WEBVTT - The DSA Red Scare 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.000 A zone media. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.160 This is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis. A 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:16.280 specter is haunting the United States. Last year, Democratic socialist 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.960 Zoron Momdani beat establishment politician Andrew Cuomo in the New 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.960 York mayoral election two times, both in the Democratic primary 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.280 and the November general. Since then, the Democratic Socialists of 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.440 America have only grown their power in New York City, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.800 State and the Halls of Congress. Claire Valdez brad Lander 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.000 and Dara Lisa of vi La Chevalier won their congressional primary, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.240 unseating two Democrat incumbents and beating one incumbent backed progressive. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.559 That same night, seven New York City DSA candidates won 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.280 their Democratic primaries for the State Assembly and State Senate, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.760 paving the way to send seven new Democratic Socialists to 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.920 the New York State Legislature, joining the eight lists already 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.560 in office. In total, nine out of the ten insurgent 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.920 candidates on the NYC DSA slate won their races last month, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:14.640 beating sitting incumbents and establishment backed candidates. When Hakim Jeffries 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.800 appeared on TV at a DSA election night party, the 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:27.600 crowd chanted your next The next morning in the Oval office. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:32.039 President Trump commented on the DSA sweep President. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:36.200 Trump, great knight for Democratic Socialist candidates last night and 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.120 the New York primaries. They swept and knocked out two incumbents. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:41.440 You're from New York. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.440 Why do you think it is that now the endorsement 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:49.120 of Zorn Mamdani means more than the endorsement of Hakim Jeffries. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.400 Well, they're going radical left and going really. You know, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.320 you talk about the Democrats socialists you took. Really it's 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.200 really a communist that's these people. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.760 I watched that one last night. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.560 That's not a socialist, I know, socialist. That's like that 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.480 woman is a communist. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.920 Just a week prior, a DSA endorsed candidate won the 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.760 Democratic primary in the Washington, d C. Mayoral election, and 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.120 a DSA member won the primary for the Ward one 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.639 City Council seat. Then, a week after the New York 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:25.480 City sweep, another Democratic Socialist, melot Kiros, won the Democratic 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.720 primary in Colorado's first congressional House district, unseating a thirty 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.800 year incumbent. This sequence of wins rattled both the Democratic 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.400 establishment as well as Trump and the GOP. Here's Trump 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.960 again in the Oval office on June twenty ninth. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.560 Zara Bumdani said in an interview this week that he 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.120 was open to being the poster child for socialist candidates. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.720 Are you worried about more socialist candidates across the unit? 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.000 I think to speak threat to a nation actually because 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.400 it's not socialism, it's way communism. They use it a 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.160 social democrat because it sounds so nice, but it's really 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.840 communism you're talking about. I think it's the biggest threat 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.880 to our nation there is, maybe since our founding. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.640 President Trump spent much of the July fourth weekend commemorating 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.120 the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the country attacking communism. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.040 These are clips from Trump's America to fifty address on 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.480 July fourth, and other speeches in press conferences from that 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.240 same week. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:31.040 Communism is a loser and it always will be. The 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.840 communist system is the opposite of the American system, and 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.960 the communist system has never worked. Our warriors did not 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.000 fight communism on battlefields across the world only to have 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.280 that menace rear its ugly head right back here in America. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.800 We're not gonna let it happen because it's. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.640 Like a cancer that spreads, and you better stop it fast. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.280 We will never let the United States become a communist country. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.320 You can be loyal to Carl, or you can be 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.080 loyal to America. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.000 Communism's a disaster. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.960 It's been proven to be for thousands of years, under 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.480 different names, but the same thing. 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.880 There is now a resurgence of the communist menace in 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.799 our land, including from newcomers to our country who embrace 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.599 ideas totally opposed to our way of life and our 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:26.600 great success. Communism is a mortal threat to American liberty. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.480 It is the greatest threat to our country including World 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.160 War One, World War two, Pearl Harbor, or even nine 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:35.679 to eleven. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.080 As the DSA has won seats across the country, the 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.279 organization has attracted new members. After the twenty twenty four 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:49.679 presidential election, DSA had about fifty thousand members nationally. This month, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.320 DSA reached over one hundred and twenty thousand members, a 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.120 record high. Just the New York City chapter alone has 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:02.719 over fifteen thousand members. Late last year, DSA allocated funding 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.720 to open twenty new offices across the country. Around the 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:12.360 June primary, the Zionist extremist group Canary Mission started specifically 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:16.719 targeting NYCDSA with write ups on all ten of the 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:21.840 insurgent candidates. Canary Mission's anti nyc DSA article from before 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.560 the election was titled a thousand Zorans Don't threaten me 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.039 with a good time. The article not only attacked the 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:33.599 nyc DSA candidates, but also highlighted how the organizational structure 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.719 of NYCDSA has established a template for success by running 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.880 candidates as a whole block who can campaign together and 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:47.600 then support each other once in office. Quote NYCDSA elected 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:52.000 officials meet weekly to align votes and coordinate strategy. The 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.400 machine doesn't stop. In all caps. In a post on 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:01.000 x The Everything app after the June primary, Canary Mission wrote, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.400 quote New York City DSA is not just growing, it 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:10.000 is building the machinery to turn radical ideology into political power. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.599 The numbers show the scale the largest DSA chapter in 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:18.479 America roughly ninety thousand volunteers, hundreds of field leads, a 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:23.440 candidate pipeline, and coordination that continues after election day. This 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.880 is how a movement stops looking like protest and starts 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.440 looking like infrastructure. New York is the testing ground. The 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:37.719 machine is already being built unquote and yeah, they're right. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.679 Basically everything in that little quote is one hundred percent true, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.400 and that is what's making both the liberal and conservative 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.240 establishment nervous. On the eve of July fourth, Fox News 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.760 ran a segment on the Kami Revolution. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.680 White House Press Secretary of Caroline love It joins us, Now, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.520 the Kami Revolution, Caroline, did you ever see this coming? 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.520 This is It's not your granddaddy's Democrat Party. This is 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.160 not the Grand Democrat Party of JFK. This is a 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:10.520 full blown communist revolution that is taking over Capitol Hill. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.920 If these communies get in, they're going to be a 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:17.000 powerful little caucus. They're gonna here to blow things up. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.240 They're not here to negotiate Pentagon funding. They want zero 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.080 Pentagon funding. They're in here to destroy the country. How 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.800 would the president negotiate with people like that? 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.720 I'm not sure you can. And I think that's why 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.720 the President is being so bold and warning the American 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.200 public against this communist takeover of the Democrats. And as 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.480 Ronald Reagan perfectly stated, freedom is never more than one 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.680 generation away from extinction. If these communists are given a 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.640 chance at power here in Washington, DC, if they retake 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.360 the majority in Washington away from the Republicans, we will 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.200 be heading down a communist takeover. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.400 This concerned by Jesse Waters of Fox News, was also 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.880 the topic of an Axios story from a few days 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.680 after the New York primary, with quotes from quote unquote 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.880 centrist Democrat lawmakers threatening that there's quote unquote going to 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.160 be a war if the new members of Congress try 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.240 to utilize their block to win policy concessions, with one 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:21.360 lawmaker calling the incoming members quote bomb throwers, not problem solvers. 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.440 The idea is that if the Democrats win a small 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:30.400 House majority in the next election, the growing coalition of democratic, 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.120 socialist and left wing populist lawmakers could leverage their needed 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.079 votes to get concessions from party leadership and wield an 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:42.160 outsized influence on the party. In this story, Axios wrote 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.600 that left wing House reps quote moving on block would 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.440 be able to kill party line votes to get their 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.840 demands met, much like the far right House Freedom Caucus 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:57.079 has done the past few years. Progressive Rep. Dela Ramirez 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.240 of Illinois is quoted in the piece saying that the 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.360 Congressional Progressive Caucus has a quote responsibility to be the 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.400 strongest voter block to take a stand not for the 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.040 establishment but for working people who send us to fight 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:16.280 like hell for them. Threats of war from centrist Democrats 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.240 and cries of communism from Fox News and President Trump 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.520 show a real fear of the growing momentum DSAY is having, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:29.200 both as an organization and in the ballot box, and 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.720 the fear that this kind of politics won't be contained 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.360 to big cities in blue states. Here is Mom Donnie 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.680 being interviewed on ABC shortly after the June primary. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:45.079 And you knocked off two Democratic incumbent members of Congress. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.160 Is this like a unique moment in New York or 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:49.880 is this the beginning of a national movement. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.679 I think we are seeing a hunger that is not 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.959 just felt by New Yorkers, but frankly by Americans from 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.079 coast to coast for a new kind of politics, one 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.120 that puts working people at the heart of it. And 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.600 I think for far too long, what we as a 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.800 party have been able to say to New Yorkers who 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.520 are struggling is simply to explain why they're struggling, not 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.400 actually offer them a vision for how to make life better. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.599 And these candidates Brad Daria, Liza Claire. They ran campaigns 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.800 that spoke to working people and that said life in 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.079 the nation's most expensive city need not be this way 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.840 any longer. And I can't wait to have them as 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.120 partners in DC and Network. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.880 We'll be right back with Mike Johnson after this at break. 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.400 Three days after the DSA sweep in New York, Republican 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.880 House Speaker Mike Johnson gave the keynote address at the 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:51.200 Faith and Freedom Conference, where he essentially did free propaganda 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.280 for the DSA. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:57.080 The DSA, the Democrats Socialists of America sounds so innocuous, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.480 doesn't it. No, it doesn't. I will say that this 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.200 is their platform. Listen, this is actually quotes from their 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.199 platform that they published I think about a day or 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.040 two ago. You can find this on the internet. Okay, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.360 here's just a sample of what they're about. They put 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.440 this on paper. They're saying the quiet things out loud. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.680 Abolish the Electoral College or replace the two party system 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.679 with a multi party democracy. Expand the House of Representatives. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:26.120 Implement proportional representation and rank choice voting in all elections. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:31.760 Abolish well establish public ownership of the largest corporations and 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.520 essential industries to ensure democratic control and accountability to the people. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.240 Abolish ice and grant amnesty for all. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.079 This isn't the quiet part out loud. This is democratic 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:49.480 socialism one oh one, empowering workers by increasing democratic control 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.920 of our own government and the unaccountable corporations that rule 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.600 over our lives. But here's more from Mike Johnson. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:02.360 In sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran Palestine. Quote for 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.400 a free Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital. End all 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.040 military and economic aid to Israel. Prosecute US and Israeli 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:15.719 leaders responsible for the genocide in Gaza. Abolish the carceral state. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:17.680 Quote. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.880 Redirect police and prison funding to public services as steps 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.800 towards abolishing the carceral forces of the capitalist state. Y'all. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.640 It goes on and on on. Defund the Department of War, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.560 replace the President and the Supreme Court with an executive 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:38.640 and judiciary chosen and subordinate to Congress, which they're hoping 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.720 to take over. And the last one is abolished the Senate. Now, 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:42.920 some of you may agree with that, but don't just 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.800 leave that one there. Okay, it's fine, I'm kidding. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.880 The fact that the sitting House speaker felt the need 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.920 to address these proposals signifies a serious Overton windows shift, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.400 an opening up of the conversation on ending in humans sections, 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:05.960 reforming the Supreme Court, defunding the Pentagon, and abolishing the 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:10.920 uniquely undemocratic institution of the Senate. Will that last one 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:16.800 happen anytime soon? Probably not, but Mike Johnson apparently believes 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:21.200 this is a topic worthy of public debate. This past Tuesday, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.599 Mike Johnson announced that the Pentagon is requesting an additional 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.679 three hundred and fifty billion dollars. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.040 You've heard the President talk about how he wants to 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.760 effectively double the funding for national defense. Look, we live 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.160 in dangerous time for fighting communism on our own shores, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.360 and we're fighting evil terrorists and and tyrants around the world. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:44.040 Meanwhile, also this past Tuesday, DSA released the full version 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.520 of their new national platform, which is what Mike Johnson 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.640 was quoting from. This platform is titled Workers Deserve More 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.960 and Beyond what Mike Johnson has already helpfully outlined. It 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.720 also contains paid family leaf for all workers, a thirty 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.640 two hour workweek, a living minimum wage, canceling student debt, 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:08.720 universal healthcare, building publicly owned social housing, honoring all treaties 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:13.920 and tribal sovereignty, finishing reconstruction, ending mass incarceration and police immunity, 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.080 a federal jobs guarantee, publicly owned energy and transit infrastructure, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.880 ending the US four machine, a free Palestine, ending all 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:26.760 aid to Israel, prosecuting those responsible for the gazogenocide, DC statehood, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.840 getting rid of lobbyists, dark money, and citizens united and 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:34.440 publicly financing all elections, while expanding and protecting voter rights 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:39.040 and ending voter suppression, and of course, abolishing ice. You 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.200 can read the full platform in more detail at program 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:47.120 dot DSAUSA dot org. I'll link it below. It's not 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.120 very long and quite easy to read. It starts with 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.400 a preamble to contextualize the goals of the organization and 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.920 the purpose of an ambitious platform in our current moment. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.920 I'll quote from a section of that preamble. Now quote, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.440 If we lived in a classless society and governed ourselves, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.600 we could freely build a world without war or poverty. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.080 We could build a world where no one suffers for 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.640 their race, gender, or religion, and everyone is free, equal, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.840 and cared for. Building this world is the guiding star 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.800 of our movement. When we labor for our common good 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.720 instead of private profit. We can all have a secure 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.840 and dignified life and use our time and talents how 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:31.400 we wish. To achieve this future, our class must organize. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.760 The Democratic Socialists of America is building a party whose 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.920 goal is a democratic society of the working class. Our 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.680 enemies are not just individual bosses, but the entire global 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.600 system of capital. Not just this or that cop, judge, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:51.640 or president, but the entire anti democratic structure of our society. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.120 We are workers fighting to transform society, to win the 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.840 battle for democracy, draft a new constitution, and create a 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:04.960 democratic socialist republic. DSA has written this program for ending 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.400 capitalist oligarchy and creating a real democracy. Some of these 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.880 demands maybe one under our current system, but we know 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.560 complete victory will require building a new society from the 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.800 ground up. We push these demands to their furthest extent 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.160 today so that we can fight for their fullest realization 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:29.080 in a socialist future. Meanwhile, let's check in on the liberals. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.520 On CNN's State of the Union, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.520 was asked about the recent DSA electoral wins. Democratic voters 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:44.200 in New York chose three candidates back by Zorammdani, far 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.840 left and Democratic Socialist candidates. What message do you take 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:49.880 from that about where your party is. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.560 You know, those were races in individual districts in a 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.080 whole other state. I think you're seeing very different looking 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:03.040 congressional races and certainly different Democratic canidates here in Pennsylvania. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.440 That's an interesting point being made by Governor Shapiro, who 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.840 seems to be ignoring the fact that the first congressional 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.720 primary win for a Democratic Socialist this year was in 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.640 Pennsylvania's third district this past May, Democratic Socialist Chris Robb 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.600 beat a candidate backed by the retiring incumbent, a candidate 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.480 who compared calling the genocide and Gaza a genocide to 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.320 saying the N word. But Jos Shapiro is not the 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:34.040 only one trying to argue that DSA's success is limited 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.720 to places like New York. Londons have been saying the 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.720 same thing ever since Mamdani won the primary over a 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:44.159 year ago, but following the slate sweep last month, some 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.280 Democratic lawmakers have tried to minimize the increasing trend of 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:53.600 socialist candidates beating both moderate and sometimes even progressive politicians. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.719 The reaction from Democrats has been something. You've had some 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.720 prominent Democrats missive of what happened here. I mean, you 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.880 had Senator Blumenthal say the effort to nationalize New York 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.880 is going to fail. What happened in New York will 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:12.120 be really irrelevant by the time of the elections in November. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.600 Jakeem Jeffreys basically said the same thing, saying that this 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.120 is not indicative of what needs to happen in November. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.120 What do you make of that? 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.639 You know, I think that when you ask Americans what 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:27.040 they're feeling in this moment, amidst reports of an economated 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.199 strengthening of stock market that's booming, you will hear an 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.639 exhaustion at having to try and make ends meet every 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.359 single day, every single week, every single month, and that 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.960 it's getting harder and harder. And so a message of 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.320 fighting for working people. We don't have to nationalize that message. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.320 That is a national message's a national crisis. And for 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.720 far too long, all we've had to say as a 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.520 party is opposition to the current administration. What do we 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.920 have to say beyond that? And what these candidates offer 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.760 is a vision that extends beyond the midterms. It extends 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.159 beyond twenty twenty eight. It speaks to what makes so 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.240 many of us proud to be Democrats. It speaks to 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.600 a vision that goes back to a new deal understanding 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.040 of what working people deserve. And I'll tell you that 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.240 for too long, that kind of politics you can only 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:12.960 find it in history books, and we need to bring 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:13.880 it back to the present day. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:19.920 On CNN, Joshapiro addressed his disagreements with one particular candidate 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.440 in New York, Chevalier, saying, quote, her district voted for her, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.520 but I have profound differences from that particular candidate, and 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.320 she's not someone who seemingly I would agree with on 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.960 many things, or that we share similar values. She ran 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.040 on the Democratic ticket. I guess she is a socialist. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.320 Her voters in that district determined that she was the 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.200 one they wanted representing her. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.000 I think what is important are the people who are 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.520 making a lot of noise, who are engaging in these 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.720 performative politics, have to now figure out how to deliver results. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.480 It's one thing to speak in platitudes during a campaign. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.560 It's a whole other thing to actually deliver for people 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:04.359 who are genuinely hurting, who genuinely need to see cost 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.200 of living go down, meaning their ability to make ends meet, 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.120 you know, go off, fixing a broken healthcare system, reining 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.760 in excesses, being able to give people the promise of 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.520 liberty that we've talked about. I think we as a 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.600 party need to find our way toward candidates who actually 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.359 can deliver for people and make their lives better. 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.960 I'm curious who Shapiro thinks such candidates may be, because 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.160 the twenty twenty four election showed that voters lost faith 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.640 that National Dems could deliver any of those things. Whereas 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:43.960 in just six months, Democratic Socialist Zora Mamdani delivered free childcare, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.520 a two year rent freeze, a new plan to make 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.119 bus as faster, all well balancing the budget and overcoming 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.720 a twelve billion dollar deficit left by Eric Adams. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.840 We don't have to ask ourselves what life looks like 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.120 if a socialist wins. I won last November and over 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.640 the course of these last six months, what we've delivered 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:03.720 for working people are the very things we were told 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.320 were impossible. We've delivered free childcare for two year olds 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.320 for the first time in New York City history. We've 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.720 delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants who 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.000 were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered one 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.200 hundred and sixty five thousand potholes being paved, and we've 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.320 done all of these things while also delivering the lowest 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.840 recorded crime in our city's history. That's what it looks 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.439 like to have democratic socialism. And what you're seeing is 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.040 that New Yorkers experienced this for six months and made 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:31.719 the decision that they wanted to see more of it 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:33.120 on the national stage as well. 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.120 Governor Shapiro has said the Democratic Party is going through 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:41.880 quote a battle over what we believe in unquote, and 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.840 I think that's true, but moderates can never seem to 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:50.120 really express what they believe in beyond opposition to both 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.240 Trump and the Democratic Socialists. Meanwhile, Momdani is on the 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.719 news clearly articulating what he believes in and why the 0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.840 party should believe in it too. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.040 I think it has to stand for working people, and 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:03.720 I think it has to be willing to fight for 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.680 working people. And I think that there are some who 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.800 are offended by the prospect of a party that knows 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.040 who it fights for and goes every day to work 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.159 for that, because what we've seen over many years is 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.400 a willingness to not only explain away the status quo, 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.200 but frankly even to look to benefit from the status quo. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.840 And that's not what working people are looking for from 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:25.320 our party. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.600 Can a Democratic Socialists get elected president? 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:31.119 I think a Democratic Socialist can get elected anywhere across 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:32.960 this country for any position. What I think we need 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.840 to bring is a focus on working. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.479 People, and that's the direction that the party should go in. 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.359 And in terms of a selecting a candidate for twenty 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:40.040 twenty eight. 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:41.880 I think the direction that the party should go in 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.520 is how best to fight for working people. I think 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.119 we need to have a platform and a vision that 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.240 doesn't sound as if it was cooked up by consultants, 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.840 but instead one that you would say in response to 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.080 someone who's asking, why can't I afford my rent, Why 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.560 can't I afford my groceries, Why can't I afford my childcare? 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.760 We need to make clear who we stand for, how 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.440 we're going to stand for them, and that we're actually 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.240 willing to fight for them when the going gets tough. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.000 As red Scare style rhetoric has surged on the right, 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.600 we've begun to see more establishment Dems team up with 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:15.880 conservative media and Republican politicians in trying to take down 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:20.359 the DSA to protect their shared class interests. This was 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.280 already happening throughout the New York mayoral race last year, 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.480 eventually leading to Trump endorsing Andrew Cuomo on the eve 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.119 of the election. But as the DSA keeps building power 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:33.280 and winning races across the country, so too will this 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:38.720 bipartisan ruling class alliance continue to spread. Late last month, 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:43.160 Democratic advisor James Carville went on Fox News to discuss 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:47.040 the danger of democratic socialism and the possibility of a 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:51.280 party schism. Since then, Fox has been airing clips of 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.639 Carville's own podcast where he attacks the DSA. 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.480 Socialism surge is triting to shake up the Democratic Party. 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.400 Big wins from Mondani backed candidates in New York this 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.399 week just the latest the Democratic Socialists of America. Veteran 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.679 Democratic strategist James Carville says it could be time to split. 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:14.640 I actually do think it's time for Democrats to talk 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.200 the S word, excise them. 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:17.359 I really do. 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:22.440