1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: App trying to see if I could find anything more 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: out on this Carvallo thing, sort of watching local news 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: coverage of it. Everybody's elbowing their way into the Clinton thing, 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: you know, the entire Epstein Clinton stuff that went down 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: the end of this week, after so long negotiating and 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: navigating that went down. We talked to Royal Oaks about 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: that last hour. The big news is the superintendent of LAUSD, ALBERTA. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Carvallo paid leave. I mean, the FBI rated his home, 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: and you know that's never a good thing, but there 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: haven't been any charges yet. So here we are two 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: days after that FBI raid and now he gets the 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: paid leave. Not clear exactly where this investigationation sits. The 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: FBI hasn't accused him of anything specific, but it does 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: appear that it's linked to this this bot that they worked, 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: this AI all. Here is the name of the company 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: and this kind of cute bot that they were using. Again, 19 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: the company's gone under, but this chat bot was going 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: to be something that would lift LAUSD and it was 21 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: functional in all these different ways. They unveiled it in 22 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty four, and then they took it down. 23 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just not successful. And the company 24 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: all here, they're called clapped financially, and the founder and 25 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: the CEO of the company was charged with defrauding investors. 26 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: So she's pleaded not guilt, but that at minimum creates 27 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: a cloud over the company. And then the deals that 28 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: the company made, and one of the deals that was 29 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: made was with la So Carvallo is in this supervisory 30 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: position with LAUSD, and so he is by association a 31 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: person of interest, meaning someone they're interested in talking to 32 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: someone they're interested apparently in to the point that they 33 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: want to raid his home. So there are those who 34 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: are saying, hey, it's a federal investigation. They have searched 35 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: his home. But you've got to slow down and don't 36 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: react immediately if you're the school board. So the school 37 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: board putting him on paid leave is doing just that. 38 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: They're not firing him, they're not suspending him without pay. 39 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean there's a cloud over him and over la 40 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: USD and this investigation. But all we know really, as 41 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: has pointed out, is that search warrants have been executed 42 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: and served of course, and you know you don't even 43 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: know why. So this is a situation in LAUSD that 44 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: is never welcome. I mean, it's a challenging program to 45 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: begin with, to maintain, and I mean just I just 46 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: think the the idea of administering to a school system 47 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: this size is an ongoing challenge. It's already controversial and 48 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: unclear as to what's going to happen from here on out. So, 49 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: by the way, I saw something, I don't have the 50 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: piece in front of me, but just on the success 51 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: story of public education in Los Angeles, I saw something 52 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: about the fact that test scor were higher. Did you 53 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: see that. 54 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: The other day? Yeah? 55 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: That was wild. I'm so used to bad news that 56 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: I was astounded by that. It was a really kind 57 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: of surprising thing when you look at all that, you know, 58 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: one has to swim upstream against. I mean, even this 59 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: chatbot thing was sort of designed to be a technology 60 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: that would interact with students and parents. I mean, again, 61 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: this may have been smoking mirrors. I don't know. He 62 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: hasn't been accused of anything. All they've done, as we said, 63 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: is placed him on paid leave and they've had an 64 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: FBI rate of his place. But the idea was in 65 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: some way to address many of the challenges with education 66 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: with technology with AI. So anyway, it's in the face 67 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: of all that when I see now kids are on 68 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: their phones, it's harder and harder to actually get them 69 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: to focus. When I see a success story, like you know, 70 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: grades of increase, Wow, it's it's really pretty impressive. So 71 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: this was a huge, huge deal that Carvallo was part of, though, 72 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this AI play was big, and this chatbot, 73 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: I mean again, it was called ed, it was brought 74 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: out with all of this fanfare, and man, it went 75 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: away so quickly. It's a multimillion dollar project. And so 76 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: you know, what happens next with LAUSD and what happens 77 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: to Carvallo next very much a question and again all 78 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: in the CEO of the company that really brought us 79 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: this chat bot. She's been charged pleading not guilty. And 80 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: this is the failure of this bold play on the 81 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: part of car Follow and LAUSD. So the Trump administration 82 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: and the first Assistant US Attorney for Southern California under 83 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: Trump says they're focusing on fraud and it is thought 84 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: that this may be part of this. Carfollow could fall 85 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: on the list of people who would be targeted. But 86 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: again he's someone who hasn't been charged. I say he 87 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: could be targeted because, let's face it, he's been very 88 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: outspoken in talking about immigrant rights, in talking about looking 89 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: into school systems and the fact that kids should have 90 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: a safe place in school where they shouldn't have to 91 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: worry about the anxieties associated with being targeted by the 92 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 2: Trump administration. So again, that being part of the narrative, 93 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: you can begin to build the fact that maybe he 94 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: could be targeted. But look, he definitely had a professional 95 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: association going back to his time with Miami Dade, and 96 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: that is to say, a professional association with the CEO 97 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: of this AI Boch company. And so again that's the 98 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: way business is done. It's a relationship. And to be 99 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: fair to him, it may be that this was the 100 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: kind of technological connection that could promote education and educational 101 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: products across LAUSD. I mean, it might have literally been 102 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 2: his effort to produce something that could be productive for 103 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: the many students and parents who are part of the 104 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: school system. Anyway, big news though, in his paid leave. 105 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: That's the breaking news of the moment. Again, the other 106 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: break story possibility of a military flex in Iran. We're 107 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: watching that, and we are watching the very real potential 108 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: of a merger between Paramount and Warner Brothers. It's a 109 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: hostile takeover, is what it is. We'll talk more about 110 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: that bottom of the hour with micro Schnader from Variety. 111 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson for John COLEBLT KFI AM six forty. We're 112 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 113 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 114 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: six forty. 115 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: Record breaking day temperature was in southern California. Really warm nineties. 116 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm seeing I guess it gets a little cooler next 117 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: couple of days. You see all these Lucids cruising around. 118 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: Lucid is a pretty sweet sexy car. They're electric cars. 119 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: Well they're high end electric cars, and they are going 120 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: to be dumping three hundred and nineteen jobs, billions in 121 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: losses from this company. They're struggling to turn a profit. 122 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely a softening of demand for electric vehicles. 123 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: Right used to be there were a lot of federal subsidies. 124 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: The money driving demand I think is all gone with 125 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: the new administration. Not so new anymore, but you know, 126 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: it pretty well went away about a year ago. They'll 127 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: take effect in April. These cuts they're part of a 128 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: twelve percent reduction in the company's workforce. They're looking to 129 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: boost efficiency. They employed about sixty eight hundred people in 130 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Lucid, Yeah, they're trying to boost their brand. 131 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: They had a Timothy Chalomet centered ad campaign to airing 132 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: across different television and digital platforms promoting the seven seat 133 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: suv called Gravity. They're really good looking cars. But again 134 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: ev EV makers are getting squeezed right now, so there 135 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: is I saw also in the Aston Martin world. I 136 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 2: always like Aston Martin because it's James Bond, so kind 137 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: of a James Bond, you know, it's a guy thing 138 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: sort of, but it's also a sexy car. They're laying 139 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: off twenty percent of their workforce worldwide, so it's definitely 140 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: a time of constriction when it comes to economies worldwide. 141 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: And all of this happening as President Trump is bringing 142 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: a huge amount of hardware to the Middle East. I mean, 143 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: this is a it was hard. It's hard to imagine 144 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: that you could bring this amount of hardware to the 145 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: Middle East and wouldn't have something happen. So now with 146 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: the expectation of something happening. Israeli embassy personnel from this 147 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: country is being told by Mike Huckabee, who's the ambassador 148 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: to Israel, that they can leave, and if they're going 149 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: to leave, they ought to leave today. The one thing 150 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: about Middle Eastern threats, and I feel as though Donald 151 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: Trump has issued a threat. Right he'd said, you better 152 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: stop the bloodshed. Iran's massacred somewhere in the order of 153 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: twenty thousand demonstrators, and Donald Trump said he's going to 154 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: ride to the rescue of these protesters, said quote literally, 155 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: help is on the way, and urge them to remain 156 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: on the streets. The one thing that's scary, and it 157 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: can be a very tricky thing, and happened to Obama. 158 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: Remember what Obama said to the Syrians, don't cross that 159 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: red line by using chemical weapons against your own people. 160 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: And then chemical weapons were used and Obama didn't do anything, 161 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: and it really ruined his credibility. And Trump may find 162 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: himself in that situation where you're, you know, you're kind 163 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: of bombastic, you're leaning in with big threats, and now 164 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: you move in all this hardware into the Middle East, 165 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: this armada that's offshore, and he may be forced to 166 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: do something. It's scary. I mean, this is the largest 167 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: concentration of American military firepower since the early two thousands. 168 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: So the crisis really feels as though it's coming to 169 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: a head. And he has had good luck with Iran, right, 170 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: He had that obliteration, as he calls it, of Iran's 171 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: nuclear program. And I think on some level, doesn't it 172 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: feel as though President Trump is kind of you know, 173 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: he did the Venezuela thing. These flexes are working. I 174 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: think Iran is a dangerous, dangerous shot. But on the 175 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: other hand, he seems committed to some kind of situation here. 176 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: The problem is just the last point that the goal 177 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: here is not clear. Are you is this regime change? 178 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: What is his goal? And launching something without a clear 179 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: goal is just a prescription for trouble. We've just seen 180 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: it over and over again. So again, if this strike 181 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: is as complicated as it likely is, because Iran is 182 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: not a pushover and it involves more than just drones, 183 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: and then there'll be return fire in the form of 184 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: drones on both American air bases and military bases in 185 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: the region. There are a lot of them, and this 186 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: strike kills Americans and American troops. It's going to be 187 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: a much more difficult back walk that Donald Trump does. 188 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: And he can begin this war with a lot of support, 189 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: but I think you can end this war, and the 190 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: problem with ending the war in a much more problematic 191 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: way and a much more complicated way if you can 192 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: end it at all. So that's the situation now in 193 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: the Middle East, and again Middle Eastern personnel in israela 194 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: being told, Hey, this is if you're going to leave, 195 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: you should leave. Now Instagram is telling parents that if 196 00:14:52,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: teens mention suicide, they will get a notification through text. 197 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: So parents finally are getting some relief from the world 198 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: of Meta. Remember Meta owns WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and one 199 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: of the big problems with AI is that their relationships 200 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: form there. Even though it's a machine, there's a real 201 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: world of relationships. And so now Instagram is saying that 202 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: there is going to be an alert if teens repeatedly 203 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: search for suicide or self harm related terms quote. Our 204 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: goal is to empower parents to step in if their 205 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: teen searches suggest that they may need support, parents will 206 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: receive a notification through text. They'll also have the option 207 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: to view resources to help them with sensitive conversations with 208 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: their teen. One of the problems is teens feel isolated. 209 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: Of course, they feel super connected through Instagram, they feel 210 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: super connected through WhatsApp, and they feel connected. And this 211 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: is the scary thing with AI, and AI talks to 212 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: them through these large language models in a way that 213 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: literally makes them seem as though they're a pal. And 214 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: as you know, this is being litigated now. That was 215 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: one of the things that Mark Zuckerberg was in court 216 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: litigating the idea somehow that you could have a teen 217 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: that vulnerable, involved in a back and forth with AI, 218 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: with Instagram, with any number of social media platforms, and 219 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: not know it as a parent, and that teen is 220 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: involved in self harm. That's scary anyway, that's the latest 221 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: from Instagram. They're saying that parents will be notified. So 222 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 2: there's a big, big to tell you, big merger underway. 223 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: It's the hospital takeover really of Paramount's move on Warner Brothers. 224 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: It will have super super important repercussions here in southern California, 225 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: but also across the media escape both in this country 226 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: and worldwide. Paramount will they get the green light to 227 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: indeed acquire Warner Brothers. We will talk about that next 228 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: with the executive editor of Variety, Mark Thompson, sitting in 229 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: on KFI for John Colebelt. We're live everywhere on the 230 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 231 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM 232 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: six forty. 233 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson's sitting in for John Cobelt. I've been talking 234 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: about this all day, been thinking about this since this 235 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: whole merger thing began, and finally I get to talk 236 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: to a super smart guy who actually knows the ins 237 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: and outs of this from Variety executive editor Michael Schneider's 238 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: on the line. And what I'm talking about is this 239 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: merger that looks like it's poised to happen between Paramount 240 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: sky Dance and Warner Brothers of Netflix backing out of 241 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: this deal. You wrote a whole column about this, and 242 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: I wonder if you could, in a sense summarize some 243 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: of the concerns here and explain how this deal would 244 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: go down. Hi, Michael sure. 245 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: Mark Thompson. By the way, first off, you saying my name, 246 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: It's like Budda here and you just say my name. 247 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: I just. 248 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: Mark Thompson's voice. 249 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: Thanksving for me that's so cool to have you here. 250 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 251 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it is it is pretty crazy what's going 252 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: on right now. And I think the entire town is 253 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: sort of up in arms because no one really knows 254 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 5: what's going on. This shocked everyone on Thursday, and we're 255 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 5: also trying to put the pieces together on Okay, what 256 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 5: does this mean? What comes next? And why is this 257 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: happening so fast? So yeah, there are so many different 258 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 5: angles to to dissect. 259 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, let me just let me just 260 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: let me just help you navigate some of this stuff, 261 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 2: and just in terms of the conversation since our time 262 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: is way short. But one of the things that's curious, 263 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: and you sort of just noted it, is that Netflix 264 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: pulled away from the deal, or that, if you will, 265 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: Paramount stepped up so bigly that Netflix didn't feel even 266 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: compelled to try to match the offer. Can you explain 267 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: the dynamics there? 268 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to some degree, what Netflix said is 269 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 5: the truth, and that they didn't necessarily need the heft 270 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 5: of Warner Brothers. They they thought it was at the 271 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 5: right price, a good deal for them, that they they 272 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 5: would have liked the IP, the you know, the intellectual 273 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 5: property they were they were game for it. They wanted 274 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: to make Netflix bigger, but at the right price. And 275 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: at the point that the Ellisons and Paramount sky Dance 276 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 5: pushed the price over the line of what they thought 277 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 5: made financial sense, they decided to just pull out and 278 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: pull out pretty fast. And and you know, I think 279 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 5: you know, they benefited from that today because the Netflix 280 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 5: stock price was way up, So it seems seemed to 281 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: be a smart move for them to just get out. 282 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly the street thought, oh good, they didn't take 283 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: on this thing that would have been maybe too big 284 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: a thing and maybe not worth the trouble. And now 285 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: talk about what that thing is. So Warner Brothers is 286 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: a studio, just like Paramount is a studio. So you 287 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: have a studio acquiring another studio. We'll get to the 288 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: cable properties and all that stuff in a second. But 289 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: these mergers, they always say, oh, we're going to treat 290 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: them as two separate entities. But it's really you know, 291 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: it's going to become one big studio, isn't it. 292 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the question is will it even be a 293 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: big studio? So you're bringing these two companies together, both 294 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: of which have a lot of debt that they're saddled 295 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 5: with You combine it and there's going to be eighty 296 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 5: billion dollars worth of debt. That then your Paramount Skuydeest 297 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: is going to have to figure out how do we 298 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: pay that down? And that usually means a lot of cuts, 299 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: a lot of layoffs, a lot of trims, and maybe 300 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: they sell one of the lots. You know, there's a 301 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 5: lot of things they're going to have to do to 302 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: bring down that debt. And that means it's one plus 303 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 5: one does not equal to. 304 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to Michael Schneider from Variety about this 305 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: huge deal of the idea that Paramount is going to 306 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: buy Warner Bros. And I'll get to the green lighting 307 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: and you know, the government approval and all of that 308 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: stuff in a second. So included in this, as you've 309 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: mentioned these studios, in the studio lots and the properties 310 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: and the intellectual property, but there are cable entities, powerful 311 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: cable entities and broadcast entities associated with this. Can you 312 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: speak to that. 313 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, in particular, you know, Paramount has a stable of 314 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: cable networks. Once upon a time where the jewels now 315 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 5: not so much. We live in an era where MTV 316 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 5: and Comedy Central, just they're not what they used to be. 317 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: That's the same on Warner Brothers side. You know, they've 318 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 5: got TLC and ht TV and PBS, but those channels 319 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: just aren't worth what they used to be. As a 320 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: matter of fact, Warner Brothers was planning on spinning off 321 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 5: those cable networks into a separate company to get it 322 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 5: off their books. So you're going to have this massive 323 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: stable of cable networks, none of which are really worth 324 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: all that much anymore, that they'll probably eventually still spin 325 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: off into a separate company. And we're not even talking 326 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: about CNN. That's a whole separate conversation. 327 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm beat you mentioned CNN though, because among these properties 328 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: that would be spun off or retained is CNN. And 329 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: CNN now is relevant on a political level because CNN 330 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: is not like a Fox News channel and some of 331 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: these right leaning, even some would say propaganda filled cable companies, 332 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: like cable outlets, CNN is kind of more tact at 333 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: least they represent themselves more towards the center. So for 334 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: that reason, they are seen I think by the current 335 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: administration and Donald Trump as adversaries. Now those adversaries would 336 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: fall into the hands of the Ellisons, and the Ellisons 337 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: are pals of the Trump's, very much pals of the Trumps, 338 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: and they may want to hang on to CNN and 339 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: make it sort of a Fox News four point zero 340 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: or what would be the play there. 341 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the big question because we've already seen that 342 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: the the Elessons in purchasing CBS and Paramount have kind 343 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 5: of pushed CBS News more to the right, and so 344 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 5: the question is what is their plan with CNN. You know, 345 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 5: an argument could be made that sure they could try 346 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 5: to push CNN to the right, but then whatever viewership 347 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: is still left with CNN will just go away, And 348 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: do they want to kill it's still very profitable and 349 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 5: valuable cable network, you know, just to play Kate Donald Trump, 350 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 5: especially once this deal gets through and they don't necessarily 351 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 5: have to play games with the administration anymore. But at 352 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 5: the same time, they are very tight with the Trumps, 353 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: and this was one reason why the feeling was Trump 354 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: was definitely leaning towards Paramount, Skydance buying Warner Brothers because 355 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 5: he has a very specific interest in CNN. 356 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea was sort of he had his thumb 357 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: on the scale, so the whole idea. I mean, I 358 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: love this new argument. By the way, I super love 359 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: the idea somehow. I mean, just as a narrative. I 360 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: love the idea that they need the administration, they wanted 361 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: the administration's help, and then once the deal goes through, 362 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: they hang on the CNN and they just leave it 363 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: the way it is. I think that's very funny. I 364 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: don't think it would happen, but I just think I 365 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: just love the narrative. But I just I like it 366 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: also that the conversation is, well, it's still very possible 367 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: that it won't get green lit by the administration. Really, 368 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: I think there is zero possibility it wouldn't be green lit. 369 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: The acquisition of Warner Brothers. 370 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think the government, you know, pretty much 371 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: it's already a done deal. The only question is what 372 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: happens overseas. You know, there needs to be some sort 373 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 5: of approval in the European Union as well, because these 374 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: they have international assets. And then there's the question of 375 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: you know, there are some states attorneys general, including here 376 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 5: in California, who may sue and may gum up the 377 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: approval process for some period of time. I think the 378 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 5: general feeling is This will eventually happen, but when And 379 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 5: things are moving so fast right now it feels like 380 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: it's going to happen tomorrow. But there's still a lot 381 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 5: that needs to be done before this deal is actually completed. 382 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Michael and our just last sight, we're talking to MIKEL 383 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: Snader from Variety, and this Paramount Warner Brothers merger does 384 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: all the things you've talked about, and it creates all 385 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: of these sort of tentacles into all of these different 386 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: areas of the entertainment industry. I just can't help but 387 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: think about our community. You know that these are real 388 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: people who work for these studios at Warner Brothers and 389 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: at Paramount, and they we're already in a position of 390 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: seeing these industries dry up and even move to other places. 391 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: But I wonder if you could just speak to the 392 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: community at large, to Southern California and the economic effects 393 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: of all of this on that. 394 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. 395 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: This is the most concerning part of it all is 396 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 5: that this is a community that's already reeling from you know, 397 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: we had COVID, then we had the strikes, then we 398 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: had the fires. We've seen so much production move away 399 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 5: already across the country, and now overseas, we've got studios 400 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: that already are virtually empty. Right now, there's not a 401 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 5: ton of production going on here in Los Angeles. The 402 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: production is way down. So the idea of losing a 403 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: major studio and what happens to all that production once 404 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: these companies merge, and you know they're they're clearly not 405 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 5: going to combine produce as much as they did individually, 406 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 5: it just means more more concern for you know, the 407 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 5: bread and butter of Hollywood and all these jobs. You 408 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: know that people are already out of work here in LA. 409 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: This just this concerns me a great deal, and I'm 410 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 5: sure concerns a lot of people a great deal. 411 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's really the from a community standpoint, 412 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: the grimmest part of all of this, as you say, 413 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: against a backdrop of a lot of bad news over 414 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: the last few years. Well, I so enjoyed our conversation. 415 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to link to it on my social media, 416 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: which will mean nothing to you because not a lot 417 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: of people following me, but my five followers are going 418 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: to get a lot out of your piece and variety 419 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: as Paramount Skydance grabs Warner Brothers and Netflix bows out 420 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: the mood inside all three Champagne toasts versus Gut Punch. Yeah, 421 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: Champagne off of Melrose there at Paramount and Gut Punch 422 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: in Burbank at Warner Brothers. I love talking to Michael Schnyder. 423 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Let's do it again. 424 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I follow you on social media. Mark Tonto, 425 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: that's good. 426 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. That's another one. You know, you've 427 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: got to build an empire one at a time. Thank you, 428 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: all right, appreciate your time. Yep, Michael Schnader from Variety. 429 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: We are KFI AM six forty. It is the co 430 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Belt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in for John Today Live 431 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 432 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 433 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: six forty. 434 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: Tim Conway Junior Day. 435 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 6: Hey, thank you man. I appreciate that. Buddy, the blazer 436 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 6: of the night. Thank you very Yeah you are. You 437 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 6: are sounding so comfy at night. 438 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate that. Yeah, 439 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: you're right. 440 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 6: Love is when you have a guy on from Variety 441 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 6: and you both agree that CNN is right down the middle. 442 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: Of the road. What would you call what would you 443 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: call it? 444 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 6: Oh, come on, buddy, I don't want to get into 445 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 6: it with you, but I well, you're the one who 446 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 6: started when I didn't start. 447 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: A you and that douce bag. 448 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: From now it's on. Now it's on, man. 449 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, CNN is right down the middle. You gotta 450 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 6: be kidding. 451 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: Well what I actually said, if you want to really 452 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: get to what it when you say I said, they 453 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: like to think of themselves as right down the hall. 454 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll take that shit. No, I'm serious, that's 455 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: what I said. 456 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 6: I heard him on last night on the news talking 457 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 6: about CNN is down the middle and that, you know, 458 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 6: because in politic with CNN you can go Trump Hitler, 459 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: Trump Hitler, Trump Saittler, Trump Hitler, and then some guy. 460 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: Goes, I don't think he's that. I don't think he's 461 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: exactly like Hitler. You go, oh, right wing guy, right guy. 462 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, but you know, 463 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: but look, I don't know. I didn't see the Hitler thing. 464 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: But when people when people refer to him as Hitler, 465 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 6: that's got to drive people who have had or are 466 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 6: Jewish crazy. 467 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: Did I mean, did you're seeing references to the fact 468 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: that he's Hitler on CNN. 469 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, okay, let's okay. 470 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: Well at the point, I could probably find a dozen 471 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 6: references on CNN to somebody who made the reference that 472 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 6: they're ss or Hitler. But okay, that aside, millions of 473 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 6: people are calling Trump Hitler. But that's got to be 474 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 6: that's got to drive Jewish people crazy because it reduces 475 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 6: the actual. 476 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: Horror that Hitler. 477 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're brought onto the Jewish people absolutely right, you know, 478 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 6: because if kids hear that, if kids say that, you know, 479 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 6: kids here, okay, Trump is Hitler, Trump is Hitler, then 480 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 6: the kids are like, well, why are they the Jews. 481 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: All crazy about this? Then, you know, if he's you 482 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: know it doesn' yeah, I mean. 483 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: I think I think you know it je I mean, 484 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't. This is kind of a generic conversation. It's 485 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: not really and I don't know this specific situation or conversation. 486 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: But I understand what you're saying, because there is talk 487 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: of kind of an authoritarian flex on the part of 488 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: Trump and stuff, and so I get what you're saying. 489 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 6: Look, I get being critical of the guy, but the 490 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 6: Trump stuff is where over the line, because where do 491 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 6: you how do you limbo under that? You know, if 492 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 6: Trump went Okay, let's say this. Let's say Trump went 493 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 6: to San Francisco and was killing a thousand liberals a day. 494 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 6: Then you go, oh, man, that guy's Hitler, Like, oh yeah, 495 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 6: but you called him Hitler before he killed a thousand 496 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 6: liberals a day. 497 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's still Hitler. 498 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't. 499 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 6: I don't know, don't. I don't know how I would. 500 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: I'd say, you're It makes me crazy that when anyone 501 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 6: describes anybody else on planet or that there Hitler. 502 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no one on this show did. I didn't say it. 503 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: I've never said it, and I also don't, and he 504 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: didn't say it. Our guests didn't say it. But what 505 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: he said was, we're talking about when Warner Brothers is 506 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: purchased by Paramount the merger, will they kind of remain 507 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: as they say that as sort of they think of 508 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: themselves as the way we put it as middle of 509 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: the road, or will they become Fox you know, four 510 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: point zero, like Fox News Channel. So that's really that question. Yeah, like, well, 511 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: what do you what do you how do you think 512 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: it's going to shakeout or do you have any thought 513 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: on that or not? 514 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 6: Really I try to Politics makes me crazy, so I 515 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 6: try it to get into a penny. 516 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: But that was the context of the entire conversation, right. 517 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 6: But I will say that CNN is you know, it's 518 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: always They've always been the leader in international breaking news. 519 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 6: You know, whenever there's a war going on in Venezuela 520 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 6: or Iraq, you know, they were always the one to 521 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: go to, you know, big news station when international news happened. 522 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 6: And I think the United States is going to bomb 523 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: a Ran this weekend, No, it sure does seem that way. 524 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 6: There's a more hardware there than they've told everybody to 525 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 6: get out, and they're flying F twenty two's over to Jordan, 526 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 6: and F twenty twos have to fly every day or 527 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 6: they start to break down. 528 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: What do you think the idea is there? I don't know, 529 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: but I. 530 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 6: Will say that, you know, you can't bring F twenty twos, 531 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 6: these raptors over to the Middle East without flying them 532 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 6: every day. The longer they sit on the runway, the 533 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 6: more they break down, and so they've got to fly 534 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 6: every day. So I think it's going to be this weekend. Well, 535 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 6: I'm the same way, tim Uh. I have to fly 536 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 6: every day. I've got to I've got to get this 537 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 6: thing out. This body has got to be out moving 538 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: every day otherwise, I body, You've got it. You must 539 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 6: have a beautiful day to day. You have a pool 540 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 6: at your house, I do it overlooks the valley. 541 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: I've worked very hard, tim But you know what I 542 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: noticed we used to. 543 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm not getting down you before. 544 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: I wish I had a pool, but I will could 545 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: come over any time and use mine. In fact, you 546 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: know I've invite you all the time. 547 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: Can I? 548 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: I will tell you when we lived in Tarzana and 549 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 6: we had a pool, I secretly wrote down how many 550 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 6: days my wife and daughter used it in the year, 551 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 6: and it was eight. 552 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: It is true that your your vision of how much 553 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: you'll use the pool, you never use it is definitely 554 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: how many times? 555 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: How many long? How long you've been at your house? 556 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: What four years? Now? 557 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: How many times have you been in the pool? 558 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. A bunch of times but not 559 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: not but not a big enough bunch that you know 560 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: you justifies it? No, no, no, what we solar heated. 561 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: It's really expensive to hear a pool. Okay, But also 562 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: I remember I hated a pool for a party back 563 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: at my other place that's now you know that burned 564 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: in the in the fires. And I used to sit 565 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: there at night, and you know, when you're heating it 566 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: was it was for parties. You have to the way 567 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: you heat a pool, you got to heat over multiple days, 568 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: you know this, right, in order to get the water. Yeah, 569 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: you have to get the water water. So you can't. Yeah, 570 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: you can't just like heat it like on a on 571 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: a Tuesday and expected to be warm on a Friday. 572 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: So anyway, so it was heating, and I was heating 573 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: for this party on the weekend. And I remember as 574 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: it got cool at night, seeing the steam coming off 575 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: of that, I just thought, that's money. That's just evaporating 576 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: off of that tool water right now. Yeah, I only 577 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: could see the money. I just couldn't enjoy the pool. 578 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: Does the steam come up in money signs? That's what 579 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying in my mind. It does, in my mind, 580 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: it really does. 581 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 6: Conway, Okay, wait one more quick second. Yeah, I will 582 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 6: say the pools have changed over the last couple of 583 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 6: years or a decade or so, and now everything's run 584 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 6: on an app. That's it's crazy, man, And and they 585 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 6: always break down, they brain you cannot the problem with 586 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 6: the it's not the app that's a problem. 587 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: It's that it needs to speak to your pool equipment 588 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: via your WiFi, and the Wi Fi antenna is out 589 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: there and it's exposed to the elements. Mind just broke 590 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: the other day. 591 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: What do you pay your pool guy a month? 592 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: Oh? 593 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: Does he come weekly? 594 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: He comes weekly? 595 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: Is he splash and dash guys? 596 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: I think he does a good job. We have I 597 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: have some I have a couple of water features there 598 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: at the Mark Thompson's States. An interested at the pool. 599 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 2: I have him look at the water features. Maintenance involved. 600 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: I know Eric. We need to wrap up. Eric needs 601 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: to get out of here to it. Thanks. Fine, Please 602 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 2: come visit the Thompson State sometime, all of you invite 603 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: all right, co Belt's back on Monday. Thank you. Conway's 604 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: next Mark Thompson. KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 605 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 606 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the John Cobelts Show podcast, you 607 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 608 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: forty from three to six pm every Monday through Friday, 609 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 610 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 4: KFI AM six More stimulating talk m