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Speaker 4: If he has not fallen asleep over there yet, I'd
Speaker 4: like to bring on Filthy Tom Lawler filthy. We could
Speaker 4: start by talking about pro wrestling, and I think we
Speaker 4: should begin by talking about pro wrestling, and we can't
Speaker 4: spend too much time on it. But as far as
Speaker 4: I'm concerned, if two people are throwing down on a
Speaker 4: canvas matt in any form, and they are grappling in
Speaker 4: any way, and they're getting paid, it is professional wrestling,
Speaker 4: especially if they add a whole lot of bells and
Speaker 4: whistles to it.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to.
Speaker 4: The Abu Dhabi Kombat Club shows, you're telling me they
Speaker 4: don't do this, while there's another man named Craig Jones
Speaker 4: which actually brings out to money in the bank briefcases.
Speaker 4: Is this going to be the new Pancras? Is this
Speaker 4: going to be the new Pride? Is this going to
Speaker 4: be the new thing that now threatens professional wrestling?
Speaker 3: Tell me about this.
Speaker 8: I don't think we're at the level where professional grappling
Speaker 8: is going to overtake professional wrestling in any world. However,
Speaker 8: this past weekend, and I'll only take a few minutes
Speaker 8: to mention this because there were such high stakes involved,
Speaker 8: and as a fan and historian of professional wrestling, I
Speaker 8: think that this was a professional wrestling tournament put on
Speaker 8: by Craig Jones. There was certainly a professional wrestling match
Speaker 8: when Craig Jones took on Gabby Garcia and carried her
Speaker 8: for a little bit, well, he pulled guard. She was
Speaker 8: on top for a good portion, but Nikki Rod and
Speaker 8: cad Rutolo both walked away with one million dollars from
Speaker 8: those money in the bank briefcases that you mentioned. This
Speaker 8: was a new.
Speaker 3: Levels a million bucks.
Speaker 8: Yeah each. It was two day competition. It was a
Speaker 8: new level for production and pageantry and trash talk for
Speaker 8: the world of professional grappling. As this Craig Jones Invitational
Speaker 8: went head to head with the traditional world Championships, I
Speaker 8: guess you could say in submission wrestling that is the
Speaker 8: Abu Dhabi Kombat Club, which has been around for I
Speaker 8: believe about maybe thirty almost thirty years. There's been a
Speaker 8: who's who. Virtually everybody has competed in these from Brazilian
Speaker 8: jiu jitsu competitors to judo stars to UFC champions. Many
Speaker 8: of them had varying success along the way. Tito Ortiz,
Speaker 8: a former medallist which not a lot of people know about.
Speaker 8: The great Marcelo Garcia, one of the all time best competitors,
Speaker 8: Roger Gracie. The list goes on and on, but those
Speaker 8: competitions went on this weekend as well, where the best
Speaker 8: grappler in the world up until this point, Gordon Ryan,
Speaker 8: defended his Absolute Championship. He also defeated his longtime rival
Speaker 8: Felipe Payana, and he was called out by the winner
Speaker 8: of the Craig Jones Invitational, Nicki Rodriguez, Gordon Ryan's former
Speaker 8: training partner, Nicky. Nicki rod said, let's go banned for
Speaker 8: band one million. I will put up my briefcase my
Speaker 8: one million dollars right now and betted against one million
Speaker 8: dollars from you, Gordon. So I don't know if that's
Speaker 8: gonna happen, but a hallmark weekend for grappling, and as
Speaker 8: I mentioned, really really these were, especially the Craig Jones
Speaker 8: Invitational was a professional wrestling tournament that was put on.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start a rumor here that that's why John
Speaker 4: Moxley is out right now, is because he is getting
Speaker 4: ready for this. He won his jiu jitsu deal that
Speaker 4: he had there in Ohio or wherever it was. He's
Speaker 4: training to come back as a member of the Craig
Speaker 4: Jones Invitational. Hey, which, by the way, actually let me
Speaker 4: tell you this, ask you this for real, because there
Speaker 4: are obviously we used to talk about, well if MMA
Speaker 4: was around, when pro wrestling was you know, faltering, you know,
Speaker 4: we used to ask guys, what would you do? And
Speaker 4: so we know there's a lot of guys involved in
Speaker 4: pro wrestling who do things to different degrees.
Speaker 8: Now they say a lot of guys say they would.
Speaker 4: Well, you've been in these locker rooms and you've seen
Speaker 4: guys and I'm not asking you to throw shade at anybody.
Speaker 4: If you want to, that would be great because you
Speaker 4: know it would be something they could put up on YouTube.
Speaker 4: But to you, who are some of the people that
Speaker 4: you've seen in these locker rooms who, in some form
Speaker 4: or another are really great at what they do, whether
Speaker 4: it be grappling or kickboxing or whatever. Who would filthy
Speaker 4: not want to mess with or want on his side
Speaker 4: in the fight?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's all the obvious people that you
Speaker 8: could think about. There's not very Yeah, well I'm talking
Speaker 8: about modern day, modern day times. There's guys like you know,
Speaker 8: Mike speed Bailey, who kicks about as hard as any
Speaker 8: man possibly could, Harry Smith, that is definitely a man
Speaker 8: I want on my side during a fight, even though
Speaker 8: I hate his absolute guts. Hoys Isaacs another tough competitor.
Speaker 8: If we're gonna consider Josh Barnett an active pro wrestler,
Speaker 8: then he would have to probably be number one on
Speaker 8: the list. But I can't really think of many people
Speaker 8: out there who are, you know, packing legitimate skills that
Speaker 8: aren't bragging about it, especially in today's day and age.
Speaker 4: Well, we will transition from that to Florida, where a
Speaker 4: lot of actual fighters live FLA Arena. I'm sure somebody's
Speaker 4: gonna be in the crowd tonight in for Lauderdale, Monday
Speaker 4: Night Raw Live USA Network. We've got four matches and
Speaker 4: two segments announced so far. Women's tag team champions Isla
Speaker 4: Don and Alba Fire defend their title in a three
Speaker 4: way match against EO Sky and Kyrie Saan and a
Speaker 4: legitimate badass SHANEA. Basler and Zoe Stark in a six
Speaker 4: man tag team match, Kofe Kingston, Xavier Woods and Odyssey
Speaker 4: Jones against Carrion Cross and the authors of Payne Shamous
Speaker 4: against Pete Dunn.
Speaker 3: That ought to be fun.
Speaker 4: Maxine Dupree against Ivy Nile in what probably won't be
Speaker 4: as fun, and CM punk has got a message for
Speaker 4: Drew McIntyre. Also, Randy Orton will be appearing. Last week,
Speaker 4: he left gunther Lang with an RKO. Something tells me
Speaker 4: that some revenge will have to be had tonight, Filthy.
Speaker 4: Let's just say with what you got there, CM Punk
Speaker 4: Drew MacIntyre got a long way to go before Bad Blood,
Speaker 4: which I would assume this match is going to be
Speaker 4: taking place at but the Indian Strap Match, the strap Match,
Speaker 4: I guess it will just be between CM punk and
Speaker 4: Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Is it not now the Gladiator strap Match or
Speaker 8: I'm sorry the Guardian.
Speaker 3: So yes, it's the the Guardians strat Match.
Speaker 8: Yes, I blew my own joke, which is quite common here.
Speaker 8: Hopefully they don't blow this angle after getting rid of
Speaker 8: the bracelet seemingly so, that was the hottest program up
Speaker 8: until Summer Slam, so hopefully that was a good pivot
Speaker 8: away after they get it back, hopefully get it back
Speaker 8: on track. You know they will.
Speaker 4: I think they will just because of their you know,
Speaker 4: ability to speak everybody into believing everything that's been taking
Speaker 4: place and I thought it was a good thing to
Speaker 4: do at the time. Obviously, in hindsight it probably shouldn't
Speaker 4: have played so much into the Summer Slam match itself.
Speaker 4: But as far as like, you know, having something that
Speaker 4: Drew could really get under CM Punk's skin with and
Speaker 4: something we know in real life would be one of
Speaker 4: the few things that really gets under this guy's skin.
Speaker 4: Is anybody going after his woman and going after his dog.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a good thing, but thankfully they
Speaker 4: have now pivoted away from that and God and through it.
Speaker 4: We still got smacked down to get through from Friday,
Speaker 4: as well as Collision and Rampage. And yes, Zach Saber
Speaker 4: Junior has won the g One. He's got his first
Speaker 4: opponent or wanted to be the first opponent for Tessie
Speaker 4: and Nato, but Nato will be depending against somebody else.
Speaker 4: We'll get into that when we get back from break
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Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez
Speaker 2: and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 4: Back on the show, Mike semper vv Filthy Town. While
Speaker 4: they're here with you, I'd love to talk about what
Speaker 4: we were talking about during the break, because now I
Speaker 4: need to explain something filthy and I'm gonna have to
Speaker 4: wait until next break. I need to apologize. I believe
Speaker 4: I said WWE bad Blood is where cmpunk and Drew
Speaker 4: McIntyre would be strapping each other. But the reason I
Speaker 4: have bad Blood on the brain and not Bash in
Speaker 4: Berlin where that match is actually going to be taking places,
Speaker 4: because it was pointed out to me that on Saturday,
Speaker 4: October fifth, that's when Bad Blood is going to be
Speaker 4: taking place at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta, and
Speaker 4: they're listing a start time of five thirty pm, So
Speaker 4: not that that's probably going to really affect a whole
Speaker 4: lot of people out there, but is going to be
Speaker 4: starting at five thirty pm. That is what's listed on
Speaker 4: WWE dot com, assumedly because there are two Major League
Speaker 4: Baseball League Division Series Game ones which are planned for
Speaker 4: that day. The University of Georgia is playing Auburn at
Speaker 4: home that day at a time still to be announced.
Speaker 4: It will probably be in all likelihood at seven or
Speaker 4: seven thirty in Athens, and some one.
Speaker 3: Of those things filthy. It just it was kind of funny.
Speaker 4: It's doubtful that the Braves are going to go on
Speaker 4: a run and actually be that team that's at home
Speaker 4: in the league Division series. I don't even know if
Speaker 4: that's possible to happen with the way things shake out,
Speaker 4: but it's kind of amazing that it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: AW has been in some tough spots, but this is
Speaker 4: going to be as tough of a spot as WWE
Speaker 4: actually is.
Speaker 3: In really, you know at all.
Speaker 4: You know, ever, as far as this year goes, as
Speaker 4: far as the last couple of years ago, they actually
Speaker 4: are gonna have real competition from sports, which is probably
Speaker 4: gonna squeeze them that day. And by the way, UFC
Speaker 4: three to zero, what would it be? Three oh seven?
Speaker 4: I don't even know who can tell whatever number they're
Speaker 4: up to now.
Speaker 8: I watched the virtually the entire card this past week,
Speaker 8: and I couldn't tell you what number that was. Three
Speaker 8: toho five maybe.
Speaker 3: Not a clue, not a clue. But about DDP I was.
Speaker 8: It was a fantastic fight.
Speaker 4: So there you go, everybody, if you need to adjust
Speaker 4: your schedules, adjust him accordingly. I have a feeling collision,
Speaker 4: Just don't air collision that day. That's probably going to
Speaker 4: be the best for them too. With the rest of
Speaker 4: college football also taking place. Or rewinded back to Friday
Speaker 4: for SmackDown in Orlando and the show. The biggest thing
Speaker 4: from the show was the end, which was Solo Soca
Speaker 4: demanding to be acknowledged and the crowd started chanting OTC,
Speaker 4: so they have gotten that one over. He said he
Speaker 4: doesn't care if the fans acknowledge him. Only one man
Speaker 4: does and that's Roman Reigns, who made his way to
Speaker 4: the ring. They started exchanging punches once again. Solo gets
Speaker 4: beat up. Roman hit a Superman punch and then got
Speaker 4: jumped by Tamatanga. They both beat on Roman until he
Speaker 4: turned the tables, hit another Superman punch and his spear
Speaker 4: on Solo. The crowd chanted OTC again. Roman then spotted
Speaker 4: his ulafalla. He picked it up, seemed to orgasm once
Speaker 4: he did put it on, the crowd chanting. His music played,
Speaker 4: and then he got murked by Jacob Fatu, wearing a
Speaker 4: leg brace his walking boot.
Speaker 3: Fatu killed him for a while and then they all
Speaker 3: power bombed him through the announcer's table, and the show
Speaker 3: closed with Solo, Tama and Fatu all posing over Rains's body.
Speaker 3: The other notable things from the show of the Street
Speaker 3: Profits became the number one contenders to the Bloodlines tag
Speaker 3: team title by defeating Gargano and Shampa Meetchen is going
Speaker 3: to get the next shot at women's champion Naya Jacks.
Speaker 3: That came after she ruined Nia's championship celebration when she
Speaker 3: hit the ring with a kendo's stick and destroyed pretty
Speaker 3: deadly Tiffany Stratton and Nya herself. Before that happened, Nia
Speaker 3: was trying to get Tiffany Stratton to bow down to her,
Speaker 3: so we may be getting Tiffany Stratton babyface sooner rather
Speaker 3: than later. La Knight also cut a promo warning Santhos
Speaker 3: Escobari's going to quote knock his turo in the dirt
Speaker 3: end quote next week when they meet for the United
Speaker 3: States title, and Carmelo Hayes finally got a win against
Speaker 3: Androde when he sat down on a sunset flip attempt
Speaker 3: and got the pin. After the match to two brawled
Speaker 3: until the referees broke them up, and Dorotte now leads
Speaker 3: their unofficial Best of Whatever series two to one. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: you satisfied, dare Tom with what you heard about SmackDown.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a few things I think Mishin over the
Speaker 8: past month or so, they've done a great job getting
Speaker 8: her over and seemingly the only thing that changed in
Speaker 8: her act is adding in this kendo stick. So the fans,
Speaker 8: if nothing else is true, they always love not only
Speaker 8: a good table, but a good kendo stick or Singapore cane,
Speaker 8: and Mishin has done a great job, so I'm very
Speaker 8: happy to see her use more prominently and getting this
Speaker 8: next title shot at Naya Jacks. As we talked about
Speaker 8: on Friday, for those long time listeners of ours, Carmelo,
Speaker 8: Hayes and Andrade have been lighting it up on SmackDown
Speaker 8: when given the chance. This past Friday no different. Based
Speaker 8: on what I saw and Roman Reigns comes out, I'd
Speaker 8: like to say I was a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 8: I was wrong. I didn't think there'd be much movement
Speaker 8: in the way of Roman Reigns. I thought maybe he'd
Speaker 8: come out and there would be no interaction, or at
Speaker 8: least no physical interaction between him and the rest of
Speaker 8: the Bloodline. But we got a fight right off the bat,
Speaker 8: and this week we could escalated even more as Roman
Speaker 8: Reigns got beat up, he showed vulnerability three against one.
Speaker 8: He got taken out to end the show. So this
Speaker 8: isn't like the old days of Hulk Hogan and the
Speaker 8: Warrior just running a rough shot beating everybody, stone cold,
Speaker 8: beating people up to and the show Roman Reigns got
Speaker 8: laid out. And I guarantee, I guarantee this crowd we
Speaker 8: chan otc even louder come Friday.
Speaker 3: And that was a loud ask credinal Lando. They were
Speaker 3: really loud, and they were a really, really good crowd.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people want to jump to
Speaker 4: Roman and Jacob Fatu. I get it because you want
Speaker 4: to see that rather than Solo, But look Solo's the
Speaker 4: final boss of this particular thing, and I can't wait
Speaker 4: to see Forget about Fatoo for a minute. I want
Speaker 4: to see Roman Reigns in Tamatanga because I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people now have realized who maybe either forgot
Speaker 4: about him, didn't know about him because he was in
Speaker 4: New Japan, maybe took him for granted because he was
Speaker 4: in New Japan for so long. He's really showing out.
Speaker 4: As much as people like to poke fun at Tangaloa,
Speaker 4: really Tamatanga. This is the time for him to step
Speaker 4: up this. He's in his forties. This was gonna be
Speaker 4: his big chance. He has taken the ball and absolutely
Speaker 4: ran with it. At some point down the line, I
Speaker 4: would love to see him against Rains. Now, Tom, you
Speaker 4: are a former denizen of the city of Orlando.
Speaker 3: Correct, that is true.
Speaker 8: I lived there for ten years.
Speaker 4: At the show on Friday, WWE announced that they would
Speaker 4: be back in Orlando at the Kia Center on Saturday,
Speaker 4: December twenty eighth, which is the same night Aw's running
Speaker 4: World's End sixteen miles east at Addition Financial Arena. Deliciously petty.
Speaker 4: In fact, I wrote that on Twitter, I can appreciate
Speaker 4: the pettiness, but WWE running a house show head up
Speaker 4: with World's End also street seems extremely masturbatory. I had
Speaker 4: somebody from WWE, what do you big mad about this?
Speaker 4: I'm not mad about this. I'm just stating a fact here.
Speaker 4: It is deliciously petty and you they can do what
Speaker 4: they want, but it's also extremely masturbatory, because is this
Speaker 4: really gonna hurt AW? If you were not going to
Speaker 4: the AW show, you know, I guess this gave you
Speaker 4: a chance to do something that night. But I would
Speaker 4: think anybody that is an AW fan looks at this
Speaker 4: and just it can only help to me, you know,
Speaker 4: because it lobs another sal vote those guys and goes, Okay, well, fine,
Speaker 4: screw you, I'm gonna go out to the show. I
Speaker 4: just don't see how this actually hurts AW at all.
Speaker 4: I don't see how it helps WWE. But it does
Speaker 4: allow them the opportunity to, as I said, pull it out,
Speaker 4: lay it out, and just you know, have fun at
Speaker 4: aw's expense. What do you think about this piece of
Speaker 4: counter programming.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean they're likely with traffic you're looking at
Speaker 8: probably thirty minutes, I would say between the two places.
Speaker 8: One of them is on the campus of UCF. The addition,
Speaker 8: financial Arena is on campus at uc Yeah, which is yeah,
Speaker 8: you know, it was about thirty minutes back when I
Speaker 8: lived there, and traffic's only gotten worse since then. That's
Speaker 8: a ten thousand see arena. I don't know what AW
Speaker 8: will have it, you know, laid out for, but I
Speaker 8: would I mean, these WWA holiday shows, these ww holiday
Speaker 8: shows do pretty well, don't they.
Speaker 3: They look they do.
Speaker 4: And what was pointed out to me too was they
Speaker 4: did this show in Orlando the same way they do
Speaker 4: them for the Garden. Obviously, the Garden has got the
Speaker 4: tradition and they will be there on Boxing Day on
Speaker 4: the twenty six. But it's not like Orlando hasn't had
Speaker 4: this show. But with that said, it's not like it's
Speaker 4: such a tradition there where. You couldn't have held it
Speaker 4: somewhere else in Florida. You could have held it anywhere
Speaker 4: and sold out and made money. They just decided to
Speaker 4: do it again there.
Speaker 8: Well, whose headquarters are in Orlando? Is it AW or
Speaker 8: is a WW? So?
Speaker 3: I mean, oh wait, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 8: If you want to look at it like that, isn't
Speaker 8: ae W the one invading their territory during the holiday
Speaker 8: season now, I mean really exactly realistically, that's not the case.
Speaker 8: I don't want people thinking that. I mean, these places
Speaker 8: are two hours apart. There's a million wrestlers that live
Speaker 8: in Florida.
Speaker 4: I think, I don't know, maybe maybe an underestimation.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I want to see both both shows, do okay?
Speaker 4: I you know, and I think The World's End I
Speaker 4: think is going to do what it does. I just think,
Speaker 4: you know, he again, people there w W, They're going to.
Speaker 8: Go like before we go, right, school is going to
Speaker 8: be out of out of session, so you're looking at
Speaker 8: not having all these students in the addition financial arena,
Speaker 8: so plus one maybe wwe.
Speaker 3: Hopefully they got a good deal on the building. We'll see.
Speaker 3: It's something to talk about and nothing wrong with that
Speaker 3: because dy clothes.
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Speaker 4: Back on the show, Mike Simper, maybe filthy Tom Lawler,
Speaker 4: that son of a bitch set me up, producer Dom
Speaker 4: set me up.
Speaker 3: It's true, that's what happened.
Speaker 4: I didn't miss my time, Okay, didn't go over break Okay,
Speaker 4: it's not something that I would do.
Speaker 3: It's a very.
Speaker 4: Aw thing to do. Speaking of that aw collision on
Speaker 4: Saturday went overtime, we'll get to that. The main event
Speaker 4: ended exactly the way everyone thought it would. Not the
Speaker 4: finish maybe, but the result time limit draw between FTR
Speaker 4: and the Acclaimed.
Speaker 3: But Tony Shavani had.
Speaker 4: To speed through this like it was nineteen eighty six
Speaker 4: and he was doing the WTBS World Championship Wrestling Tour
Speaker 4: spots because the show went a few minutes long, and
Speaker 4: he said he got word from Tony Kahan that both
Speaker 4: teams would be challenging the Young Bucks at all.
Speaker 3: In absolutely no surprise there whatsoever. Britt Baker opened the
Speaker 3: show by defeating Harley Cameron. Brian has already lamented this
Speaker 3: entire deal for subscribers on two shows, and I can
Speaker 3: almost guarantee you if it comes up he will tomorrow
Speaker 3: as well. When we preview Wednesday's Dynamite, they did not
Speaker 3: announce Baker being on the show until Friday on Rampage.
Speaker 3: And regardless of what you think about her, she's one
Speaker 3: of their brightest stars and you need to leave, you know,
Speaker 3: have some kind of forward looking as far as being
Speaker 3: able to plan out what TVs these folks are going
Speaker 3: to be on. With the situation you're in right now,
Speaker 3: you're staring down the barrel of football on top of it,
Speaker 3: like if you have somebody MJF is going to be
Speaker 3: on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Britt Baker Orange Cast John Moxley. I don't know who
Speaker 4: their biggest movers or biggest names are or what the
Speaker 4: perception is, but like those people, I would think Britt
Speaker 4: Baker's one of them. He kind of got to advertise that,
Speaker 4: so I get it. Opened the show by defeating Harley Cameron.
Speaker 4: But what really got to Brian was afterwards when Mercedes
Speaker 4: and Camille came down to the ring. Britt grab grabbed
Speaker 4: a kendo stick, and Tom not as good with the
Speaker 4: kendo stick as mishin is, Britt snuck up behind Mercedes,
Speaker 4: got the lockjaw on her last week. That probably should
Speaker 4: have been the angle this week, because instead she challenges
Speaker 4: and runs after, grabs her kendo stick, goes after Mercedes
Speaker 4: and Camille, gets stopped by Camille, who took the stick,
Speaker 4: broke it over her knee, big gave her a big
Speaker 4: boot later out threw her into the ring. Later out
Speaker 4: there as well too. It just felt like at least
Speaker 4: this angle should have been last Wednesday, and the angle
Speaker 4: on Wednesday where Britt got Mercedes and got the lockjaw,
Speaker 4: Honor and Camille needed to save her from it, that
Speaker 4: probably should have been on Saturday. But any thoughts on
Speaker 4: Britt getting laid out so badly here leading into this
Speaker 4: match at Wembley.
Speaker 8: I mean my only thought is that doesn't she have
Speaker 8: a role in Cobra Kai? Should she be better with
Speaker 8: these this weapons fighting the kobudo Kobudo.
Speaker 4: Dustin Rhodes and Sammy Gevara are your new ROH World
Speaker 4: Tag Team Champions b Mike Bennett and Matt Tavin. Dustin's
Speaker 4: now a double champion along with being the ROH World
Speaker 4: six man Tag Team Champions with the Von Eric Boys.
Speaker 4: This was crazy and overbooked, but in a good way,
Speaker 4: and if it wasn't done so much, it would probably
Speaker 4: mean a lot more to Gates Agony were out there
Speaker 4: the conglomeration Roderick Strong got involved, so at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, Dustin Rhodes and Sammy are your ROH
Speaker 4: Tag Team Champions. There was also an Eddie Kingston promo
Speaker 4: which was really good on whether or night. Brian Danielson's
Speaker 4: head and heart were really into facing swor of Strickland.
Speaker 4: If you why are you doing this? If this isn't
Speaker 4: who you are, and you better step up and lose
Speaker 4: patna and show it because if not, then that means
Speaker 4: you ain't got it anymore. It was a really great
Speaker 4: promo from Kingston, but it also probably should have been
Speaker 4: on about a week or so ago before Brian has
Speaker 4: been you know, instilled with all of this spirit through
Speaker 4: his battles with Jeff Jarrett Eddie.
Speaker 8: Kingston looked like he was about one step away from
Speaker 8: starting a male explosives to people from the woods.
Speaker 3: He's kicked the beard is very good. He's got that
Speaker 3: kind of time.
Speaker 8: Forget power bomb, and he looked like he was about
Speaker 8: to be unibombing.
Speaker 4: Hey, all right, look we finally gotten an explanation for
Speaker 4: well Osprey not wanting to use the Tiger Driver ninety
Speaker 4: one and Dave was on with Brian on Wrestling Observer
Speaker 4: Radios and a lot of people have mocked the angle, yeah,
Speaker 4: because it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Wrestling moves her. You know, pile drivers hurt.
Speaker 4: Brainbusters inferior are supposed to jam your neck in your back.
Speaker 4: What makes this such a big deal. Well, finally we
Speaker 4: got the reason that it's been such a big deal
Speaker 4: to will Ospray. This is another thing that they probably
Speaker 4: should have brought up a long time ago.
Speaker 3: What wasn't wrong but because Massawa A lot of it
Speaker 3: revolved around Mitsuhara Masala, and they showed footage of him
Speaker 3: from Noah and how he would break out the move
Speaker 3: but was always very hesitant to do so, only pulling
Speaker 3: it out in the big matches, in the big moments
Speaker 3: when he absolutely needed to and there was no other
Speaker 3: way to do it. But you know, even though they
Speaker 3: did not flat out say it, they also kind of
Speaker 3: you know, they noted that Massawa died and you know,
Speaker 3: you'd have to go back and obviously he didn't die
Speaker 3: because of that move, but you know, it played into
Speaker 3: will Ospray's concern over ever whinting to do this move
Speaker 3: to someone and hurt them in the same way that
Speaker 3: he allegedly did to catch Omega and Brian Danielson. I
Speaker 3: accept it just something that probably should have happened a
Speaker 3: long time ago. Again, the issue with him not wanting
Speaker 3: to use it, that's fine, It's just why it took
Speaker 3: this long to get there. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Jack Perry defeated Daniel O'Ryan in like a minute, put
Speaker 4: him in a body bag, and long story short, he
Speaker 4: now has a blacked out version of the TNT title.
Speaker 4: They should have went like full Sickos Committee and beviled
Speaker 4: it or something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Long story short.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Trios title, Christopher Daniels announced
Speaker 4: that the Patriarchy, Bang Bang Gang and House of Black
Speaker 4: will now face off against some other team that will
Speaker 4: be decided on Wednesday, and the match that they have
Speaker 4: at Wembley Stadium is now a London Ladders match, so
Speaker 4: possibly the Death Triangle is their last raw here.
Speaker 3: What do you think so?
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so. I think it's the trio
Speaker 8: that everyoney has been waiting for. People have been clamoring
Speaker 8: for this over the past few weeks. I think it's
Speaker 8: gonna be aj Big Justice and the Rizzler. Really really
Speaker 8: do I really think that? No, but it was worth
Speaker 8: it to get that joke out there on the air.
Speaker 4: Tell you what, No, I think it'll be, even though
Speaker 4: I don't know if it will be them or not.
Speaker 4: How about Top Flight in action Andretti with your flight
Speaker 4: attendant Laylah Gray at ringside. They're good in London ladder matches.
Speaker 4: They can take the big bumps that all christ Let me.
Speaker 8: Tell you, Mike, she has never once been my flight attendant.
Speaker 8: I can assure you that much.
Speaker 3: Would you like her to be?
Speaker 8: I mean if she provides adequate service based on the
Speaker 8: purchase of the ticket.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hologram also beat Angelico to make it five wins in
Speaker 4: a row, which they noted. Claudio beat Leo Rush in
Speaker 4: a really fun match in Mariah May defeated London d
Speaker 4: Or very quick. Tony Storm then cut a video promo
Speaker 4: which led to Mariah May then beating Dior down with
Speaker 4: the shoe after the match. Aw's Go Home Dynamite is
Speaker 4: on Wednesday in Cardiff, Wales. Here's what's been announced so far.
Speaker 4: The multi team trios match to decide who moves on
Speaker 4: to Wembley. He got that, you also got the Continental Championship.
Speaker 4: Kazuchka Okada against Claudio Cashignoli. Just feels to me that
Speaker 4: there is going to be another shoe that is going
Speaker 4: to drop during this match. It just seems so odd
Speaker 4: that they're doing this one at Wales. And not doing
Speaker 4: it at Wembley thought okay, well, maybe he's just gonna
Speaker 4: do something to Claudio which causes Moxley to come back.
Speaker 4: Brian doesn't think that that's the case. Doesn't believe he's
Speaker 4: going to be all in or all out. We just
Speaker 4: got to see what goes on. AW World Women's Champion
Speaker 4: Tony Storm will defend against Soirea in a match that
Speaker 4: was set up on Friday. Storm gifted Sorea the match
Speaker 4: because it was her birthday and they'll both be in
Speaker 4: the UK. And yeah, why they didn't loop Sirea and
Speaker 4: Harley into a thing with Tony and Mariah like a
Speaker 4: week ago to set this up?
Speaker 3: I have no idea because it makes no sense.
Speaker 4: Really with Tony's crazed character that she has that why
Speaker 4: she would have anything other than Mariah May on her mind?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Chris Jericho challenged Tommy Billington that was announced on Collision,
Speaker 4: and then MJF and Will Osprey will have a face
Speaker 4: to face leading into their match at Wembley. NXT is
Speaker 4: tomorrow night. Here's the lineup as it stands so far.
Speaker 4: NXT Championship Number one Contenders match Wes Lee against Pete
Speaker 4: Dunn and Joe Hendry NXT Women's Championship Number one Contenders
Speaker 4: Gauntlet match Jada Parker Carmen Petrovic or Petrovitch. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: a lot of years of Marco Crow, cup Ren Sinclaire Kendall,
Speaker 4: Gray Soul, Ruka, Adrian Rizzo, Luke Allos, and Carl Anderson
Speaker 4: against Hank Walker and Tank Ledger, Lola Ice against Wendy
Speaker 4: chu Ashwanda the Adonis against Dion Lennox. For all of
Speaker 4: the women and Chase U has their title celebration.
Speaker 8: Give me a.
Speaker 4: Reason it should be anybody other than Jada Parker that
Speaker 4: wins that Number one contendership because she's been great.
Speaker 8: Based on the where you read the card, I thought
Speaker 8: you said that Carl Anderson and Luke Gallows were also
Speaker 8: in that Battle Royal, and I thought, well, nothing would
Speaker 8: make me happier.
Speaker 3: That's hanging out with the good Styes, Doc.
Speaker 8: Gallows gett a n XC Woman's Championship match.
Speaker 3: Who body slam Doc Gallows? Who was that? Who was
Speaker 3: the women the women's wrestler that that slam Gallows? Because
Speaker 3: that was I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 8: I remember behind the scenes or publicly no public.
Speaker 3: In the ring during an actual match at an event
Speaker 3: can't answer riho ripley. Somebody said Rhareptley and that makes
Speaker 3: all the sense in the world.
Speaker 8: So yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, say obafem and Tony D'Angelo have
Speaker 4: to be doing something on this show, just because they
Speaker 4: interacted twice last week trying to show each other up.
Speaker 4: And I gotta be honest, I really like the idea
Speaker 4: of that being a match for Obafemi's North American title,
Speaker 4: him and Tony di'angelo, and now that Dangelo doesn't have
Speaker 4: the Heritage Cup anymore, could probably come to pass. But
Speaker 4: I also want to come to pass Tom and you
Speaker 4: got to hear me out here, Okay, I'm serious. Zach
Speaker 4: Saber Junior won the g One. Afterwards, Saber said that
Speaker 4: he's not waiting until the Tokyo Dome. He said he
Speaker 4: wanted this title match asap so he could win it
Speaker 4: and defend it when New Japan goes to London for
Speaker 4: Royal Quest four on August twentieth. Now he's not going
Speaker 4: to get that, but I believe things are setting themselves
Speaker 4: up for Tetsuya and Iaido to drop the ISWGP title
Speaker 4: sooner rather than later okay So at the next New
Speaker 4: Japan show on September twenty ninth, Destruction in Kobe, Nayato
Speaker 4: is going to defend his title against the great o'conn,
Speaker 4: who did defeat him during the g One. O'conn was
Speaker 4: more serious during the g one. They made sure to
Speaker 4: point that out. All the comedy was pretty much out
Speaker 4: the window. They gave him a story. He lost his
Speaker 4: first four.
Speaker 3: And then went on to win his next five, including Nito,
Speaker 3: and got him into the playoffs. He then lost a
Speaker 3: second time to Shingo in the semifinal, who went on
Speaker 3: to lose the Saber. How about o'con defeats Nayato in
Speaker 3: the match on September twenty ninth, then loses to Zach
Speaker 3: Saber Junior at the King of Pearl Wrestling show in October,
Speaker 3: and that opens up what member of l ij is
Speaker 3: going to face Zach Saber Junior at the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 3: What do you think about that scenario at some drama
Speaker 3: at least with Suji, Shingo, and Nito all battling with
Speaker 3: each other and all having a stake trying to go
Speaker 3: after the title.
Speaker 8: So you think Okan defeats Nito.
Speaker 3: Here's why why not? Why not? They did it with
Speaker 3: Shinya Makabe when he became Togi Makabe. If you're gonna
Speaker 3: do something with Okan, now's the time him winning the title.
Speaker 3: Sure it will be a short reign, it'll be obviously transitional,
Speaker 3: but it can give him something if they build up
Speaker 3: behind it, and they need everything that they can get
Speaker 3: right now, especially uma O and now Ua Mura are
Speaker 3: also hurt. Gives you some drama leading into it, right maybe?
Speaker 8: I mean, hey, drama for sure. That one caught me
Speaker 8: off guard.
Speaker 2: Bike.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to think about that one, but I'm
Speaker 8: not opposed to it. Sounds good to me. I'm a
Speaker 8: big Oka guy.
Speaker 3: Were you a big Omarian guy? Now we will be
Speaker 3: back rustling Observer Alive.
Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike simper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 3: Back on the show, you know, this is a weekend
Speaker 3: at Bernie shirt. It's guilty just called my shirt. It
Speaker 3: was a you've dragged my just just through this entire show.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that joke was low, Max.
Speaker 3: You got anything else to add today?
Speaker 8: Nothing of value? I can assure you that if you
Speaker 8: want to talk about I mean, if you want to
Speaker 8: talk about something, I will say because we touched out
Speaker 8: a little bit earlier that the UFC over this past
Speaker 8: weekend was great. There was a lot of trash talk
Speaker 8: going into the show, a lot of talk about who
Speaker 8: was gonna be the real African Champion, And at the
Speaker 8: end of the day, they both agreed after the fight
Speaker 8: that no matter what African.
Speaker 3: Champion, don't say it. Don't say it.
Speaker 8: Who Marcus Garvey, Yeah, take that one, Bud.
Speaker 3: I'll be damn Look at you. Look at that. Look
Speaker 3: Mina shark Kala. Do you want to mention?
Speaker 8: DDP walked out the champion, go watch it.
Speaker 3: Already heard that Mina shar Kala and a Knako against
Speaker 3: the Tricia Dora and Viva Van is now the match
Speaker 3: for Capitol Collision. It's a kickoff match.
Speaker 4: They're giving away three mina to everybody before the show,
Speaker 4: trying to trying to get them to order the show.
Speaker 4: Should they not then announce during the pre show that
Speaker 4: she is also going to be on the show with
Speaker 4: a partner, jumping into your match alongside Fred Rosser against
Speaker 4: Boys and Darrell.
Speaker 8: They're going down, brother. Sorry, I was checking my messages.
Speaker 8: Old Lance storm was digging into us. We can't escape it, Mike,
Speaker 8: No matter what you, neither I nor the listeners can
Speaker 8: escape the beaten at the hands of Lance and Brian Ugh.
Speaker 3: Absolutely deserved, absolutely deserved.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the exact complaint is, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's probably my fault, Filthy. I want to thank you
Speaker 4: for joining me today. I want to thank producer Dom,
Speaker 4: I want to thank producer Jared. I want to thank
Speaker 4: whoever was on the clock today screwed me all up,
Speaker 4: and all of you out there for watching and listening.
Speaker 3: We shall talk to you again after a while.
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