting on maybe a little too

787
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: much weight because I had this fear and which I

788
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: almost I think that's better, Like I had this fear

789
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: that part of why I got my stress fracture was

790
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: because I was underfueling, and I think that was valid

791
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: and accurate. So I think when I was recovering, I

792
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: really made sure that I was fueling well. But I

793
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: do think I then probably rushed back my comeback from

794
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: that injury because I thought, you know what, like I

795
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: had this first injury, I have a lot of ground

796
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: to make up, and I think it was too much

797
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: stress on my bones trying to just jump right back in.

798
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: And about six months into running from that recovery from

799
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Speaker 1: the first sacrel stress fracture, I got a second one.

800
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Speaker 1: So that made me really look and be like, what

801
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: am I doing wrong. I had talked to a nutritionist

802
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: who I worked with kind of after my first stress fraction,

803
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: then worked with her after my second one, and we

804
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: really dialed in kind of what I was doing, and

805
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean she gave me confidence as well, and that

806
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: like I was doing things pretty right and that it's

807
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: most likely you're better to overfuel than underfuel. And I

808
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: think that was a good piece of advice for me.

809
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's something I don't know, I wish

810
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: more people talked about.

811
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Speaker 4: I think it's hard. I feel like we always think.

812
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: It's better, you're better to be littler and slimmer. But

813
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I do think it's knowing that we are pushing our

814
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: bodies really hard. We need to be fueling, and yes,

815
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: we do need to be fueling well and eating good

816
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: nutrient dense things, but like.

817
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 4: We are also working so hard.

818
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: You can have your treats, you can have your indulgences,

819
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: and that at the end of the day, like if

820
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: you're fueling, like overheeling a little bit, that's way better

821
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: than underfueling.

822
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: And also just like living a life that makes you

823
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: feel fulfilled and happy, like ye, I love what you

824
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: said before about like leading into funfetti cake like life

825
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: without funfetti cake isn't a life that I'm interested personally

826
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: in living.

827
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: So it's just like you have to.

828
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: Find the things that make you happy and just like

829
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: not have I think like the biggest hurdle a lot

830
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: of the time when it comes to like finding a

831
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: diet that works for you is just like learning how

832
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: to eat in a way that makes you feel good

833
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 2: regardless of what you're intaking, and not eating to access

834
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: in a way that makes you feel bad. Like we

835
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: label these quote unquote bad foods, and then the second

836
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: that we see them, it's like a flag goes off

837
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: and it's either like you're all in or like you

838
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: can't touch. But it's like finding that balance instead and

839
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: getting to a place where you just feel okay about

840
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: what you're putting into your body.

841
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I think that's so good.

842
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: And I just I mean, I think restricting yourself in

843
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: any way is not good, because I think that's what

844
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: you end up either falling into a pattern of like

845
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: you start to you take something out and then it's

846
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: like you've just restricted yourself from so much and you

847
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: either then fall into that disordered eating of really not

848
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: eating enough, or you then feel like oh, my gosh,

849
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: I've restricted for X amount of time, Like now I

850
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: need to eat like a gallon of ice cream because

851
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: I haven't had it, and I'm like, that's also that good,

852
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: but just knowing that, like it's okay, and I think

853
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't know for me, I've learned now that, like

854
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: I don't have wine every single night, but like, if

855
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: I want a glass of wine, I'm gonna have a

856
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: glass of wine, and I'm not gonna feel bad about it.

857
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: But like I there are certain times in the year

858
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: where I just don't crave it and I don't want it,

859
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: and that's fine. And sometimes I'm like I just want

860
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: like sparkling water and cherry juice, and that's totally good.

861
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: But if I want a glass of wine, I'm gonna

862
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: have a glass of wine. And if I want ice cream,

863
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: like after dinner, I'm going to have ice cream after dinner.

864
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's like every day for two weeks straight

865
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: and then I don't have it for two weeks. But

866
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: that's just because that's what I feel like I want

867
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: at that time, and that's what my body needs, and

868
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: that makes me a happy person, and I'd rather be

869
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: happy in.

870
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Speaker 3: Life about that.

871
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: You talked about the twenty fifteen World Championships taking bronze

872
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: there and then talk me through making your first Olympic team.

873
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

874
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: So I was super super thrilled. I mean, I was

875
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: astounded in my mind. I was so happy to make

876
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: the World Championship team. I just really wanted to compete there,

877
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: and I still I was so shocked to medal and

878
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: it just really made me believe like I'm going to

879
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: make this Olympic team. Like I know I can make

880
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: this Olympic team. I love the ten k. I found

881
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: a love for that event and I was really really excited,

882
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: but I also wanted to kind of prove that that

883
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke.

884
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: I was feeling little nervous, and I think it's hard.

885
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: There's always outside noise, and I think you we all

886
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: tend to focus on the one negative comment versus the

887
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: hundred positive comments. So for me, I was focusing on

888
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: a few comments of people saying, you know, I didn't

889
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: I didn't really deserve to meddle or I was in

890
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: a tactical race, and it made me feel like, you

891
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to prove to these people.

892
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: I do deserve to be here.

893
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm do deserve to be a world contender, and I

894
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: can be a world beater.

895
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: I can be one of the top in the US.

896
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: So I was excited, invigorated, felt confident, but also had

897
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: still this kind of fire in me that like, I

898
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: wanted to prove these people wrong and these people who were.

899
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: Saying I didn't deserve it or didn't earn that.

900
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: And then because of that, I think I pushed it

901
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: a little too hard. I up my miles a bit

902
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: too much, and I was having this adduct or pain

903
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: that would come and go intermittently, and it was so

904
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: funny because I could kind of keep it at bay.

905
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 4: And it got to the point where it pulled.

906
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: On my bone and I fractured my hip, which is

907
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: really frustrating. So that was in March of twenty sixteen,

908
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: and our Olympic trials were the third week in June.

909
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: So I went from feeling so invigorated, so confident, just

910
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: fired up, being like I'm going to prove anyone wrong

911
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: who says I don't deserve to be there, to at

912
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: the end of March having a stress fracture in my hip.

913
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: And what was so frustrating about this was it wasn't

914
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: due to pounding or force. It was due to my

915
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: adductor being so tight and pulling on the bone that

916
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: it just it pulled, like literally broke my bone, which

917
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: is really really frustrating to be like, it's not an

918
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: impact fracture. But because of that, I only had to

919
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: take three weeks off of running and then was able

920
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: to slowly work my way back in. I went to Phoenix,

921
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: Arizona to work with John Ball, who is just like amazing.

922
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: He's like a guru, and he was the person who

923
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: told me he's like you can, Like you just need

924
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: to get your adductor loose, so it's taking the pressure

925
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: off your bone and you'll be able to run and

926
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: you'll be able to get back in your routine. And

927
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: that made me feel like, man, I was like perfectly

928
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: set up, like I was in a great place to

929
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: make this team. And I had two weeks where I

930
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: felt so dark and low and I was like, well,

931
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: my Olympic dream is done, Like this was my year

932
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: to make the team. I'm not going to make the team.

933
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: But then going to Arizona and having someone tell me

934
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: like this wasn't due like this is only due to

935
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: this adductor being too tight, like you are doing everything right.

936
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Your fueling is right, nutrition is right, like your mileage,

937
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: your training, everything is good. You just have to be

938
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: cognizant of that. And we need to keep this adduct

939
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: or at bay and getting intensive work on that and

940
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: taking that pressure off my bone. I was able to

941
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: slide back into training and do a ton more cross

942
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: training and I was running a lot less miles but

943
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: doing the intense workouts. And then about two weeks for

944
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: the Olympic trials, my coach. At that point, I was

945
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: still worried that I was not going to make the team.

946
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: I was not quite sure if I was back to

947
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: like my one hundred percent or my even my ninety percent.

948
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: But my coach, Jerry, pulled me aside and he's like,

949
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: you know what, like your workout yesterday indicated to me

950
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: that like you're going to make this team, Like we're

951
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: going to buy your ticket to Rio, like we need

952
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: to get your ticket before it gets too expensive, blah

953
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: blah blah. But like, just know that I had the

954
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: utmost confidence in you and making this team. And having

955
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: him say that to me changed my attitude and I

956
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: was like I have to make this team. I also

957
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: was the first woman on our team running on the track,

958
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: and he said to me too, he was like, you

959
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: have to set a good standard for these other women,

960
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: like everyone's we want we all want to make the team,

961
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: but like you are the one that's starting it off,

962
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: like you have to show them that it can be

963
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: done and that you will make this team. And I

964
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: think having him set that belief in me and confidence

965
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: in me, as well as him telling me like, you know,

966
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: this is for our team, like we all want to

967
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: do this together, like you are starting it off on

968
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: a good note, like started off on the best note,

969
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: put a good sense of pressure on me and that

970
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I have the ability to do this.

971
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: I can do this, Like I want to show these

972
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: younger girls on the team that, like, we all will

973
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: be running in Rio and we'll all be making this team.

974
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: And it was pretty incredible because all of us, all

975
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: of the women on the team at the time that

976
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: ran at the Olympic Trials made the team, which was

977
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: pretty pretty special.

978
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: Was that like as empowering as you make it out

979
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: to be or did you also feel like, holy crap,

980
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: how am I can I even do this? Oh?

981
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I definitely definitely felt like that. I it

982
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: was so tough because I just had to try to

983
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: push those thoughts out and I'm like, I'm not even

984
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: thinking about that, Like I'm making this team, like I'm

985
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: going to crawl across the finish line to be like

986
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: to get the most out of myself. And I was like,

987
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: just remove that doubt from your mind. But it's hard,

988
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: Like I feel like until he kind of said that

989
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: to me, every day, I was still doubting.

990
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know where I'm at.

991
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: Like I also was the only girl running the ten

992
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: k on the team, so I was working out by myself,

993
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: so I had no one to really key off of,

994
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know, Like we were at

995
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: altitude and I'm like, I don't even know what these

996
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: times mean. I don't know what kind of shape I'm in.

997
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: And having my coach be like it doesn't matter, like

998
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: you're in good shape, like you just go out there

999
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: and compete, like you can make this team. You will

1000
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: make this team. And having him have that confidence in

1001
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: me just made me feel more confident in myself and

1002
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: made me be like this is like I can do this,

1003
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Like I am capable of this. I need to take

1004
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: that doubt away. And then just going out there racing

1005
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: and being around these women that I have raced against

1006
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: and have competed against made me during the race.

1007
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I think any in every race we do,

1008
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: but in the ten K.

1009
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: I feel like I go through fa of like I

1010
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: feel so great, I feel so good, like I'm literally

1011
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: so easy, and then two laps later, I'm like.

1012
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: Uh oh, I feel like we're running too hard.

1013
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: I feel like this feels too edgy for me for

1014
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: this time and the race, and then it's like two

1015
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: laps later, you feel good again. It's all a lot

1016
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: of ups and downs and just trying to like weather

1017
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: those feelings. So for me, I knew it was going

1018
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: to feel like that, and I just tried to stay

1019
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: calm and I tried to remind myself that I've run

1020
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: against these women before that I can put myself right

1021
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: in it, and I think to just having the pressure

1022
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: of knowing I have teammates coming after me that I

1023
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: was like, I want to make this team and I

1024
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: know we can all make this team.

1025
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: And then it was super like an insane week. Just

1026
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: having all the women make the team was just it

1027
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: was super super special.

1028
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: And then so that brings us to Rio. So talk

1029
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: to me about Rio.

1030
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Rio was rough for me. I don't.

1031
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating because I think I had to get

1032
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: in such good shape for the trials and kind of

1033
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: really peak for the trials because I was coming off

1034
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: of my injury that it was hard for me to

1035
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: come off of that super super high of making the

1036
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: team and just kind of peeking for that race to

1037
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: then go and have a stellar performance at Rio. And

1038
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: I just was thrown into a race where the world

1039
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: record was shattered, and the world record in the ten

1040
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: k at the time was a dirty world record, So

1041
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: it was something that I never in my wildest dreams

1042
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: would have imagined it would have run been run as

1043
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: fast as it was. But there was I think three

1044
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: women who were under the previous world record, and the

1045
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: woman who set the new world record just completely shattered

1046
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: that record. And it was record set by a Chinese

1047
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: woman who admitted to doping, but it was a weird

1048
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: thing where she had never tested positive and she admitted

1049
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: to doping like ten, like over ten years after the

1050
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: record was set, so her record was still standing even

1051
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: though she had said she was doped.

1052
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: She said that record, but other.

1053
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Weird things with track and field that sometimes I'm like,

1054
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand how things work. But it was an

1055
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: unheard of race that I was in, and I do

1056
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: not think I was on my a game.

1057
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: So I got lapped.

1058
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: Eighteen minutes into the race, and it was one of

1059
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: the time. I think it was probably the toughest moment

1060
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: I've had in my running career. Of feeling so high

1061
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: of making that Olympic team, of being so stoked to

1062
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: be there, to then realizing I was so far off

1063
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: and that I got lapped like a little over halfway

1064
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: into the race was pretty gutting. So it's still a

1065
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: memory that I want to have a different Olympic experience.

1066
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I really want to make another team, and that's why

1067
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm so motivated for that. But it's it's just tough

1068
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: our sport can be. There's such highs and such lows,

1069
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: and it's so funny to think that something I had

1070
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: imagined for so long was just so different than what

1071
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: I imagined it to be. And I think it was

1072
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: a tough lesson, but I think it was important for

1073
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: me to also know that coming off of twenty fifteen,

1074
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: like I had a killer killer year, and you don't

1075
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: always have that. You have races where I mean, in

1076
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: that race in particular, I still ran good but not great,

1077
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: and I just and that's okay, But it was for

1078
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: me being good on that day was just being so

1079
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: far off of these women who had these unbelievable performances.

1080
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: How do you keep your head up when these injuries

1081
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: keep coming and coming and coming. I know, spoiler alert,

1082
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: you went through a couple more in the years since Rio,

1083
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: So talk to me about how you, you know, beat

1084
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: that defeatist attitude.

1085
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I I do.

1086
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: It's hard because I every time I get an injury,

1087
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: I think it's been less and less, but I still

1088
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: fall into that belief and feeling of like, man, is

1089
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 1: this my time being done? Like my body just really

1090
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: doesn't want to work with me, And especially when I

1091
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: feel like I've sought out so much help outside of

1092
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: that to see that I'm still breaking down and these

1093
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: things are still happening. But just trying to tell myself

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Speaker 1: that it is part of the sport, and it's an

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Speaker 1: unfortunate part of the sport. But there's no there's no

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Speaker 1: recipe for everyone. It's not like you get three injuries

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Speaker 1: and that's your injury quota and you're going to be

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Speaker 1: healthy the rest of your time. It's so different person

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Speaker 1: a person, and it's a constant balance, and you have

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Speaker 1: to constantly be checking in with your body and revamping

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Speaker 1: your exercise routine, your prehab, your rehab routine. And for me,

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Speaker 1: just knowing that my hips are my problem area and

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Speaker 1: I had hip surgery a little over a year and

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Speaker 1: a half ago, and I think that has been a

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Speaker 1: game changer for me. It's been really really hard recovery,

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Speaker 1: but I do think a lot of my injuries were

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Speaker 1: stemming from my hip structure and I shaved They shaved

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Speaker 1: back my hip socket and reshape my femur head, restructured

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Speaker 1: it and then put my I labor them.

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Speaker 4: Together with sutures or staples or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So knowing that I had something that was significantly wrong

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Speaker 1: with my hip just mal formed, has given me a

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Speaker 1: little confidence that a lot of these injuries are due

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Speaker 1: to that and that's something that it was a structural

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Speaker 1: issue that needed to be changed. And knowing that I

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Speaker 1: have still had good performances coming off of that, even

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Speaker 1: when I'm not training at one hundred percent has given

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Speaker 1: me confidence that I still can be good and I

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Speaker 1: still can be competitive, but it might just look different

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Speaker 1: than training looked like previously. And I think that's a

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Speaker 1: good reminder to everyone that there is no perfect recipe

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Speaker 1: or solution or training plan, like if there was one

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Speaker 1: set training plan, and it's like if you run this

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Speaker 1: amount of miles and do these.

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Speaker 4: Workouts, like you will be the best.

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Speaker 1: But it's everyone figuring out what works best for them

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Speaker 1: and for me as well. Just getting older, I like

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Speaker 1: hate saying that because I'm thirty. I feel like thirty

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Speaker 1: is not that old, but in this sport, I just

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Speaker 1: think the more years you put on your legs running

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Speaker 1: you just have to know that you need to take

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Speaker 1: a little more care into your maintenance routine and kind

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Speaker 1: of warming up before running and doing all the due

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Speaker 1: diligence after.

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Speaker 4: I want to prevent injuries. I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Everything I can to be my strongest self and to

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Speaker 1: be well rounded, to make sure that I have my sleep,

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Speaker 1: my nutrition, we have everything dialed in and my team

1139
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Speaker 1: of people that will help me through that. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, like sometimes injuries just happen

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00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: and we could be doing everything right. So just knowing

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Speaker 1: that it's okay, and that you do want to do

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00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: your due diligence, check in out everything, make sure you

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Speaker 1: are going through all the steps, all the motions, but

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: that if something happens, like sometimes things just happen, and

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Speaker 1: you can't totally beat yourself up about it because at

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Speaker 1: the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the day, we're doing the best we can.

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Speaker 1: But we're all learning, all using the information we have

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Speaker 1: in front of us. And that's what I still feel

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Speaker 1: like I have more in me and that's what's driving

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Speaker 1: me most today and then just letting myself learn from

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Speaker 1: all the mistakes I've made and just.

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Speaker 4: Try to keep growing. Is a better athlete in person.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier just how in awe you had been

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Speaker 2: of Slaine early on in your career, and then of

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Speaker 2: course recently with her heading on over to be a

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Speaker 2: coach with Nike. How has that experience been for you,

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Speaker 2: kind of bringing this full circle, It's been.

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Speaker 4: Super super cool. I love Slaine.

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Speaker 1: She's just I mean, she's one of the greatest athletes

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Speaker 1: competitors ever, but she's just an amazing person. She cares

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Speaker 1: so much, she loves the sport, and what's super cool

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Speaker 1: is that she really wants she wants to see constant

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Speaker 1: betterment of the women in the sport, and she wants

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Speaker 1: to see records being broken, and she wants to be

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Speaker 1: part of that. And she has been such a leader

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I followed her example for so long.

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Speaker 1: But it's really cool to see her transition into now

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Speaker 1: being a coach, and she just loves it and she

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Speaker 1: gets so invested, and she's so passionate. And she's just

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Speaker 1: as passionate as she is about our performances as she

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Speaker 1: was about her performances when she was competing.

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Speaker 2: When someone goes to your social media, they see an athlete,

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Speaker 2: a professional for a Nike. They see your accolades on

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Speaker 2: the track seventy to almost thousand followers.

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Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

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Speaker 3: you see looking back at you?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I feel like I just see someone who

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Speaker 1: wants more, who wants to keep pushing themselves. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm super happy. I love my life.

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Speaker 1: I feel really really thankful for that. I have a

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Speaker 1: wonderful partner who supports me. I have a cat who

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Speaker 1: will sleep on me and try to per to like

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Speaker 1: heal me whenever I'm feeling tired.

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Speaker 4: But I just I do.

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Speaker 1: I feel really lucky to be where I'm at right now,

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Speaker 1: but I don't feel like I'm completely done yet. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I have more to my story and there's

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Speaker 1: more that I want to get done. So I think

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Speaker 1: I mostly just feel invigorated and excited. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling like that today. Sometimes I look in the mirror

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Speaker 1: and I feel exhausted and I'm like, oh man, like woof.

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Speaker 1: But today I feel like really happy and excited for

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Speaker 1: this year and just excited to get back into the

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Speaker 1: training group.

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Speaker 2: If you had a chance right now to put one

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Speaker 2: last thing on your Instagram as some sort of a

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Speaker 2: quote post, this is a big pressure question, what would

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Speaker 2: you want that tidbit of wisdom to be?

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Speaker 1: Okay, a quote post wisdom was I was just gonna

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Speaker 1: say to be yourself and be your best self.

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Speaker 4: I think it's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: And when people I see this everywhere, like not just

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Speaker 1: to me, but other women are girls who are like

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Speaker 1: I want to be you, Like how can I be you?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, just be you, Like you be your

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Speaker 1: best version of yourself. Don't try to be someone else version,

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Speaker 1: don't try to form yourself into another person. But if

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Speaker 1: you can be your absolute best self and do what

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Speaker 1: is best for you. Like that is what I think

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Speaker 1: we all need to focus on, because we're all amazing,

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Speaker 1: We're all unique, and I don't think you have to

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Speaker 1: form into this ideal image of a person.

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Speaker 4: Don't feel like.

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Speaker 1: You need to change who you are to be better,

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Speaker 1: because you can keep pushing yourself and be your best

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Speaker 1: self by being you.

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Speaker 3: What else excites you right now?

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Speaker 1: I feel like right now, knowing how fast two of

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Speaker 1: my teammates in particular have run this last year just

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Speaker 1: made me feel like a whole new door is opened

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Speaker 1: and like a realm of possibility. So I'm excited just

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Speaker 1: seeing how fast American distance running has gotten. And that's

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Speaker 1: just made me feel like I can be a lot

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Speaker 1: faster than I am right now, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: my biggest motivator is I do want to make another

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Speaker 1: Olympic team and I want to be competitive there, but

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Speaker 1: I want to run a lot faster than I run,

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Speaker 1: And that's what excites me the most and gets me

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Speaker 1: out the door and get to be wanting to push

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Speaker 1: myself every day.

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Speaker 4: And even right now.

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Speaker 1: There's no races on the calendar, so there's nothing that

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Speaker 1: exciting to look forward to. It's just kind of going

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Speaker 1: to be monotonous training for a while, but knowing that

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Speaker 1: building that monotonous training is going to allow me to

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Speaker 1: race at my highest level, whatever that may be. But

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Speaker 1: knowing that I don't think I've raced there yet, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like I can run a lot faster.

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Speaker 2: What would you say has been some of the best

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Speaker 2: advice that you've received in your career?

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Speaker 1: To not compare yourself to other people. I think that's

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Speaker 1: really hard, and I think especially for us, we look

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Speaker 1: at times, I mean we as we were talking about before,

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Speaker 1: You look at body types, you look at what people,

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Speaker 1: what people look like, who are running certain times, or

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01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: you just you measure yourself on a time you've run

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Speaker 1: versus what other people have run. But for me, I

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: think it gives me confiden seeing people around you who

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Speaker 1: are running so fast, but knowing that you can't directly

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Speaker 1: You can never directly compare because every race is different,

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Speaker 1: every situation is different. Even though even if we're running

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Speaker 1: out in a track, the weather could be different, the

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Speaker 1: pacing can be different.

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Speaker 4: So you just don't know.

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Speaker 1: So I think letting that invigorate you, but to not

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Speaker 1: compare and then feel bad. And I think in the

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Speaker 1: age of social media, it's cool because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people push their workouts and say what they've done and

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Speaker 1: this or that, But I think it's easy for someone

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Speaker 1: to fall victim to feeling like they're not good enough

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Speaker 1: or they haven't done well enough when you look at

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Speaker 1: this one workout, this one snippet from someone's entire training regime,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, my gosh, how did they do that? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think all people to do that, but instead

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Speaker 1: saying you don't know what the rest of their training looks. Like,

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Speaker 1: all you know is what you're doing your day in,

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Speaker 1: your day out, and you're doing the best you can

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Speaker 1: and you're getting the most out of yourself. Just being

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Speaker 1: excited for what you're doing, but not comparing yourself if

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Speaker 1: you see someone else and what they're doing. Especially I

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Speaker 1: found during injuries sometimes I just need to remove myself

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Speaker 1: from social media because I'm not strong enough to look

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Speaker 1: at what other people are doing. So yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: think just not comparing and if you need to take

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Speaker 1: a little break from social media. Those are probably my

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Speaker 1: two biggest pieces of advice.

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Speaker 2: You have an opportunity right now to offer yourself. I'm

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01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: going to say, straight out of college dealing with those

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Speaker 2: two back to back injuries. During that hurdle moment, you

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to offer yourself one piece of advice.

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Speaker 3: What do you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: Oh, man, I think that I just didn't need to

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Speaker 1: change as much as I thought I did. I looked

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: at myself as being a like quote unquote professional runner

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01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: and saying I need to do so much differently from

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Speaker 1: what I did in college, and I think that was

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Speaker 1: my downfall. I was someone who was super super balanced

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Speaker 1: in college and had a good head of my shoulders,

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Speaker 1: and I think I just didn't give myself enough credit

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Speaker 1: for all I was doing then and felt like I

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Speaker 1: had to change a lot of what I was doing

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Speaker 1: to become what I felt like was a professional runner.

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Speaker 3: I am so so grateful for your time. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for hanging out with me today.

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you. This has been really fun.

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Speaker 2: Please take a moment and leave a quick review by

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Speaker 2: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We

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Speaker 2: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear

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Speaker 2: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at hurdle

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Speaker 3: Give me all of your details.

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Speaker 1: Hi, so you can follow me on Instagram at Emily

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I am at Emily a body at Hurdle Podcast, Another

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Speaker 2: hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.