1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia, Judice Davy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hi, guys, 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. Today, we 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: are joined by the women who truly see it all 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: the backbone of every sorority house. They run the show, 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: keep the chaos somewhat under control, and somehow know everything 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: before anyone else does. We are talking about sorority house moms, 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: or they are officially known house directors. Trust me, nothing 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: gets past them. All right, let me get into it. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: Well first, my, so we're going back now, guys, to 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. So I did have a house mom 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: at University of Texas at the AFI House. And the 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: only name I know that she has is Aunt Millie. 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: So that's what we called her, and I feel like 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: her name almost completely describes her. She was like an aunt, 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: like an older aunt, and from what I remember, I'm 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: sorry at Millie. She was a little stuffy, a little strict, 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: and she was there in a motherly capacity. I don't 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: think she was a house mom that let's say we 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: ran to with our boy problems per se. She was 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: just really trying to control the chaos that is a 22 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: sorority house. But our guests are fabulous. They are going 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: to give you the dirt and talk a little bit 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: about how they got into this line of business. So okay, 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and bring in our first house director, 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: and her name is c. C. Calvo. Welcome, Hi, How 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: are you here? 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm good? 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Are you sure you are a director of a house 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: because you look like you're you should be in a house. 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: I get that so often of that. 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: I started out when I was twenty seven, So just 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: imagine how much younger I look now. 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Then wait, you're older than twenty seven. 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm thirty nine. 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Look at you, well done, you look twenty two. 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Genetics. 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying before we brought you in that 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: my house mother, which is what we called her back 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight. Her name was Aunt Millie and 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: she did not look like Ceci, and I just tried 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: to picture how, first of all, how did this happen? 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: How did you get this job? Tell me a little bit. 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: So so I started out, I am a serty woman. 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't a chapter advisor for my chapter back home 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: in Miami, and we were at a training that happened 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: to coincide with a training for house corporations and house directors, 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: And at some point in conversation we were all done 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: with the weekend and at the airport, I had been 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: saying how much I loved interacting with the women as 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 4: an advisor, and I wish that there was kind of 53 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: a different way to interact with them and just be 54 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: more involved. And someone from a housing corporation was like, 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: you know, you'd make such a great house bomb, and 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: I was I looked around. 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: I was like me, I'm like, I mean, isn't that 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: like typically. 59 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: One for someone older at like Millie? 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 4: And I wanted to choose my words very carefully because 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: she was an older woman, and she was like, we know, 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: traditionally that's what we've always had, is the older house directors. 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: But one thing we talked about this weekend was how 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: a younger house director has a lot of benefits you 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: understand the. 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: Generation a little bit more. And I had to take 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: a pause and be like, yeah, that's technically true. 69 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: There's sometimes I question writings, right, But the other thing 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 4: is like liability. 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: You know, you are so good at. 72 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: You know, if you break your leg in the house, 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: like you're gonna keep working. And I was like, it's 74 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: sad that you know that. And she was like, but 75 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: an older person like the And I was like, oh, 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: they might break their hip or something. 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: And be out. She's like, well, that's a lot worse. 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that took a darker turn 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: than I am thought. 80 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 81 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I started looking into it and it 82 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: just kind of happened. 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Wow. So just so I'm clear, So are you a 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: housemum for the same sorority that you were a member of? Oh, 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: but I have been Okay, so you've moved around a 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: little bit. 87 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I moved around a little bit. I've worked in 88 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: California for two years. I did two years in New 89 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: Jersey actually at Rutgers in New Brunswick at Zeta where 90 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: Gia was a member. 91 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: So I was. 92 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: I was the house director the year before. 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: She got missed her. 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: I just missed her, but I did get me. 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: So when I got to me Teresa when she did 96 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: her book tour and was going around, and I worked 97 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: for another organization in Orlando, Florida, and now I'm in 98 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: North Carolina. 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, so this is not just a job for you. 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: You're not just segueing into something else. 101 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: This is your career, this is my career currently. 102 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: I guess it puts a new spin on it on 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: being a house director because of Ann Millie. I think 104 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: that is a woman who's maybe retired and I, you know, 105 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: really sort of vary into sorority or Greek life or 106 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: was in their heyday. But this is a different thing. 107 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Are more women your age becoming interested in doing this? 108 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: We are seeing a really big uptick in younger house directors. 109 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: The campus that I'm currently at actually has a majority 110 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: of house directors that are in their early thirties. And 111 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: I have been my experience has always been the older 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 4: house directors on campuses. 113 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: I've been the youngest at. 114 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: The last three campuses by at least twenty five. 115 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: Thirty years, right. 116 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: So it's been. 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: Really refreshing to see kind of younger house directors joining 118 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 4: and really being a part of it and using it 119 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: as a stepping stone either to get into some sort 120 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: of housing position within their national organizations or national organization, 121 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 4: or just to really get the experience and kind of 122 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: like figure out if this is something that they. 123 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 3: Want to continue doing. 124 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Wow, So do you think it is something you want 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: to continue doing. 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: I definitely do. 127 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: I've loved it so far. I've been a house director 128 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 4: for about eleven years. This fall, I did take a 129 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 4: year off when I had a family member passed away. 130 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: That was a little hard for me to kind of 131 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: want to dedicate another year. But I came back into 132 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: it and I was in my last house for the 133 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: last five years and then decided I needed to change 134 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: and moved up and I'm closer to family now. So 135 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: it's really nice and it definitely has its ups and downs, 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: but it's such a great job, especially if you love 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: connecting with college age members. 138 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: Well, tell me, like, what does your job look like 139 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: on a daily Like what's a typical day. 140 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: So a typical day can be really a lot of 141 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: different things. You're either super busy to the point where 142 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: like there have been days where I am NonStop from 143 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: like seven in the morning to like nine o'clock at night, 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: or even past that when the members have socials, and 145 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: I'll forget to eat, Like there have been days where 146 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: I've forgotten to grab lunch and I have to like 147 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: stop myself and be like, wait, did I only am 148 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: I only surviving off of coffee. Is that what's. 149 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: Happening right now, right right, But. 150 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: It can be anything from you know, morning meetings with 151 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 4: having vendors coming out, plumbers, hvac work, checking in with 152 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: the staff. I like to do that a couple times 153 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: a day, just to make sure that you know, housekeeping 154 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: is up to date. At the kitchen, I would like 155 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: to check in make sure they have everything they need. 156 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: If there's anything that they need me. 157 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: To go get for them, or the members need anything, 158 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: I can go out and run errands. 159 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: And then there's some days. 160 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: Where you're just sitting here waiting for something to happen. 161 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how much would you say, what's the percentage 162 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: of the logistic part of your job, like you know, 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: making sure that hv is working, as opposed like being 164 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: there for the girls. I mean I would think that 165 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that involved as well, right, And 166 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: also I'm picturing that you have to you're sort of 167 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: the disciplinarian kind of kind of okay. 168 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of being a house director is, yes, 169 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: it's really the property management aspect of it. You are 170 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: taking care of the physical house, making sure it's running correctly, 171 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: but a large part of it is also the members. 172 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: Not every organization has their house directors as involved, but 173 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 4: I have always wanted to make sure that my number 174 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: one job is the health, safety and well being of 175 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: the members. 176 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: That is the end all be all for me. I 177 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: need to make sure that. 178 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: They are happy and healthy because it causes me a 179 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: lot less problems, right And I love to interact with 180 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: them and help them out with events if they need it, 181 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: or help them with you know, I've done anything from 182 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: like tutoring members in Spanish to just going and supporting 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: them when they invite me to things. I think that's 184 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: probably my favorite part, is when they go out of 185 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: their way to invite you to make sure that they 186 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 4: want you there to support them. 187 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because you are such a great age 188 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I would think for in terms of like having a 189 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: friendship with these girls, is it a hard line ever? 190 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: Because you know they probably want to hang out with 191 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: you and get wasted and you know, oh yeah, do 192 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: so do you have to sort of, you know, maintain 193 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: an era of professionalism or can you kind of have 194 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: some fun with them? 195 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 4: And I've always from my chapter advisor days, again, I'm 196 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: a very much younger person and always been close in 197 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: age with the members that I'm dealing with. So I've 198 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 4: always been friendly but not friends, right and. 199 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Let them know. 200 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: And I always say that in the beginning when I 201 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: meet with them, it's like I can be your best 202 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: friend or your worst enemy. 203 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: The choice is yours. At the end of the day. 204 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not here to be best friends with 205 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: you guys, and you know, like Brady each other's hair 206 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: and stuff. 207 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: But I do always want the members to feel comfortable 208 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: coming to talk to me, and I tell them that, 209 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: you know, if you guys want to come talk to me, 210 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: and if it's something sort of related or school related 211 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: or personal, like if you just need somebody to listen. 212 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: To you, my door is always open. My door is 213 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: always open. 214 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: You are welcome to come and talk to me, and 215 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: I can literally just listen. And if you need me 216 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: to give you advice or suggestions, we can work together 217 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: on that. If it's just you just need somebody to 218 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: listen to you, I'm just here to hear. 219 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: So it sounds like we say house director now not 220 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: house mom, which certainly makes sense in this occasion. But 221 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: my question is do you feel like a mom sometimes? 222 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine that you are rallying all 223 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: of these let's I mean, let's call them kids for 224 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: our purposes. What are they? Sometimes they are what nineteen. 225 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're between the ages of like eighteen and twenty one, 226 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: twenty two sometimes. 227 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 228 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: The title really changes and it's really dependent on the person. 229 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: A lot of house directors when I first started, referred 230 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: to it as like oh, house mom, or they were 231 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: like mom B or mom. 232 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: D you know. 233 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: And I was twenty seven, twenty eight years old, and 234 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: I was like, I. 235 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: Am no one's mom. 236 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah right, And so when we settled on my first house, 237 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: we settled on my nickname was HD because house director 238 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: is the formal title and I wasn't. I didn't want 239 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: to be a mom anything, and so we settled on HD. 240 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: I've gone by my full name, Cecilia. At my previous house, 241 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: I was CC. Here I miss CC. So we just 242 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 4: added a little formality to it because we're in the South. Ye, 243 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: So it's been It definitely has this moments where you 244 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: have to kind of remember, like you're you're an adult, 245 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: or as my girls one time called it, you're the 246 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 4: adult adult in the house. 247 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, good, I like that. Have you ever 248 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: had a moment when you have to like step in 249 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: and you didn't feel maybe because you are a certain 250 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: age capable of hand of handling you know, these young 251 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: women's issues. I would think that it would be I mean, 252 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: it's overwhelming for me at age fifty seven sometimes and 253 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: my kids are a little older than college age now. 254 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: But do you feel equipped to handle, you know, everything 255 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: that gets thrown at you. I would think it would 256 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: be challenging at times. 257 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: I definitely feel like there's been times where I shouldn't 258 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: or I don't think I was capable of handling something, 259 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: and I will try very hard to acknowledge that where 260 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is above my pay grade. There's some 261 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: things that I'm equipped to deal with as the house director, 262 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: and there's some things that I'm not, And I will 263 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: outsource it to the you know, the housing corporation or 264 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: the Chapter Advice and just you know, send it off 265 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: through and just be like, hey, this came to me, 266 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 267 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: What to do. 268 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: What would you like me to do? And what are 269 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: these situations like? And I've had a myriad of things 270 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: from mental health issues to sexual assault confessions, and you 271 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: just kind of have to deal with it. I try 272 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: and do training as much as I can. And we 273 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: do have a house director's conference that I like to attend. 274 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: I try and attend every summer just because it helps 275 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: me reset and I get to share with other house directors, 276 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: either my age or older and learn from their experiences 277 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: and kind of have that back and forth. And it 278 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: really does give me like a mental and physical like 279 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,239 Speaker 4: reset button before I start. 280 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: My next semester. 281 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm wondering though, like what is your life like 282 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: living in the house. Are you able to have your 283 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: own social life? I don't know, Like, you know, you're 284 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: going out on dates two unless I don't know if 285 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: you're married or no? No, so are you dating? You're 286 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: living in the house? You have you know your own 287 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Can you have a pet in the house for the 288 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: listeners that may be interested in doing something like this? 289 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 5: I do. 290 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: I actually have my This is Louie b. He is 291 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: my animal companion and has been for the last fifteen years. Oh, 292 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: this is the second house that I've been allowed to 293 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 4: have him at when I'm not when I haven't been 294 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 4: in a house where he's allowed, I usually have him 295 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: with my parents. My mom takes care of him during 296 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 4: the year and for the most part, for. 297 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Ten months out of the year, I am this is 298 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: my life. 299 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 4: I will still have times where I can go out 300 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: and socialize and hang out with friends. I try and 301 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: keep that to like evenings and sparingly and on the weekends, 302 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: especially because most of the time the members are off 303 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: having fun going to the beach or like hanging out 304 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: with their friends are going home. So I mean, I'll 305 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: try and make time for myself to go and just 306 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: distress because it can be really difficult. Like you said, 307 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: we live here in the house and another house director 308 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: and I were just talking about this the other day. 309 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: You know, when we get upset or when some we 310 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 4: have a bad day, our staff is lucky they get 311 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: to go home and you know, throw things and just 312 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,239 Speaker 4: like decompress. We this is our home, like our apartments, 313 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: our suites are usually in the house. We can't exactly 314 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: throw a temper tantrum and slam the door because. 315 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: Our problems are on the other side of that door. 316 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: We just have to find ways of like you know, 317 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: resetting and just escaping the house for a little bit, 318 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: even if it's just going for a walk around the 319 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: campus or in my case, I have again, like I said, 320 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: I have family nearby, so on the weekends, I'll go 321 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: hang out with my cousins, or we'll have family dinner 322 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: once a month. 323 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: So I'll make sure. 324 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: To just keep leave my schedule open for that so 325 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: that I know I can have some time just be 326 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: normal and kind of get away from the house and. 327 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: Have that break. 328 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you see this as I'm not talking about 329 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: you personally necessarily, but like as a long term career 330 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: for a woman who because it's so it's such a 331 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: specific thing, right, You're living in a submerty house with 332 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of young women. You don't have your own 333 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: space except for your room, I would think, or you're stained, 334 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it would be like to 335 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: even have a relationship in a situation like this. I 336 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: don't think that any house directors can have a significant other? 337 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Can they? Is that allowed? 338 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: They can? They can? 339 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: In fact, yeah, when I was a new member twenty 340 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: something years ago of my sorority, I actually there was 341 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: a chapter that I was very familiar with that had 342 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: a house mom and house dad. 343 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: Really she was married. 344 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: Her husband basically was the maintenance worker, I like, the 345 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: handyman basically for the house and in the current organization 346 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: I work at, they actually allow you to have a spouse. 347 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 348 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: They're not allowed to be on the meal plan like 349 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: you are, but they are allowed to like live in 350 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: with you, and they are subject to the same rules 351 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: you are. They allowed to basically stay in the suite 352 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: and then just go in and out, but not like 353 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: free range. 354 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: Of the house. 355 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Wow. What do you think is the most rewarding part 356 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: of being a house director? 357 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 358 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: I love I love it the end of your time 359 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: with them, when they're ready to graduate, when they thank 360 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: you and you realize you don't you know, a lot 361 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: of the time, we don't realize how much of an 362 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: impact the little time that we have with them makes. Right, 363 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: But when they do graduate, or when they do tell you, 364 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: like you you saying this did so much for me, Like, 365 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: you don't know how much this meant to me. 366 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: I have had a number of experiences that way. 367 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: When I left my most recent house, I got so 368 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: many letters that the women of the chapter and I 369 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: cried so hard. 370 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh well, they're all very lucky young women. Thank you 371 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: so much for coming on CC. All right, you guys, 372 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: So next we have Crystal. Hi. 373 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: Hi. 374 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: We're excited to have you, and apparently you have been 375 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: a house director for six years at an ACC school. 376 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 6: Correct, I had, right, Yes, I've also worked at Big 377 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: Ten as well. 378 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Well, like our guest right before you, you look 379 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: way too young to have been doing this for that long. 380 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 381 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Tell us please a little bit about how you got 382 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: into this. How did you become a house director? 383 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 6: Yeah? 384 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. My trajectory is a little unique. 385 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 6: Because I think I was getting my master's at university 386 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 6: in the North, so Big Ten at the time, and 387 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 6: part of the work that you do for a master's 388 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 6: program is you do have something that's called an assistant ship, 389 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 6: and so that was a resident director role for a 390 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 6: sorority organization I was there, So that was the Big Ten. 391 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 6: I worked for a university owned house for about two 392 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 6: years there and then transition to what is like formerly 393 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 6: known as like a house director role to another organization 394 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 6: right at that exact same campus and work there for 395 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 6: another two years, and then I made my way back 396 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 6: to the South which is home for me, to ACC 397 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: school and have been in this role for about four 398 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 6: years now. 399 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Cool. What do you think is the hardest part and 400 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: what do you think is the most fun part? Of 401 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: doing this. 402 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 6: Hardest part is I think you having to strike well, 403 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 6: I'll say two things, probably striking a balance of like 404 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 6: my own personal life and the professional space and reputation 405 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 6: that I want to have. And so by that I 406 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 6: mean you live in with the women. That's not every 407 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 6: house director's experience. Some have like houses that are adjacent. 408 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 6: Some are just like more stop in property management type roles. 409 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 6: But for those of us who are in the fire 410 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 6: together living in with the women, you're living with you know, 411 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 6: forty to one hundred, you know, depending on how large 412 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: the house can hold collegiate women, and you know they 413 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 6: have their moments, and so I think just trying to 414 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 6: again know that you have to kind of be on 415 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 6: the moment that you step out of your suite, which 416 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: is you know, pretty visible. Girls can access you twenty 417 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 6: four to seven. And so I think it's just again 418 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 6: making sure that I have hobbies, I have interests that 419 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 6: if it's something educationally I want to pursue, that I'm 420 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 6: doing those things for myself, if it's connecting with family, 421 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 6: that I'm still doing those things. I think sometimes my 422 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 6: family can get like weirded out trying. 423 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: To come and visit me because it's like, yeah, seven 424 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: hundred people that they every single time. 425 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 6: That they're come to the house, but when they sit 426 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 6: down and have dinner with me and it's like, oh, 427 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 6: you have a private chef, I'm like, yes, I do 428 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 6: have a lot of great. 429 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Perks for that. 430 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: Really bad, Okay, it's not. 431 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 2: It's not. I don't have a grocery build and that 432 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: feels good. 433 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: Not yeah, not bad And hopefully you don't rent so 434 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: and all that is a plus. 435 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 436 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: So what about are you in a relationship? Can I 437 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: ask you? Are? Okay? So how do you balance that? 438 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 6: Somebody like myself who's had a long term partner, the 439 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 6: women get used to their presence at the house, right, 440 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 6: and so they're not necessarily a stranger. But I could 441 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 6: imagine somebody navigating dating and that being a well, this 442 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 6: is my space, but it's a shared space. And so 443 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 6: I think you got to get clear on the policies. 444 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 6: You gotta get clear with the house corporation what the 445 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: dos and don'ts are a lot of I will say 446 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 6: for my work, university owned housing have live in partner policies. 447 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 6: You sign in a dindum where you have your partner 448 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 6: have a background check. 449 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: So they go through all the kind. 450 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 6: Of jump holes and bells and whistles, if you will, 451 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 6: to make sure operationally and liability wise. 452 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: Everybody's covered and everybody's get to go. 453 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 6: But it's a benefit to have a suite that is 454 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 6: just dedicated to me and my space, and I get 455 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 6: to decorate at how I want and all those things. 456 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: And I've been fortunate my House Corporation has furnished it, 457 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 6: so you know, my partner will come here. We tend 458 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 6: not to be in other spaces outside of the dining 459 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: room when they're like events that the girls have put 460 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 6: on philanthropy for example. But you know, this is what 461 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 6: I will always say about house directors. I'm like, live 462 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 6: your life, like, have your relationships again, do the things 463 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 6: that bring you joy, because your life is so much 464 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 6: of the work and you can't really escape it, right. 465 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: Because you live. 466 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: I wonder like, does that make it in terms of 467 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: moving forward moving through the years. Is this something that 468 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: you think you can do long term? Is it that 469 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: kind of a career or is it something that you 470 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: are always thinking of next steps? 471 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: I think for me it has been a bit of both. 472 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 6: So I think coming from getting my masters again doing 473 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 6: student affairs work like I can absolutely make this a career. 474 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: I can stay within a house director role. 475 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 6: I can jump to different universities throughout, so I can 476 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 6: again just a mass I think, and have greater chapter 477 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 6: sizes if you will, right, going Tobama right, that kind 478 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 6: of thing, I think is progression because you're dealing with 479 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 6: a larger house, you're dealing with different staff. But I 480 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 6: also think you can kind of segue into national officer 481 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 6: roles for different organizations. 482 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: Right. 483 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 6: There are a lot of property manager roles that will 484 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 6: go to each house and kind of help to guide 485 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 6: and take care of the house directors there, so that 486 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 6: can be a segue too. I think for me, I'm 487 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 6: probably going to do something different if that's continuing to 488 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 6: work up my way in terms of higher education and 489 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: student affairs work. I don't think this will be the 490 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 6: end all, be all, but I am so grateful to 491 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 6: have the experience because I don't pay rent. I am 492 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 6: close proximity to the downtown area where I live at. 493 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: I love this chapter to death and they have been honestly, 494 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 6: the three that I've worked for, they're really great. 495 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: What makes what makes them better the best store? 496 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 6: Honestly, I think the girl one I was navigating the 497 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 6: pandemic with a couple of the and that everybody was 498 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 6: just losing. 499 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: And so, yeah, it is is brutal. 500 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 6: It's not the kind of sisterhood that they wanted to 501 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 6: curate for themselves, right, And then others were just wild 502 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 6: and I'm like, y'all are giving me a headache. I 503 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 6: don't want to deal with all of your foolishness. All 504 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 6: I want so this, this group has been really awesome, 505 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 6: and I'm close to family, which is so grounding for me. 506 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: Right, that's so nice. So without asking you this personally, 507 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: so let's just say big picture, it would be good 508 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: money and being a house director. 509 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 510 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 6: I think if you can find I'll say the ideal 511 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 6: situation is maybe you have a part time house director 512 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 6: role and you have an on campus. 513 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Or other job. 514 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: Right. 515 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 6: I have known and worked with house directors who are 516 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 6: also nurses, house directors who are also police officers, house 517 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 6: directors who had other campus jobs, right, And so I 518 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 6: think you can really make it work for you. Those 519 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 6: are probably the lower end of the pay scale, but yeah, 520 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 6: I will say you can have full time pay and salary, 521 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 6: you can have great benefits depending on how the university 522 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 6: has structured the relationship or if the national organization has 523 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 6: those things in place. So yeah, I do think it 524 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 6: can be really good money. It's not the most well 525 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 6: paid job, but you got to think about I think 526 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: the additional benefits ran all of the things, the. 527 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: Food and going to save money for. 528 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 6: A house for your own house, right, not just And 529 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 6: I will also say every time the women leave, I'm like, 530 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: I have a mansion, so that feels great. 531 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Bye, enjoy your spring break far, get out of here. 532 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: Don't let the divide bull of the door. Here are 533 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: you well? Listen, thank you so much for coming on. 534 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: We really have enjoyed talking to you. I wish that 535 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: I had had a house director like you as a 536 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: pupposed to the sort of crotchety older woman that I had. 537 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: But anyway, enjoy doing what you're doing. And thank you 538 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. Dirty rush. All right you guys. 539 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: So now our next guest is miss Ashley. Hi Ashley, Hey, 540 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: how are you well? How are you doing? 541 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 7: Doing pretty good? 542 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: I say, Miss Ashley. I'm assuming you're not a missus 543 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: because you look very young to me also to be 544 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: a house director. But can I ask you how old. 545 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 7: You are sure? Yes, I'm twenty four years old. 546 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: Wow, are you sure You've been out of college barely? 547 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 5: I got went into my master's program right out of 548 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: undergrad so yeah, I'm only two years postgrad. 549 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: So your masters. You're getting your master's in Yes. 550 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 7: I'm getting my master's in public health. 551 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you are you're doing this? You're a house 552 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: director and you're getting your master's at the same time. Yes, correct, 553 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: busy girl. Yes, he's a young lady. Yes, young woman. Wow. 554 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean I just I'm looking at you and I 555 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: just can't help but think that you must have some 556 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: stories to tell. 557 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I was in a sorority for four years 558 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: and now have been the house director for just one year. 559 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: But I'm the house director at the same school that 560 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: I was. 561 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: Get out. Wait, okay, so what was your house director 562 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: like when you were in the house. 563 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 7: She was nice. She was a little older than me. 564 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 7: She was around sixty. 565 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm so older. 566 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't have like a close relationship by any means, 567 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 5: but you know, she was she was there and around, and. 568 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 7: She was a little silly, a little sillyer than me. 569 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: I think, how do you think you're doing it? Differently. 570 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: What is I mean, it's obvious to me that these 571 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, these young women are going to look at 572 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: you differently than they did a sixty year old woman. 573 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: But do you think you're Are you closer to them 574 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: than maybe your house director was to you? Is do 575 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: you think it's easier to be your age more difficult? 576 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? 577 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: I think that there's only pros and cons. I think 578 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: I am a little bit closer with them. I was 579 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: a senior when they were freshmen the members that live 580 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 5: in the house currently, so we already kind of had 581 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: this established relationship before I came into the house director role. 582 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 5: And yeah, I definitely think it makes us closer. They're 583 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: a lot more comfortable with me, and you know, can 584 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: come to me if they need things, and you know, 585 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 5: I friends is like, maybe, you know, not the right 586 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 5: word because there has to be some boundaries. But we're 587 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 5: definitely very comfortable with each other. But then you know, 588 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: sometimes it can't make it hard when you have to 589 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 5: draw a boundary of being in a place of authority, 590 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: it's a little bit different. 591 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: Do they want you to party with them? Do they 592 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: try to get you too? 593 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 7: They asked me. 594 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 5: Sometimes I can't ever tell if they're being serious or not. 595 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 5: But that is actually one thing I don't do. 596 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 597 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: I don't party with them at all, but they do. 598 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 5: They do invite me out sometimes. 599 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll bet they do. I'll bet they do. So Okay, 600 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit in terms of what 601 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: you're doing every day, because is it a lot of 602 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: just sort of being there for the girls, talking them 603 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: through stuff, or being a disciplinarian, or is it more 604 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: We talked to a couple of other house directors. They 605 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: are running the house, so they are in charge of 606 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: the maintenance of the house and the employees, and so 607 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: you're doing all of that as well. 608 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 609 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 5: So our chapter is around I think like two hundred 610 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 5: and seventy five members. We have a house obviously on campus, 611 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 5: which is different than some schools. 612 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I kind of do it all. 613 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: We do have a facilities director who's in the chapter, 614 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 5: so they kind of do most of the facilitation with 615 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: the members. But yes, I handle all of the maintenance 616 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: that goes on. Right now, we're getting our house renovated, 617 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 5: so I'm kind of handling a lot of the deliveries 618 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: and meeting with people who have to come look at 619 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: the house. I think we had maybe ten people come 620 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 5: to the house to look at our floors, so meeting 621 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 5: with them every every day when they would come. I'm 622 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: not in charge of the other employees, so our kitchen 623 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: staff or the house cleaner, those are managed separately. But 624 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 5: I do have a good relationship with them too. I 625 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 5: talk to them every day. I normally if they need something. Normally, 626 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: I do make the calls if it has to do 627 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 5: with maintenance specifically, and sometimes I'm a liaison two. 628 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 7: To like the Upper House Corporation. 629 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: Wow, so serious job. This is not a joke. 630 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: It is a lot of work, and I think some 631 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: people don't understand that. 632 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, going into it sounds like a lot of work. 633 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Today I'm learning that it's a lot of work. Tell 634 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: me about I don't know, something crazy that's happened, Something 635 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: funny that's happened. Tell like our listeners want to know, 636 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, they're definitely going to be listening and thinking, 637 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: here is this young, adorable person and she's the house director. 638 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Has anything crazy happened? 639 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 7: I don't know about crazy. 640 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 5: The members really are so sweet and they're so respectful, 641 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: which is really nice. I mean, of course there's things 642 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 5: that go on I'm sure maybe a little bit under 643 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: my nose, but I feel like the craziest thing. Especially 644 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: at our school, the houses are a little bit older, 645 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 5: so it will just be any random day, any random weekend, 646 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: something breaks, something stops working, he goes out, the ac 647 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: goes out, the dishwasher brakes, and you're just like, what 648 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 5: am I supposed to be? I'm like twenty four. 649 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 7: Before, like, I don't know who to call you out 650 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 7: for me? 651 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: Right? 652 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 653 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: Literally, your mom? I do. 654 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 7: Sometimes I think this is actually my job. I need 655 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 7: you know everyone. 656 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: Do you have other house moms you can call? Is 657 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: there any community of house moms? Really? 658 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 7: Definitely, So that's nice. 659 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: Our school has not too many sororities, so the community 660 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 5: is pretty small and they're really nice everyone. Most of 661 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: the other house directors have been here for a little 662 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: bit longer, so they are really open about sharing contacts 663 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: of people that they use, like like recycling people or 664 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 5: past Everyone's really open about sharing who they use, so 665 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: I can always kind of reach out to them, which 666 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 5: is really nice. And then also like my bosses who 667 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 5: work for the chapter, they're always there to help me 668 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 5: to yeah anything, so. 669 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: Right, right, do you see yourself doing this? For a 670 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: long time. 671 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 5: Honestly, no, because I was kind of using this while 672 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 5: I was in grad school to just to help me 673 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: make a little bit more money. 674 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 7: And I'm a stable place to live. 675 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 5: But if I was in like a transitional period, I 676 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 5: totally would keep doing it. And I totally understand why 677 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 5: some like older women who maybe are single and whose 678 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 5: kids have you know, grown up, do it because it 679 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: really does give you a really. 680 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 7: Amazing sense of community. You're never lonely. 681 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you're around time, and it is it is 682 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 5: a really lucky job to have. I think, Yeah, I 683 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: mean it gets you a lot of which is. 684 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: Well, what about your personal life? Is it hard to 685 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Are you single? 686 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 6: No? 687 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 7: I do have a boyfriend, Okay. 688 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: So how is it managing that? Is he allowed to 689 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: come see you at the house? Yeah? 690 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 5: So we are long distance, so it doesn't make it 691 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: too hard just because he's like, we're not in the 692 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: same place all the time. And then the way our 693 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 5: house is set up is I kind of have a 694 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: separate apartment and that has a separate entrance. 695 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 7: So yeah, so he is allowed over, but he has 696 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: to use like. 697 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,239 Speaker 5: That separate entrance and then he's not really allowed to 698 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: be in like the main house without me because our 699 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: house is a public space for members, so they are 700 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: allowed to have guests over in the daytime. So it's 701 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 5: kind of a similar, a similar idea, like he's allowed 702 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: here when he's with me in the day during meals, 703 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 5: but yeah, definitely not allowed like by himself and like 704 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 5: to want for her anything. 705 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, has have you ever had to manage something dangerous 706 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: that's happened? Has there ever been anything where you're like, Okay, 707 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: I am twenty four years old, I can't I mean 708 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: to that. Have you had anything specific you could think of? 709 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: I'm a couple things not really have to do with me, 710 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 5: but I know there was a member who kind of 711 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: had a strange run in with an older man, and 712 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: just we kind of had to like be on the 713 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 5: lookout and just like know that if you know, anyone 714 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 5: approached the house, like trying to like draw a boundary 715 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: of just like don't let anybody in the house that 716 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: you don't know if someone's knocking asking for someone, like 717 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 5: kind of I need to be that first line of 718 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 5: defense almost like I will come and approach them. And 719 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: it does seem a little interesting because you know, I'm 720 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: telling these twenty one year olds to tell me. 721 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 7: A twenty year yeah, you know, like let me know. 722 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 5: So I can kind of deal with it. But I 723 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: mean that's just kind of the job that you have 724 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: to do, like you are still supposed to kind of 725 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 5: be in this you know. 726 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 7: Protective space course, of course. 727 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 5: And I was in an executive position when I was 728 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: in the sorority and undergrad so I think I kind 729 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 5: of already have that mentality of like I've I've had 730 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 5: to kind of what's the word, Like I've had to 731 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 5: be like the face of the chapter before and kind 732 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 5: of like be the first line of right. 733 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: Of course. 734 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm kind of used to it. 735 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: And I don't I don't mind telling a man to 736 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 5: you know, go away. 737 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: Would you recommend this? Do you think this is something 738 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: that you would tell your friends that are maybe just 739 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: graduating that this is you know, a great segue maybe 740 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: into something else, or you would one. 741 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 5: Hundred I have said so many times like I feel 742 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 5: so grateful for the opportunity because it kind of just 743 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 5: worked out timing wise, like our old house director was 744 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 5: changing into a different career and my old advisors just 745 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 5: reached out and was like, Hey, they didn't even ask 746 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 5: me specifically, they were just like, do you know anyone interested? 747 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Right? 748 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 7: And I've been thinking about it and it was. 749 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: Like, you know, this could be a really awesome opportunity, 750 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 5: especially in that school where you know money, money can 751 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 5: be tight. Totally, so I one hundred percent recommend it. 752 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 5: I think maybe you need to know your kind of 753 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 5: personality and what the chapter is like going into it, 754 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 5: and I think it made it easier just being familiar 755 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: with the chapter obviously, but I recommend it, especially young people. 756 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 5: If the chapter is open to having a younger house director. 757 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 5: I think that it makes your relationship really good and 758 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 5: they just trust you a lot. 759 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 7: More and they of course their issues. 760 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you so much, you guys 761 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: for joining us for this episode of Dirty Rush. 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