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Speaker 2: You look at the guys, they probably got three guys

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be a lottery pick. We know Boos is

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Speaker 2: probably gonna be a top three pick, Joe and he's

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Speaker 2: probably gonna be College Player of the Year. But when

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Speaker 2: you look at the talent that they've had, they've underachieved.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what, I don't care, I don't care

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Speaker 2: anything about this. And they're young. And that's what we

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Speaker 2: talk We talked about this. You caught of the veteran

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Speaker 2: ball club Michigan have veteran players Illinois.

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Speaker 3: It's not an accident.

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Speaker 2: Because when the rubber need to meet the road, you

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Speaker 2: gotta have somebody to be calm, cool and collected.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, right, man, absolutely, And you see there's no way.

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Speaker 2: And it seemed like when when Yukon started to make

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Speaker 2: some shots and started to make that run, it seemed

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Speaker 2: like dude got tired and tighter. Man, he got tired

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Speaker 2: and title, and he got tired and tighter. And when

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Speaker 2: old boy hit that a one and the two were

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Speaker 2: like two minutes to go. Now we got a ball game.

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna see, we're gonna see if those shots

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Speaker 2: that you will make it. When you was up ten, twelve, fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if they go in. Now, let's see if

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Speaker 2: you still have the same conviction to shoot them when

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Speaker 2: you was up double figures. Now you're only up two.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if you'll pull, ay, Joe. Let's see if

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Speaker 2: you'll pull from twenty two. Now, let's see if you

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Speaker 2: try to snatch it when you're from sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Now, Hey, a A, you're absolutely right when you look

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Speaker 4: at it. You can't playing with juniors at the point

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Speaker 4: guard at the one and two, and dude got a

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Speaker 4: freshman out there who ain't never been in that environment. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: been in that situation. I don't want to say he

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Speaker 4: ain't been in an environment because he's been playing with

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Speaker 4: his twin brother and we know they've been under the

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Speaker 4: microscope for quite some time. But the significance of this

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Speaker 4: game to have that turnover and it leads it.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Bro, sometime you just hold on to the ball, Joe,

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Speaker 4: Hey, I know you got two dudes wide open, but

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Speaker 4: let them fire. You me, you're gonna shoot them free throw.

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Speaker 4: That's the one thing you don't want to do is

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Speaker 4: turn that ball over over.

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Speaker 3: And that's the way really you can get beat Bro.

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Speaker 4: You can't even you can't even sleep at night behind

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Speaker 4: something like this.

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Speaker 3: Now keep it one hundred. You can't.

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Speaker 4: But but uncle Ocho, I was just telling y'all the

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Speaker 4: other day about Evans. This is why I was skeptical.

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Speaker 4: He can't have a hell of a game like he

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Speaker 4: had the other day and then turn around and give

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Speaker 4: us seven points. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Like

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Speaker 4: they need him. They needed him to at least give

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Speaker 4: you fifteen to sixteen. Bro, Like Boo's gonna beat Booths

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Speaker 4: like you could tell, hey, he like say, he gonna

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Speaker 4: be a top three pick, but he gonna have to

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Speaker 4: have somebody come along for the ride. You know, you

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Speaker 4: you got a guy that play seventeen minutes, got a

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Speaker 4: don that he didn't even take a shot.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's just that he got that.

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Speaker 2: Just he got card he got great Cardio. He got

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Speaker 2: seventeen minutes. What the Cardio hit?

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Speaker 3: That ain't enough?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Like I know, I know they played well.

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Speaker 4: They played well enough to win shot shot fifty two

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Speaker 4: percent from the field, forty from the three, and you

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Speaker 4: come and didn't play great.

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Speaker 3: They played great when it mattered. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: When they need it when they needed it. They came through.

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Speaker 4: Bro that that that that veteran presence that they have

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Speaker 2: It prevailed at the end, Man and mulleins Bro that

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Speaker 2: Joe shoot all the threes. He was coming off pigs

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Speaker 2: and was wide open. I was like, Bro, I say,

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Speaker 2: I say, Hurley, if you call one more pin down

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Speaker 2: and let this dude come up this pick and shooter

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Speaker 2: caravan yeah, yea.

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Speaker 3: God dang.

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Speaker 2: Now you don't know how to shoot caravan. You've been

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Speaker 2: And now you're getting this game. You can't make one. Mother,

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Speaker 2: You keep coming off a pick after pick after.

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Speaker 5: Pick, and aaron ball and.

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Speaker 2: Breath and then from thirty five foot he pulled and

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Speaker 5: Hey shoot shoot Joe.

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Speaker 6: Ain't there what they say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shooter, shooter, Hey shooters keep on shooting.

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Speaker 4: They ain Look they ain't really have but like two,

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Speaker 4: they had one guy who played pretty good read and

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Speaker 4: Smith replayed out this damn my yeah yeah yeah. By

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Speaker 4: outside of that, oh show, then nobody else, I mean

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Speaker 4: Smith off the bench. Eighteen minutes nine points, four for seven.

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Speaker 4: But for the most part, man, this was it got

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Speaker 4: it got to be an ugly game.

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Speaker 3: But Duke Duke kicking himself with all them damn turnover. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't keep turning. You can't keep turning the ball

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Speaker 2: over like that. And I felt like, Okay, what concerned

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Speaker 2: me was Duke on the glass. But it wasn't that

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Speaker 2: big of a discrepancy. Yeah, thirty four to twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: You know, normally Duke is a plus ten plus fifty

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Speaker 2: that what's what's the other big guy named another big guy?

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Speaker 2: He might have got hurt, but nah, but this shop,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. You're never gonna be able to

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Speaker 2: look And I hate it. I hate when it's happened

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Speaker 2: to young kids. We see it happen to professionals, and

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Speaker 2: we you know, we talked about the Billy Buckner situation

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Speaker 2: when he played with played the Mets and they all

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Speaker 2: went through his leg at first base. Jackie Smith went

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Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame, but he's known for off

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Speaker 2: of the touchdown that would have beat the Steelers for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, things like that. Linger for because they're gonna

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Speaker 2: they're gonna play this old Joe. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: why Boo just didn't hold on to make it come

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Speaker 2: fil you.

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Speaker 3: He had two guys ahead of him.

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Speaker 4: That was wise, but I know he was trying to

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Speaker 4: get off the ball so they couldn't find them.

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Speaker 3: They get something easy. But Bro, that little.

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Speaker 4: Tip, that that deflection that they got, that was the

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Speaker 4: deflection of the season. Bro eight, he was out of them.

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Speaker 4: Hey hey, if hey, Joe, if he do this, I'm over.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I just sometimes sometimes it's instead of throwing it, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Ohoe, instead of maybe he drop it,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just gonna slide down and let

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Speaker 2: the clock keep moving because the clock is my friend.

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Speaker 2: The clock is not my enemy, my friend. Going out

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Speaker 2: of bounds is the enemy. Turning the ball over is

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Speaker 2: the enemy. Yeah, that's all. Look, and I understand it

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Speaker 2: took up, Bro. It took a shot from God.

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Speaker 3: Come on, an he took it. I mean, Joe, I mean,

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Speaker 3: come on, it took That's what it took. Bro hit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Bro had missed every three he taken. He

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Speaker 2: took uh and then he banged that one.

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Speaker 6: The one that five that nothing but that at Joe.

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Speaker 6: He let his release was so goddamn quick when he

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Speaker 6: let that thing go to.

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Speaker 2: He had no choice because he deflected it and got

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Speaker 2: it to the other guy. And hey, he but you

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Speaker 2: know what, Joe, what it is is that trailer, Remember

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Speaker 2: the trailer in Villanova, North Carolina. The guy breaking up

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Speaker 2: the court, the guy that took it out of mind

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah. You see, Bullers was the trailer. He the

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Speaker 2: one that deflected it. He got it up to the court.

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Speaker 2: They come to get him, they kick it back to

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Speaker 2: him back.

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Speaker 3: They needed Mike Breen on the call. That had been

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Speaker 3: a triple bang bang bang bang, may have John Witherspool

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Speaker 3: rest is so bank bank bank.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I mean it's not that It's not like I

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Speaker 4: was sitting here rooting for Duke. But when he made

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Speaker 4: that shot, that hurt me. Bro Oh yeah yeah yeah, cukle,

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Speaker 4: What what happened? What transpired?

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Speaker 2: Look, if he didn't turn the ball over and the

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Speaker 2: guy made the shot, I'm okay with it. I'm okay

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Speaker 2: with it. That's an awful lot for a young man

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Speaker 2: to have to live with Joe. It is it is,

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Speaker 2: it is, it is.

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Speaker 4: Look, they got all these State Farm commercials. Now the

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Speaker 4: booze are twins. Yeah, hey, damn well that's a bad

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Speaker 4: way because you know they probably would have had more

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Speaker 4: come out. Oh if they would have made it to

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Speaker 4: the final four four. Oh they don't. Probably they don't.

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, they already shot the commercials already.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Look look my favorite one is Sammy L. Jackson and

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Speaker 4: Charles Barclay and Magic Johnson. Then oh yeah, the one.

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Speaker 2: Man that hurts hurt for I ain't hurt for Duke.

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Speaker 2: I ain't ben same here, Lines said, man, I feel

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Speaker 2: I do not feel bad for Luke. And I told y'all, hey,

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Speaker 2: a b d anybody but Duke. I don't give that.

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Speaker 1: Who win?

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Speaker 2: They not winning? And my home boy won't even call me.

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Speaker 2: I've been calling burn Joe. I've been calling him all day.

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Speaker 2: Are you calling, man?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Joe told him I'm in jail. Say this my one

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Speaker 2: TLL homeboy answer you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ain't answer. I called back.

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Speaker 2: I said, man, I got this burning phone, this dude,

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Speaker 2: this burning phone in jail.

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Speaker 3: I tried it.

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Speaker 2: Come from North Carolina, lost man. That Joe gonn blue

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Speaker 2: my phone up, so like I'm sleeping. So anytime our

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Speaker 2: team lose, we always pretend like we sleep. I'm like, hello,

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Speaker 2: come about hen you ain't sleep?

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah, yeah, what's what? What's going on? Hey?

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Speaker 6: What that bracket look like?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Oh? My bracket tour up?

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Speaker 6: Hey Joe?

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Speaker 5: What George looked like?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know who bracket. I know who brackets?

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Speaker 6: Still attack though.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, still attack. You just got Arizona

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Speaker 2: to win. He got Arizona. You want because you got

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Speaker 2: Arizona going to the final four. Hey, hey Ojoe, Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. O Joe, what you're doing putting that?

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Speaker 2: All he did was pig animals. All he did with animals.

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Speaker 6: Hey, king o Jo, respect me?

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Speaker 5: Respect me?

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't believe a boy did it like that. Man, he

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Speaker 2: came fall. I was in jail, had to get a

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Speaker 2: burner phone. He still will as a faul city. A

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Speaker 2: text asked, does everything okay? He still ain't hit you back?

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Speaker 2: He hit me back yet, he ain't.

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Speaker 3: Gonna take it.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna take him about two three days before he

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Speaker 4: gets back at you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he ain't calling me. He ain't calling me. No

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Speaker 2: You know what I hate? I man, I hate Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I will. I need them to cross. You want that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because both of them, both of them got some

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Speaker 3: We're good. We're good.

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Speaker 3: God? I was that mat? What's good?

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Speaker 1: Right? Florida? Boy? My dog. What's up? Boy? Man, I'm chilling.

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Speaker 3: Nah, but what everybody there talking about.

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Speaker 2: He's been telling us he dropped four He dropped like

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Speaker 2: I said, did you Drake? I said, did you drop

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Speaker 2: All right, man, let's get you some basketball. Look what

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Speaker 2: But I believe it's out of those five Luka, Jokic, Fga,

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Speaker 1: So obviously, I think all five of these guys can

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Speaker 2: When you when you when you look at this and

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Speaker 3: Who you think is in the finals.

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Speaker 2: Because I go back, I go back and forth, because

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Speaker 2: And then I look at the East. I still think

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Speaker 2: JT can have an off game and JB carry you.

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Speaker 1: Now you you absolutely right, man. You know some of

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Speaker 1: And with Jaylen Brown then, man, I just don't see

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Speaker 2: Because Peyton Washington is coming back at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go to Boston and OKC

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Speaker 2: Doug, Wow, No, san Antonio. You don't think san Antonio

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Speaker 2: is quite old enough yet? Because I love Wenby Stephen

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Speaker 2: He's a bucket. I don't care what it don't matter he.

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Speaker 3: Get in the game. He's gonna get.

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Speaker 1: my gosh, watch out. It be crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a Mac, I want to switch gears real quick. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Hold on, bro, I'm in the car.

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Speaker 6: I was, I was, I was stuck in a rush

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Speaker 1: You ain't no goddamn rush our traffic. Bro, How you

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Speaker 1: do me? Bro? You're supposed to be my boy. You're

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Speaker 6: You in the no, I'm no, I swear to God, team,

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Speaker 1: All right, follow yourself, I'm I'm at the house now.

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Speaker 1: But real quick.

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Speaker 6: Everyone has their own criteria. There's always dialogue, There's always

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Speaker 1: You only do two of them in there.

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Speaker 3: He got I think, I think got covid that in

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Speaker 6: What talk Talk to me nice man, Talk to me

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Speaker 6: know who you feel the best is ever?

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Speaker 1: We talk about were.

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Speaker 6: Talking about the goat now, So there's another goat, you

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Speaker 1: So so for me, it's it's sim J all day.

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Speaker 1: I grew up watching Mike and I just haven't seen

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Speaker 1: but it's all about the eye test and what this

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Speaker 1: It's MJ. And I think how you have to do it.

440
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: You gotta go by errors man, because you know it's

441
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: right right, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's

442
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: it's different style of basketball. It's different players like m

443
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: J A and se No Kobe MJ and s no

444
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: t Mac, MJ ain't see no Vince, you know, you know,

445
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: like I to disrespect those wing players, but let's be honest.

446
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: The two thousand wings, Bro, they wasn't the right, right,

447
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: they were deeper and the game changed. So and then

448
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: in Lebron's era, he ran that right, putting up crazy

449
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: stats the MVPs, but he asked some competition that was

450
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant and then later on his career got an

451
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: ask step Curry in there. Right. So it's so it's

452
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: errors to me, man, all these guys and ghosts, because

453
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: they all was freaking great. Bro.

454
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the figure is that.

455
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how you felt when you first saw

456
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, but I always tell the story.

457
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: He doesn't seem real to man, he leveled.

458
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean when I first laid eyes on this man,

459
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: I was in at the super Bowl. This man was

460
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: levitating and I'm looking at him and he probably thinking, man,

461
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: starting sharp, little brother, He's something wrong with him cause

462
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: he don't.

463
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 3: Need t MAC And my line, does he seem real?

464
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you this story. And I'm glad

465
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: you said that. And people really don't understand that aura.

466
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: It's a real thing, bro, for real. His aura's like

467
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: none others. So I was seventeen years I was seventeen

468
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: years old, and this is when I I announced that

469
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna uh go to the NBA. Chicago was

470
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: playing that Lennard Hawks. I go to the game, watch

471
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: the MJ and Pip and the Bulls do that thing.

472
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: That night. I go in the back after the game

473
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for these guys. I'm waiting by the

474
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls locker room because we got some passes and

475
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: my you know, the team that I was with had

476
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: the connections straight. MJ. Well Rodman walked out all right.

477
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: Oh cool, that's it's probably right there. Pip walks out

478
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: all right, bro, MJ walks out of that locker room.

479
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: My dude, Nah nah, It's like he was glowing. Bro.

480
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: He had like this are around him. That was This

481
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: is seventeen year old me watching this guy because this

482
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: is right NBC, this is the golden era of basketball.

483
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: That's how I got to watch him, right. It's see

484
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: him on on TV and what he was doing back

485
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: in the late eighties early nineties for me when I

486
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: started watching and to actually see this brother in person, nah,

487
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: he didn't seem real.

488
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: He still don't.

489
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: He'd I get the same I get the same feeling

490
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: when I see that man in person that I got

491
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: the very first time that I saw his ass in person.

492
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 2: Just levitate. I don't care for nobody to say this

493
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: man was levitating. He was not walking. He was levitating.

494
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: And I've seen a lot of lot of famous people

495
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: in the world in my time, but don't nobody has

496
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: the aura like Michael Jordan. Now maybe maybe Michael Jackson,

497
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: but I never saw Michael Jackson in person.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

499
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen Prince in person. I've seen a lot

500
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: of slebs in person. I've never seen anything like what

501
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: this man. The glow and the power, the energy, the

502
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: force that is around him. Man, you people, you go,

503
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: you got to be in his presence to understand a

504
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: team at But if you think about it, everybody that's

505
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: ever been around him, he's said the same thing. From

506
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: Shaq to Kevin gardnet to everybody said the exact same thing.

507
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't, Alon Ivers said the man he don't even

508
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: seem real.

509
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: Nah, he don't, man. And I was. I was actually

510
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: just with him at the Writer's Cup and it's hard

511
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: not to just stare at Mike. Bro that's Mike. That's

512
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: Mike right there. Food But nah, he And for me

513
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: when I first saw him, and then my first couple

514
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: of times playing against him, like, I still had that feeling.

515
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: But it's like I've been around Mike so many times,

516
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: I still you know, I have high regards the auras

517
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: kind of war off a little bit. It's still there

518
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: and that's still Mike. But man, when I was seventeen

519
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: years I ain't never seen anything like it.

520
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: Bro, It's amazing.

521
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been around a lot of famous people,

522
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of famous people. It ain't ain't nothing,

523
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: ain't nothing like this. Ain't nothing like this, dude right here, man,

524
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: nah nah.

525
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Speaker 1: And when he and when he came back to the Wizards,

526
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: because I was seventeen years I mean eighteen years old.

527
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: You know, I played against him when they won seventy

528
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: two and ten. That was my rookie year and I

529
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: played and I played against him his last year before

530
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: he retired. And you know that at O me was

531
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out, you know, who I was

532
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: as an NBA player and trying to learn the game.

533
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: So I didn't I didn't really you know, have that

534
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: that type of game, of that force that I wanted.

535
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: But when I when his ass came back when he

536
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: was with the Wizards, hey.

537
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: You may be wounded, but I'm gonna give you his work.

538
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: I gotta give you this work. I don't like what

539
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: you did to my mind when I was seventeen years old,

540
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: making me seem like you ain't real.

541
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: But that was Kobe mind saying.

542
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: You remember Kobe dropped fifty five oder the last time,

543
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: and people like, well, Kobe, why would you do that?

544
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: He said, That's what he would want me to do.

545
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: He would have it no other way because I guarantee

546
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: you if the roles were reversed.

547
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he would have did the same thing. Would

548
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: they did the same thing. So that's why before he

549
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: left that before I had to get at least forty

550
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: on it, Bro I had before he stopped playing. I

551
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: had to see that I dropped forty and I don't

552
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: care if the Wizards might because the Wizards. Mic was

553
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: still averaging twenty four point twenty five points and putting

554
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: up some crazy numbers when he was healthy playing, so

555
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I viewed him as Chicago Bulls Mike, he gotta come

556
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: get this work.

557
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: When you look, you know what I wanted to ask

558
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: you to. You Mac have a guy that played the

559
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: game at an elite level. There was a lot of

560
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: conversation going back and forth. When Bam got eighty three,

561
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: Bam got eighty three, look out he got the eighty three.

562
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: The game was out of reach.

563
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: T Matt, can you just tell the people how hard

564
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: he was to score forty fifty sixty, because I think

565
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: you've got a career high like sixty sixty two, So

566
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: now go to seventy, go to eighty. I don't give

567
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: a damn how he did it. I don't care if

568
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: he chaired pigs, no bird, whatever you guys call it,

569
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: with a guy just instead of the half court and

570
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: getting layups on the other end, I don't give it that.

571
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: What you call it, eighty three is eighty three.

572
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: Talk to the people from somebody that played the game

573
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: at an elite, high, high level. Explain to the people,

574
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: even though the Washington Wheelers are trash and it says

575
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: more about them than it does Baim, explain to people

576
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: eighty three damn.

577
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: Points that the league has been around, you know, seventy some.

578
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: Years, only nineteen forty seven, how.

579
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: Many people have scored that three three? That's all I happen.

580
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: It's only three regardless of how he did it and

581
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: how you view him as he when he did it,

582
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: it's eighty three points. And we haven't seen that only

583
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: one time, and that was that was b So yeah,

584
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: do I think it could have been a little bit

585
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: more competitive on Washington side, of course, but they that

586
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: they make millions of dollars, Well, they got a job

587
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: to do. And if you had an opportunity to make history,

588
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: who's not gonna do that. So when so so thirty

589
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: years from now, when you know, kids are coming up,

590
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: these babies right now, and they come up and they

591
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: looking at the scoringless like, damn, what man, we scored

592
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: eighty three points. They're not gonna care how he scored it.

593
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: They just know, man, that man is on the whole

594
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: time score. So I don't care how you scored it.

595
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: Man.

596
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of people out there that's

597
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: that's hating on the man because he overtook and Kobe

598
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: never had the record. I don't know what they talk

599
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: about it. Kobe had the record, like the record of

600
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: one hundred. The record is one hundred. Now we haven't

601
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: seen it. I haven't seen the video, but the record

602
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: is one hundred.

603
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: But you know what I think, t Matt, I think

604
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: because Kobe got eighty one and then see I think

605
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: it was bam Is because he's the most unlikeliest guy

606
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: to get eighty three. Had Kobe got eighty three, had

607
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: you got eighty, it got eighty plus. Had one of

608
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: these guys that we look at it scores, Kevin Durant,

609
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: James Harden, Allen Iverson. If we look if one of

610
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: you guys get it, I don't think anybody's batan the eye.

611
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: But you're talking about Bam. That's a career.

612
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: What twenty point a night score and all of a

613
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: sudden he jumped from twenty all the way up to.

614
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Get eighty three.

615
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: We don't.

616
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: We don't normally see guys go like that. Even you

617
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: look at Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell when he got seventy.

618
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: You look at Lookan got seventy. Those guys are scorers.

619
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: So it's not anything. So if they weren't have got

620
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: because we saw them get Luca got seventy three. I

621
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: think against the against the Hawks, I think Donald Mitchell

622
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: got seventy something. If they get eighty, we not even

623
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: bat in the eye. But Bam got it. If we

624
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: don't look at Bam as one of those guys a score.

625
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: He's an NBA player. Man, man got hot. He had

626
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: a phenomenal night. In the story like he scored eighty three. Man,

627
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: let that shit go, bro like right, man, he's an

628
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: NBA player. Bro, I've seen guys. I've seen guys. Evergon,

629
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen points in this league get fifty. So

630
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: what do you gotta say about that? Uh?

631
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're trying to you mute it? Ojo.

632
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Can you hear me now?

633
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

634
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 6: Hey, Mac, I got I got a question.

635
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: Listen.

636
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 6: Normally, normally pushback for for eighty three point game that

637
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 6: Bam scored. You hear from analysts, You hear from pundits,

638
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: you hear from from from fans that are just just

639
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: just fans of the game in general, that that enjoy

640
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 6: watching basketball. But when you hear pushback from actual players

641
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 6: that played the game, you know, and they complain also

642
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 6: about Bam scoring eighty three Why do you think that is,

643
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: especially from those who have played the game at the

644
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 6: highest level. Why would they have a problem with it.

645
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: It's because of how it happened, and rightfully so, like

646
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: it was. It was a nasty game. It was a

647
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: nasty game of what they was doing. That's what the

648
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: that's what they're spoking on it. There's no disrespect to Bam.

649
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: It's just how it happened, you know what I mean.

650
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Like the Washington Wizards and filing and then Miami's filing

651
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: to get.

652
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: Get the ball back.

653
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. It was. It was all

654
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: that stuff right there is what they were pissed off about.

655
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. Did you did you see shumps come in?

656
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I did not.

657
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: If min Shumper said, this is what he said about, Bam,

658
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: don't bring up eighty no more. Don't bring that up.

659
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: That was a regular season game versus a tanking team.

660
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: You murdered that team and then you walk off.

661
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Bam.

662
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: You don't need to talk about it. We all saw it.

663
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Let us talk about it. I'm in a suit, I

664
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: can talk about it. Don't talk about it no more, bam,

665
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: because now it looks weird. You about to make it well.

666
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't like eighty three no more. I'm dead serious.

667
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: Please don't be holding onto that this Bam. I need

668
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: you to add to your resume. If that, I'm talking

669
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: about it forever. As a matter of fact, I'm changing

670
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: my name mister eighty three.

671
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: Actually that's gonna be my social media, my social media

672
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: name on all social media chapels three straight up? Like,

673
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: come on, like, how you not talk about man and

674
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: these people? You're crazy? That's eighty three points in an

675
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: NBA game I do against NBA players. That's making millions

676
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: of dollars.

677
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 7: Come on, we can't young history.

678
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: It's history.

679
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 5: How can you not?

680
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 6: How can you not talk about history? You're you're a

681
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 6: part of it.

682
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Let me get I.

683
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Tell you what, yo.

684
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: Let's just say for the sake of argument, all their

685
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: top corners go out, but you get three hundred yards

686
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: and y'all still throwing the ball. Y'all up twenty one points,

687
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: and y'all throw the ball and you catch a fifteen

688
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: yard route to go over three hundred.

689
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: You gonna talk? Are you gonna say?

690
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 6: Man?

691
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: I feel bad for him? They top three quarters out,

692
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: I did.

693
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: The No you I'm gonna talk.

694
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 6: You be crazy. I might change my last name of

695
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 6: three hundred two.

696
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Shut up three hundred odat do you? It's very rare

697
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: for us to see this type of performance, regardless of yeah, right,

698
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: for that's how it happens. It's supposed to be the

699
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: best players in the world, right, supposed to be in

700
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: the world, right, That's all I'm saying. So we're the

701
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: best players in the best league. The man scored eighty

702
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: three points. There's no ascid. It happened.

703
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: I think see people that, well, Kobe didn't mention it. Well,

704
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: Kobe had a game where he stopped at sixty two

705
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: and left in the third at the end of the

706
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: third and then come back in the game. Kobe has

707
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: had these scoring outbursts, so we're not surprised. I don't

708
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: think anybody was surprised because just three weeks earlier he

709
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: had a sixty two point game where he outscored in time.

710
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistake, I think it was the Mavericks

711
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: himself in three quarters a surprise when Kobe like kept

712
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: going and ended up getting that, or if when Jordan

713
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: has got these sixty points. But but Bam, I don't

714
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: even know if BAM's career high, if bam career highs

715
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: even forty.

716
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember you remember David Robinson.

717
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: Was Game of the season, They got him scoring title to.

718
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: Beat, see him every single time, every single trip. We

719
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: don't say nothing about that, right.

720
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think it was against

721
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: the Clippers.

722
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: It was against the Clippers.

723
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: He had seventy one.

724
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Man he wasn't scoring that against nobody else but the Clippers.

725
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: Why because they were in Washington.

726
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: Well, you be the Washington Generals to play the Harlem

727
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: Gold Trotters. That's what that's what, That's what the Wizards are. Now, Hey,

728
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: te man, you said this week the Board of Governors

729
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: and NBA they're convening and they're gonna vote possibly expansion

730
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: one Vegas, one Seattle. You said you was like, hold on, guys,

731
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure there's enough talent on the thirty

732
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: current NBA teams for you to dilute it even more

733
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: adding two more teams because players can only you could

734
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: only protect a certain number of players, and then everybody

735
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: else is up for a discussion with those teams, like, okay,

736
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: I want this guy, want that guy.

737
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: What went into your thought process?

738
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: Why did you say you don't think there's enough talent

739
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: that's currently in the NBA for the league to add

740
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: two more teams.

741
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: So we just talked. We just talked about them scoring

742
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: eighty three points. Right, what did you call that team?

743
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: He scored eighty three points.

744
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: The Washington Generals. We want to see we want two

745
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: more teams.

746
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 8: And you just said the NBA team you call these

747
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 8: boys the Washington Generals.

748
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: They're not the only team like that. You got Utah

749
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: thinking you got the Brooklyn Nex. Yeah, you want to

750
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: watch the Brooklyn X. Nah, bro I don't why why

751
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: you don't Why you don't want to watch the Brooklyn Nets.

752
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: They ain't even trying that at least at least the

753
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: Wizards are playing their guys. T Matt the Utah not

754
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: even they take that guys out. They down by two,

755
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: and they they started for the whole fourth quarter. Trooper,

756
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: they getting surgery on the on the wisdom tooth he

757
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: out for the rest of the year.

758
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: Man.

759
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: You so when you answer that, you asked me Sacramento, Sacramento. No,

760
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: so you talked about adding two more teams.

761
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 6: And I got a question, But I got a question.

762
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 3: Mac oh, let me let me follow this up right quick,

763
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: t Max.

764
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: You're talking about two teams and each team they say

765
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: that the winning beer is gonna be somewhere between seven

766
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: and ten billion dollars, and the owners, you know that

767
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: that's probably five hundred that's probably five hundred maybe six

768
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in each owner's pockets.

769
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I don't want to take no money out

770
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: of nobody pocket. I know it's about bread. I know

771
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: it's about bread, But I'm just saying, as a fan

772
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: of the game, okay, and we don't have the product. Man,

773
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sorry, we just don't have the product.

774
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm uky. The league is weird. It's strange, man, I

775
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: don't I can't understand the league. I'm looking at a

776
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: guy that average thirty points last year in the NBA,

777
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: twenty nine to thirty points on a bad team, but

778
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: a bucket getter, probably one of the best bucket getters

779
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: in our league as a young player. He gets waved

780
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: from his team. Another bad team picks him up, right

781
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: th Cam Thomas. Another team, bad team picks him up.

782
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: He stays there for a few weeks and they wave

783
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: him that. Oh Joe the Brother Act was averaging thirty

784
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA last season before he got hurt, and

785
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: he's out of the NBA. So come on, like, I

786
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: want that type of talent in the NBA. I want somebody.

787
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I want that in the NBA to where he takes

788
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: tough shots. He a tough shot maker. He can't find

789
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: out he can't find a home in the NBA. Now,

790
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know the other self that's going on, Whether

791
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: there's an attitude or he's not you know what I'm saying,

792
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: I don't know none of that. I don't have any

793
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: of that information. But in terms of a basketball player

794
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: and what we need in this league, what we want

795
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: to see, that kid is one of the best scores

796
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: you will see in this league.

797
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 6: A mac what I'm going to say, right, you know,

798
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 6: if it make money, it makes sense, especially the owner

799
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: to the GMS. The bottom line, it will always be

800
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 6: the same, and it's always been the same since the

801
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: beginning of time. It's always about.

802
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 5: It's always about the money.

803
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: So with these two expansion teams, if Seattle is able

804
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 6: to get one, if Vegas is able to get one,

805
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 6: how long do you think it would take before they're

806
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 6: able to produce the product or get the product necessary

807
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 6: for those teams to compete Or is that not possible

808
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: because it's not enough basketball players in general?

809
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: No, I think it is possible because I mean there's

810
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think with some of these kids coming

811
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: out of college, it depends on like how you construct

812
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: your roster. There's some vets that's probably are you know,

813
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: up for a contract and possibly we'll look at that

814
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: Las Vegas situation or look at a phenomenal city too.

815
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: By the way Vegas for NBA players. Yeah, but that's

816
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: a little trigger. That's Vegas. Hey, hey, hey, the girls

817
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: can handle that. The w n b A players hand

818
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: of that. The NFL players. It's more of a strict league.

819
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: You know, you guys don't have got one. Yeah, y'all

820
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: got and y'all have a NBA players got too much

821
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: downtime though. Vegas might be in a little tricky But

822
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: tell us.

823
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: About the Ones league that you found the Temple? What what?

824
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: What is the Ones?

825
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: So that's my one on one league, man. You know, I,

826
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: you know, started the one on one league back in

827
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and there was my proof of concept season.

828
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: And I started this league because of where I am

829
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: sitting today is because of a platform that I got on

830
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, and that was the

831
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: ABCD camp. So if y'all don't know, I was an

832
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: unknown ice school player up until my senior year. Nobody

833
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: really knew who I was. I got invited to the

834
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: Adidas camp, become you know, the number one player after

835
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: that Adidas camp, and you know, the story is go

836
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: to the NBA and the rest is history. So it's

837
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: that platform that really made me who I was and

838
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: gave me a name. So it's a lot of hoopers, Ocho.

839
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: You know you grew up down in the bottom, man,

840
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: You grew up some guys that that can hoop like

841
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: crazy and probably had, you know, a situation where someone

842
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: in the family died and they had to pivot and

843
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: step up and you know, be the parent the guardian

844
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: in that situation, or they just couldn't get it right

845
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: as a as a teenager and it was then some

846
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: trouble and you know, ruined their careers or whatever. And

847
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: then guys just really didn't get the opportunity to live

848
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: out their dream of player basketball. Well, there are so

849
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: many guys, so much talent and one on one out here, man,

850
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: that I feel they should have that platform. Oh you played,

851
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: you played one on one growing up? I did. Oh, Joe,

852
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: you played one on one? No play go ahead of

853
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: t back?

854
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: Hey, t back? You know twenty one was one on one.

855
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: It was one on one against fifteen other guys.

856
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: I was just up all to say that, like, I

857
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: grew up playing one on one and then twenty one

858
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: was our cousin.

859
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: Now it looks weird you about to make it. Well,

860
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't like eighty three, no more. I'm dead serious.

861
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: Please don't be holding onto that disc band. I need

862
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 2: you to add to your resume. If that, I'm talking

863
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: about it forever. As a matter of fact, I'm changing

864
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 2: my name mister eighty three.

865
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 1: Mister eighty three. Actually that's gonna be my social media

866
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: my social media name on all social media channels. Eighty three,

867
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: straight up? Like, come on, like, how do you not

868
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: talk about man? Man? These people are here crazy. That's

869
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: eighty three points in an NBA game I do against

870
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: NBA players. That's making millions of dollars.

871
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 7: Come on, can't young history? It's history?

872
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: How can you not?

873
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: How?

874
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 6: How can you not talk about history? You're you're a

875
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 6: part of it. Let me get I tell you what, Joe.

876
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, all their

877
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: top corners go out, but you get three hundred yards

878
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 2: and y'all still throwing the ball. Y'all up twenty one points,

879
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: and y'all throw the ball and you catch a fifteen

880
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: yard route to go over three hundred.

881
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: You gonna talk? Are you gonna say?

882
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: Man?

883
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: I feel bad for him? They top three quarters out.

884
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 5: I did the no no you in the NFL. I'm

885
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 5: gonna talk.

886
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 6: You'd be crazy. I might change my last name of

887
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 6: three hundred two.

888
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: Shut it up, three hundred odat you. It's very rare

889
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: for us to see this type of performance regardless. Yeah,

890
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: thanks right for goodless how it happens. It's supposed to

891
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: be the best players in the world, right, it's supposed

892
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: to do.

893
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 7: In the world.

894
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: Right, That's all I'm saying. So we're the best players

895
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: in the best league. The man scored eighty three points.

896
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: There's no asteridge it happened.

897
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: I think see people that. Well, Kobe didn't mention it.

898
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: Well, cobD had a game where he stopped at sixty

899
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: two and left in the third at the end of

900
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: the third and then come back in the game. Kobe

901
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: has had these scoring outbursts, so we're not surprised. I

902
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: don't think anybody was surprised, because just three weeks earlier

903
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: he had a sixty two point game where he outscored

904
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: in time. If I'm not gonna take I think it

905
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: was the Mavericks himself in three quarters surprise when Kobe

906
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: like kept going and ended up getting that, or if

907
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: when Jordan has got these sixty points. But but bam,

908
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: I don't even know if BAM's career high, if bam

909
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: career highs even forty.

910
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember you remember David Robinson due the last.

911
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: Game of the season, they got scoring title to.

912
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: Beat see them every single time, every single trip. We

913
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: don't say nothing about that, right.

914
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think it was a

915
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: gift the Clippers.

916
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: It was against the Clippers. Ye man, he wasn't scoring

917
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: that against nobody else but the Clippers. Why because they

918
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: were like.

919
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: In Washington, Well, you be the Washington Generals to play

920
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: the Harlem gold Trotters.

921
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: That's what. That's what, That's what the Wizards are.

922
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: Now.

923
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Hey, t Man, you said this week the Board of

924
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: Governors and.

925
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: NBA they're convening and they're gonna vote possibly expansion one Vegas,

926
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: one Seattle. You said you was like, hold on, guys,

927
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure there's enough talent on the thirty

928
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: current NBA teams for you to dilute it even more

929
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: adding two more teams because players can only you could

930
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: only protect a certain number of plays years and then

931
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: everybody else is up for a discussion with those teams,

932
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 2: like okay, I want this guy, want that guy.

933
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: What went into your thought process.

934
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: Why did you say you don't think there's enough talent

935
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: that's currently in the.

936
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: NBA for the league to add two more teams.

937
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: So we just talked. We just talked about man scoring

938
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: eighty three points, right, what did you call that team?

939
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: He scored eighty three points, the Washington Generals. We want

940
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: to see we want two more teams.

941
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 8: And you just said the NBA team you call these

942
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 8: boys the Washington Generals.

943
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: They're not the only team like that. You got Utah Painking,

944
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: you got the Brooklyn Nex. Yeah, you want to watch

945
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn X. Nah, bro, I don't why why you

946
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: want Why you don't want to watch the Brooklyn Nets.

947
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: They ain't even trying that, at least at least the

948
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: Wizards are playing their guys. T mat the Utah not

949
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: even they take their guys out. They down by two,

950
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: and they bitch. They started to sort the whole fourth

951
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: quarter troop. They getting surgery on the on the wisdom

952
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: tooth he out for the rest of the year.

953
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Man. You so when you answer that, you asked me Sacramento,

954
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: you too white, Sacramento. No, So you talked about two

955
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: more teams, and come.

956
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: On, I got a question, But I got a question, Mac,

957
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: oh till, let me let me follow this up right quick,

958
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: t Max. You're talking about two teams and each team

959
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: they say that the winning bid is gonna be somewhere

960
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: between seven and ten billion dollars, and the owners, you

961
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: know that that's probably five hundred that's probably five hundred

962
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: maybe six hundred million dollars in each owner's pockets.

963
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I don't want to take no money out

964
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: of nobody pocket. I know it's about bread. I know

965
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: it's about bread. But I'm just saying, as a fan

966
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: of the game, okay, and we don't have the product. Man,

967
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sorry, we just don't have the product

968
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: up I'm looking for. The league is weird. It's strange, man,

969
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't I can't understand the league. I'm looking at

970
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: a guy that average thirty points last year in the NBA,

971
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: twenty nine to thirty points on a bad team, but

972
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: a bucket getter, probably one of the best bucket getters

973
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: in our league. As a young player, he gets waved

974
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: from his team. Another bad team picks him up, right

975
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: Tho Cam Thomas. Another team, bad team picks him up.

976
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: He stays there for a few weeks and they waved

977
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: him that. Oh Joe the Brother Act was averaging thirty

978
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA last season before he got hurt, and

979
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: he's out of the NBA. So come on, like, I

980
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: want that type of talent in the NBA. I want somebody.

981
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: I want that in the NBA to where he takes

982
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: tough shots. He a tough shot maker. He can't find

983
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: out he can't find a home in the NBA. Now,

984
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know the other stuff that's going on, whether

985
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: it's attitude or he's not you know what I'm saying.

986
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't know none of that. I don't have any

987
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: of that information. But in terms of a basketball player

988
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: and what we need in this league, what we want

989
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: to see that kid is one of the best scores

990
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: you will see in this league.

991
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 6: A MAC what I'm gonna say right, you know, if

992
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 6: it make money, it makes sense, especially the owner to

993
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 6: the GMS. The bottom line, it will always be the same,

994
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 6: and it's always been the same since the beginning of time.

995
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 6: It's always about.

996
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 5: It's always about the money.

997
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: So with these two expansion teams, if Seattle is able

998
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 6: to get one, if Vegas is able to get one,

999
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 6: how long do you think it would take before they're

1000
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 6: able to produce the product or get the product necessary

1001
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 6: for those teams to compete. Or is that not possible

1002
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 6: because it's not enough basketball players in general.

1003
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: No, I think it is possible because I mean there,

1004
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think with some of these kids coming

1005
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: out of college, it depends on like how you construct

1006
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: your roster. There's some vets that's probably are you know,

1007
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: up for a contract and possibly we'll look at that

1008
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: Las Vegas situation or look at Seattle, a phenomenal city too.

1009
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: By the way, Vegas for NBA players, Yeah, but that's

1010
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: a little trigger. That's Vegas. Hey. Hey, hey, the girls

1011
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: can handle that. The w n B A player hand

1012
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: of that. The NFL players. It's more of a strict league.

1013
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: You know, you guys don't have got one. Yeah, y'all,

1014
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: y'all have a NBA players got too much downtime, though.

1015
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: Vegas might be a little trick.

1016
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: But tell us about the ones league that you found

1017
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: the Temple what what? What is the ones?

1018
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: So that's my one on one league, man, you know,

1019
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: I you know, started the one on one league back

1020
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and it was my proof of

1021
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: concept season and I started this league because of where

1022
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: I am sitting today is because of platform that I

1023
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: got on when I was in high school, and that

1024
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: was the ABC D Camp. So if y'all don't know,

1025
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: I was an unknown high school player up until my

1026
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: senior year, nobody really knew who I was. I got

1027
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: invited to the Adidas camp, become you know, the number

1028
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: one player after that Adidas camp, and you know the

1029
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: story is go to the NBA and the rest is history.

1030
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: So it's that platform that really made me who I

1031
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: was and gave me a name. So it's a lot

1032
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: of hoopers, Ocho. You know, you grew up down in

1033
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: the bottom, man, you grew up some guys that that

1034
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: can hoop like crazy and probably had, you know, a

1035
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: situation where someone in the family died and they had

1036
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: to pivot and step up and you know, be the

1037
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: parent the guardian in that situation or they just couldn't

1038
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: get it right as a as a teenager. It was

1039
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: then some trouble and you know, ruined their careers or whatever,

1040
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: and then guys just really didn't get the opportunity to

1041
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: live out their dream of playing basketball. Well, there are

1042
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: so many guys, so much talent and one on one

1043
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: out here man that I feel they should have that platform.

1044
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: You played, you played one on one growing up? I did,

1045
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you played one one? No play ahead, back, hey,

1046
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: t back?

1047
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: You know twenty one was one on one one against

1048
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: fifteen other guys.

1049
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that, like I grew

1050
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: up playing one on one and then twenty one was

1051
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: our one on one. So yep, man, I just say,

1052
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: these cats out here really need that platform. I want

1053
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: to create it for him. But on top of that,

1054
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's much bigger than just giving them a

1055
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: platform to make a name for the Stelf in basketball.

1056
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: I also want to do something for brothers that look

1057
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: like us in the ownership department. See, it's not too

1058
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: it's in your league. It's not too many guys that

1059
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: look like us that have ownership. I was lucky enough.

1060
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to have that opportunity to go

1061
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: in with the Buffalo Bills with my cousin Vince, so

1062
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: we you know, we got some ownership with that, and

1063
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: it just really you know, sparked my interest with like,

1064
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: I want to do this for my people, and I

1065
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: want to change how I'm building this league. So I'm

1066
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: building it to have cities. I want cities and have

1067
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: guys like Jadakis, who's from New York. I can give

1068
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: him fifteen percent of this team that's based out of

1069
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: New York. John wall is from Raleigh. I gave him

1070
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of that Raleigh team. And I have eight

1071
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: cities and eight owners and gms that I assigned to

1072
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: this team. Gave him equity. I didn't want any money

1073
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: for them. I just handed it to them because they

1074
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: are impactful in those cities that they grew up. And

1075
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: then when you look at the game of basketball, our

1076
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: game of basketball NBA, like Steph Curry is not from

1077
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: Oakland or San Francisco, Lebron James is not from LA

1078
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: These guys are home grown from these these cities, and

1079
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: I want that community to get behind them and push

1080
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: these guys and support these guys. So that's why I

1081
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: wanted to do this, man, And you know, I'm really

1082
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: excited about giving these guys this platform.