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Speaker 1: Well, good morning, and welcome to a special Wednesday edition

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Speaker 1: between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Tota Dealer,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the La Rams. I'm JD. Long and

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Speaker 1: the Rams are set for week five, Thursday Night football

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Speaker 1: in Seattle against the Seahawks. No Maurice Jones drew this week.

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Speaker 1: He is in London with NFL Network preparing for a

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Speaker 1: game this weekend. So we say good morning to DeMarco

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Speaker 1: far first and always a bit of a homecoming when

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Speaker 1: defar gets to go back to relive his glory days

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Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest. Where you want of a championship

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Speaker 1: with a little bit older, a little more money, but

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Speaker 1: clam chowder and coffee, can't wait. I love the weather.

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Speaker 1: Am I crazy for loving the weather in Seattle? I

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Speaker 1: love it overcast, drury, that's that's that's me. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can never predict it even twenty four hours out, but

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Speaker 1: it looks like we'll be dry for game time with

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Speaker 1: temperatures right around fifty So that works for early October.

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Speaker 1: And let's bring in the third member of our panel today.

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Speaker 1: One of the great things about covering Rams here in

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Speaker 1: Ohmaruise a bit, Omar, it looks like you're ahead of us.

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Speaker 1: You're already there for Thursday night football. Yeah. Here in

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Speaker 1: the press box looming Field. Can't wait to see this

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Speaker 1: setting tomorrow. You guys know you've been here for Thursday

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Speaker 1: night games, primetime games in the past. It'll be the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks fans first time to see their team in primetime

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Speaker 1: at home since the end of the twenty nineteen season,

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Speaker 1: so I know they're fired up here. And DeMarco, you

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Speaker 1: it was raining, it was cloudy, it was cold. I

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Speaker 1: It was almost a hundred there. So to have the

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Speaker 1: temperatures reduced by almost half here in October, perfect football weather.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great setting tomorrow. That's funny. I

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Speaker 1: always wondered, how do you guys pack? Just pack everything

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Speaker 1: and just use what you need. Hey, I'm a real

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Speaker 1: quick before we dig it today, it's one of those

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Speaker 1: Whenever we make that first cold weather environment trip of

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Speaker 1: the year, inevitably we forget something. So I brought my overcoat.

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Speaker 1: weather game of the year. All right, real quick. We've

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Speaker 1: How about across the walkway there, how you enjoying the

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Speaker 1: new NFL Network jigs. It's awesome, It's uh. You know

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Speaker 1: what I tell people is I can't wait to show

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Speaker 1: our new NFL Network studios, you know, to you guys

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Speaker 1: are our friends family, you know. Because of COVID we

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Speaker 1: is full of life. If you if you, you know,

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Speaker 1: imagine the last year and a half in Culver City

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Speaker 1: all right, So demark right here we go with Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night football and Week five, and it's a couple of

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Speaker 1: It is funny what a difference a week can make, right,

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Speaker 1: That everyone on his injury report and it is a

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Speaker 1: for Week five against the Seahawks. Thanks for tuning in

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Speaker 1: this Week two between the Horns, presented by your Southern

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Speaker 1: California Tota Dealers, proud partner of the La Rams. A

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Speaker 1: big thank you to Omar Ruiz from the NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday from Seattle. As always, if you like

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Speaker 1: Fire for Omar I'MJB. Have a great rest of your week.

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