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Speaker 3: Roddy you can find at Ian Roddy Underscore Funky Week

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Speaker 3: squared away. If we don't feel free to let us

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Speaker 3: Roddy Underscore. But hopefully everything is squared away, unlike my

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Speaker 3: fantasy team that is not. In Week eleven, the Long

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Speaker 3: Term League took quite a hit. I was one of

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Speaker 3: the many people who got Josh Allen this past weekend.

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Speaker 2: Mike Buccaneers Bills was the.

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Speaker 3: Exciting points of palooza, which, by the way, I completely.

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Speaker 2: Struck out on.

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Speaker 3: I may even skip the report cards at the end

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Speaker 3: because of how bad it was.

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Speaker 4: But I got plenty. I got a lot of red

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, outside of all outs out of

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Speaker 3: the Buffalo and Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a funky week with not as much

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Speaker 2: scoring as we would have hoped.

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Speaker 4: Around the NFL, A lot of field goal kickers, So

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Speaker 4: if you still have a kicker in your league, then

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Speaker 4: maybe you were excited there. You know, you're Cairo Santos

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Speaker 4: of the world and all I mean, you know in

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Speaker 4: Seattle a bunch of field goals there, and you know

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh put up a big point total. Jacksonville in a

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Speaker 4: very odd game against the Charge Like that was just

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Speaker 4: a weird follow Yeah, just the ebb and flow of

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Speaker 4: that game. A couple of dicker Field goals or all

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Speaker 4: you got on the Chargers side. But you know, Houston,

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Speaker 4: Tennessee is sixteen thirteen. The Carolina Atlanta game was insane.

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Speaker 4: Anybody see Bryce Young going for four hundred plus, No,

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Speaker 4: he had one two hundred yard game coming into this week,

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Speaker 4: for crying out loud, Green Bay and the Giants was

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Speaker 4: just an extreme game where suddenly it broke through a

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Speaker 4: perhaps if you're in Jordan, love with your QB. Finished

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Speaker 4: eighth for the week, and then the happy return of

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Speaker 4: Brock Purty. But yeah, I mean, just some weirdness overall.

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Speaker 4: up for week eleven. Some strange bedfellows certainly at this point,

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Speaker 4: and normally that happens where we have a lot of

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Speaker 4: it escalated quickly.

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Speaker 2: I also think division matchups played a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of a role in this sure, right, Yeah that makes

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Speaker 3: sense because there's a little bit more at stake. Not

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Speaker 3: that teams don't want to score touchdowns in those situations,

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Speaker 3: and think that happened and Bears Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Happened in Texans Titans. I just I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: sixteen thirteen ballgame. And I understand Davis Mills is the

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Speaker 3: quarterback of the Texans, but he's not the he's Davis

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Speaker 3: Mills is fine for what he is. Davis Mills is fine.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned Seahawks and Rams as well. Of that twenty one

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Speaker 3: Not all division matchups were like that. You mentioned forty

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Speaker 4: For four hum yards, I got Bryce Young and Jacoby Brissett. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, No, Michael Wilson ended up being the play for

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Speaker 3: what could happen in week thirteen. But when I look

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Speaker 4: Five starts for Jacoby Brissett, nineteen point four points are

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Speaker 4: How about that? So he's you have a buy in

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Speaker 2: Hmm, it's throwing two touchdown passes in every single start.

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Speaker 4: So now you look at the offense, and I know

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Speaker 4: and obviously Trey McBride is absolutely feasted. We had that

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Speaker 3: It's it's crazy. It the the Kyler Murray era has

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Speaker 3: there throw for you know, four hundred and fifty some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just absolutely insane. I mean to look at a

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Speaker 4: You had four quarterbacks top twenty points this week, Brissette

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Speaker 4: Purty tied for fifth at nineteen point three, and then

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what you know that begets a larger thing.

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Speaker 4: If we want to go there, and you mentioned Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: There's a guy that is playing what at seventy percent?

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Speaker 4: He does not look anywhere near the Lamar Jackson were

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Speaker 4: that did not exist in Sundays hell. The fact that

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Speaker 4: outside for that game winning run, I'd buy that in

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Speaker 4: on your Bengo card. But Mark Andrews game winning touchdown run.

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Speaker 4: really nifty move. But if Lamar Jackson's healthy, you're telling

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Speaker 4: me he's not doing that himself or trying. So I

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Speaker 4: mean the fact that those plays have all come in

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Speaker 4: terrible short yardage runner. But you know, for Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And ultimately it's one of the things that is

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Speaker 3: just know where they're not going to be in February,

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Speaker 2: In the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just sure, you know, you know, like it's

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Speaker 3: because they're just they're they're not that team. And if

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Speaker 3: just they're they're not going to go places. Plus there's

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Speaker 3: that in that log jam, Yeah, the the Ravens may

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Speaker 3: but even if you're struggling with Cleveland to that point,

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Speaker 3: you know, no, right that who tells you, you know

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Speaker 3: Gabriel to get knocked out and should or Sanders to

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Speaker 3: falling their place to leave with a touchdown victory on.

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Speaker 4: Sunday, succeed and proceed, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and then the red gigs that you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Ian, but Justin Fields gets benched.

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Speaker 3: You know, compared to everybody else in week eleven, Justin

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Speaker 3: Fields is not too bad fantasy wise, but he just

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Speaker 3: doesn't have a job going into week twelve.

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Speaker 5: Real life wise though. It's about time, right, But that's.

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Speaker 4: The hard part. Like Smith and I talked about it

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Speaker 4: a little bit on our show Monday Night on the Network,

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Speaker 4: and it's just the there's those couple plays a game

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Speaker 4: where his athleticism shines through, right, and it's like that

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Speaker 4: he's that guy and Dan you know this going back

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Speaker 4: the Bears. There are times and possessions where you're enamored

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a time out here look more

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Speaker 2: That's all coming up next here, and I want your.

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Speaker 4: Right now, that's it. You could do the whole berminism whoops, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that you can give it a complete mulligan, but you're

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00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 4: trying to unlearn anything that was impartant there for Ben Johnson,

435
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: and I think they've struck a pretty good bargain that

436
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 4: there will be better days. I just don't think they

437
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 4: happen until twenty twenty six. They've got enough of a

438
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: personnel and a defense that takes the ball away a ton,

439
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 4: but it's it's gonna be so difficult, like this next stretch,

440
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: just laying out that, and even in the final when

441
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 4: you get into the playoff weeks, San Francisco is sitting

442
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 4: there at the back end, even without Bosa uh and Warner,

443
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: there's there's still a pretty good unit. Thanks it's after

444
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: it for Robert Salas so Uh, that's it's a no

445
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: fly zone. So it's one of those I think I'd

446
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 4: grabbed my popcorn, uh, and maybe you got to play

447
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 4: on the dunesday the run game. As you say, with

448
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: Swift and Manungui Uh, they're up to number two on

449
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: the year in terms of yards per game, behind Buffalo

450
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 4: of all teams, which is kind of weird, but you're

451
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 4: looking at you know, just opportunity. Sure is gonna be tough.

452
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: I think in those situations too, you look at I mean,

453
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: Williams is mobile enough to get the yards and if

454
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: you've got the tandem like you do there. So in

455
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 3: Buffalo you've got Josh Allen and James Cook. When you

456
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: know when James Cook Cook is getting the football, Yeah,

457
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: it makes a sense, you know, a little bit of sense.

458
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: And one that running game is going. That stood out

459
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: to me for a couple of reasons. Also because JJ

460
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: McCarthy just stinks like he's no good. He even with

461
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: these fourth quarter comebacks and he makes some of these

462
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: throws and it's acrobatic catches, but the football is nowhere

463
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: near where it needs to be. When you looked at

464
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: the stat lines, they weren't as different from each other.

465
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 3: Actually it felt like they were played completely different games.

466
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 3: But the numbers, and that's what we deal with in fantasy,

467
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: were actually a little bit more similar than we would

468
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: have realized. That's what kind of stood out for me

469
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 3: on the bear side of things for Week twelve.

470
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Speaker 4: Well, I'll take that other side for a second. Ago

471
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: Dan McCarthy, how many did he leave on the field,

472
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: I mean Addison a couple of times, Jefferson like just

473
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: go and down checking the boxes of wide open receivers.

474
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 3: I there is a TikTok and I gosh, I could

475
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: I could give the person credit.

476
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: They did. They did the top five worst throws of

477
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: week eleven.

478
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 5: You saw that too, I do, because he actually does

479
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 5: it every week. But he but he chooses a different

480
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 5: player to sort of and it's like, yeah, it's it's

481
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: just yeah, and coming in at number five, it's JJ

482
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 5: McCarthy with this throw.

483
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 4: To coming in at number four.

484
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 5: It's JJ McCarthy who had this throw coming at number three.

485
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 5: It's actually gonna be JJ McCarthy coming in all the

486
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 5: way down to number one.

487
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: Uh he did drop a JJ nine because of that

488
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: stupid alter ego.

489
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Speaker 2: Crap, Oh my goodness, but yeah.

490
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: That was he probably gott to really find who this

491
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: guy is because I gotta, oh, here it is, all right,

492
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: sure enough, Uh lewis fantalize.

493
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: That's that's who it is. That's great.

494
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: But JJ JJ McCarthy got the uh got the ribbing

495
00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: in in week eleven. But all right, but justin Jefferson,

496
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: I've got shares and that's that's a frustrating proposition.

497
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: That's just yeah, man, you look at him and at

498
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: this point, it's it's tough, like he's he's a w

499
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 4: R two based on his quarterback like and normally we

500
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: could say, okay, you've got opportunities count Well, we watched

501
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: him get open repeatedly against a pretty good secondary. Right,

502
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: the Bears are banged up a little bit, but I mean,

503
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: Jefferson should have had a monster game, Addison should have

504
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: had a monster game, and they they didn't in a

505
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 4: plus spot because that's the one thing the Bears have

506
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: been I mean, they've been opportunistic with the turnovers. But

507
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: you can move the ball on him, like we've watched

508
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: it all year long and he just missing wide open throws. Now,

509
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: will that get better? I'm sure as hell not. Wait around,

510
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about fantasy trade deadline coming up, I

511
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: think i'd be looking justin Jefferson's last double digit game

512
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: came before their like the last five weeks. You got

513
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: one that's right on the border of ten.

514
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, the touchdown, like and they got like forty yards.

515
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: It gets the Lions.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. Otherwise we're talking seven nine, seven four three, seven, six,

517
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: one like and even before that. I mean, obviously it's

518
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: a rough year. He's currently twenty ninth, or he was

519
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: twenty ninth this week, I should say, for the year.

520
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: When we we go on down the line and you know,

521
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: looking at half PPR for the year, I mean he's

522
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: still at sixteen. Great, so you know, barely double digits

523
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: for a couple of those, but that's in. You know,

524
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: when you're adding starting to add in the points per suf,

525
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: you're just looking at it from a straight you know,

526
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 4: what kind of output are we getting. You're not getting much?

527
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: No, not at all. T J.

528
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 3: Hopkinson's value dropped. Anything that Jordan Addison had has gone

529
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Speaker 3: out the window. You know, Jalen Naylor had a couple

530
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: of catches the week prior, but you're not playing him

531
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Speaker 3: at all. There's just no reason to to play anybody

532
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: in that receiving core.

533
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we're gonna play Justin Jefferson.

534
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, right, remember when Jordan Mason was running

535
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: like running over people that Aaron Jones comes back and

536
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, Jordan Mason is your five carries?

537
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 5: Well got the worst part, the worst part about all

538
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: of it is that they could have had Sam Darnold,

539
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 5: as we know, and we've talked about, they could have

540
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: had Daniel Jones, they could have had Aaron Rodgers this offseason,

541
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 5: and they passed on all of those to.

542
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 4: See what the Rogers was in the mix too.

543
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: And this is a win now football team. It's not

544
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: like this is a team that's, you know, structured to

545
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 5: see what you have in a young quarterback. It's structured

546
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: to win the Super Bowl.

547
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: Dare I say a cheating scandal that aided the Michigan

548
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: Wolverines and screwed the rest of college football also screwed

549
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings.

550
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 4: Done Dune, done, nicely done. It's all Jim Harball's fault, right,

551
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: He's also the guy that hyped up JJ McCarthy called

552
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: him the college court terbacky.

553
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, when they probably should have had three or

554
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: four losses in that but they knew everybody's plays. Anyway,

555
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: moving on, what stood up for you guys in Week eleven?

556
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: Well, I think you know the strange bedfellows when we

557
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: start talking about the point totals. The quarterback position is

558
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: just such a mess. Right, we're already at that point.

559
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: It's week twelve, when we're into what are we have

560
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: fifty some odd starters right as we get ready for

561
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: week twelve, and we look at Shador Sanders, we look

562
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: at Kirk Cousins coming back with no Drake London to

563
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: throw to you. Yay, that'll be thrilling as they ride

564
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: that losing streak. I mean, is good to see Brock

565
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: perty and Ricky piersoll back, so maybe you're feeling better.

566
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: I mean, George Kittle has a monster game, so perhaps

567
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: with Purty under center, they feel better with Kittle being

568
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: a receiver rather than staying home to block as we've

569
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: seen him in weeks past. Not that you didn't get

570
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: decent returns, but maybe this unleashes him for the second

571
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: half of the year. But overall, just the unevenness of

572
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback position, which is so vital to the flow

573
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: of everything, Like it's just so erratic at this point

574
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: on a week to week basis that it's going to

575
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 4: make for a really interesting stretch run. And especially as

576
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: we're looking at Guilletine leagues, what those winning leagues look like,

577
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: in the winning teams look like at the end that

578
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: are able to survive, And obviously it's a bastardization, you know,

579
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: in the process as you're picking up guys off dead

580
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 4: teams and all. So maybe you know some of that

581
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: just budget budgeting really plays that big a role. But

582
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see some really wild teams

583
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: of guys that emerged in these final weeks that are

584
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: going to take home prizes all over the place.

585
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: You know, this week, somebody's got to replace Justin Herbert

586
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: in their starting lineup because of the bye week by

587
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: that the Chargers have. The week thirteen is going to

588
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: be a full week. NFL doesn't give any buys during

589
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving week, But we jump over to week fourteen,

590
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: which is the end of the regular season for many leagues.

591
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: You know, Drake May is going to be on the

592
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: bench at that point.

593
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: So it's almost like the quarterbacks that you're wondering, you know,

594
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: take one step lower now because you're going to be

595
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: sands a quarterback or some teams are going to be

596
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: in week fourteen something to by the way, mark your

597
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: calendars and look ahead to. But yeah, it has been

598
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: a it has been a messed up year. Even Daniel Jones,

599
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: they're coming off of their bye is kind of come

600
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: back down to earth. You know, I mentioned him earlier

601
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: and just in watching him play like he you know,

602
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: his yards do come easier than Caleb Williams do in

603
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: the air. But it's not the crazy stuff that we

604
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: saw earlier on in the season for you know, from

605
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: someone like Jones either.

606
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least a little higher floor. But yeah, your

607
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: point's well taken, right, the heroics of early season, and

608
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: we'll see what happen happens with Jonathan Taylor down the stretch.

609
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm hoping he's a monster all the way through Week

610
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: eighteen and into the playoffs, running wild like mid eighties

611
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: Hulkamanian What the ww was? That'd be great our WWF

612
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: still at that time. But all of that to say,

613
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: if suddenly Taylor falls off, does it tank everything? Right?

614
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: I mean, so we look at that. I mean, you

615
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: look at the quarterback position where we stand points to date,

616
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: Alan Drake may Patrick Mahomes is still third despite two

617
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: dog games in a row. That's how good he was early.

618
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert's fourth four point three points in Week eleven

619
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Speaker 4: against the Jaguars. Bo Nix is fifth, the guy everybody hates.

620
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and of your big five that we had at

621
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: the start, of the Year. Well, Jayden Daniels hurt, Joe

622
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: Burrow's obviously been hurt, Jalen Hurt's not there, and Lamar

623
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: has been hurt, and so it's just been Josh Allen.

624
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, still got himself back up to seven. But you've

625
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: got a couple of big games that prop the rest

626
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: of it up right. And that's the thing I think

627
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: a little bit with bow Knicks as well, is you've

628
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 4: got two or three starts that really helped to carry that.

629
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: But the point being, yeah, the the guys that we

630
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: expected to be bell cows for us and to help

631
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: lead the fantasy realm. And this goes back to, you know,

632
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: starting to look at draft twenty twenty six because we'd

633
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: had that trend where people were starting to reach out

634
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: for their quarterbacks a little bit earlier. Maybe maybe that

635
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: recedes a little bit.

636
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if hey, if Bryce Young is gonna throw for

637
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty yards for you, right.

638
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: Thirty one point eight points. He had two games over

639
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: ten and a half before, oh, No, three games over

640
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: ten and a half. One of them was a thirteen.

641
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: He had a twenty two point three and nineteen point

642
00:32:52,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: five and a thirteen before this thirty.

643
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: Did it last year though, right, The Panthers turned it

644
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: on at the end of the year, right, and now

645
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: they're they're a six win team, but they're ninth right

646
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: now in the NFC, I think when you're talking about

647
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: the playoffs standings and where they stand, so they're there. Yeah,

648
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Speaker 3: there's still some work to do, but division could be

649
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: could be in the grass ian. What stood out to

650
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: you in Week.

651
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 5: Eleven, guys, the Chiefs they lost to the Broncos that

652
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 5: division game. They're now four games back in the division,

653
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: so that was kind of the biggest thing that stood

654
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 5: out to me. Is they play the Colts this coming week,

655
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 5: so I think we can all agree that's a pretty

656
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 5: losable game for the Chiefs. Not like it's you know,

657
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 5: guaranteed they're going to but they're at a real risk

658
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 5: of dropping a five and six on the season, which

659
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 5: is actually just absurd considering that, what haven't they won

660
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: that division for the past nine years running. I think

661
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 5: it is something like that. So yeah, that was that

662
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 5: was the biggest thing that stood out to me. It's

663
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: just the Chiefs are like genuinely entering panic mode now.

664
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: Well and for fantasy purposes, right, you got the game

665
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: from Travis Kelcey. But and I know the Broncos are great,

666
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 4: but no, no or ten yet Rice is Well, it's

667
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: six sketches thirty eight yards.

668
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and like you said, Mahomes had another just disappointing game.

669
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 5: It's uh yeah, I'm just the concept of the Chiefs

670
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: missing the playoffs is pretty absurd to me.

671
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: And they've lost their tiebreaker to Jacksonville.

672
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 5: That too, that too, they have multiple time breakers Buffalo too.

673
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

674
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: So, and those teams are gonna be in the wild

675
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: card picture because Patriots right out top of the AFC

676
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: East and the Colts atop the the AFC South. The

677
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: funny thing was this actually felt like a Colts excuse me,

678
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: a Chiefs fantasy game because you mentioned the Travis Kelcey stuff.

679
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: But it's also the reason when you mentioned Rashid Rice. Yeah,

680
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: he's his favorite target or second favorite target, but you

681
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: don't have six for thirty eight.

682
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and they're gonna be plays for him, but.

683
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get You're never gonna get those ti

684
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: rekill numbers that you got. That's not who Rashi Rice is.

685
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's who the Chiefs want

686
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: to be. He also threw to like ten different receivers

687
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: in that game against Denver, so I had a bad interception.

688
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: By the ways, they were all former homes yeaheah.

689
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: Well, and they had one taken off the board too, right,

690
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: they had to pick six got off. So yeah, I

691
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: mean yeah, from a football and fantasy bridge right there,

692
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: I mean that's a good point. We're just in that

693
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: weird spot nine straight. Denver won five straight before the

694
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: Chiefs went on their run.

695
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 5: Denver's got it comfortable lead. Now they're two games ahead

696
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: of Chargers who were in second.

697
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I mean they and they lost to

698
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: the Chargers earlier this year, but they play them in

699
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: Denver on their return trip. So not only with that

700
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: that lean there's there's already a game and while they

701
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: have lost it, if you win this next one, you

702
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: kind of have it. I don't want to say it's

703
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: totally wrapped up because there is a return matchup for

704
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: the Broncos at Arrowhead, So if the Chiefs do go

705
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: on a streak, but yeah, if you're denveran to your

706
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: point about the comfort of it could be a lot

707
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: comfortable if you beat the Chargers at home, you're any different.

708
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 5: Chargers team your super Bowl tick Denver Broncos.

709
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that.

710
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: It's still a lot of football to be played. But

711
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: you know, the defense has been has been pretty good.

712
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to do offensively without JK. Dobbins.

713
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: And you know, I've been reported all week that it

714
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: was likely a long term injury, that he was not

715
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: going to be able to play for the Broncos definitely

716
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs and was headed to IR Now it sure,

717
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: it seems like it's a season ender, So step on

718
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: up our J Harvey right now.

719
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: Once again for JK. Dobbins.

720
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, and he goes.

721
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: On that list of guys that we've seen flashes. But

722
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: you know what could have.

723
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: Been, Yeah, absolutely, you almost wish for him they would

724
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: have just held him out of the first seven games

725
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: and then said play these rest instead of Yeah, you know,

726
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: it carried the workload for a lot of the season,

727
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: but it's just, yeah, another another injury for him. All right,

728
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: We're going to take a time out here on I

729
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: want your flax. Take a look at the report cards

730
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 3: from week eleven. Plus, Mike's got some waiver wire names

731
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: that you got to look at for week twelve, that's

732
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: all coming up next to here on I want your flas.

733
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: All right, we start with Mike Carmen. We're gonna end

734
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: with Mike Carmen as well with some waiver wire. But Mike,

735
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 3: what'd you get right in week eleven on the report card?

736
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna start. I mean really, I'm just gonna

737
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 4: say we had Sean Tucker as a ninja and I

738
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 4: just got to drop a microphone after that.

739
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: That's a big one.

740
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm going to take that victory lap top runner of

741
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: the week for us, so I appreciate the love there.

742
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: The running back position treated us pretty well. As for

743
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 4: the top five finished as RB Ones McCaffrey second, eight,

744
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: Chan was eleventh. Josh Jacobs unfortunately got hurt, so we've

745
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: got that one. As we look forward, Gibbs was in

746
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: the right spot at four, and I'm sorry Bijon was

747
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: at four. He finished in the right spot, and James

748
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: Cook finished eighth, So we take a victory lap at

749
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: the running back position. Quarterback Josh Allen was third. The

750
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 4: other guys, well, they all failed me. I already called

751
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: out Patrick Mahomes, so I don't need to pile on there.

752
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson was a bit of a counter and two

753
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: to play at the back end of the top five.

754
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: He did me nothing and all that expectation for Sunday

755
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: night football. I mean, come on, Jalen Hurts, come on Eagles, like,

756
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? I mean a fun game

757
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: if you like defense, but didn't didn't quite get it there,

758
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: but we survive. Nico Collins was a top five wide receiver,

759
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: so Davis Mills may not be good for your fantasy team,

760
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: but he will target his guy repeatedly. We had Dak

761
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: and Brock Purdy as hot plays. Maybe Dak was too

762
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 4: bit of a big of a chalk, but we're gonna

763
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: take it. George Pickens there as well, giving us some love.

764
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: Lad mcconkee top fifteen. Waddle finished as a top ten

765
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: in that Spain game that started the day. I'll take

766
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: an L on Derrick Henry taken l on Jordan Love.

767
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: They were in the cold sore list victory and Sam Darnold.

768
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: I didn't want it. I wanted them to win that

769
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: game because I want chaos. And for you, Dan, of course,

770
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: I mean, and you still almost pulled it off.

771
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: I know.

772
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, Well, but I'm going to

773
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: because nobody else said it. I've been calling it for weeks. Turnovers,

774
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: they're gonna show up.

775
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: You know.

776
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: How come I know that because they have been showing

777
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: up every single game. And it caught four interceptions. Four interceptions. Yeah,

778
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: and they needed a punt to go out at the

779
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: half millimeter line at the end of the game. If

780
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: it would have been maybe a yard closer, maybe a

781
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: couple of yards closer, it's a more makeable field goal

782
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: than the sixty one yarder.

783
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: But oh well, it's a very strange world.

784
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 6: But he goes, did you guys see that punt? Did

785
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 6: you see that punt of the rams Seahawks game? Yeah,

786
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 6: it's just I don't know how it happened with physics

787
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: and gravity and the whole shebang, but you could not

788
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 6: have a better coffin corner punt. And they still see

789
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: I still almost pulled it out with that and the

790
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 6: four turnovers.

791
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: But a loss is a loss, that's what it is.

792
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: But you know what, They're not all created the same.

793
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: And I love the fact that everybody picked up for him, right,

794
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: defender's cursing and.

795
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: The like, Yeah, Ernest Jones, But I mean just that

796
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: was talking to me.

797
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: He was talking to me.

798
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, a lot of folks still have

799
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 4: their uh they're are ready for the samny Ian knows

800
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 4: this going all the way back to the time in

801
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: New York, right whenever there's a game, because they did

802
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: that to Daniel Jones when he had that game against

803
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: the Steelers. You could be great for ten weeks, but

804
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: that one one one well, you know, but but there

805
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: have been balls left on the carpet, there's no question.

806
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem.

807
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: Is the narrative has been on how great Donald has been,

808
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: and he has been great at times. But what's going

809
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: to kill them is the turnovers which have been happening.

810
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: They now lead the NFL and giveaways with twenty and

811
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: they could be the best team in the NFL that

812
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: they just cut them in half. I think they would

813
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: be unquestionably the best team in the NFL if they

814
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: just had you know, ten turnovers, which isn't crazy to

815
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: say that would be won a game basically, you know,

816
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: through this point of the season.

817
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: But oh well, all right, moving on other w's.

818
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: I give you a big virtual hug, thank and some

819
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 4: cheese skirts l or other wins, I should say sakuon Barkley,

820
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: the aforementioned Jordanadison DK Metcalf goes well, it's DK Metcalf

821
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: at this point, and Courtland Sutton finished thirty second for

822
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: the week. Alas, we did not get the massive returns

823
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: from Jamis or JJ McCarthy in those respective fantasy realms,

824
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: not that I wanted JJ McCarthy selfishly to do so,

825
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: but I'm a realist again moving between the twenties and

826
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: making some plays. Some obvious throws didn't work. Rogers got hurt,

827
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 4: so an incomplete there, but all in solid week. We'll

828
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: take the w and certainly the Tucker one makes me

829
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: feel better about myself for finding the diamond in the

830
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: rough as it were. But I was just curious, you know,

831
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: coming out of Week eleven, just watching results and watching

832
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: play by play and just kind of scratching my head, going,

833
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: this is where we're at in the NFL. It's very

834
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 4: curious space right.

835
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: Now, and that absolutely is. But we're also hitting the

836
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: home stretch. We're almost at that two thirds spot in

837
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: the season, and now we're starting we're gonna have some

838
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: really good games. You know, the NFL does set it

839
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: up where like mid November, like after this Thanksgiving, like

840
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: through December.

841
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: We've got some really good.

842
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: Especially marquee games, so it should be should be a

843
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: fun stretch, maybe a little better than what we've had

844
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: with some of this malaise as of late streaming defenses.

845
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: For Ian Roddy, how did those turn out in Week eleven?

846
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, not bad.

847
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 4: It was a pretty good week.

848
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: Chicago Bears were the first one. They allowed seventeen points

849
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 5: to nine in the vikings, but JJ McCarthy, who is nine,

850
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: he threw two interceptions to them, so that helped. And

851
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 5: then the Dallas Cowboys were the other one on Monday

852
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: Night Football. They had a pretty nice defensive performance, had

853
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: sixteen points allowed, They had an interception for sacks and

854
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 5: got that safety as well. So pretty successful week for

855
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: streaming defenses. But we will look to carry it over

856
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 5: into next week.

857
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: Well, I took a giant fus with my points at

858
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Palooza of at being the Lions and Eagles, and you

859
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: couldn't get worse than that. It was not a good

860
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: decision by me. However, if you took my advice and

861
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: took the Steelers on your survivor pick, congratulations you are through.

862
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: If you really wanted to risk it and pick the dolls.

863
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: You probably had a heart attack watching that game in Madrid,

864
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: but they got through. The other fringe one was the Falcons.

865
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: That one fell apart. But the main pick of the

866
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: week was Steelers, and Pittsburgh was able to take care

867
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: of the Bengals, especially in that second half, even without

868
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey. True story, guys, I was at work watching

869
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: the games and I went out to get some lunch

870
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, let me just down the street

871
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: literally three blocks. I'm like, let me look at my

872
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: phone and see how the Steelers Bengals game. And I

873
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: look at my phone and the alert from Mike Adam

874
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: Schefter says Steelers dB Jalen Ramsey has been ejected for

875
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: throwing a punch. And I'm like, great, that's where we are.

876
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: That's where we are in this contest. But for the Steelers,

877
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: ultimately it worked out in the end, and maybe Jamar

878
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: Chase his absence in Week twelve, he is appealing that suspension.

879
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea on why that would why they

880
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: would overturn it, but very likely Cincinnati without Jamar Chase

881
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: against the Patriots in.

882
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: Week twelve unbelievable. That again, and it's been said a

883
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: billion times, the spitting thing. One, it's the worst, it's

884
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 4: it's worse than anything else you can do. But two,

885
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 4: thinking that in this day and age, in an NFL game,

886
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: even if it's someone in the three hundred level, someone's

887
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: getting a good shot of that.

888
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

889
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: Right, you're not going to get away with that.

890
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: They can find you throwing a beer on the field

891
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: from section one nineteen, roll forty two, seat eight. They're

892
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: going to see you spitting in someone's face. Yeah, yeah, Chase,

893
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: just better.

894
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna cost him at half a million dollars. Yes,

895
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 4: just gross too, No, but that's that's just gross.

896
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: That's respectful.

897
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just you know, tell him you'll meet him

898
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: in the parking.

899
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: Lot after the game and be done with something the

900
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 3: old fashioned from that. Yeah right, Well he'll be fresh

901
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 3: for their Thanksgiving Day game than in the Week thirteen

902
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: against the Ravens. Well we see Joe Burrow that game,

903
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: who knows, but I surezech no, we're not going to

904
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: see him in week twelve now without Jamar Chase. And

905
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: if you continue to lose like that, what's the point

906
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: of bringing Joe Burrow back. If you're three and eight,

907
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: that's going to be the question for Zach Taylor and

908
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: everyone in Cincinnati. But all right, Mike, let's get to

909
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: the waiver wire pickups. Four teams on by Broncos, Chargers,

910
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: Dolphins and Commanders not playing in Week twelve.

911
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: Who should we pick up?

912
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: Well, I mean with starting Cincinnati exit Jamar Chase enter

913
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 4: Yoshavash Yes, is there a great upside? No, But I

914
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: mean strange bedfellows opportunity knocks as a WR three desperation

915
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: flex play. Again, you're missing a bunch of wide receivers

916
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: coming out of these four teams that are there, I mean,

917
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: including a Deebo. Samuel Resurgence is not going to be

918
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: available for your fantasy squad this week, So you go

919
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: down that road. As we look at the quarterback position,

920
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 4: talk about Sam Darnold still available forty percent of leagues. Again,

921
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 4: we're just looking for guys that with an opportunity. Captain

922
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: Kirk against New Orleans decent spot. No Drake London so

923
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: a bit problematic there. Gain well because of his aptitude

924
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 4: as a runner and receiver. We saw that a little

925
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 4: bit on display here and I got to imagine if

926
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is unavailable, we see more reliance on the

927
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 4: runners as runners and receivers than we've certainly seen here

928
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 4: in the recent past. When we look at the we

929
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: go back to the fun and excitement that is the

930
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons for a second. When we go down that

931
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: depth chart with no Drake London to play, well, there's

932
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: Darnel Moody. And then maybe you wonder about working in

933
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: the second unit, whether a guy like Hodge suddenly gets

934
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: a little bit of run or something to that effect.

935
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: So maybe are sills that you know, again desperate desperation

936
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: in week two? Well, right where we're trying to find

937
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: the proverbial diamonds in the rough. Go back to the

938
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: quarterback position. Dude, we haven't had a Shador Sanders discussion yet.

939
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 4: We obliquely got to it a little bit earlier.

940
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: It is a fantasy podcast, and I didn't think it

941
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: was relevant.

942
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, Well, I mean I look at it

943
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: from a Jerry Judy thing where we've wished and hope that,

944
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: you know, going back to the Joe Flacco part of

945
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 4: the season, that he can get you there. But if

946
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: shadur hasked to play like we saw that he wasn't

947
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: shy about putting it up down field. Now, whether that

948
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 4: leads to anything good in constructive is a whole other question.

949
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: But all we can speak to is opportunity here and

950
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 4: perhaps perhaps more than a side than anything.

951
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: I think that you need to put him in your

952
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: ninjas no matter what, and if it hits, it hits.

953
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: And then we just started screaming like wild men.

954
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you called it absolutely no, It's it's

955
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: one of those discussion like I just wrote him down

956
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 3: with a question mark.

957
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, of just because because we saw it right it was.

958
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: It was erratic, and it was scattershot and most often terrible.

959
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: But he was willing to put the ball downfield, something

960
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel was never going to do.

961
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: And there is this scenario where he will now get

962
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 3: reps in practice, which I know has been a hot

963
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: button topic. By the way, I understand Dylan Gabriel getting

964
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: most of the reps in a practice, especially for a

965
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: guy who's a rookie, but to not just get two

966
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps or something. I think it was

967
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: was it Wyatt Teller who said we didn't even know

968
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: his cadence right, Like we couldn't tell like that's that's

969
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: that is on the Browns in that situation. So I

970
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: don't blame him. And I know the numbers say four

971
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: and sixteen, and honestly, guys, most of the country got

972
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: Kansas City and Denver and not everybody has the Sunday ticket.

973
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: And on the West Coast it was the Seahawks and

974
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: Rams and the Cardinals and the forty nine ers, so

975
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: those TVs were on those games. Not a lot of

976
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: the country saw shad or so they'll just go look

977
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: at the numbers and be like, well, whatever, Mike you

978
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: said it. I saw him as they were happening. The

979
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: couple of throws that he made and even went into

980
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: the end zone that could have been a Touchdow. It

981
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: was off the mark. It was a pretty good throw,

982
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 3: just didn't It wasn't in the spot it needed to be. Yeah,

983
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: did show something. So there's always going to be a

984
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: conversation about it. One side's going to go too far

985
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: with their thoughts, the other side is going to go

986
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: too far with their thoughts. And it's usually somewhere in

987
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: the middle. But yeah, give them a week of practice.

988
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: Play a crappy Raiders team who knows what could happen.

989
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at it also just the fun and

990
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 4: the general life philosophy of find yourself. Someone is someone

991
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: in your life that will love you like some people

992
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: really stand for Shador Sanders. Sure, my goodness, but as

993
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: you say, the extremes on both ends. Michael Wilson, Even

994
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: before Marvin Harrison Junior was out, we talked about Jacoby

995
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 4: Brissett and what he's done. Twenty nine targets the last

996
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: three weeks. So opportunities I mean eighteen this week, but

997
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 4: that's still eleven if my math is correct, So opportunity there.

998
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 4: We go down the roster a little bit more because

999
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 4: the wide receivers where we're trying to find some love

1000
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: long term play. Keep an eye on Brandon Ayuk, still

1001
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: available in about seventy five percent of leagues. If you've

1002
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: got a bench spot for the stretch run for the playoffs,

1003
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: if he comes back, maybe maybe you got yourself a

1004
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: little bit of a Hollywood ending there. But you know,

1005
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: when we look at percentages the amount of stashes for

1006
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: running backs, there is not a whole lot of touches

1007
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: out there on the average waiver wire. You know you're

1008
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: wishing and hoping for a Brian Robinson junior, maybe a

1009
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: little bit of touton, but again his workload relative to

1010
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: ETNS not terribly strong. And then we look at Spears.

1011
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: He goes up against Seattle, so for a one week play,

1012
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 4: that is not a winning combination, even if he does

1013
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: get a little more of the workload.

1014
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: And hopefully it ticked off Seahawks team and that game

1015
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: I for my purposes, all right, that's going to do

1016
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: it here for I want your flex, We'll have a

1017
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: midweek episode. We'll do it a little different this time,

1018
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: talk about just the evolution of fantasy.

1019
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: Also dive into Survivor pools.

1020
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: I give you the Survivor pick every week, so we

1021
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: dive a little bit more into that.

1022
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: And then at the end of.

1023
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: The week, we'll have your week twelve rankings. Hopefully our

1024
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: glitches are all taken care of and everything is good

1025
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 3: from that end. And then again a reminder, just two

1026
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: episodes next week, but we'll have a rankings episode for

1027
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: you that will encompass the entire week, as all thirty

1028
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: two teams are in action in week thirteen. So for

1029
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: Ian Roddy and Mike Carmen, I'm Dan byer. We'll talk

1030
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: to you next time time right here, and I want

1031
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 3: your flights.

1032
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: Mmmmmmmmmm mm hmm