1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Ruby. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Rick Schwartz. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: What is the world? 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm MARKA what and this this is Amazing Wildlife where 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: we explore unique stories of wildlife from around the world 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: and uncover fascinating animal facts. Now, this podcast is brought 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: to you in partnership with iHeartRadio's Ruby Studio and San 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance, in international nonprofit conservation organization which 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: oversees the San Diego Zoo. And this beautiful place, or 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: might I say amazing place, the San Diego Zoo Safari. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: Park is very amazing, sir. Why you're doing your monologu 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: which I always appreciate it rude us for that. You 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: rocked it, you killed it. Yeah, I saw a kestrel, 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: flussy cheek, iabase ravens, the crows. 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh look there's an ecret going on. We got turkey 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: vultures for me. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: That, my friend, is the official symbol of the Safari Park, 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: which is. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Interesting because the Safari Park is more about, you know, 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: wildlife from around the world, AMG. And the turkey vultures 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: are local. But you're right, every morning when the sun 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: comes up, these local birds find that updraft. They love 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: to go up in the Yeah, even some back here. 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: I think you mentioned earlier. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: I was just going to say that this is the 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: only spot in the Safari Park for guests at are 27 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: listening and watching. By the way, because we've got some 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 3: visuals going up check it out on YouTube in the future, 29 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: that this is the only spot I see turkey vultures 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: actually on the ground. 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: There's a drinker back there. 32 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: So I love it, right, wildlife all over. I know 33 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm pushing the bird thing, but we gotta. 34 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: I gotta let you do that. 35 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Every EPISODK. 36 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: I appreciate that I got it out of my assistant 37 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: because you got to talk about it. 38 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Mammal Right, the longest day, the longest. 39 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Day is coming on. In fact, the day after this 40 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: episode comes out. It's the longest day in the Northern 41 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: Hemisphere as far as the amount of light in that day. 42 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I was saying earlier, it's like my happiest 43 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: and saddest day. 44 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I got to say the year. 45 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: Well, because you know, there's there's turns of daylight and 46 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: I love the sun, you know. Well, then I think about, 47 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: you know, the next day is going to be a 48 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: little bit less, you know, I know, I know it's 49 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: very dramatic. 50 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: I'll get you a card for the twenty second. 51 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Thanks that you know. 52 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: But by the way, so it's the world's longest day, 53 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: but it's also associated with a day of celebration. 54 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Mammal that might be right behind yeah, one behind me 55 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: right now in the background are will you look at that? 56 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: And well, you know, I mean we should probably talk 57 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: to someone who works with these animals. 58 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: We should probably acknowledge we have the wonderful Natalie here 59 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: who's giggling at us as Natalie. 60 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Welcome. 61 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for being. 62 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: Here, Thanks for having me. 63 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. And I know we're going to talk 64 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: about your rapid earlier. I'm going to get it out 65 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: there because I was telling you all the wildlife around here. 66 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: There's a hawk here called the zone tail hawk that 67 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: does aggressive in the cry. I know I'm talking about it. 68 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: Hold on, everyone with the draft. It does aggressive mimicry. 69 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: So it flies with turkey vultures to look like a 70 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: turkey vulture. But you have to look for a white 71 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: band on the tail. It's like the unicorn out here 72 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: the Safari Park. So friend, when you see it, you let. 73 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: Me know it sounds good. 74 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Don't give you a call. 75 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so those in our watching the video, she just 76 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: told me, did you guys get. 77 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: The eye roll? I think got the ie roll? 78 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: MANA, all right, that was a pretty differend though, you 79 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: mean to the point your office. 80 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I gotta say, can you reference where 81 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: are we exactly? At the Safari Park? Yeah? 82 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely, So we're in our East Africa savan a habitat, 83 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 5: and we have over ten different species in here of 84 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 5: varying ungulates. 85 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: It's wonderful. 86 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, there you go. 87 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: Sorry, is a type of host stock. 88 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so some. 89 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: Of your co workers tallest ones are behind. 90 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: Them, my tallest coworkers out here. So we have six 91 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: giraffe out here. We have one male and five females. 92 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah wow, okay, yeah, they have varying ages. 93 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 5: Our youngest is about to be three and our oldest 94 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: is approaching ten and eleven. 95 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 96 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: And you know this area is a very popular spot, 97 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: especially the African Tram which is included in tickets. 98 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: And also there's one in a Spaniola and Spaniel African family. 99 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to say as well, but this area is 100 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: East Savannah habitat. 101 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: R Yeah, East Africa Savannah. Yeah, absolutely plant. 102 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: It's so cool the things that you do at here, 103 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: So giraffe World's Longest day really unique. I like the 104 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: different kind of animals out there. I think of like 105 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: a platypus or a cassowary giraffe TOI right, I mean, 106 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: what is up with a giraffe? 107 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: What's going on with that? 108 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: You would never believe it. 109 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: I mean if someone told me that unicorns were real, 110 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: I'd be like, okay, cool, And then you say, oh, 111 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 5: there's an animal with a twelve to thirteen footneck, and 112 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: be like what in the world. 113 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: On the drive down here, I was listening to the 114 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: episode of Charlie Hyde who killed It by the way, 115 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: and I sort of think other things, you know, because 116 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: I know everyone knows I'm a bird guy, but giraffe 117 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: get me really excited. There's a kid aspect that I love, 118 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: and I was trying to pinpoint what is it about 119 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: him for me? You know what it was? 120 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I love dinosaurs as a kid, and one of my 121 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: favorites was. 122 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: The brownish saurus. So it's one with a super long neck. 123 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: As a kid, I'm like, I wish we had animals 124 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: like that. But then I instantly looked at the giraffe. 125 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: I know it's an obvious thing for most people, but 126 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: maybe for a kid they don't know. 127 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Like, describe a giraffe in case there's someone out. 128 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: There in the world doesn't even know what a giraffe is, 129 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: can you speak to that. 130 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: Sure. 131 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: It's the tallest land mammal that you could ever imagine, 132 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: and essentially their legs are about as tall as I 133 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 5: am straight off the ground. 134 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: I'm not the tallest person. 135 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: World, but I think or something like that for a male. 136 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: So tall, yes, absolutely so. 137 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 5: The babies are usually born like straight out of the womb, 138 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 5: six feet tall. 139 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: Wo. 140 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, a baby a baby, yeah, and then they just 141 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 5: grow continuously from there. 142 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: The males usually average about eighteen feet. 143 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 5: Some of our females out here can range from fourteen 144 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: to sixteen as well. 145 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: Kind of depends on how old they are. 146 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 5: They grow for a long time and they're just covered 147 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 5: in spots, and they're big spots, and they have different 148 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 5: kind of coloring in between their spots, and the spots 149 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 5: are all unique to them. 150 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 4: So they're literally a fingerprint to a giraffe. 151 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. 152 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: That's a probably good way for you to identify and individually. Yeah, 153 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: but I love that, right, kids think about how unique 154 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: their thumb print is. 155 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: So giraffes have the kind of the. 156 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: Same Yeah, No, giraffe has the exact same spots. 157 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: Right. So second question I got. 158 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: So you're talking about like the long neck, the different pattern, 159 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: but where in the world do you find these guys, 160 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: Like why do they have all these things to survive? 161 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 162 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely, So they are in a very hot area of Africa, 163 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 5: and there's four different types and they're kind of all 164 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 5: over Africa. Okay, so we have ones that are in 165 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 5: Northern Africa, southern Eastern, I'm not totally sure about Western, 166 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: but they're all kind of around the same area. None 167 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 5: of them are actually intermingling right now, so they're keeping 168 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: separate species, which is really great for their future and conservation. 169 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 5: And Africa is hot, it is dry, everything is super 170 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: tall when it comes to trees and other types of 171 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: things that they like to eat, so they have the 172 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 5: long neck to be able to access all the food 173 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: that they usually get up tall. 174 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point, and then you think of 175 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: it that way too. 176 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at some grass right now, but 177 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: maybe it wouldn't be best for this kind of animal. 178 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: I think like a browser right right, So we're picking 179 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: leaves off of the trees right then. 180 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: But they're doing that like all day, right time job. 181 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 5: And they're so tall, they have unique adaptations to like 182 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 5: manage their blood pressure when they do have to bend 183 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: down to drink water, So they're very unique. You can't 184 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 5: just fold your legs down and they have to like 185 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: spread their legs out and dip their head down. Because 186 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 5: they're so tall, it takes so much work to get 187 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: the blood rushing up to their head and all the 188 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 5: way back down, So they're very unique. They have super 189 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: tight skin around their legs that allows them to be 190 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: able to bend down drink water and not get a 191 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 5: head rush when they stand back up. 192 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: And that's important, the tight skin because it keeps a 193 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: pressure on the vessels of names. 194 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't let all the blood rush to the 195 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 5: head when they get down. 196 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: It's funny, you know. I know for myself as a kid, 197 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: and I always admire drafts because they are so unique. 198 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: You think about all the other hoped animals that we 199 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: have around. For the most part, there's shapes and sizes, 200 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: although they vary, it's kind of a standard generalized thing 201 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: when you look at the giraffe. It's like, wait a minute, 202 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: they got stretched out. Never really thought of the fact that, yeah, 203 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: when I bend over sometimes you can get a little 204 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: bit of a head rush, or if you get up 205 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: too quickly, you get a little bit of a Disney spell. 206 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: You think about someone who's pushing fourteen eighteen feet in 207 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: height and they're bending down to drink the water. The physiology, 208 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: the way the body is built to help them manage 209 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: all that, it's truly fascinating. 210 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually inspired NASA to work with that idea 211 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 5: of how to control blood pressure, to work with some 212 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: of their spacesuits. 213 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: That's pretty clear. 214 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Giraffes and that. 215 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's a biommicry science, right, That's what that is 216 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: is if we look at things in the wild and go, 217 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: wait a minute, how do we possibly leverage that in 218 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: a man made way. 219 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Like the design of a raptor, like a falcon. 220 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: And so to your point there, if we can go 221 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: to the bird thing, anybody traveling to San Diego to 222 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: come to the zoos fire pork on your airplane that 223 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 2: probably have a little winglet on the air Yeah, twenty 224 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: years ago airplanes didn't have those, but when they started 225 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: studying the long primary feathers of eagles and hawks, they 226 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: realize that allows for better aerodynamic use of the wing 227 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: and it's more fuel fish for airplanes. I love that, 228 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: miss So see giraffe and hawks doing that thing. 229 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: I'm learning new things. 230 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I love it, you know. But to me, like you know, 231 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: I love the word diversity too. 232 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: And as we're talking all these really cool adaptations for 233 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: a large mammal in Africa that needs to eat a lot, 234 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: but it's a. 235 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Dry area, so I'm munch in every single day. 236 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: But I'm also seeing I'm going to talk about a 237 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: bird again, but it's a local bird of black crested 238 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: phoebe who look at the world very differently, like they 239 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: catch insects in the air, So for them, it's going 240 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: at a faster speed. But I love that as we're 241 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: sitting here, we have different types of visuals or realms 242 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: that are happening in wildlife and interacting with it sothern 243 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: in a different way in here. There's really unique interactions 244 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: that happen too with giraffe, right, I mean, because they're 245 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: so tall in Africa, right, I mean, other animals are 246 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: checking them out for particular reason. 247 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: Can you speak to that. 248 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: We call them the watch tower of the savannah. So 249 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: a group of giraffe is called a tower, and they're 250 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: just taller than everyone else. So they're cause stantly looking 251 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: around and seeing what's going on. So a lot of 252 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: animals read off of their behavior. If they start to 253 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 5: spook a predator, obviously anything smaller and littler must also 254 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 5: run away from said predator. Yeah, so that helps a 255 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 5: lot with them just being able to see over literally everything. 256 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean, but I know, we know that 257 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: they can move pretty good too, right. 258 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: Oh, they can move. 259 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 5: Yes, the long legs, you'd be like, okay, great, you 260 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: kind of just saunter around. They can get some high speeds. 261 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: They look very graceful when they run with really long legs, 262 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 5: galloping all over wid It's crazy to see. Yeah, they 263 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 5: can run so so gracefully over all these hills and 264 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: different sorts of terrain. So we're always really impressed at 265 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: how much they can move around this habitat. 266 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding, because the hoof is very unique. So 267 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: there's opposed to like a horse, it's like a two 268 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: toe as opposed to the right. Yeah, I mean, they're 269 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: navigating sand and rocks and grass and all sorts of 270 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: things after Oh, that's crazy. 271 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of the hoofs too, and the long legs obviously 272 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: a lot of muscle mass to make that body move. 273 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: A lot of times people are surprised to hear that 274 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: giraffe can be very dangerous. Oh yeah, in the sense 275 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: of how do they defend themselves? Maybe if a lion 276 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: or two. 277 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: So they're known for the long legs, being able to 278 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: kick and swing, so if there is a predator around, 279 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 5: they could easily lift a leg, swing a leg, things 280 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: like that at something that's down on the ground. Lions 281 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 5: are their main predators, so they're trying to kick and 282 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 5: keep away lions from their babies, from themselves things like that. 283 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: And then even between each other, like if males are 284 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 5: fighting for females or things like that, they swing the 285 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: entire neck and head towards each other and it is dramatic. 286 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: It's wild. Get Rick's point to I think people forget. 287 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: Can you see the beautiful brown eyes, right, they seem 288 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: to be very just. But I like to rely on people. Man, 289 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: I do not want to cross the giraffe. Right, Like 290 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: you said, the kick in the giraffe can break the 291 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: jaw a lion, right, and we were talking before filming. 292 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: There's pointing things on top of the skull. Can you 293 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: talk about those really? 294 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 5: What is jessicone is actually a part of the skull, 295 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: so unlike an antler that sheds and things like that, 296 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: it's a part of their skull. 297 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: And they use it. 298 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: In the idea of defending themselves when they're throwing their necks. 299 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: And things like, they're not shetting it. 300 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: It stays, it stays there. 301 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: Do males and females both have it? 302 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: They both have both have it. 303 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the males, right, we had we. 304 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: Had a male here. Sometimes they have extra calcium bumps, yes, 305 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: the thick in that school. So when they neck or 306 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: swing their heads at each other. 307 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: For ye petition females, it's kind of like a very graceful, 308 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: smooth oscone. They're littler, they're still very much so there. 309 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 5: But our males they kind of like have a big 310 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: bumpier look all along the top of their head and 311 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 5: their oscacnes, and it's adding to the volume of being 312 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 5: able to swing at each other and be the more 313 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 5: assertive male. 314 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Am I mistaken? There's also like thicker skin in the 315 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: tor so. 316 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 5: I think yeah, because if you think about lowering ahead 317 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 5: and swinging out another individual, that's where they're aiming. 318 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: Can you describe it a little more like step by 319 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: step so the kids can visualize what's going on surround 320 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: this are getty. Oh, I see a female giraffe out there. Oh, 321 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: maybe she is, you know, looking for some action. Maybe 322 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: I don't know this one, so I want to know, like, 323 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: is it a male giraffe with a big territory or 324 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: everyone's just cruising around and opportunistically the more dominant one. 325 00:11:59,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: How does that? 326 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as I know, it's more of like 327 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 5: a male has a group situation and there's a more 328 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 5: dominant male. You can have younger males, but males tend 329 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 5: to go off on their own once they reach sexual maturity. 330 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: So you have a male who's kind of like, these 331 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: are my ladies, these are my girls, So he needs 332 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 5: to keep other males off of those if he wants 333 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 5: to be able to continue his genetic. 334 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Right, it's a friend. 335 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: I just now I see that one other male. Oh, 336 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: he's looking at his ladies. He's coming over, So what's 337 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: going to happen? 338 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 339 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely, It's called posturing when males kind of go up 340 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: and they're like, all right. 341 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: The beach or something. 342 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Guys posturing, But. 343 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: Everyone postures, and that's something I talk to kids about. 344 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: You know. The animals communicate in so many different ways. 345 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: It's not just a scent marking, you know, or a sound. 346 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: It's visual too. So okay, I got ahead of myself. 347 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: So they're posturing right now. 348 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: They're posturing, and it's kind of like the decision of 349 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: who's going to make the first move, and you can 350 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 5: have the other male back off and be like, just kidding, 351 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 5: I'm not going to risk anything. 352 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: My bad. 353 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna look okay, but this is the scenario. 354 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: They're the same height. 355 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Right, so now the costering didn't work. 356 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: It's kind of like they don't really up to each other. 357 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: It's more of like a saunter. They saunter up to 358 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: each other, and then all of a sudden, you just 359 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: see one of them essentially roll their neck down this 360 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: very long, multiple foot long neck and just slam into 361 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 5: the other one and you can hear it, you can 362 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: hear the noise, and then it's just constantly necking each other. 363 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: One tires out, one ends up a little bit injured, 364 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: like anything like that. 365 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: Someone hard someone. 366 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, someone decides to give up, and it can be quick, 367 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: it can be forever. 368 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: It's definitely up to those males. 369 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: So theoretically, if it's like the new guy in town, 370 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: any of the eagle song just went on the new 371 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: kid in town anyway. Anyway, the new guy that came 372 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: into prison to try to push off the male, the 373 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: existing male, he won. 374 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: So now if the older male, the original male, takes. 375 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: Off licks his wounds, he's yeah. 376 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: But it points out to genetic diversity. 377 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: Right, So this guy had certain physical characteristics, stronger, maybe 378 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: he was eating better. 379 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many different things that could. 380 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: Cory, right, and now he gets a mate with the 381 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: female pretty much. 382 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, going back to the necking and fighting of 383 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: them males too. I want people to know I did 384 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: not work with giraffe at all my career, but I 385 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: started getting closer and closer to them as an ambassador 386 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: and working with all of our different teams out here, 387 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: And the first time I had a giraffe actually come 388 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: and have its head very close to me, I was 389 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: a bit taken aback at how huge and massive the 390 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: skull of these animals. And so when we talk about 391 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: them at the end of a six foot long neck, 392 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: this ginormous head slapping against the body of another one. 393 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: Even at a distance, it may not look like much, 394 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: but if you really think about the weight that is 395 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: behind that and then the swinging and the velocity that 396 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: is a solid, hard hit. I'm not just like us 397 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: bunking heads jokingly, or even like goats hitting heads. This 398 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: is a lot more going on there with force and 399 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: the power of it all. So it seems almost like, oh, 400 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: they're just like knocking around a little bit, no big deal, 401 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: But this could actually cause serious injury. 402 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: Some tend to do it. 403 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: Our females will once in a while do it when 404 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 5: they're like, hand, get off my food. 405 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 4: Can't use no. 406 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: As aggressively for lack of better words. But when two 407 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 5: males they have one thing in mind and one of 408 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: them is. 409 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Going to win in one of them, my brain starts 410 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: thinking about like back to the communication thing, right that 411 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: overall most animals, most you know, we'll try to avoid 412 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: a physical interaction because to that male that just got 413 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: his butt beat by the other male exactly, you know, 414 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: you have to color it up a little bit. But 415 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, what if you cut and what if now 416 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: it's infected, and now maybe he doesn't survive. 417 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: So there's all these other aspects that they have to 418 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: worry about. 419 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: So it's not the first thing they do, but the 420 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: postering and know the things that they'll try. 421 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, most animals are going to always try and take 422 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: the least effective route. They don't want to be hurt 423 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: because if you're hurt in the wild, there aren't like 424 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: us where we see an animal and we're like, okay, 425 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: we now have to deal with it. 426 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: We have to treat it right. We're going to make 427 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: sure you're okay out in the wild. There isn't that. 428 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And actually it's speaking to that because I wanted 429 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: to ask, you know, what's it like working on an 430 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: animal that can give you a pretty gnarly kick. But 431 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: you know we were talking earlier that you're building up 432 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: trust and you're doing training process. 433 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to ask how smart you know people 434 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: always ask we who's as smart as a dog or 435 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: house smartest? Oh yeah, there's mark, Yeah, training you guys. 436 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: So there's some intelligence there, right. 437 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: There is some intelligence. 438 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: Sometimes you look at them and you're like, are you 439 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: looking at anything? They're sing things, it's windy and they run. 440 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: You're like, what do you what do you do? But no, 441 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 5: most of these animals were around twenty four to seven. 442 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: We're here when they wake up, we're here when we 443 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 5: go to bed. We're seeing birds, we're seeing deaths, we're 444 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: seeing all the things. So we're here for their whole lives. 445 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: So we're building these relationships with these animals and that's 446 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: allowed us to build up situations where they don't have 447 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 5: a fear of us. 448 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: But it's a respect between everyone for sure. 449 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: As you're saying that there's one approaching us close, but 450 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: it does speak to what you're talking about. You're building 451 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: up this relationship and not in a domestic dog kind 452 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: of way or a domestic kind of way. We're establishing communication. 453 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: It's and fancy operating conditioning techniques. 454 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Right. 455 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: It can be positive negative punishment, which you don't really 456 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: do too much of it here, and more of the 457 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: positive reinforcement. There's also a negative reinforcement, but these are 458 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: all tools that we can utilize, but with positive reinforcement. 459 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: I'm a big behavior nerd, but I love that you 460 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: have an area behind this here that you focus a 461 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: little bit of your training. 462 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: That you do with these animals. 463 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, We tend to train in specific areas, mainly because, 464 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 5: as I mentioned before, there's multiple different species in here, 465 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: and rhinos are like, I want to train two, so 466 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: we don't want all of everyone involved at the same time, 467 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 5: so we'll train them generally at more specific times during 468 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 5: the day. So like rhinos know, they get trained in 469 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 5: the morning and draft get trained in the afternoon. So 470 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: it's kind of being able to regulate a multi species exhibit. 471 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm just going to say a lot that schedule because 472 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: some people don't think about that. You know, maybe the 473 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: different habitats. You have one species, maybe two habitat that 474 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: you're facilitating, you're managing, But here you have what you said, 475 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: over ten different species. They have to navigate absolutely, so 476 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, what are someone like, 477 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: give me your top two or top three behaviors that 478 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: you focus on with this kind of animal. 479 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: What do you got to do? 480 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: So we want all of our animals to recognize their names. 481 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: All of our animals have names, and so name recognition 482 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: is a big one, especially if you're trying to draw 483 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: someone over to, for example, look at their hoofs or 484 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: other things like that. 485 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, name recognition who's the one messing with the 486 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: manda right. 487 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 4: Now, Kanie checking it out. 488 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: You know. 489 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: But again this speaks to the relationship that you guess, 490 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: this is not something that happened with a giraffe. 491 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 5: No, it's a level of trust, like we respect of 492 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 5: their wild animals. They're huge, like they're saying, like, they 493 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 5: have adaptations to protect themselves, and we know their limits, 494 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: they know our limits, and it's very much just like 495 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 5: a give and take relationship, right yeah, And so they 496 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 5: allow us essentially to interact with them all the time. 497 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: We've worked with a lot of Name recognition for these 498 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: guys was number one, Like if you're gonna have a 499 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 5: little baby. 500 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: Giraffe, it should know its name, right. 501 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: So then we also want to you know, as I 502 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 5: was talking about, they have hoofs, they have the two toes, 503 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: and you want to maintain those in the wild. They're 504 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: walking so often all the time over different types of terrain, 505 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 5: and we try to keep that as variable as possible 506 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: out here, but we're still going to have to maintain it. 507 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: It wants to. 508 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 4: Check out the camera. 509 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: Apparently she's a fan of Sony, But you know, as 510 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 3: you're speaking, I'm looking at the hoofs, and you're absolutely right. Now, 511 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, like, would I want to like 512 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 3: kneel down and like get down there and work on 513 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: a hoof? 514 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: What's that like? 515 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 5: Don't So we have to work with them for the 516 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 5: fact that their comfort level is what we base everything 517 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: off of. So we always have some sort of form 518 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 5: of protection. I'm not just jumping off the truck here 519 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 5: at all. It's our safety and their safety all along. 520 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 5: They are a mega vertebrate, So we have this area 521 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 5: back here, and we do set up other different pieces 522 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 5: of woods that we are protected at all times. Right, 523 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 5: And it's very much still reading the animal. You're never 524 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 5: doing anything alone. If someone says she looks uncomfortable, we're 525 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: all backing up and we're resetting. 526 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: Things like that. 527 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 528 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all on the animal's idea of what they 529 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 5: want to do that day. 530 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm even something as simple like right now Yamakanie 531 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: was her name, as simple as her even like she's 532 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: turning right now, turning, you would have to be aware 533 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 3: because it's such a big animal. 534 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: I don't think she'd know that she'd knock you over right. 535 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Oh No, So you're really just having a navigate this 536 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: really unique. 537 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: Space with them. 538 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned their big eyes. 539 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 5: And if you see, like those big eyes, see a 540 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 5: lot in front of them and to the side of them, 541 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 5: but they can't see behind them, so they have like 542 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 5: a certain amount of visions, so they're swinging their head 543 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 5: to see what. 544 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: Is a over here for example. 545 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: You're up, so I've been right now. Anybody listening When 546 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: these videos finally do go on to YouTube, we have 547 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: to watch this episode. Yama Connie is right here in 548 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: front of us now. 549 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: And you guys a part of We're gonna hint at 550 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: it right your social media handle on Instagram, zoology right. 551 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: As well. Yeah, this is a uniqueness, right, This is 552 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: the joy. 553 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: Of our podcast is we get to actually be mobile, 554 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: We get to come out into these spaces. Can't thank 555 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: you enough for just I you know, we nort really 556 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: think at the end of but I want to thank 557 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: you now because that's a unique experience for us. Yama 558 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: Connie be right here and we just kind of check 559 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: us out and move on. Unique experience for our audience 560 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: who gets to watch this later as well. So you 561 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: guys were talking about all we're talking about the eye. 562 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so they get the long old eyes. 563 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so like being the watch hower of the span, 564 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 5: and they have great ability to see far and wide, 565 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 5: not just being over everything, but they just have this 566 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 5: awareness with them. So because of that, they can't see 567 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 5: behind them. So they always kind of. 568 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: Rely on being in this tower situation. 569 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 5: So for example, when they have babies, they need to 570 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 5: go out, they need to get all of the forage 571 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: and things like that. 572 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 4: They still need to. 573 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: Maintain their abilities, so they have different moms watch over kids. 574 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 5: We call them aunties really, so they have this exactly, 575 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: so it's like take care essentially. 576 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: I love. 577 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know they did that. 578 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 5: The little babies can't keep up with mom all the time, 579 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 5: so they'll have one or two moms kind of watch 580 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: everybody while the others go out and find all the 581 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: food things like that, and then they'll switch off. 582 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 4: So that's really cool. We've seen it in here. 583 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: Actually it's beneficial, right, I mean, you guys are out 584 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: there so many predators out there when you have babies. 585 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. I remember when we did our 586 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: market episode the beginning of this season. Well, the use 587 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: social stuff, but I was thinking about the pups will 588 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: stay in the den while mom goes food, and the 589 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: aunties will hang out and take care of the kids 590 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: while she goes to It's kind of the same idea, 591 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: absolutely differently in the sense that they're not in a burrow, 592 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: but it's that whole concept of community and the group's 593 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: taking care of each other and taking care of the young, 594 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: even if it's not there young. Because there's that community, 595 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: that safety in numbers the well being for everybody. 596 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: That's right, cool. I know, I love that. 597 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: I mean I love having like the right that's really 598 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: that lot side question a budget, swim them up, excuse 599 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: me for that. 600 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: That's some of the nuances that happens in the wild everyone. 601 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: But earlier you a Connie came over and she was 602 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: licking a little bit of the truck. But I wanted 603 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: to ask you about the spit the mucus saliva. 604 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: It's a unique trait about it. Can you speak a 605 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: little bit about that for me? 606 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 5: So something that they eat in the wild is generally 607 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: thorny acasha, So it's a type of tree and they 608 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 5: use that very long tongue that manipulates different things to 609 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 5: pull off the leaves and things like that. So the 610 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: saliva keeps everything kind of liquid, so they're not exactly 611 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: poking and hurting themselves when eating thorns. 612 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. 613 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: And the tongue too. It's block for a specific reason too, right. 614 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you what that reason is actually. 615 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Know I was. I was trying to lead you everything. 616 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: But I heard from the last episode with Charlie Hide 617 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: its black for like some block it was really two 618 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: years ago. 619 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was twenty twenty three. 620 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Man, I had bad time reference, you know, it was 621 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: just yesterday. 622 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: But again, like they're eating during daytime hours, right, which 623 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: leads me to the question they're generally not forging a 624 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: lot of nighttime hours or they are. 625 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 5: You thinking Knight's just a bit dangerous out ya? Absolutely, 626 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: and they do. People are like, do they lay down? 627 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: And they do. It takes a lot of effort for 628 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 4: them to get down there. 629 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they are able to kind of fold their 630 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: legs underneath them and just lay there. And they look 631 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 5: really tall with just their neck kind of coming out 632 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 5: of the ground. But they are able to lay down. 633 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: But it's more of a situation where someone's always up 634 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 5: and watching. 635 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kidding, and I was reading it. 636 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: They don't do like I'm more of a ten hour 637 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: sleep or sometimes they wouldn't be doing. 638 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: That, right, you can't do that out there. 639 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: It's almost like I call it like the President's sleep. 640 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: You know, I read somewhere like he'll sleep at twenty minutes, 641 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: a little mass naps. But do they do like quick 642 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: little nappies. 643 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 5: Or they do yeah, short amounts, especially the older they get. 644 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: For example, babies need a ton of sleep. They're exhausted 645 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: for running around being crazy all the time. They're growing 646 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 5: exactly minor details they have to get big. So usually 647 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 5: it's twenty minutes to the time, one to two hours, 648 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 5: never a long amount of time. 649 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: On the ground. 650 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually thinking about babies, I don't know if you 651 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: can speak to this, but like i'd read where giving birth, 652 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 3: you know, it is a six foot tall baby, but 653 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: it's a big drop. 654 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: Mask baby right into the world, right. 655 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: But it kind of makes you know those movies like 656 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: you know, when they're giving birth, and I don't know 657 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: if they do this were in reality, but you know, 658 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: the doctor slaps the babies, the human baby, but the 659 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: baby there's I had read somewhere like is it kind 660 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: of a giraffe version of that? You know that the 661 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: drop actually helps stimulate the baby. Woke it up because 662 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: they got to get up really really fast. 663 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, in the wild with predators, they need to get 664 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: up as quickly as possible. 665 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 666 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 2: I've read somewhere it's like within thirty to forty minutes. Yeah, yes, 667 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: and starting to follow mom. 668 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that like drag your dad? Can you 669 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: imagine your kid that's over run? 670 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: Wow? So wild they're wobbly on their legs. 671 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking. 672 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: We've had baby giraffes here at the Safari parking in 673 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: the San Diego Zoo too, right, part of that managed 674 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: care for these species, I mean, unfortunately, you know, they're 675 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: not doing so good out there in the wild for 676 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 3: the habitat fragmentation, A big one is actually wildlife trafficking, 677 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: you know, drive down here. Was trying to think, how 678 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: do we tell kids. I don't know what you think 679 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: or you think, Rick, but what do we tell kids? 680 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: How can they help a giraffe out? Basically, like my 681 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: main one is just go support your local zoo and 682 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: aquarium that's accredited and they're doing good work out there 683 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: helping out manage populations, genetic diversity, right. 684 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: Certainly well and then to your point. As the Santegazoo 685 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: Wildlife Alliance. As an alliance, we have allies all over 686 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: the world and we have several groups we work with 687 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: in Kenya that also then do work around Africa for 688 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: the giraffe population. So that's the beauty of supporting your 689 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: local zoo is like when you support the Wildlife Alliance, 690 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: you're supporting that bigger picture of the conservation work that 691 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: we do. And that's what I always enjoy about hearing 692 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: people falling in love with giraffe here at the Sane Fipark. 693 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: Is that then that it's like, what can I do 694 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: to help can and well, you know, just be in 695 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: here helps, but you can do more. There's a lot 696 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: of things you can go online and help out with. 697 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: We used to and I'm not sure if it still exists, 698 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: but we used to have a twigger group we were 699 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: part of where there's the camera trap footage where you 700 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: can go through and actually identify the different giraffe and 701 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: the shots and all that sort of thing. You go 702 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: online and do it as a volunteer. So there's a 703 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: lot of ways progress exactly. There's a lot of way 704 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 2: people can get involved, and I think it's a wonderful thing. 705 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: You know. 706 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: Another one for me, you guys, is actually traveling honestly, 707 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, because I know that's an issue for girafts, 708 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: you know, parts of their body for different reasons. 709 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Maybe they think it's a religious ceremonial purpose. 710 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: But what I tell people, like when you travel, so 711 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: you're going down to Africa, like maybe don't buy that 712 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: weird thing that looks like or. 713 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: Possibly even a seed or a feather of a bird. 714 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: You don't know what's happening to that wildlife when they're 715 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: trying to procure those items. So I just tell people 716 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: when they travel, just you know, put your money to 717 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: good purposes and taking good. 718 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: Seriously. 719 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and as you're talking, look it behind us right 720 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: now visually they can't. 721 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: Are you getting in it? 722 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: Like I got a wildlife Safari vehicle if you're not familiar. 723 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: For those listening, this is my favorite tour or experience 724 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: we have at the Safari Park. 725 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: It's almost like doing your job and not really doing 726 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: your job. Get used dirty. Just give me the look again. 727 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to get the side. 728 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: But literally they can go on the back of a 729 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: Safari truck and they can go into these large habitats. 730 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: This is the one makes a Safari Park. No, no 731 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: shade to the zoo. I love you the zoo, but 732 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: the Safari Park is saying a situation that you can 733 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: actually go into the habitat of these animals, multi species 734 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: over ten that you said, and our guests can experiences. 735 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Hi. Guess, Hi, good to see it. 736 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: We're just doing a recording of a podcast, you know. 737 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: That's a yeah, we're literally recording right now. Good to 738 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: see But rates in fact that you guess I've known 739 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: here since I was a teenager here, and that's the 740 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: other thing. 741 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: I know. 742 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: We're talking heavy on the giraffes and conservation, but tell me, like, 743 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: for you, being a human here working here, what is 744 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 3: it about this place that makes it so special for you? 745 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: I know I can speak forever. 746 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 4: I mean, for me, it was a lifelong goal to 747 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 4: end up at the zoo or the Safari Park. 748 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: How was it to come here? Yes? How did that happen? 749 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Like you're a kid, Like I was a little. 750 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: Kid and I was at the zoo and I was like, 751 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: this is where I want to be and I ended 752 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: up at the Safari Park and it's like stepping into Africa. 753 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: Every single day. Really, it's amazing. 754 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: Everyone has a different origin story because kids are always 755 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: asking me how to become a wildlife here specialist. Can 756 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 3: you share a little about your story, Like was it college? 757 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: Was it just firsthand experience? 758 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: What was it? 759 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 760 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 5: I was kind of both, So I do have multiple 761 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 5: degrees and environmental science and wildlife conservation biology, but it's 762 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 5: also having the experience. 763 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: As Dan mcconnie's alteration. 764 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: Camera, Bet, who's going to get that? You're right though? 765 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 3: That is like, is the word viscus? It's thick, I mean. 766 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: Robbery. 767 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: My parents had a bloodhound before. That is definitely thicker 768 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: and then blood. I gotta say, but you're right though. 769 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, can you say your degrees one more time? 770 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: Because kids are always wondering. 771 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 5: Absolutely wildlife conservation biology and environmental science, and I know 772 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 5: multiple people here have psychology, zoology, really anything that kind 773 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: of gives you an idea of how animals work. 774 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: And for me, it was a lot of experience as well. 775 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 5: I did a lot of wildlife rehab work, large carnivore sanctuaries, 776 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: all the big Like. 777 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: For me, it's three things, you guys, it's academic, right, 778 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: it's experience, but it's also networking. 779 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: People can get the networking thing. 780 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: And I'm not dissuading going to college suit, but I 781 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: also want to point out for other kids and maybe 782 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: college isn't the right path for them. 783 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Like I grew up here, I learned everything. 784 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: Like Charlie hyde per degree was graphic design. 785 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: She works with giraffes. So the kids, the adults listening. 786 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: Every path is different, you know, but it does help 787 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: you out if you can stack the deck because this 788 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: is a it's a pretty popular place to work, right 789 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: you know it is. 790 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's really about the people. I think that 791 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: makes this place so unique. How's your team? Is it you? 792 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: And one of the person is it you? And like 793 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: ten twenty what's your day staff? What's that like? 794 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: Usually we have about eight to ten people here for 795 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: this run. Specifically, we cover a few different areas. 796 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean like this describes the area. 797 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 5: Yes, so we have a few different areas that this 798 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 5: team itself covers, okay, and then there's multiple teams throughout 799 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: the park. 800 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: It's a big space bots of animals. 801 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: Like for instance, right now we're in East Africa, but 802 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: in South Africa area we have massige giraffe, right so 803 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: is it like giraffe specialists or do you separate, like 804 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: what's your area? 805 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Do you do both areas? 806 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: It generally is separate just by the area. 807 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 5: So we have a different team that covers the Masside 808 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: giraffe right now, and sometimes we can have some crossover 809 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 5: and things like that, but right now I'm and my 810 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: team are all in this East Africa habitat and the 811 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: two other habitats we cover as well. 812 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, every morning is a little different. Give me 813 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: your first hour in the day. What are you doing? 814 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: So we all meet in the morning to touch base 815 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: on all of the animals. 816 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: Early, right, like you're waking What is it six o'clock starting. 817 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: We clock in at six? 818 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, six o'clock. Everyone just pointed out. 819 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: Which right now it's light out at six, but in 820 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: the winter it is not. 821 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, that speaks to that. 822 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: And it's not an office, right, So if it's like 823 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: maybe thirty eight degrees, because you can't get cold out 824 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: here in the sample squad valley where we're at, you know, yeah, 825 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: you're bumbling up. I'm go I know this guy you 826 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: know from the up. 827 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: Northernland door down here for twenty plus years. 828 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm chilly right now. You guys, it's like seventy five below. 829 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm cold, but to that your rain, shine, frost, It 830 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: don't matter. You're out here six o'clock. You get together 831 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: with your team, you said. 832 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: We get together with a team. We touch base. 833 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 5: We all kind of go on different areas during the day, 834 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 5: and some days you'll be in this area with our 835 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: draft and the other ten species in here. We take 836 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: care of another area that focuses on asiatic species. Oh yeah, 837 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 5: that's adjacent to this area, right, Yeah, so there's people 838 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 5: doing that run as well. 839 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: We eventually have to clean up all the poop these 840 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: animals make. 841 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: Oh that is I'm looking right now and maybe maybe 842 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: I see a little bit here and there, but being 843 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: so cast instead coming across. What's that like? I mean, 844 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: is that an everyday thing or. 845 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: Generally as much as we can, Yeah, I mean they 846 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: all kind of go a couple of times a day, 847 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: so it's hard to maintaine, you know, it's really do Yeah. 848 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: Actually, you're right, it is, hey, right, But I like 849 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: the dynamics of poop too. You learn a lot from it. 850 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: You know why they're doing it, why they're doing at 851 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: the consistency, and I know just from experience. But the 852 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: giraffe droppings are different than like the larger ones here 853 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: that you're seeing, right, can you describe what a giraft dropping. 854 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, giraft poop is generally appellated, so it's about I 855 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 5: don't like comparing it to candy, but most people do 856 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 5: a little. 857 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Bit a whopper. Kids do not put giraffe in your mouth. 858 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: Similar shape, but I would imagine and correct me if 859 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, But I would imagine because it's such a 860 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: dry area and ecosystem, they are trying to get as 861 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: much moisture as it can out of. 862 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Their food, right, So that's why it's so small and other. 863 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: Small impelletted and we can tell a lot from their 864 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: health based on what they do, excrete for any of 865 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 5: our species out here. So we tend to keep a 866 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: very close eye on it, whether it's as they're going 867 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 5: or cleaning up things like that, Like it's an important 868 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: part of what of animal Careah. 869 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: I would get to use the lot as I would 870 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: break up poop and look at it because I'm also 871 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: curious what's going on. 872 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can learn a lot from that, you know, true? Yeah? Wow? 873 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: All right, So bringing it back to draft, we wrap up. 874 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: We do need to going soon, Okay, I want to 875 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: bring back to drafts. Last question for you, what is 876 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: your favorite adaptation or fact about the giraffe or the 877 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: one thing that you're like, oh, that's just so cool, 878 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 2: oh god, And if you have multiple, they just pick one, 879 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: pick one. 880 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: That's so challenging. 881 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: I mean for me, it's interesting because their spots help 882 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 5: with keeping them cool in the hot sun. So for example, 883 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 5: they have thicker blood vessels that go around their spots, 884 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: which we talked about earlier. 885 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: Their spots are. 886 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 5: All unique to them because we have Thompson Gizalz running 887 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 5: around behind us, and they have the thicker blood vessels 888 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: around the outside of the spot, and then the inside 889 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: of the spot has kind of like veiny thinner ones, 890 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 5: and they're able to control how much blood goes around 891 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 5: to the spots to be able to cool off. 892 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: It's a darker color, right, yeah, it absorbs a sun 893 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: warm up or vice versa. It's really hot, you want 894 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: more blood flow in the lighter parts of the press. 895 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: I actually did not know that exactly. 896 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 4: Awesome, Yeah, I can see you there. 897 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, then, on that note, thank you so very much 898 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: for your time for allowing us to come sit in 899 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: your office and hang out with your co workers. Really 900 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: appreciate your time. 901 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, I appreciate you. 902 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: Think thanks for having me. 903 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: I learned a lot, right, that was really cool? 904 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: Well I will say not only learned a lot, but 905 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: learn something new. Oh ye, perfect way to end that. 906 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: That's what I love this job of ours, right, and 907 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: then we're always students for life. It was a tell people, 908 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: I never trust someone that says you know everything, something 909 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: like never worlds along a stage draft and now guess 910 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: can know? Come visit us with the Safari party, right 911 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: or the zoo help out and draft conservation. Even just 912 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: getting excited and learning about your. 913 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: Rafts I think will help out. 914 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: Right. And if you're listening to this episode after June 915 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: twenty first, yeah, well mark your calendar for next year, 916 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: you'll know to celebrate World Draft Day. 917 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: Ohtally, Yeah, that's awesome. And what are we going to 918 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: do next time? 919 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, about three episodes in a row here at the 920 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 2: parkast time, go to the zoo market. 921 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: I don't want no angry letters everyone. 922 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: I like the zoo. I love the zoo. But why 923 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: are we going to the zoo? 924 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: Then? Well, the next episode after this comes out in 925 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: early July, which we were getting very close to the 926 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: anniversary when the pandas came back to the zoo, so 927 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: I thought, maybe it's time to go check in and 928 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: see how they're doing it for the first year. 929 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: All right, get some bunch of nuts and with some pandas, 930 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: there you go. Excellent, excellent, Well with that, Marco Witt. 931 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: And I'm Rick Schwartz. Thanks for watching and listening. 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