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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight talking about how basically the FBI was

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Speaker 2: just a domestic you know, spying right, like that the

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Speaker 2: whole point of the UDID, true, was just a spy

433
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Speaker 2: on us and people who disagree with the government, both

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Speaker 2: on domestic and foreign policy. And then he was talking

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Speaker 2: about how Woodrow Wilson use the FBI to spine Americans

436
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Speaker 2: during the First World War and arrest people and then

437
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Speaker 2: you can go back to I think nineteen seventeen, which

438
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Speaker 2: the Espionage Act was passed, and that was the first

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Speaker 2: domestic surveillant nationwide surveillance law that allowed for wiretapping as well. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean part of me kind of thinks, like, are

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Speaker 2: we just finding out more and like, really have we

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Speaker 2: ever been able to trust or own government? Or really

443
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Speaker 2: have we ever been as free as we have thought

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Speaker 2: we have? Is it really just sort of an illusion,

445
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Speaker 2: like this manufactured illusion? So you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that's like two whatever, Like, you know, these are

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Speaker 2: just some of the things I've really been thinking about recently.

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Speaker 1: Well that's like, look, in the nineteen sixties for the

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Speaker 1: Vietnam War, I mentioned it earlier, but that's the anti

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Speaker 1: war protests were born out of people not trusting the government.

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm with you, I'm with you completely, Like

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Speaker 1: at what point, at what point in the last fifty

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Speaker 1: or sixty years, Right, maybe it happened recently, Lisa, But

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Speaker 1: at what point did it become cool a mainstream position

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Speaker 1: to trust the government.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I had more I admittedly

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Speaker 2: had more faith until you know, recently, and then COVID

458
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Speaker 2: just completely eroded. I mean, you know, you saw under

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Speaker 2: Obama how he used the government to spy on well

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Speaker 2: one Trump, right with the FBI and the DOJ heading

461
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Speaker 2: into the twenty sixteen election, but even before that, spying

462
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Speaker 2: on reporters, spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So I

463
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Speaker 2: think the Obama years really erodeed my trust in government,

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Speaker 2: and then it's just gone exponentially worse, or at least

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Speaker 2: what we know, right, I'm sure if you do a

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Speaker 2: thorough look back, as we just had some discussion, probably

467
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Speaker 2: should have never been able to never really trust in

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Speaker 2: the government. It's really well, like what's really crazy too

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Speaker 2: if you think about the twenty sixteen stuff, right, like,

470
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Speaker 2: all we heard was Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia's trying to

471
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Speaker 2: steal the election, and what it turns out to be

472
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Speaker 2: is obviously a manufactured hit job from the FBI, the

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Speaker 2: dj and the left of Trump also though, and more importantly,

474
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Speaker 2: what we're finding out now out is a pretext to

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Speaker 2: surveil and spy on Americans and then also to use

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Speaker 2: that to rig future elections, as they did with the

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Speaker 2: FBI going to Twitter and Facebook and being like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we have to be really concerned about Russia. Give us

479
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Speaker 2: all this authority and all this power that we don't

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Speaker 2: deserve to have. Let us violate Americans First Amendment rights

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Speaker 2: in the name of somehow protecting us against something that

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Speaker 2: never happened, that was completely manufactured by the government in

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Speaker 2: the first place. So you know, kind of wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is kind of wild. And just think

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Speaker 1: about this week alone, Lisa, and the things that have

486
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Speaker 1: come to light, right, the FBI colluding with Twitter right

487
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Speaker 1: and using American taxpayer dollars to both censor wrongthink, censor Americans,

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Speaker 1: and completely kill the Hunter Biden laptop story, which if

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Speaker 1: you look, there's polling out there that says that that

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Speaker 1: story might have changed some minds in the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that came to light was the DOJ

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Speaker 1: spying on the Newness staffers as they tried to expose

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Speaker 1: what eventually became known as the Russia hoax, and Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson did a segment that basically said the CIA may

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Speaker 1: have played or very likely played a role in the

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Speaker 1: jfk assassination. Yet our media, our legacy media, is more

497
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Speaker 1: concerned with writing stories about Aaron Rupar, a fake journalist,

498
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Speaker 1: being temporarily suspended from Twitter. Like, how is this? How

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Speaker 1: is this the world that we live in today?

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Speaker 2: I don't somehow like everyone has gone. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's the schools or what it is, but like

502
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Speaker 2: everyone is so programmed to not challenge and question authority

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Speaker 2: anymore and to not think critically. And I think this

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Speaker 2: is the one thing that really worries me a lot is, Look,

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Speaker 2: the First Amendment was the first for a reason. Right.

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Speaker 2: You look at communist nations, authoritarian nations. What they do

507
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Speaker 2: is when they take over, they control the media so

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Speaker 2: that they can push propaganda and that they're unchallenged, and

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Speaker 2: they also control and censor the Internet. And you know,

510
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Speaker 2: you look at what's happening in America right now and like,

511
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Speaker 2: how is our media really that much different? Right? When

512
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Speaker 2: do they actually challenge authority or challenge the left? They're

513
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Speaker 2: essentially a propaganda machine. I mean they're not really It's

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Speaker 2: not like they're exposing daylight or trying to reach any

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Speaker 2: sort of transparency with the exception of you know, Fox

516
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Speaker 2: in some of these other places, but by and large,

517
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Speaker 2: they don't care. And then you look at the censorship

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Speaker 2: of the Internet with during COVID especially or even with

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden story of going in and literally disallowing

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Speaker 2: the sharing of a story taking down the New York

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Speaker 2: Post from Twitter. And it's like, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just are we really that free? Or you know,

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Speaker 2: are we as free as we we have you know,

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Speaker 2: thought we have been? You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, I mean, I I agree, I agree. It's

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievably concerning. And when you look at you know,

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Speaker 1: just the Republicans, Lisa, Republicans over the last thirty or

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Speaker 1: forty years made just some critical mistakes. Now, of course

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Speaker 1: we've always been the party of low taxes and small government,

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Speaker 1: but I think Republicans where they made where they failed

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Speaker 1: was tackling the culture, you know, getting involved in the

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Speaker 1: cultural fight. I feel like our party or the Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: has ceded academia to the left, entertainment to the left.

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Speaker 1: Even to a certain extent, now we're seeing politics bleed

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Speaker 1: into religion. We disengaged on all those fronts, and to

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Speaker 1: your point about like schools being basically many indoctrination camps

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Speaker 1: for the state, like, at what point how do we

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Speaker 1: get out of this?

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Speaker 2: Well, and then on the religious front and when we

540
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Speaker 2: just had twelve senators basically stick it to you know,

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Speaker 2: religious Americans with the Respect for Marriage Act, and whatever

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Speaker 2: you think about it, they did not do religious freedoms

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Speaker 2: in the law. And so essentially what it's going to

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Speaker 2: do is, you know, biblical organizations that believe in what

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Speaker 2: the Bible teaches, that believe that a marriage is between

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Speaker 2: a man and a woman, they're going to face the

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Speaker 2: crosshairs of the government, lawsuits, and the list goes on.

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Speaker 2: And I think as we continue to see the demise

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Speaker 2: of religion and America is only going to increase those

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Speaker 2: threats directed at you know, Christians and people of faith

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Speaker 2: in America. So it's really this and then also probably

552
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: aligns with how chaotic the world has gotten and how

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Speaker 2: evil the world has gotten as we see less and

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Speaker 2: less like I think gen Z's like the least religious

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Speaker 2: you know group in history, right, and so like the

556
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Speaker 2: more that happens, the worse off we're going to be

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Speaker 2: as a society because you have, like unless people with

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Speaker 2: any sort of anchor holding them down, teaching them wrong

559
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Speaker 2: versus right, or instilling some level of morals and you know,

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Speaker 2: right versus wrong. And so I think that's probably like

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest ones. But in regard to Republicans,

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Speaker 2: we just have too much cowardice, Sean. I think that's

563
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Speaker 2: the biggest problem. Like they just need to grow a pair.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's like it's not pretty, right, Like fighting

565
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: is not easy. You get attacked and people you love

566
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Speaker 2: turn their backs on you, like friends are going to

567
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: turn you know, it's not always fun, but like it

568
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Speaker 2: has to be done. And I think too many people

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Speaker 2: want to be invited to like the country club or

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Speaker 2: you know, invited to the cocktail party or invited to

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Speaker 2: like the Christmas parties, and so they'll sell out for acceptance.

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Speaker 1: That's no exactly. I totally agree with you. And I

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Speaker 1: think if you're someone that's watching or listening to this

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Speaker 1: podcast and you're a conservative that's thinking about running for office,

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Speaker 1: you have to know going into it that the media

576
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Speaker 1: is going to come after you, they're going to lie

577
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Speaker 1: about you. You will never you will never truly be

578
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: ingratiated into their click because even the Republicans that sort

579
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: of fake it to make it, and the Republicans that

580
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: are like on the View right as a co host

581
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Speaker 1: on the View most of the time, like they're not

582
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: real Republicans, right, They're just playing a role. And you

583
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Speaker 1: got to go into the fight with a helmet on,

584
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Speaker 1: expecting to not be friends with the media because there's

585
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: there's no ingratiating yourself to them, and because I think

586
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Speaker 1: Republicans have disengaged on the culture war for so long

587
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: and they're reticent to really fight, you know, because they

588
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Speaker 1: don't want to earn the wrath of the media or

589
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Speaker 1: be attacked from the left. We're watching our country slip away,

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Speaker 1: and and I think I'm not the only one that

591
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Speaker 1: thinks that. I think that there are millions of Americans

592
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Speaker 1: who are wondering where their country has gone, and well,

593
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Speaker 1: how do so so go ahead, I don't want I

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Speaker 1: don't want to.

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Speaker 2: They actually did interview for the view, but I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I know, I was going to ask you about that,

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Speaker 1: but you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the way I look at it is.

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Speaker 1: That wait, wait before you go on, before you got

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Speaker 1: to you gotta tell me, because I was going to

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Speaker 1: ask you about this, like you interviewed, Like when you

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Speaker 1: when you took the stand on the vaccine, Uh, Lisa,

603
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Speaker 1: you took some shots from people. You didn't actually take

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Speaker 1: the shot, but you took shots political shots from from people,

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Speaker 1: some of whom were Republicans, and that cost you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you interviewed for The View, and by the way, like

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Speaker 1: you would have been You would have been perfect for

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Speaker 1: that show, because the conservative host who goes onto a

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Speaker 1: show like The View, you got to know, like you're

610
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Speaker 1: going in there against what four other women liberals on

611
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Speaker 1: the show, liberal audience, liberal makeup people, liberal producers, Like

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Speaker 1: you're going into the lions den and you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to lock horns and engage. And what I've seen sort

614
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Speaker 1: of happen with some of these conservative hosts on The

615
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Speaker 1: View is they go in there and they get beholden

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Speaker 1: too like group think, where they want to ingratiate themselves

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Speaker 1: with the crowd, so they find they they find themselves

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Speaker 1: compromising on things that they probably wouldn't have compromised on

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Speaker 1: prior to going into that show. But you would have

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Speaker 1: been perfect because I think that you are both in

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Speaker 1: your stand with the vaccine, which, by the way, I

622
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Speaker 1: think in many ways you've been vindicated, not that you

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Speaker 1: were ever indicted in the first place, but like you've

624
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Speaker 1: been vindicated in a lot of the stances that you've

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Speaker 1: taken you would have been perfect for that show. That's

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Speaker 1: a long way of me saying like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you would be behold into any sort of group think,

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Speaker 1: and you've been great, But ultimately, what happened? What did

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Speaker 1: they turn you down because you didn't get that you

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Speaker 1: weren't going to get the vaccine? Is that what happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you'd already taken the stance on the vaccine,

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Speaker 2: and then that kind of came down to it of, oh,

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Speaker 2: to be on set, you know, you've got to be vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I'm not going to be a sella, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: if I take a stance on something, it is what

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Speaker 2: I mean, And I mean it was like my whole heart,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm not going to be like the second

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Speaker 2: something shiny opportunity comes along, I just like abandoned my

639
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Speaker 2: beliefs for it. Right. So then that just kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, blew that up. But I actually think I

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Speaker 2: would have enjoyed it, just because I like to fight,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I'm not kind of afraid of the fight,

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Speaker 2: So I think it actually would have been fun. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I think the hardest part about the COVID

645
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Speaker 2: stuff was realizing that some friends and people that you

646
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: previously thought I loved you, you know, didn't, right, And

647
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: so I think it for a lot of people really

648
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: sort of exposed maybe fairweather friends and people in your

649
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: life that aren't really truly in it for the right reasons.

650
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Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm really fortunate because the way

651
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Speaker 2: my parents raised me was really just to stand in

652
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Speaker 2: my own beliefs and to not sort of be afraid

653
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Speaker 2: of to not want to have to fit in with

654
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: everyone else, to really like know who I am, know

655
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Speaker 2: what I believe, and like be rooted in that and

656
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Speaker 2: sort of be unafraid to you know, like I like

657
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: I always joke around, like I feel like I could

658
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Speaker 2: be in a house fool of like a hundred people

659
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Speaker 2: and I'm the only person saying something and not a

660
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: soul agrees with me, and I would still be like,

661
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Speaker 2: you know, it's screw this is what I believe. I'm

662
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Speaker 2: not changing my opinion. So you know, I guess, I

663
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: guess I'll leave, but you know, like I would still

664
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Speaker 2: you know, stand firm and what I believe.

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Speaker 1: So when you say your parents, I mean obviously you

666
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Speaker 1: said to you you've got what three brothers you said,

667
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Speaker 1: and you said, your parents raise you. Like, where does

668
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Speaker 1: that strength or that stubbornness come from.

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Speaker 2: Well, my parents are like deeply, deeply religious, and so

670
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Speaker 2: they instilled that in me, and like belief in God

671
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Speaker 2: and faith and also just uh yeah, So I think

672
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Speaker 2: from that, like my parents just really know who they

673
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Speaker 2: are and they really stand firm and their beliefs, and

674
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Speaker 2: so I think they passed that down to me of

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Speaker 2: just you know, not wanting sort of cultural acceptance or

676
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: not really needing everyone else to agree with me. And

677
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a really important thing for where

678
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Speaker 2: we are now in the country, because especially with like

679
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Speaker 2: social media and so much of this, I think that's

680
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Speaker 2: really like the burden of younger generations, which really worries me.

681
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Speaker 2: And I think why gen Z seems to be so

682
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Speaker 2: messed up in so many ways and like TikTok and

683
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Speaker 2: all these different things is just I think the desire

684
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Speaker 2: and the need for acceptance, particularly when you know, you

685
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Speaker 2: talk about gen Z with a lack of religion and

686
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 2: a lack of these other things too, like a really

687
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: broken generation that's really susceptible to sort of outside things

688
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Speaker 2: being forced upon them. And so I think that is

689
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Speaker 2: really like the gen Z coming up is really concerning

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Speaker 2: to me me.

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Speaker 1: Too, I mean especially you talk about TikTok and basically

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, outside aside the national security issues aside,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically Chinese spywaar where they have not

694
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Speaker 1: just access to you know, you on the app, but

695
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Speaker 1: your keystrokes, your passwords, your phone. China basically that the

696
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party basically knows the movements of these these

697
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Speaker 1: kids and what they're doing, and all that data is

698
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Speaker 1: in the hands of the CCP, which is I think

699
00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: our greatest geopolitical foe. But there's something to this sort

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Speaker 1: of TikTok movement that that wasn't there when you and

701
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Speaker 1: I came up, and that what that was the sort

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Speaker 1: of dancing and the inherent sort of narcissism that that

703
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Speaker 1: comes with that as well, that that that can be

704
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: like almost too much focus on oneself while everything else

705
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: falls apart around them. You know, Uh, that's concerning as well.

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Speaker 2: Well. And I think, like to your your point, obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, TikTok is a trojan horse for China to

708
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Speaker 2: spy on people, collect data to probably, but I think

709
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Speaker 2: even more importantly or like we know that but I

710
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: think even more importantly a brainwashing tool, you know, because

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Speaker 2: if you want to destroy like an entire generation of Americans,

712
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Speaker 2: would you be doing anything different than what China has

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Speaker 2: been doing with TikTok? And the fact that you see

714
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Speaker 2: the rise of transgenderism, the rise of uh, you know,

715
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Speaker 2: teenagers who are going to take puberty blockers cast right

716
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: themselves aren't going to be able to have kids and

717
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: the future as we see like declining birth rates, right

718
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: or you know, I think just in then we see

719
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Speaker 2: an increase of suicide among young people as well. I

720
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Speaker 2: think it's something like fifteen to twenty four year olds

721
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Speaker 2: is up by fifty one percent over the past decade.

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Speaker 2: And I don't and that wasn't a study that was

723
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Speaker 2: directly correlated to TikTok. I'm just sort of putting the

724
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Speaker 2: two together. But like point bing is, it's brainwashing young

725
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Speaker 2: people and I think, destroying their minds. And we know

726
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Speaker 2: that it's a Chinese company, So you know, put two

727
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Speaker 2: and two together, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean do you think that do you think that

729
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Speaker 1: we are experiencing, you know, some sort of cultural decay

730
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Speaker 1: here in this country?

731
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Speaker 2: Yeah? One hundred percent. Look like I'm not a perfect

732
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Speaker 2: person by any stretch of the imagination, you know. But like,

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Speaker 2: I just there seems to be a lack of understanding

734
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Speaker 2: between wrong verses right. And I feel like even like

735
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Speaker 2: it seems like back in the day, even though there

736
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Speaker 2: was obviously disagreement among politics and what have you, and

737
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: obviously differences of opinion, and but there seemed to you

738
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Speaker 2: spend more clear lines between what is right as a

739
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: society what is wrong as a society. And to me,

740
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Speaker 2: it just seems like it's all gray area now, right,

741
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: and like there isn't this wrong versus right? And I

742
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: think like the you know, drag queen with the kids

743
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: and the transgender stuff really illuminates that. And then even

744
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Speaker 2: forcing vaccines on children, it's like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we doing?

746
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or like abortion, supporting abortion up until the moment

747
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Speaker 2: of earth now, and it's like, I just like, do

748
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Speaker 2: we have any regard for like protecting children or is

749
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Speaker 2: there are there any blurred line I mean, or is

750
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Speaker 2: there any like black and white anymore? Or is it

751
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Speaker 2: all just this great I mean territory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're talking about I think you know what was

753
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Speaker 1: sort of born out of academia, the whole concept of

754
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Speaker 1: moral relativism. Uh, for a long time, it was, you know,

755
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: a leftist ideology that looked outside of America that sort

756
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Speaker 1: of you know, hey, look like specifically within the context

757
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: of my life, would look at say Afghan culture and

758
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: stoning women to death and you know, exploiting children and

759
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: doing terrible things. They just say, oh, you know, like

760
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: that's just their culture. Like hey, look, we're not any

761
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: better than them. That's just their life, that's their culture.

762
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Speaker 1: And so I feel like that that that sort of

763
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: concept of moral relativism is sort of eroded, that line

764
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: between what is clearly wrong and what is clearly right.

765
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Speaker 1: And I think you see that even reflected in our

766
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: entertainment for our children, right if you look just look

767
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Speaker 1: at Disney. It's a perfect example. Like you ever did

768
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Speaker 1: you ever watch Disney films growing up, Lisa?

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Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I watched. I wanted it. My dad

770
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Speaker 2: used to tell me princess stories before I left at

771
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Speaker 2: that when I was and it was all like, you know, Disney,

772
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Speaker 2: like just different iterations of these Disney stories.

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Speaker 1: So now I know, Now I know where the field

774
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Speaker 1: hockey player that wears a purple dress with a bow

775
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: and her hair comes from exactly so so the Disney stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you watched it, Yeah, I won't pretend to know

777
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Speaker 1: how complicated it really is. But so the Disney stuff, right,

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Speaker 1: So if you watch The Lion King, like you know,

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Speaker 1: I talked to my kids about who the bad guy

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Speaker 1: and the Lion King was, it would be scar If

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00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: you watch something like The Little Mermaid? Who is the

782
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: bad Who is the villain in The Little Mermaid? It

783
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: was Ursula? The line between good and bad was always

784
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: very clearly defined in those films, right, and those films really,

785
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look we're talking about them now and upon

786
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Speaker 1: I'm forty one years old. I remember these films. They

787
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: shaped part of who I, who I have become. But

788
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: you watch, say a film like Finding Nemo, like who

789
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: by the way, it's a good it's a good movie,

790
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: But who's the bad guy in that? Who's the villain

791
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: in that? There is no villain in that? The villain

792
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: is sort of the journey, right and the things that

793
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: Nemo's father and Nemo have to overcome along the way.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he guys talking about the Disney films,

795
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: but my point is is that, like so much of you,

796
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: you learned the lines children learn what's like, what's good

797
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: and what's bad through entertainment, and now even even that

798
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: has been politicized. You when you look at the thing

799
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: like how committed Disney has become to this woke garbage.

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Speaker 1: And I think you see that reflected in their stock prices.

801
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: I think if you invested in Disney four years ago,

802
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: you've now lost money in the company, right, They've lost it.

803
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm worried about the next generation as well,

804
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: because if you can't clearly define what is good and

805
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: what is bad, what is right and what is wrong,

806
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: then where the hell do you go as a as

807
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: a country, not just as as a person, but as

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Speaker 1: a country.

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Speaker 2: When I credit you know, Governor DeSantis with that fight

810
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Speaker 2: of Disney. I'm a Floridian. I moved down here during COVID,

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Speaker 2: and so you love Governor de Santa's I just think

812
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: he's brilliant. He's a warrior, and he's a smart warrior,

813
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: and he's an effective warrior. And taking a degree was

814
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: one of those. But you know, and it's even just

815
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: like this idea, like I think there's this school you're

816
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: talking about it over the weekend, and the school in

817
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: New York where the students were like taking over and

818
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: trying to occupy the school, like demanding a's and like,

819
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's just like but we just like live

820
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: in a society where like there's no consequence, there's no

821
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: wrong versus right. Everything should be handed to you. You

822
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to work for anything. And so it's like

823
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: where does all this head. Like we're going to have

824
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: a military that is going to lose a war, We're

825
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: going to have surgeons who can't actually you know, perform surgery,

826
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: like pilots who can't fly right, Because at some point,

827
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Speaker 2: like there has to be a sifting through a society.

828
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: There has to be a wrong versus right. There has

829
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Speaker 2: to be accountability, there has to be standards, like things

830
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: cannot just be easy for everyone, otherwise you'll have a failing,

831
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: faltering society. And so in addition to like the world

832
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: decay and then too like you even see erosion of

833
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: the work ethic during COVID where the government was basically

834
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Speaker 2: like we're going to pay you to stay home, and

835
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: completely changed or work culture, I think, really feeding into

836
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: a lot of this other stuff we're talking about. And

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00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: so it's just like, you know, how long can a

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00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: society be strong with all these different circumstances at the

839
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Speaker 2: heart of it.

840
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Speaker 1: Well, then you add to that, like all of the

841
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: sort of culture decay and the sort of straying from

842
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: good versus evil, wrong versus right. But then the people

843
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: who occupy positions of power in this country, like the

844
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: White House Press secretary yesterday, like it boggles the mind

845
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: when she says things that are just straight up brazen lies,

846
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: as if she's gaslighting all of America, where she says

847
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: something like, well, to say that the border is open,

848
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily that's not factually true. And I think, like,

849
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: hold on just a damn second, yes, it is factually true.

850
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: Talk to any border talk to any border patrol agent

851
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: on the southern border. They will tell you that our

852
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: border is wide open and along with you know, illegal immigration.

853
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times Republicans get caught up,

854
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: like the left has done a pretty good job at

855
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: forcing Republicans in this weird space to where they conflate

856
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: a legal immigration with with with legal immigration. And of course,

857
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: like Republicans, we're for legal immigration. We're the most generous

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00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: country on the face of the planet where we allow

859
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Speaker 1: two million legal immigrants in this country a year. Show

860
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: me another country on the face of the planet that

861
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: does that. It does not happen. But what's happening at

862
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: our southern border is a crisis of humanity. It is

863
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, women and children are being exploited. Drug cartels

864
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: are being empowered. The fentanyl that is being manufactured in

865
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: China or or even the cartels in Mexico's flooding across

866
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: our border. We're seeing it in candy form, which to me,

867
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Speaker 1: I mean that it's it borders, It borders like as

868
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: an to me, it's almost like an attack on our country.

869
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: They're deliberately targeting children with a deadly drug. And the

870
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Biden administration response to that when when journalists try to

871
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Speaker 1: hold them accountable and speak truth to power, which is

872
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: rare in this day and age, the Biden response to

873
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: that is a wholesale lie, like the border's not open,

874
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: Like are you kidding me?

875
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: Well, there's like, well that's the whole point of Like

876
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: when I named my podcast the Truth of Lisa Booth,

877
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: I mean like it rhymes.

878
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: But also I know it as I was just gonna say,

879
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: was that deliver it the Truth with Lisa Booth?

880
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was born out of COVID and like wanting

881
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: to get to the truth of all this because we

882
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: do live in an environment with you know, lies, right

883
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: and like even worse with than the lies with the

884
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: Biden administration, it's the intention behind what they have done.

885
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the chaos of the border is with intention.

886
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean it is the policies of this administration to

887
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: create that chaos at the southern border. Like when Joe

888
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Biden first took office, absolutely reportations for one hundred days

889
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: he got rid of remain in Mexico. The DHS sectory

890
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: said that it's not grounds for deportation to cross into

891
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: the country illegally, So this is what they want. I

892
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: think with chaos comes opportunity, and you know, you look

893
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: at a lot of the things that are going on

894
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: in the country, I think is to you know, push

895
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: in the direction of more control. If you look at

896
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: things like on the energy policies, you know, basically moving

897
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: us away from being energy independent makes people more poor,

898
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: more dependent on the government. So I don't know, like

899
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: I think there's sort of this intentional chaos that is

900
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: happening under the Biden administration. Yeah, I'd have gotten more

901
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: sinister over the years.

902
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: With no no doubt, and that intentional chaos is not

903
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: just happening within our own borders. I mean, you see

904
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: what's happening in Ukraine. Did you see that that sort

905
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: of video that showed, you know, one dot equals one

906
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: hundred thousand of American taxpayer dollars going to fund Ukraine,

907
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: both from military standpoint, government relief, humanitarian aid, talking like

908
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: to the tune of like over one hundred billion dollars

909
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: to Ukraine, and we don't know where that money's going,

910
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: how it's being spent. And you know, watched a sixty

911
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: minute segment which I don't often do, but it came

912
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: on after football and I was watching it, and you know,

913
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: clearly the segment was meant to sway public sentiment in

914
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: support of the war in Ukraine, and it was about

915
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: children caught in the middle. And having been in combat

916
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: myself and seeing children caught in the middle, that is

917
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: the worst part of the fight, hands down, But to

918
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: to like, I see that, and I and I look

919
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: around my my community, and it's like in a place

920
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: like Kensington, Philadelphia, like where you walk down the streets there,

921
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: it looks like you're walking in an episode of of

922
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: like the Walking Dead. It looks like an apocalyptic society.

923
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: We have people who are suffering here that need we

924
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: need to invest I think in our own communities. And

925
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: I think the American people like, why, why are why

926
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: is this administration? Why is the media trying to force

927
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: this Ukraine narrative on the people here? Lisa Like, what's

928
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: your take on that?

929
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I just obviously have questions

930
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: with you know, one, we keep giving money that they

931
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: can't track, you know, some of the weapons can't track

932
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: and tell us how the money is being spent. You

933
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: also have the fact that the Biden family has made

934
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: money off of Ukraine in the past. Yeah, so where

935
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: is this money going? And then also what's the end objective?

936
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Speaker 2: Like what do we actually think is going to happen?

937
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: What's the plan? It doesn't seem like Ukraine's going to

938
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Speaker 2: be able to expel Russia entirely from the country, So

939
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Speaker 2: then how does this end? And can we reach that

940
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Speaker 2: solution now instead of continuing to allow human suffering? And

941
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Speaker 2: then I think Zelenski is just an interesting character. He

942
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: seems to be really interested in, you know, getting attention

943
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: for the wrong reasons about himself versus then what's right

944
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Speaker 2: for his country. So I just, you know, I have

945
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: I don't really know what the objective is there. I

946
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: just don't trust. And then two even lying to us

947
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Speaker 2: that somehow Russia would want to sabotage its own pipelines

948
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: when they already control the flow of the oil to

949
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 2: begin with, and they've already shut it on and off

950
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Speaker 2: as they please, So why would they blow it up

951
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: when they can just turn it off and be like, yeah,

952
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: you're not getting it right now. So I like, none

953
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: of it makes sense to none of it. And you

954
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: know you're the you're more of a for the foreign

955
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: policy guys. So I don't know what the objective is,

956
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: but I got you know, I've got questions. Sean.

957
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Speaker 1: This is what upsets me so much about this because

958
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: it feels like we just made all of these mistakes

959
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we saw what happened when

960
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: we pulled out of Iraq. It created a vacuum with

961
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: that isis filled right we saw, I mean, Afghanistan was

962
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: an absolute disaster in every way, and we still have

963
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: Americans there, and yet the Biden administration has seemed to

964
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: move on to Ukraine, where there is a distinct lack

965
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: of clarity on what the mission is, what the end

966
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: state is, who the enemy is. I mean, of course

967
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: it's Putin. Putin's a thug. I don't like him. No

968
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Republican likes him. But I think that the American people,

969
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: after having experienced twenty years of war, are entitled to

970
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: have some questions answered about one, where their taxpayer dollars

971
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: are going. And more importantly, are we sending America's sons

972
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: and daughters into the fight to bleed and die for

973
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: this country? And it's that cavalier attitude towards war, and

974
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: I see these blue checks on Twitter talk about it

975
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: all the time. We should be putting boots on the ground,

976
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: and like escalating this conflict and putting Americans in danger

977
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: just drives me crazy because there's not even a mission,

978
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: there's not even an end state. Everything that you just outlined, Lisa,

979
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: I feel like we never even had those questions answered

980
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: about Iraq Andfghanistan, and we saw what happened with n

981
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: state operations in those countries, and I feel like we're

982
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: just making the same mistakes over again with Ukraine, and

983
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: only it's far more dangerous because you're talking about Russia,

984
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: which has a conventional military. You know, our military has

985
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: been has evolved over the last twenty years to specifically

986
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: face a counterinsurgency and anti terror threat. Our brigade combat

987
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: teams have been structured to face that threat. And now

988
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: Russia is a conventional military with conventional battalions, infantry battalions,

989
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: armored battalions, air defense artillery like the Afghans didn't have

990
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: air defense artillery. If American airpower flew into Ukraine or

991
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: flew into Russia, or god forbid, a conflict escalated to

992
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: where we had Americans on the line over there lives

993
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: on the line. We've never faced a conventional country with

994
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: air defense before, Like, how were we ready for that?

995
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: We just had two Navy ships cress into one another

996
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Ocean. It's the Pacific Ocean. Like you

997
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: talk about woke audiology sort of like finding its way

998
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: into the ranks of our military, and it's sort of

999
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: I think, no question, it's hurt our readiness. But it

1000
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: just seems like our political leaders are marching us down

1001
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: another path to war where basic fundamental questions about that

1002
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: war haven't been answered, nor have they even been that

1003
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: those topics been discussed or debated on the House with

1004
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: the Senate floors.

1005
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, even when I was a kid,

1006
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: if I was told to do something, I was like,

1007
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: well why, you know, like what's the reasoning? You know,

1008
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: exactly exactly what's the why? Right, And like they've not

1009
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: really explained the why with Ukraine or you know. And

1010
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: then what's weird too is like Putin or with you know,

1011
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: Biden saying that Putin is like a thug, and you know,

1012
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: I think he pretty much called for regime change previously,

1013
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: but then simultaneously has leaned on.

1014
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: Putin and Russia to negotiate a nuclear deal with Aaran.

1015
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: But we're largest state sponsor of terrorism. So it's like,

1016
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: which one is it is? It is he like this,

1017
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, criminal thug that we need to get rid

1018
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: of and have regime change, but you're simultaneously relying on

1019
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: him to negotiate something of such magnitude. So it's like

1020
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: it also just doesn't really make sense. But like at

1021
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: the bottom of it, which we all know, is just weakness, right,

1022
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: Like Joe Biden is just a coward, Like the man

1023
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: has no principles, he has no morals, He's not rooted

1024
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: in anything, he doesn't even believe in anything. He would

1025
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: change his mind tomorrow if it served his interest. And

1026
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 2: he's also just really dumb and probably senile as well.

1027
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: You know, so you have like the worst combination. So yeah,

1028
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: So like if you're like like Putin didn't do this

1029
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: under Trump? You know, like yeah, and like when you

1030
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: have weakness, it's like it creates chaos because you know,

1031
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: why wouldn't people take you're gonna shoot your shot when

1032
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: you've got someone like him in office?

1033
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: Mm hm? So I have to ask you, and I

1034
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: don't want to keep you over time, but where where

1035
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: does our country go from here? What does twenty twenty

1036
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: four look like? I mean, obviously President Trump is running,

1037
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: it looks like Ron DeSantis is going to jump in.

1038
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: It looks like Mike Pompeio is going to run. It

1039
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: looks like there's going to be a knockdown, drag out

1040
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: Republican primary. Is that what's best for America? And where

1041
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: do Republicans go from here?

1042
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: Like?

1043
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: How do we save this country?

1044
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that a coronation is a good thing.

1045
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: I think that I agree primary is actually probably healthy

1046
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: and we want the best person, because you know, there's

1047
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: a lot of underestimating of Joe Biden. And look, he's

1048
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: a fool, he's destroyed the country, he's all these things.

1049
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: But we're not in a fair fight. Like the systems

1050
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 2: is gamed against us. We look at the media is

1051
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: gamed against us. The FBI literally rigged the twenty twenty election.

1052
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: Democrats appended the entire political process with mail and ballots,

1053
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: you know, via COVID virus that's basically as deadly as

1054
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: the flu. They changed the entire game where now it's

1055
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: no longer about earning votes, it's just about getting ballots.

1056
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: So we're not in a fair fight, you know. And

1057
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: so like I think that there's so little room for error,

1058
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Like we have to almost have the perfect candidate, Like

1059
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: we don't get to make mistakes like the Democrats, and

1060
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: we can't hide our guy in the basement like they

1061
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: did with Joe Biden. Like you have to run a

1062
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: flawless campaign. You have to be ruthless. And you know,

1063
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: we need the best to the best. So I think

1064
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: a messy primary is healthy and we need it. And

1065
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: then in regard to the Republican Party as a whole,

1066
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: I just think like each American needs to realize that

1067
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: the country that we have loved, that we have known

1068
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: is you know, maybe changed forever, right, and so we

1069
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: had to hang on to what we have. And like

1070
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Speaker 2: our founding fathers were brilliant and the way that they

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Speaker 2: devise the country or constitution, the checks and balances first

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Speaker 2: Amendment giving us the ability to have guns, right, like

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Speaker 2: even with the second Amendment. So I think each American

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Speaker 2: needs to stand up for their beliefs and to fight

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Speaker 2: their own fight right within their communities, to try to

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Speaker 2: change minds, to speak up when they see something that

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Speaker 2: is wrong, you know, speak up in their communities. Put

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Speaker 2: pressure on your local legislators, you know, put pressure on

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Speaker 2: your you know, the state in the house, state legislatures,

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Speaker 2: you're a governor, and you know, really realize that like

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Speaker 2: the time to stand up is now. And like we're

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Speaker 2: blessed with the way or founding fathers, uh, you know

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Speaker 2: provided in the layout of the nation and devising that

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Speaker 2: that we can do this in a peaceful way. But

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Speaker 2: like the fight is now and being rooted in your beliefs,

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Speaker 2: standing up for what you believe, and you know, realizing

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Speaker 2: that we might not have the ability to speak out

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Speaker 2: in the near future, and so you know now is

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: Damn, you have me fired up. The fight is now.

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Speaker 1: The fight is now. I mean, you're exactly right. You

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Speaker 1: can't stand on the sidelines anymore. And Lisa, thank you

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Speaker 1: so so much for for for joining me and being

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Speaker 1: one of my first guests on this show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're so smart. You're such a warrior. Keep being a warrior.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching this podcast, you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: obviously watched Lisa on Fox. She's a main stay there.

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Speaker 1: She's a hell of a host. Hopefully Fox and Friends

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Speaker 1: brings you on for something more. I mean, you almost

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Speaker 1: had that wave down when you were surfing, and to

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Speaker 1: do it all in heels, that's also an added layer

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Speaker 1: a difficulty that I don't think. I'm okay. I obviously

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Speaker 1: can't do.

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Speaker 2: Uh so embarrassing about that. So when you're in it, well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I think the clock started before, or

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Speaker 2: I think the machine the surfboard started, it started moving

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Speaker 2: before they started the clock. But I was on it,

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Speaker 2: and like, oh man, I crushed that. I was on

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Speaker 2: it for forever. And then watching the clip back, it

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Speaker 2: literally looked like I was on it for a second and.

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Speaker 1: Then like you're you were off for yeah, but it

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Speaker 1: but look I watched that him like, oh damn, is

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Speaker 1: she gonna do that in heels? And you did? You

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Speaker 1: did he So.

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Speaker 3: I you know, Sean, you are the reason why this

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Speaker 3: country is free to the extent we are, and you

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Speaker 3: are quite literally an American hero willing to put your life

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Speaker 3: online for this country, right, So you know, God bless you.

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Speaker 2: Man, You're the best. So I appreciate what you've done

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Speaker 2: for this country.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're welcome. You're worth it. This country is worth it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, Lisa. God bless you, and

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Speaker 1: God bless this great country that we get to call home.

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Speaker 2: So I hope your podcast is a massive success.

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Speaker 1: So thanks Lisa, thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, bye everyone, take care.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, that's it. If you like what you heard,

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Speaker 1: please subscribe to my YouTube channel and wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts. The more subscribers we get, the more shows

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Speaker 1: we can do for you. So join the ranks of

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Speaker 1: the platoon. Follow me on Twitter at Sean Parnell USA

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Speaker 1: and on Facebook and on Instagram, and send me your comments.

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Speaker 1: I read them all. Share screenshots of the podcast I'll

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Speaker 1: share them to my social media leave reviews for me,

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Speaker 1: because obviously that helps too, And as always, I am

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Speaker 1: truly grateful for your support. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: God bless you all, and may God bless this incredible

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Speaker 1: nation we get to call home.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,