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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadik Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: take two or three from the Pirates, set up four against.

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Speaker 2: The three or four, three or four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, take three or four. They're setting up three against

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Speaker 1: the Brewers here and and then the Mariners to wrap

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Speaker 1: up a longer home stand. I mean, the reality is

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Speaker 1: they're not playing their best baseball right now. The HAF

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Speaker 1: doesn't look great, but they're doing enough. They've they've grown

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Speaker 1: their lead over the past two weeks, two and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks in the division, their first place team that

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Speaker 1: has a bigger division lead than they did a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. And you know, baseball is a long season.

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Speaker 1: It is you're not going We've said it when they

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Speaker 1: when the offense was clicking, they weren't going to score

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Speaker 1: six and a half runs a game. What you didn't

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Speaker 1: want was a collapse of the offense. And if it

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Speaker 1: did collapse, you want to find ways to grind out wins.

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Speaker 1: It seems like they're doing that right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a ton of style points. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if winning ugly is too harsh because the

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Speaker 2: pitching has been good. They have an excellent defense, and

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Speaker 2: they've executed enough in the right moments against a run

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Speaker 2: of really good starting pitchers, I mean types of guys

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Speaker 2: who are gonna get cy Young votes this year, who

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Speaker 2: you would trust starting playoff games. And yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: going back to the end of that really soft stretch

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Speaker 2: kind of at the tail end of May, there it comes.

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Speaker 2: We had a three game division lead, and now it's

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Speaker 2: up to five and a half games without really like

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Speaker 2: blowing teams away with their offense the way they did

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Speaker 2: earlier this year. And I think it speaks to the

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Speaker 2: adaptability of this offense, the points of emphasis they've made

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Speaker 2: on finding different ways to win at Wrigley Field. And

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Speaker 2: then of course, yeah, I mean pitching and defense has

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Speaker 2: been very good here, all right.

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Speaker 1: So some quick numbers, Patrick, they have the lowest so

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Speaker 1: since May twenty six, so that's the start of that

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Speaker 1: Colorado series at home, right, So this is about six

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Speaker 1: ten games at home, nine games on the road, so

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Speaker 1: a decent mix. Lowest batting average in baseball during Matt Stretch.

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Speaker 1: As far as way to Runs Great plus, third lowest

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Speaker 1: I head of Pittsburgh and Colorado runs scored that is

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Speaker 1: third lowest, ahead of Cleveland and Kansas City sixty four

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Speaker 1: runs scored two twenty five batting average eighty four way

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Speaker 1: to Runs Great A plus. They also sorry, not two

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Speaker 1: They also have the lowest babbite to sixty three. They're

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Speaker 1: not striking out a ton. It's not like they're putting

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Speaker 1: the ball in play. They're striking out, you know, below

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Speaker 1: league average rate. They're from just not finding any holes

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Speaker 1: right now. This is this was kind of inevitable. You

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Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be this low. But you know, again,

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Speaker 1: they're winning games. I think the offense will turn. We

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Speaker 1: talked about Dansby Swanson recently. He was really struggling. Now

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Speaker 1: he comes up with some big hits. Ian haf struggles

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Speaker 1: comes up with big hits. It's you know, we'll get

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Speaker 1: a little bit into Kyle Tucker soon. But he's not

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Speaker 1: really hitting much. He's not doing a lot of damage.

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Speaker 1: PCA was He's bound to cool down. He can't constantly

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Speaker 1: play like the way he was. He's still hitting, but

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Speaker 1: which was an insane pace. Uh, just just in general,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the offense is not doing a lot. You

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Speaker 1: know all those numbers with the bullpen, Patrick, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: from this point they're this good. They have the fourth

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Speaker 1: best era in baseball just overall. It doesn't mean don't

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Speaker 1: the bad times. Fourth best bullpen her in baseball. They

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Speaker 1: strong starting pitching. The bullpen has just kicks a bot lately,

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Speaker 1: and and they're the reason they're winning a lot of

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Speaker 1: games right now. They're they're able to extend this lead

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Speaker 1: know how long that will last. And hopefully this all

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Speaker 1: when the bullpen eventually hits a rocky point, the offense

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Speaker 1: really good seasons happen, because it's I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's it. That that team was so dominant from start

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Speaker 1: having the normal ups and downs of a season sometimes

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Speaker 1: fans don't don't fully appreciate that that's that's just normal.

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Speaker 1: You're you. You can still win ninety two games or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and and have these moments where not everything is perfect,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just sort of avoiding those huge crashes.

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Speaker 2: It's just a big part of being a successful organization.

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Speaker 2: And we've seen it the last two years where stretches

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Speaker 2: think it's important to not get swept in Detroit, to

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Speaker 2: not get swept in Philadelphia, to win that four game series,

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Speaker 2: against a bad Pirates team. I mean all four games

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Speaker 2: were sort of coin flips, right, I mean all one run,

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Speaker 2: one run games. One goes into extras, like you know,

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Speaker 2: the good teams find ways to kind of uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: press those small advantages. Yes, PCA was going to cool down.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's not, you know, I think whatever it is

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Speaker 2: right now, he still has that game changing ability every

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Speaker 2: against what was it Heeny the other night? You have

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Speaker 2: they have trades that should not go into slumps, meaning

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Speaker 2: their defense and pa just making plays that probably aren't.

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Speaker 2: They probably look easier than they are on TV. It's

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Speaker 2: just that he gets such great jumps and is so

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Speaker 2: Like those are plays that for you quote unquote normal

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Speaker 2: sort of does it with ease. It's kind of amazing

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Speaker 2: to watch, particularly from our vantage point up in the

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Speaker 2: his defensive play saving a run that was in the

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Speaker 1: Any hit. Defensive, yeah, you're right, it shouldn't slump. It

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Speaker 1: pretty much across the board. Everyone is really strong defensively.

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Speaker 1: So you have these these aspects. I think sometimes you

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Speaker 1: it's easy to say, like they're not playing well. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to dwell on it, but Wriggly sucks right

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Speaker 1: now for offense still. It's just it's amazing how bad

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Speaker 1: it's been all season long. You know. I think we

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Speaker 1: that may Typically it does lead to the wind blowing out.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to predict anything but that weird

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Speaker 1: Brigley has been But it's been rough, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's the only reason the Cups. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: the things. It's it's not just one little thing, but

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Speaker 1: they're they're not they're not doing enough as far as

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Speaker 1: to justify saying like, oh, it's a fine offense, but

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Speaker 1: they're doing enough as far as winning games, and I

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yet you would you have would you have loved to

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Speaker 1: constans have loved to have seen them kind of extend

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Speaker 1: this to like an eight game lead in the division. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but when you go through these down moments, you just don't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want it to become a two game lead.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want it to be uh, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Patrick, it was a little odd to see uh Kyle

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Speaker 1: Tucker not in the lineup Sunday. He's been dhing a lot.

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Speaker 1: Sunday was odd because Mitch Kellard's on the mound. He's

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Speaker 1: just an odd situation. Uh, what was the explanation you

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Speaker 2: the way council explain was it's not bad, but the

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Speaker 2: being pragmatic. Like when you're talking about a baseball player,

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Speaker 2: the hands are really important. Like we're not playing soccer here,

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Speaker 1: So Shoda through again over the weekend in Arizona another

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Speaker 2: So the plan is for Shoda to throw another bullpen

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Speaker 2: right Like if if the Red Sox hadn't done that

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Speaker 1: Yeah in Chicago, now yeah, I mean, who knows what

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Speaker 1: Obviously it would look very different right now. Who knows

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it's worth even bringing up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it up, but I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Kate Horton is an option to go down. Craig

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Speaker 1: Council loves him. No, Craig Council loves him. I understand

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Speaker 1: there's some thoughts out there that he like, what do

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Speaker 3: He he he talks about his ability to like go

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Speaker 1: About him and the way he talks about his ability

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Speaker 1: But if you listen to him, you can tell when

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Speaker 1: he's like he likes someone or he thinks highly of him,

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Speaker 1: and and Horton's in that category, Like there's no he's

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't overthink things there. If you're wondering if that's possibility,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it is not right now. If

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Speaker 1: being overused or getting hired that don't monitor that. They

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Speaker 1: have ways of checking on that, and and then they'll

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Speaker 1: to do. But I don't think that's coming anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They don't seem concerned about it at the moment. He's

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Speaker 1: pitching too well, he's too important for this team right now.

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Speaker 1: I think you just keep writing.

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Speaker 2: That, Uh agree, one hundred percent. I would also point out,

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Speaker 2: as we always say, like more stuff is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: So as as close as SHOWDA appears to be now,

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Speaker 2: there's still a lot of days that have to go

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Speaker 2: cover a lot of innings between now and then, and

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Speaker 2: we just don't know who else is going to show

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Speaker 2: up at Wrigley, you know, this week or road and

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Speaker 2: you know something's barking or something isn't feeling well, Like

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Speaker 2: that's just kind of the nature of the game, and

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe these decisions kind of sort themselves out,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Ben Brown will have, you know, some

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Speaker 2: opportunities here to keep to change their minds or to

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Speaker 2: kind of cement his status and show what the Cubs

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Speaker 2: have seen. And honestly, like we've seen it. It's been

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Speaker 2: on Sunday night baseball at Dodger Stadium. I mean it

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Speaker 2: was against the Brewers last year. With that, you're kind

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Speaker 2: of flirting with a no hitter. I mean there's you know,

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Speaker 2: significant stretches, like big moments where you're like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: get it, wow, And there just hasn't been enough of those.

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Speaker 2: And this is not a team as we all know,

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Speaker 2: that's in like development mode. Like the runway just isn't

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Speaker 2: won't be there for that much longer and the Cubs

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Speaker 2: are just going to have to make decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yep, No, I completely agree on that. All right, Thanks

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Speaker 1: with a couple more episodes this week. Three against the Brewers,

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Speaker 1: three against the Mariners, and then a road trip that

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Speaker 1: starts in Saint Louis. Four in Saint Louis. That's the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first time they're playing Saint Louis. They're not playing

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Speaker 1: as well as they were, you know, a week ago.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see where they are a week from now,

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Speaker 1: because that's always fun. All right, We'll be back at

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