1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to securing America with me, Frank Afney, with a 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: program that's the kind of owner's manual for protecting the 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: country we love against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: the glory of God and his kingdom. This is a 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: moment when we are confronting a number of challenges, foreign 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: and domestic, and we're going to be talking about one 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: that has just been agreed with one of our dear friends, 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Reggie Littlejohn in just a moment. But let me set 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: the predicate for it here. In less than a month, 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: world government will be imposed on us indirectly, if not directly, 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: thanks to a new pandemic treaty the World Health Organization 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: finalized yesterday and plans to adopt and make legally binding 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: in med May, with profound implications for public health, personal freedoms, 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: and national sovereignty. If you liked how the COVID nineteen 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: crisis was handled, in large measure thanks to the incompetence 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and malfeasance of the WHO and the insidious influence of 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the perpetrator, the Chinese Communist Party, and the principal beneficiary, 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Big Pharma, You're gonna love this new world order, among 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: its consequences will be universal health ideas, vaccine mandates, obligatory censorship, 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: technology transfers, open ended financial costs, and the proliferation of 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: viruses with the potential to cause pandemics, all managed by 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: greatly empowered and unaccountable international bureaucrats. Sound terrifying. Learn more 23 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: and take action at Sovereignty Coalition dot org. Let me 24 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: turn to Reggie little John, one of our leaders on 25 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: matters of sovereignty. In fact, she co founded with me 26 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: the Sovereignty Coalition for the purposes of advocating on this score. 27 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Among other things, she is the founder president of a 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: new anti globalist international, as well as Women's Rights Without Frontiers, 29 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: two very important organizations. She's a ill trained litigator by 30 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: background and has brought considerable expertise and skill to bear 31 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: on championing freedom as well as national sovereignty. We're proud 32 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: to have her with us always. Welcome back, Reggie, it's 33 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: good to talk with you. 34 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so very much. Frank. 35 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: So, we have a new pandemic treaty. I think they 36 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: persist in calling it an agreement, but even they slip 37 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: up every once in a while at the WHO and 38 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: describe it as what it is a treaty. Tell us 39 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: a little bit about how we got to this point, Reggie, 40 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: some of the background with this international organization known as 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: the WHO, and the various cords that it has been 42 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: trying to promulgate, including this one. 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: Well to begin with, in terms of the latest step 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: with a pandemic treaty, which they are calling an agreement 45 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: and accord, an instrument and anything but a treaty. Okay, 46 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: it hasn't passed the World Health Assembly yet. Okay, what 47 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: we have is that on I think it was April sixteenth, 48 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: the international negotiating body finally came to an agreement about 49 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: what they were going to propose at the World Health Assembly. 50 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: So we do not yet have a treaty. I mean, 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: there is time to stop it. So where are we? 52 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: The World Health Organization, during COVID, actually led by the 53 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: United States, proposed a bunch of international health regulation amendments 54 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: and also a new pandemic treaty. The original language of 55 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: it was absolutely horrific, and it included things like the 56 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: ability to mandate vaccines and and lock people down, et cetera. 57 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: Those have been either deleted or muted in subsequent drafts, 58 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: but I think that what we can look at is 59 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: the early drafts as in terms of what the intent 60 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: is behind this. They couldn't get everybody to agree to it, 61 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: so they had to mute it down. But that's that's 62 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: the intent. So the International Health Regulations passed. They have 63 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: a requirement of surveillance of the country's surveil their citizens, 64 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: that they that they censor. They call it address misinformation 65 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: and disinformation, and that everybody in the world needs to 66 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: have a health ID and it's either digital or paper. 67 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: For countries that are able to have digital, they are 68 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: having digital, and the World Health Organization and the EU, 69 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: since I think mid twenty twenty three, I have been 70 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: rolling out interoperable international Digital IDs, which if you look 71 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: at the World Economic Forum website and find the digital 72 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: ID chart, it's going to and I can go into 73 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: more details. It is going it's going to to touch 74 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: every aspect of our lives that passed the pandemic. The 75 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: amendments to the International Health Regulations passed last World Health 76 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: Assembly on June first. The next World Health Assembly is 77 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: mid May, and they are going to try to pass 78 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: and unless something, you know, unless there's major resistance, they 79 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: will pass this new Pandemic Treaty, which contains a whole 80 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: another host of horribles in it. 81 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: And the effort to get that treaty, horrible as it 82 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: was at the time through last year failed in part, 83 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: I think because of the kind of opposition our Sovereignty 84 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: Coalition and lots of others around the world mounted and 85 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: your leadership, and that was tremendously important, Reggie. But they 86 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: did kind of a bait and switch, and they got 87 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that they wanted in the 88 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Pandemic Treaty and this set of amendments and so on. 89 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: So we're looking at that in part as a template 90 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: for the way these guys operate. That they are bent. 91 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say on engineering world government 92 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: using health as the pretext, and whatever the tactical shifts 93 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: or the baits and switches, whatever you want to call it, 94 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: that they're going to need to do to keep moving forward, 95 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: they are going to do. And that seems to be 96 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: where we are now with this new agreement. Maybe not 97 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: as bad as the original drafts, but I completely agree 98 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: with you that they've showed their hand. They've made no 99 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: secret of what their actual ulterior agenda is. 100 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Well Okay, so number one, even under the International Health 101 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Regulation Amendments, they have everything. Even if this Pandemic Treaty 102 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: does not pass, which I think is unlikely. Even if 103 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: it didn't pass, the International Health Regulation Amendments themselves are 104 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: enough to set up a digital gulog between the censorship, 105 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: the surveillance, and the use of mandatory digital IDs which 106 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: are now being rolled out across the world by the 107 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: World Health Organization. But what the Pandemic Treaty does in 108 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: addition to that, to me, the main thing that it 109 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: does that is extremely concerning is established a something called 110 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: the Pathogen Access and Benefit Sharing System PAVES system. And 111 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: so what this system does is pathogens. Different countries will 112 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: identify pathogens on pandemic potential, in other words, pathogens that 113 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: could cause a pandemic, like coronavirus, and then they will 114 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: send them to the World Health Organization, and then the 115 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: World Health Organization, in its wisdom, will farm it out 116 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: to labs all over the world so that they can 117 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: make vaccines. 118 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: You know. 119 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: That's that's the stated reason. So what could possibly go 120 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: wrong to the extent that the coronavirus was a lab 121 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: leak from the Wuhan lab, What they're what they are 122 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: doing is greatly increasing the chances of lab leaks from 123 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: all over the world, which will keep us in a 124 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: state of chronic pandemic, which will have two effects. Number one, 125 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: Big Pharma will make a lot of money from all 126 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: the vaccines that are going to be needed to combat 127 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: these this pandemic, or that they say are needed. 128 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 129 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: And then number two, it's it serves as a pretext 130 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: to keep us on chronic lockdown and to deprive us 131 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: of our of our constitutional freedoms so that those that's 132 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: to me is the biggest dan in the new treaty. 133 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Reggie, you know those sound like hyperbolic statements, 134 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: but we lived through the World Health Organization doing what 135 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: they could in that both of those respects, when they 136 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: didn't have any of the authorities or powers that this 137 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: new treaty and for that matter, the amendments in the 138 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: previous one conferred on them. We have to take a 139 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: short break. We're going to talk about in a little 140 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: bit more detail, some of these very serious challenges to both, 141 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: as you say, our national sovereignty and our personal freedoms. 142 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Remember what they did to you in COVID nineteen. There's 143 00:09:41,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: more of where that came from. Stay tuned, Welcome back, 144 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and a very special welcome once again to Reggie little John, 145 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: the president of the Anti Globalist International and Women's Rights 146 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: Without Frontiers, also the co founder with me of the 147 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Sovereignty Coalition. Reggie, it's always important, I think, to hear 148 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: a little bit more fulsome sort of assessment of what 149 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: a digital gulog would entail and how having these digital 150 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: IDs can facilitate its imposition on all of us. 151 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: So what you're referring to is in the International Health 152 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: Regulation Amendments, they have a requirement for nations to surveil 153 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: their citizens to address misinformation and disinformation, and they also 154 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: have a section on everybody in the world needing to 155 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: have a health ID and develop it will be a 156 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: digital health ID, and those are being rolled or have 157 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: been rolled out by the World Health Organization since twenty 158 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: twenty three. And so what is the concern then about 159 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: how this leads to a digital gulag? And I think 160 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: that the way that you can understand what the issue 161 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: is is by going on to the World Economic Forum website. 162 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: You can do an image search word Economic Forum digital 163 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: ID and you'll come up with a chart and that 164 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: chart shows what all these what these digital ideas are 165 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: going to be able to do. They want to turn 166 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: the entire world digital, including and probably especially cash and 167 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: anything that you that you have to access digitally can 168 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: also and will monitor and surveil you digitally. So in 169 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: these digital ideas, you will need one in order to 170 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: access healthcare and how get healthcare insurance, open a bank account, 171 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: travel to pay your taxes, to access government benefits like Medicare, 172 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: Medicaid UH. To own a communications device like a computer 173 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: or a cell phone, to anticipate in social media, basically 174 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: to carry on online transactions so or any kind of 175 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: digital transactions. Actually, so what this does is it it's 176 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: very similar to the China social credit system. The China 177 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: social credit system operates just like this. 178 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: So so. 179 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So the China social credit system operates 180 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: just like this. They are tracking people on all various 181 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: aspects of their lives and then they come up with 182 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: a score about how reliable of a you know, a 183 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: Chinese communist sheep you are. And if you're a completely 184 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: reliable person in other words, to them, in other words, 185 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: you never criticize the government, you never break the law, 186 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: you listen to your shijen ping thought, you know, propaganda 187 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: every night. Uh you know that then you could have 188 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: a high score which will lead enable you to lead 189 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: a normal looking life. But as soon as you step 190 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: out of line, like for example, criticizing the government or 191 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: even refusing to get a vaccine, your score can go down. 192 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: And then there are punishments, uh like, because everything is digital, 193 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: you will they can easily shut you off from your 194 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: credit cards or your bank account. They can make it 195 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: so that you can't borrow money, so you can't buy 196 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: a home or you know, or open a business. They can. 197 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: They can make it in China so that you can't travel, 198 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: like even on the bus, uh you know, and and 199 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: so all of this is just it's that is the 200 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: template for the digital ID that is on the website 201 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: of the World Economic Forum. And my concern is that 202 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: these health ideas that the World Health Organization is rolling 203 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: out can serve as the platform for the China social 204 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: criticism is the same technological platform. 205 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: And it's being mandated now by these two treaties. Another days, 206 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: we're going to have you back to talk a bit 207 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: about real IDs as another option for perhaps instituting such 208 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: arrangements in our country. But in just the shortness of 209 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: time we have I did want to just ask you 210 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: what you're talking about is, obviously, you know, I think, 211 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:52,239 Speaker 1: a terrible affront to our freedoms, to our constitutional republic. 212 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: President Trump has said we're getting out of the World 213 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: Health Organization. Bless him. He tried to do it back 214 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand. That was immediately reversed when Joe Biden 215 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: took office. President has started the clock again. Takes a year. 216 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: We're told to extricate ourselves. What is the likelihood that 217 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: this treaty will be in some way, as I said, directly, 218 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: perhaps indirectly, if not binding upon us, even if we 219 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: are no longer party to the organization. 220 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of things that it issue here, 221 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: just like what happened last time when President Trump took 222 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: us out and Biden put us back in. He took 223 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: us out again in the same way, which is an 224 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: executive order, which means the next president, who could not 225 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: be like might not be a like minded person, can 226 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: just slam us right back in. Which is why we 227 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: need to have legislation to withdraw from, to formally withdraw 228 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: us from the World Health Organization. And I would ask 229 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: everybody to go to the Sovereigny Coalition and sign our 230 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: Aligned Act to make it permanent throughgislation. Trump has done 231 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: what he can, you know, which is the executive Order, 232 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: but we need congressation to really make it final. But 233 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: then beyond that, Frank pathogens and pandemics no no borders. 234 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: So if the World Health Organization is establishing this pathogen 235 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: access and benefit sharing system and these pathogens are getting 236 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: flown all over the world into labs and getting leaked, 237 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: then you know, we're going to be impacted by this, 238 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: this PABs system, whether we're in the World Health Organization 239 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: or not, it's going to hurt us. 240 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: So and quite possibly those digital ideas you know, which 241 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: you'll have to have to travel or travel, you know, 242 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: do business over proseas and look like yeah, so, Reggie, 243 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: just to be clear in addition to taking action, and 244 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we very much encourage 245 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: you to do at Sovereigntycoalition dot org. What is it 246 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: we would like President Trump to do or say about 247 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: this treaty and should that the rejection that he's already 248 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: done I think implicitly at least in his executive order 249 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: about the who be also formalized in statute as well 250 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: in some way should rejecting the treaty, perhaps by the 251 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Senate vote. 252 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not sure that the Senate is 253 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: going to take up a treaty with an organization that 254 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: we're already that we're in the process of withdrawing from. 255 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: But something that President Trump could do that would be 256 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: or even Secretary Kennedy could do that would be incredibly powerful, 257 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: would be that there are certain countries that are considering 258 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: withdrawing from the World Health Organization. And at one point 259 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: during his campaign, President Trump said that he thinks that 260 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: the World Health Organization shouldn't even exist anymore. That they 261 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: can give support to countries like for example, is real, 262 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: you know. And one of the things that the countries 263 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: are worried about is there worried that if they do this, 264 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: they're going to be out on their own. Well, that's 265 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: not the idea. The idea is that if countries will 266 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: draw from the World Health Organization, that we will have 267 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: a consortium of free nations, including the United States, that 268 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: we'll get together and will freely and on a voluntary basis, 269 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: and no doubt, on a generous basis, help countries that 270 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: are having health crises and that people are not going 271 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: to be alone. And it would be really wonderful if 272 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: President Trump would say, you know, I support countries withdrawing 273 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: from the World Health Organization. We've done it, and you're 274 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: not going to be alone. We're going to be together, 275 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: and that I think will give a lot of countries 276 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: the courage to do that. 277 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: That's incredibly important, Reggie, and I thank you for pointing 278 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: this out, because I think the President appreciates the importance 279 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: for our sovereignty of ending this regime, not exacerbating it, 280 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: and anything that could be done by him, especially to 281 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: impart that same sense of urgency to other governments, would 282 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: almost certainly be helpful here. And I think your point 283 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: about this being a voluntary arrangement, not just another world 284 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: government in waiting operation, is tremendously important as well. Thank 285 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: you for your leadership on all of these things, Reggie 286 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: litle John. It's a privilege to be able to work 287 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: with you on them, and your clarity on the stakes, 288 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: as well as your courage and well encouraging all the 289 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: rest of us to resist them is so appreciate it. 290 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Come back to Assume with updates on all of this, 291 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: if you would maybe be right back, Folks, stay tuned. 292 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: We're back, and I'm delighted to say a man that 293 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: we consult with from time to time, but it's been 294 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: too long since we last did, he's with us. His 295 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: name is Jonathan Tobin. He is the editor in chief 296 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: of a terrific news syndicate, the Jewish News Syndicate. He 297 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: splits his time between Israel and the United States. It 298 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: covers both brilliantly, as does his team, and we are 299 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: delighted always to catch up with him. 300 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 4: Jonathan, welcome back, Frank, thanks so much. Great to be 301 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: back with you. 302 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. I had two things that I wanted to cover, 303 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: and we don't have a lot of time on it, 304 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: but both of them I know were very much on 305 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: your mind. The phenomenon of judicial supremacism is topic a 306 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: for me. Israel has been struggling with an out of 307 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: control judiciary, specifically the Supreme Court there for some time. 308 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: Benjamin Netsen've got a mandate to try to reform it. 309 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: His government was embroiled, some say in a way that 310 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: actually conduced to the October seventh attacks over his efforts 311 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: to you know, and force effectively that mandate. We're now 312 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of this going on at the moment 313 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: under not altogether to similar circumstances, the left trying to 314 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: check right of center government using the courts. Talk us 315 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: through first, what's happening in Israel and this phenomenon and 316 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: should we be concerned about a quote constitutional crisis unquote 317 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: here as. 318 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 5: Well as yeah, thank there are real analogies here, although 319 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 5: there are also differences between what has happened in Israel 320 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 5: and what is happening right now in the United States. 321 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 5: In Israel sort of as we would say on one 322 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: foot to explain it, the Supreme Court in Israel, and 323 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: it's a country without a written constitution. It's a parliamentary 324 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: democracy like Britain, but without the thousands, you know, without 325 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 5: the hundreds of years of democratic traditions to constrain the institutions. 326 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 5: The Supreme Court has arrogated to itself unbelievable powers that 327 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 5: no one in the United States would grant to any court, 328 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 5: the right to check the government, the democratically elected government's 329 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: right to do just about anything, including appointments, military actions. 330 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy. But the reason they're doing it, 331 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 5: the reason why there is a some support, and it's 332 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 5: basically from Nettinahu's political opponents, is that this is the 333 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 5: last stronghold on the left in Israeli politics. You know, 334 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: they've been gradually losing ground and sort of the remnants 335 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 5: of sort of the cultural elites, liberal elites who will 336 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 5: sort of make up the establishment in legal affairs, education, business. 337 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: Certain that's exactly the point, the idea that Trump is 338 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: running rough shot over the constitution and the law, interfering 339 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: the academic freedom you know of Harvard and Columbia and 340 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 5: all these other elite schools by demanding that they stop, 341 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: you know, acquiescing to and enabling anti Semitism, and you know, 342 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: and also change you know, their admissions in disciplinary policies. 343 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: To make that real. 344 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 5: You know, he's not over he's not overstepping his powers. 345 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: The truth is the government has been interfering in the 346 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 5: life of academia since the passage of the Civil Rights 347 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: Act in nineteen sixty four, with its Title six provisions 348 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 5: saying that if you discriminate on the base of race, 349 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 5: you know, on the on the base of national origin, 350 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: which includes Jews, and you know various other forms of 351 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 5: you know, illegal discrimination, you can't get federal funds. 352 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 4: That's just been a basic point. 353 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 5: That's what the left used it to enforce affirmative action 354 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 5: and all sorts of other you know, liberal ideas. 355 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: Now since the progressives have. 356 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: Basically taken over American education and enforced it's you know, 357 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 5: woke rules, it's diversity, equity and inclusion, woke catechism, intersectionality, 358 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: settler colonialism, theory, all of which you know, as s 359 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: cybebar I mean, it's we talk as if this is 360 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: only about anti semitism. Anti Semitism is just the natural 361 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 5: outgrowth of all these woke ideas and these policies and 362 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: the taker over, the left's takeover of American education. 363 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 4: And that's why we're in this position. 364 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: So when Harvard, you know, stands on his hind legs 365 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 5: and says, no, we won't agree to this. You're interfering 366 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 5: in our freedoms, and you're you're trying to defund science. No, no, no, 367 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 5: what they're saying is, we would rather lose nine billion 368 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 5: dollars in annual funding, even though they're you know, they 369 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: have fifty three billion with a b you know, dollar endowment, 370 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: so they can fund themselves if they have to. We 371 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: would rather lose this money than stop anti seminary. We 372 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: would rather lose this funding and you know, start. 373 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 6: Having to drawn our endowment, which we just let sit 374 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 6: there and grow because it makes secure and bigger and stronger, 375 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 6: rather than give up this woke. 376 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: Leftist discriminatory policies that have basically that are destroying American education, 377 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: that are part of a much broader war on Western 378 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 5: civilization that they are a big part of. That's what 379 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 5: they're telling us. This isn't about academic freedom or science. 380 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: It's about their right to continued discrimination and anti semitism 381 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: and their right to go on waging war on the West, 382 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 5: which you know what, Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, all of these 383 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: schools they were founded to spread Western civilizations as citadels 384 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: of Western values. Now they are its enemies, and they 385 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 5: would rather die on the hill of fighting the very 386 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: principles on which they were founded than make necessary needed 387 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: reforms that would, among other things, stop anti on the 388 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 5: campus they want to fight. They are fighting for the 389 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: right to go on enabling anti semitism. That's what this 390 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: issue is about, judgment and nothing else. 391 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I think this is such an important point and so 392 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: well said, and I myself feels as though your most 393 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: important point in a way there was it's not really 394 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: about anti Semitism. We're certainly not exclusively about any Semitism. 395 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: That is about well, I would call it Judeo Christian civilization. 396 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, Jonathan. Practically every single one of 397 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: those schools were established as divinity schools, exactly rooted in. 398 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: The tradition of Harvard and Columbia and Princeton. 399 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: You know, that's that's what they were all. 400 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: About, supposed to propound them. But thank you for your time, 401 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: my friend, and for the excellent work you do it 402 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: the Jewish News Syndicate. You and your team are indispensable, 403 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: I think, to getting the truth out about so many 404 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: of these issues, both in Israel and here and elsewhere 405 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: in the Judeo Christian civilized world. God bless you. Kick 406 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: it up come back to. 407 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 5: Us these other elite schools by demanding that they stop, 408 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: you know, acquiescing to and enabling anti Semitism, and you know, 409 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 5: and also change you know, their admissions and disciplinary policies. 410 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: To make that real. 411 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: You know, he's not over he's not overstepping his powers. 412 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: The truth is the government has been interfering in the 413 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 5: life of academia since the passage of the Civil Rights 414 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 5: Act in nineteen sixty four, with its Title six provisions 415 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: saying that if you discriminate on the base of race, 416 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 5: you know, on the on the base of national origin, 417 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 5: which includes Jews, and you know various other forms of 418 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 5: you know, illegal discrimination, you can't get federal funds. 419 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 4: That's just been a basic point. That's what the left used. 420 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 5: It to enforce affirmative action and all sorts of other 421 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 5: you know, liberal ideas. Now, since the progressives have basically 422 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 5: taken over American education and enforced it's you know, woke rules. 423 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: It's diversity, equity and inclusion, woke catechism, intersectionality, settler colonialism, theory, 424 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: all of which you know as a cydebar, I mean, 425 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 5: it's we talk that as if this is only about 426 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: anti semitism. Anti Semitism is just the natural outgrowth of 427 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 5: all these woke ideas and these policies and the taker over, 428 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: the left's takeover of American education. 429 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: And that's why we're in this position. 430 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: So when Harvard, you know, stands on his hind legs 431 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: and says, no, we won't agree to this, you're interfering 432 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 5: in our freedoms, and you're trying to defund science. 433 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: No, no, no, what they're saying is. 434 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: We would rather lose nine billion dollars in annual funding, 435 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 5: even though they're you know, they have fifty three billion 436 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 5: with a b you know, dollar endowment, so they can 437 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: fund themselves as if they have to. We would rather 438 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 5: lose this money than stop anti semitism. We would rather 439 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: lose this funding and you know, start having to drawn 440 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 5: our endowment, which we just let sit there and grow 441 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: because it makes us more secure and bigger and stronger, 442 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: rather than give up this woke leftist discriminatory policies that 443 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 5: have basically that are destroying American education and that are 444 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: part of a much broader war on Western civilization that 445 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 5: they are a big part of. That's what they're telling us. 446 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 5: This isn't about academic freedom or science. It's about their 447 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: right to continued discrimination and anti semitism and their right 448 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: to go on waging war on the West, which you 449 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 5: know what, Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, all of these schools they 450 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 5: were founded to spread Western civilizations as citadels of Western values. 451 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: Now they are its enemies, and they would rather die 452 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: on the hill of fighting the very principles on which 453 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: they were founded than make necessary needed reforms that would, 454 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: among other things, stop anti semitism on their campuses. 455 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: They want to fight. 456 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: They are fighting for the right to go on enabling antisemitism. 457 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 5: That's what this issue is about, and nothing else. 458 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I think this is such an important point and so 459 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: well said, and I myself feel as though your most 460 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: important point, in a way there was It's not really 461 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: about any Semitism. We're certainly not exclusively about any Semitism. 462 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: This is about well I would call the Judeo Christian civilization. 463 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, Jonathan. Practically every single one of 464 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: those schools were established as divinity schools, xactly rooted in 465 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: the Trip. 466 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 5: Princeton, you know, supposed they were all about. 467 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: Supposed to propound them. But thank you for your time, 468 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: my friend, and for the excellent work you do at 469 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: the Jewish News Syndicate. You and your team are indispensable, 470 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: I think too, getting the truth out about so many 471 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: of these issues, both in Israel and here and elsewhere 472 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: in the Judeo Christian civilized world. God bless you keep 473 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: it up. Come back to us again if you would, 474 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: very soon. I hope the rest of you will stay tuned. 475 00:31:48,040 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Welcome back, and a very special 476 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: and heartfelt welcome to our next guest. His name is 477 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Morton Klein. He has been the leader of an incredibly 478 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: important organization in the Jewish community, the Zionist Organization of America. 479 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: I think it's the oldest and certainly one of the 480 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: most important of all of the organizations in that community. 481 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: He has been its leader for decades and has throughout 482 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: that period evinced a level of courage and clarity and well, 483 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: frankly indefatigability that is simply astonishing. Often despite the best 484 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: efforts of many, even Jewish groups and Americans who are 485 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: members of them, constantly carping about what he is saying 486 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: and doing that I think is consistently the truth and 487 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: what needs to be said. I not only consider him 488 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: a dear friend and a mentor on many many subjects, 489 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: but also an indispensable man for all of that, He's 490 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: always a welcome guest here. Welcome back, mort It's good 491 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: to have you with us. 492 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, Frank. I only wish my parents were alive 493 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: to have heard you say all that, because they actually 494 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: would have believed it. 495 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: Well, they do believe it, I know, and I know 496 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: they're hearing me too. Mort Let me start by asking you. 497 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: I woke up yesterday to a report by National Public 498 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Radio in which a woman by the name of Amy 499 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Spittalnik I believe it is, who runs an organization called 500 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: the JCPA, was denouncing you, among other things, or the 501 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: CoA at least for being kind of an outlier on 502 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of Jews in America who really oppose 503 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: what Donald Trump has been doing, specifically with respect to 504 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: I call them Sharia supremacists in this country who seek 505 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: the destruction of the Jewish state, among other things, including 506 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: this fellow Macmood Khalil. Give us the backstory here, if 507 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: you would, Mart. What's going on. 508 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: Well, Amy Statank is director of the Jewish count Committee 509 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: on Public Affairs. It's an umbrella group of the National 510 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: Jewish Community Relation Council groups around the country, the j 511 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: c rses. She came out in an interview on the NPR, 512 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, stating that when the when the interviewer 513 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: asked her that it is ze away seems to be 514 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 3: one of the few groups that are supporting Donald Trump. 515 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: What do you have to say about that, and she 516 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: says uh, she claims falsely, the overwhelming majority of Jews 517 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: oppose deporting uh, these non citizen foreigners who are promoting 518 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 3: Hamas and other terrorist groups who call for the murder 519 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 3: of every Jew on earth in their own charter, and 520 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 3: opposes actions on campuses UH threatening to cancel federal funds 521 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: and more if they do not begin to protect Jewish students. 522 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: In fact, I can tell you, first of there have 523 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: been no polls on this. I can tell you I've 524 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: been speaking at synagogues all around the country and here 525 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: in Phoenix when I discussed this issue, overwhelming applause and 526 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: standing ovations. The Jewish people around the country, in my experience, 527 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: are thrilled with Donald Trump's actions to try and fight 528 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: anti Semitism. And I spoke to a major rabbi, a 529 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: famous rabbi who's sir. I won't mention his name, he 530 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: didn't permit me to, I didn't ask him, has said 531 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: in his congregation. Even those who voted against Trump are 532 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 3: thrilled that Trump is deporting these monsters and fighting and 533 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: threatening these universities with federal fund losses. So it's just 534 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: nonsense what she's saying, and I can assure you if 535 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 3: Donald Trump was deporting members of the ku Klux Klan 536 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: or Proud Boys, or groups who are attacking Blacks or 537 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: Gays or Muslims on campus, they would be cheering this. 538 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: This is more political than anything else. I am ashamed 539 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: of my Jewish colleagues for attacking a man who's trying 540 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: to help us. By the way, all Trump is doing 541 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: with respect to the universities is following Title six of 542 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: the Civil Rights Act, which I'm proud to say ze 543 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 3: Waight single handedly changed to be reinterpreted to cover Jews, 544 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: which simply says, if you do not protect Jews from harassment, 545 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 3: to discrimination, violence, and such, you are not entitled to 546 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: federal funds. These universities are not doing that, and Trump's 547 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 3: invoking the Civil Rights Law. 548 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: No more than that, You're just giving Jews the same 549 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: protection that other minorities and groups had under that law. 550 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: Right so more. I guess part of the story here is, 551 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: and I'd like you just to address it directly if 552 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: you can. It's not so much that the overwhelming majority 553 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: of Jews is opposed to Donald Trump's efforts to perry 554 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: anti Semitism, and proponents of Hamas and the campuses on 555 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: which they've been operating with impunity. The overwhelming majority of 556 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: Jewish organizations, however, seem to be aligned with Amy in 557 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: this case. Give us just a little bit of her 558 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: background more for one thing, But also why is it 559 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: that these Jewish organizations seem to be well aligned in 560 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: such a bizarre way. 561 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: Well, the director of the National JR umbrella Group JCPA, 562 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: Amy Spatalnik, was formerly the press sectory for a radical 563 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 3: anti Israel extremist group called j Street. It is astonishing 564 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: that an umbrella group of JCRCs would hire a j 565 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: Street official to be their director, but that's their business. 566 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 3: So she comes from not just a liberal background, which 567 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: would be much more legitimate, of course, an extreme miss 568 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: radical anti Israel background of being a jaystreader. And she 569 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: has organized three of the four major religious Jewish movements 570 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 3: to sign a letter agreeing with her. The reconstructionist Jews, 571 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: the reform Jews, and even the conservative Jews. Conservative doesn't 572 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: mean conservative politically, it's a it's a Jewish group that 573 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: doesn't require fulfilling all the aspects of the Bible. They've 574 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 3: all condemned Trump for this, and again I believe this 575 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: is largely political because they have enormous hostility of Donald Trump. 576 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: I will state that I believe if Biden or Obama 577 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 3: had done the same thing. 578 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: A very key point. We're going to come back to 579 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: it in a moment. Mort Klein is with us on 580 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: the other side of the short break, will be talking 581 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: more about that and where we go from here. Straight out, 582 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: we're back, and so is more declined the President and 583 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: Extraordinary Leader of the Zionist Organization of America, better known ASA. 584 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: It is standing a thwart of what seems to be 585 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: a bizarre tendency on the part of other Jewish organizations, 586 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: including some umbrella groups and major elements of the faith 587 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: community here in the United States, to support positions that 588 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: are clearly at odds with the best interests of Jews 589 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: concerned about anti Semitism, and for that matter, I think 590 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: the rest of us concerned about the future of the 591 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: state of Israel. What you were mentioning that this ami 592 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: Spotamic character has been organizing as one might expect a 593 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: radical anti Israel leftist associated with j Street to do. 594 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: People in the Jewish community leadership, I use that term 595 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: advisedly leadership to oppose what President Trump is doing because 596 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: they oppose Donald Trump politically period. Right. But in addition 597 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: to this issue of the expulsion of a guy who 598 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: has espoused the cause of Hamas Khalil, Muhammad Khalil, we 599 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 1: have another issue on which this cohort has organized, apparently, 600 00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: namely espousing a Palestinian state. And honestly, I've been working 601 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: on this, as have you for decades, and it is 602 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: inconceivable to me that anybody who cares about Jews, especially 603 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: Jews in Israel, even if they don't like the government there, 604 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: they don't like, you know, various policies that are being pursued, 605 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: would think it is consistent with the interests of those 606 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: people and therefore their own interests for that matter, to 607 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: be thinking that what we need is a Gaza before 608 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: October seventh on steroids, which of course is what a 609 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: second Palestinian state would entail. 610 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Look, Israel's already allowed the setting up 611 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: of a mini state in Gaza. We see how that's 612 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: worked out with thirty five thousand rockets since two thousand 613 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 3: and five when all of Gaza was relinquished. 614 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: Tight. 615 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 3: It's a miracle from God that almost very few Jews 616 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 3: have been killed by these rockets, but they've been launched 617 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: in an attempt to murder thousands of Jews. And to 618 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: be that is correct, and to think to give to 619 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: give these Arab terrorists regimes more land and more power 620 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 3: to inflict more harm on Israel and the world is inconceivable. 621 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: In fact, I will tell you the American Jewish Committee 622 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 3: adl a pack on their website and Dennis Ross of 623 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: the Washingtons Vnieres policy after ten seven are supporting a 624 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: Palestini state. And Ross says that a boss should be 625 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 3: the head of it AB boss who's the head of 626 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 3: the palace and authority pays Arabs four hundred million dollars 627 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 3: a year in lifetime pensions. If they murder a Jew. 628 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: You murder a Jew, you get a lifetime pension at 629 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 3: four times the average salary of a Palestinian. This is 630 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: the most heinous policy on earth, and he is proposing and. 631 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 1: Made possible with our money. I think, well, it's not legal, 632 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: but I think they've been. 633 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 3: The law was passed the tailor FORCEAC to stop all 634 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 3: funds if this policy continues. Trump in his first term 635 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: cut off aid to the Palici Authority. We were giving 636 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 3: him five hundred million dollars of our money a year. 637 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 3: When Biden came in, he ignored terror. The Tailorforce ack 638 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: not only reinstated the five hundred million increases to eight 639 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: hundred million over our taxpayer dollars to Mothman a bus, 640 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: which of course helps them to pay for these people. 641 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 3: By the way, many of the terrorists who massacred twelve 642 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 3: hundred Jews on October seventh, tortured them, raped them, are 643 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 3: getting lifetime pensions. Can you believe it? These terrorists are 644 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 3: getting lifetime pensions. And those who were killed during this 645 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 3: these are horrific actions. Their families get the money. So 646 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: this is the type of policies this Islamic Nazis Palison 647 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 3: authority promotes. 648 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 2: Right. 649 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to say that I think at least 650 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: in a couple of cases, some of those implicated in 651 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: at least the plotting of this horrific. 652 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 3: Reason that israel I think has mistakenly released two thousand 653 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 3: terrorists to retrieve two hundred of the tour and fifty hostages, 654 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 3: half of whom were dead already. And I can tell 655 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: you I and others believe that more Jews will end 656 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 3: up dead by these terrorists who were released than the 657 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 3: number of Jews that were saving. And by way, I 658 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 3: might add on the statehood issue, we had a meeting 659 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 3: in February and Israel with the Foreign Minister Visual Guidonsar. 660 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: He asked all the leaders of the Jewish organizations to 661 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 3: please publicly come out and oppose the Palestinian state. He 662 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 3: asked us there I was there not a single group 663 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: since he asked that has come out opposing it. They 664 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 3: group in the organized Jewish world opposing publicly apolasing state 665 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 3: is Designs organization, American Zee Way, my own organization. No 666 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 3: one else has done it. It's just astonishing. 667 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for that and your leadership more generally, more 668 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: downe all of these issues. Speaking of issues that need 669 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: that leadership, talk to us a little bit about Israel. 670 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: There's now reports that President Trump's administration is divided over 671 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: whether to support Israel in using military force to address 672 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: the clearly present danger of an Iranian nuclear weapon. What 673 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: is going on here? And again a lot of the 674 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: Jewish leadership favoring that plan or opposing it. 675 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 3: Well, there hasn't been a poll that or much scushion 676 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 3: frankly publicly by Jewish organizations. But I can tell you 677 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Stephen Whitcoff are now in negotiations with 678 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: the Islamic Nazi regime of Iran. And you cannot negotiate 679 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 3: with Islamic Nazis. You couldn't negotiate with Adolf Hitler. You 680 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 3: made a deal then in England to try and stop 681 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: a world war. It doesn't work, so there should be 682 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 3: no negotiation with Iran. They've already tried a deal. They 683 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: violated every aspect of the first deal years ago under Obama. 684 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: The only way to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. 685 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, they're threatening America and the West, 686 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 3: not only Israel. They scream, first to Saturday people, next 687 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: to Sunday people. The only way to do it is 688 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 3: what is military action. Unfortunately that's the only way to 689 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 3: do it. We have to leave it at that. 690 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: More Klan come back to us with updates on all 691 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: of this. My friend, God bless you and the great 692 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: work you do with DESIGNUS Organization of America support it 693 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: at z o A dot org. Thanks for being with us. 694 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: Come back next time. Until then, go forth and multiply