1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, the Weekend Review, Ben 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories that 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: you may have missed that we talked about this week. 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: First up, Scotus getting involved in the deportation of Venezuela 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: and illegals. It's interesting to see what Alito and Thomas 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: had to say about it. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: We're going to break that down. 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Also, you know that Teslaitaris, well, some radical judges are saying, yeah, 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: let's just let him go. Where's it happening and how 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: are they getting away with it? That as well? And finally, yes, 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: it's real CNN sounding the alarm that the Democratic Party 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: is in total disarray. So is the Democratic Party over with? 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: And are they just going to admit their socialists and 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: communists and Marxists. Will break that down as well. It's 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: the Weekend Review and it starts right now. I want 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: to move also to this second big story. And there's 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: some people that are confused. I also think very frustrated 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: by this Supreme Court halting the deportations of illegal immigrants 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: and cases. Can you break down what this ruling is. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: Alito was in the descent here and the headlines over 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Easter weekend, people are like, wait, what, how, why is 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: this happening. I don't understand how we're protecting people that 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: are legal immigrants. Yet again, at the level of the 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 2: Supreme Court break this down, so it makes sense. 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Well, the Supreme Court early Saturday morning issued in order 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: blocking the deportation of Venezuelan illegal immigrants under an eighteenth 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: century law. And what it said is that they had 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: to halt the deportations until quote further order of this Court. 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: And I got to say, Justice Alito, joined by Justice Thomas, 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: wrote a very fiery descent, really disagreeing with it. I'm 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: going I'm gonna read you part of the descent. Here's 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: what Justice Alito and Justice Thomas wrote. 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Quote. 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: Shortly after midnight yesterday, the Court hastily and prematurely granted 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: unprecedented emergency relief proceeding under the all Ritz Act. The 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: Court ordered the quote government not to remove a quote 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: putative class of detainees until this Court issues a superseding order. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: Although the order does not define the quote putative class, 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: it appears that the Court means all members of the 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: class that the Habeas petitioners sought to have certified, namely 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: quote all non citizens in custody in the Northern District 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: of Texas who were, are and will be subject to 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: the March twenty twenty five Presidential proclamation entitled Invocation of 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: the Alien Enemies Act regarding the Invasion of the United 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: States by Trender Aragua and or its implementation. It also 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: appears that applicants have recently moved to amend their class 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: petition for Habeas corpus and their motion for class certification, 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: so it is not clear if the applicants will continue 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: to defend this specific definition or will argue for a 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: new one. And although the Court does not specify what 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: it means by the government, it appears that term is 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: intended to embrace all the name defendants, including the President. 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: The Court did all of this even though it is 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: not clear that the court had jurisdiction. The Allrits Act 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: does not provide an independent grant of jurisdiction. Therefore, the 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: court had jurisdiction only if the Court of Appeals had 58 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: jurisdictions of the applicants appeal, and the Court of Appeals 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: had jurisdiction only if the supposed order that the applicants 60 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: appealed amounted to a denial of a preliminary injunction. But 61 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: here the order that applicants appealed was what they viewed 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: as the District Court's constructive denial of their request for 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: a temporary restraining order. That is, the District Court did 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: not actually deny their most recent request for a TRO, 65 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: but they inferred that it was constructively denied because the 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: District Court failed a rule on that request before the 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: expiration of a truncated counts imposed deadline. The denial of 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: a true TRO is not appealable, and here it is 69 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: not clear that the applicant's TRO request was actually denied. Indeed, 70 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: an order issued last night the Fifth Circuit held that 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 3: it lacked jurisdiction. For this reason, it is questionable whether 72 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: the applicant complied with a general obligation to seek emergency 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: and junctive relief in the district Court before asking for 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: such relief from an appellate court. When applicants requested such 75 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: relief in the District Court, they insisted on a ruling 76 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: within forty five minutes on Good Friday afternoon, and when 77 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: the District Court did not act within one hundred and 78 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: thirty three minutes, they filed a notice of appeal, which 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: the District Court held deprived it of its jurisdiction. Now 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: a lot of that that jurisdictional language seems confusing, but 81 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: understand what happened. They went to the District Court and 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: they said we want an answer within forty five minutes, 83 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: and the court did not respond one where another forty 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: five minutes. They immediately appealed and said, up, they haven't answered. 85 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: That means you've denied it. And the Court of Appeals 86 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: ruled that, well, we're not going to act on this, 87 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: and unfortunately, seven to two, the Supreme Court jumped in. 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: And in fact, here's how Justice Leado and Justice Thomas 89 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: end their dissent quote in some literally in the middle 90 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: of the night, the Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief, 91 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without 92 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: the application, with dubious factual support for its order, and 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: without providing any explanation for its order. I refused to 95 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: join the Court's order because we had no good reason 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: to think that under the circumstances, issuing the order at 97 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: midnight was necessary or appropriate. Both the Executive and the 98 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: judiciary have an obligation of of the law. The executive 99 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: must proceed under the terms of our order, and this 100 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: court should follow established procedures. 101 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: So you look at this and what is this going 102 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: to mean moving forward? And how big of a roadblock 103 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: is this going to be for the Trump administration to 104 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: do what they've said and promised the American people. And 105 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: by the way, the American people voted for, which was 106 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: we want to secure the border and we want to 107 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: get rid of all the illegal immigrants that came into 108 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: this country, especially those that are violent. 109 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: Well, look, it's not clear how big a challenge it's 110 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: going to be. The most distressing thing about this order 111 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: was that it was seven to two. 112 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: Seven to two is not good. 113 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: It means everybody by Alito and Thomas voted to stay 114 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: to halt the deportations of Venezuelans. 115 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: It's not clear. 116 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: Presumably they're going to write a more extended opinion at 117 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: some point, and so we'll find out more their reasoning. 118 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: But I got to say, look, look, these two stories, 119 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: this story in the first one are connected because I 120 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: will say the Democrats strategy in doing the full Ginsburg 121 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: in some ways, I think their audience is not the 122 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: American people. They've got to know somebody on the Democrat 123 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: side of the aisle has got to know, Hey, this 124 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: is not earning US votes. When we say we're the 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: party of illegal aliens and criminals and gang members and 126 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: wife beaters, that's us that. 127 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to be. 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: A rocket scientist when it comes to reading public opinion 129 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: to know that's not the most popular of issues to 130 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: stake your entire party platform on. But in many ways, 131 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: they're aiming at a much smaller audience. They're they're they're 132 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: aiming at five They're hoping to get five justices pissed off, 133 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: and to get them pissed off enough that we see 134 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: a series of Supreme Court orders against the Trump administration 135 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: trying to halt these deportations. Now, I don't think that's 136 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: going to happen, but this ruling is troubling that it 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: was seven to two. 138 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Alito's descent. 139 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: Look, Alito was was very concerned about this, uh and 140 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: and the procedural minutia that he that he recounts as 141 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: is very unusual. Uh And so that dynamic it is 142 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: a dangerous process. 143 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: Uh it is. 144 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: Right now, there's a little bit of a game of chicken, 145 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: and I think what the Democrats are trying to do 146 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: is piss off a couple of Supreme Court justices and 147 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: get them to rule decisively against the president. 148 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: That would be very unfortunate if that starts to happen. 149 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: Simply another question, real quick before we move on, is 150 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: part of this. Could it just be the quickness that 151 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: they were asking for the ruling from the court. Is 152 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: that something that you could change moving forward? Could that 153 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: be part of that issue? 154 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it was done as an emergency appeal, and 155 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: and they're there's another context to where this happens a lot, 156 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: which is dealing with death penalty appeals. And when you 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: have death penalty appeals, you have someone who's been convicted 158 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: of a capital offense and they're set to be executed, 159 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: and very frequently you have last minute appeals that are filed. 160 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you when I was a law clerk. 161 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: I was a law clerk for Chief Justice Renquist in 162 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety seven, and at the time, 163 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: so this gives you a sense, you can now make 164 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: a crack about how old I am at the time. 165 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: The way we would get these emergency appeals is they 166 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: would be faxed in, so they weren't emailed at the time. 167 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: They'd be faxed in and you'd get it off the 168 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: facts and you would get say, if the midnight was 169 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: if the execution was scheduled to happen at midnight, and 170 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: by the way, if it was midnight on the West coast, 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: that meant it was three am in d C. But 172 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: if the execution was scheduled at midnight, you would get 173 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: sometimes one hundred page appeal faxed in at ten thirty pm. 174 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: And what would happen. So what plays out when that 175 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: gets faxed in is is the justice who is the 176 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: lead justice for that circuit. So each circuit, each region 177 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: of the country has a lead justice who is the 178 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: justice to whom emergency appeals go. Initially, Chief Justice Renquest 179 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: was the lead justice for the fourth circuit was concerned 180 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: death penalty appeals, and so that was Virginia, North Carolina, 181 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: South Carolina, Maryland, West Virginia, and Virginia in particularly there 182 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: were fair number capital cases. So you would get it 183 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: facts to you, you as the law clerk, would read 184 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: through it. You'd have to read through it very quickly. 185 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: You'd have to prepare a memo, write a memo, you 186 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: then send it to your justice, and a lot of times, 187 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: if this was at midnight or one or two or 188 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: three in the morning, you'd have to call home and 189 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: wake your justice up. Your Justice would be asleep. You'd 190 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: call home, you'd say, Chief, we had an emergency appeal. 191 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: Now. 192 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: Now the Justice would know there was a execution set 193 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: that night, and so would know that there is likely 194 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: to be a call. But you'd call, wake your justice 195 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: up and ask, Okay, here's the arguments, here's what I 196 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: think about it. And you would write a memo from 197 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: your justice saying summarizing the arguments in the appeal and 198 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: making the recommendation. So for Chief Justice Renquist, in virtually 199 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: every circumstance, if someone was seeking to halt an execution 200 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: at the last minute, he would recommend that that be denied. 201 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: You would then forward it to the other eight chambers. 202 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: To the other eight chambers, and there was a law clerk, 203 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: So in the night of execution, at least nine of 204 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: us were there till midnight or one or two or 205 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: three in the morning. And so when you would forward 206 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: your memo, in a memo in a case like this, 207 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: would be anywhere from two to maybe eight pages, depending 208 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: on how complicated the issues were. They would then get 209 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: your memo, and they've gotten the appeal as well, so 210 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: they're reading the appeal at the same time. They would 211 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: then call their justice, wake him or her up at home, 212 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: and they would cast votes at midnight or one or 213 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: two or three in the morning. And a strategy that 214 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: is still quite frequent when it comes to death penalty 215 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: appeals is just throw so much crap at the wall 216 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: that they're hoping that justices say, I don't know, I 217 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: can't figure this out this quickly, all right, just stay 218 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 3: the execution, halt the execution so we can figure this 219 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: all out. And unfortunately that strategy, that that strategy can work. 220 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: That there may have been some of that that this 221 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: was being done over Easter weekend very quickly, and it 222 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: may be that the justices wanted to say, hold on 223 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: a second, we want to understand what's going on here. 224 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: That's possible, but I do think the democrats entire strategy 225 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: is try to see if they can get a majority 226 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court ticked off. And I don't think 227 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: that's happened, but I do think that would be very 228 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: dangerous and harmful if it did happen. 229 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 230 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 231 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. 232 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Now onto story number two. 233 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: Which, by the way, also brings us to another issue 234 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: real quick, and that is, I still can't believe this. 235 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 2: There's a guy that went viral, a Minnesota state employee 236 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: who apparently caused about twenty thousand, or over twenty thousand 237 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: damages to Tesla's I'm going to say that, make it clear, plural, 238 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: not one, but multiple. It has now led to a 239 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: woke liberal district attorney saying, Nah, we don't really want 240 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: to hold this guy accountable. Let's keep the lawlessness up. 241 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: As long as it's against conservatives and Elon Musk and 242 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: Tesla owners. We're fine with that. No big deal, you're 243 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: good man. We're gonna let you basically go on home. 244 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: Well, there is a suspected vandal. He's thirty three years old. 245 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 3: He is a government employee. His name is Dylan Brian Atta, 246 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: and he was allegedly spotted keen multiple Tesla vehicles stripping 247 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: their paint off while walking his dog around the city, 248 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: and he caused over twenty thousand dollars in damage, vandalizing 249 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: half a dozen teslas. So he was doing this over 250 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: and over and over again. And by the way, if 251 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: this guy did this, he's dumb as a stump. Because 252 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: tesla's all have cameras on them that video the person, 253 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: any person who walks up to them, so he's doing 254 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: it on camera. Because leftists number one, they're utter hypocrites. 255 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: So they're claimed to care about the Green New Deal 256 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: or complete lies because they've decided now to attack electric cars. 257 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: Why because they hate Elon Musk. And understand, they hate 258 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: Elon Musk not just because he's now supporting Trump, not 259 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: just because he's now cutting the government. They hate Elon 260 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: Musk because he's a heretic. This is religion, and the 261 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: woke leftist cultural Marxist religion five years ago lionized Elon 262 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Musk and they view him as someone who has betrayed 263 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: the faith. And so this angry government employee, who as 264 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: far as I know, has not lost his job despite 265 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: being a brazen criminal, uh was caught keing and and 266 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: vandalizing six different teslas. And unfortunately, the the Hennemouth County 267 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: District Attorney is a woman named Mary Moriarty, who is 268 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: a left wing George Soros DA and she decided that 269 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: that that that they're not going to go go after her. Uh, 270 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: that that that that they're they're not going to charge him. 271 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: Uh and. 272 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: It is unfortunate. So the chief of police, Minneapolis Police 273 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: Chief Brianohra said that the damage in each case was 274 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: the equivalent of a felony. And the chief said in 275 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: escathing statement on Monday, this is from The New York Post, 276 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: that Moriarty's decision not to bring charges is frustrating for 277 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: his officers in the public. And here's what the police 278 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: chief said quote. The Minneapolis Police Department did its job. 279 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: It identified and investigated a crime trend, identified and arrested 280 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: a suspect, and presented the case file to the Henneman 281 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: County District the Keneman County Attorney's Office for consideration of charges. 282 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: The case impacted at least six different victims and totaled 283 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: over twenty thousand dollars in damage. Any frustration related to 284 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: the charging decision of the Henneman County Attorneys should be 285 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: directed solely at her office. Our investigators are always frustrated 286 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: when the cases they poured their hearts into are declined. 287 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: In my experience, the victims in this these cases often 288 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: feel the same. That's the chief of police and the 289 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: sad reality it is that for leftists today, for elected Democrats, 290 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: they are now openly embracing domestic terrorism. They are now 291 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: openly we played on this podcast before Chuck Schumer refused 292 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: to condemn people fire bombing Tesla dealerships, people throwing molotov 293 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: cocktails at Testa dealerships, people firing guns into tested dealerships. 294 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna be killed. I don't want that to happen. 295 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: I pray it does not happen. But this escalating violence 296 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: is going to lead to a loss of life. And 297 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: the Democrats are celebrating it. And now the left wing 298 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: DA's are saying, hey, you've vandalized cars and we decide 299 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: we don't like the person who owns the company that 300 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: built the car. Well, tough luck, sorry, Ben, We're gonna 301 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: scratch up your car, we're gonna keep it. We're gonna 302 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 3: do thousand dollars of damage and nothing you can do 303 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: about it because we the Democrats, support domestic terrorism. 304 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. And there's also that just scary 305 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: psychological aspect of it. If you know your DA won't 306 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: go after the people that are going after your car, 307 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: is it going to make you more or less likely 308 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: to buy a tesla? That's part of the financial warfare 309 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: against Elon Musk. 310 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: And by the way, what's the DA going to do 311 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: if they commit violence against you? 312 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: What's the DA going to do if they commit violence 313 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: against you? Yeah? 314 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: Like, if this radical leftist is able to vandalize a tesla, 315 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: how about if he walks up and punches the owner 316 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: of the tesla in the face. Yeah, do you have 317 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: any confidence that this left wing nutcase DA is going 318 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: to charge the radical with punching someone in the face. 319 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: Their view is, Hey, if you're punching a tesla owner 320 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: in the face, that's an admirable act of resistance. It 321 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: is lawless. And let me be clear, I disagree with 322 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: the political views of Marxists and communists and leftists, but 323 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: I passionately oppose violence against them. And if anyone engaged 324 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: in violence against a leftist, I would support prosecuting them 325 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: and sending them to jail. Violence is never acceptable. And 326 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: you know what, the Democrats can't say that because they 327 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: support they refuse to condemn the violence against their political 328 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: opponents because it is part of their ideology. And we 329 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: saw that tragically during the Black Lives Matter and Antifa 330 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: riots across the country, where Kamala Harris most strikingly raised 331 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: money to bail out of jail radical Antifa terrorists who 332 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: committed crimes of violence in Minneapolis, same city. Because the 333 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: Democrat Party is a party that supports violence in pursuit 334 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 3: of their remaining in power. 335 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 336 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 337 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: dow the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the 338 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 339 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: story number three of the week you may have missed. 340 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's. 341 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 2: Turn to the Democratic Party in disarray and it's a 342 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: real thing right now and CNN is saying it, so 343 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: don't trust us. CNN having a freak out moment on 344 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: TV with new polling data and here is what they said. 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, this I think is a revolt, a revolt that 346 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: is going on within the Democratic Party right now. Democrats 347 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: and their leaders, I mean, take a look nationally, Hello 348 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: Democrats on dem leaders in Congress, the belief that they 349 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: will do the right thing when it comes to the economy. 350 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: Last year, at this time, eighty percent believe that the 351 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: Democratic leaders in Congress would do the right thing when 352 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: it comes to the economy. Keep in mind this as Democrats, 353 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: look at where we are now. 354 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: That number has been. 355 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: Slashed in half to just thirty nine percent. 356 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: Holy Toledo. 357 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: That is the lowest number by far in Gallup polling. 358 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 4: The lowest previous was just sixty percent, which is twenty 359 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: one points higher than this. Democrats hate, hate, hate, hate 360 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 4: what they're congressional leaders in Washington are doing right now 361 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: on the key issue of the day, the economy, and 362 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: their confidence has fallen through the floor. Mister Berman, all. 363 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: Right, Chuck Schumer is the Senate Democratic leader right now. 364 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 5: How we're feelings about him, particularly in New York. 365 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go to the state of New York. It's 366 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: what's always on my mind. Right, We're in the state 367 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: of New York right now. New York Democrats on Chuck 368 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: Schumer view him favorably. In December of twenty twenty four, 369 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: that was just a few months ago. It was seventy 370 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: three percent. Look at where that number has fallen to 371 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: in just a few months. It is now down to 372 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: just fifty two percent. That is the lowest I could 373 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 4: ever find and see on a college on how democrats 374 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 4: in Chuck Schumer's home state knew him. And keep in mind, 375 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: if you're thinking about a primary challenge, it would be 376 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: a few years away. But Alexandiocstio Cortes's favorable writing among 377 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: Democrats is considerably higher in the sixties, so he is 378 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: doing quite poorly in his own home state. 379 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 6: Of New York. 380 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: I never thought i'd see the day in which just 381 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: fifty two percent of New York Democrats with you Chuck 382 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: Schumer favorably. It's almost unfathomable. 383 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost un fathomable. Now here's the takeaway for me, Senator. 384 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 2: The fact that AOC has a higher approval rating than 385 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer means the Democratic Party is dead. The Socialist, 386 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: Marxist and Communists have taken it over, and now they're 387 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: out with these old guys. 388 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: We also saw. 389 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: One of your colleagues, Dick Durbin, hanging it up, saying 390 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm out of here, I'm not running for reelection. 391 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: Well, what is stunning about that is a couple of things. 392 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: Number One, as they're relaying poll numbers that show Democrats 393 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: unhappy with the Democrat leadership in Congress. The reason they're 394 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: unhappy is they think Chuck Schumer is not crazy enough. 395 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: They think of Keem Jeffries is not crazy enough. The 396 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: problem and end. Listen, We're in a very polarized society. 397 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: Both both sides are pulling further and further apart. But 398 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: people that identify as partisan Democrats, they hate Donald Trump. 399 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not quite sure what they want Chuck Schumer 400 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 3: to be doing. Maybe lighting himself on fire on the 401 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: Senate floor, running around naked, screaming at the top of 402 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: his lungs. I don't know, you know, maybe they just 403 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: want him to join AOC and Bernie Sanders on their 404 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: Fight the Oligarchy tour. Oh to be clear, they're flying 405 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: around in private jets to fight the oligarchy, which actually 406 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: may symbolize today's Democrat Party more than anything else. They 407 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: could do to get off their private jet and stand 408 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: up and say fight the oligarchy. And by the way, 409 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: George Soros, thanks for the money. But the Democrats want 410 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: their elected leaders to be even more crazy that. And 411 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 3: this is after four years of absolute shambles of the 412 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: Obama administration. And what's striking also about that clip you 413 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: played is CNN, which is a propaganda outlet for the 414 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: Democrat Party, is panicking that they can't believe it. They 415 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: are terrified. The media is in desarray. You mentioned Dick Durbin, 416 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: the Democrat Center from Illinois, announced he was not running 417 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: for reelection. Look, Dick Durbin is the number two Democrat 418 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: in the entire Senate. He is number two only to Schumer, 419 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: and he's calling it quits. He is also the top, 420 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: the ranking member, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. 421 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: Used to be the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. 422 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: And so they gut senior Democrats that are saying, get 423 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: me out of this place. 424 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: Well, and by the way, he said something that was 425 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: really interesting, how low the bar has fallen. So Dick 426 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: Durbin's excuse for why he is not running for reelection was, 427 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: in essence, well, I don't want to become Joe Biden. 428 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: And he put it this way in the interview. 429 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: Listen, a senator yesterday, after you made your announcement that 430 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 5: you would not be seeking reelection, there are number of 431 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 5: Democrats who privately really applauded your choice, saying that it 432 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 5: was that it was something the right thing to do, 433 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: to step aside and perhaps let a younger generation of 434 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: politicians step to the forefront. We know the idea of 435 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 5: democratic elected officials and age has been a hot topic 436 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 5: in recent years. Do you hope do you are we 437 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 5: without thinking? Do you think it is time now for 438 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 5: younger politicians, the next generation to come forward? 439 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Well? 440 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 7: I think this it's more complex. It is not just 441 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 7: a question of a number, what your age is. Look 442 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 7: at Bernie Sanders, for God's sake, still drawing thousands and 443 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 7: thousands of people out for rallies and he's a few 444 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 7: years older than I am. The bottom line is are 445 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 7: you competent? Can you still do the job? That's the 446 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 7: question the voter should ask. But should a new generation 447 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 7: be interested in public service? You bet. I've spent my 448 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 7: time in office trying to encourage younger people to get involved. 449 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: Senator Durban it's Ali Vitally. I wonder if I can 450 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 6: pick up on something you just said, this idea of 451 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 6: are you competent? Are you able to do this job? 452 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 6: In the Senate? As you see this push from the 453 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 6: grassroots that Lamir is talking about here, do you think 454 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 6: enough of your colleagues are asking themselves those fundamental questions 455 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 6: about if they can continue to serve. 456 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 7: I think so. I think if you're honest about yourself 457 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 7: and your reputation, you want to leave when you can 458 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 7: still walk out the front door and not be carried 459 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 7: out the back door. 460 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you hear that, and it's basically saying, well, 461 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to pull at Joe Biden, and other 462 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: people need to look at this as well. He was 463 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: a I think, clearly knocking Joe Biden and what he 464 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: just said as. 465 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: Well well, And nobody in that discussion acknowledge that Dick 466 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: Durbin spent four years lying to the American people saying 467 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden was not senile, that he was mentally 468 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: capable to do the job. By the way, CNN spent 469 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: four years lying to the American people screaming that it 470 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: was a conspiracy theory to point out what is obviously 471 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: true and was obviously true then that Biden's mental capacity 472 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: was severely diminished. I will say this, and actually it 473 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: might surprise you. I'm going to say something nice about Durbin. 474 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: So I've served with Durbin for thirteen years. On the 475 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: Senate Judiciary Committee, and I'll tell you what I tell 476 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: any nominees that are coming before Judiciary, I tell them 477 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: durban is the single most dangerous Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, 478 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: because I think he's the smartest Democrat, and he is 479 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: radical and extreme, but he's very good at sounding reasonable. 480 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: There are other Democrats that are radical and extreme, as 481 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: Sheldon white House and Adam Schiff, but they sound like 482 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: lunatics when they're ranting. Everyone knows their lunatics. Part of 483 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: what makes Durbin such a dangerous questioner for Republican nominees 484 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: or Republican witnesses is he's very good at masking his 485 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: extreme policies in ways that sound much more reasonable than 486 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: his colleagues. And so I will say for Democrats, seeing 487 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: Durbin hang it up is a real loss to them. 488 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 489 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to dial 490 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 491 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict, or each 492 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to 493 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again. Ben Ferguson Podcasts, 494 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.